Quote from: taxed on February 28, 2021, 04:59:47 PM
True, but that's OK because nobody is going to shut down the backbone if some of us are going to conservative sites...  also, I'd think Starlink will have its own internet. Instead of now where you go to http://, maybe we'll go to sites like starlink://....

Lots of possibilities...

Yep, I have a feeling Musk is way ahead of the big IP bandits.

UNLESS.... Musk is going to create an entirely new IP network, backward compatible with what we got, and new to allow station to station coms completely separate from the existing IP backbone....

How's it gonna work when AT&T, Verizon & Lumen block his IP addresses?  I hope he's built in a system for direct earth-sat-earth, end user - direct coms to the earth based server, type of system.  If that happens, the bandwidth potential would be tremendous, and I can only imagine how desperate the Marxists, Socialists & Liberals would be to REGULATE his new network. 

Just imagine NSA, CIA going crazy over communications they're locked out of.

Quote from: Hoofer on March 06, 2021, 07:52:56 AM
UNLESS.... Musk is going to create an entirely new IP network, backward compatible with what we got, and new to allow station to station coms completely separate from the existing IP backbone....

How's it gonna work when AT&T, Verizon & Lumen block his IP addresses?  I hope he's built in a system for direct earth-sat-earth, end user - direct coms to the earth based server, type of system.  If that happens, the bandwidth potential would be tremendous, and I can only imagine how desperate the Marxists, Socialists & Liberals would be to REGULATE his new network. 

Just imagine NSA, CIA going crazy over communications they're locked out of.

I've no doubt that's in the works. The left can't do anything, he has FCC approval, so this buys him plenty of time, besides, it's global, not just US based.

Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2021, 07:56:16 AM
I've no doubt that's in the works. The left can't do anything, he has FCC approval, so this buys him plenty of time, besides, it's global, not just US based.

China is on the 3rd generation GPS system, no global, and probably collecting *everything* on every person & movement, whether they're using that system or not.

"In 2015, China launched the third generation BeiDou system (BeiDou-3) for global coverage. The first BDS-3 satellite was launched on 30 March 2015.[6] On 27 December 2018, BeiDou Navigation Satellite System started providing global services.[7][8] The 35th and the final satellite of BDS-3 was launched into orbit on 23 June 2020.[9] It was said in 2016 that BeiDou-3 will reach millimeter-level accuracy (with post-processing).[10]"

Millimeter-level accuracy.... My understanding, they're 2-way communications, unlike ours - but still compatible with our system.  That with the ultra-high resolution, continual scanning of the earth - there is no privacy anymore.

Musk could be a huge interrupter to all the Deep Surveillance being done on us.

Update:
Starlink was unaffected by snow, or the thunder cells passing overhead. Had a foot at 1:00 AM and the dish was clear, it actually melted the snow as it fell.

Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2021, 10:14:23 AM
Update:
Starlink was unaffected by snow, or the thunder cells passing overhead. Had a foot at 1:00 AM and the dish was clear, it actually melted the snow as it fell.

  That's good to know.  We haven't had much snow this year, but usually I have to clean the Dish off after a good storm.

I'm expecting my Starlink equipment Friday.  I ordered on 9 Feb, so it took a month from ordering to shipping.

Quote from: Woofr on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
  That's good to know.  We haven't had much snow this year, but usually I have to clean the Dish off after a good storm.

I'm expecting my Starlink equipment Friday.  I ordered on 9 Feb, so it took a month from ordering to shipping.

You're going to love it!

Quote from: Woofr on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
  That's good to know.  We haven't had much snow this year, but usually I have to clean the Dish off after a good storm.

I'm expecting my Starlink equipment Friday.  I ordered on 9 Feb, so it took a month from ordering to shipping.

I just tried to stream a movie, not bad, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2021, 03:24:06 PM
I just tried to stream a movie, not bad, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Quote from: Woofr on March 10, 2021, 03:25:31 PM

I should say "YET", they say by mid summer we should have enough satellites up to make it feasible.

Quote from: Woofr on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
  That's good to know.  We haven't had much snow this year, but usually I have to clean the Dish off after a good storm.

I'm expecting my Starlink equipment Friday.  I ordered on 9 Feb, so it took a month from ordering to shipping.

If you get a lot of snow like I do you might want to put heaters on your dishes. A heater keeps my TV realatively clear. The heating elelements stick on and are powered with a low voltage transformer and a thermostatic switch that is part of the heating element. It works well unless it snows so much the dish is completely buried as happened last winter.

Quote from: dickfoster on March 10, 2021, 04:22:02 PM
If you get a lot of snow like I do you might want to put heaters on your dishes. A heater keeps my TV realatively clear. The heating elelements stick on and are powered with a low voltage transformer and a thermostatic switch that is part of the heating element. It works well unless it snows so much the dish is completely buried as happened last winter.

The Starlink dish is a heater, the over 1000 mini antennas generate heat on their own. Also it can cut right through a couple inches of snow as if it's not even there.

Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2021, 05:35:44 PM
The Starlink dish is a heater, the over 1000 mini antennas generate heat on their own. Also it can cut right through a couple inches of snow as if it's not even there.

Trouble is Starlink isn't quite rolled out or avaliable yet.

Quote from: dickfoster on March 11, 2021, 08:32:26 AM
Trouble is Starlink isn't quite rolled out or avaliable yet.

Works great for me. As I said earlier, it's not good for streaming videos quite yet, but depending on the video source, I can load a full 20 minute video in less than 5 seconds.
Streaming sucks because the source limits the amount you're allowed to buffer, otherwise I could load the entire thing in no time.

Quote from: Solar on March 11, 2021, 09:03:27 AM
Works great for me. As I said earlier, it's not good for streaming videos quite yet, but depending on the video source, I can load a full 20 minute video in less than 5 seconds.
Streaming sucks because the source limits the amount you're allowed to buffer, otherwise I could load the entire thing in no time.

Please run a speed test, screen shot it, so we can see it.  a couple of them would be somewhat of an example.