Quote from: daidalos on February 05, 2015, 10:38:21 AM
I just do not get it.

Supply and demand, what the market will bare, and all that. 

I live next to the ocean and the price of fish here is outrageous.

Yeppers the cost of food has gone up. And we can thank, federal government regulations on Over the road truckers, as well as bird flue outbreaks and mad cow outbreaks for it.

Not to mention liberals throwing fits over cows farting in the field, releasing all that horrible dreaded methane gas.

(As if they didn't do that before)....No matter the industry, food is going up, thanks to fed gummamint regulation. Farms are being regulated to death, litterally.

And they're not eating that cost, no instead they pass it on to us, the consumer. This is why every last one of the global warming theory laws passed by the Congress should be repealed immediately.

And why as some candidates propose, any new "rules" these agencies come up with, should have to first be approved by the Congress before they can take effect as laws we the joe American must abide by.

Quote from: daidalos on April 24, 2015, 08:54:46 PM
Yeppers the cost of food has gone up. And we can thank, federal government regulations on Over the road truckers, as well as bird flue outbreaks and mad cow outbreaks for it.

Not to mention liberals throwing fits over cows farting in the field, releasing all that horrible dreaded methane gas.

(As if they didn't do that before)....No matter the industry, food is going up, thanks to fed gummamint regulation. Farms are being regulated to death, litterally.

And they're not eating that cost, no instead they pass it on to us, the consumer. This is why every last one of the global warming theory laws passed by the Congress should be repealed immediately.

And why as some candidates propose, any new "rules" these agencies come up with, should have to first be approved by the Congress before they can take effect as laws we the joe American must abide by.

Something I haven't seen yet... an in-depth, thorough accounting of the real cost of the Renewable Fuel Standard legislation -- ethanol in our gasoline. That government-driven nightmare has nearly wrecked the agricultural commodity markets and raised the price of almost everything we buy at the grocery store.

Quote from: TboneAgain on April 24, 2015, 09:35:35 PM
Something I haven't seen yet... an in-depth, thorough accounting of the real cost of the Renewable Fuel Standard legislation -- ethanol in our gasoline. That government-driven nightmare has nearly wrecked the agricultural commodity markets and raised the price of almost everything we buy at the grocery store.

A huge pet peeve of mine
I've read anywhere from 50% increase to 150% and more.

Quote from: Solar on April 25, 2015, 07:38:24 AM
A huge pet peeve of mine
I've read anywhere from 50% increase to 150% and more.

Here's a paradox for ya.... It's so damned stupid it's almost funny.

Sugar growers in the US (there are around 1,200 of them, most quite wealthy) have been subsidized and protected, mostly by tariffs, for over a hundred years. There are sugar growers mostly in Florida (sugar cane) and Minnesota (sugar beets). As a direct result of federal government policies, we pay roughly twice what neighboring countries pay for sugar. The difference is enough that it has literally forced companies like Mars to relocate candy factories (especially those that make stuff like LifeSavers, which are practically 100% sugar) to other countries. (It's true: LifeSavers are no longer made in the US, and haven't been since 1984.)

Another heavy user of cane or beet sugar used to be the soft drink industry. During the 1970s and 1980s, as corn-based sweeteners were developed, all the major brands switched from cane sugar to high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) as a cost-cutting measure. HFCS changes the flavor somewhat (most say for the worse), but it was gobs cheaper than refined sugar 35 years ago -- because of federal government policies that propped up sugar prices.

These days, we're treated to the spectacle of soda-pop makers getting suddenly sentimental about their old formulas, offering "real sugar" variants of their products as part of some sort of nostalgia kick. What has actually happened is that the cost of their sweetener of choice, HFCS, has more than doubled as a direct result of the Renewable Fuel Standard, and the accompanying (and predictable) skyrocketing price of corn.

So we have a battle between one idiotic and unconstitutional federal government initiative -- the artificial protection of an inflated price for sugar -- pitted against another idiotic and unconstitutional federal government initiative -- the artificial creation and protection of a market for ethanol made from corn.

The soda-pop companies don't know whether to shit or go blind, and I think it's funny as hell. But that's because I buy almost no sugar or soda-pop, or LifeSavers, for that matter. 

Quote from: TboneAgain on April 25, 2015, 01:08:23 PM
Here's a paradox for ya.... It's so damned stupid it's almost funny.

Sugar growers in the US (there are around 1,200 of them, most quite wealthy) have been subsidized and protected, mostly by tariffs, for over a hundred years. There are sugar growers mostly in Florida (sugar cane) and Minnesota (sugar beets). As a direct result of federal government policies, we pay roughly twice what neighboring countries pay for sugar. The difference is enough that it has literally forced companies like Mars to relocate candy factories (especially those that make stuff like LifeSavers, which are practically 100% sugar) to other countries. (It's true: LifeSavers are no longer made in the US, and haven't been since 1984.)

Another heavy user of cane or beet sugar used to be the soft drink industry. During the 1970s and 1980s, as corn-based sweeteners were developed, all the major brands switched from cane sugar to high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) as a cost-cutting measure. HFCS changes the flavor somewhat (most say for the worse), but it was gobs cheaper than refined sugar 35 years ago -- because of federal government policies that propped up sugar prices.

These days, we're treated to the spectacle of soda-pop makers getting suddenly sentimental about their old formulas, offering "real sugar" variants of their products as part of some sort of nostalgia kick. What has actually happened is that the cost of their sweetener of choice, HFCS, has more than doubled as a direct result of the Renewable Fuel Standard, and the accompanying (and predictable) skyrocketing price of corn.

So we have a battle between one idiotic and unconstitutional federal government initiative -- the artificial protection of an inflated price for sugar -- pitted against another idiotic and unconstitutional federal government initiative -- the artificial creation and protection of a market for ethanol made from corn.

The soda-pop companies don't know whether to shit or go blind, and I think it's funny as hell. But that's because I buy almost no sugar or soda-pop, or LifeSavers, for that matter. 

The common term for all the above is "law of unintended consequences".

Except I am questioning whether the consequences being felt are, in actuality, UN-intended?  Or one more aspect of a purposeful drive to eliminate middle class America in favor of the socialist (or is it feudal?) tyranny.