What if technology went too far?

Started by Balto, January 25, 2013, 08:47:40 PM

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Balto

Technological change is inevitable, I get that. Its ending the CD format, its ending what we know as laptops slowly, and thanks to Google, is on the verge of ending human driving.

Lets think for a minute. What if technology began ruling our lives? Began taking away everything we liked and replaced it with what was supposed to be more convienient but only became more complex? I am scared the robot driving will become a reality. Its been reported about in Motor Trend and more and more people are agreeing it would be a better thing. But just like liberty, the genuine feeling of getting behind the wheel cannot be replaced by microchips and programming.

What you saw on the Jetsons was meant to stay on the Jetsons.
So will technology go overboard trying to please us and will it become more of a enemy and less of a ally?

kramarat

Technology is sort of like guns. It can be used responsibly, or abused.

Aside from my computer, I pretty much stay out of the loop. I also drive older cars, and would be fine with manual roll up windows.

I worry about what our government will end up doing with technology, if they aren't already using it for nefarious purposes.

I think our biggest concern should be; as technology gets smarter, people get dumber and more dependent. It would be wise for people not to forget how to do things without all of the gadgetry, although it's probably already too late for that.

If and when one of these occurs, it will throw the entire planet into, (electronic), blindness and chaos, including governments. It won't be pretty.

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Quote from: kramarat on January 26, 2013, 05:51:45 AM
I think our biggest concern should be; as technology gets smarter, people get dumber and more dependent. It would be wise for people not to forget how to do things without all of the gadgetry, although it's probably already too late for that.

Certainly true for a bulk of the population.  I wonder if there is a group that goes the other way?  The people creating and maintaining the ever more complex tech?  Will it lead to a wide societal gap in ability?

Or does increased productivity give people more and more free time to keep up?


Balto

Quote from: kramarat on January 26, 2013, 05:51:45 AM
Technology is sort of like guns. It can be used responsibly, or abused.

Aside from my computer, I pretty much stay out of the loop. I also drive older cars, and would be fine with manual roll up windows.

I worry about what our government will end up doing with technology, if they aren't already using it for nefarious purposes.

I think our biggest concern should be; as technology gets smarter, people get dumber and more dependent. It would be wise for people not to forget how to do things without all of the gadgetry, although it's probably already too late for that.

If and when one of these occurs, it will throw the entire planet into, (electronic), blindness and chaos, including governments. It won't be pretty.

http://www.slashgear.com/scientists-warn-massive-solar-flare-could-harm-power-grid-and-satellites-06241821/
Well lets think, in vehicles cars already come with options to parallel park themselves and can detect blind spots themselves, two important things people once had to know and do (and should continue to do). But people becoming two dependent on technology is becoming more and more of a reality.

Solar

Quote from: Balto on January 26, 2013, 10:47:50 AM
Well lets think, in vehicles cars already come with options to parallel park themselves and can detect blind spots themselves, two important things people once had to know and do (and should continue to do). But people becoming two dependent on technology is becoming more and more of a reality.
Now consider a massive solar flare and people completely dependent  upon the car driving itself. :lol:

Yes I laugh, though the car probably wouldn't start after such an event anyway, but the point is, the further we move away from our ancestral roots, the more vulnerable we become as a species.
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Quote from: mhughes on January 26, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
Certainly true for a bulk of the population.  I wonder if there is a group that goes the other way?  The people creating and maintaining the ever more complex tech?  Will it lead to a wide societal gap in ability?

Or does increased productivity give people more and more free time to keep up?


Interesting, I find increased productivity give people more money for there dollar.   Free time you have to make for yourself.  Even after being retired for 10 years I find I have to make some free time.
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kramarat

Quote from: mhughes on January 26, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
Certainly true for a bulk of the population.  I wonder if there is a group that goes the other way?  The people creating and maintaining the ever more complex tech?  Will it lead to a wide societal gap in ability?

Or does increased productivity give people more and more free time to keep up?

As far as technology goes, I'm still in the dark ages. I just don't have much interest in the latest and greatest stuff.

Heat my house with wood, work on my own cars, have an old tube TV.............

Call it a gut feeling, but I intentionally don't want to become too dependent on technology.

I think there already is a gap in ability, but I also think that the people that know how to do things without electronic help, have the advantage. I get laughed at because I don't text and have a cheapo 10 year old basic cell phone. We'll see who's laughing if the lights ever go out. :wink:

I'm not in full blown survivalist mode or anything, but I think I would fare better than a lot of people I see. The ones that are tethered to their gadgets.

mhughes

You just reminded me of the guy who called in sick to work yesterday because his garage door froze, wouldn't open and he had to call someone to fix it.

Solar

Quote from: mhughes on January 26, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
You just reminded me of the guy who called in sick to work yesterday because his garage door froze, wouldn't open and he had to call someone to fix it.
I won't be able to make it to work, the power just went out and I'm stuck on the escalator.
God I hope the fire fighters get here soon or I'll miss takeout from the local diner, they close at 6:00, I might starve.

Wussies, that's what city life does to people, takes away self reliance.
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Quote from: mhughes on January 26, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
You just reminded me of the guy who called in sick to work yesterday because his garage door froze, wouldn't open and he had to call someone to fix it.


I had a young man call me and say he would not be into work as his dog had eaten his keys.   I ask if the dog had eaten both sets?  He said yes!   LOL 
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Balto

As a musician I find it sad technology is taking the studios away from us musicians as well as CDs since those were once a great source of revenue other than touring. If I could go back in time and tell people to oppose these download services such as amazon mp3, napster and itunes at all costs, CDs could still be strong today although I hear rumors vinyls may come back.

The Chevy Spark si a example of how CDs are going in the way of the dinoseurs. It doesnt have a CD player, and only streams music from a sd card or mp3 player. While I'm one for auxilary, I dont want manufactuers to get rid of CD players. They think Pandora and Sirius (although I like Sirius) is what will suffice consumers pfft.

kramarat

Quote from: Balto on January 26, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
As a musician I find it sad technology is taking the studios away from us musicians as well as CDs since those were once a great source of revenue other than touring. If I could go back in time and tell people to oppose these download services such as amazon mp3, napster and itunes at all costs, CDs could still be strong today although I hear rumors vinyls may come back.

The Chevy Spark si a example of how CDs are going in the way of the dinoseurs. It doesnt have a CD player, and only streams music from a sd card or mp3 player. While I'm one for auxilary, I dont want manufactuers to get rid of CD players. They think Pandora and Sirius (although I like Sirius) is what will suffice consumers pfft.

I love CD's. You bring up a good point.

I've got photo albums that were passed down to me. My parent's wedding, us as kids, family vacations........you name it.

Now I have 3000 pics on my computer that I never look at. :sad:

walkstall

A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

kramarat

Quote from: walkstall on January 26, 2013, 10:26:10 PM
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Wow!!! That's very cool and very damned scary at the same time. :ohmy: