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Political Discussion and Debate / Re: Trump Executive Orders etc...
« Last post by walkstall on February 25, 2017, 07:33:58 PM »
There's Solar, Taxed, and then who resizes Solar's images.  :lol:


Hmm...  Nautical Underpants  :lol:
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2018 is lining up to be another holocaust for the democrats and I used the word holocaust simply because the left cannot stop comparing Trump to Hitler.
LOL! The Dim party accidentally locked themselves in the gas chamber.
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How much of it will be in Swahili?

Swahili will be the primary language and English will be the secondary language...this will add another $1Mil to the price tag.
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The party learned nothing from their butchering. Good...

2018 is lining up to be another holocaust for the democrats and I used the word holocaust simply because the left cannot stop comparing Trump to Hitler.
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Perez's first act was to knuckle under and make Ellison his deputy. He has less testicles than the GOP.
The party learned nothing from their butchering. Good...
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Political Discussion and Debate / Re: Trump Executive Orders etc...
« Last post by topside on February 25, 2017, 06:53:20 PM »

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Remember, the original and legitimate purpose of an EO is to give instruction to the members of the executive branch of government, basically telling them how to go about enforcing the laws for which their agency is responsible for.

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So, let's look at EO 13765, titled "Minimizing the Economic Burden of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act Pending Repeal".
This is basically a declaratory statement stating the intent of Trump's administration to seek a repeal of the ACA.  See anything in there which even implies it might try to change the law itself?
Note how this section is worded. It is giving instruction to the Secretary of HHS and others who are given "authority and responsibilities" under ACA to act WITHIN THE LAW ("exercise all authority and discretion available to them") to grant whatever waivers and exemptions the law allows to minimize harmful economic impacts from the ACA and/or harm caused by repealing the ACA.  But nothing there CHANGES how the law is implemented - it just changes the focus from forcing people follow ACA mandates regardless of how it impacts people, to finding as many loopholes as possible to minimize any harmful impacts. This is well within the authority of the executive brach of government, even though it does directly address a law written by the legislative branch. 


You chose a great example as to why this isn't so obvious - there's more to it.

As you well defined, EOs are "basically telling them how to go about enforcing the laws for which their agency is responsible for." In the case of the ACA EO example, you point out that Trump is telling them to treat the ACA laws by finding whatever loopholes they can to mitigate damage to those under that law. So part of your point seems to be that as long as the EO doesn't define or change a law, it's within their rights. But I hope you will agree that what is being done with this EO is a pretty sketchy interpretation of enforcing a law - ACA in this case. Don't get me wrong - I welcome the EO, but believe it's message is counter to enforcing ACA - rather to passively circumvent it which is tantamount to removing the law. The administration's ultimate goal is obviously to repeal or replace ACA and it seems obvious that this EO is a limited step toward that objective.

I actually don't agree with replacing the ACA - let's just remove the law. I much more would enjoy seeing Congress repeals ACA and allows the free market to govern the health insurance industry (among other things) throughout our country. But I doubt that the Reps have the kahunas - there would be popular backlash.

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Perez's first act was to knuckle under and make Ellison his deputy. He has less testicles than the GOP.
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Political Discussion and Debate / Re: Trump Executive Orders etc...
« Last post by Solar on February 25, 2017, 06:12:09 PM »
There's Solar, Taxed, and then who resizes Solar's images.  :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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MSM Distraction News / Re: Video: "Democrats Are Disheartened"
« Last post by quiller on February 25, 2017, 06:02:39 PM »
After you watch this....



...ask yourself how the Muslim loudmouth Keith Ellison will do running their sorry party.

Mea dope-ah.....

Donks chose Tom Perez as next chairman of the DNC. I had guessed wrongly and had predicted Imam Ellison.
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