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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2011, 07:11:39 PM »
2/3 of all corn production in the US goes to Ethanol. 2/3.   And the libs try to tell me cereal and other grain based foodstuffs are ridiculously expensive due to shipping costs and the price of gas.  ::)

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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2011, 03:39:33 PM »
There's one gas station nearby that sells non-ethanol laced gasoline.  It costs about a dime more per gallon, but sure does make a difference in the chainsaw, weedeater, lawntractor, etc.

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2011, 04:01:44 PM »
I hope that lasts for ya, Lug. Unfortunately, the tide is still running against sanity when it comes to ethanol. The lame duck Congress approved extending the federal subsidies last December, and now USEPA is pushing to bump ethanol content in our gas from 10% to 15%.  :o

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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2011, 04:48:07 PM »
There's one gas station nearby that sells non-ethanol laced gasoline.  It costs about a dime more per gallon, but sure does make a difference in the chainsaw, weedeater, lawntractor, etc.

Lucky you, the only way you can avoid it in Ca is to buy either air plane fuel or racing fuel, both are over five bucks a gallon.
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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2012, 04:59:54 AM »
I am wondering how the aviation fuel as solution has worked out for Solar, if you were able to obtain it, and how the lead content in the aviation fuel affects your small engines.

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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2012, 05:41:50 AM »
I am wondering how the aviation fuel as solution has worked out for Solar, if you were able to obtain it, and how the lead content in the aviation fuel affects your small engines.
I love it, though it's expensive as Hell, everything runs better, almost like a governor was removed.
As to the lead, I can only assume it helps cushion the valves while increasing the octane level, since there is absolutely no knock in any of my larger engines, like the quad runner, which seems to have gained 30% more power over regular pup gas.
The big upside in using it, is it lasts a lot longer just sitting.
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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2012, 09:36:13 PM »
I love it, though it's expensive as Hell, everything runs better, almost like a governor was removed.
As to the lead, I can only assume it helps cushion the valves while increasing the octane level, since there is absolutely no knock in any of my larger engines, like the quad runner, which seems to have gained 30% more power over regular pup gas.
The big upside in using it, is it lasts a lot longer just sitting.

Curious -- do you just drive to your local airport with a five-gallon gas can and say to the pump-jockey, "Fill 'er up" or are there some hoops to jump through?  While you're there, can you fill your truck's tank? (I'll bet that's a big negatory.)

As an aside, I found a site that lists locations in every state where you can still get gas without ethanol. It's called pure-gas.org.  In my state (Ohio) there are only 25 listings, and almost all of them are marinas, where $5 gas is pretty much the rule.

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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2012, 08:15:20 AM »
Curious -- do you just drive to your local airport with a five-gallon gas can and say to the pump-jockey, "Fill 'er up" or are there some hoops to jump through?  While you're there, can you fill your truck's tank? (I'll bet that's a big negatory.)

As an aside, I found a site that lists locations in every state where you can still get gas without ethanol. It's called pure-gas.org.  In my state (Ohio) there are only 25 listings, and almost all of them are marinas, where $5 gas is pretty much the rule.
They never ask, I think they like the profit.
But there are only four places you can get ethanol free gas in Ca and they charge a few pennies shy of six bucks a gallon, that's higher than AVF.

I have a feeling a lot will change once Hussein is out regarding AVF and their attempt to remove lead from the fuel, planes are a completely different animal.
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2012, 08:27:05 PM »
They never ask, I think they like the profit.
But there are only four places you can get ethanol free gas in Ca and they charge a few pennies shy of six bucks a gallon, that's higher than AVF.

I have a feeling a lot will change once Hussein is out regarding AVF and their attempt to remove lead from the fuel, planes are a completely different animal.

Cool! I think I'll wander over to our local airport and talk to 'em.

That website I posted lists five places in California. Hope you didn't miss one.  :tounge:

Airplanes are a completely different animal because people who fly airplanes want to stay alive. Engine failure at high altitude -- for whatever reason -- ain't funny, and is not likely to promote long life.

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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2012, 05:27:54 AM »
Cool! I think I'll wander over to our local airport and talk to 'em.

That website I posted lists five places in California. Hope you didn't miss one.  :tounge:

Airplanes are a completely different animal because people who fly airplanes want to stay alive. Engine failure at high altitude -- for whatever reason -- ain't funny, and is not likely to promote long life.
Those stations are more than 150 miles away from me, I'll stick to AV fuel.
I wonder how long the=ose companies will be allowed to sell Efree gas, since the state forced and made it law that all fuel has to contain the shit.
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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2012, 07:35:59 PM »
Those stations are more than 150 miles away from me, I'll stick to AV fuel.
I wonder how long the=ose companies will be allowed to sell Efree gas, since the state forced and made it law that all fuel has to contain the shit.
It won't be long. There was a big stink a couple years ago because 100 Octane Avgas was going away. Apparently, general aviation didn't make a large enough portion of the market to justify it's production.

http://www.e0pc.com/SNF10.pdf

On a side note- go to a sporting goods store an buy a gallon of camping gas. It's normal gasoline without all the additives. I use it as a starting fluid when my small engines start getting cranky. It works wonders. At $7 per gallon, it's not for a fillup though.
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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2012, 07:51:54 PM »
It won't be long. There was a big stink a couple years ago because 100 Octane Avgas was going away. Apparently, general aviation didn't make a large enough portion of the market to justify it's production.

http://www.e0pc.com/SNF10.pdf

On a side note- go to a sporting goods store an buy a gallon of camping gas. It's normal gasoline without all the additives. I use it as a starting fluid when my small engines start getting cranky. It works wonders. At $7 per gallon, it's not for a fillup though.
You don't mean White gas, for Coleman lanterns do you?

Coleman fuel has an octane rating of 50 to 55 and a flammability similar to gasoline, it has none of the additives found in modern gasoline and cannot be used as a substitute for gasoline, kerosene or diesel fuel in modern engines.[4] Its high combustion temperature and lack of octane boosting additives like tetra-ethyl lead will destroy engine valves, and its low octane rating would produce knocking.
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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2012, 09:12:26 PM »
You don't mean White gas, for Coleman lanterns do you?

Coleman fuel has an octane rating of 50 to 55 and a flammability similar to gasoline, it has none of the additives found in modern gasoline and cannot be used as a substitute for gasoline, kerosene or diesel fuel in modern engines.[4] Its high combustion temperature and lack of octane boosting additives like tetra-ethyl lead will destroy engine valves, and its low octane rating would produce knocking.


Damn! You've destroyed one of my boyhood legends -- that Coleman white gas could really do crazy things, like make your car's engine explode. We used to think it was mighty powerful stuff. My dad used to warn me about storing it indoors. He'd say things like, "That shit's dynamite!"

I guess I'll just keep on using it -- and not the more enhanced "gas" from the pump -- in my trusty ol' Coleman two-mantle lantern. It sure makes night fishin' a lot more bearable.

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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2012, 06:19:22 AM »
Damn! You've destroyed one of my boyhood legends -- that Coleman white gas could really do crazy things, like make your car's engine explode. We used to think it was mighty powerful stuff. My dad used to warn me about storing it indoors. He'd say things like, "That shit's dynamite!"

I guess I'll just keep on using it -- and not the more enhanced "gas" from the pump -- in my trusty ol' Coleman two-mantle lantern. It sure makes night fishin' a lot more bearable.
Don't despair, Coleman is not what it used to be growing up, we called it White gas, or killer kerosene, it had a higher octane rating back then and was a much more purified version of kerosene.

But I think your use of it is a pretty good idea, in that it's properties have a bit more lubricating ability while boosting the gas a bit.
I'll still give your idea a shot though. :wink:
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Re: Do You Own A Small Engine Like a Chainsaw, Lawnmower, Weedeater?
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2012, 06:00:25 PM »
You don't mean White gas, for Coleman lanterns do you?

Coleman fuel has an octane rating of 50 to 55 and a flammability similar to gasoline, it has none of the additives found in modern gasoline and cannot be used as a substitute for gasoline, kerosene or diesel fuel in modern engines.[4] Its high combustion temperature and lack of octane boosting additives like tetra-ethyl lead will destroy engine valves, and its low octane rating would produce knocking.


Yep! That's the stuff. I used the last of it just recently. I had that can sitting around since '99 and it was still good. I only used it like starter fluid in the lawnmower and rototiller though. I didn't think the octane of the stuff was so low, but then again, it didn't taste like Sunoco 260 either! :toungsmile:
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