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Political Discussion and Debate / Re: The Obama BC stuff
« Last post by Ranb on Today at 01:43:21 PM »
That is the only profound thing you have said. I agree with that.
It seems you and I disagree on the meaning of profound also.

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The fact (or at least the manner) you are attacking the "birther" movement is by default defending Obama.
I am most disappointed in the birther movement because they seem to have come to a conclusion prior to gathering evidence.  There are lots of places to find birthers on the internet.  I've been involved in debates on several forums. 

Years ago it was "Release the BC and we will be satisfied".  Well the computer printout that most states use including my home state of MN was released by Obama in 2008.  The birthers were all kinds of upset because they claimed it was not a real birth certificate.  It didn't matter that other states used the same type of form or that it was legally suitable for use in obtaining a passport or any other occasion a BC was required. Give us the "real" BC they said.  I thought that was a big joke.  Of course if Obama ever released a copy of his original BC, the birthers would say that was fake too.

Then it was the fact that Obama Sr was not an American.  Too bad, it only takes one citizen parent for the child to be natural born.  Then the birthers complained that Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was too young to or did not reside in the USA long enough prior to Obama's birth to make him natural born; again a bunch of BS.

Then in 2011 the state of Hawaii caved to pressure and a certified copy of the original BC was obtained by Obama's lawyers and released on the internet.  As predicted the birthers screamed fake.  Even on this forum I get shown a link that is supposed to have a 40 page document proving the BC is a fraud.  Is the document there?  Of course not.  I go to Hayes' website and he does not claim the BC is a fraud.  He also does not provide much detail on his research either.  So this is another dead end.

The fact is there exists no reasonable evidence that Obama was not born in Hawaii.  If you have it, then show it.
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Political Discussion and Debate / Re: The Obama BC stuff
« Last post by Ranb on Today at 01:25:33 PM »
Do you believe Marxist over Americans? Hussein is a confirmed Marxists.
How did you confirm Obama is a Marxist?  I have a low opinion of Marxists.  An American can be any ideology; or did you mean a "true American"?

I find Andrew Breitbart to be believable most of the time.  I did a search for Breitbart on this forum and it seems that the site is used here to support certain claims.  The below quote is from your link.  Are you using Breitbart to claim Obama is a natural born American?
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Andrew Breitbart was never a “Birther,” and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of “Birtherism.” In fact, Andrew believed, as we do, that President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961.

Is Breitbart less believable in your link than elsewhere?
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Sports / Re: Is the Eagles coach an idiot?
« Last post by ldub23 on Today at 01:03:18 PM »
We got Barkley, who is arguably one of the best rookies in the league right now. As for the QB situation, I can't even watch it now. What I say is lose the remaining games this season then get a good pick in the 2019 draft because let's face it, this season is already a wash. Would could pick up someone like Drew Lock or Justin Herbert.

Problem is by the time a rookie can actually  make the giants better Barkley will be going  downhill and they arent exactly setting the world  on fire with him this season.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2018/florida/election_2018_florida_governor

Thats the  only  poll from Rasmussen.

I havent seen any attempt on reps  part to make the  election a  national referendum on the economy.
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FULL TITLE: AMAZING! Over 100,000 RSVPs For Houston Trump Rally With Ted Cruz – Tailgater Set Up Outside to Accommodate Massive Crowd

This is amazing–you won’t see this reported in the mainstream media. :thumbsup:


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/amazing-over-100000-rsvps-for-houston-trump-rally-with-ted-cruz-tailgater-set-up-outside-to-accommodate-massive-crowd/

The crowds Trump draws are amazing. I just hope it is an indication of the results of 11/6.
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While there are many differences between conservatives and the left, imo one huge and obvious one is that the former want to build things and create while the latter prefers to tear things down. We tried to put this into a music video, hope ok:


AC

Well done. Good Luck.
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My point is this is going to be a disaster for reps, similar to 2006. CNN has the socialist  up 12 in FLA. Is it right? If it is then its a total disaster everywhere for  reps. I dont know  if the senate needs 2/3rds to convict Trump on impeachment but the house will impeach him and there are alot  of rep senators who want to be rid  of  him. I still am thinking reps  lose 40-50 house seats and  lose senate seats  in AZ and NV.
I see your problem, you rely on the left for your stats.
Did it ever occur to you to look at other polling?
Still, polls mean nothing because, almost 95% of the time are paid for by leftists.
Note the Yuuuuge disparity in numbers in the polls on the link. I can't stress enough, the left is a disaster everyone is avoiding.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/governor/fl/florida_governor_desantis_vs_gillum-6518.html
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One upset special i have is Scott Taylor  losing in my district for the House. He is up 7 according to a CNU poll but the dems are saturating the airwaves with attacks  on him with very few ads for  Taylor.. The  only good thing about dems winning congress is there MIGHT BE a  backlash against them in 2020 if  its seen as too partisan. However, if 15-20 rep senators join the dems to convict then my guess is a hell of a  lot of Trump voters will kiss the rep party goodbye for  good in 2020. Lets say the rep party  puts  up a Rino like Rubio then by the  time  2020 is done dems could  have 275 house seats and 60+ senate seats. Rep party  had  no chance to win the presidency  in 2016 except  for Trump and there are alot  of reps who want him gone at  any price.
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And we've been kicking ass for the last 8 years with zero subsidence Your point?

My point is this is going to be a disaster for reps, similar to 2006. CNN has the socialist  up 12 in FLA. Is it right? If it is then its a total disaster everywhere for  reps. I dont know  if the senate needs 2/3rds to convict Trump on impeachment but the house will impeach him and there are alot  of rep senators who want to be rid  of  him. I still am thinking reps  lose 40-50 house seats and  lose senate seats  in AZ and NV.
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......................... :popcorn:

FBI Admits Undercover Spies Were Planted Within Trump Campaign


Under James Comey's leadership, the FBI planted undercover spies within the Trump campaign to covertly spy on the then-presidential candidate's officials, a bombshell new court filing has revealed. According to the government disclosed document that was submitted during a lawsuit on Friday, the Federal Bureau of Investigation had used "more than one spy" to infiltrate Donald Trump's campaign in a bid to investigate the president's former advisor, Carter Page.“The FBI has protected information that would identify the identities of other confidential sources who provided information or intelligence to the FBI” along with “information provided by those sources,” wrote the head of the FBI’s Record/Information Dissemination Section, David M. Hardy.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5013785/Show-Temp.pdf

READ MORE: https://neonnettle.com/news/5410-fbi-admits-undercover-spies-were-planted-within-trump-campaign
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