Does any other country have true free speech?

Started by American Loving Norwegian, November 14, 2019, 06:08:21 AM

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American Loving Norwegian

http://evangelicalfocus.com/europe/4846/Finnish_Christian_MP_called_for_police_interrogation_as_investigation_about_tweet_quoting_the_Bible_continues

I saw this case from my neighbour country Finland and I was completely shocked. Where is the freedom of speech? Does any other country than America truly have it? All I can say is keep fighting the people that want to introduce hate speech laws in the US, cause this is what IT leeds to. No freedom of speech.  Would anything like this ever happen in America as long AS you have the first amendment? I dont think so, if Im interpreting it correctly

Also, i think I saw a survey amongst millenials saying that like 50% or something found the 1st amendment to be outdated? Scary... I hate my own generation sometimes

I know Norway doesnt have true free speech (we also have hate speech laws), Sweden doesnt have true free speech. Neither does Britain. What about denmark, new zealand, Australia? Anyone know if they also have horrible laws like this? Isnt it sort of facist controlling what people Are allowed to say and not?

Solar

No other Nation has a First Amendment. Even ours is under attack via PC, where certain self proclaimed victim groups claim choice words must never be spoken.
This is the first chop at free speech. It's the main reason we do not have filters on this forum, by filtering speech, we fall prey to PC BS.
So always feel Free to speak your mind here, all speech is protected on this forum, even loony speech, but that doesn't mean the members won't speak back against it.
That's how Free Speech is supposed to work, so people are free to exchange ideas.
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Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2019, 06:47:26 AM
No other Nation has a First Amendment. Even ours is under attack via PC, where certain self proclaimed victim groups claim choice words must never be spoken.
This is the first chop at free speech. It's the main reason we do not have filters on this forum, by filtering speech, we fall prey to PC BS.
So always feel Free to speak your mind here, all speech is protected on this forum, even loony speech, but that doesn't mean the members won't speak back against it.
That's how Free Speech is supposed to work, so people are free to exchange ideas.

That is what I thought. Seems America is the only true free country in the world then. Your constitution is the best, your liberals Are trying to ruin your country.. . Our
Constitution is full of not saying offensive stuff about the king and stuff like that ( not that its actually enforced, but Its not really a good basis...)

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Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2019, 06:47:26 AM
No other Nation has a First Amendment. Even ours is under attack via PC, where certain self proclaimed victim groups claim choice words must never be spoken.
This is the first chop at free speech. It's the main reason we do not have filters on this forum, by filtering speech, we fall prey to PC BS.
So always feel Free to speak your mind here, all speech is protected on this forum, even loony speech, but that doesn't mean the members won't speak back against it.
That's how Free Speech is supposed to work, so people are free to exchange ideas.

This is totally it. When you exercise your freedom of speech, you give others the confidence to do the same and reduce the potential consequences of dissent. In terms of network effects, free speech confers what is called positive network externalities.
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Quote from: ammodotcom on November 21, 2019, 10:27:29 PM
This is totally it. When you exercise your freedom of speech, you give others the confidence to do the same and reduce the potential consequences of dissent. In terms of network effects, free speech confers what is called positive network externalities.
Thanks, it's the very reason we have no speech filters on this forum. We don't play that PC shit, but then, we are actual Conservatives of the old school.
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Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2019, 06:47:26 AM
No other Nation has a First Amendment. Even ours is under attack via PC, where certain self proclaimed victim groups claim choice words must never be spoken.
This is the first chop at free speech. It's the main reason we do not have filters on this forum, by filtering speech, we fall prey to PC BS.
So always feel Free to speak your mind here, all speech is protected on this forum, even loony speech, but that doesn't mean the members won't speak back against it.
That's how Free Speech is supposed to work, so people are free to exchange ideas.

Austria, Italy, and Denmark are not messing around!
The US, too.

Canada is FUBAR

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Quote from: American Loving Norwegian on November 14, 2019, 06:08:21 AM
http://evangelicalfocus.com/europe/4846/Finnish_Christian_MP_called_for_police_interrogation_as_investigation_about_tweet_quoting_the_Bible_continues

I saw this case from my neighbour country Finland and I was completely shocked. Where is the freedom of speech? Does any other country than America truly have it? All I can say is keep fighting the people that want to introduce hate speech laws in the US, cause this is what IT leeds to. No freedom of speech.  Would anything like this ever happen in America as long AS you have the first amendment? I dont think so, if Im interpreting it correctly

Also, i think I saw a survey amongst millenials saying that like 50% or something found the 1st amendment to be outdated? Scary... I hate my own generation sometimes

I know Norway doesnt have true free speech (we also have hate speech laws), Sweden doesnt have true free speech. Neither does Britain. What about denmark, new zealand, Australia? Anyone know if they also have horrible laws like this? Isnt it sort of facist controlling what people Are allowed to say and not?


America doesn't really have it anymore either.  The media has it...in the fact they're free to LIE about everything.  Nobody except the lefts have it on social media, otherwise you're banned, your accounts disabled, etc.  For that matter, even on some of the conservative sites you don't have it either...if the owner of the site feels "insulted" or has her (or his) feelings hurt, and then you get kicked off, as several new members on here can attest to...
The secret of FREEDOM lies in educating people, whereas the secret of TYRANNY lies in keeping them ignorant.   ~Maximilien Robespierre

Solar

Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 06, 2020, 04:29:42 PM

America doesn't really have it anymore either.  The media has it...in the fact they're free to LIE about everything.  Nobody except the lefts have it on social media, otherwise you're banned, your accounts disabled, etc.  For that matter, even on some of the conservative sites you don't have it either...if the owner of the site feels "insulted" or has her (or his) feelings hurt, and then you get kicked off, as several new members on here can attest to...
Huh?
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Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 06, 2020, 04:29:42 PM

America doesn't really have it anymore either.  The media has it...in the fact they're free to LIE about everything.  Nobody except the lefts have it on social media, otherwise you're banned, your accounts disabled, etc.  For that matter, even on some of the conservative sites you don't have it either...if the owner of the site feels "insulted" or has her (or his) feelings hurt, and then you get kicked off, as several new members on here can attest to...
What does free speech mean?

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Quote from: Possum on May 06, 2020, 05:53:47 PM
What does free speech mean?


It SHOULD mean (and the Founding Fathers intended it to be) that EVERYbody has a right to voice their opinions, and offer information of ANY kindd.  Nobody said you had to LIKE what they had/have to say, just that they have the right to say it.

Social Media like FaceBook, Twitter, YouTube, etc, will kick you off their site if you post something they don't want let out.  Just recently, two doctors posted a video on Youtube where they were talking about the virus, and that it's not as deadly as the dems WANT you to believe, and how you can counteract the virus.  And BOOM!  Youtube took it down.  You hear that ALL THE TIME!  Twitter has even threatened Trump with locking him out, so he can't communicate with the country.  We hear story after story of people on Facebook getting locked out because they posted something TOO conservative, or about Christianity, etc...
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Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 10:04:30 AM

It SHOULD mean (and the Founding Fathers intended it to be) that EVERYbody has a right to voice their opinions, and offer information of ANY kindd.  Nobody said you had to LIKE what they had/have to say, just that they have the right to say it.

Social Media like FaceBook, Twitter, YouTube, etc, will kick you off their site if you post something they don't want let out.  Just recently, two doctors posted a video on Youtube where they were talking about the virus, and that it's not as deadly as the dems WANT you to believe, and how you can counteract the virus.  And BOOM!  Youtube took it down.  You hear that ALL THE TIME!  Twitter has even threatened Trump with locking him out, so he can't communicate with the country.  We hear story after story of people on Facebook getting locked out because they posted something TOO conservative, or about Christianity, etc...
The first amendment guarantees that the government will not arrest you for voicing your opinion. The restrictions in the bill of rights only applies to the government.  face book, you tube.... can kick you off their property, as is their right, and can set limits on what can be discussed or posted.

Solar

Quote from: Possum on May 07, 2020, 05:34:05 PM
The first amendment guarantees that the government will not arrest you for voicing your opinion. The restrictions in the bill of rights only applies to the government.  face book, you tube.... can kick you off their property, as is their right, and can set limits on what can be discussed or posted.
Correct!
I'll expand on this. The States in ratifying the Constitution agreed to the Constitution and Bill of Rights, so this applies to State Govt as well.
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