duravent stovepipe?

Started by JustKari, November 08, 2012, 09:14:30 AM

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I have been on the lookout for stovepipe, I am a bit  :scared: over the price.  Duravent seems to have good reviews, and the price reflects that, did you guys use duravent or have you had success with another brand?

BTW, I think we decided on the Voglezang Performer stove.

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Quote from: JustKari on November 08, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
I have been on the lookout for stovepipe, I am a bit  :scared: over the price.  Duravent seems to have good reviews, and the price reflects that, did you guys use duravent or have you had success with another brand?

BTW, I think we decided on the Voglezang Performer stove.
Duravent will last you a lifetime and in the long run and will save you on replacing rusted out pipes and even an attic fire.
Though you can save a bit if you do stainless steel pipe leading up to the ceiling where the Duravent takes over.
That's how I did it.

We have the Performer, for the money a good choice, though I don't know if you guys get stuck with the crappy catalytic converter in the ceiling of the stove, we did and I yanked it out to make more room, especially after it started falling out on it's own.
It's just 6 steel tubes in the top of the stove that is supposed to capture gases, just more EPA BS that does nothing to cut pollution.

All in all a good stove for the price, it will more than heat your entire home and you won't have to stoke it a 4:00 AM, just throw a log on when you get up and turn it up and you'll warm the house in no time.

If you don't over heat it quickly, it should last 30 to 40 years without any issues.
Be sure the door is adjusted so the handle is tight when you close it, once adjusted, put a little locktite on the nut inside the door and it shouldn't need adjusting for years, do this after a month of use or after the door gasket has seated.
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Quote from: JustKari on November 08, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
I have been on the lookout for stovepipe, I am a bit  :scared: over the price.  Duravent seems to have good reviews, and the price reflects that, did you guys use duravent or have you had success with another brand?

BTW, I think we decided on the Voglezang Performer stove.

I used Duravent, and I wouldn't go with anything else. It has a lifetime guarantee, and has been shown to easily survive chimney fires, intact.

The price is scary indeed. Although I don't know your design. Here is a site where you can design your setup, then you can shop around for prices. It looks like Northern Tool might have the best price on triple wall chimney sections. I bought the entire kit, and I think it was close to $1000 amost 7 years ago.

http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Chimney/Class-A-Triple-Wall

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Quote from: kramarat on November 08, 2012, 09:55:34 AM
I used Duravent, and I wouldn't go with anything else. It has a lifetime guarantee, and has been shown to easily survive chimney fires, intact.

The price is scary indeed. Although I don't know your design. Here is a site where you can design your setup, then you can shop around for prices. It looks like Northern Tool might have the best price on triple wall chimney sections. I bought the entire kit, and I think it was close to $1000 amost 7 years ago.

http://www.woodlanddirect.com/Chimney/Class-A-Triple-Wall
Yep, it will definitely outlive the house itself.
My durvent is the asbestos filled pipe, probably 40+ years old, I got mine used because I knew it would outlive me even used.
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I saw the kit, and for the length we need, with the roof kit, it came to over $1300 on one site I checked.  You guys installed the pipe and chimney yourselves, was it difficult?  I asked our plumber and he doesn't really do it due to liability.

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Quote from: JustKari on November 08, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
I saw the kit, and for the length we need, with the roof kit, it came to over $1300 on one site I checked.  You guys installed the pipe and chimney yourselves, was it difficult?  I asked our plumber and he doesn't really do it due to liability.
A breeze! :smile:
It just takes patience and four hands, just don't drop it and it will be easy.

Oh, and plumb bob for a straight line to the stove.
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Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 11:22:44 AM
A breeze! :smile:
It just takes patience and four hands, just don't drop it and it will be easy.

So I have to go up there too?  :scared:  Did I mention I'm acraphobic...?

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Quote from: JustKari on November 08, 2012, 11:32:51 AM
So I have to go up there too?  :scared:  Did I mention I'm acraphobic...?


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Quote from: JustKari on November 08, 2012, 11:32:51 AM
So I have to go up there too?  :scared:  Did I mention I'm acraphobic...?
No, but someone will have to delegate. :wink:
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Quote from: JustKari on November 08, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
I saw the kit, and for the length we need, with the roof kit, it came to over $1300 on one site I checked.  You guys installed the pipe and chimney yourselves, was it difficult?  I asked our plumber and he doesn't really do it due to liability.

The hardest part was climbing up on my roof, (2 story house), and cutting the hole. The chimney pipe snaps together with a twist lock system. there is a little bit of screwing in some of the attachments, but I was done with it in a day and ready to burn.

It's expensive, but I look at it this way. I've been using my stove for 7 years and get my propane tank filled once a year for hot water and cooking. My neighbor has forced air propane heat, and spends $500-$600 per month on propane during the winter. :scared:

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Quote from: kramarat on November 08, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
The hardest part was climbing up on my roof, (2 story house), and cutting the hole. The chimney pipe snaps together with a twist lock system. there is a little bit of screwing in some of the attachments, but I was done with it in a day and ready to burn.

It's expensive, but I look at it this way. I've been using my stove for 7 years and get my propane tank filled once a year for hot water and cooking. My neighbor has forced air propane heat, and spends $500-$600 per month on propane during the winter. :scared:
Mine was a breeze, only on story, took about 45 mins.
The nice thing is they really aren't all that heavy, and as you pointed out, lock together easily.

Note to Kari, depending on exposure, you could go with single wall stainless steel in areas that you actually want heat, say if you pass through a bedroom or bathroom in the second floor.
Just be sure it can't be touched, but it could save you quite a bit of money.

Check with the county if you have to call for an inspection, otherwise it's your call.
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Thank you guys, I hasn't thought about inspection, thanks for these heads up on that.

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Quote from: JustKari on November 08, 2012, 12:47:21 PM
Thank you guys, I hasn't thought about inspection, thanks for these heads up on that.

I actually wanted an inspection..............at least a fire code inspection. Nobody in the county knew what I was talking about.

That's why it took me so long. I researched every step, and overkilled everything........including ripping out the walls around where the stove was going to go, installing metal studs where the 2 x 4s were, covering that with concrete board and then tile on the walls and floor.

Burning down the house and possibly killing my family was not an option.

Not to scare you Kari, but safety was one of my primary reasons for buying the Duravent. It's worth the investment, and it will be around longer than you. :wink:

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Quote from: kramarat on November 08, 2012, 12:56:22 PM
I actually wanted an inspection..............at least a fire code inspection. Nobody in the county knew what I was talking about.

That's why it took me so long. I researched every step, and overkilled everything........including ripping out the walls around where the stove was going to go, installing metal studs where the 2 x 4s were, covering that with concrete board and then tile on the walls and floor.

Burning down the house and possibly killing my family was not an option.

Not to scare you Kari, but safety was one of my primary reasons for buying the Duravent. It's worth the investment, and it will be around longer than you. :wink:
Excellent move!
I have cement board behind my stove even though it is within regulation, I just wanted to be safe as well.
The last location where I had a stove was set to guidelines, but I had stoked the stove and left the door cracked to get it going and forgot.
I came back home 4 hours later to find a fire in the wall, had I been another 30 minutes I'd have lost the entire house.

Overkill is always the way to go when fire is concerned.
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Quote from: Solar on November 08, 2012, 01:37:18 PM
Excellent move!
I have cement board behind my stove even though it is within regulation, I just wanted to be safe as well.
The last location where I had a stove was set to guidelines, but I had stoked the stove and left the door cracked to get it going and forgot.
I came back home 4 hours later to find a fire in the wall, had I been another 30 minutes I'd have lost the entire house.

Overkill is always the way to go when fire is concerned.

I'm glad I did it. The ceramic tile behind the stove gets too hot to touch. Before I installed the stove, I put a torch on the tile while I could still get to the back side, also stuffed fiberglass insulation between the metal studs. The tile was almost red hot. The back side of the 1/2" concrete board was still cool to the touch. House fires are bad.