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Title: Orlando Massacre: Far Leftism Kills Again (and again and again and again)
Post by: Late-For-Lunch on June 17, 2016, 01:44:29 PM

I and others have repeatedly pointed out that far-leftism is lethally dangerous and inevitably often leads both directly and indirectly to a great deal of needless suffering, destruction and death.

Florida is a state which permits about 10% of the general population to carry firearms in public. However, the Florida state government also prohibits carrying firearms into any bar as a result of pressure from so-called "gun control" groups. They should more accurately be described as "hoplophobe groups" who are people with a grossly abnormal, highly-exaggerated fear of and aversion to firearms.

I often wonder why there are no "ladder control" groups, "vehicle control" groups or "swimming pool" control groups since innocent people die in far higher numbers in accidents associated with those inanimate objects than in accidents or "collateral damage" incidents with firearms (exponentially more in the case of motor vehicles).

But back to the point, in regard to the Orlando mass murderer, we don't even have to guess why he targeted that bar. Likely he was NOT a homosexual, but rather frequented the bar in order to case it for the attack. Being trained in security, he identified that there was only one armed security officer posted on site outside the bar. The shooter easily circumvented the officer outside and also knew that BECAUSE IT WAS A BAR NOBODY INSIDE WOULD BE ARMED.

Since there were roughly 300 people inside Pulse at the time of the attack, extrapolating out from the general population of armed gun carriers in Florida, had there not been a legal prohibition against firearms inside the Pulse, there would have been around 30 people inside who were armed and been able to return fire when the shooter began his rampage.

I will leave it up to the reader to decide if 30 armed people inside a club when a shooter comes in and starts mowing down people would have potentially made a significant difference in the death toll.

IMO it is likely that the death toll would have been at least cut in half, since reports are that the terrorist reloaded at least once and actually paused in his shooting a couple of times to post on social media, which would have provided ample time for someone to blow his f***in' head off with a handgun or empty a magazine COM.

So once again, the establishment of a "gun free zone" ends up being a glaring neon sign declaring to the terrorist that he would be able to prey at will because it was a "defender-free-zone" dramatically increasing the likelihood of achieving his goal - as high a body count as possible before he himself was killed.

More than ever, I am glad that I carry concealed virtually every time I go out in public, especially when I go to a high risk zone for either violent crime (inner cities) or invasion attack (large theaters, bars).   

My policy is that if I can't carry my pistol without an excessive amount of anxiety at being detected, challenged or arrested, I don't need to go there.

See, in the same sense that a tree which falls in an empty forest makes no sound, so a concealed weapon that is never revealed until and unless it is brandished in response to a capitol felony situation, does not bring arrest or conviction.

Historically DAs do not bring charges for minor carry violations when firearms are brandished or used in response to criminal violence and the outcome is beneficial to the victims and bystanders.



Title: Re: Orlando Massacre: Far Leftism Kills Again (and again and again and again)
Post by: walkstall on June 17, 2016, 03:11:28 PM
Quote from: Late-For-Lunch on June 17, 2016, 01:44:29 PM
I and others have repeatedly pointed out that far-leftism is lethally dangerous and inevitably often leads both directly and indirectly to a great deal of needless suffering, destruction and death.

Florida is a state which permits about 10% of the general population to carry firearms in public. However, the Florida state government also prohibits carrying firearms into any bar as a result of pressure from so-called "gun control" groups. They should more accurately be described as "hoplophobe groups" who are people with a grossly abnormal, highly-exaggerated fear of and aversion to firearms.

I often wonder why there are no "ladder control" groups, "vehicle control" groups or "swimming pool" control groups since innocent people die in far higher numbers in accidents associated with those inanimate objects than in accidents or "collateral damage" incidents with firearms (exponentially more in the case of motor vehicles).

But back to the point, in regard to the Orlando mass murderer, we don't even have to guess why he targeted that bar. Likely he was NOT a homosexual, but rather frequented the bar in order to case it for the attack. Being trained in security, he identified that there was only one armed security officer posted on site outside the bar. The shooter easily circumvented the officer outside and also knew that BECAUSE IT WAS A BAR NOBODY INSIDE WOULD BE ARMED.

Since there were roughly 300 people inside Pulse at the time of the attack, extrapolating out from the general population of armed gun carriers in Florida, had there not been a legal prohibition against firearms inside the Pulse, there would have been around 30 people inside who were armed and been able to return fire when the shooter began his rampage.

I will leave it up to the reader to decide if 30 armed people inside a club when a shooter comes in and starts mowing down people would have potentially made a significant difference in the death toll.

IMO it is likely that the death toll would have been at least cut in half, since reports are that the terrorist reloaded at least once and actually paused in his shooting a couple of times to post on social media, which would have provided ample time for someone to blow his f***in' head off with a handgun or empty a magazine COM.

So once again, the establishment of a "gun free zone" ends up being a glaring neon sign declaring to the terrorist that he would be able to prey at will because it was a "defender-free-zone" dramatically increasing the likelihood of achieving his goal - as high a body count as possible before he himself was killed.

More than ever, I am glad that I carry concealed virtually every time I go out in public, especially when I go to a high risk zone for either violent crime (inner cities) or invasion attack (large theaters, bars).   

My policy is that if I can't carry my pistol without an excessive amount of anxiety at being detected, challenged or arrested, I don't need to go there.

See, in the same sense that a tree which falls in an empty forest makes no sound, so a concealed weapon that is never revealed until and unless it is brandished in response to a capitol felony situation, does not bring arrest or conviction.

Historically DAs do not bring charges for minor carry violations when firearms are brandished or used in response to criminal violence and the outcome is beneficial to the victims and bystanders.


Hmm... That is not what his ex wife said. 
Title: Re: Orlando Massacre: Far Leftism Kills Again (and again and again and again)
Post by: Late-For-Lunch on June 18, 2016, 03:18:59 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 17, 2016, 03:11:28 PM

Hmm... That is not what his ex wife said.

Yes, that's true. I heard an analyst who specializes in terrorists say that even if true, the two are not mutually exclusive. One may be a deranged muzz terrorists and also a homo. In fact, a lot of muzz don't consider the "pitcher" in a homosexual relationship to be a homo, only the "catcher".

Also, since that loony woman is under intense scrutiny by law enforcement, she have motivation to lie to give herself "cover" against accusations of criminal complicity.

It seems strange to me that the shooter apparently texted to her during the attack and that she apparently replied that she "loved him" even when she was aware that he had just armed himself and was very possibly on his way to commit mass murder.

In my experience muzz lie the way normal people say "good morning!" They lie by preference. They lie like rugs . They lie when telling the truth would do just as well because it makes them feel powerful to lie and lie and lie to infidels. With every lie they get away with it's another "f-you!" to Western whites!

If I were emperor, I'd round all of them up and gas 'em and nuke their cities into radioactive skating rinks in the middle of the desert and then drill the oil out from the side. Once they were all exterminated, the planet would have peace and prosperity for ten-thousand years.
Title: Re: Orlando Massacre: Far Leftism Kills Again (and again and again and again)
Post by: Solar on June 18, 2016, 03:42:23 PM
Quote from: Late-For-Lunch on June 18, 2016, 03:18:59 PM
Yes, that's true. I heard an analyst who specializes in terrorists say that even if true, the two are not mutually exclusive. One may be a deranged muzz terrorists and also a homo. In fact, a lot of muzz don't consider the "pitcher" in a homosexual relationship to be a homo, only the "catcher".

Also, since that loony woman is under intense scrutiny by law enforcement, she have motivation to lie to give herself "cover" against accusations of criminal complicity.

It seems strange to me that the shooter apparently texted to her during the attack and that she apparently replied that she "loved him" even when she was aware that he had just armed himself and was very possibly on his way to commit mass murder.

In my experience muzz lie the way normal people say "good morning!" They lie by preference. They lie like rugs . They lie when telling the truth would do just as well because it makes them feel powerful to lie and lie and lie to infidels. With every lie they get away with it's another "f-you!" to Western whites!

If I were emperor, I'd round all of them up and gas 'em and nuke their cities into radioactive skating rinks in the middle of the desert and then drill the oil out from the side. Once they were all exterminated, the planet would have peace and prosperity for ten-thousand years.
That's been my point for decades.
If you're willing to submit, you are not a man. In nature the vanquished becomes the bitch of the vanquisher, just watch any dog fight, the winner always mounts the loser as a display of dominance not to be forgotten, humiliated so as not to challenge again.