The Washington Post barely manages to avoid "hick," "crazy" and worse...after all, GUNS are evil and these people have them....but aside from the elitism, this piece does give some interesting ideas about life in Idaho and northern Utah among the "preppers" of the American Redoubt....

http://news.nationalpost.com/life/im-not-paranoid-im-really-not-life-among-preppers-waiting-for-societys-collapse-in-the-wilds-of-idaho

Actually an easy read, and not really critical, but rather forward thinking.

Quote"What they are doing when they come here is relearning things that their great-great-great-grandfathers and mothers already knew," Walsh said. "What's going on here is a pioneering spirit."

People move from the city to the country for just that reason.

In 1963 my parents moved us from the city to the country, a good size farm for the following reason.

Quote"The bottom line is that our clients are tired of living around folks that have no moral values," Savage said. "They choose to flee tyranny and leave behind all the attributes of the big city that have turned them away."

Quote"I don't have a problem with preppers, but it's the extremists people don't want around – the fringe, the radicals. That's the concern I hear from people," said Mike Peterson, a real estate agent in Bonners Ferry and retired Los Angeles firefighter and EMT.

Who doesn't want to live a peaceful retirement!?  When you get so use to the gun shots, loud thumping music & screaching tires throughout the night - I think you've already lost the battle for individual liberty.

The "nut cases" aren't moving out there, nope, they're staying right where they are, in the city, filling their minds with the latest TV programming and MSM trash.  If anything comes from this article, it'll be encouraging MORE people to move.

"Life among preppers waiting for society's collapse in the wilds of Idaho"

Or is it that they're just sick of liberal strongholds and want the fuck out?

QuoteIn north Idaho, the narrow panhandle that stretches to the Canadian border, many people on the streets of pretty towns such as Coeur d'Alene, Sandpoint and Bonners Ferry have never heard of the American Redoubt.

Umm, neither had I.

Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2016, 06:59:37 AM
"Life among preppers waiting for society's collapse in the wilds of Idaho"

Umm, neither had I.

Coeur d'Alene, Sandpoint and Bonners Ferry not a safe place IF Yellowstone erupts. 

Quote from: walkstall on September 06, 2016, 07:15:54 AM
Coeur d'Alene, Sandpoint and Bonners Ferry not a safe place IF Yellowstone erupts.

Was just talking about this yesterday. As bad and corrupt as Ca is, it's still safer geographically speaking.

Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2016, 09:22:51 AM
Was just talking about this yesterday. As bad and corrupt as Ca is, it's still safer geographically speaking.

True, I don't think many states would be safe from a Yellowstone super-volcano erupted.   I lived between five volcanos all my life.   I watched Mt St Helens live, from my back yard when I lived in Tumwater Washington.  Been through 3 large earthquake also, but they all beat the hell out of flash flood, tornado and hurricanes.

IF the West Cost drops off into the Oceans, I will have a waterfront property view again. 

Quote from: walkstall on September 06, 2016, 09:41:13 AM
True, I don't think many states would be safe from a Yellowstone super-volcano erupted.   I lived between five volcanos all my life.   I watched Mt St Helens live, from my back yard when I lived in Tumwater Washington.  Been through 3 large earthquake also, but they all beat the hell out of flash flood, tornado and hurricanes.

IF the West Cost drops off into the Oceans, I will have a waterfront property view again.

Same here, and picking off Bay Area trash like rats abandoning a flooded dump as they come up the mountain..

Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2016, 12:06:25 PM
Same here, and picking off Bay Area trash like rats abandoning a flooded dump as they come up the mountain..

As I am a SOB, you can always hope the water comes up faster then they can get up the mountain. 

Quote from: walkstall on September 06, 2016, 01:13:18 PM

As I am a SOB, you can always hope the water comes up faster then they can get up the mountain. 

I'm counting on it.  

Quote from: walkstall on September 06, 2016, 01:13:18 PM

As I am a SOB, you can always hope the water comes up faster then they can get up the mountain. 

We're surf fishing just north of "the Point" - the tip of land near the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse (OBX, North Carolina), I'm casting - with two of the fishing crew, one on either side.  Right next to us, a couple of teenage boys are slinging 'em out there, nothing is biting, so we're pretty much hanging out, checking lines, rebaiting & casting.

It takes about 5-8oz of lead weight to settle into the bottom and stay put, the wave action just makes the bait move back and forth - really peaceful, I admit catching a Blue or a Drum is great, but being by the ocean is just fine... 

The two kids are joking and laughing, and casting, then a loud >pop< sound (like a hammer hitting a 2x4).  Next is this >splat< sound like a water-balloon...   suddenly, the kids are real quiet, we turn around, and 15' out, here's a Gutter Falcon Sea Gull, feet straight up, bobbing up and down - looking like he's gonna back stroke into shore.  The waves kept bring him in, and taking him back out, just beyond out reach, and wouldn't you know it, none of the sharks went for him... so there he is, zig-zagging back and forth with the tide, down the beach, both feet straight up.

About 15 minute intervals, you'd hear someone bust out in laughter and point in our direction - we'd quickly step back and point out the guilty boys...  "It sounded like a head-shot!", the >pop< sound.

Several hours later, the tide reversing, and wouldn't you know it, Seagulls are really good at extended back-floats!   "He's comin' back fer ya!  Watch him land right in front of the guilty party!"
The boys packed up and left - meanwhile, the Sea Gull just kept bobbing up and down, around the point and to who-knows-where.