McGregor vs Mayweather - August 26th

Started by taxed, July 12, 2017, 09:35:46 PM

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I'm looking forward to it.  PPV is $100.  Here's a good boxing vs MMA breakdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4KiqD29Awk
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This was a great fight.  Ref stopped the fight in the 10th round for Mayweather.  In the end:

1 - Many of the boxing "experts" said not only would McGregor not win a round, he wouldn't touch Mayweather.  I didn't catch the official ruling, but McGregor safely won 5 rounds.  Not bad for the guy who was 0-0 in pro boxing versus the greatest ever.  Like in politics, the "experts" and main-stream sports media doesn't know shit.

2 - The guys who knew MMA and boxing, like Brendan Schaub, had it right -- it would take 4-6 rounds for Mayweather to figure out McGregor's style.  If McGregor didn't KO him by then, then his fatigue would become a factor with Mayweather's experience and boxing IQ.  That's exactly what happened.

3 - The ref stopped it a little early.  At least let McGregor hit the canvas.  He's been tagged worse than that in the Diaz fight and still won.  It can be argued, but us MMA fans would have rather seen McGregor go out on his shield.

I feel like I got my $100 worth.  The fight was intense from start to finish.  No complaints.
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OK, that was Mayweather's home turf/arena, now how about they play in McGregor's sand box, MMA style?

There just isn't comparing these two venues, like comparing a match to a cutting torch, sure, they both burn, but one is in another league all its own.
Time to switch venues...
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Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2017, 07:22:52 AM
OK, that was Mayweather's home turf/arena, now how about they play in McGregor's sand box, MMA style?

There just isn't comparing these two venues, like comparing a match to a cutting torch, sure, they both burn, but one is in another league all its own.
Time to switch venues...

I'd love that, but Mayweather ain't that stupid.  I really, really want to like Mayweather, but I just can't get past him beating women -- even one time in front of his kids.  Just horrible.  It's a shame because what he did in the boxing business and take control of his own promotion should be analyzed and studied in business schools.  Such a brilliant guy but did such horrible things.

Regarding boxing in MMA, they tried that with James Toney vs Randy Couture... didn't go well for the boxer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI

This was James Toney on a show with Bas Rutten before that fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbAxheqajKg
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Quote from: taxed on August 27, 2017, 03:59:49 PM
I'd love that, but Mayweather ain't that stupid.  I really, really want to like Mayweather, but I just can't get past him beating women -- even one time in front of his kids.  Just horrible.  It's a shame because what he did in the boxing business and take control of his own promotion should be analyzed and studied in business schools.  Such a brilliant guy but did such horrible things.

Regarding boxing in MMA, they tried that with James Toney vs Randy Couture... didn't go well for the boxer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIYYd-v8jI

This was James Toney on a show with Bas Rutten before that fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbAxheqajKg
Yeah, I saw it, kinda felt sorry for the guy, like throwing a cripple in a pit with a hungry lion, didn't have a chance.
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Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2017, 04:13:26 PM
Yeah, I saw it, kinda felt sorry for the guy, like throwing a cripple in a pit with a hungry lion, didn't have a chance.

...and it still didn't shut him up.  In my book, once a guy mounts you and chokes your lights out, you should acknowledge that maybe he is the better fighter.

One of my favorites is Royce Gracie, who really brought the ground game to fighting and debunked all the Kung Fu crap and other fake martial arts.  He was at the UFC in the beginning and was submitting monsters left and right when nobody was really thinking about ground games, aside from wrestlers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVov2TEYJ8k

Here's one of my favorites... he'd go to these different martial arts places and challenge the instructors and just murk them... he's like a boa constrictor... here he embarasses a Kung Fu master:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd1KDz1X7iE

Now everyone has to be disciplined on the ground, standing up, using wrestling to take down, defending takedowns... it's a science of mixtures from various disciplines and defenses...  I'm really into the strategy of MMA where you just have no room for error.
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Here's an old clip where Rogan totally destroys some close-minded boxing head on ESPN over MMA vs boxing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJW0KMzsWDI
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Quote from: taxed on August 27, 2017, 05:25:27 PM
Here's an old clip where Rogan totally destroys some close-minded boxing head on ESPN over MMA vs boxing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJW0KMzsWDI
That's the thing, original boxing with Queensberry rules was in its day, quite the show, guys going toe to toe without gloves.
But truth is, in a street fight, rules go out the window and that's why MMA is the truest form of competition.
I wrestled in high school, learned Taekwondo in Korea from a master who didn't believe in colored belts, said getting a black belt from a bad instructor gets people killed because they think they're bad asses till some real master kicks their ass.

I used it many times during my days as a body guard, private security, but that was back when punks didn't pack weapons.
Now that I'm old, pepper spray is the first thing I use, then find a big ass club and beat the crap out of them, and feel like I got run over by a truck the next day because I so out of shape. :lol:
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Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2017, 06:20:09 PM
That's the thing, original boxing with Queensberry rules was in its day, quite the show, guys going toe to toe without gloves.
But truth is, in a street fight, rules go out the window and that's why MMA is the truest form of competition.
I wrestled in high school, learned Taekwondo in Korea from a master who didn't believe in colored belts, said getting a black belt from a bad instructor gets people killed because they think they're bad asses till some real master kicks their ass.
That is so true... taekwondo you have all sorts of kicks and spinning shit... wrestling you completely control the fight and where it goes... those are legit disciplines that can fuck someone up.

Rogan, speaking of, was a Taekwondo competitor for years.. check out these kicks...  I'd feel these in the morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWC6x4Qqwe4


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I used it many times during my days as a body guard, private security, but that was back when punks didn't pack weapons.
Now that I'm old, pepper spray is the first thing I use, then find a big ass club and beat the crap out of them, and feel like I got run over by a truck the next day because I so out of shape. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember a few years ago I started slapboxing and rolling around on the grass doing some light Jiu Jitsu with one of my old friends after drinking... but I was done in about 60 seconds and the next day I felt like Chuck Liddell beat my ass...  I am so over fighting.  If some life or death shit happens, I probably have one good leg kick and that's it... I know I'd break my leg or blow out my knee or something.  If I don't stop someone with that, then they got me.  I really should get back into the gym and start hitting some bags just to lose a few pounds.
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Quote from: taxed on August 27, 2017, 06:48:13 PM
That is so true... taekwondo you have all sorts of kicks and spinning shit... wrestling you completely control the fight and where it goes... those are legit disciplines that can fuck someone up.

Rogan, speaking of, was a Taekwondo competitor for years.. check out these kicks...  I'd feel these in the morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWC6x4Qqwe4


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember a few years ago I started slapboxing and rolling around on the grass doing some light Jiu Jitsu with one of my old friends after drinking... but I was done in about 60 seconds and the next day I felt like Chuck Liddell beat my ass...  I am so over fighting.  If some life or death shit happens, I probably have one good leg kick and that's it... I know I'd break my leg or blow out my knee or something.  If I don't stop someone with that, then they got me.  I really should get back into the gym and start hitting some bags just to lose a few pounds.
Yeah, I'd pack, but my aim isn't what it used to be either, so pepper spray and a 100 thousand volt stun tool should really ruin their day.
I have one in flashlight and another cane style, both will put anyone flat out on their ass, while I empty the can on their crotch, that shit burns for hours.

Yes officer, he'll be easy to spot, he'll be the guy crying his ass off like a baby and running with his pants around his ankles.

I had a can of Mace break in its holster while working one night, my ass kept getting hotter and hotter, finally, I called in that I was on a 10, drove 20 miles to find water, finally got my as hosed off, the next day all the skin on my right cheek sluffed off, like a lizard shedding its skin.
That shit is caustic as Hell. :lol:
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Interesting stat... McGregor landed more punches than Pacquiao...



Not bad for someone predicted by, say, boxing "expert" Max Kellerman to not land a single punch:

http://thebiglead.com/2017/06/15/max-kellerman-conor-mcgregor-will-not-land-a-single-punch-on-floyd-mayweather/
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