Forrest Knight's walk through of Microsoft's leaked "Halloween documents"

Started by taxed, April 10, 2021, 03:41:57 AM

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taxed

I'm liking this Forrest Knight guy...

https://conservativehardliner.com/forrest-knights-walk-through-leaked-microsoft-halloween-documents-strategizing-destroy-linux

QuoteLike any government-controlled business, nothing terrifies them more than competition.  In a free market, companies like Microsoft get slaughtered by us little guys.  It's why such companies advocate for laws and regulations that strangles their small business competition in the crib.

This is why I enjoyed Forrest Knight's video.  Microsoft's leaked documents proved how exponentially lame they are, and how terrified they were (and still are) of competition.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

Hoofer

I started with CPM/MPM OS.  Most of my friends *wisely* graduated to UNIX... while I tried SCO-UNIX (and failed).   They got pretty excited about LINUX, I move to MS-DOS, and shortly after, Win 3.1.  Hated it... and every new version since. Even I tried DR. DOS, ran Netware 3.11 & 3.12 for years & *still* prefer it over MS Server.  I did the server memory work around for a decade, till the machines just wouldn't support the TB drives.

For Email, I used Netscape.  As a matter of fact, my email address (blank)@netscape.net still works... but AOL / AIM owns it now.  Remember this lawsuit?
https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/netscape-sues-microsoft-over-browser-wars
"In ruling on the Justice Department's action against Microsoft, the Court of Appeals stated that, "Microsoft undertook a number of anti-competitive actions that seriously reduced the distribution of Navigator." It added that these actions "have a significant effect in preserving [Microsoft's] monopoly; they help keep usage of Navigator below the critical level necessary for Navigator or any other rival to pose a real threat to Microsoft's monopoly."  (that was 1999-2002)

If Ziron works, it's good riddance MS.  I want to *OWN* my software, and source code if possible.

Microsoft has literally SHUT DOWN their older software, on my PCs.  WIN8.0, WIN8.1, MS Streets, being the latest examples - if you go online with them, be careful - keep backups.

IMHO - the better software & OSes, got shafted & run out of business because Microsoft was better and FUD and marketing to businesses that *needed* their software.  If Microsoft couldn't crush the competition, they just absorbed them (VISIO, which we useto call Auto-Cad on Steroids), and then quit developing, so the great software became terrible.   Visio 2010 was the last decent version.  They gave upon Streets & Trips in 2013, best version is 2010, and if you go online - the program is disabled!
Now, with Visio and Office, they're forcing you into MS 365, you just keep paying...!

The worst part of being a small, non-corporate user - you get to be the debugging & beta tester for Microsoft.  They don't roll that out to the corporate level users, until you've suffered through file loss, corruption and more WIN10 updates in the middle of the night.


Question remains:  Will you trust your life to Bill Gates' vaccinations, population control - after realizing his sleazy company, under his leadership, which made him very, very rich - rich enough to squash you like a bug on a windshield, like he did to competitors?  This guy scares me.
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

Hoofer

Quote from: taxed on April 10, 2021, 03:41:57 AM
I'm liking this Forrest Knight guy...

https://conservativehardliner.com/forrest-knights-walk-through-leaked-microsoft-halloween-documents-strategizing-destroy-linux
Question:   Why has Microsoft stopped with WIN-10 release... what's the speculation on the REAL reason?

Did they see the writing on the wall with UNIX / LINUX, as an impossible competitor?
Did their business model indicate 365 was a better cash flow vehicle & potentially theft-proof ?
Did the One-drive as a business model so closely model Fakebook, that they plan on SELLING user information, files & pictures as sort of "secret income?"
Did the devil tell Bill, "enough of that now... I got a globalist plan for you to work on selling."
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

dickfoster

Quote from: Hoofer on April 11, 2021, 04:02:03 PM
I started with CPM/MPM OS.  Most of my friends *wisely* graduated to UNIX... while I tried SCO-UNIX (and failed).   They got pretty excited about LINUX, I move to MS-DOS, and shortly after, Win 3.1.  Hated it... and every new version since. Even I tried DR. DOS, ran Netware 3.11 & 3.12 for years & *still* prefer it over MS Server.  I did the server memory work around for a decade, till the machines just wouldn't support the TB drives.

For Email, I used Netscape.  As a matter of fact, my email address (blank)@netscape.net still works... but AOL / AIM owns it now.  Remember this lawsuit?
https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/netscape-sues-microsoft-over-browser-wars
"In ruling on the Justice Department's action against Microsoft, the Court of Appeals stated that, "Microsoft undertook a number of anti-competitive actions that seriously reduced the distribution of Navigator." It added that these actions "have a significant effect in preserving [Microsoft's] monopoly; they help keep usage of Navigator below the critical level necessary for Navigator or any other rival to pose a real threat to Microsoft's monopoly."  (that was 1999-2002)

If Ziron works, it's good riddance MS.  I want to *OWN* my software, and source code if possible.

Microsoft has literally SHUT DOWN their older software, on my PCs.  WIN8.0, WIN8.1, MS Streets, being the latest examples - if you go online with them, be careful - keep backups.

IMHO - the better software & OSes, got shafted & run out of business because Microsoft was better and FUD and marketing to businesses that *needed* their software.  If Microsoft couldn't crush the competition, they just absorbed them (VISIO, which we useto call Auto-Cad on Steroids), and then quit developing, so the great software became terrible.   Visio 2010 was the last decent version.  They gave upon Streets & Trips in 2013, best version is 2010, and if you go online - the program is disabled!
Now, with Visio and Office, they're forcing you into MS 365, you just keep paying...!

The worst part of being a small, non-corporate user - you get to be the debugging & beta tester for Microsoft.  They don't roll that out to the corporate level users, until you've suffered through file loss, corruption and more WIN10 updates in the middle of the night.


Question remains:  Will you trust your life to Bill Gates' vaccinations, population control - after realizing his sleazy company, under his leadership, which made him very, very rich - rich enough to squash you like a bug on a windshield, like he did to competitors?  This guy scares me.

I think all email addresses last forever. My first was @compuserve.com
BTW i was a fan of DR DOS too. Too bad IBM didn't get off of their asses when they had the chance. All they had to do was get in the car, drive down to Madison Ave and buy a little ad time and Microsoft along with Windows would have been as dead as a DODO and OS/2 would have become the dominant small machine OS of choice. I was a big fan of OS/2. I think the water in Rochester NY is loded with sleeping drugs and dumbass disease. Of course I got my feet wet with CPM as did many. Hell I remember core memory, could read five level paper tape by eye and do octal math in my head.
Crazy but not stupid!

Hoofer

Quote from: dickfoster on April 11, 2021, 05:13:10 PM
I think all email addresses last forever. My first was @compuserve.com
BTW i was a fan of DR DOS too. Too bad IBM didn't get off of their asses when they had the chance. All they had to do was get in the car, drive down to Madison Ave and buy a little ad time and Microsoft along with Windows would have been as dead as a DODO and OS/2 would have become the dominant small machine OS of choice. I was a big fan of OS/2. I think the water in Rochester NY is loded with sleeping drugs and dumbass disease. Of course I got my feet wet with CPM as did many. Hell I remember core memory, could read five level paper tape by eye and do octal math in my head.

Can you *imagine* what we could have done with a GHz machine running everything in 48k of usable memory back then?
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

dickfoster

Quote from: Hoofer on April 14, 2021, 08:48:23 AM
Can you *imagine* what we could have done with a GHz machine running everything in 48k of usable memory back then?
We built logic analysers using 8 bit Intel 8080 procssor based PCs with 256K RAM with a DOS OS back then. If a disassembler was loaded it scrubbed out the memory  space normally used for the built in help code. It's amazing how much can be done in such a small memory space when everything in just is assembly coded. Our entire program fit on a single 360 flopply with tons of room to spare. Our program included all the graphics used to display waveform data which could also be displayed in hexadecimal, octal, binary etc formats.Of couse if a dissasmbler was loaded the raw captured data was put up in assembly code. Of course being small and agile it was fast too.
I don't think the kids graduating today would have the brains or ability to pull it off. I used a print out of our source code to interview prospective  programmers back then. Most of em would take one glance at that pile of printed out assembly code and they'd run for the door. I had one with a PHD last one whole morning before deciding to run. In his haste to escape, he picked the wrong door, ran right into a closet and closed the door behind himself. Now that was funny as hell.
Crazy but not stupid!

Hoofer

I needed room on the 3.5" disk for the BBS messages (forums, whatever), so I'd boot off one disk, which had all the chaining from program to program module, the other floppy drive was just messaging, games & downloads.  3 meg of disk space, that's all we started with.

By the time we pulled the plug, in '96, we had a stack or Seagate, ST-4096 (80meg) drives, screeching away like alien spaceships attacking earth with death rays - 4-5 of them, just sitting there, on the floor.

Wish I could remember the name of that utility that opened / converted files - any kind of disk file... it might be kinda useful today!   I could open literally anything off a disk into 4-5 different formats, ASCII, HEX, OCT, Binary, literally any disk format, as long as the drive could reach & read the sectors.
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

dickfoster

Quote from: Hoofer on April 14, 2021, 02:34:46 PM
I needed room on the 3.5" disk for the BBS messages (forums, whatever), so I'd boot off one disk, which had all the chaining from program to program module, the other floppy drive was just messaging, games & downloads.  3 meg of disk space, that's all we started with.

By the time we pulled the plug, in '96, we had a stack or Seagate, ST-4096 (80meg) drives, screeching away like alien spaceships attacking earth with death rays - 4-5 of them, just sitting there, on the floor.

Wish I could remember the name of that utility that opened / converted files - any kind of disk file... it might be kinda useful today!   I could open literally anything off a disk into 4-5 different formats, ASCII, HEX, OCT, Binary, literally any disk format, as long as the drive could reach & read the sectors.
Yeah I had a couple of utility programs like that but I've forgotten their names. Hexedit or some such. I had another one I liked that I used to do flowcharts for programs and such. You could draw a flowchart on one side of the screen by dragging and dropping boxes and it would write code to draw the flow chart on the other side. So I could write script code or drag and drop boxes to write the script on the other side it was very fast and handy for flowcharting. It was simple so it worked and was fast. KISS!
Crazy but not stupid!

taxed

Have you guys seen that video at the bottom of the article?  It really brought me back.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

dickfoster

Quote from: taxed on April 15, 2021, 12:21:15 AM
Have you guys seen that video at the bottom of the article?  It really brought me back.

I've never had much use for the Linux clowns. I used to have them hounding me constantly for the source code for our Windows drivers that we wrote to support our USB chip and camera chip set used to make USB cameras early on. We made single chip CMOS camera chips early on but could find no one that could or would make an interface for the then new USB buss. Seeing a market opportunity we took the bit in our teeth and made our very own USB chip with our own hardware video compression.  Of course giving out the source code would spilled the beans on own compression stuff.  Developing that chip and software cost us many man hours and mucho dinero but these fools felt they had a right to our stuf for free. Of course that would also have cut our own legs off in the USB camers business which we came to pretty much own as fruits of our labor. My attitude was fuck them and the horse they rode in on. To my knowledge, they never got our code althogh there were several less than sucessful attempts to reverse engineer it. It was not an easy project nor was it cheap to undertake and our guys worked their asses off to get it done. Building custom chips from scratch is not for the faint of heart.
Crazy but not stupid!

Hoofer

Quote from: dickfoster on April 15, 2021, 10:39:39 AM
I've never had much use for the Linux clowns. I used to have them hounding me constantly for the source code for our Windows drivers that we wrote to support our USB chip and camera chip set used to make USB cameras early on. We made single chip CMOS camera chips early on but could find no one that could or would make an interface for the then new USB buss. Seeing a market opportunity we took the bit in our teeth and made our very own USB chip with our own hardware video compression.  Of course giving out the source code would spilled the beans on own compression stuff.  Developing that chip and software cost us many man hours and mucho dinero but these fools felt they had a right to our stuf for free. Of course that would also have cut our own legs off in the USB camers business which we came to pretty much own as fruits of our labor. My attitude was fuck them and the horse they rode in on. To my knowledge, they never got our code althogh there were several less than sucessful attempts to reverse engineer it. It was not an easy project nor was it cheap to undertake and our guys worked their asses off to get it done. Building custom chips from scratch is not for the faint of heart.

China must have figured it out, my cameras & video security system is UNIX based.
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

dickfoster

Quote from: Hoofer on April 15, 2021, 10:53:47 AM
China must have figured it out, my cameras & video security system is UNIX based.

Well as the company was mostly Chineese guys I don't doubt it. However that was way back with VGA cameras and USB 1.0 so it's worthless today.
The company was made up of mainland and Taiwainese chineese folks and was a product of silicon valley. The CEO had escaped mainland China smuggled out in the bottom of a fishing boat. Two of the founders were from mainland China, one having had taken part in Tienimen square and two from Taiwan. Two were from Motorola and two from National Semiconductor. I was the only round-eye technical type in the whole damn company. The friction between China and Taiwan is well documented. As you can imagine their was no love loss between our guys and the communists in mainland china. Take it for what its worth, they worked their asses off, we all did. Startups especially a silicon startup is no cake walk and the risk factor is high. Making CMOS based imagining devices are especially hard and many big companys broke their picks in the effort, Motorola, National Semi, Kodak, Sony, Intel etc etc etc. All said it couldn't be done yet today most of the high volume imaging devices are CMOS and we were the world leader. Our goal was to make video and imaging ubiquidos and today it pretty much is.
Crazy but not stupid!

Hoofer

I really hope this Ziron works.  it it does, I'd love to kiss MS "bye" forever.
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...