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Universal Laws
« on: August 01, 2019, 05:37:58 AM »
This reminds me of my own universal laws, my sister once told me they made her think about certain topics in a more open manner, especially the idea that we see things not as they are, but how we are. Enjoy, these are good.

'Universal Laws of the World' 

https://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/laws/


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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2019, 07:51:24 AM »
Good stuff, though I don't agree with some, I did find a few interesting points.
This one stood out when it literally exposed a lazy society where people need to "Feel" as if they matter. Enter the SJW and their need to attack a working culture.
Most normal people come with their own stressers, so they don't need an outside source attacking their already working life and disrupting what works for them.



8. Sayre’s law: In a dispute, emotions are inversely related to what’s at stake.

In 1973 the Wall Street Journal wrote:

Academics love to lay down laws. One of the more famous is attributed to the late Wallace Sayre of Columbia University. Sayre’s Third Law of Politics—no one seems to know the first two, or whether there even were a first two–holds that “academic politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low.”

As far as I can tell no one quotes Sayre saying the line himself. But like many smart sayings it found a deceased owner and never let go.

The logic might go something like this:

When the stakes are actually high people within a culture have a pretty good track record of putting more of their differences aside for a common cause. You bicker when there’s little downside to doing so.

The part of your brain whose bandwidth deals with threats doesn’t like to stay still. There’s a baseline level of stress people need in their lives to keep their minds alert, and if they don’t get it from legitimate sources they’ll find something meaningless to fret about. Many of you know a trust-funder who validates this theory.
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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2019, 06:40:28 AM »
The part of your brain whose bandwidth deals with threats doesn’t like to stay still. There’s a baseline level of stress people need in their lives to keep their minds alert, and if they don’t get it from legitimate sources they’ll find something meaningless to fret about. Many of you know a trust-funder who validates this theory.

Oh shit....no wonder I still think Elvis and Tupac is still alive.
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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2019, 06:47:53 AM »
Oh shit....no wonder I still think Elvis and Tupac is still alive.
If you think about it, my post completely describes why MAGA has been so successful and why we are winning and will win.
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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2019, 03:30:32 AM »
Interesting, good to see the thread is still being read.

But regarding law eight,  I have to disagree with the WSJ as academic arguments are important. For instance the debate over the liberal arts and philosophy versus the more practical sciences such as STEM. A well rounded human knows more than math, they need also to know life and the social sciences help there. As does reading fiction and societal analysis. When I started my working career the field I finally worked in didn't even exist - computer science. My degree in liberal arts and social science helped a great deal in developing and eventually managing groups and projects.

'Is STEM all it’s cracked up to be?'

https://medium.com/where-is-the-future-of-education/is-stem-all-its-cracked-up-to-be-8e9bc7a7d898

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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2019, 05:41:39 AM »
Interesting, good to see the thread is still being read.

But regarding law eight,  I have to disagree with the WSJ as academic arguments are important. For instance the debate over the liberal arts and philosophy versus the more practical sciences such as STEM. A well rounded human knows more than math, they need also to know life and the social sciences help there. As does reading fiction and societal analysis. When I started my working career the field I finally worked in didn't even exist - computer science. My degree in liberal arts and social science helped a great deal in developing and eventually managing groups and projects.

'Is STEM all it’s cracked up to be?'

https://medium.com/where-is-the-future-of-education/is-stem-all-its-cracked-up-to-be-8e9bc7a7d898

STEM has taken on two forms in my time. In High School, it was pitched to me as the future, with most every teacher worth their salt trying to convince as many students to peruse STEM as their career option. Now, from what I have been reading, and what I see in higher education, is that STEM is criticized by leftists elites for its limitations regarding the acceptance of women. Just the other week, one of my professors ranted for a good fifteen minutes about how STEM is sexist because of its low initiatives for women to join.

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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2019, 07:06:30 AM »
Interesting, good to see the thread is still being read.

But regarding law eight,  I have to disagree with the WSJ as academic arguments are important. For instance the debate over the liberal arts and philosophy versus the more practical sciences such as STEM. A well rounded human knows more than math, they need also to know life and the social sciences help there. As does reading fiction and societal analysis. When I started my working career the field I finally worked in didn't even exist - computer science. My degree in liberal arts and social science helped a great deal in developing and eventually managing groups and projects.

'Is STEM all it’s cracked up to be?'

https://medium.com/where-is-the-future-of-education/is-stem-all-its-cracked-up-to-be-8e9bc7a7d898
Completely worthless! Get out and experience life. You could spend a lifetime in class and never learn a damn thing until you get out and experience it for yourself.
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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2019, 08:43:16 AM »
Completely worthless! Get out and experience life. You could spend a lifetime in class and never learn a damn thing until you get out and experience it for yourself.


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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2019, 09:02:56 AM »

The school of hard knocks will teach you more than liberal arts and philosophy in your life time.
Exactly! And the sooner one starts lifes journey the better. Army made me grow up over night, seeing the world gives one a perspective no freakin class could ever accomplish.
The world is racist and bigoted interspersed with wonderful people, no class could ever expose you to the realities of life.
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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2019, 11:19:28 AM »
While I kinda agree that education isn't the real world it can help you see the real world and certainly help prepare you for it. One of the things that has changed in corporate America since the deaths or break-ups of the behemoths is the training inside the corporations. Once an employee in ATT for instance, started at a level and was trained and tested before moving up. Unions strong then acknowledged the procedures and played their part. For some shop was the way up, learning a more mechanical skill helped and I imagine even today helps. But automation and outsourcing have surely changed that world. So then what to do. All the people I know who do very well are in information sciences, financial institutions, or lawyers. Military service too is way out and up the ladder. And the school of hard knocks is philosophy too, one learns there.  Is there a universal law here? Hmm... 

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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2019, 07:24:23 PM »
STEM has taken on two forms in my time. In High School, it was pitched to me as the future, with most every teacher worth their salt trying to convince as many students to peruse STEM as their career option. Now, from what I have been reading, and what I see in higher education, is that STEM is criticized by leftists elites for its limitations regarding the acceptance of women. Just the other week, one of my professors ranted for a good fifteen minutes about how STEM is sexist because of its low initiatives for women to join.

You are so right.  What's REALLY fucking stupid is everything you need to teach and educate yourself in, say, software development, systems administration, network engineering, etc., IS FUCKING FREE and available to anyone who can make words by hitting keys on a keyboard.

God these people are beyond stupid.  I did this article a few months ago:

https://conservativehardliner.com/social-justice-warriors-may-not-2019-stack-overflow-developer-survey

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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2019, 08:32:04 PM »
You are so right.  What's REALLY fucking stupid is everything you need to teach and educate yourself in, say, software development, systems administration, network engineering, etc., IS FUCKING FREE and available to anyone who can make words by hitting keys on a keyboard.

God these people are beyond stupid.  I did this article a few months ago:

https://conservativehardliner.com/social-justice-warriors-may-not-2019-stack-overflow-developer-survey

Good point. I could give myself a masters level education in programming for little to no cost. This is one of those situations that your not really paying for the education your paying to use the name of the school you went to. Better the school, better your chance of hire. Yet, if we could somehow promote these free courses on it, we may save a lot of bright minded people from falling for the leftist indoctrination by skipping the joke of higher education all together.

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Re: Universal Laws
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2019, 11:38:00 PM »
This reminds me of my own universal laws, my sister once told me they made her think about certain topics in a more open manner, especially the idea that we see things not as they are, but how we are. Enjoy, these are good.

'Universal Laws of the World' 

https://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/laws/


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I didn't read the article yet but I just wanted to say right up front that calling human needs and behavior a sort of a "law" is misleading and puts a bad connotation on something fundamental about being human. A "law" is a decree put into action with physical force. Things that all humans agree upon such as "you shouldn't wrong others and be honest" isn't a "law", its a fundamental truth about all people. Nearly everyone without a mental disorder would agree that they wouldn't like to be wronged. No law enforcement required to arrive at that.
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