Ask a Militia Member anything

Started by Gator Monroe, November 17, 2014, 05:01:24 PM

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Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 08:09:59 AM
A good cheap home method is old cast iron sewer pipe. Break off one end at an angle, take a hammer and knock holes in the side of the pipe near the angled end and slide it down along the outside the outer ring of the fire.
This will allow the fire to draw outside air and lay a flat sheet of steel over the fire to cook on without smothering out the fire, and allow you to conceal it if necessary for whatever reason.

As a kid in the early 60s my dad and I dug a fire pit to smoke a pig and the pipe actually let in too much air, so he had to cover it a bit.
Ooo, ok,,,and so when I must know ,no scribble that, when its time I should have to do this, I will remember the theory,in elf logic, of it as a rather large rocket stove.  Firepit size,yes?
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Solar

Quote from: Dr. Meh on November 23, 2014, 08:54:45 AM
Nope. Google is your friend. Being in California and within that age range, I can claim to be a militia member by your "logic." Regardless, militias are not legal in California despite what your drinking buddies you "train" with tell you.
I appreciate your point, but had to ask what you mean about Militias being illegal in Ca?
I live in Ca and have been to Militia meetings. The leader of the Militia at the time was my friend, the Sheriff of the county and leader of the militia.
So I'm a bit confused as to your point. Did you see some hidden clause I was unaware of  in determining what qualified as a militia in Ca?
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California is the Strongest Militia state in America ( I know I'm a part of the Modern Militia Movement for 3 years) the poster who claimed illegality is EITHER TROLLING or just as 75% of the other folks in life or on the web (suffering from memory of the Militias of the early eighties or he lives in a "So Called Free State" that made militia activity illegal.

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California Constitution:

Article VII.

Militia.

Sec. 1. The Legislature shall provide by law for organising and disciplining the militia, in such manner as they shall deem expedient, not incompatible with the Constitution and laws of the United States.

Sec. 2. Officers of the militia shall be elected, or appointed, in such a manner as the Legislature shall from time to time direct, and shall be commissioned by the governor.

Sec. 3. The governor shall have power to call forth the militia, to execute the laws of the State, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasions.

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Dr. Meh

Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 09:37:41 AM
I appreciate your point, but had to ask what you mean about Militias being illegal in Ca?
I live in Ca and have been to Militia meetings. The leader of the Militia at the time was my friend, the Sheriff of the county and leader of the militia.
So I'm a bit confused as to your point. Did you see some hidden clause I was unaware of  in determining what qualified as a militia in Ca?

Technically, the only legal organized militia is the National Guard. California penal code section 11460 forbids the organized training of paramilitary groups. Now, you can have an unorganized militia so long as there is no formal training involved. Once there is, it becomes illegal as it is now an organized militia.

From my understanding, the problem lies in the enforcement of this law as there are a number of organizations that call themselves militias and have yet to get busted for it.

My bigger point is that OP is a condescending douche who acts like he knows everything about survival while we know nothing. He acts as though he's doing all of us a favor by answering any question we may have. Gee thanks, bud. We'd be lost without you. What a douche.

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The OP did not claim to know everything and the term "Paramilitary" does not apply to our training that is speculation on your part  BTW is "Douche" is what your ex wife called you ?

Dr. Meh

Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 23, 2014, 11:01:45 AM
The OP did not claim to know everything and the term "Paramilitary" does not apply to our training that is speculation on your part  BTW is "Douche" is what your ex wife called you ?

No ex-wife, douche. So your "militia" doesn't engage in military style training? Again, just a bunch of drunken morons hanging out in the woods.

And yes, saying "ask me anything" implies that you know everything. Douche.

Gator Monroe

Quote from: Dr. Meh on November 22, 2014, 05:34:20 PM
Soooo you're not part of a militia. It's illegal in California. You can be a part of a club or something but you and your drinking buddies does not constitute a militia. Not sure why you feel we'd all be chomping at the bit to ask a "militia" member survival questions. I reckon most here are more qualified than you in the art of survival. Certainly more qualified than you give them credit for.
Most here are not hostile to people who prepare and liaise with Law Enforcement while doing it  do it legally ...

Dr. Meh

Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 23, 2014, 11:11:18 AM
Most here are not hostile to people who prepare and liaise with Law Enforcement while doing it  do it legally ...

Nope, most aren't. Myself included. I'm only hostile to rude scumbags who have an unwarranted, out of control, narcissistic ego. New guy jumps in here like he's saving the day for everyone rather than offering answers to questions being asked. "Hey guys, me and my friends play pretend army in the woods. That makes me an expert on survival. Ask me anything and I'll answer it." Do you see how douchey that sounds? You jump in here with little to no respect for anyone and expect everyone to be blown away by your "qualifications." I can't stand people like you. What's worse is that you can't even defend yourself by returning insults or making valid points. Instead, you resort to attempting to attack family members? Pathetic douche.

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Quote from: Dr. Meh on November 23, 2014, 11:22:58 AM
Nope, most aren't. Myself included. I'm only hostile to rude scumbags who have an unwarranted, out of control, narcissistic ego. New guy jumps in here like he's saving the day for everyone rather than offering answers to questions being asked. "Hey guys, me and my friends play pretend army in the woods. That makes me an expert on survival. Ask me anything and I'll answer it." Do you see how douchey that sounds? You jump in here with little to no respect for anyone and expect everyone to be blown away by your "qualifications." I can't stand people like you. What's worse is that you can't even defend yourself by returning insults or making valid points. Instead, you resort to attempting to attack family members? Pathetic douche.


I for one don't care what you think about him.   IF he has some good points.  Then use them, if not then just move on.   This board is about "Survival Tips".  Remember some of us were not blown away by your "qualifications" when you started posting. :lol:
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Solar

Quote from: Dr. Meh on November 23, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
Technically, the only legal organized militia is the National Guard. California penal code section 11460 forbids the organized training of paramilitary groups. Now, you can have an unorganized militia so long as there is no formal training involved. Once there is, it becomes illegal as it is now an organized militia.

From my understanding, the problem lies in the enforcement of this law as there are a number of organizations that call themselves militias and have yet to get busted for it.

My bigger point is that OP is a condescending douche who acts like he knows everything about survival while we know nothing. He acts as though he's doing all of us a favor by answering any question we may have. Gee thanks, bud. We'd be lost without you. What a douche.
I see your point. So I looked it up, and there is a distinguishable difference in state and Federal militias, such as the NG.
The Fed and state have control over the NG, but the Founders also understood that the state may also have need of protecting it's own best interests which is why there has been no action regarding to private militia within the state.

Lets pray we never come to the point where the need for distinction is made due to a standoff over the legal status of a private militia.

A group of private citizens who train for military duty in order to be ready to defend their state or country in times of emergency. A militia is distinct from regular military forces, which are units of professional soldiers maintained both in war and peace by the federal government.

In the United States, as of the early 2000s, the National Guard serves as the nation's militia. Made up of volunteers, the National Guard acts under the dual authority of both the federal and state governments. According to the Constitution, Congress can call the National Guard into federal service for three purposes: to enforce federal laws, to suppress insurrections, and to defend against invasions. State governors can call upon the National Guard for emergencies that are prescribed by state law.
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Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 12:36:54 PM
I see your point. So I looked it up, and there is a distinguishable difference in state and Federal militias, such as the NG.
The Fed and state have control over the NG, but the Founders also understood that the state may also have need of protecting it's own best interests which is why there has been no action regarding to private militia within the state.

Lets pray we never come to the point where the need for distinction is made due to a standoff over the legal status of a private militia.

A group of private citizens who train for military duty in order to be ready to defend their state or country in times of emergency. A militia is distinct from regular military forces, which are units of professional soldiers maintained both in war and peace by the federal government.

In the United States, as of the early 2000s, the National Guard serves as the nation's militia. Made up of volunteers, the National Guard acts under the dual authority of both the federal and state governments. According to the Constitution, Congress can call the National Guard into federal service for three purposes: to enforce federal laws, to suppress insurrections, and to defend against invasions. State governors can call upon the National Guard for emergencies that are prescribed by state law.

It seems a bit murky and contradictory. I'm guessing the feds would rather do away with all militias but know some states wouldn't be okay with that. So they have all of these laws that are sort of a gray area. Seems open to interpretation in a lot of ways. Weird that it isn't as cut and dry as it should be. As much as I poke this guy for his group of friends playing army or whatever, I actually think it may come to that someday. I hope not but pockets of resistance might be where we end up.

Dr. Meh

Quote from: walkstall on November 23, 2014, 12:21:09 PM

I for one don't care what you think about him.   IF he has some good points.  Then use them, if not then just move on.   This board is about "Survival Tips".  Remember some of us were not blown away by your "qualifications" when you started posting. :lol:

I don't care that you don't care that I don't care for this guy. Say that ten times fast. I never came on here and said "hey guys, I'm a therapist so ask me anything." I never tried to brag or point out any qualifications I may have. That's the difference here. Even the word "meh" means indifference. Frankly, I don't like it when clients call me doc or anything. I insist they use my first name. Doctor should be only for physicians. That's why I'm dr.meh. I'm indifferent to being called doctor and have been using that name online for years. It is you who decided to interpret it as bragging or whatever when you couldn't be farther from the truth. That's why I find it comical that you seem to want to keep bringing up a moot point that you established in your own head without knowing anything about me.

Solar

Quote from: Dr. Meh on November 23, 2014, 01:36:18 PM
It seems a bit murky and contradictory. I'm guessing the feds would rather do away with all militias but know some states wouldn't be okay with that. So they have all of these laws that are sort of a gray area. Seems open to interpretation in a lot of ways. Weird that it isn't as cut and dry as it should be. As much as I poke this guy for his group of friends playing army or whatever, I actually think it may come to that someday. I hope not but pockets of resistance might be where we end up.
God only knows. We're definitely not the country the Founders envisioned, though warned as possibility, which is why we have the Bill of Rights.....As long ass we can keep them.
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