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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2012, 12:07:27 PM »
My husband pointed something out that I had not considered.  I had wanted to consider a windmill, but hubs pointed out that in a collapse, nothing points out that you still have electricity, and possibly food, like a giant windmill.

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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2012, 12:18:25 PM »
My husband pointed something out that I had not considered.  I had wanted to consider a windmill, but hubs pointed out that in a collapse, nothing points out that you still have electricity, and possibly food, like a giant windmill.
If you live in an area that has good wind more than 50% of the year, it's always a good investment.
If you decide to go that route, feel free to ask questions, it's part of my expertise in the alternative energy field.
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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2012, 12:26:11 PM »
If you live in an area that has good wind more than 50% of the year, it's always a good investment.
If you decide to go that route, feel free to ask questions, it's part of my expertise in the alternative energy field.

You mean I am not windy enough?  :scared: 

In all seriousness, here in MN wind is a much better option than solar would be.  The daunting aspect is, of course, the up front cost.

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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2012, 12:37:51 PM »
You mean I am not windy enough?  :scared: 

In all seriousness, here in MN wind is a much better option than solar would be.  The daunting aspect is, of course, the up front cost.
True, but far less costly than solar and far more efficient, due to the fact wind can blow 24 hrs a day.

Right now, you can pick up wind turbines pretty cheap due to a depressed mkt.
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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2012, 09:37:35 PM »
I'm ready. I won't be bugging out though, unless my area is hit with a nuke. Other than that, staying put and defending my home.

Have over 5000 rounds of ammo.  :thumbsup:

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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2012, 02:42:12 PM »
Sandy has really opened my eyes on the necessity of being prepared. Sandy was a relatively small natural disaster, but the effects were and still are devastating here in the NY area. Electricity went out, people didn't have food, stores ran out of food so you couldn't just go out and stock up on short notice, gas stations had lines that were dozens upon dozens of cars long. People got desperate very fast and began to turn on each other; I read a news story about a man who pulled a gun out on people at the gas station to secure a position at the front end of the line. Now stuff like this makes me wonder what is in store when things really get bad on a larger scale.

So when it comes to the prospect of the economy completely collapsing, it's clear that there are going to be necessary preparations that I need to make. I've been looking up prices for an adequate generator to power necessary equipment in the event of long term power outages. I'll need to stock up on batteries and things that run on batteries, I was fumbling throughout my house looking for a flashlight in the dark in the aftermath of Sandy. Theres also useful hand crank and solar powered radios and such that can come in handy.

This all takes for granted the fact that I'll need to stock up on food to last X amount of time at least

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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2012, 04:32:07 PM »
valjean .......  This is just a small wake up call.  Just think what it would be if it was the full East in land for 600 miles.
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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2013, 08:44:30 AM »
I'm ready. I won't be bugging out though, unless my area is hit with a nuke. Other than that, staying put and defending my home.

Have over 5000 rounds of ammo.  :thumbsup:

lol, we'd expect nothing less from Travis Bickle.

Though staying put requires some planning for water, heat, hardening the windows / doors, hunting or fishing or foraging after (really "during" is best) the pantry's waning.

Much of this is very low tech and common sense.  Anybody can set up their rain gutters to flow into some kind of containers.  A pool or other approach to a cistern-like device.  A quality camping water filter in case you need to go to bodies of water or puddles.  Small wood stove or propane / kerosene heater.

I had a fun mental exercise matching up the refrigerators, washer-dryer, dishwasher, stove, heavy furniture, sofas / shelving, cabinetry, etc......and the various exterior openings of the house.

Gathering wood for burning or hardening can be helped greatly by disassembling fences and decks and securing the wood inside.  Taking decks down probably makes breaking in to your house a lot more difficult, too.

Food gathering outdoors is probably the toughest.  You really need to have some knowledge and experience, and the right equipment for fishing / hunting.  Foraging edible plants and trapping is a little simpler, but it does take some research and knowledge.

Don't forget to know where you'll be relieving yourself, and how you'll take care of your other sanitary / health / dental conditions.  These are seldom thought of, but frequently bigger than the rest.

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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2013, 05:47:30 PM »
I'm preparing myself to, if necessary, move to another country if our precious America continues desinegrating. Probably Austrailia, New Zealand, Japan or Germany. Also England may be a possibility.

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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2013, 01:54:42 AM »
Hi, decided to stop being a ghost on this forum and start participate in this discussion as I'm very interested in it.

It's very hard to emmigrate to Japan, I have a uncle there and only reason he was accepted is because he is a millionare and married a japanese woman. Germany would be Schengen which is not that hard for an american, but still its a process and if the US economy collapses i'm sure EU will put up emmigration block on the US, we don't want any more westerners, only muslims allowed  :wink: So I think Latin America would be better option for americans seeking to escape.

In the end though I don't think it will matter with CELAC Communist Union in Latin america and the EU transformation into Communist system. We will all be oppressed.

I have two options if the system become totalitarian and the EU economy collapses, one is a house on an island connected by undersea tunnel. Living near the ocean will allow for deep sea fishing making yourself self suffiecient in that respect, this could also be traded with inlands survivalists for other food types. Then again the terrain on the island is very open and rocky, impossible to flee if the situation calls for it.

The other option is a house in the mountain, my family are not exactly survivalists so I'm saving money to buy the property from them and turn it into a self sufficient resident area. Sort of like what "Solar" and others on this forum have done except not as pro. The mountain house I have is near to a small stream and a large river so I think hydro is the way to go for me. Also the mountains have allot of deer, moose and grouse.

The problem for me though is aquiring guns and ammo. I have a hunting licence and thinking of buying hunting rifles and shotguns. Handguns are pretty much illegal, but you can aquire them for sport reasons, but the barrel must be kept at the shooting range. And in any case the EU is sure to pass total gun abolition laws when they turn communist, so being registered as a potential terrorist for owning huntin rifle will would be more a threat than the short term advantage of owning a legal firearm.

What I'm considering though is buying a 3D printer and manufacture handguns without getting registered in a database. Anyone got any advice or know anything about manufacturing your own guns? The other option for me is getting it illegal which I don't want to do.
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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2013, 07:39:39 AM »
Hi, decided to stop being a ghost on this forum and start participate in this discussion as I'm very interested in it.

It's very hard to emmigrate to Japan, I have a uncle there and only reason he was accepted is because he is a millionare and married a japanese woman. Germany would be Schengen which is not that hard for an american, but still its a process and if the US economy collapses i'm sure EU will put up emmigration block on the US, we don't want any more westerners, only muslims allowed  :wink: So I think Latin America would be better option for americans seeking to escape.

In the end though I don't think it will matter with CELAC Communist Union in Latin america and the EU transformation into Communist system. We will all be oppressed.

I have two options if the system become totalitarian and the EU economy collapses, one is a house on an island connected by undersea tunnel. Living near the ocean will allow for deep sea fishing making yourself self suffiecient in that respect, this could also be traded with inlands survivalists for other food types. Then again the terrain on the island is very open and rocky, impossible to flee if the situation calls for it.

The other option is a house in the mountain, my family are not exactly survivalists so I'm saving money to buy the property from them and turn it into a self sufficient resident area. Sort of like what "Solar" and others on this forum have done except not as pro. The mountain house I have is near to a small stream and a large river so I think hydro is the way to go for me. Also the mountains have allot of deer, moose and grouse.

The problem for me though is aquiring guns and ammo. I have a hunting licence and thinking of buying hunting rifles and shotguns. Handguns are pretty much illegal, but you can aquire them for sport reasons, but the barrel must be kept at the shooting range. And in any case the EU is sure to pass total gun abolition laws when they turn communist, so being registered as a potential terrorist for owning huntin rifle will would be more a threat than the short term advantage of owning a legal firearm.

What I'm considering though is buying a 3D printer and manufacture handguns without getting registered in a database. Anyone got any advice or know anything about manufacturing your own guns? The other option for me is getting it illegal which I don't want to do.
Welcome MS, I love the idea of an island connected to a deep sea cave, though the rough terrain might be an issue at my age. :blush:
I don't know anything about 3D printers, if it were me, I'd ask around machine shops about weapons makers, you may find a nice hand made AR style weapon.
Then you still have the issue with ammo, attaining primers and shells might be a challenge. I'm betting there's an underground mkt dealing in just what you're looking for, every country in the world has a black mkt that can get anything you desire.
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Re: So...if the economy completely collapses, are you prepared?
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2013, 04:38:34 AM »
Thanks, yeah I think I will just buy 2-3 rifles and ammo legally, then if it the state ever decides to outlaw these guns I'm sure the blackmarket will flourish, and then I can take advantage of it. If the US ever becomes a constitutional republic again I will emmigrate to the US though.
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