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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2019, 07:11:55 AM »
Yep, you are a Liberal. Please come back if and when you understand things.

WHO is a liberal?  Did you reply to a response that was deleted, because the first reply by alienhand is not what I would define as "answers from a liberal."

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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2019, 07:49:42 AM »
WHO is a liberal?  Did you reply to a response that was deleted, because the first reply by alienhand is not what I would define as "answers from a liberal."
Alienhand is a liberal leech. He has a ton of other posts, Sick was just cutting him off at the knees.  Alien was notorious for derailing threads and making them all about himself.
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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2019, 10:22:37 AM »
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The only sites I have been banned from are so called conservative sites. Redstate was the first and I was trying hard not to offend but back then I was a bit more outspoken.

Never been banned.  Left forums on my own, because I disagreed with the Admin.  But, I have friends who were banned from liberal sites, for no reason save it be for speaking the truth.


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But back on topic, 'hate speech' is a problem as there are many people in this world who take these words seriously and too often act on them. I have no problem with Laura Ingraham giving hateful people the microphone but make sure there is a counterpoint. Challenge them, contradict them when they lie, etc etc.
I laugh when Liberals spew "Hate Speech" nonsense.   Nothing, and I mean NOTHING you can say will hurt me.  Why?  Because, being a conservative, I couldn't give John Brown's Hind Parts" what a liberal, or anyone, thinks of me.  Sticks and Stones, and if someone had "Stones" to begin with, they'd not whine and cry when someone spoke harshly to them.  Because you liberals are making such a big deal, those being bullied take their own lives.  When I was a kid, if you had bully issues, you punched 'em in the nose. 
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"Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred." Joseph Goebbels
NAZI PROPAGANDA MINISTER?!?!?!  Are you effing kidding me?  I'll not degrade myself by even answering that stupidity.
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"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance." Eric Hoffer
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The First Amendment does not say or imply that you, as a person, can say whatever you wish to me, and I have to take it.  In fact, if you insulted my wife and/or kids, I'd not call it hate speech, I'd call it a Death Wish.   But at the very least, I'd have lots of what you call Hate Speech, for you to feast on.   
That said, the First Amendment applies only to the Gooberment.  They cannot silence us, jail us, or retaliate against us, for speaking our minds.  I have Freedom OF Religion, you don't have Freedom FROM Religion.  And, Sticks and Stones may Break my Bones, but Words Never can Hurt me.
So, in a Nutshell, there is no such thing as Hate Speech.  Blunt hurtful speech is just that.  Next thing you know, you liberals will be arresting people for Thought Crimes, ala Minority Report.
Y'all need to grow a collective pair.

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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2019, 12:34:15 PM »
Conservatives also understand moral side of the Freedom Of Speech. We don't typically go up to people's faces and shout at them, nor would we do it when the situation doesn't call for it.
Social Media are multi-national billion dollar corporations with foreign investors that are going unchecked with the power to effect our election process.

"Book burnings" have evolved into "de-plat forming". Its the same principles behind both: to eliminate accessible knowledge.

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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2020, 10:24:01 AM »
midcan5 Never been banned.  Left forums on my own, because I disagreed with the Admin.  But, I have friends who were banned from liberal sites, for no reason save it be for speaking the truth.

I laugh when Liberals spew "Hate Speech" nonsense.   Nothing, and I mean NOTHING you can say will hurt me.  Why?  Because, being a conservative, I couldn't give John Brown's Hind Parts" what a liberal, or anyone, thinks of me.  Sticks and Stones, and if someone had "Stones" to begin with, they'd not whine and cry when someone spoke harshly to them.  Because you liberals are making such a big deal, those being bullied take their own lives.  When I was a kid, if you had bully issues, you punched 'em in the nose.  NAZI PROPAGANDA MINISTER?!?!?!  Are you effing kidding me?  I'll not degrade myself by even answering that stupidity.Philosophical Bafflegag.
The First Amendment does not say or imply that you, as a person, can say whatever you wish to me, and I have to take it.  In fact, if you insulted my wife and/or kids, I'd not call it hate speech, I'd call it a Death Wish.   But at the very least, I'd have lots of what you call Hate Speech, for you to feast on.   
That said, the First Amendment applies only to the Gooberment.  They cannot silence us, jail us, or retaliate against us, for speaking our minds.  I have Freedom OF Religion, you don't have Freedom FROM Religion.  And, Sticks and Stones may Break my Bones, but Words Never can Hurt me.
So, in a Nutshell, there is no such thing as Hate Speech.  Blunt hurtful speech is just that.  Next thing you know, you liberals will be arresting people for Thought Crimes, ala Minority Report.
Y'all need to grow a collective pair.


Yeah....wish we could apply the 1st amendment to all the social media sites...
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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2020, 12:43:20 PM »

Yeah....wish we could apply the 1st amendment to all the social media sites...

I think it should. Just because they found a way to monopolize and monetize a social media avenue, it is not a private company. It is the modern printing press, and we will not get permission from the King.

If we are going to treat it like a private company, then they have to serve us our (wedding) cake so to speak.
Social Media are multi-national billion dollar corporations with foreign investors that are going unchecked with the power to effect our election process.

"Book burnings" have evolved into "de-plat forming". Its the same principles behind both: to eliminate accessible knowledge.

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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2020, 01:21:13 PM »
I think it should. Just because they found a way to monopolize and monetize a social media avenue, it is not a private company. It is the modern printing press, and we will not get permission from the King.

If we are going to treat it like a private company, then they have to serve us our (wedding) cake so to speak.
Any restrictions placed on them would have to be Federally mandated. That would be in direct violation of the First.
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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2020, 01:30:47 PM »
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Here is my definition.  Hate Speech is defined as speech that is not based in logic, truth, reason or facts.  If you have your speech or what not then present your reasoning behind it.


our founders did not specify between hate speech and love speech if you will.
 As we have seen, hate speech is in the eye...or rather the ear of the beholder.   It's like hate crimes.  You see how well that's worked.   No leftist is usually charged with an actual hate crime as defined in the law.   It was designd by the left to catch conservatives but they only succeeded in hamstringing themselves.  It's that pesky Law of Unintended Consequences.
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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2020, 05:27:35 AM »

our founders did not specify between hate speech and love speech if you will.
 As we have seen, hate speech is in the eye...or rather the ear of the beholder.   It's like hate crimes.  You see how well that's worked.   No leftist is usually charged with an actual hate crime as defined in the law.   It was designd by the left to catch conservatives but they only succeeded in hamstringing themselves.  It's that pesky Law of Unintended Consequences.

In my view hate speech and hate crimes are ridiculous. Only God and the individual know if an act by a person is because of hate.
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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2020, 05:37:16 PM »
I think it should. Just because they found a way to monopolize and monetize a social media avenue, it is not a private company. It is the modern printing press, and we will not get permission from the King.

If we are going to treat it like a private company, then they have to serve us our (wedding) cake so to speak.
Not sure what you are saying here, I am in the camp that a private, or publicly owned business can do as they want. If they do not want to make a cake or any product that goes against their beliefs, then they do not have too. Its their business. I would not ask a church to allow anyone to speak who goes against their beliefs either. By the same token, if you start a conservative newspaper and it grows to be number one, can a bunch of leftists force you to let them have space on the editorial page against your will?

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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2020, 06:44:55 PM »
Not sure what you are saying here, I am in the camp that a private, or publicly owned business can do as they want. If they do not want to make a cake or any product that goes against their beliefs, then they do not have too. Its their business. I would not ask a church to allow anyone to speak who goes against their beliefs either. By the same token, if you start a conservative newspaper and it grows to be number one, can a bunch of leftists force you to let them have space on the editorial page against your will?

They already set the tone: since they went after the baker, they set the standard that a private company can not deny service. Period.
Social Media are multi-national billion dollar corporations with foreign investors that are going unchecked with the power to effect our election process.

"Book burnings" have evolved into "de-plat forming". Its the same principles behind both: to eliminate accessible knowledge.

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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2020, 06:56:04 PM »
They already set the tone: since they went after the baker, they set the standard that a private company can not deny service. Period.
SCOTUS said otherwise. Every case that made it to the court was thrown out as unconstitutional. Any business sued now when win, precedent has been set.
What's sad is it even made it to a lower court in the first place. It should have been tossed with prejudice.
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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2020, 07:12:59 PM »
In my view hate speech and hate crimes are ridiculous. Only God and the individual know if an act by a person is because of hate.

agree.  We have laws for this.  you either broke it or you didn't.
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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2020, 07:28:06 PM »
agree.  We have laws for this.  you either broke it or you didn't.

OK at what point is a hate crime and hate crime?  As some one said ONLY God knows!
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Re: Question for any Liberal who comes here:
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2020, 12:50:47 AM »
SCOTUS said otherwise. Every case that made it to the court was thrown out as unconstitutional. Any business sued now when win, precedent has been set.
What's sad is it even made it to a lower court in the first place. It should have been tossed with prejudice.

Regardless if it was overturned, they set the tone. If they had ignored the baker situation, then they would have the moral stance on private companies.
Social Media are multi-national billion dollar corporations with foreign investors that are going unchecked with the power to effect our election process.

"Book burnings" have evolved into "de-plat forming". Its the same principles behind both: to eliminate accessible knowledge.

 

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