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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #510 on: March 25, 2020, 06:54:53 AM »
Trump will always have RINO's, Dem's and the MSM using road blocks.
True, but I am hoping the next four years will not have coups, impeachments, ect. :thumbup:

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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #511 on: March 25, 2020, 06:55:58 AM »
This is all that was said, we'll have to wait for the details.

British 21-year-old with no pre-existing conditions dies from coronavirus - Sun
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LONDON (Reuters) - A British 21-year-old woman with no pre-existing conditions has died from coronavirus, The Sun newspaper reported.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-victim/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun-idUSKBN21C1XZ
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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #512 on: March 25, 2020, 09:33:49 AM »
This is all that was said, we'll have to wait for the details.

British 21-year-old with no pre-existing conditions dies from coronavirus - Sun
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LONDON (Reuters) - A British 21-year-old woman with no pre-existing conditions has died from coronavirus, The Sun newspaper reported.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-victim/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun-idUSKBN21C1XZ

I'm never sure how to react to these type stories...

I know three people, under 30, who died last year with no underlying root causes...other than ME's saying there must have been some underlying, undetected problem...the guesses were one heart, two vascular...but no conclusion...just a human body that is expected to run non-stop for 80 years, just decided one day it needed a break, or one  of a million plus complex systems broke...these were people with no sicknesses etc...literally simply dropped dead in the middle of their day...

the death by age group graphs should be examined in triaging this as something to be solved/addressed, moreso than the one off story of a person who died...

otherwise none of us would ever step outside our house for fear of getting in a car accident, and no parent would give their child a bath...

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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #513 on: March 25, 2020, 10:46:02 AM »
More Than 700 People Died Overnight In Spain From Coronavirus

A total of 738 people in Spain died from coronavirus-related illnesses in the past 24 hours, the largest increase in fatalities since the disease entered the country.

The number of COVID-19 deaths in Spain soared from 2,696 to 3,434 on Tuesday, according to the country’s health ministry. In total, Spain has registered 47,610 people who have tested positive for the virus — up from just 36,673 earlier on Tuesday.

Spain — which has a population of roughly 46 million — touts the second highest tally of coronavirus-related deaths in the world. Italy, which is reporting a death toll of 6,820, has experienced the most deaths so far.

China has registered slightly over 3,280 deaths since Wednesday morning, the third highest in the world, but the Chinese Communist Party has also faced accusations that it is not accurately reporting its total number of deaths or positive cases.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/25/spain-coronavirus-700-deaths/
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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #514 on: March 25, 2020, 11:49:59 AM »
March 25, 2020, today

CytoSorb® Used to Treat More than 70 Critically-Ill COVID-19 Patients and Specifically Added to Coronavirus Treatment Guidelines in Italy and Panama

"The initial positive results seen with the use of CytoSorb are very encouraging, particularly reversal of shock, improved lung function, and weaning from mechanical ventilation..

".. reduce the length of stay in the ICU (freeing up critically needed beds)

"..within the past week, we have received many unsolicited requests for emergency use from hospitals all over the country and are in discussions with the FDA on how to streamline this process, enable access of the CytoSorb technology to as many U.S. hospitals in the least burdensome way possible..

"..we continue to update BARDA and the U.S. Joint COVID-19 Task Force with our progress.

"our manufacturing facility is currently running 24 hours a day, seven days a week...we are not affected by the current New Jersey lock-down restrictions.

"CytoSorb is approved in the European Union and distributed in 58 countries around the world. 

https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/1096384/CytoSorbents_Working_To_Save_Lives_Logo.html

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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #515 on: March 25, 2020, 12:06:20 PM »
March 25, 2020, today

CytoSorb® Used to Treat More than 70 Critically-Ill COVID-19 Patients and Specifically Added to Coronavirus Treatment Guidelines in Italy and Panama

"The initial positive results seen with the use of CytoSorb are very encouraging, particularly reversal of shock, improved lung function, and weaning from mechanical ventilation..

".. reduce the length of stay in the ICU (freeing up critically needed beds)

"..within the past week, we have received many unsolicited requests for emergency use from hospitals all over the country and are in discussions with the FDA on how to streamline this process, enable access of the CytoSorb technology to as many U.S. hospitals in the least burdensome way possible..

"..we continue to update BARDA and the U.S. Joint COVID-19 Task Force with our progress.

"our manufacturing facility is currently running 24 hours a day, seven days a week...we are not affected by the current New Jersey lock-down restrictions.

"CytoSorb is approved in the European Union and distributed in 58 countries around the world. 

https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/1096384/CytoSorbents_Working_To_Save_Lives_Logo.html
We get it, you have an vested interest in the product, and though it may be helpful in many ways, it is in no way a cure, at best, it buys the patient time.
If it was as wonderful as is being touted in your link, why did so many die in Italy and Spain, both sharing HQ for the corporation?
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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #516 on: March 25, 2020, 02:08:26 PM »
Part 3 - I think....  really liking his explanations.  Toy

Dr. Brent Reifsteck

The biggest reason I agree to talk to these folks whenever I am invited is the same reason I started posting in the first place:
Panic comes from fear.
Fear comes from lack of information or wrong information.
We are being fed too much wrong information from too many folks.  I do not want any of you to feel fearful, and I don’t want you to panic.  We fight fear with information.
We fight Trixie with hand sanitizer.
We don’t fight Coco.  She just thinks we are playing with her, and then she bites us. 
Alright, Today’s numbers:
World total: 415,876 (up 43,313)
World deaths: 18,574 (rate = 4.47%)
USA total: 53,368 (up 11,304)
USA deaths: 698 (rate = 1.31%)
IL total: 1,535 (up 250)
IL deaths: 16 (rate = 1%)
You’ve done a good job hanging in there, class.  I don’t know if you have noticed, but I’m long-winded. 
(I just heard a GASP and a sarcastic “You Don’t SAAAYY!!!” with an eye roll.  You get detention)
Anyway, we have talked a LOT about this Coronavirus.
We talked about how it’s a single-stranded RNA virus with a protein envelope with spikes sticking out (making it look like a crown or “corona”)
We talked about how it invades our cells, replicates, and causes infection.
We talked about how the immune system fights it off, and how much more difficult that is when a large, sudden genetic change happens (Genetic Shift) instead of a slow change over time (Genetic Drift).
We talked about how this large change can happen when a virus we KNOW infects another species of animal (like a pig, bat, or pangolin) then moves back into a human. This makes the virus look, to our bodies, like an entirely new (or “novel”) virus.
We talked about testing & treatment yesterday.
So, what happens next?
Well, a pretty large statistical paper was published about a week ago telling us just who was at highest risk.
Based on the 53,000 patients in the 30 studies that were included in the statistics, here are some details:
Mean age was 49.8 years & 55.5% of the patients were male.
20.2% of folks developed Severe disease (which means that 79.8% of patients were diagnosed, and only had mild to moderate symptoms).
Mortality rate in this analysis was 3.1% which means that in the population of 53,000 patients with Coronavirus in the 30 studies that they combined into this analysis, only 3.1% of them died.  Flip that to survivors:  96.9% survived.
I share this to give you hope.  We will get through this.
Who is most likely to develop severe disease?
If you are MALE, you are 1.35 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you are 50 or older, you are 2.61 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you are 60 or older, you are 9.45 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you are a SMOKER, you are 1.7 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have Chronic Kidney Disease, you are 6 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have COPD, you are 5.3 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have High Blood Pressure, you are 4.5 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have cardiovascular disease, you are 6.75 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have DIABETES, you are 4.4 times more likely to develop severe disease.
Do any of the above categories apply to you? 
Even though we know that most folks don’t progress, and we know that most recover, please do not be a statistic.
Physical distancing “flattens the curve” with the goal of avoiding overwhelming medical resources.
It also protects you individually.
If the above does NOT apply to you… I bet you know and maybe even LOVE someone that fits in one or more categories putting them at higher risk.  You adhere to physical distancing for THEM, and for all of us.
You notice that I am using the term “physical distancing” instead of “social distancing.” I thank Marcie Crowley for pointing out that my friends in the Psychology / Psychiatry fields are very concerned for our mental and emotional well-being during this time, and I totally agree!  Some folks, when they think of distancing socially, they cut themselves off totally, and become isolated.  This illustrates two points:
1. We have to stay connected.  You DESERVE to stay connected!  Connections enhance us.  We have so many more ways to stay connected in our modern world, so use them!
2. This time is different than most anything we have experienced in our lives, and has the potential to be scary.  How much more scary is it if you also feel alone?
So, distance physically to stay safe.  Connect socially to stay well.
Two final questions:  When will this end? & Can I catch it again?
Well, the endpoint of this stage is really hard to see from here.  It will depend on numbers here and numbers elsewhere as well as the severity of disease being experienced by patients everywhere.  Epidemiologists will help us use the numbers we are seeing and interpret them properly to make good decisions.  I could predict right now, and I would likely be wrong.  So, it’s better to wait and see, which is not a super satisfying answer, and I understand that.
Patience my friends… every day gets us a little closer, as long as we are all doing our parts.
As far as catching it again, this is also a “we aren’t sure yet” answer.  Like we discussed before, usually our immune system develops antibodies to protect us from ever getting an infection again.  However, if that infection mutates into something the looks different, you may not be immune any longer.  The good news is that even if the organism mutates, we still have SOME protection, and the next one isn’t as bad. So, we hope for “never again” but might have to settle for “not as bad this time around”. 
That’s enough for today friends.  I leave you with the attached picture and a big “thank you” to Christi Horein Kearns and the Elle Project for her generosity and general awesomeness.  She made this mask for me, and plenty of other masks for others.  You are a selfless and generous person, and I appreciate you!
I appreciate ALL of you friends!  See you tomorrow!

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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #517 on: March 26, 2020, 12:41:22 PM »
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« Reply #518 on: March 26, 2020, 01:02:51 PM »
Chicken Little Admits He was Wrong...

Neil Ferguson, Doctor Behind Coronavirus Doomsday Imperial College Study, Revises Predictions

The doctor behind a U.K. college study that painted a doomsday scenario over the coronavirus pandemic now says he holds a more optimistic view about the spread in the U.K.

Renowned epidemiologist Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College suggested in his model last week the U.S. and the U.K. would have to continue to shut down for 18 months to avoid catastrophic death, but testified in front of the U.K’s Parliamentary select committee on science and technology earlier this week that he expects the country to be able to flatten the curve within 2-3 weeks. The Imperial College predicted that over 500,000 people could die in the U.K., and over two million could die in the U.S., but Ferguson said he now expects the death toll in Britain to be under 20,000, according to NewScientist.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/26/neil-ferguson-coronavirus-imperial-college-doomsday/
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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #519 on: March 26, 2020, 01:11:38 PM »
It ain't over yet...
But then again, with an 80% failure rate on test kits? :rolleyes:

Wuhan Doctors: Up to 10% of ‘Recovered’ Chinese Coronavirus Patients Testing Positive

Up to ten percent of patients who were told they had recovered from the Chinese coronavirus tested positive again after being discharged from hospital, doctors in Wuhan, the origin city of the pandemic, revealed this week.

Researchers around the world are currently scrambling to establish if, once an individual has recovered from the coronavirus, they can still infect others with the disease and if they have developed antibodies that make them immune from further symptoms.

Doctors from the Tongji hospital in Wuhan, where the outbreak began, told the state propaganda network CCTV that despite some patients testing positive again having made a full recovery, there is so far no evidence that they remain infectious.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/26/wuhan-doctors-up-to-10-of-recovered-chinese-coronavirus-patients-testing-positive/ via @BreitbartNews
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« Reply #520 on: March 26, 2020, 07:56:01 PM »
One of the good guys.

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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #521 on: March 27, 2020, 06:10:20 AM »
British Prime Minister Johnson tests positive for virus


LONDON (AP) — British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has tested positive for the new coronavirus, the first leader of a major nation to contract COVID-19, but he insisted Friday that he remains in charge of the U.K.’s response to the outbreak.

Johnson, 55, said he was tested Thursday on the advice of the chief medical officer after showing “mild symptoms, of a temperature and a persistent cough.

“I’ve taken a test, that’s come out positive so I am working from home, I am self-isolating, and that’s entirely the right thing to do,” he said in a video message posted on his Twitter account.

“But be in no doubt that I can continue, thanks to the wizardry of modern technology, to communicate with all my top team to lead the national fightback against coronavirus.”

https://apnews.com/f5ab118e48bafb8f8919e332e0ac0114
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The Spread Of COVID-19
« Reply #522 on: March 27, 2020, 06:10:28 AM »
After watching this short video (1.15) ask yourself what's more troubling.....the virus itself or the amount of info your phone gives off............... :scared:





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« Reply #523 on: March 27, 2020, 06:35:59 AM »
You wanna post this in the covid thread?
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Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
« Reply #524 on: March 27, 2020, 08:17:29 AM »
‘New York Times’ Lies about Facts about Trump and Ventilators

The New York Times has been caught lying about what the Society of Critical Care Medicine has said about the number of ventilators available during this coronavirus scare.

On Wednesday, New York Times correspondent Trip Gabriel tweeted out the paper’s fake news. Gabriel wrote, “There are at most 200k ventilators in the US. One million are expected to be needed. Experts say the Trump administration approach – let states fend for themselves in the market rather than a central authority step in – will doom people to die.”

The tweet referred to the paper’s story that day entitled, “Amid Desperate Need for Ventilators, Calls Grow for Federal Intervention.”

But as former Times reporter Alex Berenson noted, the Times simply lied about what the SCCM said.

Berenson jumped to Twitter with a trenchant thread to show how the paper outright lied.


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1/ "There are at most 200K ventilators in the US. One million are expected to be needed." This horrifying news comes from my old employer @nytimes; it's sourced to the Society of Critical Care Medicine.

Only the SCCM didn't say that. At all. Let's see what it did say...

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There are at most 200k ventilators in the US.  One million are expected to be needed. Experts say the Trump administration approach - let states fend for themselves in the market rather than a central authority step in - will doom people to die.   https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/health/ventilators-coronavirus.html?referringSource=articleShare

nytimes.com/2020/03/25/health/ventilators-coronavirus.html?referringSource=articleShare …


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2/ The number comes from a March 19 SCCM paper:

"[One estimate is that 1/2 of] ICU admissions (960,000) would require ventilatory support. Such projections are gross estimates."

More importantly: this is everyone who may need ventilation OVER THE COURSE OF THE EPIDEMIC...

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3/ In fact, the paper states explicitly "that U.S. hospitals could absorb a maximum of 26,000 to 56,000 additional ventilators at the peak of a national pandemic, as safe use of ventilators requires trained personnel."


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4/ In other words, whatever happens with COVID, if we built a million new ventilators, 950,000 would be furniture.

Added bonus: the paper reports the US already has far more critical care beds per-capita than other nations: 35 per 100,000, compared to 12 in Italy, 7 in the UK...

more... https://thewashingtonsentinel.com/new-york-times-lies-about-facts-about-trump-and-ventilators/
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