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Title: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: AmericanFlyer on November 21, 2010, 08:04:35 AM
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Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: Solars Toy on November 21, 2010, 08:40:35 AM
Thanks for the info and the links... ;)

I had just bought 50 lbs of flour and 25 lbs of sugar and was just debating the best way to store it.  I am mostly concerned about the flour.  Since moving up here I have been buying lots more in bulk and with the way things are going am stocking up even more.

Information like this becomes extremely helpful. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: walkstall on November 21, 2010, 08:59:11 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on November 21, 2010, 08:40:35 AM
Thanks for the info and the links... ;)

I had just bought 50 lbs of flour and 25 lbs of sugar and was just debating the best way to store it.  I am mostly concerned about the flour.  Since moving up here I have been buying lots more in bulk and with the way things are going am stocking up even more.

Information like this becomes extremely helpful. :) :) :)

ST, I use the FoodSaver® Vacuum sealing system.  Then place into storage contaner with data and amount on each package.


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Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: Solars Toy on November 21, 2010, 09:40:45 AM
Quote from: walkstall on November 21, 2010, 08:59:11 AM
ST, I use the FoodSaver® Vacuum sealing system.  Then place into storage contaner with data and amount on each package.


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Great idea WT...I had forgot about those.  Solar thinks his Mom may have one she isn't using anymore.... ::) ::)

I will have to check it out.  :) :)
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: AmericanFlyer on November 21, 2010, 12:13:46 PM
Great point, walkstall.  OXYGEN is the worst enemy of long-term food storage.  That's why long-term storage items, like freeze-dried and dehydrated foods, are usually packed in oxygen-free containers, using nitrogen in place of oxygen.  TEMPERATURE is the second-worst enemy of long-term food storage.  The cooler, the better.

I guess the lesson here is to NEVER throw away anything that is sealed in cans, no matter what the expiration date is.

The expiration dates on many grocery items (especially canned, vacuum-sealed and dry goods) are completely BOGUS, and are basically used to get you to throw away perfectly good food and buy more.  It's no different than the "change your engine oil every 3,000 miles" myth.
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: walkstall on December 01, 2010, 08:42:58 AM
Hmmmm.....Something I came across.   Butter Powder, Egg Powder, Buttermilk Powder, and Sour Cream Powder. 


You may like checking it out for other things  ;D  (http://beprepared.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_920_A_c2c_E_tn_A_name_E_FoodStorage)

They also have a Year Supply of Food(s) if you look around on the site.





Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: Solars Toy on December 03, 2010, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: walkstall on December 01, 2010, 08:42:58 AM
Hmmmm.....Something I came across.   Butter Powder, Egg Powder, Buttermilk Powder, and Sour Cream Powder. 


You may like checking it out for other things  ;D  (http://beprepared.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_920_A_c2c_E_tn_A_name_E_FoodStorage)

They also have a Year Supply of Food(s) if you look around on the site.

Thanks WT I will go check out the site.. :)
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: AmericanFlyer on December 03, 2010, 07:39:56 PM
I really should make a list of the websites that I have used for information and purchases.  There are many good ones out there, and some of them have already been listed in here.
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: Solars Toy on December 04, 2010, 08:01:54 AM
Quote from: AmericanFlyer on December 03, 2010, 07:39:56 PM
I really should make a list of the websites that I have used for information and purchases.  There are many good ones out there, and some of them have already been listed in here.

Lord knows I like to surf the web.....   

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Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: REDWHITEBLUE2 on December 04, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on December 04, 2010, 08:01:54 AM
Lord knows I like to surf the web.....   

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Well you do live in CA never know when you might have to surf off the mountain after the big one :D
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: Solars Toy on December 04, 2010, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: REDWHITEBLUE2 on December 04, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
Well you do live in CA never know when you might have to surf off the mountain after the big one :D

We'll use Solar's kayak..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: surfer_squirrel on December 05, 2010, 12:48:21 PM
Quote from: walkstall on November 21, 2010, 08:59:11 AM
ST, I use the FoodSaver® Vacuum sealing system.  Then place into storage contaner with data and amount on each package.


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I have been storing dry foods and baking needs for years using half-gallon and quart ball jars. The FoodSaver has a vacuum adapter to fit the tops of small and large mouth jars. Have never had anything go bad yet.  :)
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: Solars Toy on December 05, 2010, 01:24:38 PM
Quote from: surfer_squirrel on December 05, 2010, 12:48:21 PM
I have been storing dry foods and baking needs for years using half-gallon and quart ball jars. The FoodSaver has a vacuum adapter to fit the tops of small and large mouth jars. Have never had anything go bad yet.  :)

I have been looking at the jar attachment it looks really interesting.  And very usable since it is just Solar and me. :) :)
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: walkstall on December 05, 2010, 01:32:05 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on December 05, 2010, 01:24:38 PM
I have been looking at the jar attachment it looks really interesting.  And very usable since it is just Solar and me. :) :)

Thing nice about them, you can reseal the jars after you get what you need.  Along using them over and over. 
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: surfer_squirrel on December 05, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
We get Nishiki rice in 18 lb bags and it fills 5 half-gallon jars plus one quart jar. With coffee we buy 3 lb whole bean coffee (grind ours fresh for each brewed 12 cup pot) and that fills 2 half-gallon jars. I love cashews and we buy them in quantity when on sale. We keep at least 3 half-gallon jars of cashews. We also jar pinto beans, kidney beans, soy nuts, pasta, corn meal and dehydrated peppers, tomatoes and onions. I don't think we have to worry if there is a depression ahead, got the food and water covered very well.  ;D
Title: Re: Canned Food, Dry Food, and Their REAL Shelf Lives
Post by: Solars Toy on December 05, 2010, 05:34:55 PM
Quote from: surfer_squirrel on December 05, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
We get Nishiki rice in 18 lb bags and it fills 5 half-gallon jars plus one quart jar. With coffee we buy 3 lb whole bean coffee (grind ours fresh for each brewed 12 cup pot) and that fills 2 half-gallon jars. I love cashews and we buy them in quantity when on sale. We keep at least 3 half-gallon jars of cashews. We also jar pinto beans, kidney beans, soy nuts, pasta, corn meal and dehydrated peppers, tomatoes and onions. I don't think we have to worry if there is a depression ahead, got the food and water covered very well.  ;D

I think you do.... :) :) :)