Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 08:23:08 PM
The scientific community seems to think it's a bigger deal than you do.  Maybe it's because you have absolutely no context or measuring stick to conclude that 1.5 degrees is "small", aside from your own gut feeling?

No, not at all.   I totally feel it.  For example, here in Georgia, it's 31 degrees right now.  It totally should be 30 degrees, or even 29.5 degrees.  I can really feel the difference.

You are making a great case here.

Quote from: taxed on November 24, 2013, 08:28:01 PM
No, not at all.   I totally feel it.  For example, here in Georgia, it's 31 degrees right now.  It totally should be 30 degrees, or even 29.5 degrees.  I can really feel the difference.

You are making a great case here.

I already presented to you in that other thread a series of peer reviewed articles detailing the effects of such a rate of temperature change, but apparently you couldn't understand any of it.

You sound just as ignorant and foaming-at-the-mouth as a retard who thinks that NASA shouldn't worry about a 1 degree trajectory error in the mars rover.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
I already presented to you in that other thread a series of peer reviewed articles detailing the effects of such a rate of temperature change, but apparently you couldn't understand any of it.

You sound just as ignorant and foaming-at-the-mouth as a retard who thinks that NASA shouldn't worry about a 1 degree trajectory error in the mars rover.

The trajectory for the rover was man made.  Try again.  I know you need to cling on to something that is far different than the scope of what you're trying to argue, but let's try to keep apples to apples here.

Holy...

Quote from: taxed on November 24, 2013, 08:35:17 PM
The trajectory for the rover was man made.

You know taxed, when you don't know jack shit about a subject, the proper tone to go forward with is one of humility and a willingness to learn.  Why don't you actually do some legitimate research in this subject, instead of pretending you know about a highly complicated scientific field that actual practitioners need tens of thousands of hours to become experts in?

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 08:37:57 PM
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You know taxed, when you don't know jack shit about a subject, the proper tone to go forward with is one of humility and a willingness to learn.  Why don't you actually do some legitimate research in this subject, instead of pretending you know about a highly complicated scientific field that actual practitioners need tens of thousands of hours to become experts in?

Nice try, SciFi, but man actually sent the rover to Mars, and calculated how it would get there.

Keep trying.....  it's adorable...

Quote from: taxed on November 24, 2013, 08:51:24 PM
Nice try, SciFi, but man actually sent the rover to Mars, and calculated how it would get there.

No shit, sherlock.  That's not the point my analogy was making.  Do you have any understanding of the subject matter?

You're ignorant and so you should be humble.  Just how much research did you do on any of this before you threw your lot in with whatever was most politically convenient?  Do you honestly think you know more than the dozens of scientific institutions I had listed in the OP?

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 08:53:59 PM
No shit, sherlock.  That's not the point my analogy was making.  Do you have any understanding of the subject matter?

No, sweetheart.  You faceplantted yourself.  I said the calculations for the rover were man-made.  Don't try to walk it back now.

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You're ignorant and so you should be humble.  Just how much research did you do on any of this before you threw your lot in with whatever was most politically convenient?  Do you honestly think you know more than the dozens of scientific institutions I had listed in the OP?

I know, I should be scared to death of 1.54 degrees over a century.  Help me get scared like you.  Give me something that will make me scared.

Quote from: taxed on November 24, 2013, 08:56:01 PM
No, sweetheart.  You faceplantted yourself.  I said the calculations for the rover were man-made.  Don't try to walk it back now.

Show me where I deny that the mars rover calculations were manmade.   

You're so proud of your business experience.  Go ahead and take a haughty tone when I come to you for advice for starting a company.  But you know jack shit about climate science and should take a tone of willingness to learn, not of caricatured arrogance over what?

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I know, I should be scared to death of 1.54 degrees over a century.  Help me get scared like you.  Give me something that will make me scared.

Nobel laureates and various scientific professionals seem to think this is a big deal.  Do you know more about it than them?

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 08:58:33 PM
Show me where I deny that the mars rover calculations were manmade.   

You're so proud of your business experience.  Go ahead and take a haughty tone when I come to you for advice for starting a company.  But you know jack shit about climate science and should take a tone of willingness to learn, not of caricatured arrogance over what?

I know, I should be burning up right now.  I'm just not.  I guess it's because it's in the 30s here in GA.

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Nobel laureates and various scientific professionals seem to think this is a big deal.  Do you know more about it than them?

Wow!  I'm getting hotter by the minute!  You are brilliant!

Quote from: taxed on November 24, 2013, 09:00:21 PM
I know, I should be burning up right now.  I'm just not.  I guess it's because it's in the 30s here in GA.

Wow!  I'm getting hotter by the minute!  You are brilliant!

It's always a joy watching conservatives trying to be funny.  You guys really are better at it when you don't try.

Nothing you have presented uses any evidence.  You have no evidence, you have no scientific background and no logical analysis, you have your intuition, your gut and your insistence that the laws of physics bend to your ideological convenience.  Yes, dear, I'm sorry that global temperatures are rising, and that to curb this we will have to impose government regulations and maybe even cut back on some business's profits.  Guess what?  Mother nature couldn't give a lesser quantity of shit.  Physics is a cold, heartless bitch.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 09:03:07 PM
It's always a joy watching conservatives trying to be funny.  You guys really are better at it when you don't try.

Nothing you have presented uses any evidence.  You have no evidence, you have no scientific background and no logical analysis, you have your intuition, your gut and your insistence that the laws of physics bend to your ideological convenience.  Yes, dear, I'm sorry that global temperatures are rising, and that to curb this we will have to impose government regulations and maybe even cut back on some business's profits.  Guess what?  Mother nature couldn't give a lesser quantity of shit.  Physics is a cold, heartless bitch.

You're right.  I have not presented any evidence that I should be burning up right now.

Great job!

Quote from: taxed on November 24, 2013, 09:11:29 PM
You're right.  I have not presented any evidence that I should be burning up right now.

Strawman.  Who said you should be burning up by now?  Who said the world is going to end?  Why the false dilemma between "humanity ending" and "no problem"?

Here's just one of literally thousands of studies that you probably do not even understand;


http://ulmo.ucmerced.edu/pdffiles/08JGR_Spracklenetal_submitted.pdf

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 09:12:57 PM
Strawman.  Who said you should be burning up by now? Who said the world is going to end?  Why the false dilemma between "humanity ending" and "no problem"?

Here's just one of literally thousands of studies that you probably do not even understand;


http://ulmo.ucmerced.edu/pdffiles/08JGR_Spracklenetal_submitted.pdf

Oh.  Then what are we supposed to be scared about again?

Quote from: taxed on November 24, 2013, 09:16:36 PM
Oh.  Then what are we supposed to be scared about again?

Let me get this straight; you should only worry about something that will immediately burn you up?  There is no middle ground?

You know, realistic effects I have supported with peer reviewed studies you have brushed aside without any grounds or analysis? 

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 24, 2013, 09:31:46 PM
Let me get this straight; you should only worry about something that will immediately burn you up?  There is no middle ground?

You know, realistic effects I have supported with peer reviewed studies you have brushed aside without any grounds or analysis?

I know, you keep bringing up what others say I should think.  I guess I do my own.