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Started by Possumpoint, July 10, 2014, 11:57:55 AM

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Have been considering the use of 5 gallon Home Depot Buckets with lids for storage of dry goods such as flour, corn meal, sugar, etc. The lids come with a rubber gasket and appear to be workable. If doable, what method would be used to reduce moisture intrusion? Would Putting a handy wrap layer on top with a bowl of rice on top of that be suitable? If not, then what?

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Quote from: Possumpoint on July 10, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
Have been considering the use of 5 gallon Home Depot Buckets with lids for storage of dry goods such as flour, corn meal, sugar, etc. The lids come with a rubber gasket and appear to be workable. If doable, what method would be used to reduce moisture intrusion? Would Putting a handy wrap layer on top with a bowl of rice on top of that be suitable? If not, then what?

I would use a vacuum sealed bag system like below.  That way your only opening what you need when you need it.  You can put a lot of sealed bags in to a 5 gallon Home Depot Buckets. Also you can mix and match as you like.  I think Solars Toy covered this in a post below. 

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Quote from: Possumpoint on July 10, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
Have been considering the use of 5 gallon Home Depot Buckets with lids for storage of dry goods such as flour, corn meal, sugar, etc. The lids come with a rubber gasket and appear to be workable. If doable, what method would be used to reduce moisture intrusion? Would Putting a handy wrap layer on top with a bowl of rice on top of that be suitable? If not, then what?

If you go to Toys site, you can buy the same buckets with food, at no extra cost.
But if you do plan on storing food, get some oxygenator and silica gel packs to assure it keeps, otherwise you may be in for a huge disappointment in less that a year.

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Sorry about being slow in saying thanks. Things got real busy after my wife's was diagnosed and treated for PMR. Her improvement was nothing less then overnight. Now three months of backed up projects got put on the front burner.

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Quote from: Possumpoint on July 23, 2014, 05:42:11 AM
Sorry about being slow in saying thanks. Things got real busy after my wife's was diagnosed and treated for PMR. Her improvement was nothing less then overnight. Now three months of backed up projects got put on the front burner.
PMR?
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Quote from: CG6468 on July 23, 2014, 07:29:39 AM
Polymyalgia Rheumatica


https://www.rheumatology.org/Practice/Clinical/Patients/Diseases_And_Conditions/Polymyalgia_Rheumatica/
Yeah, I looked it up and thought that was it, because I doubt it was Profound Mental Rehabilitation, Partial Mental Retention, Primary Menstruation Results.
Regardless, that's some scary shit.
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PMR = Polymyalgia Rheumatica. Autoimmune disease affecting primarily white women of northern European heritage who are over 50 years old. The disease strikes suddenly in that one day you feel fine and the next you hip and shoulder joints are inflamed and you are completely overcome by exhaustion. Five steps out of a chair and you are wiped out. My wife's primary doctor didn't know what was wrong and over the course of two months with nothing working she was sent to a specialists. Two weeks to get in to see him with a blood test administered prior to the appointment she was given the diagnosis that day. Got a prescription for prednisone on the way home and felt 50% better the next morning. Improvement is slowly continuing. The normal treatment plan is prednisone given in decreasing amounts over an eight to eighteen month span. Some patients stay on the treatment for much longer.


Prednisone is a steroid and has some real drawbacks. Weight gain is one.

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Quote from: Possumpoint on July 23, 2014, 05:06:37 PM
PMR = Polymyalgia Rheumatica. Autoimmune disease affecting primarily white women of northern European heritage who are over 50 years old. The disease strikes suddenly in that one day you feel fine and the next you hip and shoulder joints are inflamed and you are completely overcome by exhaustion. Five steps out of a chair and you are wiped out. My wife's primary doctor didn't know what was wrong and over the course of two months with nothing working she was sent to a specialists. Two weeks to get in to see him with a blood test administered prior to the appointment she was given the diagnosis that day. Got a prescription for prednisone on the way home and felt 50% better the next morning. Improvement is slowly continuing. The normal treatment plan is prednisone given in decreasing amounts over an eight to eighteen month span. Some patients stay on the treatment for much longer.


Prednisone is a steroid and has some real drawbacks. Weight gain is one.
Good to hear she is doing better. You're right, pred has some really nasty side effects, and water retention is a huge one.
That, and you always think you're starving, but it works, and that's all that matters.
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Getting back to the OP.....

There's nothing wrong with storing foodstuffs in properly cleaned 5-gallon buckets like the ones Home Depot sells or like the ones drywall mud is packed in. Yes, they have rubber gaskets for sealing, and can preserve foods for a long time. Except....

What sort of foodstuff do you expect to store that will be used five gallons at a time? Unless you're cooking for a tribe, you're not likely to require that sort of bulk. Using foods stored in five-gallon containers is going to involve extended periods of time when less than five gallons are in the bucket. Each time the bucket is partially emptied and resealed, air and bacteria enter.

I tried storing processed corn feed for chickens in a similar bucket. Fine and dandy as long as the bucket was full or nearly so. Rot and decay began to set in when I was about 2 gallons down. I threw away two gallons of feed for every five I bought.

Storing food in small, sealed packages inside five-gallon buckets is a winner, though.
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Quote from: TboneAgain on July 23, 2014, 05:26:33 PM
Getting back to the OP.....

There's nothing wrong with storing foodstuffs in properly cleaned 5-gallon buckets like the ones Home Depot sells or like the ones drywall mud is packed in. Yes, they have rubber gaskets for sealing, and can preserve foods for a long time. Except....

What sort of foodstuff do you expect to store that will be used five gallons at a time? Unless you're cooking for a tribe, you're not likely to require that sort of bulk. Using foods stored in five-gallon containers is going to involve extended periods of time when less than five gallons are in the bucket. Each time the bucket is partially emptied and resealed, air and bacteria enter.

I tried storing processed corn feed for chickens in a similar bucket. Fine and dandy as long as the bucket was full or nearly so. Rot and decay began to set in when I was about 2 gallons down. I threw away two gallons of feed for every five I bought.

Storing food in small, sealed packages inside five-gallon buckets is a winner, though.
Good point. If you're storing anything, it has to be bone dry or it'll mold, and absolutely no fat products unless you bought something like jerky that came sealed already.
This is why we bought a thousand count box of silica gel and oxygen absorbing packs, toss in a new one every time you open the package.
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