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Offline Yawn

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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2013, 06:16:16 PM »
Quote from: Solar on February 16, 2013, 12:02:59 PM
Which is exactly the point of the thread, good find!
Now had it been a mile across? Point is, no one even knew it was coming, which is why everyone should have some sort of survival plan.
But sadly, 95% of the nation has about 3 days of food and water, beyond that point, law and order will be but a distant memory.

This was far too small to have been noticed. Very large for a meteor, but too small to be classified as an asteroid.  Some think it was more than a coincidence that it hit the same day the asteroid passed by. Some think it was a fragment of the asteroid.
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2013, 06:42:56 PM »
Quote from: Yawn on February 16, 2013, 06:16:16 PM
This was far too small to have been noticed. Very large for a meteor, but too small to be classified as an asteroid.  Some think it was more than a coincidence that it hit the same day the asteroid passed by. Some think it was a fragment of the asteroid.
Actually the true classification would be meteoroid, but imagine if it had collided with the big one passing by, there wouldn't have been any atmosphere to slow it and possibly cause the larger one to fragment.
Thing is, no one is watching the little ones, regardless, we really don't know when the next big one is going to hit, and even if we did, could we really even do anything about it?

Instead, we waste money on welfare programs, instead of setting up some kind of potential shield.
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2013, 06:49:32 PM »
Quote from: Solar on February 16, 2013, 06:42:56 PM
Actually the true classification would be meteoroid, but imagine if it had collided with the big one passing by, there wouldn't have been any atmosphere to slow it and possibly cause the larger one to fragment.
Thing is, no one is watching the little ones, regardless, we really don't know when the next big one is going to hit, and even if we did, could we really even do anything about it?

Instead, we waste money on welfare programs, instead of setting up some kind of potential shield.

Despite the fact that my family might be early casualties, it almost seems like we need to be hit by a fairly large one. It would suck, but it also might knock some common sense into this world.
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2013, 07:00:54 PM »
Quote from: kramarat on February 16, 2013, 06:49:32 PM
Despite the fact that my family might be early casualties, it almost seems like we need to be hit by a fairly large one. It would suck, but it also might knock some common sense into this world.
Sadly it's true,  this global governance BS (UN) needs to go, and what better way to do it, than to knock us back a couple of hundred years technologically and population wise.
I always felt I was born a couple of centuries to late, so it wouldn't bother me all that much. :unsure:
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2013, 10:26:15 PM »
I usually get either ignored or yelled t for asking, but anybody know the potential of cat or dog?
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2013, 10:59:05 PM »
Quote from: pisskop on February 16, 2013, 10:26:15 PM
I usually get either ignored or yelled t for asking, but anybody know the potential of cat or dog?

Each have potential like people.  Just that some have more potential just like people.  Like people it depends on how much you're willing to work with them or them with you.  lol   Now a dog you can take for a walk.  But a cat takes you for a walk 99 % of the time. 
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2013, 05:14:32 AM »
Quote from: pisskop on February 16, 2013, 10:26:15 PM
I usually get either ignored or yelled t for asking, but anybody know the potential of cat or dog?
All I know is if it's liberal, it hasn't got a chance of survival. Liberalism slaps in the face of human nature.
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2013, 06:25:54 AM »
Quote from: Solar on February 16, 2013, 04:08:45 PM
Absolutely! Though the first meal won't go down easy, but if it fills the void, the second will be a welcome sight.
I hope I never ever have to resort to bugs and squirrels :scared:.

HunterGatherer and I have a friend that makes squirrel stew, and I have had heard that rabbit is a great option.  We have even considered raising them for meat.

As for Krams comment about lobster, according to Alton Brown, they are closer in relation to cockroaches than fish, so there you go, bugs must taste good steamed with melted butter.  :biggrin:
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2013, 06:35:09 AM »
If you want to try eating bugs or collect them for identification, hang up a bedsheet at night and illuminate it with a lamp. This is a no muss no fuss quick method that lets you pick the bugs you want to try. It also lets you know which bugs are in the area, and if you know what eats those bugs, then you know what birds and game might be in the area. If you know the bugs needs, it can tell you what plants are in the area, which also can reveal what game might be around.
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2013, 06:42:46 AM »
Quote from: JustKari on February 17, 2013, 06:25:54 AM
HunterGatherer and I have a friend that makes squirrel stew, and I have had heard that rabbit is a great option.  We have even considered raising them for meat.

As for Krams comment about lobster, according to Alton Brown, they are closer in relation to cockroaches than fish, so there you go, bugs must taste good steamed with melted butter.  :biggrin:

I saw a documentary on TV that featured South American indians, teasing tarantulas out of their nests and eating them.

They would take them and wave them over an open fire, burning off the hairs. From there, they wrapped them in banana leaves and slow roasted them over the fire. The guy that was doing the documentary, of course, had to eat one, and said that the meat was almost identical to crab. That's something I could probably get used to. :wink:
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2013, 09:08:13 AM »
Just FYI

Quote from:  link=topic=7748.msg90853#msg90853 date=1361061688
Quote from:  link=topic=7748.msg90851#msg90851 date=1361049529
The scene of the crater at 3:00 of the video is amazing.

Sorry IDP that part of the video is false. It is actually from a hole that was ignited be cause of a gas leak. It has been around for some time. Whoever made the video just threw that in for effect. I still don't know if they found the real crater form the Meteor. His is the link to the actual crater shown in the video.

http://englishrussia.com/2008/03/25/darvaz-the-door-to-hell/

The uploders didn't have the integrity to keep it real.  They faked the crater.
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2013, 12:24:08 PM »
I doubt there is a single crater. It exploded about 10 miles up. It was the force of that explosion, caused by the speed it hit the atmosphere that caused windows to shatter everywhere. It likely broke up into 1,000s of pieces.
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2013, 12:18:24 PM »
Quote from: Solar on February 16, 2013, 07:00:54 PM
Sadly it's true,  this global governance BS (UN) needs to go, and what better way to do it, than to knock us back a couple of hundred years technologically and population wise.
I always felt I was born a couple of centuries to late, so it wouldn't bother me all that much. :unsure:

I always feel I should have been born in 16th century Europe, that period fascinates me.

I'm saving up to buy a good piece of real estate that is more like a mansion. The real estate where I live is very very economical due to it being rural and only nearby towns have population of 4500 max so I can afford huge lands. And my dream is to build a good family bunker with tons of supplies and make the house self suffiecient. There are plenty of game and fish, so I don't see food as a problem.

The problem how I see it is that the government will send out officers to expropriate private food property in the name of the greater good of the state. The state will then ration in out in order to keep power just like the African Warlords uses food as weapon of control today. And this has happen before, the Soviet Union commisars and military expropriated food supplies from the population as a weapon of starvation and maintaining control. For this reason too I want a hidden bunker able to keep the family safe.

Edit: And on the subject of taking it too the extreme, one of my collegues, she and her family have their own island that they have bought. Takes about 2 hours with boat to get too, and they have made it completely self suffecient for years with food supplies, fresh water, fishing supplies, gasoline and gas. Though of course they will not have electricity forever since it runs on a gasoline generator, but then again you don't need electricity too survive in that scenario.
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2013, 04:10:30 PM »
Quote from: Mountainshield on February 19, 2013, 12:18:24 PM
I always feel I should have been born in 16th century Europe, that period fascinates me.

I'm saving up to buy a good piece of real estate that is more like a mansion. The real estate where I live is very very economical due to it being rural and only nearby towns have population of 4500 max so I can afford huge lands. And my dream is to build a good family bunker with tons of supplies and make the house self suffiecient. There are plenty of game and fish, so I don't see food as a problem.

The problem how I see it is that the government will send out officers to expropriate private food property in the name of the greater good of the state. The state will then ration in out in order to keep power just like the African Warlords uses food as weapon of control today. And this has happen before, the Soviet Union commisars and military expropriated food supplies from the population as a weapon of starvation and maintaining control. For this reason too I want a hidden bunker able to keep the family safe.

Edit: And on the subject of taking it too the extreme, one of my collegues, she and her family have their own island that they have bought. Takes about 2 hours with boat to get too, and they have made it completely self suffecient for years with food supplies, fresh water, fishing supplies, gasoline and gas. Though of course they will not have electricity forever since it runs on a gasoline generator, but then again you don't need electricity too survive in that scenario.
I'm in the process of building a hidden bunker just for food, I plan on burying it in the mountain side so to keep fire and anyone else from trying to get in.
I figure 8' diameter using a galvanized pipe I have that I can bury in the side, then find a steel door and camouflage it.
Mostly just for safe keeping in the event of a fire, I also plan on building one brick room attached to the house for computers and other valuables that can't be replaced.
Power isn't an issue since I'm completely solar, but fuel is an issue if there's ever a fire, which I do expect at sometime with all the idiots moving up in the mountains.

An island would be ideal though, it's always been on the distant back burner. :smile:
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Re: Taking It To The Extreme
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2013, 03:42:29 PM »
I have no idea when or if a ateroid will hit us so I chose not to even think about it.   As everyone can see thre is absolutly nothing that I can do to protect myself.
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