I hear a great deal about the Bill of Rights. Most western democracies have a Bill of Rights. What we are missing is a Bill of Responsibilities, for with every right, there needs to be a corresponding responsibility. I am thinking of the First Amendment for example. To be free to say what ever you like carries the responsibility to be honest, respectful and civil.
I am sure there is provision for this somewhere, and Solar will enlighten me as he always does. In Canada, the right to free speech has the corresponding responsibility to not engage in child pornography or hate speech.

Quote from: Tory Potter on June 01, 2020, 09:00:11 AM
I hear a great deal about the Bill of Rights. Most western democracies have a Bill of Rights. What we are missing is a Bill of Responsibilities, for with every right, there needs to be a corresponding responsibility. I am thinking of the First Amendment for example. To be free to say what ever you like carries the responsibility to be honest, respectful and civil.
I am sure there is provision for this somewhere, and Solar will enlighten me as he always does. In Canada, the right to free speech has the corresponding responsibility to not engage in child pornography or hate speech.

WRONG!!! No other country has a true Bill of Rights, especially Canada, nor do you have a Right to Free Speech. Or have you not been paying attention to your own news?

Quote from: Tory Potter on June 01, 2020, 09:00:11 AM
I hear a great deal about the Bill of Rights. Most western democracies have a Bill of Rights. What we are missing is a Bill of Responsibilities, for with every right, there needs to be a corresponding responsibility. I am thinking of the First Amendment for example. To be free to say what ever you like carries the responsibility to be honest, respectful and civil.
I am sure there is provision for this somewhere, and Solar will enlighten me as he always does. In Canada, the right to free speech has the corresponding responsibility to not engage in child pornography or hate speech.

It is clear you do not understand how far reaching the First Amendment is. The entire Bill of Rights is to limit the government, not it citizens. Do individual have a responsibility to refrain? Yes, but is not required in the document. I realize this is not an easy concept for some to comprehend.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 01, 2020, 09:06:18 AM
It is clear you do not understand how far reaching the First Amendment is. The entire Bill of Rights is to limit the government, not it citizens. Do individual have a responsibility to refrain? Yes, but is not required in the document. I realize this is not an easy concept for some to comprehend.

I didn't catch that. He thinks our B of R is a restriction on the people?

Quote from: Tory Potter on June 01, 2020, 09:00:11 AM
I hear a great deal about the Bill of Rights. Most western democracies have a Bill of Rights. What we are missing is a Bill of Responsibilities, for with every right, there needs to be a corresponding responsibility. I am thinking of the First Amendment for example. To be free to say what ever you like carries the responsibility to be honest, respectful and civil.
I am sure there is provision for this somewhere, and Solar will enlighten me as he always does. In Canada, the right to free speech has the corresponding responsibility to not engage in child pornography or hate speech.

I agree with this is theory. How would you implement it?

Using your example: one could argue that there is no such thing as hate speech, and what is pornographic to one person is art to another (as a whole).

If the responsibility is to respect boundaries (not yelling in someone's face, an overall appropriate time/ place, and way), they you might have something_

What about a Bill of Consequences?

Quote from: Tory Potter on June 01, 2020, 09:00:11 AM
I hear a great deal about the Bill of Rights. Most western democracies have a Bill of Rights. What we are missing is a Bill of Responsibilities, for with every right, there needs to be a corresponding responsibility. I am thinking of the First Amendment for example. To be free to say what ever you like carries the responsibility to be honest, respectful and civil.
I am sure there is provision for this somewhere, and Solar will enlighten me as he always does. In Canada, the right to free speech has the corresponding responsibility to not engage in child pornography or hate speech.

yet the left does it all the time.   

Quote from: MAMGA on June 01, 2020, 05:42:33 PM
What about a Bill of Consequences?

What are the consequences, and who decides what they are?

I was just joking.  Seems like there's no justice anymore, people think they can get away with anything without any consequences.  Political/financial/college fraud, looting, rioting, etc.

Quote from: MAMGA on June 02, 2020, 07:38:59 AM
I was just joking.  Seems like there's no justice anymore, people think they can get away with anything without any consequences.  Political/financial/college fraud, looting, rioting, etc.

um  no.   that's DEMOCRATS can get away with anything without consequences, but YOU can not.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on June 01, 2020, 06:21:29 PM
What are the consequences, and who decides what they are?

who gets to decide the responsibilities?

The left media says whatever they want...mostly lies....everyday....multiple times...on every outlet. 

Why has no one called for their being RESPONSIBLE?    maybe because they don't really want responsibility on the left.   But they sure want the right to be 'responsible'  ....mostly for telling the truth about what the left is doing.  Can't have THAT. 

I pay your damn thieving taxes.   I watch the double standard in law.   I work to support my family..and my family members have fought and some died to protect this nation.  We women have the boy babies that grow up and die for this nation.

THAT is about the extent of my responsibilities as far as i'm concerned.      I want the freakin' gov't to get out of our/my life, our/my business.

Quote from: Calypso Jones on June 02, 2020, 07:41:04 AM
who gets to decide the responsibilities?

I just said that.

"Is" the Freedom Of Speech only about saying or doing something?
"Should" people say or do something?
"Should" people have to experience people saying or doing something?

"What" is hate speech?
"Who" decides "what" hate speech is?
"Who" decides on "who" gets to decide what hate speech is?

"What" is acceptable speech?
"Who" decides "what" is acceptable speech?
"Who" decides on "who" gets to decide what acceptable speech is?

"Should" there be consequences?
"Who" decides if there "should" be consequences?
"Who" decides on "who" decides if there "should" be consequences?

"What" are the consequences?
"Who" decides "what" are the consequences are?
"Who" decides on "who" gets to decide what the consequences are?

"Can" the consequences go to far?
"Who" decides if the consequences go to far?
"Who" decides on "who" decides if the consequences go to far?

"Does" speech equate to violence?
"Who" decides if speech equates to violence?
"Who" decides on "who" decides if speech equates to violence?

"Should" there be violence?
"Who decides if there "should be violence?
"Who decides on "who" decides if there should be violence?

"What" violence is appropriate?
"Who" decides "what" violence is appropriate?
"Who" decides on "what" violence is appropriate?

If I believe that you have committed hate speech, can I equate it to violence?