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Re: Creationism
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2019, 05:13:27 AM »
But, why does fire burn at all and why can't one breathe water?   How does it actually work? 

I looked up Deism.  How is it possible for there to be an uncaused cause at all?   It seems like all creationists says is that there must be a creator and this creator created all.  Nothing beyond that it simply is.  How though?  How?   Again, it simply is.  That's the message I'm getting.  How is it possible for something to exist without an origin? 

Solar, it's like you from my own observations of what you say here take a very simplistic view of life. It's like you'll say that water is simply wet and then don't think about it any further.   For me, this is so beyond frustrating.  I'm not trying to insult you or be an ass to you and if it comes across that way I apologize.
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Let me give you the short answer. LIFE! That's it. You are not supposed to know all the answers by design because it would ruin the adventure, moron!
You were given a gift, yet you question its value, the source of the gift, the motive of the gift giver, even the fact that this realm even exists isn't good enough for you, you spoiled brat!
God made it happen, but you can't be happy with that, you have to know the unanswerable.
Why not pick a subject that's even simpler, like what exists beyond the known universe by infinity times a billion? Wait,, you don't care? Then why are you hung up on shit you are not supposed to know the answer to?

There's an old trick I learned nearly 60 years ago. You get on your knees, raise your hand in the air and lower yourself in a bowing position, much like a Muscum does.
You repeat this up and down motion all the while slowly repeating the phrase "O Wah Ta Nah Siam" you keep doing this until you hear the spirits message speak to you, at which point you blush and get up and walk away.
You're still on the floor screaming and sweating on your knees furiously waving your arms and yelling "Oh What An Ass I Am!!!"

I'll tell you why I no longer ask the questions of a child. Because I know the answer to life. Not the question, because that's just bottom line infinitely stupid, but rather the ultimate refined answer.
Love, that's it, that's all there is to life, find it, experience it, live it, understand all it has to offer and take it in before your time runs out.

You constantly ask stupid complex questions that you could easily answer yourself if you just opened your heart and listened, God is there.
Like I've told you before, I've talked to God on many occasions/Daily and you could too if you just opened up that wall you've surrounded yourself with, out of fear.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I discovered all the answers on my own, but that's not to say the questions are the same for all, because one persons Hell is another's paradise, so their purpose for being here may be entirely different with an entirely different set of answers, but I'd suspect they too are here to learn, be it humility or compassion, only God knows knows their purpose.
Life is way more complicated than man can begin to grasp, but at the same time, if one believes in the existence of a creator, the answer is childlike simplistic.

There is no need for all the answers to life, in the end they are all answered, and you'll quickly discover you wasted your adventure asking stupid innocuous questions, when you should have been out living the answers.
You're still sitting at the starting line pondering how an engine works, why are tires round, why isn't there a key on a race car, why am I so low to the ground, why, why , WHYYYY?
All the while being lapped by all the other drivers. Shut The Fuck Up And Drive you idiot, before the race comes to an end!!!

Now, stop asking me so many stupid fuckin questions! Find the answers yourself, by living life, you damned hermit!
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Re: Creationism
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2019, 08:09:15 AM »
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Let me give you the short answer. LIFE! That's it. You are not supposed to know all the answers by design because it would ruin the adventure, moron!
You were given a gift, yet you question its value, the source of the gift, the motive of the gift giver, even the fact that this realm even exists isn't good enough for you, you spoiled brat!
God made it happen, but you can't be happy with that, you have to know the unanswerable.
Why not pick a subject that's even simpler, like what exists beyond the known universe by infinity times a billion? Wait,, you don't care? Then why are you hung up on shit you are not supposed to know the answer to?

There's an old trick I learned nearly 60 years ago. You get on your knees, raise your hand in the air and lower yourself in a bowing position, much like a Muscum does.
You repeat this up and down motion all the while slowly repeating the phrase "O Wah Ta Nah Siam" you keep doing this until you hear the spirits message speak to you, at which point you blush and get up and walk away.
You're still on the floor screaming and sweating on your knees furiously waving your arms and yelling "Oh What An Ass I Am!!!"

I'll tell you why I no longer ask the questions of a child. Because I know the answer to life. Not the question, because that's just bottom line infinitely stupid, but rather the ultimate refined answer.
Love, that's it, that's all there is to life, find it, experience it, live it, understand all it has to offer and take it in before your time runs out.

You constantly ask stupid complex questions that you could easily answer yourself if you just opened your heart and listened, God is there.
Like I've told you before, I've talked to God on many occasions/Daily and you could too if you just opened up that wall you've surrounded yourself with, out of fear.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I discovered all the answers on my own, but that's not to say the questions are the same for all, because one persons Hell is another's paradise, so their purpose for being here may be entirely different with an entirely different set of answers, but I'd suspect they too are here to learn, be it humility or compassion, only God knows knows their purpose.
Life is way more complicated than man can begin to grasp, but at the same time, if one believes in the existence of a creator, the answer is childlike simplistic.

There is no need for all the answers to life, in the end they are all answered, and you'll quickly discover you wasted your adventure asking stupid innocuous questions, when you should have been out living the answers.
You're still sitting at the starting line pondering how an engine works, why are tires round, why isn't there a key on a race car, why am I so low to the ground, why, why , WHYYYY?
All the while being lapped by all the other drivers. Shut The Fuck Up And Drive you idiot, before the race comes to an end!!!

Now, stop asking me so many stupid fuckin questions! Find the answers yourself, by living life, you damned hermit!



After all this his next post will show that all this went over his head.   

He is enjoying playing little game of WHY, Why, Why? 

The government should put him up in a Holiday Inn.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Creationism
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2019, 08:40:58 AM »
Remember KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid.
He just compared me to the Founders. :biggrin:
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Re: Creationism
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2019, 08:46:09 AM »



After all this his next post will show that all this went over his head.   

He is enjoying playing little game of WHY, Why, Why? 

The government should put him up in a Holiday Inn:lol: :lol: :lol:
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You saw that post, on retirement I take it? :biggrin:
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Re: Creationism
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2019, 09:13:24 AM »
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You saw that post, on retirement I take it? :biggrin:


At my age it's something to think about.   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Creationism
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2019, 11:13:19 AM »
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Let me give you the short answer. LIFE! That's it. You are not supposed to know all the answers by design because it would ruin the adventure, moron!



You were given a gift, yet you question its value, the source of the gift, the motive of the gift giver, even the fact that this realm even exists isn't good enough for you, you spoiled brat!
God made it happen, but you can't be happy with that, you have to know the unanswerable.
Why not pick a subject that's even simpler, like what exists beyond the known universe by infinity times a billion? Wait,, you don't care? Then why are you hung up on shit you are not supposed to know the answer to?

There's an old trick I learned nearly 60 years ago. You get on your knees, raise your hand in the air and lower yourself in a bowing position, much like a Muscum does.
You repeat this up and down motion all the while slowly repeating the phrase "O Wah Ta Nah Siam" you keep doing this until you hear the spirits message speak to you, at which point you blush and get up and walk away.
You're still on the floor screaming and sweating on your knees furiously waving your arms and yelling "Oh What An Ass I Am!!!"

I'll tell you why I no longer ask the questions of a child. Because I know the answer to life. Not the question, because that's just bottom line infinitely stupid, but rather the ultimate refined answer.
Love, that's it, that's all there is to life, find it, experience it, live it, understand all it has to offer and take it in before your time runs out.

You constantly ask stupid complex questions that you could easily answer yourself if you just opened your heart and listened, God is there.
Like I've told you before, I've talked to God on many occasions/Daily and you could too if you just opened up that wall you've surrounded yourself with, out of fear.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I discovered all the answers on my own, but that's not to say the questions are the same for all, because one persons Hell is another's paradise, so their purpose for being here may be entirely different with an entirely different set of answers, but I'd suspect they too are here to learn, be it humility or compassion, only God knows knows their purpose.
Life is way more complicated than man can begin to grasp, but at the same time, if one believes in the existence of a creator, the answer is childlike simplistic.

There is no need for all the answers to life, in the end they are all answered, and you'll quickly discover you wasted your adventure asking stupid innocuous questions, when you should have been out living the answers.
You're still sitting at the starting line pondering how an engine works, why are tires round, why isn't there a key on a race car, why am I so low to the ground, why, why , WHYYYY?
All the while being lapped by all the other drivers. Shut The Fuck Up And Drive you idiot, before the race comes to an end!!!

Now, stop asking me so many stupid fuckin questions! Find the answers yourself, by living life, you damned hermit!

Well Solar, it is God who formed thee in thy mother's womb.  It is God who formed my DNA and my brain structure.   It is God who gave me my nature just like he has given you yours.  If God is perfect and makes no mistakes then am I not the way he intended me to be just like he intended you to be?  Maybe I question life, the giver of life, and its value because that is what God intends for me to do.  Maybe God has given me the yearning to understand.  Did God not tell us to seek and ye shall find and did not God tell us to ask and ye shall receive?  God knows me better then I know myself since he is the one who made me.  To ask why is the path to wisdom and understanding.   It is wisdom, love of all that is good and understanding that frees us from ignorance, darkness, and duplicity.  It is wisdom, love of all that is good and understanding that will bring us out of Babylon and her iniquities.  It is why I ask why.  It is to keep all of us from being deceived by the false prophets. 

You were created in his image as was I Solar and God has many images.

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2019, 11:37:48 AM »
Well Solar, it is God who formed thee in thy mother's womb.  It is God who formed my DNA and my brain structure.   It is God who gave me my nature just like he has given you yours.  If God is perfect and makes no mistakes then am I not the way he intended me to be just like he intended you to be?  Maybe I question life, the giver of life, and its value because that is what God intends for me to do.  Maybe God has given me the yearning to understand.  Did God not tell us to seek and ye shall find and did not God tell us to ask and ye shall receive?  God knows me better then I know myself since he is the one who made me.  To ask why is the path to wisdom and understanding.   It is wisdom, love of all that is good and understanding that frees us from ignorance, darkness, and duplicity.  It is wisdom, love of all that is good and understanding that will bring us out of Babylon and her iniquities.  It is why I ask why.  It is to keep all of us from being deceived by the false prophets. 

You were created in his image as was I Solar and God has many images.
I posted all that, and this is the nonsense reply I receive?
You have a major flaw in your thinking, you're inserting religion.
Go look up Natural Law, then get back to me.
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Re: Creationism
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2019, 08:15:10 PM »
I posted all that, and this is the nonsense reply I receive?
You have a major flaw in your thinking, you're inserting religion.
Go look up Natural Law, then get back to me.

Well, you gave me a bunch of nonsense yourself so I gave you back what you gave me based upon what I understood from it.

A lot of what you say in all of that is abstract and general.  Here is an example.  You said "Love, that's it, that's all there is to life."   What does this even mean exactly?  Love for what? There are different kinds of love. My family and loved ones?  Love for my society?  Love as in friendships? Romantic love? And, there are different ways to display love like acts of service, acts of affection, etc.  I keep telling you that you're talking to an Autistic person.  I think more in concrete and literal terms and it is extremely difficult for me to think in the way you're demanding that I think which is extremely abstract.

Here is another example of something that makes absolutely no sense Solar.  You said and I quote "You constantly ask stupid complex questions that you could easily answer yourself if you just opened your heart and listened, God is there.
Like I've told you before, I've talked to God on many occasions/Daily and you could too if you just opened up that wall you've surrounded yourself with, out of fear."

When you and others give those Autistics like myself meaningless abstract nonsense we literally have difficulty with I'm going to ask the transmitter of the message questions.  Supposedly there is a God.  He made all including myself.  He made me this way.  He should know how I think better then I do.  My factory default model is different then yours.  God wouldn't speak to you in middle english or spanish.  He'd speak to you in a way you'd understood him.  He would speak in a way I understand as well without all of the meaningless, abstract, dribble.  He wouldn't expect me to think in a way outside or use my mind in a way he didn't design it for.  He would show me in concrete and specific ways instead of using abstract terms like natural law or open your heart which to me you're speaking utter gibberish. 

Why?  Why am I not allowed to question this creator or gift giver on anything at all?  I'm a spoiled brat b/c I dare to question.  I dare to understand what is good and why it's good.  Isn't part of Natural law the gift of reason.  I think Hobbes said it was.  This much I get.   When it comes to this creator I'm not expected to use it.  I'm a spoiled brat for using reason to understand the natural world and society and even God himself even though God gave this to me so I can do better and be better? 

You say in your own way there are some things forbidden for me to know and understand.   Again, the creator created me as is.   This includes the inability to even determine in specific and concrete terms what my boundaries are.  What exactly am I allowed to seek knowledge of and what am I forbidden to seek knowledge of? 

All you are doing is giving people a bunch of meaningless, abstract, dribble to an autistic person such as myself. 

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2019, 01:02:43 AM »
Solar, you also claim to talk to God himself on many occasions.  Like a face to face conversation?  You say God is us and we're God giving me your beliefs in a collective. You're saying you had a conversation will all 7 billion people currently on the Earth at the same time.  How is that possible?  Why don't any of us even remember these conversations with you Solar?   Solar you're not even making sense and you're entire message is incoherent? 

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2019, 06:28:09 AM »
Well, you gave me a bunch of nonsense yourself so I gave you back what you gave me based upon what I understood from it.

A lot of what you say in all of that is abstract and general.  Here is an example.  You said "Love, that's it, that's all there is to life."   What does this even mean exactly?  Love for what? There are different kinds of love. My family and loved ones?  Love for my society?  Love as in friendships? Romantic love? And, there are different ways to display love like acts of service, acts of affection, etc.  I keep telling you that you're talking to an Autistic person.  I think more in concrete and literal terms and it is extremely difficult for me to think in the way you're demanding that I think which is extremely abstract.
You can be autistic, but that doesn't excuse stupid.
I explained long ago that falling in love, reciprocating said affection is the key, even loving from afar can fall in the category, as in, "To love lost, is still love", but better explained in "Is It Better to Have Loved and Lost Than Never to Have Loved".
As I stated earlier, God gave us Dogs so even the lonely could understand unconditional love, but the ultimate love is shared with another human being.

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Here is another example of something that makes absolutely no sense Solar.  You said and I quote "You constantly ask stupid complex questions that you could easily answer yourself if you just opened your heart and listened, God is there.
Like I've told you before, I've talked to God on many occasions/Daily and you could too if you just opened up that wall you've surrounded yourself with, out of fear."

When you and others give those Autistics like myself meaningless abstract nonsense we literally have difficulty with I'm going to ask the transmitter of the message questions.  Supposedly there is a God.  He made all including myself.  He made me this way.  He should know how I think better then I do.  My factory default model is different then yours.  God wouldn't speak to you in middle english or spanish.  He'd speak to you in a way you'd understood him.  He would speak in a way I understand as well without all of the meaningless, abstract, dribble.  He wouldn't expect me to think in a way outside or use my mind in a way he didn't design it for.  He would show me in concrete and specific ways instead of using abstract terms like natural law or open your heart which to me you're speaking utter gibberish.
 
Is it even possible for one to hear the voice of, or feel the presence of God if one has no faith?
I've known of Gods presence as far back as I can remember, long before being dragged off to a smelly old musty church, a stench I can remember to this day.
What's worse, is the church was giving me mixed messages contrary to what I knew to be fact, so I totally rejected religion.

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Why?  Why am I not allowed to question this creator or gift giver on anything at all?  I'm a spoiled brat b/c I dare to question.  I dare to understand what is good and why it's good.  Isn't part of Natural law the gift of reason.  I think Hobbes said it was.  This much I get.   When it comes to this creator I'm not expected to use it.  I'm a spoiled brat for using reason to understand the natural world and society and even God himself even though God gave this to me so I can do better and be better?
 
You see it as a curse, and maybe that's the problem.
Like I said, I was born as a red head with out of control energy, a social pariah with foot in mouth disease, a person that simply couldn't slow down long enough to make friends.
But I looked for the positives in my unique disability. Turned out I had drive and energy 10 times that of my peers, an ability to multi task because I saw everything around me taking place, yet never focused on any single event.
How could this possibly be an asset when it alienated me fro people?
I won't go into detail, but in the end, I lived the life of ten people because I could.
What you've been told is a  disability may be the biggest lie ever told by the psychology world. They focus on your inabilities, it's incumbent upon you to see the positives of what actually could be your gift.

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You say in your own way there are some things forbidden for me to know and understand.   Again, the creator created me as is.   This includes the inability to even determine in specific and concrete terms what my boundaries are.  What exactly am I allowed to seek knowledge of and what am I forbidden to seek knowledge of? 
Why are you depending on others for lifes answers?
Like I said, you locked yourself in a protective bubble out of fear, the only way you'll ever get the answers to life, is if you get out and actually live it.

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All you are doing is giving people a bunch of meaningless, abstract, dribble to an autistic person such as myself.

Lose the crutches and stop blaming others for your personal failures. As long as you rely on a computer for lifes answers, you'll be forever asking  questions into a dark and empty hole.
Personal experience will wash away many of your questions and bring on new questions, that's what we call "The growth in being Human".

Bottom-line is, you're just afraid, afraid to try anything. Don't lie, we all see it. That is your biggest problem.
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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2019, 11:01:05 AM »
You can be autistic, but that doesn't excuse stupid.
I explained long ago that falling in love, reciprocating said affection is the key, even loving from afar can fall in the category, as in, "To love lost, is still love", but better explained in "Is It Better to Have Loved and Lost Than Never to Have Loved".
As I stated earlier, God gave us Dogs so even the lonely could understand unconditional love, but the ultimate love is shared with another human being.


I get what you mean about the dog.  Brings me back to my dog named max I ever had when I was a child.  That dog was the smartest and loyalest dog I ever had.  Maybe for that alone I guess life is worth living.
 
Is it even possible for one to hear the voice of, or feel the presence of God if one has no faith?

Supposedly with God, all things are possible.  Right now, I have major doubts.  I did go to church for a while and did what my pastor said when he said "to mediate on all things God."  I did for a while.  I thought and thought.  I asked others questions including yourself and him.  The deeper I went into the principles of Christanity the more I found that it made less and less sense.  It was all one big contradiction.  Instead of getting closer to God I went away.  So, I have doubts.   And, based upon the hypocrisy in many of the churches I guess the whole thing lost it's taste.  I desired to get close to God I wanted to get close but on the day of my Baptism the only thing I got was a good cool down in their pool while everyone else was yipping for joy for the holy spirit.  For example, it makes no sense that Jesus died on the cross  for my sins when he was and is God and God is eternal and forever.  How did he die on the cross?  Stuff like that made me drift away.  My faith was chipped away bit by bit when I followed my pastor's instructions.  Or did I ever have the faith as everyone understood it?  I don't know.

I've known of Gods presence as far back as I can remember, long before being dragged off to a smelly old musty church, a stench I can remember to this day.
What's worse, is the church was giving me mixed messages contrary to what I knew to be fact, so I totally rejected religion.

Well, I've always felt disconnected from everyone and everything no matter what group I hung or associated with from Christians to druggies to jews to whites to blacks to mexicans.  For me, it's like I'm in a movie in which I'm but an observer.  It's always been that way for me.
 
You see it as a curse, and maybe that's the problem.

I do indeed and I don't believe a number of issues are caused by society but caused by my Autism plus my personality and other things about myself.  If  nano-tech or genetic engineering could help me with a number of my issues or make me better I would do it.

Like I said, I was born as a red head with out of control energy, a social pariah with foot in mouth disease, a person that simply couldn't slow down long enough to make friends.
But I looked for the positives in my unique disability. Turned out I had drive and energy 10 times that of my peers, an ability to multi task because I saw everything around me taking place, yet never focused on any single event.
How could this possibly be an asset when it alienated me fro people?

I'm glad you could find the positives.  I tried to do so but alas poor yoric I could not so why not give myself the positives with future genetic engineering or nano-tech?

I won't go into detail, but in the end, I lived the life of ten people because I could.
What you've been told is a  disability may be the biggest lie ever told by the psychology world. They focus on your inabilities, it's incumbent upon you to see the positives of what actually could be your gift.

I will agree they tell a lot of lies but even a broken clock is right twice.


Why are you depending on others for lifes answers?
Like I said, you locked yourself in a protective bubble out of fear, the only way you'll ever get the answers to life, is if you get out and actually live it.

They have different perspectives then I do.  I'm at the end of where I can go with my brain neurology.  For me to go further, I need to grasp their thought processes and what makes them work sort of knowing what makes a computer work.  With nano-tech and genetic engineering I think this is possible.  The brain is like a computer and with nano-tech and genetic engineering we could copy and replicate neurons thereby understanding each other's thought processes.

Lose the crutches and stop blaming others for your personal failures. As long as you rely on a computer for lifes answers, you'll be forever asking  questions into a dark and empty hole.

And, I don't understand why one is not allowed to blame others no matter the case.  And, it is my neurology that is the issue for this lack of understanding. I need to go beyond my neurology.   Your brain and neurology allows you this understanding.  I need that thought process.  With genetic engineering and nano-tech with access to other's using nano-tech and genetic engineering I can access this thought process.

Personal experience will wash away many of your questions and bring on new questions, that's what we call "The growth in being Human".

I don't process my experiences like most ppl so this won't and hasn't worked for me.  Which is why I need access to other's thought processes.

Bottom-line is, you're just afraid, afraid to try anything. Don't lie, we all see it. That is your biggest problem.

It is my lack of knowledge and understanding that is my issue and I don't think the knowledge and understanding really can be explained but experienced and with nano-tech and genetic engineering I can understand other's thought processes and integrate them into my own.

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Re: Creationism
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2019, 11:15:40 AM »
I get what you mean about the dog.  Brings me back to my dog named max I ever had when I was a child.  That dog was the smartest and loyalest dog I ever had.  Maybe for that alone I guess life is worth living.
 
Supposedly with God, all things are possible.  Right now, I have major doubts.  I did go to church for a while and did what my pastor said when he said "to mediate on all things God."  I did for a while.  I thought and thought.  I asked others questions including yourself and him.  The deeper I went into the principles of Christanity the more I found that it made less and less sense.  It was all one big contradiction.  Instead of getting closer to God I went away.  So, I have doubts.   And, based upon the hypocrisy in many of the churches I guess the whole thing lost it's taste.  I desired to get close to God I wanted to get close but on the day of my Baptism the only thing I got was a good cool down in their pool while everyone else was yipping for joy for the holy spirit.  For example, it makes no sense that Jesus died on the cross  for my sins when he was and is God and God is eternal and forever.  How did he die on the cross?  Stuff like that made me drift away.  My faith was chipped away bit by bit when I followed my pastor's instructions.  Or did I ever have the faith as everyone understood it?  I don't know.

Well, I've always felt disconnected from everyone and everything no matter what group I hung or associated with from Christians to druggies to jews to whites to blacks to mexicans.  For me, it's like I'm in a movie in which I'm but an observer.  It's always been that way for me.
 
I do indeed and I don't believe a number of issues are caused by society but caused by my Autism plus my personality and other things about myself.  If  nano-tech or genetic engineering could help me with a number of my issues or make me better I would do it.

I'm glad you could find the positives.  I tried to do so but alas poor yoric I could not so why not give myself the positives with future genetic engineering or nano-tech?

I will agree they tell a lot of lies but even a broken clock is right twice.

They have different perspectives then I do.  I'm at the end of where I can go with my brain neurology.  For me to go further, I need to grasp their thought processes and what makes them work sort of knowing what makes a computer work.  With nano-tech and genetic engineering I think this is possible.  The brain is like a computer and with nano-tech and genetic engineering we could copy and replicate neurons thereby understanding each other's thought processes.

And, I don't understand why one is not allowed to blame others no matter the case.  And, it is my neurology that is the issue for this lack of understanding. I need to go beyond my neurology.   Your brain and neurology allows you this understanding.  I need that thought process.  With genetic engineering and nano-tech with access to other's using nano-tech and genetic engineering I can access this thought process.

It is my lack of knowledge and understanding that is my issue and I don't think the knowledge and understanding really can be explained but experienced and with nano-tech and genetic engineering I can understand other's thought processes and integrate them into my own.
Nano tech? Not gonna happen in your lifetime. Give it up, you have but two options in life, stay in your bubble and remain ignorant, or get out and make mistakes like everyone else did growing up, that's how one learns.
It is obvious that you are your own worst enemy when it comes to experiencing life. You are afraid of what others think of you. So fuckin what!
No one is normal, they all have their own issues, know that going in and you have a shield in your hand.

Quit being a coward and grow up!
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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2019, 08:15:33 PM »
Nano tech? Not gonna happen in your lifetime.

Maybe!  Maybe not!  You're probably right.   

Give it up, you have but two options in life, stay in your bubble and remain ignorant, or get out and make mistakes like everyone else did growing up, that's how one learns.
It is obvious that you are your own worst enemy when it comes to experiencing life. You are afraid of what others think of you. So fuckin what!
No one is normal, they all have their own issues, know that going in and you have a shield in your hand.

Quit being a coward and grow up!

I've done what you suggested.  So has others like myself including Jonathan Mitchell.

https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2009/08/dick-durbins-quick-fix-for-autistic.html
https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2017/11/ive-received-first-social-security.html
https://autismgadfly.blogspot.com/2017/06/gadfly-approved-for-retirement-social.html

It doesn't work.  For the most part, we learn little to nothing and even if we understand what we do wrong in given situations it doesn't mean we can make the corrections necessary.  I know exactly where he is coming from. I had sort of a warehouse type job.  It didn't work.  I was too slow and I still have the email from them years back detailing exactly why they let me go. 

The job before that I was let go as well due to various issues which require another lengthy explanation to get into. 

The real honest and sad truth that I came to this year based upon my experiences, other's experiences, what employers say themselves and the data out there for employment retention for autistic folks and those with disabilities in general is the bulk of those like myself is simply to disabled for employment.  I was with the neurodiversity movement for a while until I saw those even lower functioning then me and even those who were higher functioning then me still had all sorts of problems including pragmatics and executive functioning issues.   I did try like many others before me and many will try after me.  With rare exception most of us like myself end up on SSDI and back into our parents house. 

I did believe in myself for a while and I forced myself to believe in myself even what I did know and understood at the age of 18-19.  I'm always told to follow my instincts and follow my gut.  Well even then my very gut told me and screamed at me to just go on SSDI and not even go to college at all. 

Truth is if I had a do over in my life I would have just went ahead and claimed SSDI and been done with it sooner.  But, I listened to those like yourself surrounding who told me I'm being to negative, quit being hard on yourself, yadda, yadda, yadda.  Solar, you're not the first one who has said all of this to me.  But, in the back of my mind I always knew that something was wrong.  No psychologist told me or convinced me of this.  I came to my own conclusions with the strengths I do have.  No one has thought for me and no leftist has brainwashed me. 

I leave you with Kenny Roger's Song which contradict's Robert Service's stupid poem. 



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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2019, 10:36:29 PM »
Solar, I'm going to give you the truth.  It makes absolutely no fucking sense to tell me to quit blaming others for my failures at the exact same time telling me one is guaranteed nothing in life.   When you tell me to quit blaming others it says I'm the sole person responsible and in control of my outcomes.  If this was surely then there should be a correct way for anyone to go and follow.   Yet, one is guaranteed nothing in life which means there is no algorithm that guarantees anything.  How are the failures solely my fault?  How do I control my own outcomes and how is everything solely my fault and responsibility if one is guaranteed nothing in life?

Supposedly, these two maxims are truths of life.  When looked at together side by side in a systemic way it makes no sense.  It is our society that lives by these two maxims amongst others.  How exactly the captain of my own ship? 

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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2019, 06:12:14 AM »
I read both posts, and all I got was "Life's Not Fair, I quit!"

So not only are you a lazy coward, but a quitter as well.

Go ahead, give up, but if I hear one more whiny question out of you, you're out of here. Because, by your quitting the job of productive member of society, you lose the privilege of participating in this forum.
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