Quote from: RV on December 26, 2020, 09:30:06 AM
I guess my first thought is, if you don't subscribe to a "literalist" point of view regarding the U.S. Constitution, then whatever "interpretation" a Marxist wants to read in is okay with you? For example if we take the second Amendment, you'd be okay with a Marxist "interpreting" it that NO ONE may possess a firearm unless they are part of a recognized militia? There are other examples of "interpretations that could be twisted, massaged or misinterpreted to take rights away from ordinary citizens while leaving the "elite" in charge and with ANY "rights" they please. Would you be okay with that sort of "interpretation"?

My point is that if one doesn't read the U.S. Constitution literally, then it could be "interpreted" virtually any way one wants.

The only interpretation of the U.S. Constitution that matters to me is my own.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 26, 2020, 06:08:00 PM
The only interpretation of the U.S. Constitution that matters to me is my own.

OK! You are now officially an Idiot!

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 26, 2020, 06:08:00 PM
The only interpretation of the U.S. Constitution that matters to me is my own.

Your interpretation may be the only thing that matters to you however, you don't live in the U.S. all by yourself. There are millions of honest, hard working, men & women who deserve to live under a literal Constitution that is not "interpreted" for personal preference, personal gain and personal politics.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 26, 2020, 06:08:00 PM
The only interpretation of the U.S. Constitution that matters to me is my own.

Tell that to the supreme court.

Quote from: Possum on December 27, 2020, 03:33:21 AM
Tell that to the supreme court.

He's claiming "Sovereign Citizen", he doesn't recognize the laws of society.

Quote from: Solar on December 27, 2020, 04:30:50 AM


He's claiming "Sovereign Citizen", he doesn't recognize the laws of society.

It is very typical of liberals. The feeling that what they "feel" is more important that the rest of the people. The need to be a victim, of anything. The need to be offended and then see justice done on whoever or whatever offended them. The need to see everything they do not agree with vanish. The refusal to learn from history or research anything on their own. The refusal to see all the sacrificing that past generation suffered in order to give them the freedom they have today, liberals seem to believe sacrificing began with them, along with any injustice.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 26, 2020, 06:08:00 PM
The only interpretation of the U.S. Constitution that matters to me is my own.

Which makes you irrelevant in this conversation.

Quote from: Possum on December 27, 2020, 04:49:46 AM
It is very typical of liberals. The feeling that what they "feel" is more important that the rest of the people. The need to be a victim, of anything. The need to be offended and then see justice done on whoever or whatever offended them. The need to see everything they do not agree with vanish. The refusal to learn from history or research anything on their own. The refusal to see all the sacrificing that past generation suffered in order to give them the freedom they have today, liberals seem to believe sacrificing began with them, along with any injustice.

This is the thinking of a preteen. Am I wrong?

Quote from: Solar on December 27, 2020, 05:37:58 AM
This is the thinking of a preteen. Am I wrong?

Used to be. I have met liberals who now will never mentally grow out of the preteen mindset, some of them are in they're 70's, of course that was in Austin and might be the drinking water, more proof not to crap where you drink from. If you ever want to see the "preteen blank stare" ask them what have liberals done that society can be proud of. I don't get it, opportunity slapping them right in the face, and they are looking for ways to claim victimhood. Life is to be enjoyed, advanced, loved, and have a strong faith in God, all things liberals hate.

Quote from: Possum on December 27, 2020, 05:54:04 AM
Used to be. I have met liberals who now will never mentally grow out of the preteen mindset, some of them are in they're 70's, of course that was in Austin and might be the drinking water, more proof not to crap where you drink from. If you ever want to see the "preteen blank stare" ask them what have liberals done that society can be proud of. I don't get it, opportunity slapping them right in the face, and they are looking for ways to claim victimhood. Life is to be enjoyed, advanced, loved, and have a strong faith in God, all things liberals hate.

Rules, morals, values, all impediments to lib behavior. They want everyone else to live by the rules as they go through life miserable because we want a peaceful society, to be left alone without an oppressive govt.
They want to oppress everyone under their version of Utopia.

Quote from: Solar on December 27, 2020, 06:02:50 AM
Rules, morals, values, all impediments to lib behavior. They want everyone else to live by the rules as they go through life miserable because we want a peaceful society, to be left alone without an oppressive govt.
They want to oppress everyone under their version of Utopia.

Nothing wrong with that.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 27, 2020, 05:33:40 PM
Nothing wrong with that.

So you're good with using govt to oppress?

Quote from: Solar on December 27, 2020, 05:41:12 PM
So you're good with using govt to oppress?

I wouldn't use that term but the way I see it,  it was liberals using government power that changed our country for the worse so it is only logical to use government power to reverse those changes.

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 27, 2020, 06:14:11 PM
I wouldn't use that term but the way I see it,  it was liberals using government power that changed our country for the worse so it is only logical to use government power to reverse those changes.

Not when both party's are involved in helping ruin our culture.

Quote from: Solar on December 27, 2020, 06:28:00 PM
Not when both party's are involved in helping ruin our culture.

Agree to disagree.