at what price to survive

Started by offgridbob, December 09, 2010, 10:47:36 PM

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Solar

Quote from: Elfie on December 13, 2010, 08:56:56 AM
i understand..... it would be ugly and pretty darned gross at that.....
It would be a time when people have to swallow their pride.
You're right about those without a skill, would probably be at the bottom of the Totem pole.
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walkstall

Quote from: Solar on December 13, 2010, 07:45:15 AM
I was discerning between the hunters and warriors, those that can do neither, had to clean up after those that could.

I get your point though, about simply caring for your fellow man.
But I think it differs from city to rural domiciles.
For instance, in my area, we would work together separately, in the city, I would imagine people would have to group closely together.

When you live 30 to 60 miles out of town it is a way of life. 

In my area, when the call for help goes out.  People and equipment come out of the wood work. It is the way of life, they don't sit around saying it not my job. 
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Elfie

Quote from: Solar on December 13, 2010, 09:01:57 AM
It would be a time when people have to swallow their pride.
You're right about those without a skill, would probably be at the bottom of the Totem pole.

everyone would have a job thats for sure....
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Solar

Quote from: walkstall on December 13, 2010, 09:06:43 AM
When you live 30 to 60 miles out of town it is a way of life. 

In my area, when the call for help goes out.  People and equipment come out of the wood work. It is the way of life, they don't sit around saying it not my job.
Exactly!
It can take as much as an hour for help to arrive here as well.
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Elfie

Quote from: walkstall on December 13, 2010, 09:06:43 AM
When you live 30 to 60 miles out of town it is a way of life. 

In my area, when the call for help goes out.  People and equipment come out of the wood work. It is the way of life, they don't sit around saying it not my job.

thats how it is to the river to.....
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Eyesabide

Actually, Those without practical  skills are pretty usefull. These are your sentrys, caretakers for the infirm, students, food gatherers, repair persons, messengers, in some cases they can be good leaders.

Problems come in with people who have skills who think they should be privileged because they posess a certain talent or skill.
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Solar

Quote from: Eyesabide on December 13, 2010, 09:48:13 AM
Actually, Those without practical  skills are pretty usefull. These are your sentrys, caretakers for the infirm, students, food gatherers, repair persons, messengers, in some cases they can be good leaders.
I would consider some of those skills.
QuoteProblems come in with people who have skills who think they should be privileged because they posess a certain talent or skill.
Or those that have actually done nothing but use others money, to acquire their own.
That is more the kind of person I was thinking of, a person that has pretty much done nothing in life, but use others to make their way.
They are quickly either going to humble themselves, or go it alone.
I have no use for bankers. ;D
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Quote from: Eyesabide on December 13, 2010, 09:48:13 AM
Actually, Those without practical  skills are pretty usefull. These are your sentrys, caretakers for the infirm, students, food gatherers, repair persons, messengers, in some cases they can be good leaders.

Problems come in with people who have skills who think they should be privileged because they posess a certain talent or skill.


Your very wise for your age Eyes.  But then you also have training in this area. Always nice having someone who has walked the talk young man.
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offgridbob

Ya the flatlanders having to group together, that's just what the enemy would want. It makes them a bigger target that way :P I can just visualize an army of hiphoppers and rappers with their pants down around their ass charging the enemy with game boys in one hand and a cell phone in the other. O. K. now y'all can help me out>>>> what would be their battle cry. maybe just maybe it would be Waaa Waaa :'(

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Quote from: walkstall on December 13, 2010, 09:06:43 AM
When you live 30 to 60 miles out of town it is a way of life. 

In my area, when the call for help goes out.  People and equipment come out of the wood work. It is the way of life, they don't sit around saying it not my job.

Just before Thanksgiving a large tree fell across the road a mile or so from the house.  One of the neighbors went a cut a chunk out and left just enough room to drive a car through.   Finally one day I mentioned to Solar that it still hadn't been cleaned up.  He took our tractor down got the tree totally out of the way, pushed the debris the other guy left in the way out of the road and then scrapped the entire road of all the mud and crap.   The guy who originally took out the chunk came out and started complaining to Solar that it was okay the way it was and that he shouldn't be messing with it.  Solar told him that I had been having trouble getting through to which the guy called me stupid....   So far the UPS guys have thanked us, and several other neighbors.....I guess you can't make everyone happy... 8)
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walkstall

Quote from: Solars Toy on December 13, 2010, 07:30:49 PM
Just before Thanksgiving a large tree fell across the road a mile or so from the house.  One of the neighbors went a cut a chunk out and left just enough room to drive a car through.   Finally one day I mentioned to Solar that it still hadn't been cleaned up.  He took our tractor down got the tree totally out of the way, pushed the debris the other guy left in the way out of the road and then scrapped the entire road of all the mud and crap.   The guy who originally took out the chunk came out and started complaining to Solar that it was okay the way it was and that he shouldn't be messing with it.  Solar told him that I had been having trouble getting through to which the guy called me stupid....   So far the UPS guys have thanked us, and several other neighbors.....I guess you can't make everyone happy... 8)

Around my area a farmer would fly in a choppers and move the full tree out.  LOL 
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Elfie

Quote from: offgridbob on December 13, 2010, 07:20:04 PM
Ya the flatlanders having to group together, that's just what the enemy would want. It makes them a bigger target that way :P I can just visualize an army of hiphoppers and rappers with their pants down around their ass charging the enemy with game boys in one hand and a cell phone in the other. O. K. now y'all can help me out>>>> what would be their battle cry. maybe just maybe it would be Waaa Waaa :'(
more like yo-yo-yo fashizzle
Nature is an infinite sphere of which the center is everywhere and the circumference nowhere.
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Elfie

Quote from: Solars Toy on December 13, 2010, 07:30:49 PM
Just before Thanksgiving a large tree fell across the road a mile or so from the house.  One of the neighbors went a cut a chunk out and left just enough room to drive a car through.   Finally one day I mentioned to Solar that it still hadn't been cleaned up.  He took our tractor down got the tree totally out of the way, pushed the debris the other guy left in the way out of the road and then scrapped the entire road of all the mud and crap.   The guy who originally took out the chunk came out and started complaining to Solar that it was okay the way it was and that he shouldn't be messing with it.  Solar told him that I had been having trouble getting through to which the guy called me stupid....   So far the UPS guys have thanked us, and several other neighbors.....I guess you can't make everyone happy... 8)
That was good of Solar to do...  Who knows about the other guy,,,maybe he just wanted  room enough for his vehicles... there's always gonna be someone who complains about that....
Nature is an infinite sphere of which the center is everywhere and the circumference nowhere.
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tbone0106

Quote from: Eyesabide on December 13, 2010, 09:48:13 AM
Actually, Those without practical  skills are pretty usefull. These are your sentrys, caretakers for the infirm, students, food gatherers, repair persons, messengers, in some cases they can be good leaders.

Problems come in with people who have skills who think they should be privileged because they posess a certain talent or skill.

Are you fond of the term "drones?"

Who gets to decide what skills are "practical" in your world?


AmericanFlyer

Between the wife and I, we have most things covered, skill-wise, and our supply cache is formidable.  One of the more important skills that I need to practice more often are my shooting skills.  When you live out in the middle of nowhere, gunfire is as common as farm equipment.   ;D