That's not what the FCC says.


Federal Communications Commission Tuesday blasted President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet, saying it will lead to "utility-style regulation," new taxes and less consumer choice.

Commissioner Arjit Pai also called on FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler to release the "secret" proposal to the public prior to the agency voting on it. Mr. Wheeler last week released an outline of strict new federal oversight of the Internet, a plan known to advocates as so-called "net neutrality," but won't reveal the text of the plan until the FCC's meeting on Feb. 26.

"The American people are being misled about President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet," Mr. Pai said. "Last week's carefully managed rollout was designed to downplay the plans of a massive intrusion in the Internet economy. I have now read the 332-page plan. It is worse than I had imagined."

He added, "The claim that President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet does not include rate regulation is flat-out false."

Mr. Wheeler said the plan will declare broadband a "telecommunications service" under Title II of the Communications Act, giving the FCC broad new regulatory powers. It's a more intrusive proposal than Mr. Wheeler originally outlined last year, and it more closely follows guidelines endorsed by Mr. Obama last November.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/10/fcc-commissioner-blasts-obamas-net-neutrality-plan/

Quote from: Solar on February 15, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
That's not what the FCC says.


Federal Communications Commission Tuesday blasted President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet, saying it will lead to "utility-style regulation," new taxes and less consumer choice.

Commissioner Arjit Pai also called on FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler to release the "secret" proposal to the public prior to the agency voting on it. Mr. Wheeler last week released an outline of strict new federal oversight of the Internet, a plan known to advocates as so-called "net neutrality," but won't reveal the text of the plan until the FCC's meeting on Feb. 26.

"The American people are being misled about President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet," Mr. Pai said. "Last week's carefully managed rollout was designed to downplay the plans of a massive intrusion in the Internet economy. I have now read the 332-page plan. It is worse than I had imagined."

He added, "The claim that President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet does not include rate regulation is flat-out false."

Mr. Wheeler said the plan will declare broadband a "telecommunications service" under Title II of the Communications Act, giving the FCC broad new regulatory powers. It's a more intrusive proposal than Mr. Wheeler originally outlined last year, and it more closely follows guidelines endorsed by Mr. Obama last November.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/10/fcc-commissioner-blasts-obamas-net-neutrality-plan/

Pai is one of two Republicans on the five-person FCC board. This is a partisan pissing contest, and in this case, it should be.

The FCC is supposed to be politics-neutral, made up of appointees nominated by POTUS, but ultimately answering to Congress. It's worth noting that the nearly identical FEC is currently going through a nearly identical crisis for nearly identical reasons. Both agencies are currently promoting new policies and regulations that will severely curtail the freedom of the internet, and those curtailments are carefully designed to disadvantage conservatives.

FCC; "we're the government, and we're here to help" 

Quote from: Solar on February 15, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
That's not what the FCC says.


Federal Communications Commission Tuesday blasted President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet, saying it will lead to "utility-style regulation," new taxes and less consumer choice.

Commissioner Arjit Pai also called on FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler to release the "secret" proposal to the public prior to the agency voting on it. Mr. Wheeler last week released an outline of strict new federal oversight of the Internet, a plan known to advocates as so-called "net neutrality," but won't reveal the text of the plan until the FCC's meeting on Feb. 26.

"The American people are being misled about President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet," Mr. Pai said. "Last week's carefully managed rollout was designed to downplay the plans of a massive intrusion in the Internet economy. I have now read the 332-page plan. It is worse than I had imagined."

He added, "The claim that President Obama's plan to regulate the Internet does not include rate regulation is flat-out false."

Mr. Wheeler said the plan will declare broadband a "telecommunications service" under Title II of the Communications Act, giving the FCC broad new regulatory powers. It's a more intrusive proposal than Mr. Wheeler originally outlined last year, and it more closely follows guidelines endorsed by Mr. Obama last November.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/10/fcc-commissioner-blasts-obamas-net-neutrality-plan/

And his refusal to reveal the plan prior to it's being voted upon by the FCC board is more of that "we have to pass it before you (the people of the United States) can know what's in it" crap Pelosi had the misfortune of saying to a reporter. These liberals simply do not understand the concept that no, we the people have a RIGHT not a privilege to know what is in a piece of proposed legislation PRIOR to it's passage. Our representatives to the Congress who must pass background checks in order to be on these boards have the right to know prior to it's passage on our behalf. PRIOR to any "secret" legislation being passed. Our system was set up that way intentionally by the founders. So we would have a republic, not a monarchy. These liberal swine simply do not get it, they just don't....(walks away shaking his head because at this point their ignorance is intentional)

We have to figure out a way to get around these oinkers.  Subscribers pay for usage. I buy tokens from Hughes net when I go over my $49 month allotment.  I see hosting plans advertised that allow for such an so an amount of usage. I assume this means companies like Net Flix have their own servers, so they simply log on to the system and the rest of the expense to operate is on us.  Is that it? 
If that is it, then we need our own information based internet. Have you looked at YouTube lately? It is about stupid childish entertainment and Google viewer preference tracking. Anything meaningful, like criticism of the government, is looked upon as subversive.
You really want to see subversive? Look at the picture in this article:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fcc-adopts-net-neutrality-rules-to-ban-internet-discrimination-163703235.html

Look how they phrase it, "internet discrimination." Geeyah! Does that me you ill?

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Federal regulators moved forward on Thursday with a Net neutrality plan to protect openness on the Internet by treating the online world more like heavily regulated telecommunications markets.
    What is net neutrality? U.S. debates once again Reuters
    Net Neutrality Plan: Devil Or Relief In The Details? Investor's Business Daily
    The government voted to save the internet Business Insider
    On U.S. net neutrality rules, 11th-hour push against vague rule Reuters

New rules from the Federal Communications Commission adopted on a 3-2 vote will prohibit Internet service providers like Comcast (CMCSA) and Verizon Communications (VZ) from discriminating against any web site or online service. That means sites like Netflix (NFLX) or Google's (GOOGL) YouTube won't have to pay extra fees or face sluggish connections with their users. And new sites and services will be able to reach everyone on the Internet on the same terms as the big players.
Courts have struck down earlier Net neutrality efforts, saying the FCC lacked authority to impose such rules. So this time around, the FCC chose to categorize high-speed Internet service as a telecommunications service. Consumers have long been guaranteed the right to call any phone number they desire and phone companies have to treat all calls equally.

Quote from: red_dirt on February 26, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
We have to figure out a way to get around these oinkers.  Subscribers pay for usage. I buy tokens from Hughes net when I go over my $49 month allotment.  I see hosting plans advertised that allow for such an so an amount of usage. I assume this means companies like Net Flix have their own servers, so they simply log on to the system and the rest of the expense to operate is on us.  Is that it? 
If that is it, then we need our own information based internet. Have you looked at YouTube lately? It is about stupid childish entertainment and Google viewer preference tracking. Anything meaningful, like criticism of the government, is looked upon as subversive.
You really want to see subversive? Look at the picture in this article:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fcc-adopts-net-neutrality-rules-to-ban-internet-discrimination-163703235.html

Look how they phrase it, "internet discrimination." Geeyah! Does that me you ill?

----------------------excerpts----------------------------------
Federal regulators moved forward on Thursday with a Net neutrality plan to protect openness on the Internet by treating the online world more like heavily regulated telecommunications markets.
    What is net neutrality? U.S. debates once again Reuters
    Net Neutrality Plan: Devil Or Relief In The Details? Investor's Business Daily
    The government voted to save the internet Business Insider
    On U.S. net neutrality rules, 11th-hour push against vague rule Reuters

New rules from the Federal Communications Commission adopted on a 3-2 vote will prohibit Internet service providers like Comcast (CMCSA) and Verizon Communications (VZ) from discriminating against any web site or online service. That means sites like Netflix (NFLX) or Google's (GOOGL) YouTube won't have to pay extra fees or face sluggish connections with their users. And new sites and services will be able to reach everyone on the Internet on the same terms as the big players.
Courts have struck down earlier Net neutrality efforts, saying the FCC lacked authority to impose such rules. So this time around, the FCC chose to categorize high-speed Internet service as a telecommunications service. Consumers have long been guaranteed the right to call any phone number they desire and phone companies have to treat all calls equally.

Typical Leftist move. They can't win the fight, or have lost the fight repeatedly, under the rules of the game, so they'll change the rules of the game. They'll just shift ISPs from Title I entities, which FCC cannot legally regulate the way they want, to Title II entities, which FCC can regulate the way they want, or so they think. Never mind that the regulatory structure -- in either case -- was set up in 1934, before the internet could even be imagined.

There are many ways to illustrate the difference between a Leftist and a conservative. Here's one: A conservatives assumes, as a default position, that government regulation of anything at all is probably bad, and requires proof of a public benefit before agreeing to it. A Leftist, by contrast, believes government regulation of anything at all is automatically good because it puts "smart people" in charge of things, and will consider no proof of the harm it might do.