The problem with trying to "take from those who have" is two-fold.

a.  you gotta kill or disarm them first, without damaging what you're after.

b.  What means of transportation is still working to move the stolen booty?

Back to the EMP stuff.

MU metal is rather unique in it's ability to absorb and attenuate magnetic waves.  It is used in multiple layers to construct EMP proof containers, shield MRI machines...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu-metal

QuoteMu-metal typically has relative permeability values of 80,000–100,000 compared to several thousand for ordinary steel. It is a "soft" magnetic material; it has low magnetic anisotropy and magnetostriction,[1] giving it a low coercivity so that it saturates at low magnetic fields. This gives it low hysteresis losses when used in AC magnetic circuits. Other high-permeability nickel–iron alloys such as permalloy have similar magnetic properties; mu-metal's advantage is that it is more ductile and workable, allowing it to be easily formed into the thin sheets needed for magnetic shields.[1]

Mu-metal objects require heat treatment after they are in final form—annealing in a magnetic field in hydrogen atmosphere, which increases the magnetic permeability about 40 times.[4] The annealing alters the material's crystal structure, aligning the grains and removing some impurities, especially carbon, which obstruct the free motion of the magnetic domain boundaries. Bending or mechanical shock after annealing may disrupt the material's grain alignment, leading to a drop in the permeability of the affected areas, which can be restored by repeating the hydrogen annealing step.

A picture is shown in the link of a 5 layered box that attenuates the earth's magnetic field 1500x.

Everything I've read indicates a solar flare or EMP would probably be a low frequency wave of tremendous magnitude, continuous over a couple of days.  Layers and layers seems to be part of the solution for a container.

Another thing worth mentioning, is using the great attenuation of DIRT.  a CONEX box buried under a few feet of earth looks like the biggest bang for the buck.  Within the CONEX box, possibly more metal containers.


I have mixed feelings about putting HAM & CB radios, electronics, batteries, clocks, etc., inside multiple garbage cans.  Some Youtube videos demonstrate the RF shielding effects by placing a radio in a garbage can, taping it up and 'presto', the radio does go silent.  Sure, a very sensitive radio, designed for a micro-watt signal - is quite different than a Solar Flare which burned up telegraph lines.  I'm afraid the 1000 times more powerful pulse/flare wave that does penetrate the garbage can is going to leave a burnt up, smoky mess.  Anything that can carry current is probably going be electrically charged and quite HOT.   I like the earth as a better attenuator to dissipate the power.

Interesting note, for all the folks claiming everything from garbage cans to ammo cans are EMP proof, nobody has a sure fire method to determine if it's safe to open, short of burning your hands or getting a tremendous shock!  One site advocated a metal garage, ideally with a metal floor (?), a completely enclosed faraday type cage. 

Since I work daily in communications structures, built for lightning protection, the only metal in the floor is rebar, and certainly not enough to make a faraday cage.  The buildings do have EXTENSIVE buried ground grid systems.  Typically we see a ceiling loop around the inside of the structure, a similar loop with rods around the base of the structure.  Both loops are bonded/attached to eachother in several places (Cadwelded) including the gear inside the building and the wire mesh fence, gates - everything.  I've been inside these buildings when they were struck by lightning, it does work.

What completely RUINS the protection is wire leaving the structure, signal wires, Ethernet cables, telephone, coax, power wiring.  One of the buildings is near a 200' tower, which gets struck on a regular basis.  From the structure connected to that tower, our building is over 100' away, with a rather tiny little coax cable, buried between them... which is the entry point.  Plastic covers get blown open (and melted or burnt), communications gear gets smoked in a split second, and this is after travelling over 100' on a telephone cable / coax with very small 20awg conductors.

I'm confident that lightning pulse of many thousands of volts is being dissipated over that 100' - but not nearly enough to spare the electronics on either end.  Unlike a lightning bolt, a momentary surge, a solar flare is a continual wavelength of high power, everything that can conduct, will get very hot, and stay very hot for possibly days.  How would that metal garage hold up - good question!

An earth protected "box" still looks like the best choice.

North Korea is flying 2 satellites over the USA, in a polar orbit.

http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/07/29/north-korea-declares-state-war-us...hahahahahahaha/

I hope this nut doesn't get too pissed from being made fun of...  He's probably already run through a dozen possible scenarios in his tiny little head.  ....all we need is one of those, "I'll show them!" moments.

Quote from: Hoofer on July 30, 2016, 06:07:16 PM
North Korea is flying 2 satellites over the USA, in a polar orbit.

http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/07/29/north-korea-declares-state-war-us...hahahahahahaha/

I hope this nut doesn't get too pissed from being made fun of...  He's probably already run through a dozen possible scenarios in his tiny little head.  ....all we need is one of those, "I'll show them!" moments.

Hmmm, the equivalent of Sputnik with a camera.

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2016, 07:09:37 PM
Hmmm, the equivalent of Sputnik with a camera.

HEY!   Remember these guys landed a teenager on the back side of the Sun, and he was home in time for dinner!
Anything is possible...  "Given sufficient thrust, even Pigs can fly" ...

Quote from: Hoofer on August 02, 2016, 10:39:30 PM
HEY!   Remember these guys landed a teenager on the back side of the Sun, and he was home in time for dinner!
Anything is possible...  "Given sufficient thrust, even Pigs can fly" ...

I forgot all about that.

Quote from: Solar on August 03, 2016, 04:41:24 AM

I forgot all about that.

I am sure it's like the moon.    

It's very cold on the back side. 

Quote from: walkstall on August 03, 2016, 04:45:42 AM
I am sure it's like the moon.    

It's very cold on the back side. 

The cheese is much fresher there.

Quote from: Solar on August 03, 2016, 05:51:03 AM
The cheese is much fresher there.

I don't like cold cheese on a hot hamburger. 

Quote from: walkstall on August 03, 2016, 04:45:42 AM
I am sure it's like the moon.    

It's very cold on the back side. 

thanks... awfully good of you to point out sarcasm... for the sake of any Trump-a-loons reading this.
Hey man, people will believe anything they hear on the TV now days, like Trump is a Conservative Republican.