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Alternatives to America?
« on: February 04, 2013, 07:57:07 AM »
Looking around, I see a lot of unhappy people.  Some ready to fight, some succumbing to their peevish desires.  I have always been a man to plan, sometimes two or three of themm and this is one of my longer-standing questions.

1)  Would you leave America, and what would it take to get you to willingly leave.

2)  Where would you go?



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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 08:56:42 AM »
I'll stay and fight, period!
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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 03:53:19 PM »
Australia: Is currently under a red-green government, I lived there for a year under the conservatives John Howard. Australia has all the foundation needed for communist take over as well with its wellfare/socialist state. You got the same socialist entitled to wellfare mentality as you have in europe/US.

Europe: The EU is currently diveded between 3 factions, the Socialist-Communists, the Moderate-centrist-liberals and the right wing eu sceptic parties. It looks like the Communists are winning long term. In places like Hungary the EU is backing and trying to force the Hungarian people to accept the communist party back into power through economic sanctions. You see when you vote a right wing party into government the EU punishes the population with economic sanctions. So Europe is going to hell as well.

Latin America: CELAC Union is going to become the Communist equivalent of the EU. The only good thing about Latin America is that it has strong anti communist movement and resistance organizations already, such as Colombia. But when the communist gain total control of all government directorates I think all right wingers will be killed systematically by government forces.

Asia: Hard to emmigrate to Korea/Japan, you also got language difficulties. I dont really know much about Asia, the communists have great power in some countries, yet the tribal people seem to reject communism. Emmigrating there as an american/european seems crazy in any scenario though.

Africa: All governments are essentially communist. South Africa is turning more communist and there is genocide against both black african anti communists and all white descendents.

This is just my take on the question though, I don't really see any alternative except stay and fight in the US. If the conservatives/liberty fail in the US, the world is pretty much doomed to communism anyway.
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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 03:59:08 PM »
Australia: Is currently under a red-green government, I lived there for a year under the conservatives John Howard. Australia has all the foundation needed for communist take over as well with its wellfare/socialist state. You got the same socialist entitled to wellfare mentality as you have in europe/US.

Europe: The EU is currently diveded between 3 factions, the Socialist-Communists, the Moderate-centrist-liberals and the right wing eu sceptic parties. It looks like the Communists are winning long term. In places like Hungary the EU is backing and trying to force the Hungarian people to accept the communist party back into power through economic sanctions. You see when you vote a right wing party into government the EU punishes the population with economic sanctions. So Europe is going to hell as well.

Latin America: CELAC Union is going to become the Communist equivalent of the EU. The only good thing about Latin America is that it has strong anti communist movement and resistance organizations already, such as Colombia. But when the communist gain total control of all government directorates I think all right wingers will be killed systematically by government forces.

Asia: Hard to emmigrate to Korea/Japan, you also got language difficulties. I dont really know much about Asia, the communists have great power in some countries, yet the tribal people seem to reject communism. Emmigrating there as an american/european seems crazy in any scenario though.

Africa: All governments are essentially communist. South Africa is turning more communist and there is genocide against both black african anti communists and all white descendents.

This is just my take on the question though, I don't really see any alternative except stay and fight in the US. If the conservatives/liberty fail in the US, the world is pretty much doomed to communism anyway.
That's exactly how I see it.
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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 04:53:17 PM »
Well look at the powers.  If America was busy with olitical insurrection the other powers (some more than others) would annex half the world.  China has an eye on the pacific and Japan/Austrailia, and Russia has its former land to eyeball.

Korea would probably try something and Israel would lose temporary support of America.

Are there any countries that stand out as a worthy government?
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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 05:36:33 PM »
Well look at the powers.  If America was busy with olitical insurrection the other powers (some more than others) would annex half the world.  China has an eye on the pacific and Japan/Austrailia, and Russia has its former land to eyeball.

Korea would probably try something and Israel would lose temporary support of America.

Are there any countries that stand out as a worthy government?
Cayman islands, and I hear you can live dirt cheap in the Peruvian islands and no one bothers you.
That is, if you're as dirt poor as the rest of the inhabitants. :laugh:
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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 12:07:25 PM »
Are there any countries that stand out as a worthy government?
The only worthy government is self government. If anything really bad happens in the US I am prepared to go totally off the grid.

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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 02:40:30 PM »
The only worthy government is self government. If anything really bad happens in the US I am prepared to go totally off the grid.
I already am, cutting the cord is the best thing I ever did, in my lifetime.
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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2013, 02:44:43 PM »
I already am, cutting the cord is the best thing I ever did, in my lifetime.

Now if they would only do away with property tax.   :angry:
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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 03:12:22 PM »
Now if they would only do away with property tax.   :angry:
That's how I get away with falling under the Raw Land tax, I have no public utilities, so the land remains raw and is taxed at the lowest rate. :biggrin:
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Re: Alternatives to America?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 09:40:10 AM »
You have no public utilities  :rolleyes:

Please explain,

can you explain your answer more please,  maybe we can  incorporate some of your ideas so our land can remains raw and is taxed at the lowest rate too.

Yes, raw land is just that, if you want power, the county usually requires you to have a permanent dwelling, if you pull a permit for a house, your taxes will go up a lot, if you get just a phone line, no problem.
Some areas allow power to the property if you can get the fire district to sign off on it that it would be a benefit to them to have a water source, but now you have the issue of pulling a permit for a well, which in some counties is viewed just like power, an improvement, and are taxed accordingly.

I used to drill wells, there are a lot of drillers that will punch you a well without a permit, this is to your best interest, the county won't come snooping around.

How I did it, was I bought raw land, parked my motor home on it while I built my home by myself, labor can leave a paper trail, do it yourself, or buy a kit home, or a used double wide, just don't pull permits for anything.

The worst they will do is make you pay a few years in back taxes, just make sure whatever you do, you always follow code, because they may look for an excuse to condemn your home out of spite.
Also look around the area for homes that aren't up to code in the least, this is a sign the county is lax and probably won't bother you, but if your neighbors spent millions on their place, they definitely won't appreciate your individualism and probably turn you into the county.

Propane is what most rural areas use, buy your own tank, the bigger the better, 500 gallons minimum, if you have one of the suppliers install it and the lines, they won't ask any questions about permits, once established, you can buy propane from any source you wish.

Solar, wind, hydro are all things to consider, if you have specific questions, just ask.
I've been on solar for more than two decades, it costs a lot to go that route, but it's well worth it.
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