Pistols for CCW & fun!

Started by Hoofer, October 23, 2016, 11:33:41 AM

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Every so often, an interesting article in the major new publications pops up, that's interesting, useful and fun.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/bang-your-buck-best-handguns-under-500/

Oh, yeah!  Fun guns you can conceal-carry!!! 

Hmmmm.... never heard of this company before....
http://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2015/01/06/thunder-pro-uc-45_s878x666.jpg?be03cd5ed4500841ae15377b8fbeec5cbd3557d0

Wifey absolutely LOVES this little Kimber 380.  it is small, light, easy slide (yes, it does not have a heavy spring that's hard to cock), and light recoil.
I'll admit, this is the easiest pistol I've ever shot, balanced, light and it feels like part-of-your-hand, instead of like grabbing a slippery Mag-lite.  (nothing against Mag-light, you KNOW when you've got a 2-3-4-6 "D" cell in your hand!
http://www.kimberamerica.com/micro-carry-a

A couple of guys I know have these Ruger LCP as "pocket guns" and "backup ankle guns".   Compared to the Kimber, the slide has got to be 3-4 times harder, and it seems like it moves in your hand, making a second 'quick' shot 'slow' as you get it re-oriented.  (just my opinion).
http://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2015/01/06/ruger-lcp_s878x608.jpg?db7362f0927a11164d998a00786687720e84bdf3

Here's another one, never heard of it.   But, check this out, an 18 round magazine?!?!?  in a 9mm?!?!?   
I wanna SHOOT, not reload every minute.   Just imagine shooting out the target's "X" ring... then the 9 ring, with one full mag.... whoa!
http://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2015/01/06/caracal-f-cp660_s878x658.jpg?6753eaf52762d8be14469aa03427df12f9ecb8e6

Think Quick!   Which weighs more, the gun or 18 rounds of 9mm?   Together, "pocket sag" or "belt sag" is dead give-away, "that guy is packing heat..."  Does the balance or recoil noticeably change as you empty the mag?

I like the grip of this little Mustang 380.  It "looks" like it would easily slide out of your pocket, but has good checkering on the front and back of the grip, leaving the question(s), is it easy to cock (the slide), and does it stay "put" in your hand with a comfortable grip?   
http://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2015/05/04/colt2_s878x622.jpg?a0debdb44e5d7a4fc0f2a3fbd02d986eda91b33e

Just $250....   Hmmmm.... another one I've never heard of before.   Not sure about the squared-off corners, that might "print" (the outline of the gun shows up easily on clothing).
http://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2015/05/04/diamnond_s878x878.jpg?4f4556d561e0e4ffdeff89b39b4e06159eee5b9d

All offer something, so many choices!   I grew up a rifle/shot gun shooter... never liked these little, inaccurate things jumping around in my hand... finally the technology has given us some "comfortable-to-shoot" handguns from 380-45 calibers.   And if you LIKE to shot and HIT what you're trying to AIM at (gun control), up until recently, only the expensive brands like H&K or Kimber really promised marksmanship performance.  Thanks to WOMEN asserting their buying power... it's helped all of us!
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So many people are getting into manufacturing guns, most do parts, but for the right price will build you a custom gun.
Met a guy that owns a machine shop, showed me his M16 he made, even made some slight improvements, and now we have 3-D printers eliminating the govt from the equation. :thumbup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DconsfGsXyA
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Quote from: Solar on October 23, 2016, 12:58:34 PM
So many people are getting into manufacturing guns, most do parts, but for the right price will build you a custom gun.
Met a guy that owns a machine shop, showed me his M16 he made, even made some slight improvements, and now we have 3-D printers eliminating the govt from the equation. :thumbup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DconsfGsXyA

Guns are useless without AMMO.

The Liberals are very busy Taxing it, banning Lead bullets, banning so-called Armor-Piercing, buying it up in Government buys, banning Imports, regulating Nitrocellulose, and I'll bet I've missed another dozen of their schemes.

Solar

Quote from: Rotwang on October 24, 2016, 09:35:30 AM
Guns are useless without AMMO.

The Liberals are very busy Taxing it, banning Lead bullets, banning so-called Armor-Piercing, buying it up in Government buys, banning Imports, regulating Nitrocellulose, and I'll bet I've missed another dozen of their schemes.
They outlawed bombs as well, but we still have home made bombs.
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Quote from: Solar on October 24, 2016, 11:23:20 AM
They outlawed bombs as well, but we still have home made bombs.

Bombs can be make from Fireworks and Pressure Cookers. Even from Wine Bottles, Gasoline, and a Rag.

But actual Smokeless Powder is well beyond the capabilities of individuals.

Let alone the Primers.

Crossbows, on the other hand.....

Now I'm not suggesting anything but to keep your eyes on BOTH Guns & Ammo.

The Liberals are twisted, but at least some of them are very intelligent as well. And very evil.


Solar

Quote from: Rotwang on October 24, 2016, 05:33:06 PM
Bombs can be make from Fireworks and Pressure Cookers. Even from Wine Bottles, Gasoline, and a Rag.

But actual Smokeless Powder is well beyond the capabilities of individuals.

Let alone the Primers.

Crossbows, on the other hand.....

Now I'm not suggesting anything but to keep your eyes on BOTH Guns & Ammo.

The Liberals are twisted, but at least some of them are very intelligent as well. And very evil.
They're trying there's no doubt about it, but they can only succeed if we let them.
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Quote from: Solar on October 24, 2016, 06:40:01 PM
They're trying there's no doubt about it, but they can only succeed if we let them.

You are going to hate me.

You are not going to agree with me.

But I am voting Trump.

Not because I have a bromance with him.

But because he will crush our enemies, yet ultimately can be beaten himself.

He will not, I believe, stoop to the levels of the Obamas and Clintons.

And with a level Playing Field the TEA PARTY will rise again, and conquer.

Just my opinion - but I think I am right.


Solar

Quote from: Rotwang on October 24, 2016, 07:15:13 PM
You are going to hate me.

You are not going to agree with me.

But I am voting Trump.

Not because I have a bromance with him.

But because he will crush our enemies, yet ultimately can be beaten himself.

He will not, I believe, stoop to the levels of the Obamas and Clintons.

And with a level Playing Field the TEA PARTY will rise again, and conquer.

Just my opinion - but I think I am right.
What you fail to grasp, is it's not Trump that's the problem, it's the GOP! Giving them what they want, simply enables them for another election cycle.
Started long ago, Nixon could be considered our first leftist, killing the gold standard, he opened the door for China to start stealing industry, then Bush who undid Reagan's policies later on, they helped Clinton with NAFTA.
Remember Dole the failure, then another Bush who didn't know he could say no to trillion dollar deficits?
Then they tried to shove the Maverick down our throats, then the pussy Mitten, and when the constituency said enough is enough, they called the base the enemy, refused to follow the rules setup by the RNC and killed the vote, in turn stealing the votes from Cruz and giving them to the NY Liberal.

Now put aside what it is you think Trump will do, knowing so far, he's flipped on every promise, but note the fact that the party hates us so much.
They killed off the only candidate that represents the ideals of the party, and instead, went with a candidate that aligns more with the dim constituency than he does the Right.
Now why in the world would you support a party that's openly trying to takeover the Dim party's political positions?
Think for yourself once, break the emotional grip the GOP placed on you with a trump candidacy, and ask yourself why they went with a total loser knowing the base already rejected him?

Point is, Trump hasn't a prayer of winning, so make your vote count another way. Show the party you're not a sheep to be lead around by the eartag.
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Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2016, 07:40:10 AM
What you fail to grasp, is it's not Trump that's the problem, it's the GOP! Giving them what they want, simply enables them for another election cycle.
Started long ago, Nixon could be considered our first leftist, killing the gold standard, he opened the door for China to start stealing industry, then Bush who undid Reagan's policies later on, they helped Clinton with NAFTA.
Remember Dole the failure, then another Bush who didn't know he could say no to trillion dollar deficits?
Then they tried to shove the Maverick down our throats, then the pussy Mitten, and when the constituency said enough is enough, they called the base the enemy, refused to follow the rules setup by the RNC and killed the vote, in turn stealing the votes from Cruz and giving them to the NY Liberal.

Now put aside what it is you think Trump will do, knowing so far, he's flipped on every promise, but note the fact that the party hates us so much.
They killed off the only candidate that represents the ideals of the party, and instead, went with a candidate that aligns more with the dim constituency than he does the Right.
Now why in the world would you support a party that's openly trying to takeover the Dim party's political positions?
Think for yourself once, break the emotional grip the GOP placed on you with a trump candidacy, and ask yourself why they went with a total loser knowing the base already rejected him?

Point is, Trump hasn't a prayer of winning, so make your vote count another way. Show the party you're not a sheep to be lead around by the eartag.

Correct on every count, except Trump is not really GOP.

I think you underestimate their hatred for him.

supsalemgr

Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2016, 07:40:10 AM
What you fail to grasp, is it's not Trump that's the problem, it's the GOP! Giving them what they want, simply enables them for another election cycle.
Started long ago, Nixon could be considered our first leftist, killing the gold standard, he opened the door for China to start stealing industry, then Bush who undid Reagan's policies later on, they helped Clinton with NAFTA.
Remember Dole the failure, then another Bush who didn't know he could say no to trillion dollar deficits?
Then they tried to shove the Maverick down our throats, then the pussy Mitten, and when the constituency said enough is enough, they called the base the enemy, refused to follow the rules setup by the RNC and killed the vote, in turn stealing the votes from Cruz and giving them to the NY Liberal.

Now put aside what it is you think Trump will do, knowing so far, he's flipped on every promise, but note the fact that the party hates us so much.
They killed off the only candidate that represents the ideals of the party, and instead, went with a candidate that aligns more with the dim constituency than he does the Right.
Now why in the world would you support a party that's openly trying to takeover the Dim party's political positions?
Think for yourself once, break the emotional grip the GOP placed on you with a trump candidacy, and ask yourself why they went with a total loser knowing the base already rejected him?

Point is, Trump hasn't a prayer of winning, so make your vote count another way. Show the party you're not a sheep to be lead around by the eartag.

The question is will GOPe accept a Trump loss as a rejection of them or blame it all on Trump and go on their merry way?
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

Solar

Quote from: Rotwang on October 25, 2016, 08:57:24 AM
Correct on every count, except Trump is not really GOP.

I think you underestimate their hatred for him.
Then why did they throw out the Conservative and nominate Trump if they hated him so much?
Answer: They think they can work with Trump, a known lib, someone that will promote the GOP leftist cause.
Seriously, it's time you used some critical thought here, the GOP called it's base, (which is 60% of their constituency) the enemy.
That's right, they are at war with their base, the very people that put them in office, and they want Trump.
Sheesh, can you even connect a few dots here?

The GOP is now run by Marxists, people that don't give a shit about the rule of law or the Constitution!
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Quote from: supsalemgr on October 25, 2016, 09:08:28 AM
The question is will GOPe accept a Trump loss as a rejection of them or blame it all on Trump and go on their merry way?
I don't think they really care. What mattered most was keeping the Conservative out of power.
The GOP know they can get what they want from the left, as evidenced by two open ended Omnibus Bills.
Having Trump lose, is far more important than having a Conservative win, so a Hillary win is a win for the GOP.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on October 25, 2016, 09:08:28 AM
The question is will GOPe accept a Trump loss as a rejection of them or blame it all on Trump and go on their merry way?

All Trump's fault.

Rotwang

Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2016, 10:13:18 AM
I don't think they really care. What mattered most was keeping the Conservative out of power.
The GOP know they can get what they want from the left, as evidenced by two open ended Omnibus Bills.
Having Trump lose, is far more important than having a Conservative win, so a Hillary win is a win for the GOP.

YES !!

Rotwang

Quote from: Solar on October 24, 2016, 11:23:20 AM
They outlawed bombs as well, but we still have home made bombs.

Forget C4.

How long before ISIS just straps a few Samsung Cell Phones together !