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Quote from: Danny Borden on March 29, 2011, 06:02:36 PM
It's easier just to upgrade to Windows 7...

It is absolutely not necessary to abandon what works, solely because the criminals running a company have decided to stop supporting an older system.

Microshaft is an ongoing criminal monopoly. XP worked least badly of all prior warez.

Quote from: quiller on March 31, 2011, 09:04:19 AM
It is

It is absolutely not necessary to abandon what works, solely because the criminals running a company have decided to stop supporting an older system.

Microshaft is an ongoing criminal monopoly. XP worked least badly of all prior warez.

XP had its time and now it's obsolete. Eventually you will be forced to upgrade, because the software makers will no longer support your OS.

...and you do have a choice. You can upgrade to Windows 7, go over to Apple, or choose from the various flavors of Linux or BSD.

Quote from: Danny Borden on March 31, 2011, 03:17:48 PM
XP had its time and now it's obsolete. Eventually you will be forced to upgrade, because the software makers will no longer support your OS.

...and you do have a choice. You can upgrade to Windows 7, go over to Apple, or choose from the various flavors of Linux or BSD.

Its true, eventually it just becomes outdated.
I had a friend, I emphasize (had) because he didn't believe me when I told him his 4 thousand dollar computer with Win 95 was too old to get on the web.
When he bought it, the sales guy told him he would never need to buy another computer, that was about ten years prior to my turning it on, I couldn't even get to Microsoft to download the latest drivers, it was that out of date, Java had only just been invented and his pooter didn't have it, and Microsoft requires it, even the Java site wouldn't load.

He thinks I was trying to get his old pooter for a song, I said he couldn't even give it away.
Did I mention it had a real nice 12" monitor? :D

Point is they just move on to a better OS and leave the old architecture behind.

Solar, if that software you have to use you mentioned to me about, if it isn't proprietary, maybe shoot it to me when you get a sec and see if I can get it to run on my linux box?

Spark my memory, I'm drawing a blank.

The software that keeps you on windows...

Quote from: taxed on April 01, 2011, 06:38:55 AM
The software that keeps you on windows...

Aw, I quit using it, I'm moving into full retirement.
I used to pull a full 30% profit in the alternative energy industry, but once the gov got involved, it pushed us smaller guys to the wayside and I'm lucky to pull 12 % profit.
Screw it, it just isn't worth it any longer.

Finally opened the garbageware 4.0 and it instantly killed all bookmarks, and refuses to shut down EXCEPT by Control/Alt/Delete --- EVERY time. This POS has also upset the Restore Points process, and I am unable to go back to what DID work.


So when I downloaded the old version again, it refused to operate (except for ctrl/alt/del). It refuses to recognize old bookmarks. I had to manually enter the CPF addy. I am also 100% unable to browse by list, which means this garbage has KILLED my getting-around.

I strongly recommend NOBODY use this until these children get past their cutesy themes nonsense and address actual transition to a stable program.


Ubuntu doesn't work at all for me.

Quote from: quiller on April 02, 2011, 10:40:13 AM
Finally opened the garbageware 4.0 and it instantly killed all bookmarks, and refuses to shut down EXCEPT by Control/Alt/Delete --- EVERY time. This POS has also upset the Restore Points process, and I am unable to go back to what DID work.


So when I downloaded the old version again, it refused to operate (except for ctrl/alt/del). It refuses to recognize old bookmarks. I had to manually enter the CPF addy. I am also 100% unable to browse by list, which means this garbage has KILLED my getting-around.

I strongly recommend NOBODY use this until these children get past their cutesy themes nonsense and address actual transition to a stable program.


Ubuntu doesn't work at all for me.

Why not, for my info?

Couldn't even get it to go on-line.


I did download Chrome to try and get through this, temporarily, and I found that whereas it works OK here, it is stuck SOLELY on the .INDEX page at LNF (which fortunately is their poli page). I can't navigate past that page.


It took an hour to import my bookmarks from Mozilla to Chrome. I am not making this up. Three separate tries said it could NOT download them, gaving me a "We're embarrassed!" pop-up that FINALLY cleared after an hour. I checked processes running and nothing seems to be running in the background.


With Firefox 3.6.whatever, now (unlike before), I can't even get on-line. The Task Manager is telling me it's waiting for a reply to something, but won't tell me what.

Quote from: quiller on April 02, 2011, 11:24:08 AM
Couldn't even get it to go on-line.


I did download Chrome to try and get through this, temporarily, and I found that whereas it works OK here, it is stuck SOLELY on the .INDEX page at LNF (which fortunately is their poli page). I can't navigate past that page.


It took an hour to import my bookmarks from Mozilla to Chrome. I am not making this up. Three separate tries said it could NOT download them, gaving me a "We're embarrassed!" pop-up that FINALLY cleared after an hour. I checked processes running and nothing seems to be running in the background.


With Firefox 3.6.whatever, now (unlike before), I can't even get on-line. The Task Manager is telling me it's waiting for a reply to something, but won't tell me what.

Well, that is a minor issue.

Quote from: quiller on April 02, 2011, 11:24:08 AM
Couldn't even get it to go on-line.


I did download Chrome to try and get through this, temporarily, and I found that whereas it works OK here, it is stuck SOLELY on the .INDEX page at LNF (which fortunately is their poli page). I can't navigate past that page.


It took an hour to import my bookmarks from Mozilla to Chrome. I am not making this up. Three separate tries said it could NOT download them, gaving me a "We're embarrassed!" pop-up that FINALLY cleared after an hour. I checked processes running and nothing seems to be running in the background.


With Firefox 3.6.whatever, now (unlike before), I can't even get on-line. The Task Manager is telling me it's waiting for a reply to something, but won't tell me what.

Quill, have you considered backing up your information, formatting the hard drive, and reinstalling the OS? Because, it sounds to me like you have registry issues.

Not having either problem you are with FF4 or Chrome on the old laptop of mine.

Quote from: quiller on April 02, 2011, 11:24:08 AM
Couldn't even get it to go on-line.


I did download Chrome to try and get through this, temporarily, and I found that whereas it works OK here, it is stuck SOLELY on the .INDEX page at LNF (which fortunately is their poli page). I can't navigate past that page.


It took an hour to import my bookmarks from Mozilla to Chrome. I am not making this up. Three separate tries said it could NOT download them, gaving me a "We're embarrassed!" pop-up that FINALLY cleared after an hour. I checked processes running and nothing seems to be running in the background.


With Firefox 3.6.whatever, now (unlike before), I can't even get on-line. The Task Manager is telling me it's waiting for a reply to something, but won't tell me what.

It wasn't an ubuntu issue?

Mozilla still hangs up and refuses to work, and now Chrome is showing me ADS, which I hadn't seen for years using Mozilla's NoScript function. (I can't find a Chrome equivalent plug-in to kill ads again.)


The Mozilla 4.0 platform is what happens when geeks get too clever for their own good. I completely uninstalled it, reinstalled the 3.6 prior program, and it's still screwed. Nothing like ensuring there is no going back!


I'd shoot any six of the idiots who worked on this botchware. Then I'd reload and do it again. I am FURIOUS at how this has negatively affected my on-line use.


At LNF, I was apparently stuck on the .INDEX page and couldn't leave that. Finally, I found Chrome has a slightly different spot on the page where the cursor activates a given command. You have to click six or more times in different spots until a page loads. (Talking about microns of distance between these points, but you either get it to work or you keep clicking/searching until it DOES work.)

Quote from: taxed on April 02, 2011, 05:20:39 PM
It wasn't an ubuntu issue?

I could not get Ubuntu to work. It's as worthless to me as Mozilla 4.0.