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Title: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
I don't think any of you understand. Global warming is real, it is happening, and it will kill us. Most of the hottest years on record took place after 2000. My state has been in drought for 6 years. Tell the people in the Pacific losing their homes to flooding due to rising sea levels that climate change isn't real. Tell the 175 states that signed the Paris Agreement that climate change isn't real. We are one of 3 countries that didn't sign. Syria is currently in a civil war, and Nigeria doesn't think the bill pressures large, climate change causing countries enough. The US? The US wants to make more profit by leaching our dying planet of resources. Colder temperatures in certain locations is NOT proof against climate change. It is proof that the rising temperatures and increasing levels of sea water are changing ocean currents and air patterns, displacing them and causing massive destruction. Tell the species in the Great Barrier Reef, islands in the Pacific, the Arctic, and all over the planet who's climate is changing faster than they can adapt that climate change isn't real. You claim to love God's creation, yet you turn a blind eye as corporations smother it for a bit more profit. Your children will be the last to see the Great Barrier Reef. This is an irreversible fact. within the next couple decades, thousands of ecosystems, millions of species, a massive amount of biodiversity will be gone. And this is just a tiny part of the planet. Does this mean nothing too you? If not of yourselves, think of your children. If measures are not taken to preserve our planet NOW, your children will not have a future. Don't condemn your children to account for your mistakes.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 17, 2017, 06:32:00 PM
ROFL!!! We're all gonna die!!! Go away little girl, go tell your mommy she wants you.

My favorite version by the Happenings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mBo1yB5RQk
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 06:55:24 PM
Oh? Yes indeed, Climate Change is just a "hoax by the Chinese." The Ocean has risen 3 inches since the start of the industrial by pure "coincidence." its almost as if it hasn't been proven time and time and time again that greenhouse gasses released in huge amounts by industrial processes causes global warming. What killed the Great Barrier Reef? Hmm, certainly not the increasing acid content that has been PROVEN to kill corals. Nooooo it couldn't be. I guess we'll never know. And the melting Polar Ice Cap? its not like ice melts when temperatures rise, that's impossible! We all know that vast amounts of ice melt on their own without any outside influence or change in temperature! And the drought? Things happen! There DEFINITELY was NOT a discernible weather pattern shifting water vapor from the equator away from the coast, noo never. Climate change is FAKE, just like God, Trump's promises, and Fox News
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: tac on June 17, 2017, 06:55:51 PM
Sounds like Gore wrote that.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 17, 2017, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 06:55:24 PM
Oh? Yes indeed, Climate Change is just a "hoax by the Chinese." The Ocean has risen 3 inches since the start of the industrial by pure "coincidence." its almost as if it hasn't been proven time and time and time again that greenhouse gasses released in huge amounts by industrial processes causes global warming. What killed the Great Barrier Reef? Hmm, certainly not the increasing acid content that has been PROVEN to kill corals. Nooooo it couldn't be. I guess we'll never know. And the melting Polar Ice Cap? its not like ice melts when temperatures rise, that's impossible! We all know that vast amounts of ice melt on their own without any outside influence or change in temperature! And the drought? Things happen! There DEFINITELY was NOT a discernible weather pattern shifting water vapor from the equator away from the coast, noo never. Climate change is FAKE, just like God, Trump's promises, and Fox News
No sweetheart, climate change is real, if it wasn't happening, we'd all be dead.
No, actually the AGW scam was designed by globalist Marxists Hell bent on controlling the entire global market, but obviously, this is way beyond your ability to connect the dots.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 07:49:31 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 06:55:24 PM
Oh? Yes indeed, Climate Change is just a "hoax by the Chinese." The Ocean has risen 3 inches since the start of the industrial by pure "coincidence." its almost as if it hasn't been proven time and time and time again that greenhouse gasses released in huge amounts by industrial processes causes global warming. What killed the Great Barrier Reef? Hmm, certainly not the increasing acid content that has been PROVEN to kill corals. Nooooo it couldn't be. I guess we'll never know. And the melting Polar Ice Cap? its not like ice melts when temperatures rise, that's impossible! We all know that vast amounts of ice melt on their own without any outside influence or change in temperature! And the drought? Things happen! There DEFINITELY was NOT a discernible weather pattern shifting water vapor from the equator away from the coast, noo never. Climate change is FAKE, just like God, Trump's promises, and Fox News

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Why is NY not under water?
Whey do we have more ice this year then last year.
I have yet to see one thing of Al Gore's BS come true.   :lol:
At my age I have seen more Climate Change in my life time then you or Al Gore. 

Even God did not destroy the Earth.   By the way what happen to all that water?

Now WHY would a White Christian Girl be spreading all those lies.

You my be White a Christian and a Girl but have no critical thinking.

So then if there sooooooo good at telling us what will happen in 10 to 20 years.  WHY can they not tell us what the weather will be for the next full week or month and be 100% right for each day?   

Now I have been around for the so called Ice Age and the so called GW for coming around almost 100 years.   I would think about Yellowstone National Park or Mount Rainier blowing before I would GW killing us all.   
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
OBVIOUSLY, you are so right!! How did I not realize this impossible string of events was clearly the only answer! Global Marxist are so hell bent on controlling the market that they came up with a completely false conspiracy to trick us into handing them the reigns of the global market! There couldn't POSSIBLY be another, less absurd way to accomplish that! I SWEAR, I have been so blind this whole damn time! Global Marxist are melting thousands of tons of sea ice, releasing massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere and ocean, as well as releasing lead, mercury, sulfer, and other toxic chemicals! Oh wait... Aren't we doing that already?   
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:00:16 PM
Look asshole, its happening right now. New York is not underwater YET, but the sea level has risen, and precipitation has increased DRAMATICALLY.  Do you think all the recent tornadoes after 2000 on the east coast were random? Do you think the east coast had huge tornadoes every other year before the industrial revolution? Wake up dipshit
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 08:07:25 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
OBVIOUSLY, you are so right!! How did I not realize this impossible string of events was clearly the only answer! Global Marxist are so hell bent on controlling the market that they came up with a completely false conspiracy to trick us into handing them the reigns of the global market! There couldn't POSSIBLY be another, less absurd way to accomplish that! I SWEAR, I have been so blind this whole damn time! Global Marxist are melting thousands of tons of sea ice, releasing massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere and ocean, as well as releasing lead, mercury, sulfer, and other toxic chemicals! Oh wait... Aren't we doing that already?

That all was all going on before man was on Earth.  :lol:


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ab/4d/65/ab4d651f5bd490db74e3bdb22aad3102.jpg)
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:00:16 PM
Look asshole, its happening right now. New York is not underwater YET, but the sea level has risen, and precipitation has increased DRAMATICALLY.  Do you think all the recent tornadoes after 2000 on the east coast were random? Do you think the east coast had huge tornadoes every other year before the industrial revolution? Wake up dipshit

You my call me MR. Asshole.   

Oh my we have a WhiteChristianGirl.   :lol:

By the way you need to back up your BS, with facts and data on this board.  Or your just a troll flinging poo and hope it will stick.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:15:40 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:00:16 PM
Look asshole, its happening right now.
No it isn't.

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New York is not underwater YET, but the sea level has risen, and precipitation has increased DRAMATICALLY.  Do you think all the recent tornadoes after 2000 on the east coast were random? Do you think the east coast had huge tornadoes every other year before the industrial revolution? Wake up dipshit

Quit telling lies.  Just pouting and stomping your feet doesn't make your delusion a reality.  You need to figure out a way to learn to think.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:22:30 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
OBVIOUSLY, you are so right!! How did I not realize this impossible string of events was clearly the only answer! Global Marxist are so hell bent on controlling the market that they came up with a completely false conspiracy to trick us into handing them the reigns of the global market! There couldn't POSSIBLY be another, less absurd way to accomplish that! I SWEAR, I have been so blind this whole damn time! Global Marxist are melting thousands of tons of sea ice, releasing massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere and ocean, as well as releasing lead, mercury, sulfer, and other toxic chemicals! Oh wait... Aren't we doing that already?

Is there a solution?  Is there some way to take this yucky Co2 out of the air and convert it to oxygen?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 17, 2017, 08:30:43 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
OBVIOUSLY, you are so right!! How did I not realize this impossible string of events was clearly the only answer! Global Marxist are so hell bent on controlling the market that they came up with a completely false conspiracy to trick us into handing them the reigns of the global market! There couldn't POSSIBLY be another, less absurd way to accomplish that! I SWEAR, I have been so blind this whole damn time! Global Marxist are melting thousands of tons of sea ice, releasing massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere and ocean, as well as releasing lead, mercury, sulfer, and other toxic chemicals! Oh wait... Aren't we doing that already?
Co2 does not precede warming, no, it actually follows warming.
And yes, the Marxists have been crying wolf when I was in my 20s when they created the First  Earth day in 1970.
Bet you don't even know why it was created, do ya?

The "nationwide teach in" was spearheaded by Democratic Sen. Gaylord Nelson of Wisconsin and college professor Paul Ehrlich.
Ehrlich had just written the "Population Bomb" in 1968, which famously – and falsely – predicted, "In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."
Building on the idea, Ehrlich went on to advocate "brutal and heartless decisions" to solve the "problem" of overpopulation.

Earth Day Co-Founder Kills, Composts Girlfriend But that's another story, but here's a link anyway.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/22/flashback-1977-earth-day-co-founder-composts-dead-girlfriend/

But back to Earth Day, which in truth was just another way to celebrate another hero of the communist movement, Vladimir Lenin, founder of the Soviet Union.
Yes, my blinded and brainwashed child, the Marxists have been hard at work for decades, even seized the Democratic party, put an actual Marxist/Fabian socialist in office named Obama.
Bet you didn't know that either.

Here, learn something for a change.
www.wnd.com/2012/04/do-you-know-why-earth-day-is-april-22/
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 17, 2017, 08:32:41 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:22:30 PM
Is there a solution?  Is there some way to take this yucky Co2 out of the air and convert it to oxygen?
Shhhh!!! Don't tell the plants it's yucky. :laugh:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 17, 2017, 08:32:41 PM
Shhhh!!! Don't tell the plants it's yucky. :laugh:

I was hoping to get her on that one... it's hilarious how often they don't know that...
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 17, 2017, 08:47:41 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:39:57 PM
I was hoping to get her on that one... it's hilarious how often they don't know that...
Yeah, pretty obvious from the leftist drivel she's posting.
That's why I love posting history of the |"Green" movement, or better known as the new Marxist movement.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:22:30 PM
Is there a solution?  Is there some way to take this yucky Co2 out of the air and convert it to oxygen?

yes actually there is its called not logging the rainforest.
In case this concept is too difficult to understand I've included this equation
http://biotech4you.com/images/PLANTBIOTECH/577db9bb732e9f44a2050258b46c8a70.jpg (http://biotech4you.com/images/PLANTBIOTECH/577db9bb732e9f44a2050258b46c8a70.jpg)
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:50:42 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:48:28 PM
yes actually there is its called not logging the rainforest.
In case this concept is too difficult to understand I've included this equation
http://biotech4you.com/images/PLANTBIOTECH/577db9bb732e9f44a2050258b46c8a70.jpg (http://biotech4you.com/images/PLANTBIOTECH/577db9bb732e9f44a2050258b46c8a70.jpg)

Then what are we panicking about again?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:22:30 PM
Is there a solution?  Is there some way to take this yucky Co2 out of the air and convert it to oxygen?

Yes actually, its called not logging the rainforest
I've included the equation in case the concept is too difficult to understand
6CO2 + 6H2O = C6H12O6 +^O2

the O2 stands for oxygen since i doubt you passed chemistry
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:55:46 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:53:45 PM
Yes actually, its called not logging the rainforest
I've included the equation in case the concept is too difficult to understand
6CO2 + 6H2O = C6H12O6 +^O2

the O2 stands for oxygen since i doubt you passed chemistry

Oh, cool.  I was worried we were going to be stuck with all this extra CO2.

Is the rain forest in trouble?  Is that contributing to all this extra CO2?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:50:42 PM
Then what are we panicking about again?

Let me break it down.
We are panicking because we are releasing more CO2 than the plants can handle, while simultaneously logging said plants.   
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 08:59:51 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 08:50:42 PM
Then what are we panicking about again?


:lol:  Last I check we are planting more trees then we are cutting in the U.S.  Over 2 billion trees are planted in the U.S. each year and millions more trees regrow from seeds and sprout naturally.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
Sorry to break it to you, but the US does not consist of the entire planet
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 17, 2017, 09:05:51 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
Let me break it down.
We are panicking because we are releasing more CO2 than the plants can handle, while simultaneously logging said plants.
So what happened to your BS about my claim of this being a Marxist plot?
Oh, I know, you had no clue you were just another useful idiot, a Tool for the Marxists. I guess you could call it "An Inconvenient Truth"...
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:06:45 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
Let me break it down.
We are panicking because we are releasing more CO2 than the plants can handle, while simultaneously logging said plants.

Won't we start to have trouble breathing?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:10:12 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:06:45 PM
Won't we start to have trouble breathing?

We. Will. Not. Have. Trouble. Breathing. the amount of oxygen necessary to sustain humans is minimal, and besides, the problem is we have too much CO2 from burning fossil fuels, we have no problem with oxygen
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 09:12:39 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:06:45 PM
Won't we start to have trouble breathing?

The Evil Oceans Produce 16 Times As Much CO2 As Humans we need to get drain the oceans. 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:10:12 PM
We. Will. Not. Have. Trouble. Breathing. the amount of oxygen necessary to sustain humans is minimal, and besides, the problem is we have too much CO2 from burning fossil fuels, we have no problem with oxygen

Oh, thank goodness.

When is all this supposed to hit?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:10:12 PM
We. Will. Not. Have. Trouble. Breathing. the amount of oxygen necessary to sustain humans is minimal, and besides, the problem is we have too much CO2 from burning fossil fuels, we have no problem with oxygen

I see no facts or data backing up your poo flinging yet!    Humans make minimal CO2.  Stop the rain as it go in the Ocean.  Stop the  volcano.  Stop people from using wood in there life.  Stop the forest fires. 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:21:20 PM
I'm surprised at the lack of general intelligence, but let me explain how global warming works. When plants take CO2, they use the carbon to build their bodies and release the oxygen. These plants are fossilized over millions of years in carbon sinks. When we dig these up and burn them as fossil fuel, we're releasing millions of years worth of carbon into the atmosphere in the space of a few decades. The CO2 in the atmosphere, along with other greenhouse gasses we are releasing absorb infrared light and keep it trapped in the atmosphere. Millions of years worth of carbon is being released, a few plants aren't going to convert it back into carbon and fossilize it faster than we're releasing, the only way to stop global warming is to stop releasing carbon 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:21:20 PM
I'm surprised at the lack of general intelligence, but let me explain how global warming works. When plants take CO2, they use the carbon to build their bodies and release the oxygen. These plants are fossilized over millions of years in carbon sinks. When we dig these up and burn them as fossil fuel, we're releasing millions of years worth of carbon into the atmosphere in the space of a few decades. The CO2 in the atmosphere, along with other greenhouse gasses we are releasing absorb infrared light and keep it trapped in the atmosphere. Millions of years worth of carbon is being released, a few plants aren't going to convert it back into carbon and fossilize it faster than we're releasing, the only way to stop global warming is to stop releasing carbon

You have me scared, but I just need help figuring out what we're scared of.

When is all this supposed to hit?  I need to know when to be ready...
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:27:02 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:22:58 PM
You have me scared, but I just need help figuring out what we're scared of.

When is all this supposed to hit?  I need to know when to be ready...

Its hitting right now. The Great Barrier Reef is already almost completely dead, Sea levels have risen 3 inches since the start of the industrial revolution, polar ice cap and tundra ice is melting at an alarming rate, and we're losing millions of species every year as their environment changes faster than they can adapt. SOME of us, are trying to stop it before it becomes irreversible
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 09:29:23 PM
I'm surprised at the lack of your general Critical Thinking.   Did you have to go to college to get this brain dead as a LIV?

Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 09:29:23 PM
I'm surprised at the lack of your general Critical Thinking.   Did you have to go to college to get this brain dead as a LIV?

What exactly are you accusing me off? I see the insurmountable data saying that manmade global warming exists, and that it is a huge threat to civilization and life on the planet. Because I care about the planet and the 6 billion species living on it, I am trying to help prevent global warming. What exactly are you doing?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:35:09 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:27:02 PM
Its hitting right now.
Holy crap!!! Where!!! 

Quote
The Great Barrier Reef is already almost completely dead,
It is?

QuoteSea levels have risen 3 inches since the start of the industrial revolution,
Crap!! When are we going to be under water?

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polar ice cap and tundra ice is melting at an alarming rate,
The polar bears must be suffering bad right now...

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and we're losing millions of species every year as their environment changes faster than they can adapt. SOME of us, are trying to stop it before it becomes irreversible
What should I do?  Should I start prepping and getting ready???
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:36:55 PM
The best way to prevent Global warming is to target its source, the corrupt corporations who will do anything for profit. They are destroying the planet to line the pockets of a few. Do you not see a problem with this
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:36:55 PM
The best way to prevent Global warming is to target its source, the corrupt corporations who will do anything for profit. They are destroying the planet to line the pockets of a few. Do you not see a problem with this
Why would I want to prevent global warming again?  It sounds like a good idea....
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:39:24 PM
for anyone still confused,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6zW43U7yqM
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:31:59 PM
What exactly are you accusing me off? I see the insurmountable data saying that manmade global warming exists, and that it is a huge threat to civilization and life on the planet. Because I care about the planet and the 6 billion species living on it, I am trying to help prevent global warming. What exactly are you doing?

YOU have not provide any real insurmountable data.  All you have been doing is flinging your poo in hopes it will stick. 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:37:54 PM
Why would I want to prevent global warming again?  It sounds like a good idea....

You would want to prevent it to ensure the planet is habitable for future generations. Unless you want to destroy the planet and make it uninhabitable for a few hundred million years. Its a question of survival for the human race
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:39:24 PM
for anyone still confused

It says the arctic be melted by 2040.  Is that the date we're zeroing in on now?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
You would want to prevent it to ensure the planet is habitable for future generations. Unless you want to destroy the planet and make it uninhabitable for a few hundred million years. Its a question of survival for the human race

It sounds like global warming would be a good thing.  More vegetation, etc.  I don't understand why you're scared of stuff like that?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:41:38 PM
It says the arctic be melted by 2040.  Is that the date we're zeroing in on now?


How old do you think this Government Snowflake is?

Al said that sometime back. 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 09:40:44 PM
YOU have not provide any real insurmountable data.  All you have been doing is flinging your poo in hopes it will stick.

Okay, you want proof? here's your proof.

Global temperature study
http://ensembles-eu.metoffice.com/docs/Ensembles_final_report_Nov09.pdf

Arctic ice studies
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/nasa-study-shows-global-sea-ice-diminishing-despite-antarctic-gains

Sea Level study
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/study-reveals-acceleration-of-sea-level-rise-20055
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 09:48:12 PM

How old do you think this Government Snowflake is?

Al said that sometime back.

It's hard to say.  You can have the young Bernie follower, or you can have the old, crazy hair academic Marxist in his 70s.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:50:05 PM
Okay, you want proof? here's your proof.

Global temperature study
http://ensembles-eu.metoffice.com/docs/Ensembles_final_report_Nov09.pdf

Arctic ice studies
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/nasa-study-shows-global-sea-ice-diminishing-despite-antarctic-gains

Sea Level study
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/study-reveals-acceleration-of-sea-level-rise-20055

How much would the oceans rise if all the sea ice melted?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:52:48 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:45:49 PM
It sounds like global warming would be a good thing.  More vegetation, etc.  I don't understand why you're scared of stuff like that?

...If you want the human race along with 90% of the earth's species to go extinct in the 6th mass extinction in the history of the planet who am i to argue
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
How much would the oceans rise if all the sea ice melted?

70 meters. the netherlands are already below sea level.

believe me you do not want the ocean rising 70 meters
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:52:48 PM
...If you want the human race along with 90% of the earth's species to go extinct in the 6th mass extinction in the history of the planet who am i to argue

I don't think that would happen.  That's stupid.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:54:27 PM
I don't think that would happen.  That's stupid.

Please explain why you don't think that will happen.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
Please explain why you don't think that will happen.

Because in order to think that humans can affect nature by any significant way, I'd have to be stupid.  I've been having this argument with greenies since the 90s, and they have always been wrong, every time.  What's worse is you guys continue to stick with your same BS and don't change.  So, why should I believe you now when you have been wrong for decades?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
Because in order to think that humans can affect nature by any significant way, I'd have to be stupid.  I've been having this argument with greenies since the 90s, and they have always been wrong, every time.  What's worse is you guys continue to stick with your same BS and don't change.  So, why should I believe you now when you have been wrong for decades?

Because we CAN and HAVE changed nature. The Tasmanian tiger, the dodo, the Galapagos tortoise, and millions of others. They didn't just die out, we hunted them to extinction. Our metropolitan areas are huge, jacksonville florida alone is 2,265 km². The arctic ice is melting for a reason, satellite imagery proves we've been loosing permafrost and it isn't just melting of its own accord. Think about how many cars there are. Think about how much oil they use. Now think about all that oil being converted into gas and released into the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 10:06:28 PM
Because we CAN and HAVE changed nature.
I'm sorry, but I don't agree that we haven't had climate cycles before humans.  I think we had climate cycles since the beginning of the Earth.

QuoteThe Tasmanian tiger, the dodo, the Galapagos tortoise, and millions of others. They didn't just die out, we hunted them to extinction. Our metropolitan areas are huge, jacksonville florida alone is 2,265 km². The arctic ice is melting for a reason, satellite imagery proves we've been loosing permafrost and it isn't just melting of its own accord. Think about how many cars there are. Think about how much oil they use. Now think about all that oil being converted into gas and released into the atmosphere.
That upsets me that those animals are extinct.  I would have loved to have tasted them.

Stop conflating pollution with man made global warming.  That only works on people who have trouble thinking.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 17, 2017, 10:36:17 PM
I must have missed this one.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 10:37:21 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 17, 2017, 10:36:17 PM
I missed this one.

I moved it from the Science board...
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 17, 2017, 10:38:14 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 10:37:21 PM
I moved it from the Science board...

Has she given us an update on the polar bears?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 17, 2017, 10:38:14 PM
Has she given us an update on the polar bears?

Not yet... she's still trying to figure out why we should be scared of a warmer climate.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 10:37:21 PM
I moved it from the Science board...

And I was thinking of moving it to The Nut House.   :lol:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 17, 2017, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
Not yet... she's still trying to figure out why we should be scared of a warmer climate.

So the world isn't coming to an end on Tuesday?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 17, 2017, 11:25:54 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 11:07:18 PM
And I was thinking of moving it to The Nut House.   :lol:

Which should be renamed the Kathsung Room.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 18, 2017, 12:02:25 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 17, 2017, 11:25:00 PM
So the world isn't coming to an end on Tuesday?

I wish these people had the commitment of Heaven's Gate.  At least that way, we wouldn't have to hear from them every 10 years about how this time the flood is really coming.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Bronx on June 18, 2017, 04:20:49 AM
I have a very serious question while we are on plants, and birds, and rocks, and things. I'm a carnivore. I love me a big ole ribeye steak on the grill. While the steak is cooking my month just salivates uncontrollable. My wife says i'm forming at the month again and I need to see a doctor about this problem.

Anyway the question I have is when a vegan mows their lawn do they salivate like I do when they cut their grass.....?

Just wondering.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: supsalemgr on June 18, 2017, 04:48:20 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
Sorry to break it to you, but the US does not consist of the entire planet

So, are you posting in China and India to make your point?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 18, 2017, 04:49:36 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
Sorry to break it to you, but the US does not consist of the entire planet

And you communist twits think we should pay for others to clean up a mess only YOU believe exists? We do what WE can, or should...and then what? You expect the U.S. to pay others' bills in this?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 18, 2017, 04:54:42 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:36:55 PM
The best way to prevent Global warming is to target its source, the corrupt corporations who will do anything for profit. They are destroying the planet to line the pockets of a few. Do you not see a problem with this

Eight of the ten richest members of Congress are Democrats. You were saying about lining pockets of the few?

That reminds me. I've got to put in an order for Canadian lumber. If we stop cutting our own, to please Little Miss NoLoad here, we'll need the imports for our building industry ... the same bunch the eco-freaks don't care get unemployed.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 18, 2017, 04:56:59 AM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:37:54 PM
Why would I want to prevent global warming again?  It sounds like a good idea....

The older I get, the more my income is limited. Therefore, I want to save heating costs. Either I enjoy the global warming saving me those heating costs...or else I burn liberals.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 18, 2017, 04:59:35 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
Please explain why you don't think that will happen.

You made the asinine claim, so it is YOUR job to justify it. You cannot. All you have are thirdhand bullshit lies you stupidly bought because whatever you called your brain went on a sabbatical.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 05:02:04 AM
First of all, welcome to the forum and thank you for your post.  This is a video on the topic of global warming that I always enjoy.  It has some very educational points that I think you will also enjoy.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=quOw4dI4Apw
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 05:11:41 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:39:24 PM
for anyone still confused,


The only one that still seems to be confused obviously is you.  I've noticed that you haven't been back to rebut any of the replies to your statements.  Also, what is meant by your statement "Gay Ass Communist"??  There's a lot that can be read into that.   :biggrin: :lol:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 18, 2017, 05:23:43 AM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 05:11:41 AM
The only one that still seems to be confused obviously is you.  I've noticed that you haven't been back to rebut any of the replies to your statements.  Also, what is meant by your statement "Gay Ass Communist"??  There's a lot that can be read into that.   :biggrin: :lol:

Most newbies here don't figure out how to change their "motto lines". This troll got it done straight out the gate.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 05:25:34 AM
Especially for you, 'Gay Ass Communist':

http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/04/no-global-warming-at-all-for-18-years-9-months-

http://www.naturalnews.com/055151_global_warming_science_hoax_climate_skepticism.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/#6bc57252485d

https://www.onenewsnow.com/science-tech/2016/08/20/scholar-exposes-lies-behind-global-warming

http://www.dailywire.com/news/9767/9-things-you-need-know-about-climate-change-hoax-aaron-bandler

BTW, Sorry for the Inconvenient Truth!
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 05:28:42 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 17, 2017, 11:25:54 PM
Which should be renamed the Kathsung Room.

katsung.... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 18, 2017, 05:37:10 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 05:28:42 AM
katsung.... :thumbsup:

Don't say it three times, or....
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 18, 2017, 06:11:13 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
OBVIOUSLY, you are so right!! How did I not realize this impossible string of events was clearly the only answer! Global Marxist are so hell bent on controlling the market that they came up with a completely false conspiracy to trick us into handing them the reigns of the global market! There couldn't POSSIBLY be another, less absurd way to accomplish that! I SWEAR, I have been so blind this whole damn time! Global Marxist are melting thousands of tons of sea ice, releasing massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere and ocean, as well as releasing lead, mercury, sulfer, and other toxic chemicals! Oh wait... Aren't we doing that already?
\Where did I say they were causing AGW?
Oh wait, that's how leftist tools, such as yourself avoid debate. Match, meet strawman!
Now, I suggest you respond to this posty, or it may be your last.

Co2 does not precede warming, no, it actually follows warming.
And yes, the Marxists have been crying wolf when I was in my 20s when they created the First  Earth day in 1970.
Bet you don't even know why it was created, do ya?

The "nationwide teach in" was spearheaded by Democratic Sen. Gaylord Nelson of Wisconsin and college professor Paul Ehrlich.
Ehrlich had just written the "Population Bomb" in 1968, which famously – and falsely – predicted, "In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."
Building on the idea, Ehrlich went on to advocate "brutal and heartless decisions" to solve the "problem" of overpopulation.

Earth Day Co-Founder Kills, Composts Girlfriend But that's another story, but here's a link anyway.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/22/flashback-1977-earth-day-co-founder-composts-dead-girlfriend/

But back to Earth Day, which in truth was just another way to celebrate another hero of the communist movement, Vladimir Lenin, founder of the Soviet Union.
Yes, my blinded and brainwashed child, the Marxists have been hard at work for decades, even seized the Democratic party, put an actual Marxist/Fabian socialist in office named Obama.
Bet you didn't know that either.

Here, learn something for a change.
www.wnd.com/2012/04/do-you-know-why-earth-day-is-april-22/
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 06:32:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 18, 2017, 06:11:13 AM
\Where did I say they were causing AGW?
Oh wait, that's how leftist tools, such as yourself avoid debate. Match, meet strawman!
Now, I suggest you respond to this posty, or it may be your last.

Co2 does not precede warming, no, it actually follows warming.
And yes, the Marxists have been crying wolf when I was in my 20s when they created the First  Earth day in 1970.
Bet you don't even know why it was created, do ya?

The "nationwide teach in" was spearheaded by Democratic Sen. Gaylord Nelson of Wisconsin and college professor Paul Ehrlich.
Ehrlich had just written the "Population Bomb" in 1968, which famously – and falsely – predicted, "In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."
Building on the idea, Ehrlich went on to advocate "brutal and heartless decisions" to solve the "problem" of overpopulation.

Earth Day Co-Founder Kills, Composts Girlfriend But that's another story, but here's a link anyway.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/22/flashback-1977-earth-day-co-founder-composts-dead-girlfriend/

But back to Earth Day, which in truth was just another way to celebrate another hero of the communist movement, Vladimir Lenin, founder of the Soviet Union.
Yes, my blinded and brainwashed child, the Marxists have been hard at work for decades, even seized the Democratic party, put an actual Marxist/Fabian socialist in office named Obama.
Bet you didn't know that either.

Here, learn something for a change.
www.wnd.com/2012/04/do-you-know-why-earth-day-is-april-22/

So is just posting her own feelings (BS) and will not debate real facts.  I don't see one thing that is not back by government grant moneys  that are financial award given by the federal, state or local governments.  Stop the GW grant money and the GW BS will stop.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 18, 2017, 08:26:56 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 06:32:15 AM
So is just posting her own feelings (BS) and will not debate real facts.  I don't see one thing that is not back by government grant moneys  that are financial award given by the federal, state or local governments.  Stop the GW grant money monkey's and the GW BS will stop.
:biggrin:
FIFY...
That's the thing these idiot kids don't get, the grant money wasn't given to find out the truth, no, it was awarded to prove a theory put forth by Marxists and monied interests, including many in the gop'E.
Not one of the papers written for the UN IPCC was designed to disprove AGW for two reasons, one, had it been, it would destroy the lie of AGW, and two, those that did prove the scam were rejected by peer review.

The IPCC was never set up to find the truth, only support a lie, and even now, after having been caught numerous times lying and falsifying data, we have these useful idiots ignoring the truth out of fear of being hit by a piece of falling sky.
All I can say to this moron, is grab your water wings and a hardhat and run to higher ground, preferably the Middle East. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 10:32:00 AM
Well today I will do my part for GW.   :rolleyes:

I will dump the garbage I dump once every week.  Then cut the grass on a riding lawn mower.   As I have tomato's, cucumber and Lettuce growing, I will fire off the BBQ so they will have some CO2.  I will add 2 nice Rib-eye steak's.  They say I will not be alone as there will be around  56.425M gas grills then add all the Charcoal grills.  We will be saving a lot of grass, trees and corn fields.  As my neighbor has about 3500 acres, in corn and alfalfa this year.  I am sure he will be happy.   
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 18, 2017, 03:12:33 PM
Here's something leftists can't answer.

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.fotki.com%2F1_p%2Crtfgdqwfftfrffqxbqfqsbrwqdbw%2Cvi%2Fbrtwgbqddxbrtgtfbtrxbrdrwtkrr%2F1%2F1595431%2F13696380%2F201706065b294167_large-vi.jpg&hash=06ba4fc99372ee56340c5135a7fbd51b4d49e48b)
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 06:55:04 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 10:32:00 AM
Well today I will do my part for GW.   :rolleyes:

I will dump the garbage I dump once every week.  Then cut the grass on a riding lawn mower.   As I have tomato's, cucumber and Lettuce growing, I will fire off the BBQ so they will have some CO2.  I will add 2 nice Rib-eye steak's.  They say I will not be alone as there will be around  56.425M gas grills then add all the Charcoal grills.  We will be saving a lot of grass, trees and corn fields.  As my neighbor has about 3500 acres, in corn and alfalfa this year.  I am sure he will be happy.   

Thanks 'Walks' for helping me out.  Sometimes, I forget that I'm doing my part and I  feel better knowing that I'm one of those GW contributors. I lit up the ole BBQ with charcoal today, however, I had to use more charcoal than I usually do having to serve a dozen people.  I usually cook out at least once a week, now that I've come out of the shadows, I'll be sure to cook out more often.  Oh ...we were responsible and put all our empty beer and soda cans in the garbage...we didn't want to overflow our recycle bin!
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 06:55:04 PM
Thanks 'Walks' for helping me out.  Sometimes, I forget that I'm doing my part and I  feel better knowing that I'm one of those GW contributors. I lit up the ole BBQ with charcoal today, however, I had to use more charcoal than I usually do having to serve a dozen people.  I usually cook out at least once a week, now that I've come out of the shadows, I'll be sure to cook out more often.  Oh ...we were responsible and put all our empty beer and soda cans in the garbage...we didn't want to overflow our recycle bin!


Recycle bin?  :lol:
I am lucky they send a garbage truck out for my garbage.  As Washington state don't like sending trucks 60 miles out of town.  Oregon comes over and picks up our garbage. 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 07:24:39 PM

Recycle bin?  :lol:
I am lucky they send a garbage truck out for my garbage.  As Washington state don't like sending trucks 60 miles out of town.  Oregon comes over and picks up our garbage.

Ah... sounds like you have a nice remote chunk of property.  :thumbup: 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 18, 2017, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
I don't think any of you understand. Global warming is real, it is happening, and it will kill us. Most of the hottest years on record took place after 2000. My state has been in drought for 6 years. Tell the people in the Pacific losing their homes to flooding due to rising sea levels that climate change isn't real. Tell the 175 states that signed the Paris Agreement that climate change isn't real. We are one of 3 countries that didn't sign. Syria is currently in a civil war, and Nigeria doesn't think the bill pressures large, climate change causing countries enough. The US? The US wants to make more profit by leaching our dying planet of resources. Colder temperatures in certain locations is NOT proof against climate change. It is proof that the rising temperatures and increasing levels of sea water are changing ocean currents and air patterns, displacing them and causing massive destruction. Tell the species in the Great Barrier Reef, islands in the Pacific, the Arctic, and all over the planet who's climate is changing faster than they can adapt that climate change isn't real. You claim to love God's creation, yet you turn a blind eye as corporations smother it for a bit more profit. Your children will be the last to see the Great Barrier Reef. This is an irreversible fact. within the next couple decades, thousands of ecosystems, millions of species, a massive amount of biodiversity will be gone. And this is just a tiny part of the planet. Does this mean nothing too you? If not of yourselves, think of your children. If measures are not taken to preserve our planet NOW, your children will not have a future. Don't condemn your children to account for your mistakes.

Sorry, could you repeat that?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 09:07:36 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 18, 2017, 08:49:06 PM
Sorry, could you repeat that?

You must have missed the part where she stated "tell the species in the Great Barrier Reef, islands in the Pacific, the Arctic, and all over the planet..."

If only you could talk to the animals!    :lol: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CuDL1hfIyU
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 18, 2017, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on June 18, 2017, 09:07:36 PM
You must have missed the part where she stated "tell the species in the Great Barrier Reef, islands in the Pacific, the Arctic, and all over the planet..."

If only you could talk to the animals!    :lol: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CuDL1hfIyU

He's a clam whisperer!
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: taxed on June 19, 2017, 02:11:15 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 18, 2017, 09:25:44 PM
He's a clam whisperer!

Those might be on her endangered species list...
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 05:54:21 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 18, 2017, 09:25:44 PM
He's a clam whisperer!
And known for molesting Fairy shrimp.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 19, 2017, 05:54:29 AM
As we ALLLLLLLL know, whenever lake levels rise, it's because of global warming melting the ice caps and we're all gonna die or maybe have to wear fewer clothes.

So I was browsing through articles on the 50th anniversary this year of the St. Lawrence Seaway and its well-earned place as a wonder of modern engineering --- speaking of things Americans and Canadians got 100% right ---

---And I learned that after two months of unusually heavy rainfall, Lake Ontario levels were so dangerously high that both nations agreed to open a dam to let out extra amounts of Lake Ontario water. That in turn has created a problem with wakes and currents which authorities say might seriously impact the billions-of-dollars shipping industry.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ontario-lake-levels-new-york-state-1.4162073

What's this got to do with same moron spouting "global warming" crap to gullible students?

Nothing. Nada. In the real world we blame the rain and the sun, not some unproved theory.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 19, 2017, 06:00:15 AM
Quote from: quiller on June 19, 2017, 05:54:29 AM
As we ALLLLLLLL know, whenever lake levels rise, it's because of global warming melting the ice caps and we're all gonna die or maybe have to wear fewer clothes.

So I was browsing through articles on the 50th anniversary this year of the St. Lawrence Seaway and its well-earned place as a wonder of modern engineering --- speaking of things Americans and Canadians got 100% right ---

---And I learned that after two months of unusually heavy rainfall, Lake Ontario levels were so dangerously high that both nations agreed to open a dam to let out extra amounts of Lake Ontario water. That in turn has created a problem with wakes and currents which authorities say might seriously impact the billions-of-dollars shipping industry.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ontario-lake-levels-new-york-state-1.4162073

What's this got to do with same moron spouting "global warming" crap to gullible students?

Nothing. Nada. In the real world we blame the rain and the sun, not some unproved theory.

Some haven't joined the real world yet and some never will.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Dubinsky on June 19, 2017, 06:14:34 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 17, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
You my call me MR. Asshole.   

Oh my we have a WhiteChristianGirl.   :lol:

By the way you need to back up your BS, with facts and data on this board.  Or your just a troll flinging poo and hope it will stick.

Hey walks you and I post at that "other place".  Ask yourself who went on for days challenging and vilifying everyone who dared to challenge climate change. It was the only topic he ever discussed. Otherwise he trolls and makes random attacks.  He just about begged people to discuss the topic with him.

Interesting name as well since he despises Christians and is always there on a moments notice to remind us that he believes there is no God.

I'm sure you can figure out who this "might" be. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Possum on June 19, 2017, 06:21:20 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:54:01 PM
70 meters. the netherlands are already below sea level.

believe me you do not want the ocean rising 70 meters
This might help you sleep nights  https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/cryosat-arctic-ice-same-thickness-as-1940/
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 06:38:13 AM
Quote from: quiller on June 19, 2017, 05:54:29 AM
As we ALLLLLLLL know, whenever lake levels rise, it's because of global warming melting the ice caps and we're all gonna die or maybe have to wear fewer clothes.

So I was browsing through articles on the 50th anniversary this year of the St. Lawrence Seaway and its well-earned place as a wonder of modern engineering --- speaking of things Americans and Canadians got 100% right ---

---And I learned that after two months of unusually heavy rainfall, Lake Ontario levels were so dangerously high that both nations agreed to open a dam to let out extra amounts of Lake Ontario water. That in turn has created a problem with wakes and currents which authorities say might seriously impact the billions-of-dollars shipping industry.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ontario-lake-levels-new-york-state-1.4162073

What's this got to do with same moron spouting "global warming" crap to gullible students?

Nothing. Nada. In the real world we blame the rain and the sun, not some unproved theory.


Yep, the mental midget even blamed those rains and the rain Ca received on AGW, thing is, even the AGW crowd said El Nino had absolutely nothing to do with global warming, that it was part of our natural cycle.
So now as the West Coast starts to cycle back towards drought, once again, useful idiots such as this one will spew more emotional lies based on anecdotal evidence.
Thing is, even true scientists admit you can't honestly measure global warming based on a century or two of data, it takes an actual millennium to see observable change, as noted in the graphs below.


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Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Billy's bayonet on June 19, 2017, 06:54:46 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 06:09:09 PM
I don't think any of you understand. Global warming is real, it is happening, and it will kill us. Most of the hottest years on record took place after 2000. My state has been in drought for 6 years. Tell the people in the Pacific losing their homes to flooding due to rising sea levels that climate change isn't real. Tell the 175 states that signed the Paris Agreement that climate change isn't real. We are one of 3 countries that didn't sign. Syria is currently in a civil war, and Nigeria doesn't think the bill pressures large, climate change causing countries enough. The US? The US wants to make more profit by leaching our dying planet of resources. Colder temperatures in certain locations is NOT proof against climate change. It is proof that the rising temperatures and increasing levels of sea water are changing ocean currents and air patterns, displacing them and causing massive destruction. Tell the species in the Great Barrier Reef, islands in the Pacific, the Arctic, and all over the planet who's climate is changing faster than they can adapt that climate change isn't real. You claim to love God's creation, yet you turn a blind eye as corporations smother it for a bit more profit. Your children will be the last to see the Great Barrier Reef. This is an irreversible fact. within the next couple decades, thousands of ecosystems, millions of species, a massive amount of biodiversity will be gone. And this is just a tiny part of the planet. Does this mean nothing too you? If not of yourselves, think of your children. If measures are not taken to preserve our planet NOW, your children will not have a future. Don't condemn your children to account for your mistakes.



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE...........AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nobody gets out alive.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 19, 2017, 07:05:43 AM
...hmm....still waiting for WhiteChristianGirl/aka/Gay Ass Communist to respond.   :love:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 04:37:50 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 18, 2017, 07:24:39 PM

Recycle bin?  :lol:
I am lucky they send a garbage truck out for my garbage.  As Washington state don't like sending trucks 60 miles out of town.  Oregon comes over and picks up our garbage.
That 3 inch ocean rise is probably from all her liberal friend in New York dumping their trash barges!
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 19, 2017, 05:41:41 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSokUIJbQZsR-2XFb5x2wyVYzYtf23E8yzlqt2K8vDmG-mS9Yo_)
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on June 19, 2017, 07:05:43 AM
...hmm....still waiting for WhiteChristianGirl/aka/Gay Ass Communist to respond.   :love:
She's a bit slow, but finally figured out she was way out of her league, so she went back to Planet Disney or Washpo.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2017, 05:47:28 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on June 19, 2017, 05:41:41 PM
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Billy's bayonet on June 19, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2017, 05:47:28 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


What are you laughing at, Bernie Sanders actually said Terrorism is due to climate change, naturally all his lemmings believe it.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 19, 2017, 06:26:41 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on June 19, 2017, 05:57:52 PM

What are you laughing at, Bernie Sanders actually said Terrorism is due to climate change, naturally all his lemmings believe it.

If climate change causes terrorism and we are at war with terrorists does that mean we bomb clouds? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 06:32:15 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 19, 2017, 06:26:41 PM
If climate change causes terrorism and we are at war with terrorists does that mean we bomb clouds? I'm confused.
If Climate change causes terrorism and we are fighting terrorist aren't we doing our part to fight the effects of Global Warming?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 19, 2017, 06:46:06 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 19, 2017, 06:32:15 PM
If Climate change causes terrorism and we are fighting terrorist aren't we doing our part to fight the effects of Global Warming?

SHABOOM!

Heads explode in San Francisco, Portland and NYC.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 19, 2017, 07:53:07 PM
This is something the Snowflake will not read. 

snip~
The IPCC estimates that, since the Industrial Revolution, humans have released 365 billion tons of carbon from burning fossil fuels. Annual emissions, including those from deforestation and cement production, are less than 9 billion tons. Yet natural carbon cycles involve annual exchanges of carbon between the atmosphere, the land, and the oceans many times greater than emissions from human activities. The IPCC estimates that 118.7 billion tons of carbon per year is emitted from land and 78.4 billion tons from oceans. Thus, the human contribution of 9 billion tons annually accounts for less than 5 percent of the total gross emissions. The AGW hypothesis, as well as all the climate-change policies that depend on it, assumes that the human 5 percent drives the overall change in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere—and that the other 95 percent, comprising natural emissions, is counterbalanced by absorption of CO2 from the atmosphere by natural processes. Summing it up, the IPCC declared in its fourth assessment report, in 2007: "The increase in atmospheric CO2 is known to be caused by human activities."


This is a good read for the Snowflake.  But they S/He will not read and learn.
more @
https://www.city-journal.org/html/unsettling-climate-13669.html
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 20, 2017, 05:32:52 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 19, 2017, 07:53:07 PM
This is something the Snowflake will not read. 

snip~
The IPCC estimates that, since the Industrial Revolution, humans have released 365 billion tons of carbon from burning fossil fuels. Annual emissions, including those from deforestation and cement production, are less than 9 billion tons. Yet natural carbon cycles involve annual exchanges of carbon between the atmosphere, the land, and the oceans many times greater than emissions from human activities. The IPCC estimates that 118.7 billion tons of carbon per year is emitted from land and 78.4 billion tons from oceans. Thus, the human contribution of 9 billion tons annually accounts for less than 5 percent of the total gross emissions. The AGW hypothesis, as well as all the climate-change policies that depend on it, assumes that the human 5 percent drives the overall change in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere—and that the other 95 percent, comprising natural emissions, is counterbalanced by absorption of CO2 from the atmosphere by natural processes. Summing it up, the IPCC declared in its fourth assessment report, in 2007: "The increase in atmospheric CO2 is known to be caused by human activities."


This is a good read for the Snowflake.  But they S/He will not read and learn.
more @
https://www.city-journal.org/html/unsettling-climate-13669.html
"Thus, the human contribution of 9 billion tons annually accounts for less than 5 percent of the total gross emissions."

Now, throw in one new volcano and that number drops to zero, but that doesn't fit the equation of controlling the free mkt and capitalism.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Billy's bayonet on June 20, 2017, 05:55:08 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 19, 2017, 06:26:41 PM
If climate change causes terrorism and we are at war with terrorists does that mean we bomb clouds? I'm confused.


Since cow farts are responsible for global warming I think we are supposed to be bombing ranches and dairy farms.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ghoulardi on June 20, 2017, 08:03:13 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
Let me break it down.
We are panicking because we are releasing more CO2 than the plants can handle, while simultaneously logging said plants.

So then, with all this excess CO2, why doesn't Earth look like Endor? You know, all undergrowth, vines, and trees? I would think with all this excess CO2, you claim, the plants would go wild with overgrowth and take over the planet
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ghoulardi on June 20, 2017, 08:04:54 AM
Quote from: WhiteChristianGirl(tm) on June 17, 2017, 09:21:20 PM
I'm surprised at the lack of general intelligence, but let me explain how global warming works. When plants take CO2, they use the carbon to build their bodies and release the oxygen. These plants are fossilized over millions of years in carbon sinks. When we dig these up and burn them as fossil fuel, we're releasing millions of years worth of carbon into the atmosphere in the space of a few decades. The CO2 in the atmosphere, along with other greenhouse gasses we are releasing absorb infrared light and keep it trapped in the atmosphere. Millions of years worth of carbon is being released, a few plants aren't going to convert it back into carbon and fossilize it faster than we're releasing, the only way to stop global warming is to stop releasing carbon

Now your saying carbon is bad?! Aren't we carbon-based lifeforms?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ghoulardi on June 20, 2017, 08:12:04 AM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2017, 09:58:42 PM
Because in order to think that humans can affect nature by any significant way, I'd have to be stupid.  I've been having this argument with greenies since the 90s, and they have always been wrong, every time.  What's worse is you guys continue to stick with your same BS and don't change.  So, why should I believe you now when you have been wrong for decades?

They have changed their tune, once...back in the 70s we were headed into another ice age

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2015/04/18/wrong-bill-maher-reporting-global-cooling-70s-not-limited-single-story

Here is a list of articles from the 70s warning of the coming ice age:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/01/global-cooling-compilation/

Now its, the oceans are rising

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Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 20, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
And they think GW is a big thing. 

There Have Been 296 Earthquakes In The Vicinity Of The Yellowstone Supervolcano Within The Last 7 Days

more @
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/there-have-been-296-earthquakes-in-the-vicinity-of-the-yellowstone-supervolcano-within-the-last-7-days
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 20, 2017, 01:28:37 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 20, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
And they think GW is a big thing. 

There Have Been 296 Earthquakes In The Vicinity Of The Yellowstone Supervolcano Within The Last 7 Days

more @
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/there-have-been-296-earthquakes-in-the-vicinity-of-the-yellowstone-supervolcano-within-the-last-7-days

Thanks for the info; I had forgotten about this and I had read a similar report on Yellowstone about 6  months ago.  Who knows when it will decide the fate of our nation; though the article I read stated it could happen soon.  The lava pool is larger than they first calculated is not a good sign...the fact that it's not being reported by the MSM is troubling.  Keeping it under wraps I suppose so people don't panic; actually there isn't a damn thing we can do. 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 20, 2017, 01:38:43 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on June 20, 2017, 01:28:37 PM
Thanks for the info; I had forgotten about this and I had read a similar report on Yellowstone about 6  months ago.  Who knows when it will decide the fate of our nation; though the article I read stated it could happen soon.  The lava pool is larger than they first calculated is not a good sign...the fact that it's not being reported by the MSM is troubling.  Keeping it under wraps I suppose so people don't panic; actually there isn't a damn thing we can do.


Hope the hell you live up wind when it blows. 

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Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 20, 2017, 01:45:00 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on June 20, 2017, 01:28:37 PM
Thanks for the info; I had forgotten about this and I had read a similar report on Yellowstone about 6  months ago.  Who knows when it will decide the fate of our nation; though the article I read stated it could happen soon.  The lava pool is larger than they first calculated is not a good sign...the fact that it's not being reported by the MSM is troubling.  Keeping it under wraps I suppose so people don't panic; actually there isn't a damn thing we can do.
I've gotten word that Calif has brought in a shit load of geologists very recently, word is, the San Andreas fault is getting weird.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 20, 2017, 01:57:21 PM
We live in the deep deep south so I don't think we'd be immediately affected by the fallout from the ash ... problem of course would be water and food. I'm a prepper; we might be ok for a short while (maybe hopeful thinking) but it is difficult to fathom what it would be like with most of the country to be buried in 10 ft. of ash. Certainly the food and water supplies would cease.  Even if one had seeds and some uncontaminated soil, it would seem with no sun and poor indoor air quality, not much would grow. The cooling wouldn't be too bad, but hopefully as you stated which way the winds would be blowing would be a definite determining factor. 
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Hoofer on June 20, 2017, 04:46:20 PM
Hold on a sec.
(dang computer isn't allowing me to open multiple windows....)
QuoteEach year, 1,000 to 3,000 earthquakes occur within Yellowstone National Park and its immediate surroundings. Although most are too small to be felt, these quakes reflect the active nature of the Yellowstone region, one of the most seismically active areas in the United States. Each year, several quakes of magnitude 3 to 4 are felt by people in the park.


This is from the USGS website & from Yellowstone's website, google it.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 21, 2017, 07:05:41 AM
Tesla car battery production releases as much CO2 as 8 years of gasoline driving.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/20/tesla-car-battery-production-releases-as-much-co2-as-8-years-of-gasoline-driving/

Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ghoulardi on June 21, 2017, 08:11:42 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 21, 2017, 07:05:41 AM
Tesla car battery production releases as much CO2 as 8 years of gasoline driving.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/20/tesla-car-battery-production-releases-as-much-co2-as-8-years-of-gasoline-driving/

Not only that, but were do the cars get the electricity they recharge the batteries with? The outlet. And were does that elecricity come from? A coal plant.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 21, 2017, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 21, 2017, 07:05:41 AM
Tesla car battery production releases as much CO2 as 8 years of gasoline driving.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/20/tesla-car-battery-production-releases-as-much-co2-as-8-years-of-gasoline-driving/
Damn! There's those inconvenient facts that keep getting in the way.

But wait, it gets even worse! Temperature and depth of discharge, as well as how long it remained discharged play a huge part in Li degradation.
In lead acid battery technology, a standard is 100 to 200 cycles in a deep cycle battery and it's essentially dead at that point, but you can avoid cycling if you recharge before 70% of capacity.

Not so with Li batteries, 300 to 500 cycles, but consider you drive a commute within the distance of the manufacturer's mileage claims?
This would literally cut the life of the battery in half, meaning you'd have to replace it within 4 years, also meaning you literally doubled your Co2 footprint you so proudly and smugly wore when you purchased your new Tesla.


Obviously, nobody knows exactly how long Tesla packs will last. The math is somewhat simple, though. The full capacity of a lithium-ion battery cell should be good for 300 to 500 cycles. So if you drive a Roadster through 300 194-mile standard-mode cycles, it translates to 58,200 miles. If it's 500 cycles, how does 97,000 miles on one set of batteries sound?

The lithium-ion battery works on ion movement between the positive and negative electrodes. In theory such a mechanism should work forever, but cycling, elevated temperature and aging decrease the performance over time. Manufacturers take a conservative approach and specify the life of Li-ion in most consumer products as being between 300 and 500 discharge/charge cycles.

Evaluating battery life on counting cycles is not conclusive because a discharge may vary in depth and there are no clearly defined standards of what constitutes a cycle (see BU-501: Basics About Discharging). In lieu of cycle count, some device manufacturers suggest battery replacement on a date stamp, but this method does not take usage into account. A battery may fail within the allotted time due to heavy use or unfavorable temperature conditions; however, most packs last considerably longer than what the stamp indicates.

The performance of a battery is measured in capacity, a leading health indicator. Internal resistance and self-discharge also play roles, but these are less significant in predicting the end of battery life with modern Li-ion.

Figure 1 illustrates the capacity drop of 11 Li-polymer batteries that have been cycled at a Cadex laboratory. The 1,500mAh pouch cells for mobile phones were first charged at a current of 1,500mA (1C) to 4.20V/cell and then allowed to saturate to 0.05C (75mA) as part of the full charge saturation. The batteries were then discharged at 1,500mA to 3.0V/cell, and the cycle was repeated. The expected capacity loss of Li-ion batteries was uniform over the delivered 250 cycles and the batteries performed as expected.
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Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ghoulardi on June 21, 2017, 03:26:15 PM
Isn't it odd how libs claim to be so concerned about the enviornment, yet they wind up doing twice the damage?

One example is electric cars.

Another is windmills.

Libs will tout to the rafters what a great source of renewable energy windmills are, yet they won't mention windmills dirty little secret:

(https://stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/bird-oil-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 21, 2017, 03:43:41 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi on June 21, 2017, 03:26:15 PM
Isn't it odd how libs claim to be so concerned about the enviornment, yet they wind up doing twice the damage?

One example is electric cars.

Another is windmills.

Libs will tout to the rafters what a great source of renewable energy windmills are, yet they won't mention windmills dirty little secret:

(https://stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/bird-oil-meme.jpg)
OOOOHHH That says it all.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ghoulardi on June 21, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 21, 2017, 03:43:41 PM
OOOOHHH That says it all.

Not really. It's just a very small piece in a gigantic jigsaw puzzle.

Both your Tesla post and my windmill post should have people asking: What is all these green measures really doing to the enviornment?

After all, if the envionment is really their concern, they'd be looking at what their measures to protect it are doing to it, wouldn't they?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 21, 2017, 04:50:34 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi on June 21, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
Not really. It's just a very small piece in a gigantic jigsaw puzzle.

Both your Tesla post and my windmill post should have people asking: What is all these green measures really doing to the enviornment?

After all, if the envionment is really their concern, they'd be looking at what their measures to protect it are doing to it, wouldn't they?
I say it's a perfect example because it hits home, that the left could give a rats ass about the environment or God's creations.

They exposed themselves decades ago with their willingness to destroy, arguably the cleanest energy source on the planet, nuclear.
The one source that can provide unlimited, safe and reliable power in the remotest locations on the planet and beyond, increasing output as demand increases, portable enough to power a home or big enough to power an entire nation.
Yes, the left rejected it for no other reason, than it interfered with their long term goal of destroying the nation's ability to produce cheap energy to power our factories that drive our capitalist way of life.

But can you convince brainwashed tools like thew whitechristiangirl? Hell no! They're emotionally involved and refuse any information that may prove their emotional investment was a leftist scam.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: topside on June 21, 2017, 06:48:48 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 21, 2017, 03:43:41 PM
OOOOHHH That says it all.

What are you talking about? This is wind energy creating more jobs - so awesome. Someone has to pick up the dead birds. Maybe grind the dead, rotting birds into baby food - there's another job. But you wouldn't want to risk disease by feeding them to other animals. Goes with the Dim agenda: Hug the trees, save the whales, kill the baby humans.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ghoulardi on June 21, 2017, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 21, 2017, 04:50:34 PM
I say it's a perfect example because it hits home, that the left could give a rats ass about the environment or God's creations.

That's a given. We've know this since Occupy: Wall Street...

http://nypost.com/2011/11/16/conditions-just-offal/

All those leftist enviornmentalist were so concerned about Mother Earth Occupy LA alone left behind 30 tons of trash to be cleaned up on the taxpayer's dime.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-la-30-tons-of-debris-left-behind-at-city-hall-tent-city.html

Where were all those tree huggers then?

Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Hoofer on June 22, 2017, 07:44:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 21, 2017, 04:50:34 PM
I say it's a perfect example because it hits home, that the left could give a rats ass about the environment or God's creations.

They've always been concerned about redistribution of wealth, your wealth. 

Something is wrong with the notion of protecting the planet, but using resources which pollute, to create limited-lifetime vehicles & homes which sort-of-not-pollute.  The logic of this thinking - really does it.   Their electric and hybrid cars, which concentrate all kinds of hazardous elements into a small space, they think they're not causing pollution.... and saving the planet?

Uranium is all around us here, but it's not concentrated into a small space.   Nobody is glowing in the night.  Concentrate it, and it's deadly, like a lithium battery - it will kill you, if exposed to it.   If it's a choice between electrically charged Lithium powered or Gasoline/Diesel powered vehicles, on a safety & efficiency basis, Lithium loses just like uranium does.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2017, 08:44:25 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 22, 2017, 07:44:38 AM
They've always been concerned about redistribution of wealth, your wealth. 

Something is wrong with the notion of protecting the planet, but using resources which pollute, to create limited-lifetime vehicles & homes which sort-of-not-pollute.  The logic of this thinking - really does it.   Their electric and hybrid cars, which concentrate all kinds of hazardous elements into a small space, they think they're not causing pollution.... and saving the planet?

Uranium is all around us here, but it's not concentrated into a small space.   Nobody is glowing in the night.  Concentrate it, and it's deadly, like a lithium battery - it will kill you, if exposed to it.   If it's a choice between electrically charged Lithium powered or Gasoline/Diesel powered vehicles, on a safety & efficiency basis, Lithium loses just like uranium does.
Not to mention, it can have the very same reaction without control, it generates heat when it fails which could burn your house down in the middle of the night, or combust on the highway.
Yeah, I'll take diesel any day.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 22, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2017, 08:44:25 AM
Yeah, I'll take diesel any day.

Particularly if it is the same "bunker fuel" as the Great Lakes freighters use. Instead of about 14-15 parts per million for sulfur content, this low-grade refined petroleum offers a tasty 45,000 PPM. Try your nearest seaport for test amounts!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2017, 12:15:41 PM
Quote from: quiller on June 22, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
Particularly if it is the same "bunker fuel" as the Great Lakes freighters use. Instead of about 14-15 parts per million for sulfur content, this low-grade refined petroleum offers a tasty 45,000 PPM. Try your nearest seaport for test amounts!  :thumbsup:
Yeah, essentially straight crude, smokier than a coal engine and just as powerful.
I had no idea there was any ship left in the US that was allowed to burn it. Pumped straight out of the ground as sweet crude and straight to the freighters.
I wish I could burn it, but all new diesel engines have catalytic systems that would clog as soon as it fired over.
Even new Cats are being forced into production, and older dozers are being forced to retrofit costing a third of what a brand new one goes for.
Title: BAD NEWS FOR WARMIES.
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2017, 03:28:53 PM
BAD NEWS FOR WARMIES. :biggrin:

Sustainable ethanol from carbon dioxide?

(https://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2017/06/170619165409_1_540x360.jpg)

June 19, 2017

Stanford University

A recent discovery could lead to a new, more sustainable way to make ethanol without corn or other crops. This promising technology has three basic components: water, carbon dioxide and electricity delivered through a copper catalyst.

Stanford scientists have designed a copper catalyst that produces ethanol from carbon dioxide and water.
Credit: Mark Shwartz/Stanford University
Most cars and trucks in the United States run on a blend of 90 percent gasoline and 10 percent ethanol, a renewable fuel made primarily from fermented corn. But to produce the 14 billion gallons of ethanol consumed annually by American drivers requires millions of acres of farmland.

A recent discovery by Stanford University scientists could lead to a new, more sustainable way to make ethanol without corn or other crops. This promising technology has three basic components: water, carbon dioxide and electricity delivered through a copper catalyst. The results are published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

"One of our long-range goals is to produce renewable ethanol in a way that doesn't impact the global food supply," said study principal investigator Thomas Jaramillo, an associate professor of chemical engineering at Stanford and of photon science at the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory.

Scientists would like to design copper catalysts that selectively convert carbon dioxide into higher-value chemicals and fuels, like ethanol and propanol, with few or no byproducts. But first they need a clear understanding of how these catalysts actually work. That's where the recent findings come in.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/06/170619165409.htm
Title: Re: BAD NEWS FOR WARMIES.
Post by: Hoofer on June 22, 2017, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2017, 03:28:53 PM
"One of our long-range goals is to produce renewable ethanol in a way that doesn't impact the global food supply," said study principal investigator Thomas Jaramillo, an associate professor of chemical engineering at Stanford and of photon science at the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory.

When the price of Corn Flakes reaches $5 a box, someone finally figures out, "Hey man, we're starving people in poor countries by turning food into fuel!"   I applaud the effort, but the Iowa ethanol lobby won't like it.
Title: Re: BAD NEWS FOR WARMIES.
Post by: walkstall on June 22, 2017, 06:25:58 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 22, 2017, 03:55:04 PM
When the price of Corn Flakes reaches $5 a box, someone finally figures out, "Hey man, we're starving people in poor countries by turning food into fuel!"   I applaud the effort, but the Iowa ethanol lobby won't like it.


Tell someone who cares!   :lol:

Title: Re: BAD NEWS FOR WARMIES.
Post by: Hoofer on June 22, 2017, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 22, 2017, 06:25:58 PM

Tell someone who cares!   :lol:

Government intervention always has a chain reaction of undesired effects.   :lol:

First they mandate ethanol production, the reaction, more corn is grown, less wheat - and it gets subsidized to boot.
Next, the price of corn skyrockets, but not for food, for ethanol production - still a shortage of wheat, creating artificial price increases for both wheat & corn.
Next, it's more difficult to export corn & wheat, the price is artificially too high.
Famines in less developed countries deepen for lack of US exports.

So, they cut off subsidizes for ethanol, and like magic, less corn is planted, more wheat - what was once profitable, no longer is.
Farmers are STUCK with ethanol brewing gear....  hmmm......  not for long!
An explosion in cheap White Lightning, genuine Corn Whiskey!
Franklin Co., Virginia Moonshiner's "Sugar Whiskey" can't compete against the 'real thing', and their families suffer.

The "bottom" falls out of Tennessee Whiskey - even Makers Mark gets as cheap as Mad Dog 20-20

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Like an old Whiskey Barrel rolling down hill - ya can't stop it, government screwed 'em all again!  :tounge:

I blame those Global Warming nuts - they started this!  My story, and I'm stickin' to it!
Title: Re: BAD NEWS FOR WARMIES.
Post by: taxed on June 22, 2017, 08:24:49 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2017, 03:28:53 PM
BAD NEWS FOR WARMIES. :biggrin:

Sustainable ethanol from carbon dioxide?

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June 19, 2017

Stanford University

A recent discovery could lead to a new, more sustainable way to make ethanol without corn or other crops. This promising technology has three basic components: water, carbon dioxide and electricity delivered through a copper catalyst.

Stanford scientists have designed a copper catalyst that produces ethanol from carbon dioxide and water.
Credit: Mark Shwartz/Stanford University
Most cars and trucks in the United States run on a blend of 90 percent gasoline and 10 percent ethanol, a renewable fuel made primarily from fermented corn. But to produce the 14 billion gallons of ethanol consumed annually by American drivers requires millions of acres of farmland.

A recent discovery by Stanford University scientists could lead to a new, more sustainable way to make ethanol without corn or other crops. This promising technology has three basic components: water, carbon dioxide and electricity delivered through a copper catalyst. The results are published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

"One of our long-range goals is to produce renewable ethanol in a way that doesn't impact the global food supply," said study principal investigator Thomas Jaramillo, an associate professor of chemical engineering at Stanford and of photon science at the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory.

Scientists would like to design copper catalysts that selectively convert carbon dioxide into higher-value chemicals and fuels, like ethanol and propanol, with few or no byproducts. But first they need a clear understanding of how these catalysts actually work. That's where the recent findings come in.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/06/170619165409.htm

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Between this and trees, they can't catch a break!!!
Title: Re: BAD NEWS FOR WARMIES.
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2017, 08:29:59 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 22, 2017, 08:24:49 PM
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Between this and trees, they can't catch a break!!!
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Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 22, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
If global warming has been happening constantly for decades shouldn't we be boiled to death by now?
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 22, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 22, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
If global warming has been happening constantly for decades shouldn't we be boiled to death by now?

With b o care you need to make and appointment 4 months out.  Then set in the waiting room for 3 to 4 hours until you name is called.
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Ms.Independence on June 23, 2017, 06:04:16 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 22, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
If global warming has been happening constantly for decades shouldn't we be boiled to death by now?

Theoretically yes; but you forgot about the periods of cooling ... oh wait ... that would mean it's cyclical.    :lol:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: Hoofer on June 23, 2017, 07:00:36 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 22, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
If global warming has been happening constantly for decades shouldn't we be boiled to death by now?

Naaaa.... it's a "dry heat", like the desert.  Get's really hot during the day, and a ... well... stays hot at night ... er, scratch that, but you can rest assured, the scientific consensus is, deserts get hot!
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: walkstall on June 23, 2017, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 23, 2017, 07:00:36 AM
Naaaa.... it's a "dry heat", like the desert.  Get's really hot during the day, and a ... well... stays hot at night ... er, scratch that, but you can rest assured, the scientific consensus is, deserts get hot!


Last I heard 30.000 scientist and suing Al Gore as he will not debate them on GW.    :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Global Warming is HAPPENING. WAKE UP.
Post by: quiller on June 23, 2017, 04:18:44 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 23, 2017, 03:57:36 PM

Last I heard 30.000 scientist and suing Al Gore as he will not debate them on GW.    :lol: :lol: :lol:

The undeserved and palpably inferior sequel to An Inconvenient Truth is rated 2-1/2 stars at Rotten Tomatoes, and debuts this month wherever gullible children can be swindled for their box office money. Film critic Nick Allen at Roger Ebert.com described it as "the Zoolander 2 of the global warming documentaries."

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/an_inconvenient_sequel_truth_to_power/