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Reloading Brass (woes...)
« on: November 08, 2020, 07:32:04 AM »
So... I got about 200rnds of 1943 SL 30-06 ammo - with corrosive primers.
It has that acrid smell, like something is not quite right.

Do I...
a. shoot it (and clean gun immediately following)
b. pull the bullets, clean, reprime & load with fresh powder

Well, I shot a few rounds, and it's basically JUNK!

OK, then, I assume stuff 'made back then has gotta be good - it was during WW2 - they wouldn't sacrifice quality control for our fighting men'   Boy, was I wrong.

Pulling the bullets was the first clue, some were really tight (a dozen hits), others took 2-3 hits and popped out.   Yep, the powder stinks!

Weigh the bullets ... Yeah... 163~168 grains... at this point I'm not expecting quality.

Punch the primers, and run the cases through the corn cob ... 5hrs, and still not clean.
Run the cases through the tumbler with "Barkeeper's Friend", Stainless & water for 1.5hrs - has that brilliant *new* look!  Yeah, progress!

A closer examination of the primer pocket ... hmm, looks like sorta crimped, no matter, we just run them through the case prep tool, uniform primer pocket dies.
Now I see serious problems, some are loose, some are so tight, I gotta hold the case with a plyers to ream it out to spec!

From the other end, it's painfully obvious the neck is ... all over the place.  a little disturbing for never-fired brass that my Dad would have used to take back those Pacific Islands from the Japanese!  Since it's never been fire-formed to a 30-06 chamber, also noted it went really, really, easy through the full length sizing die... like it was an undersized case.  Punched all the primers, without case lubing a single case.

That's 80 of them.  Really disappointed in the Quality Control of WW2 era manufacturing.  Would have expected that kind of variation in range brass, but never-fired ammunition...?   This old stuff is JUNK!
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Re: Reloading Brass (woes...)
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2020, 07:41:50 AM »
Probably what you bought were rejects that never made it to supply. There is still a lot of that shit out there, and there's no way of knowing unless you buy it sealed in it's original brick, otherwise people break up the bricks, remove the "Rejected" stamp and sell it as surplus.

My dad discovered this back in the early 60s when he bought some shit rounds for the 30-30. All pretty much crap.
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Re: Reloading Brass (woes...)
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 03:14:16 PM »
Maybe that's it.   The quality varied so much, I couldn't believe this crap would make it to the US Military.

On a more positive note, if you've got some time on your hands, reloading is actually a bit of fun.
Even with a single stage press, which really takes a lot of time (compared to a progressive / turrent), a heck of a lot more useful than sitting back and letting the TV progressives program you!
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Re: Reloading Brass (woes...)
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2020, 04:39:58 PM »
Maybe that's it.   The quality varied so much, I couldn't believe this crap would make it to the US Military.

On a more positive note, if you've got some time on your hands, reloading is actually a bit of fun.
Even with a single stage press, which really takes a lot of time (compared to a progressive / turrent), a heck of a lot more useful than sitting back and letting the TV progressives program you!
I had a Lee loader 50 years ago, never really got into it all that much, especially for as little of shooting I do any more, it's easier to buy as I need it.
That Lee loader did the job, but it took an entire day to load a box. :lol:
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Re: Reloading Brass (woes...)
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2020, 05:35:23 AM »
I had a Lee loader 50 years ago, never really got into it all that much, especially for as little of shooting I do any more, it's easier to buy as I need it.
That Lee loader did the job, but it took an entire day to load a box. :lol:
+20 hours to load 350 rounds of 22-250 with a single stage loader.
I'm not going to invest $2k into a progressive reloader for the little amount I shoot... never get my money back on savings. 

I picked up a military primer pocket reamer, which made priming easy.   These, IMO, are "throw-away" cases.  While they might not have been "cheap" the quality is lacking.
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