Now that I am past the point of wanting to go murder the cretins involved, I did find a beta equivalent to AdBlockPlus which did kill the many LNF ads I have avoided seeing.


My wife (the true geek among us) has posted a query at one of the Mozilla help-sites on the various problems I'm having. Haven't heard back, yet, which is typical for such venues. Even if they did reply, it would be to sneer down at the noob and other nonsense I've run into for about 10 years now.


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As for points raised above..... About half of all Internet users still run XP, and the boxes they use are still perfectly up for the relatively simple stuff required.


I kid you guys but the truth is, by most message board standards you are geeks, not average users like me. Simple, stable, and as fast as I need it to be, Windows XP has served me far better than Win95, 98, 98SE. I am at the ceiling of my comfort-level in learning new things here.


It simply galls me that the Microshaft™ kiddies write such bloatware that you need a faster processor (usually meaning a whole new computer) just to run it. It's an unholy alliance with computer manufacturers, making it MANDATORY to keep buying new units.


Snarl. Not all change is good, nor necessary.  >:(

I still haven't gotten my automatic spell check back, and a couple of other things I use.
If any of haven't upgraded yet, DON'T!!!

Quote from: quiller on April 03, 2011, 02:44:12 AM
Now that I am past the point of wanting to go murder the cretins involved, I did find a beta equivalent to AdBlockPlus which did kill the many LNF ads I have avoided seeing.


My wife (the true geek among us) has posted a query at one of the Mozilla help-sites on the various problems I'm having. Haven't heard back, yet, which is typical for such venues. Even if they did reply, it would be to sneer down at the noob and other nonsense I've run into for about 10 years now.


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As for points raised above..... About half of all Internet users still run XP, and the boxes they use are still perfectly up for the relatively simple stuff required.


I kid you guys but the truth is, by most message board standards you are geeks, not average users like me. Simple, stable, and as fast as I need it to be, Windows XP has served me far better than Win95, 98, 98SE. I am at the ceiling of my comfort-level in learning new things here.


It simply galls me that the Microshaft™ kiddies write such bloatware that you need a faster processor (usually meaning a whole new computer) just to run it. It's an unholy alliance with computer manufacturers, making it MANDATORY to keep buying new units.


Snarl. Not all change is good, nor necessary.  >:(

Hmmmm... My security system does that.

No Geek, but can do small things like turn on the computer.  ;D

I like 98SE the best of all.  XP was my last one and it was ok.  I now running 7 and get updates about evey two weeks or so.  I am getting old in my old age and do not wish to play Geek no more.  LOL   So I will go with Ram and a very fast processor, as I can not think that fast now.   :o ;D   My son is now the Geek man.

Quote from: quiller on April 03, 2011, 02:44:12 AM
Now that I am past the point of wanting to go murder the cretins involved, I did find a beta equivalent to AdBlockPlus which did kill the many LNF ads I have avoided seeing.


My wife (the true geek among us) has posted a query at one of the Mozilla help-sites on the various problems I'm having. Haven't heard back, yet, which is typical for such venues. Even if they did reply, it would be to sneer down at the noob and other nonsense I've run into for about 10 years now.


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As for points raised above..... About half of all Internet users still run XP, and the boxes they use are still perfectly up for the relatively simple stuff required.


I kid you guys but the truth is, by most message board standards you are geeks, not average users like me. Simple, stable, and as fast as I need it to be, Windows XP has served me far better than Win95, 98, 98SE. I am at the ceiling of my comfort-level in learning new things here.


It simply galls me that the Microshaft™ kiddies write such bloatware that you need a faster processor (usually meaning a whole new computer) just to run it. It's an unholy alliance with computer manufacturers, making it MANDATORY to keep buying new units.


Snarl. Not all change is good, nor necessary.  >:(

Bad applications should not hurt other applications.

I don't mind some 14-year-old who can pull off miracles with computers, but do mind 20-something company employees who act age 14 when I ask a question in English and then must do follow-ups because they write back using Geekspeak instead.


I don't own a cell phone, GPS or any of the other modern "must haves." I don't want or need a netbook or Kindle. I still turn pages, not scroll them. I don't want to spend $$$ just to keep my head above water thanks to Microshaft's criminality.


Funny thing. Wasn't until I had to see those ads at LNF that I finally, truly understood just how mercenary he is. If the trolls inviting page-hits don't do it, the huckstering will.

Quote from: quiller on April 03, 2011, 09:30:34 AM
I don't mind some 14-year-old who can pull off miracles with computers, but do mind 20-something company employees who act age 14 when I ask a question in English and then must do follow-ups because they write back using Geekspeak instead.


I don't own a cell phone, GPS or any of the other modern "must haves." I don't want or need a netbook or Kindle. I still turn pages, not scroll them. I don't want to spend $$$ just to keep my head above water thanks to Microshaft's criminality.


Funny thing. Wasn't until I had to see those ads at LNF that I finally, truly understood just how mercenary he is. If the trolls inviting page-hits don't do it, the huckstering will.

I have been Microshaft free for 10 years, so I understand.  I don't have viruses (not possible for them to run on Linux), everything works free, and any Microshaft apps run better on my Ubuntu machine than on Windows, oddly enough.

Microsoft is a mess under the hood.

Quote from: taxed on April 03, 2011, 09:36:47 AM
I have been Microshaft free for 10 years, so I understand.  I don't have viruses (not possible for them to run on Linux), everything works free, and any Microshaft apps run better on my Ubuntu machine than on Windows, oddly enough.

Microsoft is a mess under the hood.

There you geeks go again with that Linux stuff! (*SIGH!*)

Well, boys and girls, it appears we stumbled onto a solution allowing me back into Mozilla. It turned out that IE View Lite 1.3.5 is not compatible with Firefox 3.6.16. I did get AdBlockPlus and NoScript working without issue in regular Mozilla.

This is testing to see if a second blank line gets added between paragraphs (which happened with Chrome). Thus far I can see the QUOTE function coding (whereas with Chrome, I had to settle for fast reply and manual HTML coding if I wanted to quote anything).

Quote from: quiller on April 02, 2011, 11:48:48 PM
Mozilla still hangs up and refuses to work, and now Chrome is showing me ADS, which I hadn't seen for years using Mozilla's NoScript function. (I can't find a Chrome equivalent plug-in to kill ads again.)


The Mozilla 4.0 platform is what happens when geeks get too clever for their own good. I completely uninstalled it, reinstalled the 3.6 prior program, and it's still screwed. Nothing like ensuring there is no going back!


I'd shoot any six of the idiots who worked on this botchware. Then I'd reload and do it again. I am FURIOUS at how this has negatively affected my on-line use.


At LNF, I was apparently stuck on the .INDEX page and couldn't leave that. Finally, I found Chrome has a slightly different spot on the page where the cursor activates a given command. You have to click six or more times in different spots until a page loads. (Talking about microns of distance between these points, but you either get it to work or you keep clicking/searching until it DOES work.)

Adblocker and Flash Block are the Chrome equivalents.

Quote from: quiller on April 03, 2011, 02:44:12 AM
Now that I am past the point of wanting to go murder the cretins involved, I did find a beta equivalent to AdBlockPlus which did kill the many LNF ads I have avoided seeing.


My wife (the true geek among us) has posted a query at one of the Mozilla help-sites on the various problems I'm having. Haven't heard back, yet, which is typical for such venues. Even if they did reply, it would be to sneer down at the noob and other nonsense I've run into for about 10 years now.


==


As for points raised above..... About half of all Internet users still run XP, and the boxes they use are still perfectly up for the relatively simple stuff required.


I kid you guys but the truth is, by most message board standards you are geeks, not average users like me. Simple, stable, and as fast as I need it to be, Windows XP has served me far better than Win95, 98, 98SE. I am at the ceiling of my comfort-level in learning new things here.


It simply galls me that the Microshaft™ kiddies write such bloatware that you need a faster processor (usually meaning a whole new computer) just to run it. It's an unholy alliance with computer manufacturers, making it MANDATORY to keep buying new units.


Snarl. Not all change is good, nor necessary.  >:(

People felt the same way when they were forced to upgrade from 98 SE to XP. I hated XP, because the changeover to the NT kernel screwed up game compatibility. Had to wait for developers to release patches.

Oh, Danny, boy can I go on 'bout this
As Chrome and Mozilla bloom in spring
'Tis here I got my mojo back
And you don't bear more poetry of mine

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naleta says to add she saved the day after thinking about it a while. Open in Safe Mode, disable all plug-ins, then reopen in regular Mozilla to see if it now shows ads and stuff. Then add back the two plug-ins worth having, and it all becomes clear with a warning not to install one plug-in.

I'm no geek, but I am feeling better getting away from Chrome.

Quote from: quiller on April 03, 2011, 04:28:55 PM
Oh, Danny, boy can I go on 'bout this
As Chrome and Mozilla bloom in spring
'Tis here I got my mojo back
And you don't bear more poetry of mine

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naleta says to add she saved the day after thinking about it a while. Open in Safe Mode, disable all plug-ins, then reopen in regular Mozilla to see if it now shows ads and stuff. Then add back the two plug-ins worth having, and it all becomes clear with a warning not to install one plug-in.

I'm no geek, but I am feeling better getting away from Chrome.

That's good, she saved you from a complete OS reinstall.

As to Chrome vs Firefox. I use both. Chrome has a better startup time, is the faster browser, and has better integrated media playback.

Firefox, I use for picture threads and video downloads.

This is crazy guys.

REVERTING BACK TO FIREFOX 3.6

I upgraded to Firefox 4. - I thought it was the worst browser I ever saw.

I change back to Firefox 3.6.


How did I do that?

Well First you go to Control Panel - Programs and Features. Look to see if you have more than one version of Firefox.  You can also look to see what version you have if it doesn't say so in the name.  Click on the TOP VIEW MENU button and scroll down to CHOOSE DETAILS. Click  - Find Version and check the Box and any others boxes you want and click OK.

If you have Firefox 4. Close out the windows.


Go to Start - Type Downloads.  Click on Downloads.

Be sure its in alphabetical order. If not click on name to put it in order. Reversed click it again.

Look for Firefox. You should have Firefox 3.6 setup in the Downloads. If you do you can uninstall Firefox 4. Go back to downloads and click on Setup Firefox 3.6

OR

you can go to Mozilla site below and download Firefox 3.6

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html

My advice - Don't ever delete Windows - Internet Explorer.

Some of the Windows updates will not download properly in other Browsers.

Quote from: Cyborg on June 16, 2011, 08:53:33 PM
REVERTING BACK TO FIREFOX 3.6

I upgraded to Firefox 4. - I thought it was the worst browser I ever saw.

I change back to Firefox 3.6.


How did I do that?

Well First you go to Control Panel - Programs and Features. Look to see if you have more than one version of Firefox.  You can also look to see what version you have if it doesn't say so in the name.  Click on the TOP VIEW MENU button and scroll down to CHOOSE DETAILS. Click  - Find Version and check the Box and any others boxes you want and click OK.

If you have Firefox 4. Close out the windows.


Go to Start - Type Downloads.  Click on Downloads.

Be sure its in alphabetical order. If not click on name to put it in order. Reversed click it again.

Look for Firefox. You should have Firefox 3.6 setup in the Downloads. If you do you can uninstall Firefox 4. Go back to downloads and click on Setup Firefox 3.6

OR

you can go to Mozilla site below and download Firefox 3.6

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html

My advice - Don't ever delete Windows - Internet Explorer.

Some of the Windows updates will not download properly in other Browsers.

Thanks Cyborg!!! 8)
I know what I'm doing tomorrow, I hate the new version...