How To KILL A Raccoon That's Raiding Your Garden

Started by tbone0106, August 24, 2011, 06:48:20 PM

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samgoober

I do appreciate your concern about members posting too much information about themselves, but my last name isn't goober. :)  My nickname on all the forums in which I participate is always "samgoober". And Logan is the closest town to me (I live out in the country, between three towns actually.)

Anyhow, thank you again for your concern, but if you would, please change my nickname back to samgoober when you have a spare moment.

I'm really looking forward to getting to know folks here. Tbone, I hope you get some rain soon!

Respectfully,
Sam
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walkstall

Quote from: samgoober on July 14, 2012, 12:23:17 PM
I do appreciate your concern about members posting too much information about themselves, but my last name isn't goober. :)  My nickname on all the forums in which I participate is always "samgoober". And Logan is the closest town to me (I live out in the country, between three towns actually.)

Anyhow, thank you again for your concern, but if you would, please change my nickname back to samgoober when you have a spare moment.
I'm really looking forward to getting to know folks here. Tbone, I hope you get some rain soon!

Respectfully,
Sam

I did not change your aka (nickname) as you can see it is at the top of every post you make.  No one would change your aka from (samgoober) you would have to change it yourself.   A lot of us have the same aka from board to board, I go by walkstall on ever board I am on.  You will find some of us know each other from other boards.    So please grab a keyboard and enjoy yourself.
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Sword of Justice

Been away from the forum for a bit but wanted to post a follow up as an encouragement to others.  Much like Joe, my chicken flock had been decimated in short order from 30+ down to a dozen birds.  The GM/pop mixture most likely has allowed me to continue to have birds, as the mix has killed off at least 4-5 raccoons (all within very close proximity to my pen) in a little over a week.  The best news is this:  After being terrorized for a month, now we have had a peaceful 7-10 nights of no predation whatsoever!  :thumbsup: And I am also thrilled to report that my bowls of GM, which I take up ever morning after putting them out at dark, have gone untouched for 3 straight nights!

Something else of great interest has happened and I wonder if anyone else has observed this before.  Half of my remaining chickens have now gone broody and are sitting eggs, although this is not the typical time of year for them to do so (our temperatures have been upper 90s for awhile now).  It's as though they realized they were nearly wiped out and have taken it upon themselves to "restock"  :rolleyes:

Chicks will be arriving any day now, and I have high hopes the flock can be rebuilt.  I purchased a 5 lb can recently as "insurance" against a reinfestation in the future.

Good luck to all!

taxed

Quote from: Sword of Justice on July 20, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
Been away from the forum for a bit but wanted to post a follow up as an encouragement to others.  Much like Joe, my chicken flock had been decimated in short order from 30+ down to a dozen birds.  The GM/pop mixture most likely has allowed me to continue to have birds, as the mix has killed off at least 4-5 raccoons (all within very close proximity to my pen) in a little over a week.  The best news is this:  After being terrorized for a month, now we have had a peaceful 7-10 nights of no predation whatsoever!  :thumbsup: And I am also thrilled to report that my bowls of GM, which I take up ever morning after putting them out at dark, have gone untouched for 3 straight nights!

Something else of great interest has happened and I wonder if anyone else has observed this before.  Half of my remaining chickens have now gone broody and are sitting eggs, although this is not the typical time of year for them to do so (our temperatures have been upper 90s for awhile now).  It's as though they realized they were nearly wiped out and have taken it upon themselves to "restock"  :rolleyes:

Chicks will be arriving any day now, and I have high hopes the flock can be rebuilt.  I purchased a 5 lb can recently as "insurance" against a reinfestation in the future.

Good luck to all!

That's great SoJ!!!
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SWMP

What is everyone's experience with GM and the food chain.  If you use it on raccoons, do scavengers eat the raccoon carcass and ingest the GM and die as well?

tbone0106

Quote from: SWMP on July 22, 2012, 08:06:29 PM
What is everyone's experience with GM and the food chain.  If you use it on raccoons, do scavengers eat the raccoon carcass and ingest the GM and die as well?

I think I mentioned this before, but I'll repeat. In my experience, scavengers won't touch a GM-killed raccoon. We have plenty of coyotes and turkey buzzards around here, and lots of crows and opossums, but I've never seen anything disturb a GM-killed carcass.

Solar

In reading Govt websites, I found that there is a strong possibility of ground water contamination if you live in an area with shallow wells.
It would probably be a good idea to lay a large plastic tarp on the ground in the event of a down pour filling the pie tin and overflowing onto and leaching into the ground.
I also found where some states have fined people for using the product other than it's intended purpose, such as Indiana, where they want to make it illegal to purchase the product without a permit.

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bobthefarmer

Quote from: The mighty wu on August 25, 2011, 12:53:37 PM
I can't bear the thought of killing one of God's creatures. Therefore I always expect some attrition in my garden.

I have the same heart for the raccoon that he had for the six dead chickens whose body parts lay scattered around the coop.

walkstall

Quote from: bobthefarmer on July 23, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
I have the same heart for the raccoon that he had for the six dead chickens whose body parts lay scattered around the coop.

Sorry, Wu was not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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tbone0106

Quote from: bobthefarmer on July 23, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
I have the same heart for the raccoon that he had for the six dead chickens whose body parts lay scattered around the coop.

Uh, 10-4, Bob, and welcome to the forum!

I'm happy to report that I've gone at least two weeks without a nocturnal corn raid, and enjoyed the first mess of sweet corn, carefully steamed and slathered in butter and salted, just last evening. My garden has been raided twice now, I think, by a deer, and I've found a deer bed in the weeds on the back part of the property. But deer, like dogs, cats, and most other animals won't touch the GM mix. What I'm celebrating is that I'm beginning to think I've thinned the astounding herd of 'coons in this neck of the woods.

I am the proud owner of a ridiculous-looking cat (I call her "Frankenkitty" because she looks like something assembled from spare parts from various cats.) who is out and about all day long; she saunters past the bait pans without even looking at them.

Solar, I understand and appreciate your concerns about inadvertent poisonings and introduction into the water supply and the questionable legality of using insecticides improperly. I've mentioned here before that I know of only one inadvertent poisoning -- of a robin who attempted to pick some of the dead flies out of a bait pan. That is one inadvertent poisoning in two growing seasons.

As for groundwater, your suggestion of a tarp is a good one, and dilution is the obvious method of dispersing the stuff. Where I live, the groundwater is deep; my personal well is down 135'. Obviously, where wells are shallow, much more caution should be exercised.

Again, dogs and cats don't care for the mix I use, else there'd be dead dogs and cats all over the place every morning. As I've mentioned above, a deer has been picking through my produce (unmistakable tracks), and it has not touched the stuff.

The description of the mix as looking like "KoolAid" in that Wisconsin report is simply untrue. The stuff looks like bluish motor oil and stinks like you wouldn't believe.  It is NOT a "fishy smell" as the article claims; it is a rank, nasty chemical smell, not too far from the stench of gearcase oil.

All that being said, I still recommend that anyone using this method to control raccoons use the UTMOST caution in every respect. Remember that you're dealing with a deadly poison! Wear gloves when handling the stuff. Exercise caution and common sense when placing it and disposing of it. Be aware that it may be a violation of your local laws to use GM in this manner.

Solar

Quote from: tbone0106 on July 23, 2012, 12:44:21 PM
Uh, 10-4, Bob, and welcome to the forum!

I'm happy to report that I've gone at least two weeks without a nocturnal corn raid, and enjoyed the first mess of sweet corn, carefully steamed and slathered in butter and salted, just last evening. My garden has been raided twice now, I think, by a deer, and I've found a deer bed in the weeds on the back part of the property. But deer, like dogs, cats, and most other animals won't touch the GM mix. What I'm celebrating is that I'm beginning to think I've thinned the astounding herd of 'coons in this neck of the woods.

I am the proud owner of a ridiculous-looking cat (I call her "Frankenkitty" because she looks like something assembled from spare parts from various cats.) who is out and about all day long; she saunters past the bait pans without even looking at them.

Solar, I understand and appreciate your concerns about inadvertent poisonings and introduction into the water supply and the questionable legality of using insecticides improperly. I've mentioned here before that I know of only one inadvertent poisoning -- of a robin who attempted to pick some of the dead flies out of a bait pan. That is one inadvertent poisoning in two growing seasons.

As for groundwater, your suggestion of a tarp is a good one, and dilution is the obvious method of dispersing the stuff. Where I live, the groundwater is deep; my personal well is down 135'. Obviously, where wells are shallow, much more caution should be exercised.

Again, dogs and cats don't care for the mix I use, else there'd be dead dogs and cats all over the place every morning. As I've mentioned above, a deer has been picking through my produce (unmistakable tracks), and it has not touched the stuff.

The description of the mix as looking like "KoolAid" in that Wisconsin report is simply untrue. The stuff looks like bluish motor oil and stinks like you wouldn't believe.  It is NOT a "fishy smell" as the article claims; it is a rank, nasty chemical smell, not too far from the stench of gearcase oil.

All that being said, I still recommend that anyone using this method to control raccoons use the UTMOST caution in every respect. Remember that you're dealing with a deadly poison! Wear gloves when handling the stuff. Exercise caution and common sense when placing it and disposing of it. Be aware that it may be a violation of your local laws to use GM in this manner.
T, please keep in mind, when I post, it's not all about you, the world does not evolve around you. :wink: :biggrin:

I post the information for the lurkers, the people looking for solutions, but unfortunately not everyone is as smart as those participating on this forum.
As proof of stupid people in this country, I evidence Hussein, he didn't get in office because smart people voted for him, rather quite the opposite.

So please understand, when I post in this thread, it's not so much for the consumption for those already posting, but those skimming through seeking a quick fix to their problem.

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tbone0106

Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2012, 01:21:13 PM
T, please keep in mind, when I post, it's not all about you, the world does not evolve around you. :wink: :biggrin:

WHAT???!!!!

And just when did THIS come about??!!  :tounge: :tounge: :lol: :lol:

I gotta go now. The missus just brought me a slice of humble pie....

:tounge: :tounge: :tounge:

Solar

Quote from: tbone0106 on July 24, 2012, 02:35:57 PM
WHAT???!!!!

And just when did THIS come about??!!  :tounge: :tounge: :lol: :lol:

I gotta go now. The missus just brought me a slice of humble pie....

:tounge: :tounge: :tounge:
Hold the crow for desert. :wink: :biggrin:

But you've got to admit, based on the fact that Hussein made it to the WH, is solid proof stupid inhabit this country.
Wait, maybe I shouldn't post any warnings. :blink:
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Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Hold the crow for desert. :wink: :biggrin:

But you've got to admit, based on the fact that Hussein made it to the WH, is solid proof stupid inhabit this country.
Wait, maybe I shouldn't post any warnings. :blink:

Ah, we live in a world that is almost completely fashioned around that old arithmetic standby -- the Least Common Denominator. Who was that TV executive that admitted so long ago that most network programming was aimed at the intellect of a 12-year-old?

Hey, if you're looking for ratings -- if you're looking for widespread acceptance, like maybe you're trying to get elected or something -- you fashion your message to appeal to the average 12-year-old, the old LCD. If the 12-year-olds get it, you'll gather up the rest of the watchers and listeners.

Solar

Quote from: tbone0106 on July 24, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
Ah, we live in a world that is almost completely fashioned around that old arithmetic standby -- the Least Common Denominator. Who was that TV executive that admitted so long ago that most network programming was aimed at the intellect of a 12-year-old?

Hey, if you're looking for ratings -- if you're looking for widespread acceptance, like maybe you're trying to get elected or something -- you fashion your message to appeal to the average 12-year-old, the old LCD. If the 12-year-olds get it, you'll gather up the rest of the watchers and listeners.
You just know some idiot sued over their own stupidity.
I wonder which orifice they stuck it in.

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