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Gun control - via shortages
« on: December 29, 2020, 03:45:45 PM »
A friend of mine asked me to "visit" gun stores while I travel (work takes me all over the place), he's building an AR-something.
Any parts are hard to find, several places say the stuff comes in, and a few hours later, it's gone, people are buying everything we order.   Even reloading powder is drying up.  Popular calibers have been hard to find for months, and now the less popular calibers are being bought up.

Is it a shortage because of demand?
Shortage because manufacturing or supplies for manufacture are short?
Are the factories that produce the parts - partially or completely shut down, thanks to Wuhan Flu?

Nobody has had an answer.
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Re: Gun control - via shortages
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2020, 03:58:23 PM »
A friend of mine asked me to "visit" gun stores while I travel (work takes me all over the place), he's building an AR-something.
Any parts are hard to find, several places say the stuff comes in, and a few hours later, it's gone, people are buying everything we order.   Even reloading powder is drying up.  Popular calibers have been hard to find for months, and now the less popular calibers are being bought up.

Is it a shortage because of demand?
Shortage because manufacturing or supplies for manufacture are short?
Are the factories that produce the parts - partially or completely shut down, thanks to Wuhan Flu?

Nobody has had an answer.
that would be my guess. With all the liberal riots and their destroying, on top of that you have liberals in charge who will not bring charges, there is a whole group of citizens who are buying who probably never bought before. Add to that the ones stocking up in case the riots come to their area. My problem is a little different, I had always wanted to get into reloading after retiring. But after the last shortage, I went bat sh-t crazy and made sure I would never run out again, of any of my calibers. So unless I buy another gun,(I had to type that real quite like so the wife would not hear that) I will not only not reload, I will probably not buy any ammo again.

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Re: Gun control - via shortages
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2020, 05:02:57 PM »
A friend of mine asked me to "visit" gun stores while I travel (work takes me all over the place), he's building an AR-something.
Any parts are hard to find, several places say the stuff comes in, and a few hours later, it's gone, people are buying everything we order.   Even reloading powder is drying up.  Popular calibers have been hard to find for months, and now the less popular calibers are being bought up.

Is it a shortage because of demand?
Shortage because manufacturing or supplies for manufacture are short?
Are the factories that produce the parts - partially or completely shut down, thanks to Wuhan Flu?

Nobody has had an answer.
A friend of mine was having trouble finding parts for his AR, so he hit a small machine shop, had the part that week and cheaper than had he bought it new.
The shop said all the plans are public, all they had to do was download  to their machine and in no time it had cut a new part.
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Re: Gun control - via shortages
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2020, 05:05:27 PM »
that would be my guess. With all the liberal riots and their destroying, on top of that you have liberals in charge who will not bring charges, there is a whole group of citizens who are buying who probably never bought before. Add to that the ones stocking up in case the riots come to their area. My problem is a little different, I had always wanted to get into reloading after retiring. But after the last shortage, I went bat sh-t crazy and made sure I would never run out again, of any of my calibers. So unless I buy another gun,(I had to type that real quite like so the wife would not hear that) I will not only not reload, I will probably not buy any ammo again.

Which is fine with me, the more guns, the less likely laws against gun ownership will ever come to fruition.   I HOPE the "new owners" at least take gun safety / hunter safety / CCW classes and practice, or there will be accidental shootings.  When it comes to accidental discharges, there are 2 groups, those who have, and those who will again.

I commend you for thinking ahead and stocking up.   I wish I had seen the price of lead shot rising above $6 a bag ... would have filled a garage with it.   It is rather reassuring to open a long ago, sealed ammo can, and seeing the sale price on a box of bullets, @12.95 for 100...  and wifey nods approvingly.
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Re: Gun control - via shortages
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2020, 07:39:19 AM »
Which is fine with me, the more guns, the less likely laws against gun ownership will ever come to fruition.   I HOPE the "new owners" at least take gun safety / hunter safety / CCW classes and practice, or there will be accidental shootings.  When it comes to accidental discharges, there are 2 groups, those who have, and those who will again.

I commend you for thinking ahead and stocking up.   I wish I had seen the price of lead shot rising above $6 a bag ... would have filled a garage with it.   It is rather reassuring to open a long ago, sealed ammo can, and seeing the sale price on a box of bullets, @12.95 for 100...  and wifey nods approvingly.

Any "negligent discharges" will be touted by the Democrats and their media lap dogs as a reason for gun control. They will of course blame it on "right wingers" as if they are the only ones who buy firearms. The gullible will believe them, just as the gullible buy into defunding law enforcement, abortion and other horrific policies of the left.

I have a friend who told me way before all of this nonsense that I should put my money into ammunition and firearms. Neither one of us knew how on point he was at the time!
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Re: Gun control - via shortages
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2020, 10:03:02 AM »
Any "negligent discharges" will be touted by the Democrats and their media lap dogs as a reason for gun control. They will of course blame it on "right wingers" as if they are the only ones who buy firearms. The gullible will believe them, just as the gullible buy into defunding law enforcement, abortion and other horrific policies of the left.

I have a friend who told me way before all of this nonsense that I should put my money into ammunition and firearms. Neither one of us knew how on point he was at the time!

Funny how every Liberal solution, is just "feel good" talk & no action.... but, as for the law-abiding, punish them!
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Gun control - and regulations
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2021, 03:59:42 PM »
Was chatting with a gentleman who has decades of experience - not just random speculation.

Remember when Obama reclassified certain components so the cost of shipping skyrocketed?
That's one way the Libs use regulations to jack up prices.
Gun Powder, Lead, primers - can be reclassified as a new degree of "Hazardous Materials" - limiting the volume (pounds), distance transported, increasing inspections, mode of transportation, etc., and what once cost a few $ to ship, becomes so costly, the shipping is more than the components.

We've already been hearing about the $200 annual TAX on semi-automatics & +10 round magazines - so much so, and gaslighted so often, geee... kinda EXPECTING it now!  I suppose if you disabled the "gas system" on an AR-xx gun, it becomes a sort of "manual bolt action" rifle/pistol?

Just "how many" rounds of ammunition is a "reasonable amount" to own/store on your property, before you need a special storage permit, extra home owner's insurance, waivers, training.   Even 100 rounds, seems like an "arsenal - stockpile" of ammunition.  500 round brick of 22 rim fire - might quickly be a 'thing of the past', arousing suspicion if you purchased more than 50 rounds of good-ole Remington Thunderbolt (the name sounds kinda scary, regulate it!).  Joe Biden said, "you don't need 10 rounds to kill a deer." - but, in those 47 years in congress, I wonder, did Joe Biden EVER go hunting?  Even once?

Speaking of AR-xx rifle / pistol, I had no idea of how many people are deer hunting with AR-15 Pistols, chambering 300BLK.   It's quite popular!  After looking one over at a recent gun show, I can see why a nice compact gun <20" overall, like that would be preferable to a 36" rifle.   Just walking through the woods with a long gun, seeing a deer, and swinging that thing around, attracts attention.   But, slowly lifting an AR-15 pistol slung under your arm into position - definitely an advantage!

Regulation requiring "cards" for everything purchased, guns, bullets, powder, primers, loaded cartridges (Chicago had that).  New regulation requiring "how" your gun is stored & heavy fines if it's not stored in accordance with the law.   No more gun above the fireplace mantel or above the door or in a hidden safe - nope, it's now stored in a locked safe, with a trigger lock, magazine in another storage place, and ammo in a third place.  You're quizzed by your Doctor, Teacher, public official, if you're 100% compliant - and sigh an affidavit (under penalty of law).  Every "step" from purchasing to "storage" to "using" your firearm has a new regulation - break one of them, and lose the right to own a gun entirely.

Of course, there's the "unwanted noise" ordinances, why just local municipalities, when it can be national?   And don't stop there, OSHA might ban the discharge of a firearm - it's TOO LOUD, so every gun *must* have a silencer/suppressor, buuuuttt... they already have a year long wait, and tax stamp and background check.  Hearing protection, eye protection, face masks, recoil protections - all kinds of stuff to "keep you safer" - and dumb down the sport shooter.

Got a range you shoot at?   Maybe they need to carry $10 million insurance.  Same for the gun stores, new insurance regulation if you "transport a firearm".. anywhere! 
Just brainstorming with this fellow, he was relating some of the stuff EU gun owners go through, and it came as no surprise to me, "you gotta be pretty RICH & well connected to own a firearm". 

Bottom line:  You *can* own any firearm you wish.  You're precious 2nd amendment is still intact, nobody is disputing your *right* to keep and bear arms.... but, can you AFFORD to?
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Re: Gun control - via shortages
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2021, 04:47:33 PM »
Oh - forgot to mention the Red Flag Laws.
Vets accused of suffering from PTSD have lost their guns - expect to see those laws enacted nationwide, and enforced vigorously.
Neighbor accuses a gun owner of threatening them - he got his handgun back after proving it was false (or course, the neighbor wasn't charged with filing a false report).


For the Globalist... making America "look like" the EU and countries without guns, that's the beginning.
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Re: Gun control - via shortages
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2021, 12:45:26 PM »
Food for thought, they *must* have been disarmed, right?

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edit, maybe this one is better?
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