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General Category => CCP Virus and Vaccine Bio-weapon => Topic started by: Solar on January 21, 2020, 12:27:10 PM

Title: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
Get ready, the WuFlu is about to knock the Dims Impeachment off the front page. Seriously, this thing is spreading fast.


zerohedge
@zerohedge
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Coronavirus patients have been identified in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen, as well as Taiwan, Japan, Thailand and South Korea. And now, the US
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on January 21, 2020, 02:16:46 PM
I guess this is some serious stuff for the Chinese government to board planes and test passengers.

A video of medics in hazmat suits scanning plane passengers for China's mysterious Wuhan virus is stoking fears of a global epidemic

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-virus-wuhan-outbreak-medics-scan-plane-passengers-2020-1




(https://i.insider.com/5e258f0a62fa815c3f76d4d4?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2020, 02:43:43 PM
Quote from: Bronx on January 21, 2020, 02:16:46 PM
I guess this is some serious stuff for the Chinese government to board planes and test passengers.

A video of medics in hazmat suits scanning plane passengers for China's mysterious Wuhan virus is stoking fears of a global epidemic

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-virus-wuhan-outbreak-medics-scan-plane-passengers-2020-1




(https://i.insider.com/5e258f0a62fa815c3f76d4d4?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
I posted on this video and asked everyone what they would do if this happened in the US, a lot of people literally freaked, because they realized the moment they see this, they're probably gonna get real sick and possibly die. "We're from the govt and we're here to help"..... BS, they're toting your ass off the plane and placing you in quarantine! You probably won't see family again, ever.
Seriously, this is so damn contagious that even these techs came wrapped head to toe to protect themselves.
I've been following this since it first broke a several days back, and I'm shocked how quickly it's spreading and insiders say your odds of survival aren't good.

Let's hope they get a handle on this real soon.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: taxed on January 21, 2020, 02:48:03 PM
Jesus.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2020, 02:51:16 PM
The democrats may have found their third article of impeachment.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2020, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2020, 02:51:16 PM
The democrats may have found their third article of impeachment.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Funny, that's what all the comments said, "Trumps Fault". Do we know the left or what?
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 21, 2020, 05:02:24 PM

They tell us not to worry? Watch the 15 second video clip.

A suspected coronavirus patient is being transported to a hospital in China's Huizhou  #nCoV2019 (via
@jia_HKer
)


https://twitter.com/i/status/1219769338900746241
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on January 21, 2020, 09:38:07 PM
So what happens if it comes here? Can we handle a super bug thats super contagious? Will this wipe out the coasts and leave flyover country to inherit America?
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2020, 03:33:29 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on January 21, 2020, 09:38:07 PM
So what happens if it comes here? Can we handle a super bug thats super contagious? Will this wipe out the coasts and leave flyover country to inherit America?
:biggrin:
It's definitely going to play Hell on big cities. Living close to SF, and the Capitol, that's all they'll be talking about.
Will people die? Sure, just like they do every flu season, probably a lot more with this, but life will go on.

I'm just waiting to see how long it will be before the media drops the Dims Impeachment and focuses on the flu epidemic. :biggrin:
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2020, 06:56:15 AM
Not good news...


Steve Lookner
@lookner
Health official in WA press conference: it takes up to 14 days to show symptoms from China virus
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2020, 11:31:35 AM
Way too late...

@ezracheungtoto
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#BREAKING: In order to fight #WuFlu, Wuhan's bus, metro, ferry and other long-distance transport services will be temporarily suspended starting on January 23 at 10 am, says state media @CCTV. Airport and train stations leaving Wuhan will also close. #WuhanPneumonia

Wuhan. Why are they sick?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH9VUAA3LKU?format=jpg&name=360x360)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH9VAAAlJ8S?format=jpg&name=360x360)
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2020, 11:38:26 AM
The woman took drugs to mask her fever to visit France and boasted about it.

Translated...
Tweet See new Tweets Conversation 83 Angel in Hell 23 @JTPXLBKFcDzbRWX turn Wuhan people successfully entered France with antipyretics There was a Wuhan woman who went to France Use antipyretics to escape security clearance Enjoy a great meal in France with friends! Full of pride in God's operation that escaped the security check! It 's really Twisting Line. When the whole world knows how many servants there are,

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO5HC9IUcAEBbjj?format=jpg&name=medium)

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Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2020, 03:18:30 PM
.Warning, graphic video, kind of a disgusting meal if you ask me.


@RFA_Chinese
reporting that exports are speculating the virus original source came from bats.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1220013985598042112
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: taxed on January 22, 2020, 03:20:13 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 22, 2020, 11:31:35 AM
Way too late...

@ezracheungtoto
· 38m
#BREAKING: In order to fight #WuFlu, Wuhan's bus, metro, ferry and other long-distance transport services will be temporarily suspended starting on January 23 at 10 am, says state media @CCTV. Airport and train stations leaving Wuhan will also close. #WuhanPneumonia

Wuhan. Why are they sick?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH9VUAA3LKU?format=jpg&name=360x360)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH8U4AA0BZF?format=jpg&name=360x360)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH9U4AAZ-T2?format=jpg&name=360x360)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH9VAAAlJ8S?format=jpg&name=360x360)

This is sounding like in the show "Chernobyl", when the Soviets were "dealing" with the meltdown problem.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2020, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: taxed on January 22, 2020, 03:20:13 PM
This is sounding like in the show "Chernobyl", when the Soviets were "dealing" with the meltdown problem.
Yep, China fired a bullet and now they're racing to get ahead of it.
Too late...
Also there's evidence that his virus is already mutating, but they claim there isn't enough evidence. So why did they broach the subject in the first place?
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on January 22, 2020, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 22, 2020, 11:31:35 AM
Way too late...

@ezracheungtoto
· 38m
#BREAKING: In order to fight #WuFlu, Wuhan's bus, metro, ferry and other long-distance transport services will be temporarily suspended starting on January 23 at 10 am, says state media @CCTV. Airport and train stations leaving Wuhan will also close. #WuhanPneumonia

Wuhan. Why are they sick?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH9VUAA3LKU?format=jpg&name=360x360)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH8U4AA0BZF?format=jpg&name=360x360)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH9U4AAZ-T2?format=jpg&name=360x360)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO1frH9VAAAlJ8S?format=jpg&name=360x360)

WTF are they eating so much dog and cat for? Is there a demand for it or something? Have they developed a taste? Why is PETA wasting their time here with stuff like this going on? Prbly just like the environmentalists who focus on the USA and ignore the bigger problem in china.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2020, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on January 22, 2020, 05:08:15 PM
WTF are they eating so much dog and cat for? Is there a demand for it or something? Have they developed a taste? Why is PETA wasting their time here with stuff like this going on? Prbly just like the environmentalists who focus on the USA and ignore the bigger problem in china.
I wish I could post the other pics I came across, but they are too barbaric, these people are backwards, they have zero compassion, they actually eat a lot of things, including baby mice alive and cook other animals alive, or skin them alive.
Karma is coming back on these miserable fucks.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 23, 2020, 06:17:26 AM
This is huge!!!


EHA News
@eha_news
· 2h
#BREAKING

#China cancels all Lunar New Year celebrations due to #CoronavirusOutbreak

-AP
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 23, 2020, 08:46:34 AM
#NEW: Seven cities in #China now under lockdown due to the #Wuhan virus.
- Wuhan
- Huanggang
- Zhijiang
- Ezhou
- Qianjiang
- Chibi
- Xiantao
20,000,000+ citizens in total.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: taxed on January 23, 2020, 10:48:14 AM
https://www.libertynation.com/exclusive-coronavirus-the-facts-you-are-not-being-told/

Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 23, 2020, 10:57:20 AM
#China This is one of the most disturbing news reports about #WuhanPneumonia:
"Central Theater Command assists Wuhan lockdown"[1/3]

CCP Central Military Commission has ordered Central Command to assist the Wuhan lockdown in response to social instability due to panic emotions.

The soldiers were equipped with biological protective gear and they vowed to win the campaign with high morale.

To make Chairman Xi at ease, the soldiers are not afraid of hardships or even death and they will finish the lockdown task with a strong will
.[2/3]
W. B. Yeats
@WBYeats1865
·
27m
Motorized equipment will be put to use. Dongfeng EQ2050 armoured vehicle, armoured personnel carriers and light tanks were all put to use to defend the roadblocks.[3/3]

https://twitter.com/WBYeats1865/status/1220412775165583366
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 23, 2020, 11:00:19 AM
Quote from: taxed on January 23, 2020, 10:48:14 AM
https://www.libertynation.com/exclusive-coronavirus-the-facts-you-are-not-being-told/
This says it all.

"Dr. Guan Yi, who initiated the research into the SARS outbreak in 2003, has been to Wuhan. Upon returning to Hong Kong, he immediately isolated himself, telling Caixin News, that this Coronavirus strain, and the spreading of it, could be ten times more severe than that of SARS."
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 23, 2020, 05:49:40 PM

Wuhan medical staff being infected at faster pace than reported: sources
Fifteen cases of the coronavirus have been officially reported among medical staff in the city, but doctors say there have been other instance.
scmp.com

Watch the video, they have good reason to be scared.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1220487625942786048
Title: Let the conspiracies begin
Post by: Solar on January 23, 2020, 06:03:42 PM
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation & Others Predicted Up To 65 Million Deaths Via Coronavirus – In Simulation Ran 3 Months Ago — Also Funded Group Who Owns Virus Patent

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation co-hosted a pandemic exercise in late 2019 that simulated a global coronavirus outbreak.

They also just happen to fund the group who owns the patent to the deadly virus and are working on a vaccine to solve the crisis.

On June 19, 2015, the UK government-funded Pirbright Institute filed an application for a patent for the live coronavirus, which was approved on Nov 20, 2018.

Suspiciously, a Pirbright Institute "primary funder" is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Snipped/////

Bill And Melinda Gates Behind Global Pandemic Excercise Focusing On Coronavirus

Meanwhile, on Oct. 18, 2019, also before the outbreak, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the World Economic Forum co-hosted an event in NYC where "policymakers, business leaders, and health officials" worked together on a simulated coronavirus outbreak.

Titled the "Event 201" pandemic, the high-level pandemic exercise "dropped participants right in the midst of an uncontrolled coronavirus outbreak that was spreading like wildfire out of South America to wreak worldwide havoc."

"In the simulation, CAPS (the coronavirus) resulted in a death toll of 65 million people within 18 months," according to John Hopkins University.

A video highlight reel from the event shows fictional newscasters from "GNN" discuss how the hypothetical immune-resistant virus (nicknamed CAPS) was crippling trade and travel, sending the global economy into freefall.

It just so happens that a professor from Imperial College London recently warned the coronavirus has the same kill rate as the Spanish flu, which claimed the lives of 20-50 million people in 1918.

https://www.newswars.com/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation-others-predicted-up-to-65-million-deaths-via-coronavirus-in-simulation-ran-3-months-ago/

Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 24, 2020, 04:01:52 PM
Here's a live map of the outbreak. Keep checking back as the numbers continue to grow.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: carolina73 on January 24, 2020, 09:28:28 PM
They think it is coming from snakes but snakes also eat many small animals. If you fly internationally or out of Western US cities  then it is not uncommon to see Asians wearing medical masks.
It really is not a bad idea.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2020, 04:25:56 AM
Quote from: carolina73 on January 24, 2020, 09:28:28 PM
They think it is coming from snakes but snakes also eat many small animals. If you fly internationally or out of Western US cities  then it is not uncommon to see Asians wearing medical masks.
It really is not a bad idea.

Totally agree! See it in China town regularly, an etiquette I'd like to see adopted here.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2020, 06:23:09 AM
Watch this video, nurse in China tells you what's really going on. The deaths being reported are a mere fraction of what is really taking place.

Voice message from a medical staff in #Wuhan. "There are more than 100,000 infected. The government provides no medical supplies... People are dying right in front of our eyes...Don't EVER trust the government. We are on our own."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1220902399528718336
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on January 25, 2020, 08:57:24 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2020, 06:23:09 AM
Watch this video, nurse in China tells you what's really going on. The deaths being reported are a mere fraction of what is really taking place.

Voice message from a medical staff in #Wuhan. "There are more than 100,000 infected. The government provides no medical supplies... People are dying right in front of our eyes...Don't EVER trust the government. We are on our own."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1220902399528718336

One thing that is consistent about communist countries - shortages of critical needs.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2020, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 25, 2020, 08:57:24 AM
One thing that is consistent about communist countries - shortages of critical needs.
They spent all their money on high speed rail and infrastructure and neglected their health care.
Now they''re scrambling to build two new hospitals in One Week? Cement doesn't even set up completely in a week, better be one floor hospitals....
Title: Patient Zero Never Ate At Wuhan Fish Market.
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2020, 02:49:28 PM
OK, this is getting weird now... Did it escape the lab?

No link with seafood market in first case of China coronavirus, Chinese scientists revealed

Researchers into initial cases find first person with symptoms had no contact with market where disease is believed to have originated
Call for preparedness against airborne transmission, including fitted respirators and other personal protective equipment

The first person known to have been infected by the Wuhan coronavirus had never visited the city's seafood market – regarded as the epicentre of the outbreak – according to Chinese researchers, who also called for extra precautions against airborne transmission of the disease between humans.
The researchers, seven of whom work at Wuhan's Jinyintan hospital, designated for patients with the illness, revealed on Friday in The Lancet medical journal that symptoms of the new disease were first reported on December 1 – much earlier than the Wuhan government's initial announcement on December 31 of 27 cases of the pneumonia-like infection.
According to the report, the first patient had no exposure to the Huanan seafood market which was shut down on January 1 over fears – later confirmed – that the new virus was linked to its trade in wild animals. The researchers added that none of the patient's family had developed fever or any respiratory symptoms. There was also no epidemiological link between the first patient and the later cases, they found.
The researchers analysed data from 41 patients with confirmed infections who had showed an onset of symptoms up to January 2. Six of those patients died, putting the fatality rate of the group at 15 per cent. The researchers noted that clinical presentations of the patients greatly resembled severe acute respiratory syndrome.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047636/doctors-warn-china-coronavirus-carriers-may-show-no-symptoms
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on January 25, 2020, 04:11:15 PM
When the President of China calls accelerating spread of the Coronavirus a "grave situation" then I believe they no answers to battle or contain this deadly outbreak.



Xi Jinping: Accelerating Spread of Coronavirus 'Grave Situation' — Suspends Tourist Travel Abroad

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2020/01/25/xi-jinping-accelerating-spread-of-coronavirus-grave-situation-suspends-tourist-travel-abroad/
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on January 25, 2020, 04:26:54 PM
I give these medical folks a lot of credit because I couldn't do it.....My father always told me "if you live twice it's okay but you only live once".

Wuhan doctor dies...



https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1220979618636845056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1220979618636845056&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.citizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fwuhan-doctor-dies-after-contracting-virus-from-patient%2F
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 25, 2020, 05:12:18 PM
Quote from: Bronx on January 25, 2020, 04:26:54 PM
I give these medical folks a lot of credit because I couldn't do it.....My father always told me "if you live twice it's okay but you only live once".

Wuhan doctor dies...



https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1220979618636845056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1220979618636845056&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.citizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fwuhan-doctor-dies-after-contracting-virus-from-patient%2F
Check it out. Taxed created a new Breaking News section and I've been flooding it with the latest news, long before the media picks it up.
Left side column, or if you're on mobile phone, it's the first thing that loads.

https://conservativehardliner.com/
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on January 25, 2020, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2020, 05:12:18 PM
Check it out. Taxed created a new Breaking News section and I've been flooding it with the latest news, long before the media picks it up.
Left side column, or if you're on mobile phone, it's the first thing that loads.

https://conservativehardliner.com/

Nice job taxed!
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: taxed on January 25, 2020, 09:54:07 PM
Quote from: walkstall on January 25, 2020, 06:00:31 PM
Nice job taxed!

Thanks!!!  It's working pretty good so far....
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 26, 2020, 05:27:36 AM

conservativepoliticalforum.com

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7m
#ch1 Flight Attendant Infected, Contagious Up To Two Weeks Before Symptomatic Signs
Think About That For a Moment...

Quote Tweet

ISCResearch
@ISCResearch
· 1h
Austria: The first suspected case of infection with the #coronavirus has now been reported in #Vienna.

A flight attendant was brought to the hospital with flu symptoms.

#CoronavirusOutbreak
#WuhanCoronavirus
#Austria #nCoV2019

conservativepoliticalforum.com

14m
#ch Wuhan Nurse. 90 thousand Dead Or Infected?
Quote Tweet

mtmsxx
@mtmsx5
· 1h
I found this leaked video about this virus. #WuhanCoronavirus #CoronavirusOutbreak #coronavirus #WuhanVirus #VirusCorona #nCoV2019

Video with subtitles...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1221396039355121670
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 26, 2020, 11:48:57 AM
New Preliminary Study out says RO could be as high as 5.47.
RO means for every sick person, an 5.47 RO means 5.47 people can be affected.
Right now WHO claims are around 2.5 RO.

Abstract
Backgrounds: There has been a novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) pneumonia outbreak in China since December 2019, and which spreads internationally. This is the first study to quantify the basic reproduction number, R0, of 2019-nCoV in the early phase of the outbreak. Methods: Accounting for the impact of the variations in disease reporting rate, we modelled the epidemic curve of 2019-nCoV cases time series, in mainland China from January 10 to January 21, 2020, through the exponential growth. With the estimated intrinsic growth rate (γ), we estimated R0 by using the serial intervals (SI) of two other well-known coronavirus diseases, MERS and SARS, as approximations for the true unknown SI. Findings: The early outbreak data largely follows the exponential growth. We estimated that the mean R0 ranges from 3.30 (95%CI: 2.73-3.96) to 5.47 (95%CI: 4.16-7.10) associated with 0-fold to 2-fold increase in the reporting rate. With rising report rate, the mean R0 is likely to be below 5 but above 3. Conclusion: The mean estimate of R0 for the 2019-nCoV ranges from 3.30 (95%CI: 2.73-3.96) to 5.47 (95%CI: 4.16-7.10), and significantly larger than 1. Our findings indicate the potential of 2019-nCoV to cause outbreaks.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.916395v1
Title: Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program
Post by: Solar on January 26, 2020, 04:38:08 PM
If you've been following our Breaking News on conservativehardliner.com, you know I broached this possibility earlier.
Here's the thing, how can you patent something you only discovered? By mutating it, then you own it, and guess what? Bill Gates group own the patent on the Corona virus, the very one sickening the planet as we speak.
Taxed and I talked about this, we don't think it was deliberate, but somehow it escaped the lab in Wuhan, probably by a lowly employee mixing up hazardous wast with regular trash. I don't really know, just speculating.
One other point, China admitted the found patient zero, something you would know if you've been following hardliner, they said the patient had never visited the fresh water market..
Point is, this did not occur naturally. Let the conspiracies begin!

Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program

The deadly animal virus epidemic spreading globally may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory linked to China's covert biological weapons program, according to an Israeli biological warfare expert.

Radio Free Asia this week rebroadcast a local Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China's most advanced virus research laboratory known the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Radio Free Asia reported.

The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/24/virus-hit-wuhan-has-two-laboratories-linked-chines/

https://conservativehardliner.com
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 27, 2020, 08:39:50 AM
Oh man, I forgot the most important part of my point in the last post.
We know that Bill Gates is involved with the group who holds the patent on the Corona virus, Right? We also know that to place a patent on something that occurs naturally in the environment, one needs to genetically alter it in order to claim a patent.

Think about that. A weapons lab half run by the communist party China and half subsidized by private investors, one of which buys into the theory that man is destroying the planet via over population (say Hello Bill Gates).

You do the math. I'm still not saying this was deliberate, but the fact that they were possibly working on a doomsday virus should stop anyone in their tracks and question WTF is going on in China!
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 31, 2020, 02:53:31 PM
It was weaponized!

Now, a respected epidemiologist who recently caught flack for claiming in a twitter threat that the virus appeared to be much more contagious than initially believed is pointing out irregularities in the virus's genome that suggests it might have been genetically engineered for the purposes of a weapon, and not just any weapon but the deadliest one of all.

In "Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag", Indian researchers are baffled by segments of the virus's RNA that have no relation to other coronaviruses like SARS, and instead appear to be closer to HIV. The virus even responds to treatment by HIV medications.

(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/HIV%20corona.jpg?itok=BNVvk8hi)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 31, 2020, 02:58:52 PM
U.S. declares public health emergency over coronavirus
Starting Sunday, passengers flying to the U.S. from Hubei province in China will be placed under a 14-day quarantine.

Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar on Friday declared a public health emergency over the new coronavirus.

Starting Sunday at 5 p.m. ET, all passengers on flights to the United States who have been in Hubei province in China in the last 14 days will be subject to up to 14 days of quarantine. The city of Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, is located in Hubei.

Any U.S. citizen who has been in the rest of mainland China will be actively screened at one of seven airports for risk and evidence of symptoms. If no symptoms are detected, the individuals will be allowed to complete their travel home and will be monitored by local health departments in isolation at home.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/u-s-declares-public-health-emergency-over-coronavirus-n1127856
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 01, 2020, 07:09:38 PM
Coronavirus whistleblower punished for 'spreading rumors' now infected with disease

A Chinese doctor who warned about the coronavirus in December and was reprimanded by Chinese authorities for "spreading rumors" has been infected by the illness.

"After I sent the message, the police found me and made me sign an official letter of criticism," Li recounted on Saturday.

Part of the document that Li was forced to sign as punishment read, "We solemnly warn you: If you keep being stubborn, with such impertinence, and continue this illegal activity, you will be brought to justice."

U.S. airlines shuttered travel to and from China after the World Health Organization and the Trump administration both declared the outbreak a "public health emergency." Sen. Tom Cotton called for an immediate travel ban with China and noted that Wuhan is "China's only biosafety level four super laboratory that works with the world's most deadly pathogens to include, yes, coronavirus."


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPsc_FqUEAAcB5x?format=jpg&name=small)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-whistleblower-punished-for-spreading-rumors-now-infected-with-disease
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2020, 07:36:43 AM
I want to point something out about the reporting from China. Their "official stats" :rolleyes: Claim a certain amount of deaths, then it claims a small portion of recovery victims, but in none if these releases do they say, Recovery From what?
Are these so called recoveries actually from the virus, or just the flu? No one has seen one of these Corona Virus patients come forth and say they actually recovered, all we have is CCP' dubious word that there's been a recovery.
I'm beginning to doubt these claims. Sure, there may be some, but they got the best care in the world, something hundreds of thousands of patients aren't getting in china.

The people know if they are sent home to recover, they are given a death sentence. I've been following this in depth long before the media even broached the topic, and I am not reading conspiracy sites, only searching out actual facts.
I'm telling you now, this is no ordinary virus, this is a weaponized strain designed to kill.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on February 02, 2020, 08:16:46 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 02, 2020, 07:36:43 AM
I want to point something out about the reporting from China. Their "official stats" :rolleyes: Claim a certain amount of deaths, then it claims a small portion of recovery victims, but in none if these releases do they say, Recovery From what?
Are these so called recoveries actually from the virus, or just the flu? No one has seen one of these Corona Virus patients come forth and say they actually recovered, all we have is CCP' dubious word that there's been a recovery.
I'm beginning to doubt these claims. Sure, there may be some, but they got the best care in the world, something hundreds of thousands of patients aren't getting in china.

The people know if they are sent home to recover, they are given a death sentence. I've been following this in depth long before the media even broached the topic, and I am not reading conspiracy sites, only searching out actual facts.
I'm telling you now, this is no ordinary virus, this is a weaponized strain designed to kill.

Crap the Chinese are in full panic mode now. It's almost like what the hell have we done. Check out this video where drones are flying all over the place telling people to put on mask or don't come outside.

I can see this happening in Virginia with the gun control freaks coming for your guns.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-x_3r4FysE
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2020, 08:35:57 AM
Quote from: Bronx on February 02, 2020, 08:16:46 AM
Crap the Chinese are in full panic mode now. It's almost like what the hell have we done. Check out this video where drones are flying all over the place telling people to put on mask or don't come outside.

I can see this happening in Virginia with the gun control freaks coming for your guns.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-x_3r4FysE
I posted this and titled it "1984?" Thought it more appropriate. :blink:
People in Wuhan feel they have been sacrificed because even though medical supplies and masks have been donated, they are not being given out to the people.

1h
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@Gnews202064
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现在共产党杀人的意图好明显啊。看看武汉红十字会里的积压物资,就是不拿出来给人用,这摆明就是要杀人!
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Translation below...

The Communist Party's intention to kill is obvious now. Take a look at the backlog of materials in the Wuhan Red Cross, which is not used for people's use, which shows that it is to kill!
This is a pic from the link showing medical supplies not being distributed.

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Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on February 02, 2020, 09:18:25 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 02, 2020, 08:35:57 AM
I posted this and titled it "1984?" Thought it more appropriate. :blink:
People in Wuhan feel they have been sacrificed because even though medical supplies and masks have been donated, they are not being given out to the people.

1h
你看透共产党了吗?赶紧醒来吧 https://gnews.org/zh-hans/100131/ via
@Gnews202064
你看透共产党了吗?赶紧醒来吧 - Gnews
现在共产党杀人的意图好明显啊。看看武汉红十字会里的积压物资,就是不拿出来给人用,这摆明就是要杀人!
gnews.org

Translation below...

The Communist Party's intention to kill is obvious now. Take a look at the backlog of materials in the Wuhan Red Cross, which is not used for people's use, which shows that it is to kill!
This is a pic from the link showing medical supplies not being distributed.

(https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/news.guo.offload.media/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/01233319/888.jpg)

Please help me with the logic of this.

Their economy is on the verge of a collapse. Why in the world would they try to create a health crisis? It cannot hide the state of the economy. Now the world is on the verge of isolating China which escalates its economic problems.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2020, 09:24:42 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 02, 2020, 09:18:25 AM
Please help me with the logic of this.

Their economy is on the verge of a collapse. Why in the world would they try to create a health crisis? It cannot hide the state of the economy. Now the world is on the verge of isolating China which escalates its economic problems.
I don't think this was done on purpose, I think the virus escaped through ineptness. But it is beginning to appear that the CCP is writing off the Wuhan district. Sure, a few are getting treated, but it is costing them a lot of money, in a system that was supposed to be free.
The CCP is seeing people strictly as numbers, what can be saved and how many supplies can be saved by not wasting them on people who are not going to survive.
CCP is playing a numbers game, good or bad, they have information no one else has and aren't hiding their intentions.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on February 03, 2020, 10:33:14 AM
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/watch-as-coronavirus-spreads-china-builds-an-entire-hospital-in-10-days-2020-02-03?siteid=bulletrss

Click the link to see a time lapse video of China building a hospital from scratch in 10 days.   :scared:


This is supposedly to house the WuFlu people. It's pretty impressive how quickly that got done.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on February 03, 2020, 10:43:05 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on February 03, 2020, 10:33:14 AM
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/watch-as-coronavirus-spreads-china-builds-an-entire-hospital-in-10-days-2020-02-03?siteid=bulletrss

Click the link to see a time lapse video of China building a hospital from scratch in 10 days.   :scared:


This is supposedly to house the WuFlu people. It's pretty impressive how quickly that got done.

It took me a damn week to remodel just my 42" x 36" shower and these people put a whole hospital together in 10 days. No thanks I'll wear the mask.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2020, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on February 03, 2020, 10:33:14 AM
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/watch-as-coronavirus-spreads-china-builds-an-entire-hospital-in-10-days-2020-02-03?siteid=bulletrss

Click the link to see a time lapse video of China building a hospital from scratch in 10 days.   :scared:


This is supposedly to house the WuFlu people. It's pretty impressive how quickly that got done.
Proof the CCP has been lying from day one. They put this in motion days before the outbreak really took off. What did they know, and when did they know it?
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2020, 02:04:14 PM
Check out this video. A worker filmed it. Also note the bars on the windows.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1223909981658828800

This second video which had also gone viral on the internet was filmed by an onsite construction worker, showing the completed quarantined hospital project called "Huo Sheng Shan" (The Fire God Mountain as direct English translation). In the video, he claimed that each individual unit is completely quarantined, but if a patient cannot be cured during the stay, the patient will be sent to a crematorium immediately. In addition, we can also see that each quarantine unit does not have its own bathroom, rather, it appears about 1 bathroom for every 4 quarantined units. In addition, the bathroom does not show any signs of having a toilet or shower. As a result, cross-infections between patients and potential patients are guaranteed, which equals certain death given the lack of medical staff and supplies across the country.

In conclusion, there is no doubt at the current stage, self-quarantine is still the best option for most of the average Chinese citizens. Normal hospitals in China were already at their limits, and this newly quarantine hospital is nothing but a cross-infection nightmare, given that bathrooms are shared among different patients.

As the rest of the world are working tirelessly to research new medicine that can potentially cure the novel coronavirus, and quarantine their existing patients and try their best to cure them; patients in China will only be quarantined and then get cross-infected.

In this dire hour, when millions of Chinese citizens are suffering, the only correct action for the CCP is to open all information and data regarding the novel coronavirus and at the same time unconditionally accept all assistance from countries around the world.

If CCP does not take action quickly(open the internet, tell the public the truth, etc), the casualties will only increase, until this virus does irreversible damage to the globe. And this is one more reason why the CCP must be destroyed in 2020, to prevent further damage to humanity, this year will be the year of reckoning.

Guess where these people will wind up?

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Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: MichaelJ on February 04, 2020, 07:09:43 AM
They are trying to minimize the impact to deter panic by purposely damping down the deaths and # of infected. I guarantee you there are well over 100,000 infected and deaths in the 1000-2000 range.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 04, 2020, 07:16:41 AM
Quote from: MichaelJ on February 04, 2020, 07:09:43 AM
They are trying to minimize the impact to deter panic by purposely damping down the deaths and # of infected. I guarantee you there are well over 100,000 infected and deaths in the 1000-2000 range.
I agree, and ten times the amount of deaths.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 04, 2020, 04:23:03 PM
Steve Bannon On Corona Virus.

Well worth the watch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=QSq4HBI0-eM&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 05, 2020, 09:52:18 AM

BNO Newsroom
@BNODesk
NEW: Hong Kong investigating cruise ship with 1,800 people on board after learning that 3 former passengers were diagnosed with coronavirus; 30 crew members report symptoms - REU/RTHK
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 09, 2020, 05:10:04 PM
Coming Soon, To A City Near You?

Mainland China virus cases rise again after earlier decline

BEIJING (AP) — Mainland China has reported another rise in cases of the new virus after a sharp decline the previous day, while the number of deaths grow by 97 to 908, with at least two more outside the country.

On Monday, China's health ministry said another 3,062 cases had been reported over the previous 24 hours, raising the Chinese mainland's total to 40,171.

Earlier, France closed two schools after five British visitors contracted the virus at a ski resort. Malaysia, South Korea and Vietnam reported one new case each.

Meanwhile, the mother of a physician who died last week in the hardest-hit city of Wuhan said she wants an explanation from authorities who reprimanded her son for warning about the virus.

Monday's rise was a turnaround from a significant reduction in new cases reported Sunday, 2,656, down by about 20% from the 3,399 new cases reported in the previous 24-hour period. That had prompted optimism that the "joint control mechanism of different regions and the strict prevention and control measures have worked," in the words of a spokesman for the National Health Commission, Mi Feng.

Also Sunday, new cases were reported in Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Malaysia, the U.K. and Spain. More than 360 cases have been confirmed outside mainland China.

https://apnews.com/b618953aee1c52b983b280f09488c2e0
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on February 12, 2020, 10:07:51 AM
Could this coronavirus have been an assassination attempt on the President of the United States of America Donald J. Trump......?

Now I'm no conspiracy nutjob but listening to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News report on this is a little freighting. After all everything is leading to the coronavirus being a weapons grade virus.

Now I really don't watch Maria Bartiromo or Fox News but my understanding is she is straight up with her reporting.  Maria Bartiromo didn't come out and state this as fact but I was trying to read between the lines and it seems plausible to me or am I some kind of conspiracy nutjob or just a lying dog-faced pony soldier........ :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edpG-dIZhQk
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 12, 2020, 10:42:50 AM
Quote from: Bronx on February 12, 2020, 10:07:51 AM
Could this coronavirus have been an assassination attempt on the President of the United States of America Donald J. Trump......?

Now I'm no conspiracy nutjob but listening to Maria Bartiromo of Fox News report on this is a little freighting. After all everything is leading to the coronavirus being a weapons grade virus.

Now I really don't watch Maria Bartiromo or Fox News but my understanding is she is straight up with her reporting.  Maria Bartiromo didn't come out and state this as fact but I was trying to read between the lines and it seems plausible to me or am I some kind of conspiracy nutjob or just a lying dog-faced pony soldier........ :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edpG-dIZhQk
If China was targeting the world with a weaponized virus, they totally fucked up. They targeted their own people.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 13, 2020, 03:28:22 PM
Buckle Up, It Could Be A Bumpy Ride...

In Shocking Admission, WHO Advisor Says Coronavirus May Infect Over 5 Billion People

In recent days, Dr. Tedros, the WHO's director-general, has warned that we might be seeing only "the tip of the iceberg" in terms of cases, and that a new rash of infections in Europe could lead to another widespread outbreak.

Longini based his numbers on an r-sub-zero of between 2 and 3, meaning that the average infected person will spread the virus to two or three other people.

In recent days, growing attention has been paid to the lack of reliable virus tests, not just in China, but in virtually all countries where the virus has spread. The difficulties in diagnosing the virus could mean we see another sudden surge of cases - but this time, it could be even larger than last night's dump from officials in Hubei.

Even if we could find a way to reduce the virus's ability to spread by half, it would could still wind up infecting more than 2 billion people.

"Unless the transmissibility changes, surveillance and containment can only work so well," Longini, co-director of the Center for Statistics and Quantitative Infectious Diseases at the University of Florida, said in an interview at WHO headquarters in Geneva. "Isolating cases and quarantining contacts is not going to stop this virus."

Longini, a researcher and scientist who has spent his entire career focusing on infectious diseases, is hardly the only scientist making dire warnings.

Neil Ferguson, a researcher at Imperial College London, estimated that as many as 50,000 people may be infected each day in China, and more recently warned that we could still be in the "preliminary stages" of the outbreak.

More...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-admission-who-advisor-says-coronavirus-may-infect-over-5-billion-people
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on February 13, 2020, 04:22:09 PM
Being of Italian descent and loving everything garlic remember this 90% of garlic comes from China. Make sure your garlic is coming from California.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 13, 2020, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: Bronx on February 13, 2020, 04:22:09 PM
Being of Italian descent and loving everything garlic remember this 90% of garlic comes from China. Make sure your garlic is coming from California.
There's a lot of truth in that. I've been careful opening packages. Scientists say the virus can live for at least 5 days without a host.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: The D-Man on February 16, 2020, 01:13:53 PM
355 total cases on one cruise ship. That's a lot of people in one place.

70 more people diagnosed with coronavirus on quarantined cruise ship in Japan
The Hill, February 16, 2020
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/483300-70-more-people-diagnosed-with-coronavirus-on-quarantined-cruise-ship-in

QuoteSeventy more people were diagnosed with coronavirus on the cruise ship quarantined in Japan, Reuters reported Sunday.

The new cases bring the total number on the ship to 355, which is the most anywhere outside of China, where the virus originated, according to the newswire.

The U.S. said Saturday it will send a chartered flight to Japan to evacuate more than 400 Americans on board the quarantined Diamond Princess.

More than 3,000 passengers are on board the ship that has been quarantined since Feb. 5.

Canada, South Korea, Hong Kong and Italy have also announced flights to bring their citizens homes from the Diamond Princess, according to Reuters.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 16, 2020, 01:26:25 PM
Quote from: The D-Man on February 16, 2020, 01:13:53 PM
355 total cases on one cruise ship. That's a lot of people in one place.

70 more people diagnosed with coronavirus on quarantined cruise ship in Japan
The Hill, February 16, 2020
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/483300-70-more-people-diagnosed-with-coronavirus-on-quarantined-cruise-ship-in
Ya know what's sad? There are still 44 Americans still on board sick, so it looks like it's becoming a hospital ship...
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: The D-Man on February 17, 2020, 09:02:28 AM
It's starting to get ridiculous now. Total of 454 cases on that ship. Does the flu spread that easily?

QuoteOfficials have confirmed another 99 cases of novel coronavirus on a quarantined cruise ship docked in Japan's port of Yokohama.

The new cases bring the confirmed infections on board the ship to 454.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/483360-99-more-cases-of-coronavirus-confirmed-on-cruise-ship
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 17, 2020, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: The D-Man on February 17, 2020, 09:02:28 AM
It's starting to get ridiculous now. Total of 454 cases on that ship. Does the flu spread that easily?
Apparently so. There is a huge apartment complex in Hong Kong about 30 stories high, where they wound up evacuating it due to WUFLU spreading through leaked sewer gas in the plumbing.
So it became an aerosol vapor/gas that infected apartments from the top floor down.
I'll look for the story, but since it was only up for a day, it was probably killed by the CCP.
Title: WUFLU Isn't a Flu?
Post by: Solar on February 17, 2020, 07:00:57 PM
I'm not going to say this is true, nor will I claim it to be false, you decide.
I'm posting it intact, just in case it disappears.


I am a senior Chinese military intelligence officer and I know the truth about the coronavirus outbreak. It is far worse than the media are telling you.
I am a Chinese citizen in Wuhan who occupies — or perhaps occupied — a high-ranking position in military intelligence. I am also a member of the Chinese Communist Party. As a senior official near the top of the Party, I have access to a great deal of classified information and I have been involved in many top secret government projects. I have a doctorate from a leading university in a western country, which is why I am able to write my account in English.

I have information that I believe could lead to the overthrow of my government. It is also relevant to billions of people outside of China, all of whom are now in existential peril.

It will not surprise you to hear that if my identity were to be revealed, my life would be in grave danger, as would those of my wife and son. I ask you to respect the fact that I have stripped out of this account all facts that would make it easy to identify me.

By now you will be familiar with the recent outbreak of 2019-nCoV, also known as NCP, or simply "coronavirus". You will have heard that it originated in Wuhan, an industrial city in China, and that it came from an animal — most likely a bat or a pangolin — that was sold in a wild animal market. You will have been told that it is an influenza-like illness that can in severe cases cause pneumonia, respiratory failure and death. Finally, you may have heard that although the disease is highly infectious, it is dangerous only to the elderly or to those who have a compromised immune system. The official lethality rate is approximately 2% or so.

All of that is a bunch of lies concocted by the Chinese state with the tacit support of the U.S. deep state and its friends in the European Union, Russia and Australia, and spread by the docile media in all of those countries.

Let me start by telling you that the world does not operate the way you think it does. Although countries like the US and China vie for global dominance, that competition is restricted to certain limited areas. In most ways, the two countries are more interested in cooperation so that they can stop other competing countries from gaining more power. They also have a shared interest in keeping real power out of the hands of their "ordinary" citizens. To this end, they have many different mechanisms by which they control the overwhelming majority of their media outlets. The Americans in particular have perfected the art of creating made-up "divisions" between their two main parties which are designed to hide the fact that both serve the same masters.

These same nations also posses technology that is far more advanced than you can imagine and which is kept carefully hidden from public view. This includes advanced artificial intelligence capable of undermining and deciding any election in the world; biological and chemical agents that can manipulate and control the thinking patterns and behaviours of citizens to terrifying degrees; highly sophisticated manipulation techniques using hypnotic practices entirely unknown to the public; and other things that I will not go into now. My point is that the great nations do not compete so much as work together. Their principal goal is to shield the true workings of the world from the "uninitiated" public.

Just to give you one example, there aren't actually any nuclear weapons anywhere in the world. The U.S. and the Soviet Union scrapped them all in the 1970s, as did their client states. Everyone realised that those weapons could not be used without destroying the whole world, so there was no need for them; but by pretending that they still had them, the big players were able to keep the non-nuclear powers in line.

Let me return to the virus.

Last year, large-scale anti-government protests erupted in Hong Kong. The Standing Committee of the Chinese Communist Party considered these to be a grave threat to the integrity and stability of the motherland. The U.S. government and the EU both knew that the Chinese were secretly working on a biological agent that was supposed to make the protesters docile and obedient. Without going into detail, I worked on that project. We tried to develop a sort of spray that could be dispersed from helicopters or drones and that would lead to mental retardation and behavioural change.

Naturally, as Hong Kong is one of the most open and international cities in the world, the Party decided that it was too risky to release the agent in Hong Kong without first testing it. For this, it needed a great number of human guinea pigs. Two groups were identified for this.

First, we rounded up a large number of so-called "islamic radicals" in Xinjiang Province and took them to what we called "training camps". We had already been using these camps for human experimentation for several years, but the Hong Kong protests meant that we redoubled our efforts. We exposed the inmates to various "alpha" experimental agents. As these were odourless and invisible, the subjects were not aware that they were taking part in medical trials. The resulting high rates of cancer, premature dementia, suicidal depression and death by organ failure could easily be suppressed, as the camps are located in very remote parts of our motherland.

Once the initial experiments had yielded a "beta" agent, it was transported to Hubei Province, where it was deployed in a special military testing facility outside the city of Wuhan. This was not even a particularly well-kept secret: the existence of this facility has been reported in international news. Even the fact that it is located close to the wild animal market is a known fact.

By then our President had already introduced a "social credit" system that allowed us to identify disloyal, counter-revolutionary and bourgeois elements in our society. Using the social credit scores — which are taken from online activity, electronic shopping behaviour and reports from informers in civil society — we selected some of the worst offenders. These included human rights lawyers and activists, Christians, homosexuals, artists, intellectuals, people who speak foreign languages, and other undesirables.

Once these troublemakers had been collected and placed in the testing facility, we exposed them to the Agent, which is biochemical in nature and spread in an invisible aerosol, akin to certain viruses. Initial results were encouraging, as we saw significant cognitive decline and reduction in higher mental processing facilities. Essentially, our undesirables were becoming mildly mentally disabled, which is precisely the effect we wanted to produce in order to pacify the restive population of Hong Kong.

Unfortunately, it quickly became apparent that the Agent also had other effects. About one week after the retardation set in, our subjects developed major anxiety and panic attacks. Eventually they developed symptoms akin to those of paranoid schizophrenics. At that point, their bodies rapidly deteriorated. They developed massive internal bleeding; the walls of their arteries dissolved; they bled out of their eyes and orifices, and their tissue disintegrated.

To put it in a more direct Western manner, they started to melt.

Death usually occurred through multiple organ failure. This was preceded by at least five days of severe agony which could not be alleviated by painkillers. It was at this time that I first violated our protocol: one subject, an elderly lady who had published defamatory cartoons of our President, begged me for death with such insistence that I took pity and shot her. I was reprimanded, but fortunately the complaint was dropped when I agreed to reimburse the cost of the bullet. I swore to myself never again to show such unnecessary emotion.

We decided that our Agent was unusable. It was far too destructive for our purposes. We wanted the population of Hong Kong to submit to us; we did not want to exterminate it.

Naturally, our American friends had by then taken an interest in our work and asked us for a sample for their own research and testing purposes. They hinted that they wished to use it to resolve certain difficulties in Venezuela. Normally we would have agreed, as we maintain friendly relations with the CIA, but given the extremely toxic nature of the Agent, we declined.

This, as it turned out, was a grave mistake. The CIA was convinced that we had developed something very powerful and wanted to keep it to ourselves. They offered a great deal of money to one of our researchers. Foolishly, he agreed to sell them a specimen. We found out just in time for the handover and tried to stop it from happening. In the ensuing shoot-out — don't bother to look for it in the news, it was never reported anywhere — several dozen people were killed.

More importantly, however, the Agent escaped.

The shoot-out took place at the wild animal market which has been reported as the location of the "animal to human" transmission that started the outbreak. But of course there was no such transmission; it was just the location where the CIA was supposed to receive the sealed vial containing the Agent. The vial shattered when it was dropped by the traitor who had agreed to sell it to the Americans.

By now I understand you will be sceptical. If I really am who I say I am, why would I be sharing this information on the internet? Let me assure you that I am no friend of the Western system of governance. I love my motherland and I am loyal to the Communist Party. It has lifted hundreds of millions of my compatriots out of squalor and poverty. However, I am also a human being and I have a conscience.

Most importantly, I have a wife and a son.

Once we realised that the Agent had escaped and would start to spread, we swiftly put all of Wuhan into lockdown. I was one of those tasked to manage the fallout of the contamination. Of course we could not keep such a huge undertaking secret, so we decided to order our state media to report that a "coronavirus" had broken out in Wuhan.

In reality, of course, there is no "coronavirus". It was all made up.

It was one of my colleagues who came up with the genius idea of pretending that people with the common flu suffered from the coronavirus. This allowed us to hide the true nature of the disease. Let me explain.

It is currently flu season in China. When we realised that we could no longer control the spread of the Agent, we sent our men to all the hospitals and instructed all doctors to diagnose every case of the common flu as "coronavirus". We came up with a new name — 2019-nCoV — and handed out "factsheets" that described a made-up illness.

The result of this decision was that tens of thousands of individuals who were simply suffering from a cold or flu were now diagnosed as having a mysterious coronavirus that, although infectious, was not often lethal. While this frightened the public, it allowed us to push the narrative that the disease was not that deadly; it also gave us time to prepare for the catastrophe that was sure to come by imposing a lockdown on Wuhan and other cities in Hubei Province.

You have not heard this in the news — and given the size of Wuhan, with its population of 11 million, it is not known even to many of the residents — but within days thousands upon thousands were infected and before long they suffered the agonising deaths that I have already described. Within a week, there were so many corpses that we did not know what to do with them, so we ordered the surviving social credit prisoners to drive the bodies into the countryside and bury them in mass graves. But it was very difficult to keep this activity secret, and we could not even keep up as there were so many corpses. We planted a story that five million residents had "fled" Wuhan. In reality, of course, many of those people had died from the Agent.

I was working around the clock helping to orchestrate this cover-up. When I think back to my actions now, I feel great shame. At the time I still believed that I was fighting for my motherland and that the rule of the Party was right and just. But deep down, I had already begun to have doubts.

My faith in the Party was shaken even more deeply when I learnt what had happened to Dr Li Wenliang. He was one of the few doctors who refused falsely to diagnose flu patients with the "coronavirus". As a punishment, he was sent to help transport dead bodies to mass graves. The expectation was that he would be infected with the Agent and die an agonising death, but to our great surprise, he did not contract the illness.

You have of course read that he died of "coronavirus". You have been misinformed. A sergeant of the People's Armed Police injected him with a mixture of heroin and mercury that caused his lungs to deflate.

When I found out about this I became unsure whether or not I was doing the right thing. While I believe that it is appropriate for a government to rule with a severe hand, I do not think that it was right to kill Dr Li. He was a compassionate and kind man and he cared about his patients; how can our motherland not benefit from having such a doctor?

I shared my concerns with my wife, but she convinced me that I should not say anything to my superiors. She said that it was too dangerous; that they valued loyalty above everything else; and that I would only find trouble if I admitted to my doubts about their practices. She also pointed out that we benefited from priority medical treatment. As senior officials, we received regular supplies of the highly-sophisticated hazmat masks that are the only known technology that can prevent infection. She implored me to think of our son, who is still small. If I spoke out and were caught, our lives would be at risk.

Around the same time, it became clear that the Agent was entirely beyond our control. It was spreading like wildfire throughout Hubei Province and beyond, infecting tens of millions and causing them all to die.

I understand that what I just said is difficult to believe, because you have been told that there have been only about 50,000 infections, and far fewer deaths. But these are the influenza infections that have been falsely passed off as the non-existent "coronavirus". The Agent is far, far more contagious than that, and its fatality rate, unlike the "coronavirus", is not 2%.

No, its fatality rate is 100%. Nobody recovers from it. Everybody who contracts it dies.

And a lot of people are contracting it.

Hubei Province lies in ruins. The various travel restrictions and lockdowns that have been imposed were not created to stop the spread of the Agent — none of them can stop it, not embargoes, not face masks or hand sanitiser — but to stop the survivors from seeing the catastrophe with their own eyes.

I am part of the greatest cover-up in human history: the hiding of the deaths of tens of millions. Very soon, Hubei Province will be no more than a giant mortuary, and the truth will come out.

For me, the turning point came when the Party told yet another lie, and that lie was too dreadful even for me to accept. You may have heard that China built a new hospital, called Huoshenshan Hospital, in Wuhan, in order to provide additional quarantine and isolation facilities for infected patients. You may have heard that they built it in only ten days.

That too is a lie.

Sure, they did build something in six days. But it was not a hospital. The true nature of the building was top secret. Initially, I was naive enough to believe that the Party was demonstrating its compassion and care for the people. But then my superiors sent me to Huoshenshan. I was shown around the installation by a military police officer called Corporal Meng (this is not his real name). It was there that I saw the truth.

As I have mentioned, the only way to protect oneself from the Agent is by wearing a special protective mask that is entirely unlike those available commercially. Even medical professionals do not have access to it. It is available only to biomedical warfare researchers and it contains extremely advanced technology.

These masks need to be kept at a particular temperature to offer full protection, and lose their effectiveness very quickly. As I have also already said, one of the benefits of my position was that both my family and I had access to regular supplies, which is why were safe when compared to civilians, doctors and even lower-level government officials, all of whom wore utterly ineffective surgical masks in the misguided belief that they would protect them.

And so, wearing this special equipment, I went to Huoshenshan with Corporal Meng.

Whatever you want to call that place, it is not a hospital. Sure, the entrance looks like a hospital and in the ward at the front of the complex, there are what appear to be normal medical beds. There, thousands of infected patients lie, all of them in the early stages of the disease. I walked along those long, white corridors next to Corporal Meng, his angular face dispassionate in his military fatigues, and saw hundreds upon hundreds of identical hospital beds on which squirmed the terrified and diseased inhabitants of Wuhan. Their cries and pleas haunt me in the long nights in which I now am unable to sleep.

But this was merely the beginning. Eventually the Corporal took me to the rear of this front section. There, locked metal gates led to what he called the "middle section". The patients in the front are unaware of its existence. It is there that the more advanced cases are kept, in what most closely resembles a mental asylum.

Immediately upon entering this part of Huoshenshan I was struck by the dim lighting and stench of vomit and human waste. Here the unfortunates roamed freely, their minds gradually disintegrating in endless panic attacks and psychotic episodes. Here too there were no more doctors, merely gorilla-faced men in black uniforms who belonged to some secret branch of the military police I had never heard of.

They appeared to have been selected for their cruelty, for they beat and degraded the patients in the most sadistic manner. Many of the inmates had regressed to childlike states and lay on the floor weeping like infants and begging for compassion that they did not receive. There was cruel pleasure in the eyes of these thugs as they brutalised the unfortunates. They beat them with batons, sprayed pepper spray into their eyes and kicked them with their steel-capped boots. As I was from military intelligence, the guards did not even attempt to hide their activities. They even invited me to join; in every way, they treated me as one of them.

Yes, one of them. I stood in the grey staff bathroom of Huoshenshan and looked into a cheap mirror and asked myself — is this really what you are? Are you really like them?

But the violence was not merely an expression of sadism, for the poor inmates were not there to be cared for.

They were there to work.

There was one more set of doors, and beyond them lay what the Corporal called the "Core". And it was there that I saw it — piles and piles of dead bodies, stacked on top of one another all the way to the ceiling. There were men, women and children, elderlies and toddlers, rich and poor, beautiful and misshapen, proud and humble.

They were all of them dead. Our Agent made no distinction between any of them.

I gasped when the Corporal led me to the Core. I cannot count how many there were, but it was many, many thousands. And in the midst of the piles of corpses was a kind of path, and I heard a roaring sound in the distance. The miserable patients from the middle section picked up the dead and carried and dragged them away into the dark, even as the guards beat them with truncheons.

It took me a little while before I grasped what was happening. I simply could not believe what lay at the end of that path in the Core.

It was an enormous furnace, with great fires roaring within.

One by one, their minds destroyed and their bodies twisted, the dying men and women carried the corpses to the furnace and cast them inside in a doomed attempt to hide the dreadful truth. I saw several of them collapse from exhaustion only for their lifeless bodies to be added to the mountains of corpses on both sides. In a seemingly endless line they went, their emaciated bodies clad in grey overalls, their backs bent under the weight of their dreadful cargo. Many howled and groaned in terror and their voices joined in a sorrowful cacophony that lingered over the roar of the fires.

In deep shock, I stared at the boundless horror before me. Beside me stood Corporal Meng, his freshly-shaved face as emotionless as before. When I turned to face him, he looked at me. His mouth smiled, but his eyes did not.

"We use the energy to operate Huoshenshan," he said. "We save the state considerable resources in this way. And look," — he waved at the gallery of the dead — "there are so many of them here. You could almost describe it as renewable energy." He laughed and waved his hand in a strangely camp gesture.

I stood speechless and stared at the infernal scenes before me. Men in black uniforms screamed like daemons at the wretches who were disposing of the corpses for them. They stripped the dead of anything that had value — jewellery, cash, expensive clothing — and tossed these items onto an enormous pile next to the furnace. When I asked the Corporal what would be done with the items, they said that they would be used to pay for the "healthcare expenses" incurred by the patients' stay in Huoshenshan.

I vomited in the toilet. When I flushed and came out of the stall, Corporal Meng stood by the door and looked at me. His face was as blank as before, but in his eyes I thought I registered a very faint trace of contempt. You are ten years my senior, the look said, but you are soft.

I thanked him for his service and went home.

When I arrived, I saw that I had received hundreds of updates on the encrypted device the Party uses to communicate to insiders. The news were unimaginably grim. The State Legal and Economic Commission had allocated funds for the construction of dozens of facilities like Huoshenshan all throughout China. The Agent had spread not only to every single province of the motherland, but to most other nations in the world. Fortunately, we had agreements in place with other governments — they agreed to pretend that the infections were due to a coronavirus. They were just as worried as we were that a panic might break out in their countries. The Americans in particular were terrified that the S&P 500 might decline. This, they said, would be unacceptable in an election year, so we could count on their full support.

Of course the World Health Organisation also helped us. For a long time, the only issue with the WHO has been that we have been locked in a contest with the Americans about who bribes them more. They released all sorts of sophisticated misinformation about having decoded the DNA of the so-called coronavirus. All this has allowed us to stave off a global panic.

For now.

Yet the situation was worsening with astonishing speed. I am reluctant to reveal too much on this point, as it would make it too easy for my enemies to identify me, but we quickly began to implement measures to protect our most senior leaders. If you look at the world news, you will see that Xi Jinping, our President, disappeared for approximately one week after the outbreak, before being seen again with the leader of Cambodia.

You should know that the person who met the Cambodian leader was not President Xi. It was a body double who had, for many years, been trained to look and sound just like our President. President Xi is of course not careless enough to risk his own death. He is safely ensconced in a secret bunker underneath Zhongnanhai, the headquarters of the Party in Beijing.

Nor was he the only leader who is in hiding. In fact, I can assure you that over half of all senior Party members are currently being imitated by trained actors who are following instructions given to them via special implants. Do you really think that our Prime Minister would risk his life by going to Wuhan?

All of this means that our government has become utterly paralysed and the functions of the state have been taken over by the military.

It became clear to me that our efforts were pointless. Yes, the lockdowns, travel bans and targeted assassinations of rebellious journalists allowed us to hide the true situation in Wuhan; but I knew that this would not last. Once the mass deaths begin in the rest of the world — in our estimation, this should happen within the next week or so — everyone will know the truth. It will become clear that we cannot protect ourselves from the Agent. Surgical masks, hand sanitiser, gloves — nothing can stop it. Nothing except the special hazmat masks, but those cannot be produced in anything like sufficient quantities. You, an ordinary person, will never even receive one, let alone a sufficient number to see you through the coming holocaust.

For those of you reading this, therefore, all I can suggest is that you keep your loved ones close to you. Hug them, tell them what they mean to you. Enjoy the time you have left with them. It is not typical in Chinese culture to express one's feelings in this way, but I have learnt the importance of such gestures.

I promised my wife that I would show this document to her before I posted it.

Yet I broke my word.

I hear her weep in loud, hoarse sobs in the bedroom, and the keyboard of my laptop is wet with my own tears. Not long ago, we received results of the regular tests that are part of our "priority medical treatment", and we learnt that my son had been infected with the Agent.

The military police that has supplied me with the special protective mask had been giving expired and ineffective masks to my son, masks that senior officials had already worn and then discarded when they ceased to protect them. My own masks, on the other hand, had always been of the necessary quality.

I suppose they decided that my son was of lower priority than me. I suppose my son could not help them with their cover-up.

We had long ago decided that we would be different — we would be honest with him, always. And so when he asked us, we told him the truth. We told him that he was very sick. He asked more, and we told him he would not get better.

He continued asking, and we told him that he would die. He is very small, but he was old enough to understand.

His terrified wails will haunt me for the rest of my miserable days in this world.

Let them come. Let them do with me as they will. I no longer care.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/f2b07y/i_am_a_senior_chinese_military_intelligence/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 18, 2020, 04:56:23 AM
I'm a little skeptical of the article, but it did make me wonder about one question, would China go to this extreme to destroy wall street? Everyone hates a panic, wall street especially. China needs to cut back on population anyway???? 
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2020, 06:46:35 AM
Quote from: s3779m on February 18, 2020, 04:56:23 AM
I'm a little skeptical of the article, but it did make me wonder about one question, would China go to this extreme to destroy wall street? Everyone hates a panic, wall street especially. China needs to cut back on population anyway????
Yeah, come off with a lot of embellishment, but much of it screams truth. Like I said, I have no idea if it's real or fake, but it was an interesting read.
We'll know soon enough if the world can't hide the deaths any longer. If his claims of incurable don't come to fruition, we'll know it was total BS.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 18, 2020, 06:51:46 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 18, 2020, 06:46:35 AM
Yeah, come off with a lot of embellishment, but much of it screams truth. Like I said, I have no idea if it's real or fake, but it was an interesting read.
We'll know soon enough if the world can't hide the deaths any longer. If his claims of incurable don't come to fruition, we'll know it was total BS.
Hate to say it, but the main reason I am skeptical is if he is telling the truth, we are screwed.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2020, 07:08:20 AM
Quote from: s3779m on February 18, 2020, 06:51:46 AM
Hate to say it, but the main reason I am skeptical is if he is telling the truth, we are screwed.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm with ya brother...
The main thing that made doubt the credibility of the author was his claim that we did away with nukes. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 18, 2020, 08:17:03 AM
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/02/how_xis_bungling_has_devastated_chinas_military_capabilities_.html

From the article talking about effects from the virus
QuoteBut the hit to China's economy is real and huge. Coal consumption is half what it should be at this point after the end of the lunar new year holidays. A ir pollution, as measured by satellites, is down 20% to 50%.
When air pollution is down that much, ain't much happening. Meant to mention on an earlier post about the other article posted by Solar, is Xi still alive? If the economy is hit that bad, and china losing face all over the world, it would not suprise me if he is replaced.





Greta should be happy.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2020, 09:41:22 AM
Quote from: s3779m on February 18, 2020, 08:17:03 AM
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/02/how_xis_bungling_has_devastated_chinas_military_capabilities_.html

From the article talking about effects from the virus When air pollution is down that much, ain't much happening. Meant to mention on an earlier post about the other article posted by Solar, is Xi still alive? If the economy is hit that bad, and china losing face all over the world, it would not suprise me if he is replaced.





Greta should be happy.
Pollution? Only to be replaced with:

https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-death-smog-is-china-burning-thousands-of-infected-bodies/
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: MichaelJ on February 18, 2020, 10:08:33 AM
While I don't buy the entirety of that article, I think there is some kernels of truth(s) in there. It is highly, highly, highly likely that they are downplaying both the number of infected and deaths, as well as the seriousness of the illness. If a virus had been "manufactured" in a Bio weapon facility it could have greatly intensified the effects, or even caused a mutation, of what was an ordinary treatable virus making it very hard now to treat. If this is the case, we could see over 50 million deaths worldwide and possibly more until we get a better handle on what they combined this virus with. Not claiming doomsday is coming but this is very scary in the near (1-2 years) term
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2020, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: MichaelJ on February 18, 2020, 10:08:33 AM
While I don't buy the entirety of that article, I think there is some kernels of truth(s) in there. It is highly, highly, highly likely that they are downplaying both the number of infected and deaths, as well as the seriousness of the illness. If a virus had been "manufactured" in a Bio weapon facility it could have greatly intensified the effects, or even caused a mutation, of what was an ordinary treatable virus making it very hard now to treat. If this is the case, we could see over 50 million deaths worldwide and possibly more until we get a better handle on what they combined this virus with. Not claiming doomsday is coming but this is very scary in the near (1-2 years) term

https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2020, 12:01:42 PM
A little news that went predominantly unreported.

https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-death-smog-is-china-burning-thousands-of-infected-bodies/
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 19, 2020, 01:57:42 PM
I'm telling you folks, they're lying to us, including our own govt to avert panic. But it's sooo damned obvious this is not your ordinary flu, it's far deadlier!

China deploys 40 incinerators to Wuhan amid fears of coronavirus death toll 'cover up'


(https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article21529089.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_e181ed39a9b949047d41f90c2f02e5b3566c8968.jpg)

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-40-incinerators-wuhan-21529067
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 20, 2020, 05:53:41 PM
Don't think it's bad in China? This what you call "At Your Wits End...

https://www.brighteon.com/e521ae50-337b-4bf8-8d7c-eb73d59acc0d
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 20, 2020, 06:37:16 PM
WTF???

You have to see this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIvDQuDeEaM
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 23, 2020, 08:03:45 AM
European CDC on coronavirus: "As the situation is rapidly evolving, more cases are expected in Italy, and possibly in the EU, in the coming days."

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231608561173704704
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on February 23, 2020, 08:12:52 AM
I am not very PC  :lol: 
Every time I see a raghead I turn around and walk the other way now.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 23, 2020, 08:37:30 AM
Quote from: walkstall on February 23, 2020, 08:12:52 AM
I am not very PC  :lol: 
Every time I see a raghead I turn around and walk the other way now.
I haven't seen one in years.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 23, 2020, 08:37:47 AM
https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1231614700703617025
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: taxed on February 23, 2020, 01:15:18 PM
This was posted in January... consider Italy right now:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241674007
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: taxed on February 23, 2020, 01:16:34 PM
QuoteRemember, the most optimistic prediction at this point is 60,000 people are going to get killed in the next few months. It's highly infectious with an R6, probable chance of further mutations, infectious during the prodromal phase, and it's airborne. The only reason you're not already seeing thousands of people confirmed outside of China yet is because the incubation period but believe me the WHO is already talking about how "problematic" modeling the Chinese response in Western countries is going to be, and the first country they want to try it out in is Italy. If it begins a large outbreak in a major Italian city they want to work through the Italian authorities and world health organizations to begin locking down Italian cities in a vain attempt to slow down the spread at least until they can develop and distribute vaccines, which btw is where you need to start investing.

The not just bad but scary case scenario is that they fail to contain it and that it also mutates in South America. This is going to be far, far worse than the Spanish flu if that happens and it's going to completely crash the global economy. This is concerned by world health authorities to be "only" 20.6-7% probable of happening however so as far as they're concerned they're taking it one step at a time not to start a panic, but it is estimated a one in five chance of over a hundred million people dying in the next year. Redfield is aware of this along with some other top American CDC staff and triaging the situation the situation according to that logic. Ask Kyle about this when you've got a chance. European health authorities do not seem fully debriefed on all this yet but WHO as far as I'm aware is where the numbers themselves mostly originated along with the models.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 23, 2020, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: taxed on February 23, 2020, 01:15:18 PM
This was posted in January... consider Italy right now:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241674007
I knew about this three weeks before I started this thread, but at the time there wasn't enough info out there to make any sense of it.
We now know it's essentially an unreported pandemic, and I have to agree with your link, it is to avert a panic.

But I'll say what I've been saying fall along, now is the time to get prepared. Face masks are fine, but even better is an actual gas mask, or a high quality carbon filter dust face/mask with a shitload of filters, yes, they actually plug up rather quickly.
Tyvek and mechanics disposable gloves.  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0008EZIS2/ref=dp_cerb_1

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61YnH5w5oJL._SL1500_.jpg)

Thing is, it's not a waste of money, you can always use all of this at some point.
Title: Re: COVID-19 known as, WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 23, 2020, 02:51:11 PM
She has the virus, shows no signs, feels fine, but they won't let her leave.
This is what is known as a super carrier. In other words, until she no longer shows signs of the virus, she won't be leaving any time soon, if ever.
This is the most recent update I could find on her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93dvy9wkxLI
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on February 23, 2020, 03:27:14 PM
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6135159896001?playlist_id=3386055101001#sp=show-clips
Title: Re: COVID-19 known as, WUFLU (coronavirus)
Post by: taxed on February 23, 2020, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 23, 2020, 02:51:11 PM
She has the virus, shows no signs, feels fine, but they won't let her leave.
This is what is known as a super carrier. In other words, until she no longer shows signs of the virus, she won't be leaving any time soon, if ever.
This is the most recent update I could find on her.


WTF honey... It's a goddamn pandemic.  What does she expect?
Title: Re: COVID-19 known as, WUFLU (coronavirus)
Post by: Solar on February 23, 2020, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: taxed on February 23, 2020, 03:32:58 PM
WTF honey... It's a goddamn pandemic.  What does she expect?
Here ya go Taxed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd7mR3rjsp8

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The incubation period for the Wuhan coronavirus (2019-nCoV) can last up to 24 days, according to a study by renowned Chinese pulmonologist Zhong Nanshan (鍾南山).

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3874223
Title: Re: COVID-19 known as, WUFLU (coronavirus)
Post by: taxed on February 23, 2020, 06:34:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 23, 2020, 03:59:16 PM
Here ya go Taxed!


TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The incubation period for the Wuhan coronavirus (2019-nCoV) can last up to 24 days, according to a study by renowned Chinese pulmonologist Zhong Nanshan (鍾南山).

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3874223

Good Lord.......
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Robnur on February 24, 2020, 10:29:39 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on January 22, 2020, 05:08:15 PM
WTF are they eating so much dog and cat for? Is there a demand for it or something? Have they developed a taste? Why is PETA wasting their time here with stuff like this going on? Prbly just like the environmentalists who focus on the USA and ignore the bigger problem in china.


Is there anything those people won't eat? This is disgusting.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 24, 2020, 01:08:55 PM
WHO Warns Of Soon To Be Be Pandemic... Took these idiots long enough~~~


https://www.france24.com/en/20200224-as-coronavirus-spreads-who-urges-world-to-prepare-for-potential-pandemic?ref=tw_i

Here's the CYA video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqLE5-mQL1M&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 24, 2020, 01:31:26 PM
Don't think for a second were going through this unscathed. Be prepared, you don't want to deal with this shit.

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1232006683913789442
Title: White House unveils $2.5B emergency coronavirus request
Post by: Solar on February 24, 2020, 06:35:05 PM
Bout Time! I hope everyone is prepping for what could be a nasty Spring.

White House unveils $2.5B emergency coronavirus request

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Monday sent lawmakers an urgent $2.5 billion plan to address the deadly coronavirus outbreak, whose rapid spread and threat to the global economy rocked financial markets.

The White House budget office said the funds are for vaccines, treatment, and protective equipment. The request could advance quickly through Congress and came as coronavirus fears were credited with Monday's 1,000-plus point drop in the Dow Jones Industrials and are increasingly seen as a potential political threat to President Donald Trump.

The request was released Monday evening and came as key government accounts were running low. The Department of Health and Human Services had already tapped into an emergency infectious disease rapid response fund and was seeking to transfer more than $130 million from other HHS accounts to combat the virus but is pressing for more.

"Today, the Administration is transmitting to Congress a $2.5 billion supplemental funding plan to accelerate vaccine development, support preparedness and response activities and to procure much needed equipment and supplies," said White House budget office spokeswoman Rachel Semmel. "We are also freeing up existing resources and allowing for greater flexibilities for response activities."

The administration is requesting $1.25 billion in new funding and wants to transfer $535 million more in funding from an Ebola preparedness account. It anticipates shifting money from other HHS accounts and other agencies to complete the $2.5 billion response plan. House Democrats are likely to reject the offsetting cut to Ebola preparedness, said a spokesman for Appropriations Committee Chairwoman Nita Lowey, D-N.Y.

Senators returning to Washington after a weeklong recess will receive a classified briefing Tuesday morning on the government's coronavirus response, a Senate aide said.

"All of the warning lights are flashing bright red. We are staring down a potential pandemic and the administration has no plan," said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who blasted a shortage of kits to test for the virus and President Donald Trump's proposed budget cuts to health agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "We have a crisis of coronavirus and President Trump has no plan, no urgency, no understanding of the facts or how to coordinate a response."

Trump was a vocal critic of President Barack Obama's response to the 2014 Ebola scare, which barely touched the U.S. but was seen as a factor in that year's midterm elections, which restored control of the Senate to Republicans.

Trump took to Twitter Monday to defend his record.

"The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" he tweeted.

https://apnews.com/39d9c237bfc75c93016870b00ac6dab8
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 25, 2020, 06:15:45 AM
Keeps on Spreading...

Coronavirus: Tenerife hotel with hundreds of guests locked down

A hotel in Tenerife in Spain's Canary Islands has been locked down after a visiting Italian doctor tested positive for coronavirus.

Hundreds of guests at the H10 Costa Adeje Palace Hotel were initially told to stay in their rooms as medical tests were carried out.

The doctor is reportedly from the Lombardy region, where Italian authorities are battling an outbreak.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51627597?ocid=socialflow_twitter
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: The D-Man on February 25, 2020, 10:13:06 AM
:(

Americans should prepare for coronavirus spread in U.S., CDC says
NBC News, February 25, 2020
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/americans-should-prepare-coronavirus-spread-u-s-cdc-says-n1142556?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
QuoteTop public health officials say Americans should prepare for the spread of the coronavirus in communities across the U.S.

"It's not so much a question of if this will happen any more, but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness," the head of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease, Dr. Nancy Messonnier, said during a media briefing Tuesday.

Measures to contain the virus in the U.S. so far have involved restricting travel to and from China — the center of the outbreak — and isolating cases identified so far in this country.

But Messonnier said that evidence the virus is spreading in other countries, such as Iran and Italy, has raised CDC's "level of concern and expectation that we'll see spread" in the U.S.

She added that Americans need to prepare for disruptions to their daily lives, including school closures, working from home or delayed elective medical procedures, as efforts to contain and control possible spread in the U.S. may accelerate in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 25, 2020, 10:20:41 AM
Quote from: The D-Man on February 25, 2020, 10:13:06 AM
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Americans should prepare for coronavirus spread in U.S., CDC says
NBC News, February 25, 2020
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/americans-should-prepare-coronavirus-spread-u-s-cdc-says-n1142556?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
I've been warning about this for over a month. The inevitable is upon us.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: The D-Man on February 25, 2020, 10:26:13 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 25, 2020, 10:20:41 AM
I've been warning about this for over a month. The inevitable is upon us.

We're generally used to the news being something that happens on the other side of a screen. It's hard to get used to it being something that happens at the grocery store, with everyone wearing those masks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 05:40:50 AM
I have to agree with Newt  Gingrich this  morning. How many people  live  in Italy? 50million? 300 or  so have the  virus? How  got the  regular flu  during the  same time? Im also going to go out  on a huge  limb  and say the regular  good  ol flu has and will kill more  people than the  corona  virus  ever will.  Panic  over  nothing  in my  humble  opinion.

"According to new estimates published today, between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year, higher than a previous estimate of 250,000 to 500,000 and based on a robust, multinational survey.

The new estimate, from a collaborative study by CDC and global health partners, appears today in The Lancet. The estimate excludes deaths during pandemics."

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2017/p1213-flu-death-estimate.html

One  final point, like all flu i have  no doubt  alot  of  people have  gotten corona, got  over  it, and thought  they had an average  cold. The VAST majority  of  cases are quite  mild. The  media  makes  it  look like the  black plague.

"https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1237961/coronavirus-fatality-rate-vs-flu-how-deadly-is-coronavirus-flu-death-toll-2020

The fatality rate is nearly three percent higher in the city of Wuhan in Hubei province, where the virus originated, which has a rate of 4.9 percent.

Excepting cases in Hubei, the mortality rate drops down to 0.16 percent, bringing it much closer to the flu.

A separate tracker from coronavirus.app revealed 701 people have recovered from the disease, assigning it a recovery rate of 3.39 percent.

The latest coronavirus is not the first to have caused global panic, as another member of the family, SARS, circulated the world from China in 2002-2003.

Compared to SARS, which had a mortality rate of 9.6 percent, 2019-nCoV is much less deadly."

And lets  not  forget. The world  didnt  come  to end with Sars. Finally, you  take  out the  1 3rd world  province  of  China and the  death rate  for  corona  is  0.16%. Its the  flu, and  nothing  more.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 06:14:12 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 05:40:50 AM
I have to agree with Newt  Gingrich this  morning. How many people  live  in Italy? 50million? 300 or  so have the  virus? How  got the  regular flu  during the  same time? Im also going to go out  on a huge  limb  and say the regular  good  ol flu has and will kill more  people than the  corona  virus  ever will.  Panic  over  nothing  in my  humble  opinion.

"According to new estimates published today, between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year, higher than a previous estimate of 250,000 to 500,000 and based on a robust, multinational survey.

The new estimate, from a collaborative study by CDC and global health partners, appears today in The Lancet. The estimate excludes deaths during pandemics."

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2017/p1213-flu-death-estimate.html

One  final point, like all flu i have  no doubt  alot  of  people have  gotten corona, got  over  it, and thought  they had an average  cold. The VAST majority  of  cases are quite  mild. The  media  makes  it  look like the  black plague.

"https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1237961/coronavirus-fatality-rate-vs-flu-how-deadly-is-coronavirus-flu-death-toll-2020

The fatality rate is nearly three percent higher in the city of Wuhan in Hubei province, where the virus originated, which has a rate of 4.9 percent.

Excepting cases in Hubei, the mortality rate drops down to 0.16 percent, bringing it much closer to the flu.

A separate tracker from coronavirus.app revealed 701 people have recovered from the disease, assigning it a recovery rate of 3.39 percent.

The latest coronavirus is not the first to have caused global panic, as another member of the family, SARS, circulated the world from China in 2002-2003.

Compared to SARS, which had a mortality rate of 9.6 percent, 2019-nCoV is much less deadly."

And lets  not  forget. The world  didnt  come  to end with Sars. Finally, you  take  out the  1 3rd world  province  of  China and the  death rate  for  corona  is  0.16%. Its the  flu, and  nothing  more.
You just keep on buying bogus numbers, but the fact is, China lied and is still lying about the numbers. This is no ordinary flu, it is a weaponized virus with an attached HIV component and latest results show, you really never get rid of the flu, it will always be with you once exposed, thanks to that added HIV component.

Your willingness to accept govt and WHO numbers as fact says a lot about you as a lib and your trust in Govt.
This thing is only getting started, has proven to be more contagious, live longer without a host and even lie dormant in certain hosts as it spreads to other victims, something simple flu of the past have not been noted for.

There's a reason for the panic from other nations, they know the truth, the truth that WHO is hiding from the public so as not to create panic, that part I get. But to attempt to blow this off as just another bug?
Better hope you don't catch it at your age.
Why are you not questioning why so many people are being quarantined over "Just Another Flu"?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 26, 2020, 06:22:29 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 06:14:12 AM
You just keep on buying bogus numbers, but the fact is, China lied and is still lying about the numbers. This is no ordinary flu, it is a weaponized virus with an attached HIV component and latest results show, you really never get rid of the flu, it will always be with you once exposed, thanks to that added HIV component.

Your willingness to accept govt and WHO numbers as fact says a lot about you as a lib and your trust in Govt.
This thing is only getting started, has proven to be more contagious, live longer without a host and even lie dormant in certain hosts as it spreads to other victims, something simple flu of the past have not been noted for.

There's a reason for the panic from other nations, they know the truth, the truth that WHO is hiding from the public so as not to create panic, that part I get. But to attempt to blow this off as just another bug?
Better hope you don't catch it at your age.
Why are you not questioning why so many people are being quarantined over "Just Another Flu"?
I keep hearing about South Korea and how many cases there, but nothing on North Korea. I would not be surprised if the cases there are as high as China's. Think we will ever find anything out about them? If the government there opens up the border, we will have a pretty good idea. Mexico I think is our biggest concern, we can not control our borders.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 06:28:19 AM
Quote from: s3779m on February 26, 2020, 06:22:29 AM
I keep hearing about South Korea and how many cases there, but nothing on North Korea. I would not be surprised if the cases there are as high as China's. Think we will ever find anything out about them? If the government there opens up the border, we will have a pretty good idea. Mexico I think is our biggest concern, we can not control our borders.
Good points!
NK locked down on media releases as soon as they had an outbreak, but of all places, it will be hardest hit because of lack of medical care for the masses. And no, we will never know the truth, a million could die from it and unless people escape to tell the truth, no one will ever know the horrors behind the wall.

I agree, Mexico is a huge concern, let's just hope the latest border wall is enough to contain the foot traffic we've seen in the past. If say, Columbia has an outbreak first, Mexico will lock down their border with troops, signaling what happens next.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 07:53:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 06:14:12 AM
You just keep on buying bogus numbers, but the fact is, China lied and is still lying about the numbers. This is no ordinary flu, it is a weaponized virus with an attached HIV component and latest results show, you really never get rid of the flu, it will always be with you once exposed, thanks to that added HIV component.

Your willingness to accept govt and WHO numbers as fact says a lot about you as a lib and your trust in Govt.
This thing is only getting started, has proven to be more contagious, live longer without a host and even lie dormant in certain hosts as it spreads to other victims, something simple flu of the past have not been noted for.

There's a reason for the panic from other nations, they know the truth, the truth that WHO is hiding from the public so as not to create panic, that part I get. But to attempt to blow this off as just another bug?
Better hope you don't catch it at your age.
Why are you not questioning why so many people are being quarantined over "Just Another Flu"?

Yep, just another flu. I guess you  lived through SARS., most  people  managed to make  it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 08:00:25 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 07:53:38 AM
Yep, just another flu. I guess you  lived through SARS., most  people  managed to make  it.
This is not SARS, SARS was not a weaponized virus that escaped a CCP lab.
When was the last time you saw Nations close their borders over the flu? Can you answer that?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:03:45 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2003/04/29/842352.htm

"But while SARS is new and frightening, its impact so far has been minor. In a mild year, influenza and its complications kill an estimated 250,000 people around the world. Malaria kills at least a million, mostly children. "

Thats an interesting  article  about the SARS hysteria. One  other  interesting  point  is you  will see  very  few  deaths  in races  other than Asian. As  in sars, corona virus is  going to be a  largely  asian infection.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:14:41 AM
https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/its-catching/202001/the-chinese-coronavirus-is-not-the-zombie-apocalypse

Another  interesting article published  early  in the outbreak but  makes  many good  points.

"Perhaps the biggest problem facing authorities is that the new Coronavirus is relatively mild. With SARS and MERS, people got very sick and were easy to identify. With the new virus, you may have it and not even know. Based on the early statistics, the mortality rate for Coronavirus is roughly 3%, but the true number is probably much, much lower given the likelihood that many people have already been infected but haven't been sick enough to even seek treatment. Will the virus spread around the world? Yes, because it already has. But will it spread en masse? That remains to be seen. But if it does, expect it to be no worse than the flu."

Interesting, they make the  same  point  i have been making  for  days. The  death rate  may even be  lower than the reg  flu because  thousands  have  mostly  likely  had the  virus and  recovered and thought  it was the  common cold.

"The good news about the new virus is that while it appears to spread more easily than its two predecessors, it is far less severe. That fits with a general rule that the more deadly the virus, the harder it is to catch." 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:18:19 AM
If this  is  called a  pandemic, then flu should  be a 24/7 never ending  pandemic. I am 100% certain  in a few  months i will pull this thread  back up and say i was  100% right. One other thing, like the regular  flu the  people who are by  far the  most  at risk are  those  over  65.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 26, 2020, 08:53:16 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:18:19 AM
If this  is  called a  pandemic, then flu should  be a 24/7 never ending  pandemic. I am 100% certain  in a few  months i will pull this thread  back up and say i was  100% right. One other thing, like the regular  flu the  people who are by  far the  most  at risk are  those  over  65.
Why do you suppose other countries are hitting the panic button. I do not recall ever seeing so many huge cities or even small cities quarantined. I do not know but am guessing that the costs with quarantining a city must run into the millions, if unnecessary, then why? I'm on the fence in this one, I am secluded enough so I do not have to see anyone for as long as I want, but I still get mail, still have to get gas and diesel from somewhere, so its never complete isolation. I have to admit I am taking precautions that I would normally not do, but that has more to do with what I feel is the dishonesty from China than anything else. I have not seen anywhere that China is allowing other countries to see for themselves what is going on.  I hope you are right and are 100% correct, but its too early to start placing bets.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:14:41 AM
https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/its-catching/202001/the-chinese-coronavirus-is-not-the-zombie-apocalypse

Another  interesting article published  early  in the outbreak but  makes  many good  points.

"Perhaps the biggest problem facing authorities is that the new Coronavirus is relatively mild. With SARS and MERS, people got very sick and were easy to identify. With the new virus, you may have it and not even know. Based on the early statistics, the mortality rate for Coronavirus is roughly 3%, but the true number is probably much, much lower given the likelihood that many people have already been infected but haven't been sick enough to even seek treatment. Will the virus spread around the world? Yes, because it already has. But will it spread en masse? That remains to be seen. But if it does, expect it to be no worse than the flu."

Interesting, they make the  same  point  i have been making  for  days. The  death rate  may even be  lower than the reg  flu because  thousands  have  mostly  likely  had the  virus and  recovered and thought  it was the  common cold.

"The good news about the new virus is that while it appears to spread more easily than its two predecessors, it is far less severe. That fits with a general rule that the more deadly the virus, the harder it is to catch."
A psychologist, seriously? And yeah, his opinion isn't worth anymore than yours, especially considering he made that statement around the time the rest of the world was waking to the obvious.
Add to that, he's still repeating the lie that it came from an animal.
You can do better, at least try if you are Hell bent on trying to prove this is nothing more than a new flu...

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 09:18:17 AM
Quote from: s3779m on February 26, 2020, 08:53:16 AM
Why do you suppose other countries are hitting the panic button. I do not recall ever seeing so many huge cities or even small cities quarantined. I do not know but am guessing that the costs with quarantining a city must run into the millions, if unnecessary, then why? I'm on the fence in this one, I am secluded enough so I do not have to see anyone for as long as I want, but I still get mail, still have to get gas and diesel from somewhere, so its never complete isolation. I have to admit I am taking precautions that I would normally not do, but that has more to do with what I feel is the dishonesty from China than anything else. I have not seen anywhere that China is allowing other countries to see for themselves what is going on.  I hope you are right and are 100% correct, but its too early to start placing bets.
He doesn't want to address the reality of the situation, that other nation's know the truth about the origins of this virus.
You're Right, we have never witnessed in our life time, nations quarantining cities, borders, people having restricted movement under threat of arrest, forced into self quarantine, this is unprecedented.
When was there ever a flu outbreak that caused a world response such as this?

My only point for starting this thread was over the lies out of China, and looking back, it appears they had good reason to lie and now the worlds govt's know and to avoid panic, they refuse to tell what they know.
I get that, if the people knew the truth, there would probably be rioting in inner cities, with their dog eat dog mentality.

All I can so is bring awareness and hope people prepare accordingly. Like you, I too can avoid contact with the outside world, but for only so long then I too need to get fuel and food for another month.
I hate conspiracies, but until we get the truth, one can only prepare for the worst outcome.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 09:19:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 08:00:25 AM
This is not SARS, SARS was not a weaponized virus that escaped a CCP lab.
When was the last time you saw Nations close their borders over the flu? Can you answer that?
Why did you avoid my question? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 09:44:28 AM
Quote from: s3779m on February 26, 2020, 08:53:16 AM
Why do you suppose other countries are hitting the panic button. I do not recall ever seeing so many huge cities or even small cities quarantined. I do not know but am guessing that the costs with quarantining a city must run into the millions, if unnecessary, then why? I'm on the fence in this one, I am secluded enough so I do not have to see anyone for as long as I want, but I still get mail, still have to get gas and diesel from somewhere, so its never complete isolation. I have to admit I am taking precautions that I would normally not do, but that has more to do with what I feel is the dishonesty from China than anything else. I have not seen anywhere that China is allowing other countries to see for themselves what is going on.  I hope you are right and are 100% correct, but its too early to start placing bets.

Panic  is easy  to spread. Thats the  only reason i can think of. The  media  did  its  best to make  aids the  end  of the earth  by  doing  its  best to claim it was going to spread  into the  general population. Needless to say  it  didnt. Another good thing  is the  flu season is  coming to an end. Nowhere other than china are deaths a  big deal with this. Some will die, up to 661,000 die  of  the  flu.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 09:48:22 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 09:19:07 AM
Why did you avoid my question? :rolleyes:

Simply total unfounded  panic and  i think you  will also observe, and should already  be  observing that very  very  few  people are dying  in any country  other than china. Lots  of  people are dying  of  the  numerous different strains  of  flu however.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 10:11:53 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 09:48:22 AM
Simply total unfounded  panic and  i think you  will also observe, and should already  be  observing that very  very  few  people are dying  in any country  other than china. Lots  of  people are dying  of  the  numerous different strains  of  flu however.
Nope! This thing only just started, they are locking people in quarantine that only have the virus but no symptoms. When have nation's done this over the flu?
Here, when wast the last time you ever heard of a flu victim being forced into quarantine?
I dare you to find an update to her whereabouts today. She was in daily contact up to the day this last story came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93dvy9wkxLI&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on February 26, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
Not surprisingly Pelosi and Schumer are going all in thinking "this" is what is going to get Trump. They are really becoming a real life example of Wyley Coyote.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 26, 2020, 12:44:31 PM
Not surprisingly Pelosi and Schumer are going all in thinking "this" is what is going to get Trump. They are really becoming a real life example of Wyley Coyote.
It's all they have and it won't pan out the way the hope.
Even if we are hit hard, the rest of the world will be harder hit and all economies will suffer. The US won't be hit nearly as hard as the rest of the globe, which is why every free nation is investing in dollars and gold. We will still control the world economy and every American will see we dodged the bullet.

I believe there will be a lot of deaths, but nothing like Iran is about to feel, or a 100 other countries around the globe and come early summer this will all be dying down rapidly, and with reports of a vaccine soon to be released for the next season, everything will return to normal 'Here'.

It's the next couple of months that will be the hardest to deal with, the worry of contracting the disease, run on certain products the relapse of the disease and deaths that follow, the media will beat us over the head with the doom and gloom, but that will only last a little over a month, and the Dims will still be without a winning candidate and no plan moving forward.

Yeah, I've given this a lot of thought in how the left plans to play it, and in the end, they lose even worse because everyone will see they tried to blame something on Trump he had nothing to do with, and did an amazing job of controlling it.

My worries? Ca and the Dims not knowing how to deal with it and making it worse with their need to let in illegals. It could be pretty bad out here when the hospitals are over run with a bunch of illegals filling the beds.
The people will not be happy...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 10:11:53 AM
Nope! This thing only just started, they are locking people in quarantine that only have the virus but no symptoms. When have nation's done this over the flu?
Here, when wast the last time you ever heard of a flu victim being forced into quarantine?
I dare you to find an update to her whereabouts today. She was in daily contact up to the day this last story came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93dvy9wkxLI&feature=emb_logo

I will take a wild  guess and say she  is doing  just  fine, and will live a  long  life(unless a truck runs  over  her).

Im really  surprised the  usually  media  savvy people here seem to have  no clue. We  all know they like to hype  a story  for  ratings, We  know they desperately  want to use this to get Trump, and we  know  they will always  push the  worst case  hysterical scenario. How  many people got the flu today? We wont  hear a single story  about that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 26, 2020, 02:24:03 PM
Solar, what you said earlier makes sense, took me long enough huh, If this was just some a virus from a bat, and could be proven, China would not have been keeping this a secret. They would have shared what they knew and held their hand out for help $. But its not from a bat, this was a weapon and China does not what the world to be able to prove it. I'm guessing for use on Hong Kong to stop the riots? The riots are still ongoing so that might be a bad guess. This could/will be the final nail for Wi.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/01/hong-kong-protests-coronavirus-outbreak/605662/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 02:25:49 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 02:12:44 PM
I will take a wild  guess and say she  is doing  just  fine, and will live a  long  life(unless a truck runs  over  her).

Im really  surprised the  usually  media  savvy people here seem to have  no clue. We  all know they like to hype  a story  for  ratings, We  know they desperately  want to use this to get Trump, and we  know  they will always  push the  worst case  hysterical scenario. How  many people got the flu today? We wont  hear a single story  about that.
The obvious went right over your head. She is being locked in quarantine, hasn't been heard from since the 17th.
Tell me, how many people with the flu get put in lock down?

I don't think you grasp the severity of this strain, one manufactured in a weapons lab that apparently escaped, forced the CCP to lock down the entire community of 20 million people.
What do you think China knew that they weren't telling the rest of the world at the time? Why did they quarantine all these people if it was only a "FLU"?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 04:51:41 PM
I dont  know what  China knows. I do know this is  not  causing widespread death outside  of  china.

Oh, just  heard this  on the weather  channel. So far this  flu season in the  US alone  29 million, yes million have  been infected with about  16,000 deaths. Why no panic about that?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 05:02:47 PM
Just read this article

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/02/forest-grove-mans-cruise-ship-coronavirus-quarantine-ends-his-wife-remains-hospitalized.html

"Rebecca Frasure has been in a Tokyo hospital since Feb. 6. She has repeatedly tested positive for COVID-19, even though she has felt fine and has had virtually no symptoms, she said."

Maybe she  is  one  of the  many who had such a  mild case she didnt  know she  had  it. She  is  going to be  just  fine.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 26, 2020, 05:36:46 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 05:02:47 PM
Just read this article

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/02/forest-grove-mans-cruise-ship-coronavirus-quarantine-ends-his-wife-remains-hospitalized.html

"Rebecca Frasure has been in a Tokyo hospital since Feb. 6. She has repeatedly tested positive for COVID-19, even though she has felt fine and has had virtually no symptoms, she said."

Maybe she  is  one  of the  many who had such a  mild case she didnt  know she  had  it. She  is  going to be  just  fine.
OMG~! How thick can you be?
This is the woman in the video I posted, she tested positive for COVID and is being held against her will. She hasn't been heard from since last week.
If it's only a flu, why is she being held against her will? Because she is considered a "Super Carrier".
Now, tell me genius, if this is simply a flu, why are they quarantining people against their will? Come on, it can't be all that hard.

I've given you evidence that this is a weaponized strain developed in a Chinese weapons research lab, with an HIV added component. Do you even have a clue as to what that means?
It means they spliced the virus and weaponized it, so it becomes virtually incurable. People in China are dying after having recovered, a well known and respected Chinese doctor exposed this information before he too, died.
How about this?
"San Francisco declares state of emergency to help prepare for an outbreak of coronavirus; there are currently no confirmed cases in the city - SF Chronicle"

(https://www.earthfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/02SLIDE_IsolationBoxFlightFromDiamondPrincess-1200x807.png)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wuhan-eases-lockdown-then-retracts-order-3-hours-later-italy-cases-soar-past-200-live
8,000 Californians Under "Self-Imposed Quarantine", South Korea Locks Down City Of 2.5 Million People...

So I ask you again. When has a simple flu outbreak caused this much panic among govts.
So ask yourself, what are they not telling us? I'd tell ya, but I don't want to panic people either, all I can do is hit the alarm button to get people to prepare now and stock up on food and supplies.
Remember, when the time comes and people start panicking, is when there will be a run on everything you take for granted.
Think you have enough beans and rice? Not when people start panic buying.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: topside on February 26, 2020, 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 04:51:41 PM
I dont  know what  China knows. I do know this is  not  causing widespread death outside  of  china.

Oh, just  heard this  on the weather  channel. So far this  flu season in the  US alone  29 million, yes million have  been infected with about  16,000 deaths. Why no panic about that?

16 Thousand / 29 Million is about 0.05% ... Corona Virus is running at about 4 - 5% death rate in a general comparison. Point being that this new virus seems much more problematic. But there are factors- more older people than younger along with other circumstances. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/)

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2020, 06:36:46 AM
Quote from: topside on February 26, 2020, 06:29:53 PM
16 Thousand / 29 Million is about 0.05% ... Corona Virus is running at about 4 - 5% death rate in a general comparison. Point being that this new virus seems much more problematic. But there are factors- more older people than younger along with other circumstances. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/)
:cool:
Interesting. Hadn't heard this in the LSM...Shocked...NOT!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2020, 06:37:00 AM
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1232740008676622336
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: topside on February 26, 2020, 06:29:53 PM
16 Thousand / 29 Million is about 0.05% ... Corona Virus is running at about 4 - 5% death rate in a general comparison. Point being that this new virus seems much more problematic. But there are factors- more older people than younger along with other circumstances. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/)

The death rate  outside  of  1 province  in china  is  about an infintesimal .016%
It was sort  of  funny a  few  minutes ago as the  fox  news talking  head was telling  about the  terrors  of  corona he  just threw  out  a  quick line  about  how  numerous  people have  got  the  virus and  recovered
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 01:44:47 PM
https://www.koin.com/news/health/coronavirus/healthy-then-wearing-a-mask-doesnt-really-do-much/

"Frasure tested positive for the virus in early February while she and her husband were on a cruise off the coast of Japan. She had a fever and mild cough but said she stopped having symptoms after being admitted to a Tokyo hospital for quarantine. She said people in the city have been taking precautions."

As  i thought, she  had the  virus and  it was  nothing.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 01:55:06 PM
I suspect the  overall death rate will continue to drop as its recognized at all the  people who got  it  and thought  it was a  mild  cold and recovered from it. Even though i had to wade through hundreds of  bodies  in the  mall today to buy  a wendys hamburger, im still unconcerned. Tomorrow i will defy fate and eat at a  chinese restaurant. My  bodies comment reminds  me  of other idiotic  hysteria. Remember shep smith reporting  on thethousands  of  bodies floating around  in Katrina? And  of  course the  untold  numbers  of rapes and  murders occuring  in the superdome.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 02:06:07 PM
I just  had another thought. How many people  have croaked  in Hawaii from corona? Afterall numerous chinese people come and  go there and  im sure alot  of them got  in before any travel ban. I think the answer  is  0. Sooner or  later someones death in the US will be attributed to Corona and while people will be running  around  naked  in the streets waiting to die people like me will realize  its  no big  deal.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 26, 2020, 05:36:46 PM
OMG~! How thick can you be?
This is the woman in the video I posted, she tested positive for COVID and is being held against her will. She hasn't been heard from since last week.
If it's only a flu, why is she being held against her will? Because she is considered a "Super Carrier".
Now, tell me genius, if this is simply a flu, why are they quarantining people against their will? Come on, it can't be all that hard.

I've given you evidence that this is a weaponized strain developed in a Chinese weapons research lab, with an HIV added component. Do you even have a clue as to what that means?
It means they spliced the virus and weaponized it, so it becomes virtually incurable. People in China are dying after having recovered, a well known and respected Chinese doctor exposed this information before he too, died.
How about this?
"San Francisco declares state of emergency to help prepare for an outbreak of coronavirus; there are currently no confirmed cases in the city - SF Chronicle"

(https://www.earthfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/02SLIDE_IsolationBoxFlightFromDiamondPrincess-1200x807.png)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wuhan-eases-lockdown-then-retracts-order-3-hours-later-italy-cases-soar-past-200-live
8,000 Californians Under "Self-Imposed Quarantine", South Korea Locks Down City Of 2.5 Million People...

So I ask you again. When has a simple flu outbreak caused this much panic among govts.
So ask yourself, what are they not telling us? I'd tell ya, but I don't want to panic people either, all I can do is hit the alarm button to get people to prepare now and stock up on food and supplies.
Remember, when the time comes and people start panicking, is when there will be a run on everything you take for granted.
Think you have enough beans and rice? Not when people start panic buying.


tahst simple to explain. Total irrational panic  over nothing. One thing the  media  never says  is all the  people who have recovered, not to mention those who had corona and thought  its was a  cough.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 02:11:32 PM
And again, i am stunned that  people here who i thought were media  savvy dont realize they want to report the worst  case scenario in this case for  2 reasons. Hurt Trump and ratings.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 27, 2020, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 02:11:32 PM
And again, i am stunned that  people here who i thought were media  savvy dont realize they want to report the worst  case scenario in this case for  2 reasons. Hurt Trump and ratings.
I knew there was a good reason the chinese quarantined 21 million people. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2020, 03:33:03 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 01:44:47 PM
https://www.koin.com/news/health/coronavirus/healthy-then-wearing-a-mask-doesnt-really-do-much/

"Frasure tested positive for the virus in early February while she and her husband were on a cruise off the coast of Japan. She had a fever and mild cough but said she stopped having symptoms after being admitted to a Tokyo hospital for quarantine. She said people in the city have been taking precautions."

As  i thought, she  had the  virus and  it was  nothing.
She is what is being called a "Super Spreader". Why is she still in quarantine if this is just another ordinary bug?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on February 27, 2020, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 02:11:32 PM
And again, i am stunned that  people here who i thought were media  savvy dont realize they want to report the worst  case scenario in this case for  2 reasons. Hurt Trump and ratings.

Cool story....

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-scientists-say-they-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-few-weeks
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2020, 03:35:54 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 02:06:07 PM
I just  had another thought. How many people  have croaked  in Hawaii from corona? Afterall numerous chinese people come and  go there and  im sure alot  of them got  in before any travel ban. I think the answer  is  0. Sooner or  later someones death in the US will be attributed to Corona and while people will be running  around  naked  in the streets waiting to die people like me will realize  its  no big  deal.
No you didn't, that would require thinking.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2020, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 27, 2020, 02:11:32 PM
And again, i am stunned that  people here who i thought were media  savvy dont realize they want to report the worst  case scenario in this case for  2 reasons. Hurt Trump and ratings.
You Fool! This has absolutely nothing to do with the media. If anything, the media is downplaying it so as to avoid a panic.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2020, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: taxed on February 27, 2020, 03:33:44 PM
Cool story....

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-scientists-say-they-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-few-weeks
That is totally cool!!!
If they pull this off, they could save millions from a lifetime of debilitation.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on February 27, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 27, 2020, 03:47:13 PM
That is totally cool!!!
If they pull this off, they could save millions from a lifetime of debilitation.

Very interesting they "just happened" to have been working on coronavirus....  as if we (US/Israel intel) knew what China/Russia were going to try.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2020, 04:04:28 PM
Quote from: taxed on February 27, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
Very interesting they "just happened" to have been working on coronavirus....  as if we (US/Israel intel) knew what China/Russia were going to try.
:biggrin:
Geee, what an amazing coincidence? NOT!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2020, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: s3779m on February 27, 2020, 03:27:37 PM
I knew there was a good reason the chinese quarantined 21 million people.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: HUGE BREAKING NEWS: Israeli Researchers on Cusp of Creating Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: American Exceptionalism on February 28, 2020, 03:32:37 AM
Could be Ready in a Few Weeks and Available in 90 Days

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/huge-breaking-news-israeli-researchers-on-cusp-of-creating-coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-ready-in-a-few-weeks-and-available-in-90-days/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on February 28, 2020, 04:47:01 AM
Hell just froze over folks.............the Associated Press (AP) just called out the democrats for lyin' over the misinformation they are spreading over the readiness of President Trump's plan to combat this bat crazy coronavirus....... :thumbsup:

AP Confirms: Democrats Are Lying to the Public About Coronavirus Readiness

An Associated Press fact check confirms what Breitbart News reported earlier this week: that Democrat presidential candidates are falsely claiming that President Donald Trump cut funding and personnel needed to fight coronavirus.

READ MORE HERE.....
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/02/27/ap-confirms-democrats-are-lying-to-the-public-about-coronavirus/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20200227&utm_content=A

And for all the democrats that hate the reporting truth of Breitbart READ HERE....
https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on February 28, 2020, 05:05:43 AM
I just heard that the first case of the Corona Virus being transmitted from a human to a dog has been reported in Hong Kong. Keep your doggies safe.  :cry:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: American Exceptionalism on February 28, 2020, 05:14:34 AM
Quote from: wally on February 28, 2020, 05:05:43 AM
I just heard that the first case of the Corona Virus being transmitted from a human to a dog has been reported in Hong Kong. Keep your doggies safe.  :cry:

Read that as well.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11060913/dog-coronavirus-test-positive/
Title: Re: HUGE BREAKING NEWS: Israeli Researchers on Cusp of Creating Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 06:12:16 AM
Let's keep these stories corralled in the COVID thread, otherwise the forum will be overrun with this and nothing else in the coming days.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on February 28, 2020, 06:14:46 AM
Now this is interesting... Dean Koontz 1981 NYT Best seller  The Eyes of Darkness

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89043070_2715064565215938_2906282005584936960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=_RRuLrYGiwgAX8F9hE_&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=8dd08f37871245f9e1dde14b660ce443&oe=5EF5C9B4)

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89038488_2715064608549267_762256132675731456_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=AUdzGg89e38AX8tFH02&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=d280bdcdf544384717b98e9661954e63&oe=5EEC5F4D)

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89003723_2715053905217004_7189943027811483648_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=1YDBtZqBCRAAX8ZgT8w&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=6fd4251b26d5dca94df95c548e0ad839&oe=5EF4A6D4)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 06:23:30 AM
Quote from: Bronx on February 28, 2020, 04:47:01 AM
Hell just froze over folks.............the Associated Press (AP) just called out the democrats for lyin' over the misinformation they are spreading over the readiness of President Trump's plan to combat this bat crazy coronavirus....... :thumbsup:

AP Confirms: Democrats Are Lying to the Public About Coronavirus Readiness

An Associated Press fact check confirms what Breitbart News reported earlier this week: that Democrat presidential candidates are falsely claiming that President Donald Trump cut funding and personnel needed to fight coronavirus.

READ MORE HERE.....
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/02/27/ap-confirms-democrats-are-lying-to-the-public-about-coronavirus/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20200227&utm_content=A

And for all the democrats that hate the reporting truth of Breitbart READ HERE....
https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104
BINGO!!!
Could the dims dig any deeper? Politicizing Catastrophe is so weak, especially when you try and scare people into following you.
The Dims better get used to the fact, they no longer own the media, we do, so no matter what they print, we'll be there to turn it against them.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 06:25:02 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on February 28, 2020, 06:14:46 AM
Now this is interesting... Dean Koontz 1981 NYT Best seller  The Eyes of Darkness

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89043070_2715064565215938_2906282005584936960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=_RRuLrYGiwgAX8F9hE_&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=8dd08f37871245f9e1dde14b660ce443&oe=5EF5C9B4)

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89038488_2715064608549267_762256132675731456_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=AUdzGg89e38AX8tFH02&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=d280bdcdf544384717b98e9661954e63&oe=5EEC5F4D)

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89003723_2715053905217004_7189943027811483648_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=1YDBtZqBCRAAX8ZgT8w&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=6fd4251b26d5dca94df95c548e0ad839&oe=5EF4A6D4)
Holy Shit, what in the Hell did he know at the time?
This had to have been sourced from an insider, there is no way he this prophetic!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 06:31:13 AM
Quote from: American Exceptionalism on February 28, 2020, 05:14:34 AM
Read that as well.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11060913/dog-coronavirus-test-positive/
I'm going to call BS On this one, not to mention the Sun is a leftist Tabloid Rag...

The dog has been quarantined by officials, suggesting they have concerns that the pet could pass on the disease.

If confirmed, the Pomeranian would mark the first case of coronavirus in a pet animal, as infected numbers topped 82,000 worldwide.

Nothing to see here, move along!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: American Exceptionalism on February 28, 2020, 07:07:00 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 28, 2020, 06:31:13 AM
I'm going to call BS On this one, not to mention the Sun is a leftist Tabloid Rag...

The dog has been quarantined by officials, suggesting they have concerns that the pet could pass on the disease.

If confirmed, the Pomeranian would mark the first case of coronavirus in a pet animal, as infected numbers topped 82,000 worldwide.

Nothing to see here, move along!


:laugh:  I know. When I read it was from The Sun I wasn't sure whether to put it here or the Entertainment Section.  Considering how many dogs there are, it's just one? If true at all. :confused:
Title: Re: HUGE BREAKING NEWS: Israeli Researchers on Cusp of Creating Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: American Exceptionalism on February 28, 2020, 07:08:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 28, 2020, 06:12:16 AM
Let's keep these stories corralled in the COVID thread, otherwise the forum will be overrun with this and nothing else in the coming days.

No problem. Forgot all it about it when I posted it. Maybe you, taxed or walks can move it there. Thanks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:24:35 AM
A rational person said  on fox spring  is  coming  when virus's recede. Again, no evidence this  is anything worse than flu.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 07:26:10 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:24:35 AM
A rational person said  on fox spring  is  coming  when virus's recede. Again, no evidence this  is anything worse than flu.
Yes, that was me. Flu season generally dissipates in the summer.

Take a look at this, this is the CCP approved and scrubbed video out of Wuhan.

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1233398919771672578
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:27:28 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on February 28, 2020, 06:14:46 AM
Now this is interesting... Dean Koontz 1981 NYT Best seller  The Eyes of Darkness

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89043070_2715064565215938_2906282005584936960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=_RRuLrYGiwgAX8F9hE_&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=8dd08f37871245f9e1dde14b660ce443&oe=5EF5C9B4)

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89038488_2715064608549267_762256132675731456_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=AUdzGg89e38AX8tFH02&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=d280bdcdf544384717b98e9661954e63&oe=5EEC5F4D)

(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89003723_2715053905217004_7189943027811483648_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=1YDBtZqBCRAAX8ZgT8w&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=6fd4251b26d5dca94df95c548e0ad839&oe=5EF4A6D4)

What  a  joke. Resisting all known treatments? Corona  cant even resist the time  honored rest, chicken soup, and vitamin C. Thousands upon thousands have recovered from the slight fever and sniffles.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 07:28:53 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:27:28 AM
What  a  joke. Resisting all known treatments? Corona  cant even resist the time  honored rest, chicken soup, and vitamin C. Thousands upon thousands have recovered from the slight fever and sniffles.
Did you even read the headline?

"Dean Koontz 1981 NYT Best seller  The Eyes of Darkness"
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:30:46 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 28, 2020, 07:26:10 AM
Yes, that was me. Flu season generally dissipates in the summer.

Take a look at this, this is the CCP approved and scrubbed video out of Wuhan.

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1233398919771672578

Media  wont  play for  me.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 07:32:05 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:30:46 AM
Media  wont  play for  me.
Try a different browser!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:36:50 AM
I  only  have  firefox. The  coverage  on this  is so assinine. Every  new case  is reported  like  its  some disaster. Why not  report every  case  of the  flu.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:42:17 AM
Just  heard something stupid that was reported like the end  of the  world  is  coming. Dr Falchi stated the  corona virus wont  disappear next  year? Is he really  that stupid? No flu virus  just  disappears. Corona will be around  for  thousands  of years. This flu season the dreaded H1N1 scare  of  2009 was the  dominant for  of the seasonal flu. So what?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on February 28, 2020, 07:46:08 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:36:50 AM
I  only  have  firefox. The  coverage  on this  is so assinine. Every  new case  is reported  like  its  some disaster. Why not  report every  case  of the  flu.

I use Firefox for this site and have removed the shield for this site. 

Also I stated in my title that is was from a Dean Koontz book - a fictional writer. Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 07:54:38 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 07:42:17 AM
Just  heard something stupid that was reported like the end  of the  world  is  coming. Dr Falchi stated the  corona virus wont  disappear next  year? Is he really  that stupid? No flu virus  just  disappears. Corona will be around  for  thousands  of years. This flu season the dreaded H1N1 scare  of  2009 was the  dominant for  of the seasonal flu. So what?
You do realize the Corona virus has been in existence longer than we ever knew, it is nothing by itself, be it runny nose coughing, but what made it such a threat, is the Fact That It Was Fucking Weaponized, You Dumb Ass!!!
It now carries a variant of HIV that was spliced into it! How is it you are the last moron on the planet to know this? The Chinese made a weapon out of a simple cold virus, and it escaped the weapons lab!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 08:00:21 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 28, 2020, 07:54:38 AM
You do realize the Corona virus has been in existence longer than we ever knew, it is nothing by itself, be it runny nose coughing, but what made it such a threat, is the Fact That It Was Fucking Weaponized, You Dumb Ass!!!
It now carries a variant of HIV that was spliced into it! How is it you are the last moron on the planet to know this? The Chinese made a weapon out of a simple cold virus, and it escaped the weapons lab!!!

I just  dont  believe  in conspiracy theories and  i dont  for  a second think its weaponized  in any way. Just about everyone  is recovering from it. I guess we can find  out  if the  poor  woman from Forest Grove has HIV or any variant  of  it. I  havent  heard any reports  from any media  that  anyone  has gotten aids from this.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 08:04:42 AM
Hey guys, I know it's going to be hard very soon not to post about the virus, but let's try and keep them here, otherwise that's all the forum will consist of in the coming weeks.
The media is trying to blame Trump, and no one will buy it, but let's not let them run the narrative on this. Let's keep hammering them on their failures, of which no doubt, the virus is a perfect cover for them, if they can get you to focus on it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 08:13:34 AM
I found this article  saying  some  Feng  guy retracted his statement  Hiv was somehow inserted into corona

https://nationalfile.com/scientist-explains-new-study-revealing-coronavirus-may-have-links-to-hiv/

I also saw  numerous articles telling  how an HIV grug  might  be  helpful in treatment  but  no reliable  article  saying this  is weaponized with HIV.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 28, 2020, 08:13:34 AM
I found this article  saying  some  Feng  guy retracted his statement  Hiv was somehow inserted into corona

https://nationalfile.com/scientist-explains-new-study-revealing-coronavirus-may-have-links-to-hiv/

I also saw  numerous articles telling  how an HIV grug  might  be  helpful in treatment  but  no reliable  article  saying this  is weaponized with HIV.
And you can't see the lie here? One claims there is no such connection, yet HIV drugs seem to help?
Man, you're dumber than a Blivet. (No insult to blivets intended)

Go back through this thread and learn something for a change.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 09:28:53 AM
I'd like to point something out here. Fairfield Ca is where Travis AFB is located, the same place they're housing people in quarantine
For those of you who have ever had the privilege of flying in and out of there, probably experienced the extreme winds that cut through this huge base due to Bay Area winds coming off the ocean via the Golden Gate opening in route to the Delta, what we in the valley call the Delta Breeze.

My point is. Did this virus survive the moist winds that effect Vacaville? I'm not saying this is the cause, but if this is even remotely possible, it may explain how this single individual, they claim had no exposure to anyone with the virus.
Or does it expose the fact that there may be a super spreader, someone that carries the virus, yet immune to its affliction?

Technically the base is isolated, but is it?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Travis_AFB_California_1993.jpeg/1200px-Travis_AFB_California_1993.jpeg)

(https://s2.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/e/e/37469d58d2d9bbf4167c430f00e3328e5ef1199f4a6dbb95d083c45d395493/061112-F-6911G-183.JPG?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.defense.gov%2F2006%2FNov%2F15%2F2000534524%2F-1%2F-1%2F0%2F061112-F-6911G-183.JPG&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=1)

Northern California city at epicenter of coronavirus mystery

VACAVILLE, Calif. (AP) — Residents of a Northern California community are at the epicenter of what officials are calling a turning point in the spread of the highly contagious coronavirus, as investigators try to retrace the steps of a hospitalized woman they believe to be the first in the U.S. to be infected without traveling internationally or being in close contact with anyone who had it.

As infectious disease experts fanned out in Vacaville, some residents in the city of 100,000 stocked up on supplies amid fears things could get worse despite official reassurances, while others took the news in stride.

The city lies between San Francisco and Sacramento in Solano County, in the agricultural Central Valley and near California's famous wine region.

It is about 10 miles (16 kilometers) from Travis Air Force Base, which has been used as a virus quarantine location. Public health officials said they can find no connection between the infected woman and passengers on the Diamond Princess cruise ship who were evacuated to the base when the ship was docked in Japan.

The case of the infected woman marks an escalation of the worldwide outbreak in the U.S. because it means the virus could spread beyond the reach of preventative measures like quarantines, though state health officials said that was inevitable and that the risk of widespread transmission remains low.

But McKinsey Paz, her husband and her boss at a Vacaville private security company weren't taking any chances. They hustled to a warehouse store Thursday to buy bottled water, canned food, staples like rice and beans and cases of toilet paper and paper towels.

"We're not sure what's going to happen. Panic seems to do that to you," Paz said. "In case things get a little crazy, we didn't want to be the last ones. We're preparing for the worst."

Solano County Public Health Officer Dr. Bela Matyas said public health officials have identified dozens of people — but less than 100 — who had close contact with the woman. They are quarantined in their homes and a few who have shown symptoms are in isolation, Matyas said.

Officials are not too worried, for now, about casual contact, because federal officials think the coronavirus is spread only through "close contact, being within six feet of somebody for what they're calling a prolonged period of time," said Dr. James Watt, interim state epidemiologist at the California Department of Public Health.



https://apnews.com/57177e2e35d7d0d518361166935c614e
Title: Coronavirus reappears in discharged patients
Post by: Solar on February 28, 2020, 11:32:25 AM
Coronavirus reappears in discharged patients, raising questions in containment fight


SHANGHAI/LONDON (Reuters) - A growing number of discharged coronavirus patients in China and elsewhere are testing positive after recovering, sometimes weeks after being allowed to leave the hospital, which could make the epidemic harder to eradicate.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-reinfection-explainer/explainer-coronavirus-reappears-in-discharged-patients-raising-questions-in-containment-fight-idUSKCN20M124
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on February 29, 2020, 07:15:57 AM
(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/88157544_10157830235370390_7452130474626908160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=l71sr1fwMDYAX_QoVGC&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&oh=284a8cee5592a7d4a18029ed3eaf3353&oe=5F02D589)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 29, 2020, 11:54:44 AM
Man in Washington state first in US to die from new virus

A man has died in Washington state of COVID-19, state health officials said Saturday, marking the first such reported death in the United States.

State officials issued a terse news release announcing the death, gave no details and scheduled a news conference. A spokesperson for EvergreenHealth Medical Center, Kayse Dahl, said the person died in the facility in the Seattle suburb of Kirkland, but gave no other details.

State and King County health officials said "new people (have been) identified with the infection, one of whom died." They did not say how many new cases there are.

https://apnews.com/f175d89567a26d59cab27725c9e8a0d7
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on February 29, 2020, 12:23:54 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 29, 2020, 11:54:44 AM
Man in Washington state first in US to die from new virus

A man has died in Washington state of COVID-19, state health officials said Saturday, marking the first such reported death in the United States.

State officials issued a terse news release announcing the death, gave no details and scheduled a news conference. A spokesperson for EvergreenHealth Medical Center, Kayse Dahl, said the person died in the facility in the Seattle suburb of Kirkland, but gave no other details.

State and King County health officials said "new people (have been) identified with the infection, one of whom died." They did not say how many new cases there are.

https://apnews.com/f175d89567a26d59cab27725c9e8a0d7

It was reported the person was in their 50's and had medical issues. I heard this listening to the president's briefing.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 29, 2020, 12:51:12 PM
Don't think you can't catch it again...

People who have gotten the new coronavirus and recovered can get it again in the future, health authorities say — the body does not become immune after infection.

On Wednesday, Japanese authorities reported the first confirmed case of reinfection. A tour guide in Osaka first tested positive for the coronavirus in late January, then was discharged from the hospital three weeks ago after showing signs of recovery. But she returned to the hospital after developing a sore throat and chest pain and tested positive for the coronavirus once again.

Zhan Qingyuan, director of pneumonia prevention and treatment at the China-Japan Friendship Hospital, warned last month that this could  happen.

"For those patients who have been cured, there is a likelihood of a relapse," Zhan said in a briefing on January 31. "The antibody will be generated; however, in certain individuals, the antibody cannot last that long."

Reinfections among patients in China have been reported as well.

"Once you have the infection, it could remain dormant and with minimal symptoms, and then you can get an exacerbation if it finds its way into the lungs," Philip Tierno, a professor at the NYU School of Medicine, told Reuters.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-risk-of-reinfection-2020-2
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 29, 2020, 01:20:56 PM
Thought I'd mention, if you were considering buying the N-95 mask, the one that actually protects you from COVID?
Forget it!
I was trying to order an Airpro face shield pressurized air transfer for when I do dozer work to keep the dust out, they told me they were out of stock, on just about everything.

(https://www.envirosafetyproducts.com/media/product/715/trend-airshield-pro-air-pro-face-shield-usa-120v-u-air-pro-376.jpg)

So I asked about back order and they'll call me Monday. :rolleyes:
So I asked what do they have. He chuckled and said anything N-95 related had been locked up by the govt, that all 3M products were being redirected to Govt facilities.

N-95 style. This is just an example of how many variations there are, but this should help you recognize it, they usually have evidence of charcoal embedded in them.
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.makrite.com%2Fwp-content%2FNIOSH%2FP95-Series%2FP95-710VOV.jpg&hash=99a6d558bfe936d400404939927b13a805074e6f)

So if you think you can get your hands on an N95, I suggest you move on it, they won't be available for long.

Here's a site that has a good display of N95 masks so you can recognize them, but they won't sell them, and if they do? You won't get it until well after this thing passes, this year, but it will be BAAACKKK!!!.

https://www.gersonco.com/product/1845-r95-particulate-respirator/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 01, 2020, 08:51:47 AM
Panic buying starts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL4bt43dkvg
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 01, 2020, 11:30:24 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 29, 2020, 01:20:56 PM
Thought I'd mention, if you were considering buying the N-95 mask, the one that actually protects you from COVID?
Forget it!
I was trying to order an Airpro face shield pressurized air transfer for when I do dozer work to keep the dust out, they told me they were out of stock, on just about everything.

(https://www.envirosafetyproducts.com/media/product/715/trend-airshield-pro-air-pro-face-shield-usa-120v-u-air-pro-376.jpg)

So I asked about back order and they'll call me Monday. :rolleyes:
So I asked what do they have. He chuckled and said anything N-95 related had been locked up by the govt, that all 3M products were being redirected to Govt facilities.

N-95 style. This is just an example of how many variations there are, but this should help you recognize it, they usually have evidence of charcoal embedded in them.
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.makrite.com%2Fwp-content%2FNIOSH%2FP95-Series%2FP95-710VOV.jpg&hash=99a6d558bfe936d400404939927b13a805074e6f)

So if you think you can get your hands on an N95, I suggest you move on it, they won't be available for long.

Here's a site that has a good display of N95 masks so you can recognize them, but they won't sell them, and if they do? You won't get it until well after this thing passes, this year, but it will be BAAACKKK!!!.

https://www.gersonco.com/product/1845-r95-particulate-respirator/

In a pinch....  :rolleyes:
(https://i.imgur.com/Ge9Twrp.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: VVet69 on March 01, 2020, 11:45:39 AM
This is pretty interesting... from Seattle: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1233970271318503426.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1233970271318503426.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 01, 2020, 11:49:19 AM
Quote from: VVet69 on March 01, 2020, 11:45:39 AM
This is pretty interesting... from Seattle: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1233970271318503426.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1233970271318503426.html)
Interesting!!! I'm definitely going to delve deeper into this information. :thumbup:

In related news....

https://twitter.com/KristenhCNN/status/1234187454200111104
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on March 01, 2020, 12:28:08 PM
Facebook calls out liberal fake news Politico for attacking Trump on his response on the coronavirus.

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1234103982395621377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1234103982395621377&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2020%2F03%2F01%2Fbusted-pull-your-heads-outta-yer-arses-media-even-facebook-fact-checkers-are-calling-bs-on-trump-coronavirus-hoax-story%2F
Title: On the lighter side....
Post by: Solar on March 01, 2020, 12:55:18 PM
Well, if you've got to be quarantined, I could think of a lot worse places. :biggrin:


119 People Quarantined In A Brothel In Spain

(https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/strip_0.png?itok=4L0hg0BJ)


Define Normal In A Brothell. :biggrin:

In addition to the customers, the club's owners, waitresses, security and cleaning crew were also quarantined. When added to the total of 86 customers, it makes 119 people under quarantine. They have been asked to "keep calm" and to just "live a normal life" inside the premises.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/silver-linings-playbook-119-people-quarantined-brothel-spain
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 01, 2020, 12:58:37 PM
Quote from: VVet69 on March 01, 2020, 11:45:39 AM
This is pretty interesting... from Seattle: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1233970271318503426.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1233970271318503426.html)
From what I read, it would appear that Washington State is about to have a huge outbreak within days?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 01, 2020, 04:10:19 PM
WOW ! Talk about stupid!!!

https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1234087806533808128
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 01, 2020, 05:17:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Ju1ndxd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dFXw69d.jpg)

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 01, 2020, 05:23:46 PM
Quote from: wally on March 01, 2020, 05:17:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Ju1ndxd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dFXw69d.jpg)
Hey Wally, check out how I resized your pics. You can experiment with the numbers, but do us a favor, size them down, anyone on a mobile can't see them.

Just hit quoe on your post and look for this at the beginning of the address.

[img width=300 height=250]
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 01, 2020, 08:10:32 PM
So they claim...

Coronavirus: critically ill Chinese patient saved by stem cell therapy, study says
65-year-old woman in Kunming hospital intensive care unit showed no adverse effects to her first shot and after two was up and walking again, researchers say

A 65-year-old Chinese woman who fell seriously ill after being infected with the coronavirus made a startling recovery after being given stem cell therapy, according to a new study by Chinese scientists.
The patient had been fighting for her life in the intensive care unit at Baoshan Hospital in Kunming, the capital of southwest China's Yunnan province, for nearly two weeks after contracting Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus.
But according to a paper published by a team of researchers from Kunming University led by Dr Hu Min, just four days after being given her first shot of umbilical cord stem cells, the woman was back on her feet and able to walk.
"Although only one case was shown here, it could be very important and inspire similar clinical practices in treating critically ill Covid-19 patients," said the study, which was published on Thursday on Chinaxiv.org, a platform for the release of scientific papers that have yet to be peer-reviewed.
The treatment "might be an ideal choice to be used or combined with other immune modulating agents", it said.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3053080/coronavirus-critically-ill-chinese-patient-saved-stem-cell
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2020, 04:58:14 AM
There is an upside to this bug...

Coronavirus: Iran council member close to supreme leader Khamenei dies of Covid-19

A member of a council that advises Iran's supreme leader died on Monday after falling sick from the new coronavirus, state radio reported, becoming the first top official to succumb to the illness that is affecting members of the Islamic Republic's leadership.
The death of Expediency Council member Mohammad Mirmohammadi came as Iran announced the virus had killed 66 people among 1,501 confirmed cases in the country.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/3064610/coronavirus-iran-council-member-close-supreme-leader-dies
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2020, 06:03:52 AM
Perfect example as to why socialized medicine will always fail when it's needed most.


Italy
Italy's health system at limit in virus-struck Lombardy


MILAN (AP) — The coronavirus outbreak in northern Italy has so overwhelmed the public health system that officials are taking extraordinary measures to care for the sick, seeking to bring doctors...

https://apnews.com/837274f1bab9af1aab12f1b9481b2d62


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2020, 09:26:52 AM
This is what I was trying to warn you about, people panicking.
This store is just down the mountain from me.

https://twitter.com/agaliciadiaz_/status/1234301933566996481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1234301933566996481&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fcoronavirus-fears-mask-hand-sanitizer-water-toilet-paper-shortages-costco-walmart-target-1489981


CORONAVIRUS FEARS SEE MASK, HAND SANITIZER, WATER, TOILET PAPER SHORTAGES AT COSTCO, WALMART AND TARGET

ears over the COVID-19 virus have seen home supplies, including face masks, hand sanitizers, disinfectants, water, toilet paper and medication, run out at major retailers and local stores across the country.

Shoppers have been posting images of empty shelves on social media at various retail chains, including Costco, Walmart, Target and Home Depot. Consumers have reported shortages in California, Washington, Minnesota, Hawaii, and New York.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2020, 12:33:49 PM
Bodies piling up in Iran Morgue...

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1234869785386717184
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2020, 12:49:47 PM
Coronavirus more deadly than flu but containable: WHO's Tedros

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coronavirus-health-who/coronavirus-more-deadly-than-flu-but-containable-whos-tedros-idUSKBN20Q2G6
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: 1 CAT FAN on March 03, 2020, 04:45:32 PM
In the U.S., Walgreens, Home Depot, Lowe's and True Value Hardware are reporting a sharp uptick in sales of masks over the past several weeks and say they are scrambling to get more from suppliers.

Dealmed, a New York company that makes and sells medical supplies, said it expects to sell out of face masks next week. It temporarily stopped taking orders from new customers a month ago and ended sales on Amazon and Walmart.com. It now is selling only to buyers that need them most, such as hospitals, doctors' offices or government agencies.

Sales of gloves, gowns and other items jumped as much as 300% in February from the year before, said Michael Einhorn, Dealmed's president. Sales of face masks are so astronomical, he said, he hasn't been able to calculate them.

Dr. John Huber, a clinical psychologist and chairman of the Austin, Texas-based nonprofit Mainstream Mental Health, said retailers need to do a better job of allaying customers' fears and sharing the CDC's advice.

"It's the fear of the unknown,'' Huber said. "Once we understand something, we tend not to be so fearful."
https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2020-02-28/coronavirus-fear-touches-off-a-global-run-on-face-masks (https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2020-02-28/coronavirus-fear-touches-off-a-global-run-on-face-masks)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 03, 2020, 04:57:23 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2020, 12:33:49 PM
Bodies piling up in Iran Morgue...

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1234869785386717184
Would not put it past iran or china, or north korea for that matter to use this to get rid of some undesirables.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: murph1953 on March 03, 2020, 06:39:01 PM
February 19, 2020
CytoSorbents Enters Agreement with China Medical System Holdings Limited to Bring CytoSorb to Mainland China to Treat Critically-ill Patients with COVID-19 Coronavirus Infection
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cytosorbents-enters-agreement-china-medical-120000872.html

February 28, 2020
CytoSorb Shipment Arrives in Designated Mainland China Hospitals to Treat Cytokine Storm in Critically-ill Patients with COVID-19 Coronavirus Infection
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cytosorb-shipment-arrives-designated-mainland-120000670.html

EU
Cytosorb
Already approved in EU:
click on "influenza" box on right side
https://literature.cytosorb-therapy.com/

Germany will probably soon be the 1st to announce a successful case report on COVID 19.
This saves lives of those in ICU.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2020, 06:46:28 PM
Quote from: murph1953 on March 03, 2020, 06:39:01 PM
February 19, 2020
CytoSorbents Enters Agreement with China Medical System Holdings Limited to Bring CytoSorb to Mainland China to Treat Critically-ill Patients with COVID-19 Coronavirus Infection
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cytosorbents-enters-agreement-china-medical-120000872.html

February 28, 2020
CytoSorb Shipment Arrives in Designated Mainland China Hospitals to Treat Cytokine Storm in Critically-ill Patients with COVID-19 Coronavirus Infection
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cytosorb-shipment-arrives-designated-mainland-120000670.html

EU
Cytosorb
Already approved in EU:
click on "influenza" box on right side
https://literature.cytosorb-therapy.com/

Germany will probably soon be the 1st to announce a successful case report on COVID 19.
This saves lives of those in ICU.
Pretty cool, let's hope it's soon./
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2020, 12:01:33 PM
Too funny! Gone VIRAL. :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=238&v=6IOS7-4n12c&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 05, 2020, 11:18:18 AM

Not a nice bug...

A Beijing Hospital Confirms Covid-19 Attacks Central Nervous System

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/beijing-hospital-confirms-covid-19-attacks-central-nervous-system
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 06, 2020, 08:24:31 AM
It's the evil Jooos!!! :rolleyes:

This is what ignorance gets you, stupid people.

https://twitter.com/sfrantzman/status/1235910682735980544
Title: 21 positive for coronavirus on cruise ship off California
Post by: Solar on March 06, 2020, 03:53:58 PM
21 positive for coronavirus on cruise ship off California

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Twenty-one people aboard a mammoth cruise ship off the California coast tested positive for the new coronavirus, including 19 crew members, Vice President Mike Pence announced Friday, amid evidence the vessel was the breeding ground for a deadly cluster of at least 10 cases during its previous voyage.

Federal officials have been working with California authorities and "we have developed a plan to bring the ship to a non-commercial port," Pence said. "All passengers and crew will be tested for the virus. Those that will need to be quarantined will be quarantined. Those who will require medical help will receive it."

Pence said 46 of the more than 3,500 people on board were tested in the first round. A military helicopter crew lowered test kits onto the 951-foot (290-meter) Grand Princess by rope Thursday and later retrieved them for analysis as the vessel waited off San Francisco, under orders to keep its distance from shore.

Health officials trying to establish whether the virus is circulating on the Grand Princess undertook the testing after reporting that a passenger on a previous voyage of the ship, in February, died of the disease.

In the past few days, health authorities disclosed that at least nine other people who were on the same journey also were found to be infected. And some passengers on that trip stayed aboard for the current voyage.

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Twenty-one people aboard a mammoth cruise ship off the California coast tested positive for the new coronavirus, including 19 crew members, Vice President Mike Pence announced Friday, amid evidence the vessel was the breeding ground for a deadly cluster of at least 10 cases during its previous voyage.

Federal officials have been working with California authorities and "we have developed a plan to bring the ship to a non-commercial port," Pence said. "All passengers and crew will be tested for the virus. Those that will need to be quarantined will be quarantined. Those who will require medical help will receive it."

Pence said 46 of the more than 3,500 people on board were tested in the first round. A military helicopter crew lowered test kits onto the 951-foot (290-meter) Grand Princess by rope Thursday and later retrieved them for analysis as the vessel waited off San Francisco, under orders to keep its distance from shore.

Health officials trying to establish whether the virus is circulating on the Grand Princess undertook the testing after reporting that a passenger on a previous voyage of the ship, in February, died of the disease.

In the past few days, health authorities disclosed that at least nine other people who were on the same journey also were found to be infected. And some passengers on that trip stayed aboard for the current voyage.

Video...

https://apnews.com/61a4efa966c02cbda9584f7266b99802
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: American Exceptionalism on March 07, 2020, 07:20:02 AM
A closer look at the Ebola drug that's become the top hope for a coronavirus treatment


Hopes are highest for remdesivir, an experimental antiviral developed by Gilead for use against Ebola but since pressed into study for the new coronavirus.

https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/coronavirus-remdesivir-gilead-antiviral-drug-covid-19/573261/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 07, 2020, 08:12:54 AM
Leader Of Italy's Democratic Party Tests Positive For Covid-19, Iranian Lawmaker Dies: Live Updates


Democratic Party leader Nicola Zingarelli, one of the most powerful politicians in Italy, has tested positive for the coronavirus, Italian media reported on Saturday.


Since the beginning of the outbreak, Italy has been the epicenter of the outbreak in Europe; on Friday, the total number of confirmed cases in the country climbed above 4,500, with 197 deaths confirmed.

"I have coronavirus too," Zingaretti said in a video posted on Facebook, adding he was in self-isolation at home and that all the people he had been in contact with in the latest days were being contacted for checks. He said he was well.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/leader-italys-democratic-party-tests-positive-covid-19-live-updates
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on March 07, 2020, 01:18:49 PM
I dont know if you guys can open this link from facebook but it's hilariously funny..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/pedro.campos.18659/videos/10221901893195715/UzpfSTEwMDAwNTE5OTM2Nzc4MToxMzE3MjUxNzc4NDU4MTIy/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 07, 2020, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: Bronx on March 07, 2020, 01:18:49 PM
I dont know if you guys can open this link from facebook but it's hilariously funny..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.facebook.com/pedro.campos.18659/videos/10221901893195715/UzpfSTEwMDAwNTE5OTM2Nzc4MToxMzE3MjUxNzc4NDU4MTIy/
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, I saw that yesterday when the wife showed me.  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 07, 2020, 03:59:45 PM
Unprecedented! I know this area well, about 20 miles as the crow flies from me down in the foothills.
An upper middle income area, that didn't even exist till about 20 years ago, exploded under growth as Bay Area rats escaped their feces ridden city.

Now this? A Huge WTF!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=160&v=prsjjk_A0u8&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: murph1953 on March 09, 2020, 10:26:10 AM
Now china needs something made in the USA

"new weapon"! "total attack"!

This is translated from the sections just above the 3rd photo. See the blood-filled filter the middle MD is holding?
Caption beneath photo:
"Nephrology team launched hemofiltration adsorption and cytosorb adsorption treatment earlier"(肾内科团队较早开展血滤吸附和cytosorb吸附治疗)

https://www.sohu.com/a/377959531_102327

"Try new technologies and projects, give patients hope..

"The Nephrology team earlier launched hemofiltration adsorption and cytosorb adsorption to treat the inflammatory storm.
At its busiest time, the quality of 6 CRRTs was performed 24 hours simultaneously. So far, hemofiltration adsorption has been involved in the treatment of 7 patients, and all treated patients have decreased cytokines such as IL-6. In combination with other treatment measures, one patient was successfully extubated, and the other 6 patients had an average disease duration of more than 3 weeks, which prolonged the patient's life.

"They did not stop exploring. According to the literature, the cytokine adsorber has a better effect on the adsorption of inflammatory factors.

"Director Li Xuemei of the Department of Nephrology immediately contacted overseas purchases and donations to complete the ethical application. The adsorption columns from the United States and the supporting pipelines from Germany came to the Concord ICU ward.
Since March 3, "new weapons" have been used in clinical treatment, and it is expected to bring more benefits to early stage patients in severe cases.
尝试新技术新项目,给患者生的希望

肾内科团队较早开展血滤吸附和cytosorb吸附治疗炎症风暴。最忙的时候,6台CRRT质量同时24小时进行。截止目前,血滤吸附共参与治疗7例患者,所有经治患者升高的IL-6等细胞因子均下降。在联合其他治疗措施下,其中1例患者成功拔除气管插管,另外6例患者平均病程超过3周,延长了患者的生命。

他们没有停下探索脚步。据文献报道细胞因子吸附器对炎症因子吸附效果更好,肾内科李雪梅主任立即联系海外采购和捐赠,完成伦理申请,来自美国的吸附柱和德国的配套管路突破重重困难来到了协和ICU病房。3月3日起,"新型武器"被应用于临床治疗中,期待为重症中的早期患者带来更多收益。
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Last paragraphs

"Under the guidance of Secretary Zhang Shuyang and Deputy Dean Han Ding, the third group of medical team members quickly integrated into the Concord Army with "addition for treatment" and launched a "total attack" on the treatment of severe new coronary pneumonia. With the continuous deepening of people's understanding of the new coronavirus and the continuous exploration of treatment options, an increasingly mature comprehensive diagnosis and treatment plan for severe and critically ill patients is being formed. When the smoke spreads, the Concorde responds loudly with a determined voice: "I'm here!"

在张抒扬书记、韩丁副院长的指导下,第三批医疗队员秉持着"为救治做加法"飞快融入协和大军,向着重症新冠肺炎救治发起"总攻"。随着人们对新型冠状病毒认识的不断深入,对治疗方案的持续探索,一个越来越成熟的、面向重症和危重症患者的综合诊治方案正在形成。当硝烟弥散时,协和人将以坚毅的声音作出响亮的回答:"我在!"
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 09, 2020, 11:35:37 AM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1237079467794878466
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 09, 2020, 05:19:14 PM
This is bad news no matter what. If a gust of wind comes up, and it can live for 30 minutes?
All I can say, is stay out of crowded areas...

Coronavirus can travel twice as far as official 'safe distance' and stay in air for 30 minutes, Chinese study finds

The coronavirus that causes Covid-19 can linger in the air for at least 30 minutes and travel up to 4.5 metres – further than the "safe distance" advised by health authorities around the world, according to a study by a team of Chinese government epidemiologists.

The researchers also found that it can last for days on a surface where respiratory droplets land, raising the risk of transmission if unsuspecting people touch it and then rub their face.
The length of time it lasts on the surface depends on factors such as temperature and the type of surface, for example at around 37C (98F), it can survive for two to three days on glass, fabric, metal, plastic or paper.

These findings, from a group of official researchers from Hunan province investigating a cluster case, challenge the advice from health authorities around the world that people should remain apart at a "safe distance" of one to two metres (three to six and a half feet).

Their work was based on a local outbreak case on January 22 during the peak Lunar New Year travel season. A passenger, known as "A", boarded a fully booked long-distance coach and settled down on the second row from the back.

The passenger already felt sick at that point but it was before China had declared the coronavirus outbreak a national crisis, so "A" did not wear a mask, nor did most of the other passengers or the driver on the 48-seat bus.

More...

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 09, 2020, 07:00:04 PM
Coronavirus: nearly 200 North Korea soldiers 'die from outbreak government refuses to acknowledge'

Hundreds of North Korean soldiers have reportedly died from the coronavirus – and thousands of others are being quarantined. But the secretive nation's leaders are sticking to the official narrative that the global epidemic has not reached them.
According to Daily NK, a South Korean news organisation, the Covid-19 virus killed 180 North Korean soldiers in January and February and has sent another 3,700 into quarantine. And according to South Korea's government-backed Yonhap News Agency, almost 10,000 people have been quarantined over coronavirus fears, but nearly 4,000 have been released since they did not present symptoms.

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3074377/coronavirus-nearly-200-north-korea-soldiers-die-outbreak
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 09, 2020, 09:34:04 PM
Incoming Trump chief of staff to self-quarantine

Washington (AFP) - Incoming White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has self-quarantined after he may have come into contact with a person who tested positive for the coronavirus, his spokesman said Monday.

Meadows is not exhibiting symptoms and a precautionary test came back negative, the spokesman said on Twitter.

"Mark Meadows was advised this weekend that now 12 days prior at CPAC, he may have come into contact with the COVID-19 positive test individual," the tweet said, referring to a conservative conference in late February.

"He'll be self-quarantined till the 14 day period passes Wednesday."

US President Donald Trump announced Friday he had chosen staunch ally Meadows to be his new chief of staff -- the fourth person to hold the position since he took office.

https://news.yahoo.com/incoming-trump-chief-staff-self-quarantine-032057146.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: murph1953 on March 09, 2020, 10:12:38 PM
Earlier today, Dr. Chan on the Liz Claman show, Fox Business

Coronavirus treatment developer hopes FDA will fast-track the therapy in US
CytoSorbents CEO Dr. Phillip Chan, MD, discusses his company's CytoSorb devices which are currently being used on coronavirus patients in China.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/shows/the-claman-countdown
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 10, 2020, 02:29:22 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 09, 2020, 07:00:04 PM
Coronavirus: nearly 200 North Korea soldiers 'die from outbreak government refuses to acknowledge'

Hundreds of North Korean soldiers have reportedly died from the coronavirus – and thousands of others are being quarantined. But the secretive nation's leaders are sticking to the official narrative that the global epidemic has not reached them.
According to Daily NK, a South Korean news organisation, the Covid-19 virus killed 180 North Korean soldiers in January and February and has sent another 3,700 into quarantine. And according to South Korea's government-backed Yonhap News Agency, almost 10,000 people have been quarantined over coronavirus fears, but nearly 4,000 have been released since they did not present symptoms.

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3074377/coronavirus-nearly-200-north-korea-soldiers-die-outbreak
The soldiers are probably among the healthiest in N.K, I would guess the general population has numbers at least ten times higher.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 10, 2020, 05:03:42 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 10, 2020, 02:29:22 AM
The soldiers are probably among the healthiest in N.K, I would guess the general population has numbers at least ten times higher.
I was thinking the same. Their medical care in 17th century, witch doctors and herbs. Only the wealthy elite, meaning party members get actual medical care.
It must be Hell inside the prison...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 10, 2020, 05:30:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2020, 05:03:42 AM
I was thinking the same. Their medical care in 17th century, witch doctors and herbs. Only the wealthy elite, meaning party members get actual medical care.
It must be Hell inside the prison...
I can not imagine.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 10, 2020, 05:49:08 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 10, 2020, 05:30:51 AM
I can not imagine.
I can, only because my job was to spy on the other side. Honestly, it was like watching a historical documentary in real life, as if you had taken a time machine centuries into the past.
The only machine you saw, was hand made tools and oxen, every now and then a military vehicle from the war would make an appearance, as a reminder this is today.

Even the packs they wore were made of twigs and skins of assorted animals sewn together attached to the backs of people not much over 80 lbs each and hunched over. They were mere shells of humans. Images I'll never forget...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: topside on March 10, 2020, 05:51:23 AM
I was checking today at:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)

What I find interesting, based on the plots, is that the virus is spreading at a linear rate. Viruses naturally spread at an exponential rate - one infects ten infects one-hundred infects ... If you look at the plots on a linear scale, it is increasing on a "line" ... meaning linearly. On a logarithmic scale (button over the plot), the spread flattens out ... so not spreading exponentially (at least yet).

That tells me that it may be there is enough proactive reaction that the natural growth rate is being kept under control. Not sure how long that can keep up ... hopefully long enough for a vaccine to be distributed (~12-18 months).

At the linear growth rate, they are reporting about 100k cases per month (only one months worth of data so far ... so this is a questionable estimate). But if that maintain, we can expect about 1.8 million cases (world-wide) before the virus is distributed. Although, the public / professionals are learning how better to deal with the virus. My best guess is that this will escalate before it improves ... mostly because some will not heed the proactive suggestions. 

Viruses naturally grow as: xt = x0 (1+r)^t where xt is the total infected population, x0 is the population infected at some initial time, r is the rate of growth (depends on the virus), and t is time (^ means t is an exponent). What is alarming is that the growth rate r is large because the virus can infect others for longer times than most and at longer distances.

The cycle breaks down when people stop infecting each other (no, duh). For example, China seems to have experienced unchecked (exponential) virus growth in the beginning, but now people are fearful and staying home ... which can break the cycle if they stay in relative isolation until people recover (immune systems kill the virus) or they die. China is an example of how dire an exponential situation can become, and so rapidly.

The curves suggest that the natural growth is checked - not growing exponentially world-wide. It's yet to be seen if the total infections curve stays linear, escalates, or (God willing) flattens out. But, for now, the growth appears linear ... that's not good for some, but good for most of us. Much, much better than the exponential alternative.


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 10, 2020, 10:26:48 AM
New York Deploys National Guard to Set Up Coronavirus Containment Area

Say What? The "panic that you see is unwarranted," the governor added.     Yet here he is setting up quarantine zones?


New York National Guard troops were deployed Tuesday to assemble a containment area as part of the state's effort to combat the spread of the coronavirus.

The deployment to a New Rochelle command post comes after Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) announced an additional 25 cases of the deadly illness were confirmed overnight. Though Cuomo did not comment on the development in New Rochelle, the Westchester County town where a bulk of the state's 165 cases are located, he did tell CNN that officials are "taking more dramatic actions in that cluster." The "panic that you see is unwarranted," the governor added. "We have dealt with worse viruses."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/10/new-york-deploys-national-guard-to-set-up-coronavirus-containment-area/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 10, 2020, 12:47:56 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2020, 10:26:48 AM
New York Deploys National Guard to Set Up Coronavirus Containment Area

Say What? The "panic that you see is unwarranted," the governor added.     Yet here he is setting up quarantine zones?


New York National Guard troops were deployed Tuesday to assemble a containment area as part of the state's effort to combat the spread of the coronavirus.

The deployment to a New Rochelle command post comes after Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) announced an additional 25 cases of the deadly illness were confirmed overnight. Though Cuomo did not comment on the development in New Rochelle, the Westchester County town where a bulk of the state's 165 cases are located, he did tell CNN that officials are "taking more dramatic actions in that cluster." The "panic that you see is unwarranted," the governor added. "We have dealt with worse viruses."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/10/new-york-deploys-national-guard-to-set-up-coronavirus-containment-area/
Here's NY in a week or two.

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1237445256393654273
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 10, 2020, 03:57:07 PM
Americans are getting ready...

goes well with a MAGA Hat
(https://i.imgur.com/EUhjcszm.jpg)

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 11, 2020, 04:37:37 AM
Nancy's Nephew Didn't stick to Marxist talking points... :thumbsup:


https://twitter.com/GaryCoby/status/1237518463901380608
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 11, 2020, 10:30:52 AM
Officially Now A Pandemic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwJrc3NZxgg
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 11, 2020, 03:55:02 PM
NY gov. Cuomo appeared on Morning Joe and said the Federal Government's response is like the response to Katrina. If I didn't know better I'd think the Dems have colluded with the Chinese Communists to infect a few thousand of their people to create a pandemic and crash the worldwide economy just to take down Trump and go back to business as usual.  Sounds too much like a novel to be true though. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 11, 2020, 07:52:07 PM
Can we be honest here? It's pretty damned obvious this is more than just your run of the mill virus.
Closing venues of all kinds, quarantining people, areas, and now cities? When has this ever happened in the past?

Yeah, I know the claims, the flu is just as deadly, but there's never been this reaction worldwide over the flu.

Fact is, they don't want us to know. What they don't want us to know is rather obvious so as to avoid panic, but it's beginning to appear that may wind up unavoidable.

Stay safe, wash your hands, avoid crowds as best as possible, and use disinfectant wipes on everything that you come in contact with, like groceries and mail/packages.
You can't be too careful with this bug, it is definitely a nasty one.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: 1 CAT FAN on March 11, 2020, 08:31:08 PM
The NCAA made the unprecedented decision Wednesday to hold its men's and women's basketball tournaments without fans because of the ongoing coronavirus crisis.

"While I understand how disappointing this is for all fans of our sports, my decision is based on the current understanding of how COVID-19 is progressing in the United States," NCAA president Mark Emmert said in a statement. "This decision is in the best interest of public health, including that of coaches, administrators, fans and, most importantly, our student-athletes. We recognize the opportunity to compete in an NCAA national championship is an experience of a lifetime for the students and their families. Today, we will move forward and conduct championships consistent with the current information and will continue to monitor and make adjustments as needed."

Emmert told The Associated Press that canceling was considered.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 12, 2020, 04:35:27 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 11, 2020, 07:52:07 PM
Can we be honest here? It's pretty damned obvious this is more than just your run of the mill virus.
Closing venues of all kinds, quarantining people, areas, and now cities? When has this ever happened in the past?

Yeah, I know the claims, the flu is just as deadly, but there's never been this reaction worldwide over the flu.

Fact is, they don't want us to know. What they don't want us to know is rather obvious so as to avoid panic, but it's beginning to appear that may wind up unavoidable.

Stay safe, wash your hands, avoid crowds as best as possible, and use disinfectant wipes on everything that you come in contact with, like groceries and mail/packages.
You can't be too careful with this bug, it is definitely a nasty one.
This might also be how the next wars will be fought. It does not look as if this virus developed naturally. If china developed it and it got away from them, they got a good look at how the world would respond.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 12, 2020, 06:03:00 AM
(https://scontent.fden3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89925834_10218056579347759_8529013693541777408_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=3WL3__77rVEAX_WxrGq&_nc_ht=scontent.fden3-1.fna&oh=660a5ca0d5244a0f15bc79ac7c416404&oe=5E8F76D7)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 12, 2020, 06:18:05 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 12, 2020, 04:35:27 AM
This might also be how the next wars will be fought. It does not look as if this virus developed naturally. If china developed it and it got away from them, they got a good look at how the world would respond.
Good point.
I was looking at China as a whole and how Trump literally just eviscerated their economy, Hong Kong defiant, Taiwan backed by the US, and China unable to feed their burgeoning army, too may people reaching retirement age and no way to support them.
CCP was backed into a corner and felt they had no other recourse than to remove the weak and elderly. These are commie scum after all, where people are pawns to used in their quest for even more power.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if China had been working on this to control their own population. With an economy finally placed in Check and a growing population, there was no way they could afford what was about to strike.
Though I do believe it's release was premature. Because the CCP is all about profit and control, but without a vaccine in place, they lose out on profit to the world when a vaccine is finally developed.

China hates what Trump did to them, (Think Reagan and the USSR) Trump had literally won the Cold war without firing a shot, but China had been working on a dooms day device set for a retaliatory strike that they could turn off whenever the desired results had been achieved, but it went off too soon without a defense to it, and now China can't stop it.

I've been following this since the first week the outbreak occurred in Wuhan and I think many in the party were as shocked as everyone else, they simply had no idea the party had this secret they were hiding, which explains how a small faction tried to suppress the truth.
It took at least a week before the truth began to work its way out, and another week to figure out what to do about it, but it was already too late.
Yeah, I've been piecing this puzzle together for quite sometime now, though I may be wrong on the timeline, there is no doubt in my mind for the reasons behind this virus.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 12, 2020, 06:29:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 12, 2020, 06:18:05 AM
Good point.
I was looking at China as a whole and how Trump literally just eviscerated their economy, Hong Kong defiant, Taiwan backed by the US, and China unable to feed their burgeoning army, too may people reaching retirement age and no way to support them.
CCP was backed into a corner and felt they had no other recourse than to remove the weak and elderly. These are commie scum after all, where people are pawns to used in their quest for even more power.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if China had been working on this to control their own population. With an economy finally placed in Check and a growing population, there was no way they could afford what was about to strike.
Though I do believe it's release was premature. Because the CCP is all about profit and control, but without a vaccine in place, they lose out on profit to the world when a vaccine is finally developed.

China hates what Trump did to them, (Think Reagan and the USSR) Trump had literally won the Cold war without firing a shot, but China had been working on a dooms day device set for a retaliatory strike that they could turn off whenever the desired results had been achieved, but it went off too soon without a defense to it, and now China can't stop it.

I've been following this since the first week the outbreak occurred in Wuhan and I think many in the party were as shocked as everyone else, they simply had no idea the party had this secret they were hiding, which explains how a small faction tried to suppress the truth.
It took at least a week before the truth began to work its way out, and another week to figure out what to do about it, but it was already too late.
Yeah, I've been piecing this puzzle together for quite sometime now, though I may be wrong on the timeline, there is no doubt in my mind for the reasons behind this virus.
The places that have very little of the virus, Mongolia, Hong Kong, Russia,ect  all closed their borders back in January. Wow, looks like if you can control who comes into your country, you can control what diseases come into your country. Wonder if any dems are listening. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 12, 2020, 07:05:25 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 12, 2020, 06:29:49 AM
The places that have very little of the virus, Mongolia, Hong Kong, Russia,ect  all closed their borders back in January. Wow, looks like if you can control who comes into your country, you can control what diseases come into your country. Wonder if any dems are listening.
Trump knows the truth and that's why we're not having the issues the rest of the world is suffering. Sadly, the Dims are hoping for American deaths so they can blame Trump, but if you look at their track record for success, I think they're in for a huge letdown. :lol:

How sad it that, a party that's supposed to love the country, would wish for the deaths of Americans? Trump killed China, he can definitely end the Communist DNC. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 12, 2020, 07:55:54 AM
I'd hate to be someone who would be accused of spreading conspiracy theories...But...isn't it coincidental that when the attempt to impeach Trump failed that something just came out of China that is collapsing the world economy and along with it President Trump's strongest case for reelection, which is the great economy he has created.  It's no secret that China wants Trump gone so they can return to business as usual.

(https://i.imgur.com/iLAs6o0l.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on March 12, 2020, 08:10:21 AM
So...are we panicking about this yet or nah?

The markets have tanked. My favorite league canceled their season.

Every event in town is canceled.

:unsure:

I dunno...things seem serious now. Every night I watch the news and there's another 100+ deaths in Italy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 12, 2020, 09:18:24 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on March 12, 2020, 08:10:21 AM
So...are we panicking about this yet or nah?

The markets have tanked. My favorite league canceled their season.

Every event in town is canceled.

:unsure:

I dunno...things seem serious now. Every night I watch the news and there's another 100+ deaths in Italy
I don't think the majority of Americans are in a panic over it, while some are glued to the TV and panic buying, the rest take it for what it is and prepare and stay home.
I'm in the latter category where I know the threat is very real, but also know it's my responsibility to be vigilant. The govt can only do so much.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: 1 CAT FAN on March 12, 2020, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: 1 CAT FAN on March 11, 2020, 08:31:08 PM
The NCAA made the unprecedented decision Wednesday to hold its men's and women's basketball tournaments without fans because of the ongoing coronavirus crisis.

"While I understand how disappointing this is for all fans of our sports, my decision is based on the current understanding of how COVID-19 is progressing in the United States," NCAA president Mark Emmert said in a statement. "This decision is in the best interest of public health, including that of coaches, administrators, fans and, most importantly, our student-athletes. We recognize the opportunity to compete in an NCAA national championship is an experience of a lifetime for the students and their families. Today, we will move forward and conduct championships consistent with the current information and will continue to monitor and make adjustments as needed."

Emmert told The Associated Press that canceling was considered.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans)

ACC cancels the rest of basketball tournament. Awards Florida State as tournament champions.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 12, 2020, 09:50:40 AM
Trump Could Have the Virus.

Brazilian Official Pictured With President Trump Tests Positive For Coronavirus

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1238144001485819904
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 12, 2020, 03:10:25 PM
Sacramento County announces ending all 14-day quarantines and releasing high-risk people into the general public

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-03-12-theyre-trying-to-spread-it-sacramento-county-announces-ending-coronavirus-quarantines.html

hy in the world would they be doing this?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 12, 2020, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: wally on March 12, 2020, 03:10:25 PM
Sacramento County announces ending all 14-day quarantines and releasing high-risk people into the general public

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-03-12-theyre-trying-to-spread-it-sacramento-county-announces-ending-coronavirus-quarantines.html

hy in the world would they be doing this?
They're liberals, they want to hurt Trump as much as possible.
Seriously, that's the only thing I can think of. This is my hometown, the left destroyed it!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 12, 2020, 06:01:15 PM
My own shanty Irish opinion of course but my take on this is it is politically motivated PANIC, restrict people from China, Italy or wherever there seems to be a majority of cases, canceling St Patricks day parades and gatherings over 250 like the leftist idiots in maryland are trying to due is just complete nonsense.
Title: US summons Chinese ambassador over Covid claims
Post by: Solar on March 13, 2020, 01:57:55 PM

The United States on Friday summoned China's ambassador after a senior official in Beijing tweeted the "ridiculous" suggestion that the US military started the Covid-19 pandemic, the US State Department said.

David Stilwell, the top US diplomat for Asia, gave a "stern representation" to Ambassador Cui Tiankai a day after foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian tweeted the conspiracy theory.

"China is seeking to deflect criticism for its role in starting a global pandemic and not telling the world," a State Department official said.

"Spreading conspiracy theories is dangerous and ridiculous. We wanted to put the government on notice we won't tolerate it, for the good of the Chinese people and the world," the official said.

Zhao, in tweets both Putonghua and English that gained wide traction on Chinese social media, a day earlier suggested that "patient zero" in the global pandemic may have come from the United States – not Wuhan, where cases were first reported late last year.

"It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make public your data! US owe us an explanation," tweeted Zhao, who is known for his provocative statements on social media.

Scientists widely believe that the pandemic started in a market in Wuhan that sold exotic animals for consumption.

Cui, in contrast to Zhao, is known for his diplomatic approach and has publicly called for US-Chinese cooperation against the pandemic. (AFP)

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1514382-20200314.htm
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: 1 CAT FAN on March 13, 2020, 03:11:08 PM
This thing is beginning to become similar to one of those Hollywood movies.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on March 14, 2020, 02:49:33 AM
The struggle is real and has entered into Rod Serling territory.

https://twitter.com/Wienermobile/status/1238232995624030215?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1238232995624030215&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wivb.com%2Fnews%2Fnational%2Fcoronavirus-causes-wienermobile-to-cancel-scheduled-events-for-the-near-future%2F



Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on March 14, 2020, 04:37:50 AM
The lesson here is the republican party today is a danger both to democracy and to the people. The effort starting largely by Reagan to destroy government shows today. South Korea is ahead of us in virus testing as is China. Thoughtful conservatives learn this lesson and vote for progress next time.  Trump answers tough questions from reporters like a school yard bully. Shooting the messenger is the response of the guilty. Time to bring back government of the people not special interests.

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."  Thomas Jefferson

'Did Trump Administration Fire the US Pandemic Response Team?' As a new coronavirus spread in 2020, so did concerns about the United States' preparedness for a potential pandemic.'https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

"Every Wednesday morning, a group of conspirators meets to plot out how to most effectively attack the federal government. This is not a group of rag-tag terrorists – they wear $2,000 suits and occupy powerful positions in society. But their ideas are politically radical and they do pose a real threat to the normal workings of government in the U.S. They are a group of leading conservatives who believe that government is a malevolent force in society and they have a fierce determination to drastically cut it back. They are convinced that the central problem in our country is too much government – too many social programs, too many regulations, and too much taxation – and they are committed to doing something about it." 

http://www.governmentisgood.com/articles.php?aid=9

"For decades conservatives have been demonizing government and not enough has been done to defend it.  Ever since Ronald Reagan declared in 1981 that "Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem," Republicans have been waging a political war against this institution. They have been joined in this anti-government crusade by libertarian thinkers, Tea Party activists, right-wing media pundits, and wealthy corporate lobbies.  This powerful political coalition blithely ignores anything good about government and conducts a relentless smear campaign against this institution.  They constantly play upon the fears and insecurities of average Americans and encourage them to blame all their problems on big bad government."   http://www.governmentisgood.com/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 14, 2020, 07:30:22 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on March 14, 2020, 04:37:50 AM
The lesson here is the republican party today is a danger both to democracy and to the people. The effort starting largely by Reagan to destroy government shows today. South Korea is ahead of us in virus testing as is China. Thoughtful conservatives learn this lesson and vote for progress next time.  Trump answers tough questions from reporters like a school yard bully. Shooting the messenger is the response of the guilty. Time to bring back government of the people not special interests.

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government."  Thomas Jefferson

'Did Trump Administration Fire the US Pandemic Response Team?' As a new coronavirus spread in 2020, so did concerns about the United States' preparedness for a potential pandemic.'https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

"Every Wednesday morning, a group of conspirators meets to plot out how to most effectively attack the federal government. This is not a group of rag-tag terrorists – they wear $2,000 suits and occupy powerful positions in society. But their ideas are politically radical and they do pose a real threat to the normal workings of government in the U.S. They are a group of leading conservatives who believe that government is a malevolent force in society and they have a fierce determination to drastically cut it back. They are convinced that the central problem in our country is too much government – too many social programs, too many regulations, and too much taxation – and they are committed to doing something about it." 

http://www.governmentisgood.com/articles.php?aid=9

"For decades conservatives have been demonizing government and not enough has been done to defend it.  Ever since Ronald Reagan declared in 1981 that "Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem," Republicans have been waging a political war against this institution. They have been joined in this anti-government crusade by libertarian thinkers, Tea Party activists, right-wing media pundits, and wealthy corporate lobbies.  This powerful political coalition blithely ignores anything good about government and conducts a relentless smear campaign against this institution.  They constantly play upon the fears and insecurities of average Americans and encourage them to blame all their problems on big bad government."   http://www.governmentisgood.com/
A couple of things here. One, were not a fuckin Democracy, and Two, Reagan had a good start in gutting an over bloated govt.
Yes, big govt is evil, it creates absolute nothing but red tape and bureaucracy, it's sole goal is self preservation and to do that it needs to write rules for its very existence.
The few simple rules the fed was charged with, but you idiot libs tried to handicap, yes, protecting our borders, that was the main purpose of a Federal Govt, to protect the states!!!

But idiots like you have grown govt well beyond its simple purview and started to see it as some all might God designed to slap States Rights into submission and protect people, cradle to grave.

Let me be the first to enlighten you.
We're in the process of gutting the Fed and taking it back to what our Founders had intended.
If you didn't buy insurance for yourself, then too God damn bad, it is not govts responsibility to coddle your worthless ass, that is your responsibility!!!

You have a truly warped view of what our govt is supposed to do, I suggest you read the Constitution now and again. No where does it say other people should pay for your worthless ass if you get sick, that has always been your responsibility!!!!!
Title: Obama waited until millions of Americans were infected with swine flu, 1000 died
Post by: wally on March 14, 2020, 11:01:21 AM
Democrats and their left-wing media minions have wasted no time politicizing the coronavirus outbreak to attack President Trump. Unfortunately for them, the facts smack them in the face.

This week, the New York Times called the coronavirus the "Trumpvirus,"  and the rest of the Left gleefully cheered for a stock market crash in the hopes that it'll hurt Trump's chances for reelection.

Notably, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senator Chuck Schumer, and Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden and Mike Bloomberg accused President Trump of waiting too long to counteract the spread of the coronavirus.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/01/obama-waited-until-millions-of-americans-were-infected-with-swine-flu-1000-died-before-acting-892677?fbclid=IwAR36imjVxBYrZPxhlOfucD-TfiM1SthX81qIlyN8zJBXNr149F8Xm1FAR5s

While the outbreak of the covid-19 virus itself is not a hoax, the media and the rest of the Democrats an NeverTrumpers have created a hoax by treating this SARS 2 virus as if it were the end of the world.  They have crashed the market and are doing a great job of instilling a panic and destroying the great economy that President Trump created.

The "Hoax" is the way they have hyped this as opposed to the way the media acted to calm fears during past pandemics such as SARS, Ebola and Swine Flue.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 14, 2020, 01:00:22 PM
I found this interesting and quite true.  Toy

Uncontrolled borders have consequences...

I wrote more than a year ago pointing out that in most western nations we have tough restrictions moving livestock across our international border and for good reason. As a practicing large animal veterinarian of more than two decades, I've completed thousands of health certificates for the international shipment of livestock.

We are a nation of free trade, free markets, free travel, and we are welcoming people. Those elements are essential to our country - but we need to prudently review our border control policy as a component of our overall public health.

As the impact of Coronavirus (COVID-19) grows, we see that among the deadliest hot spots is northern Italy. As someone who understands "herd health" in the animal world - many of the same principles apply when looking at human populations. Italy has "allowed" an uncontrolled influx of illegal cheaper workers, some of whom originated from China. They are now working to remedy that but they are already at crisis.

Contrast that with our neighbors to the south Mexico who have almost no reported cases of Coronavirus. They are staying ahead of the crisis and seriously considering restricting border access to their nation to protect their people and healthcare systems.

The fact is, not only is a controlled international border/ports of entry important to protecting workers from exploitation, preventing human trafficking, and stemming the flow of illegal drugs, but it's an important component to our overall public health policy because it is often the front line of defense against microscopic invaders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 14, 2020, 01:52:37 PM
To keep this in the vivid thread - Wally, the Harvard prof was getting paid buy wuhan university in China. The official reports are its just a coincidence, that he is not suspected of any ties to the virus.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Norseman on March 14, 2020, 02:34:49 PM
People are going to look back at this and be embarrassed.

Lets close down our Schools

Lets shutdown all our sporting events

And make sure it gets blamed on Trump

I went to the Store last night and saw people! The bars had cars parked outside of them

And Walmart was open

This whole thing is blown way out of proportion. It shows that the Left wing propaganda machine still works
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 15, 2020, 04:00:48 AM
Straight-talking Fauci explains outbreak to a worried nation.

https://apnews.com/e9d289a802222800a6eeb56e6be28333
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 15, 2020, 08:39:22 AM
Well this is interesting... Wonder if this was real.  Toy

(https://scontent.fden3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89919421_2749217421800652_445559615229263872_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=iEU_z3NoZDwAX9uf5jG&_nc_ht=scontent.fden3-1.fna&oh=45066befdb83a301b1de375a5402e73e&oe=5E92ECEE)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 15, 2020, 08:49:42 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on March 15, 2020, 08:39:22 AM
Well this is interesting... Wonder if this was real.  Toy

(https://scontent.fden3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89919421_2749217421800652_445559615229263872_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=iEU_z3NoZDwAX9uf5jG&_nc_ht=scontent.fden3-1.fna&oh=45066befdb83a301b1de375a5402e73e&oe=5E92ECEE)
Gee, could it be Trump saw a flaw in preparedness? Nah, can't be, the left would never stand for real leadership that might expose Obozo for the failure he is.
Or, as you allude to, did our spies know something was in the works? Either way, it would appear that Trump was way ahead of the curve.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 15, 2020, 09:13:39 AM
Here's the point I was making earlier about global media. It isn't just leftist media, every news source out there is hyper focused on COVID.'
This is Reuters, but they're all the same and this is in less than an hour.


The Wire
Real-time Reuters coverage of the world's financial markets, political capitals and conflict zones.


World News
22 MINUTES AGO

Britain set to isolate people over 70 as it steps up coronavirus plan
FILE PHOTO: Pedestrians cross the road as a woman wears a protective mask, as the number of coronavirus cases grow around the world, in London, Britain March 13, 2020. REUTERS/Dylan Martinez
Britain will isolate older people "within weeks" and force into quarantine anyone diagnosed with coronavirus, the government said as it stepped up measures that have so far been less stringent than elsewhere in Europe.

Politics
29 MINUTES AGO

U.S. eyes aid for airlines; sees no domestic travel curbs for now
FILE PHOTO: An empty International Terminal of San Francisco International Airport is pictured after the U.S. air travel ban, in San Francisco, California, U.S. March 13, 2020.REUTERS/Kate Munsch/File Photo
U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Sunday said he was in close touch with Congress about helping U.S. airlines weather a massive downturn in business due to sweeping travel restrictions aimed at containing the coronavirus.

World News
33 MINUTES AGO

Two Goldman Sachs employees test positive for coronavirus
Goldman Sachs Group Inc said on Sunday two of its employees were diagnosed with coronavirus.

Business News
35 MINUTES AGO

Egypt's central bank ready to intervene if necessary
Egypt's central bank said on Sunday it was ready to intervene immediately to maintain banking and monetary stability if necessary, after the government announced steps to contain the coronavirus outbreak.

World News
39 MINUTES AGO

Bulgaria to pay medics on coronavirus frontline extra
FILE PHOTO: Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borissov leaves the second day of the European Union leaders summit, held to discuss the EU's long-term budget for 2021-2027, in Brussels, Belgium, February 21, 2020. REUTERS/Francois Lenoir
Bulgaria will raise the salaries of all medics involved in treating coronavirus patients by 1000 levs ($566) per month as it steps up measures to contain the fast-spreading infection, Prime Minister Boyko Borissov said on Sunday.

World News
40 MINUTES AGO

Bulgaria to ban incoming flights from Italy, Spain
Bulgaria will ban incoming flights from Italy and Spain as of midnight (2200 GMT) on March 17 as part of measures to contain the spread of coronavirus, its transport minister said.

World News
40 MINUTES AGO

Austria announces major restrictions on movement over coronavirus
FILE PHOTO: The vegetable storage is seen near empty amid coronavirus fears spreading in Vienna, Austria March 14, 2020. REUTERS/Lisi Niesner
Austria's chancellor announced major restrictions on movement in public places on Sunday, banning gatherings of more than five persons and urging Austrians to self-isolate, as well as putting further limits on who can enter the country.

World News
40 MINUTES AGO

Two medics at Austrian hospital test positive for coronavirus
Two medical workers have tested positive for coronavirus in Austria's university hospital Uniklinum Salzburg, the regional authorities reported on Sunday.

World News
41 MINUTES AGO

Philippines' coronavirus death toll rises to 12, cases spike to 140
The Philippines recorded four additional coronavirus deaths and 29 new cases, bringing the domestic tally of infections to 140, as authorities placed the entire capital Manila under "community quarantine" for about a month beginning

https://www.reuters.com/theWire
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 15, 2020, 02:36:28 PM
https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1238994948558663680
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 15, 2020, 03:11:21 PM
Toy sent me this. It reflects perfectly why we insist people back up their BS. Feeding the lie....

Something fascinating about the human mind... If you hear the same thing from 3 different people and or sources, it starts to become fact in that person's mind.

Even if the three people all heard it from the same single source (that started it)... And that source was lying or giving false information... Now that original person believes it to be real, because no way three other people would be wrong or lying to them.

Now, that original person is going to go around and tell everyone from they heard from the three people like it's a fact. Now everybody who hears it, will feel like it's fact, because this person is very confident in what they're saying (remember, no way would 3 people be wrong or all lying to them)... Now those people tell other people and so forth and so on... Now thousands believe something as fact because they heard it from all these other people...

Now, by the time it gets out this far, it has trickled down to the people who don't actually research, but believe everything they hear as fact and spread it as such.

In the end, it all came from one single source and that original source was lying or purposely feeding misinformation.

Be careful out there and don't believe anything you hear unless you track down the source or research it for yourself.

This is exactly how the media operates (and quite frankly, I see it a lot in the truther community as more and more people get involved).

We must be careful.

Nick Reeder
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: topside on March 15, 2020, 04:53:37 PM
So this is an embarrassing question. But during this Covid-19 outbreak, there has been a problem with people hoarding toilet paper. What's the deal with toilet paper hoarding?

I hear that in some middle east countries they just use their left hand to clear things up afterward; never shake the left hand of someone from Bangladesh. The Sears catalog used to be a favorite in Out Houses. I think we finally found something that the NY Times can be useful for. Leaves also work, or pages from those old books you've been stock-piling for no good reason can be put to hygienic use - Gone With the Wind can get you through a month easy. A towel and bucket of water works too - just rinse the towel after every dump. It's not ideal, but certainly not panic worthy.

Why are people panicked over toilet paper?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 15, 2020, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: topside on March 15, 2020, 04:53:37 PM
So this is an embarrassing question. But during this Covid-19 outbreak, there has been a problem with people hoarding toilet paper. What's the deal with toilet paper hoarding?

I hear that in some middle east countries they just use their left hand to clear things up afterward; never shake the left hand of someone from Bangladesh. The Sears catalog used to be a favorite in Out Houses. I think we finally found something that the NY Times can be useful for. Leaves also work, or pages from those old books you've been stock-piling for no good reason can be put to hygienic use - Gone With the Wind can get you through a month easy. A towel and bucket of water works too - just rinse the towel after every dump. It's not ideal, but certainly not panic worthy.

Why are people panicked over toilet paper?

/quote]

People are panicing because they listen to and believe the media....I don't get the toilet paper thing, going to the grocery for routine shopping mrs Billy said the placed was packed and people were buying out the shelves. She just shook her head.

People in differet countries dont really use paper, especially Japan where they consider the practise unclean & Unsanitary, they use water ad most public places have ad electroic toilet that sprays your butt with water and air dries it and adds a dash of cologne all from a butto control panel on the side.

Lots of Asian countries use just water some a sponge. Of course the Middle east uses "Dung hand food hand"....plus....Sand
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on March 16, 2020, 03:54:46 AM
This is and excellent analysis of covid-19. Check it out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqw-9yMV0sI
Title: Please Don't Panic - Good Read
Post by: Josey on March 16, 2020, 05:17:15 AM
Borrowed and these numbers are easily verifiable.
I have flipped out a few libs with this so far.



PLEASE DON'T PANIC ABOUT CORONA VIRUS. IT HAS BEEN CIRCULATING IN THE US SINCE NOVEMBER ... with no statistically noticeable effects on the country. For 2 months before the Trump travel ban, while the Chinese hid it, 1 million Chinese flew directly to the United States from China in December and February at a rate of 15,000-22,000 a day, including from infected areas. That doesn't even count those who flew in November. And ... no overwhelmed hospital system. No overall spike in death rates. Our virologists didn't even notice it. In fact, no one noticed any difference until the Chinese told worldwide media about it (or cued them to freak out about it.) So it has been with us since at least mid-November.
Meaning there's a huge central flaw in the media narrative because it essentially, at least psychologically, dates the beginning of Corona virus to the Chinese announcement in January and assumes an outward deadly spread from there. It's coming here OMG what do we do how many deaths will we see???
No, Corona virus has already been here and yes, our docs and scientists would have noticed a spike in deaths due to a mystery illness if it were going to be an unusually large mass fatality event. They didn't because there wasn't a statistically significant spike in deaths or routine illness this fall. Many of you have asked, well why is Italy so overrun? Italy is a 1st world country with a 3rd world health system. And it has tested more widely than we have. But let's look at the numbers. About 1,450 people there have died of Corona. They have a population of 60m. So that would translate to about 7,900 deaths in a country our size over the same period ... less than the flu has killed here in the US in the last 3 weeks ... and no where near the 500,000 to 1.5 million US deaths in the US the media was hysterically projecting this week. That's why Corona virus has escaped notice. Corona on top of the flu just looks like a more severe flu season than the year before, not a notable, widespread death event.
Now let's look at South Korea, a better health system and a better comparison. They are a country of 51 million people. They've had just 75 deaths and daily recoveries now exceed deaths, so they are at the tail end of Corona, as the US likely is. That death per population rate would produce 487 deaths here over the same period, given US population levels. Now do you see why no one noticed Corona was spreading here until the Chinese told us?
That said, if you are in a high-risk category, you should take the same precautions you would because we are in flu season. Both can kill. But otherwise, go about your life as you would. Yesterday, we went shopping, to church and to lunch. If you are healthy, you can feel comfortable doing the same.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on March 16, 2020, 05:28:56 AM
Just a thought. Notice how we have not heard a peep from Russia about impact of the virus there. I would not be surprised if it is really bad there.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 06:41:19 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 16, 2020, 05:28:56 AM
Just a thought. Notice how we have not heard a peep from Russia about impact of the virus there. I would not be surprised if it is really bad there.
They locked down their borders immediately, so as to avoid this.
Did it work? I have no idea. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 16, 2020, 06:49:34 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 16, 2020, 06:41:19 AM
They locked down their borders immediately, so as to avoid this.
Did it work? I have no idea. :biggrin:

Could be wrong, my understanding they locked down Friday Night.  But then they do control all the news.  Time will tell as they can not keep it under raps for ever.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 07:00:57 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 16, 2020, 06:49:34 AM
Could be wrong, my understanding they locked down Friday Night.  But then they do control all the news.  Time will tell as they can not keep it under raps for ever.
Putin has been closing it off to several countries for awhile, Iran almost two weeks ago, but finally sealed it just recently.
Russia had some cases but claimed they were all cured. I'm guessing he's not releasing the truth to avoid panic buying like the morons did here.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 16, 2020, 07:17:13 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 16, 2020, 07:00:57 AM
Putin has been closing it off to several countries for awhile, Iran almost two weeks ago, but finally sealed it just recently.
Russia had some cases but claimed they were all cured. I'm guessing he's not releasing the truth to avoid panic buying like the morons did here.

My understanding they don't have that much for panic buying.  Unless it is the Black-market.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 08:12:15 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 16, 2020, 07:17:13 AM
My understanding they don't have that much for panic buying.  Unless it is the Black-market.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Probably because they're used to it.

(https://geardiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Russian-Bread-Line-2.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 16, 2020, 09:02:14 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 16, 2020, 08:12:15 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Probably because they're used to it.

(https://geardiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Russian-Bread-Line-2.jpg)

Yep!!!

I do think someone need to clean up after that horse.  :ohmy:
Title: Trump just lost me
Post by: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 12:38:33 PM
No group more than 10 people?? Good  God, he  is the  chief  panickmonger. Then he  goes  on to say well maybe by july  or  august  we can get  back to normal. Does the  stupid fool understand  how  many businesses are going to go under? restaurants and  bars  closed for  months? Unemployment  is  going to skyrocket. He  inspired nothing  but  fear today. He  just  sunk the economy. Malls will close, just about  everything  will close. And no, you are doing  a  horrible  job.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 12:40:08 PM
Groups  of  no more than 10 F'ing  people??? No one  has  any idea  how  mad  i am at this fool.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: supsalemgr on March 16, 2020, 12:44:38 PM
My view is he has assembled a very able group of folks for the Task Force. They have been very forthcoming and building much credibility. He might be better served letting Pence and the Task Force handle questions. The media will just pick apart every word he utters.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 12:48:39 PM
But  he said  it and while  i just  saw Fauchi tried to say it was  just  for  15 days the  headline was till July  or  August. His somber tone  is  idiotic. As  i posted before why in the damn hell isnt  he  bring  recovered people to his  fearmongering  conferences?
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 12:55:10 PM
I can not  even believe what  he said. You know he signed  his  political death warrant by how respectful the  media  is today. No small business person will vote for  him again. Market  is cratering after his  disastrous stupid statement.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 12:55:10 PM
I can not  even believe what  he said. You know he signed  his  political death warrant by how respectful the  media  is today. No small business person will vote for  him again. Market  is cratering after his  disastrous stupid statement.
So we're supposed to read your mind as to what he said that got your panties in a knot?
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 01:01:41 PM
You know what  he said. No group of  more than 10 people and basically all you small business people can go to damn hell as well as your employees. July or  August? Any idiot  knows  it going to begin ending now.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
Market down 3000 points because  of  him. Somebody  better tell the fool to say its 15DAMN DAYS but  is  just  droning  on and  on and  on. And why in the hell is  he putting all the  hardship on people  who can least afford  it?
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 01:01:41 PM
You know what  he said. No group of  more than 10 people and basically all you small business people can go to damn hell as well as your employees. July or  August? Any idiot  knows  it going to begin ending now.
No, I have no idea what you're talking about and I highly doubt you do either!
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 01:26:46 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 16, 2020, 01:11:27 PM
No, I have no idea what you're talking about and I highly doubt you do either!

He also just contradicted the  OK GOV and Devin Nunes when they were encouraging  people to go to restaurants so the  small businessman wouldnt  get  hurt. I guess the  only  good  thing  is 6 more days  of this and there wont  be a stock market.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 02:01:06 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 01:26:46 PM
He also just contradicted the  OK GOV and Devin Nunes when they were encouraging  people to go to restaurants so the  small businessman wouldnt  get  hurt. I guess the  only  good  thing  is 6 more days  of this and there wont  be a stock market.
Gee, and just a couple of weeks ago you said this was nothing it was just a flu.

Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:18:19 AM
If this  is  called a  pandemic, then flu should  be a 24/7 never ending  pandemic. I am 100% certain  in a few  months i will pull this thread  back up and say i was  100% right. One other thing, like the regular  flu the  people who are by  far the  most  at risk are  those  over  65.
So what happened genius? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Killer Clouds on March 16, 2020, 02:13:05 PM
Idub23 sounds like a typical snowflake screaming at the sky. You can't lose something you've never had. He's been against Trump before this. 
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on March 16, 2020, 02:13:05 PM
Idub23 sounds like a typical snowflake screaming at the sky. You can't lose something you've never had. He's been against Trump before this.
Yep, he's always been a lib troll. Funny, he thought he had it concealed all these years. :lol:
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Mimsy on March 16, 2020, 03:00:24 PM
The fact is China knew about the Wuhan virus since November and did nothing until it was too late. America's response has been appropriate even if Trump "misspeaks. Our experts are dealing with this along side the rest of the worlds experts. Trump's call to caution should not be spun for ratings.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: Mimsy on March 16, 2020, 03:00:24 PM
The fact is China knew about the Wuhan virus since November and did nothing until it was too late. America's response has been appropriate even if Trump "misspeaks. Our experts are dealing with this along side the rest of the worlds experts. Trump's call to caution should not be spun for ratings.
Actually it broke out in Wuhan in December 2019, but otherwise I agree.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 03:08:50 PM
Hey Walks, move this shit to the Covid thread. Apparently Ldub is too stupid to remember why he was put in timeout the first time when he started derailing threads.
Now he starts them where he knows they don't belong.
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Sauce on March 16, 2020, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 01:03:07 PM
Market down 3000 points because  of  him. Somebody  better tell the fool to say its 15DAMN DAYS but  is  just  droning  on and  on and  on. And why in the hell is  he putting all the  hardship on people  who can least afford  it?


Even the Libtard press isn't reporting it the way you perceived it.  Take a step back from the ledge....


.....before one of pushes you off
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Mimsy on March 16, 2020, 04:10:18 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 16, 2020, 03:06:43 PM
Actually it broke out in Wuhan in December 2019, but otherwise I agree.

Thanks for the correction. :smile:
Title: Re: Trump just lost me
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: Mimsy on March 16, 2020, 04:10:18 PM
Thanks for the correction. :smile:
No prob, just keeping the record straight. :smile:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 16, 2020, 05:17:43 PM
After all of this is said and done, I don't think any country will look at open borders the same way again.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 05:22:52 PM
US #CoronaVirusDeathRate by date:

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)

3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)

2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)

2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)

2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)

1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)

1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 16, 2020, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 05:22:52 PM
US #CoronaVirusDeathRate by date:

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)

3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)

2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)

2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)

2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)

1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)

1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)


I think your chances of getting hit by lightening are much higher.....68 deaths out of a 300 million population.....Hell if studs terkel were still alive he'd never back that bet.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 07:07:41 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 16, 2020, 05:17:43 PM
After all of this is said and done, I don't think any country will look at open borders the same way again.
Yep, kinda throws a wet blanket of libs and their hatred for the Wall, doesn't it? :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 07:09:30 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 16, 2020, 05:22:52 PM
US #CoronaVirusDeathRate by date:

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)

3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)

2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)

2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)

2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)

1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)

1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)
So are you avoiding Reply #271, where you claimed this was no worse than the flu, but now that you think you have a cudgel to use against Trump, you suddenly shift gears and become a hypocrite? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 16, 2020, 07:27:13 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 08:18:19 AM
If this  is  called a  pandemic, then flu should  be a 24/7 never ending  pandemic. I am 100% certain  in a few  months i will pull this thread  back up and say i was  100% right. One other thing, like the regular  flu the  people who are by  far the  most  at risk are  those  over  65.
First it was just a flu... Now it's Trump's fault, the end is nigh...:


https://twitter.com/AaronIson5/status/1239708975660060672           (https://i.imgflip.com/1kbhcs.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rotwang on March 17, 2020, 03:01:18 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 16, 2020, 07:27:13 PM
First it was just a flu... Now it's Trump's fault, the end is nigh...:


https://twitter.com/AaronIson5/status/1239708975660060672           (https://i.imgflip.com/1kbhcs.jpg)

The flush lever on my Toilet is acting up.

&^#@(*&  TRUMP is responsible !
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 05:51:31 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 16, 2020, 07:09:30 PM
So are you avoiding Reply #271, where you claimed this was no worse than the flu, but now that you think you have a cudgel to use against Trump, you suddenly shift gears and become a hypocrite? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No it  isnt any worse than the  flu. My problem with Trump is  his  dumbassery corona  updates. He  came  on yesterday  and said the  idiotic  10 person thing, then recommended people  punish bars and restaurants all for  nothing  in my opinion. And yea, i heard Fauchi try  to correct  him when he  ran up and grabbed the  mike  and said  it  was  just  for  15 days after a reporter  asked  trump how  long  it  would  last  and  he  said  maybe till july  or  august. Trump also made a  mess  of things  by  saying  he  may have to force a  national lockdown, curfew and  quarantiine. The  market tanked.

What Trump should  be  doing  in his  conferences  is start  by listing  point  by point  all the good  news. He  should  also have said that  no way  in hell is  he  going to lock the  country  down. He  needs to be an optimistic  leader, not  a  fearmonger.
I bet  Rush's  head exploded  when he  heard  it. You could  tell he was exasperated with Trump on Friday. Finally, he  needs to bring people  who have recovered to every  update and  let them talk.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 17, 2020, 09:47:58 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 05:51:31 AM
No it  isnt any worse than the  flu. My problem with Trump is  his  dumbassery corona  updates. He  came  on yesterday  and said the  idiotic  10 person thing, then recommended people  punish bars and restaurants all for  nothing  in my opinion. And yea, i heard Fauchi try  to correct  him when he  ran up and grabbed the  mike  and said  it  was  just  for  15 days after a reporter  asked  trump how  long  it  would  last  and  he  said  maybe till july  or  august. Trump also made a  mess  of things  by  saying  he  may have to force a  national lockdown, curfew and  quarantiine. The  market tanked.

What Trump should  be  doing  in his  conferences  is start  by listing  point  by point  all the good  news. He  should  also have said that  no way  in hell is  he  going to lock the  country  down. He  needs to be an optimistic  leader, not  a  fearmonger.
I bet  Rush's  head exploded  when he  heard  it. You could  tell he was exasperated with Trump on Friday. Finally, he  needs to bring people  who have recovered to every  update and  let them talk.
Man, you are such a gullible foo! This is why I said you need to turn off the damn TV! And don't lie, CNN is one of the LSM networks spreading unfounded rumors
Here's the truth!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-administration-shoots-down-rumors-of-nationwide-quarantine
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 17, 2020, 10:23:27 AM
(https://scontent.fden3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89958768_1309825309405428_8656337032664055808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=2d5d41&_nc_ohc=Y6nOG1G-1R4AX9SCrHq&_nc_ht=scontent.fden3-1.fna&oh=2f39df7774d73269a0518ee8570095d9&oe=5E98386F)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 17, 2020, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 05:51:31 AM
No it  isnt any worse than the  flu. My problem with Trump is  his  dumbassery corona  updates. He  came  on yesterday  and said the  idiotic  10 person thing, then recommended people  punish bars and restaurants all for  nothing  in my opinion. And yea, i heard Fauchi try  to correct  him when he  ran up and grabbed the  mike  and said  it  was  just  for  15 days after a reporter  asked  trump how  long  it  would  last  and  he  said  maybe till july  or  august. Trump also made a  mess  of things  by  saying  he  may have to force a  national lockdown, curfew and  quarantiine. The  market tanked.

What Trump should  be  doing  in his  conferences  is start  by listing  point  by point  all the good  news. He  should  also have said that  no way  in hell is  he  going to lock the  country  down. He  needs to be an optimistic  leader, not  a  fearmonger.
I bet  Rush's  head exploded  when he  heard  it. You could  tell he was exasperated with Trump on Friday. Finally, he  needs to bring people  who have recovered to every  update and  let them talk.
City governments across this nation are closing schools, businesses, gatherings, state governments are closing events, limiting the number of citizens who can gather in one place, the lsm is constantly showing empty grocery shelves as if they will never be full again, every station has updates on the newest policies that are being implemented by local governments, and you blame Trump?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 17, 2020, 11:39:36 AM
QuotePattrik Perez
@PattrikPerez
·
Mar 15
There are now a total of 6 #coronavirus cases in Austin-Travis Co. Not believed to be community spread.

Beginning tomorrow, all city libraries, pools, golf courses, athletic programs, recreation centers, & cultural centers will close. @austinanimals
will close to public. @KVUE

I could expect closings if austin was looking at 50,000+ cases, they are looking at 6. And those were brought in. And today austin closed restaurants and bars.  Starting to look like cities are looking to bring down as much of the economy as they can. But some people blame Trump.  ???
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 17, 2020, 11:57:07 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 17, 2020, 11:39:36 AM
I could expect closings if austin was looking at 50,000+ cases, they are looking at 6. And those were brought in. And today austin closed restaurants and bars.  Starting to look like cities are looking to bring down as much of the economy as they can. But some people blame Trump.  ???
Excellent point!!! And another reason we don't need to be giving our tax dollars to the socialist shit holes.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 12:09:48 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 17, 2020, 11:57:07 AM
Excellent point!!! And another reason we don't need to be giving our tax dollars to the socialist shit holes.

Trump the fearmonger  is the  one  who keeps talking  about  a  national lockdown. he  did it again today saying  he  hasnt decided  yet. Another morbid corona  update.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 12:21:35 PM
I should  be doing the  updates and you would see hundreds of  recovered  people
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 17, 2020, 12:29:28 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 12:21:35 PM
I should  be doing the  updates and you would see hundreds of  recovered  people
So why are so many cities banning events and closing businesses?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on March 17, 2020, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 12:09:48 PM
Trump the fearmonger  is the  one  who keeps talking  about  a  national lockdown. he  did it again today saying  he  hasnt decided  yet. Another morbid corona  update.

Damn man! He was responding to a question. Any thinking person would agree this is a fluid situation. He can't answer the question yet.

Please get to the pharmacy before it closes. Your TDS is getting out of control.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on March 17, 2020, 12:43:09 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/coronavirus-european-union-leaders-agree-to-close-borders.html

This a living example of being late to the party. They should have started this years ago when the Muslim invasion began.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 01:06:35 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 17, 2020, 12:41:13 PM
Damn man! He was responding to a question. Any thinking person would agree this is a fluid situation. He can't answer the question yet.

Please get to the pharmacy before it closes. Your TDS is getting out of control.

Trump is the  one  person who has a  national voice. All he  needs to do shut  down the lockdown talk, bring  in recovered people to updates, and list  point  by point all the good  news.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 01:08:10 PM
Oh yea, from what  i heard  on Hannity Gov Cuomo actually  did shutdown deblasio's  NYC shutdown nonsense.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 17, 2020, 05:42:50 PM
If you want some unbiased facts  on corona this  guy  is doing a great  job.

https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:17:46 AM
Lets see how morbid Trump is today. National guard being called out. guess they shoot the virus. Mnuchin talking about 20% unemployment, businesses being destroyed. All for a mild cold. Futures trading halted again.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2020, 05:28:08 AM
https://twitter.com/AFPgraphics/status/1240248473095737345
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:31:01 AM
Trump better get on the air and tell governors to open up businesses
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 18, 2020, 05:34:48 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:17:46 AM
Lets see how morbid Trump is today. National guard being called out. guess they shoot the virus. Mnuchin talking about 20% unemployment, businesses being destroyed. All for a mild cold. Futures trading halted again.
State and city governments are closing most of the businesses. Austin just closed restaurants without one case of the virus caused by common environment. It is the city mayor who is acting like austin has over 100,000 cases instead of just ten. He did not warn that if cases were caused by common environment they would be closed, he just closed them. People out of work. And you blame Trump.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2020, 05:38:21 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:17:46 AM
Lets see how morbid Trump is today. National guard being called out. guess they shoot the virus. Mnuchin talking about 20% unemployment, businesses being destroyed. All for a mild cold. Futures trading halted again.
Just a flu eh?
Well good for you then, you better hope you don't get it then, because even if you recover, you may wind up with severe organ damage, shortening your life and quality of life till you die, assuming it didn't kill you in the first place.
There are two strains, are you willing to risk your life thinking it won't target you?
This is just a random pick of the thousands of articles out there, but the WHO has more in depth info.

Dr. Yoko Furuya, an infectious disease specialist at Columbia University Irving Medical Center.

"Because our body senses all of those viruses as basically foreign invaders, that triggers our immune system to sweep in and try to contain and control the virus and stop it from making more and more copies of itself," she says.

But Furuya says that this immune system response to this invader can also destroy lung tissue and cause inflammation. The end result can be pneumonia. That means the air sacs in the lungs become inflamed and filled with fluid, making it harder to breathe.

Del Rio says that these symptoms can also make it harder for the lungs to get oxygen to your blood, potentially triggering a cascade of problems. "The lack of oxygen leads to more inflammation, more problems in the body. Organs need oxygen to function, right? So when you don't have oxygen there, then your liver dies and your kidney dies," he says.

https://traptown.com/health-2/how-patients-die-after-contracting-covid-19-the-new-coronavirus-disease-goats-and-soda/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:38:28 AM
Trump is the  one who said  no more than 10 person gatherings and  Trump said  on air basically  he wants the  restaurant  industry  destroyed. All for  a  virus thats  harmless to almost everyone.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 18, 2020, 05:45:24 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:38:28 AM
Trump is the  one who said  no more than 10 person gatherings and  Trump said  on air basically  he wants the  restaurant  industry  destroyed. All for  a  virus thats  harmless to almost everyone.
That has to be one of the stupidest statements ever on this forum.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:49:30 AM
Here is the  biggest piece  of nonsense. Maria  Bartriromo asking  if  getting the  virus  makes you  immune to future attacks. Its a  virus, of  course  it  does, idiot. If  it were the  case that getting  doesnt  give you  immunity then working  on a vaccine  is  totally  pointless.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:51:05 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 18, 2020, 05:38:21 AM
Just a flu eh?
Well good for you then, you better hope you don't get it then, because even if you recover, you may wind up with severe organ damage, shortening your life and quality of life till you die, assuming it didn't kill you in the first place.
There are two strains, are you willing to risk your life thinking it won't target you?
This is just a random pick of the thousands of articles out there, but the WHO has more in depth info.

Dr. Yoko Furuya, an infectious disease specialist at Columbia University Irving Medical Center.

"Because our body senses all of those viruses as basically foreign invaders, that triggers our immune system to sweep in and try to contain and control the virus and stop it from making more and more copies of itself," she says.

But Furuya says that this immune system response to this invader can also destroy lung tissue and cause inflammation. The end result can be pneumonia. That means the air sacs in the lungs become inflamed and filled with fluid, making it harder to breathe.

Del Rio says that these symptoms can also make it harder for the lungs to get oxygen to your blood, potentially triggering a cascade of problems. "The lack of oxygen leads to more inflammation, more problems in the body. Organs need oxygen to function, right? So when you don't have oxygen there, then your liver dies and your kidney dies," he says.

https://traptown.com/health-2/how-patients-die-after-contracting-covid-19-the-new-coronavirus-disease-goats-and-soda/

There seem to be quite a few people recovered with nothing  like that, in fact  just about  everyone
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:51:49 AM
Trump will back on the air at  11am with more doom and  gloom.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2020, 05:56:50 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 05:51:05 AM
There seem to be quite a few people recovered with nothing  like that, in fact  just about  everyone
There's two strains gumby. Will you be lucky enough to catch the mild version?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 09:19:09 AM
Im not  going to catch it. Another  press  conference and not a  bit  of  good  news and  not  1 recovered person on stage. The  doctor  is spreading  more doom and gloom. Who are the  idiots advising Trump on this?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2020, 09:39:38 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 18, 2020, 09:19:09 AM
Im not  going to catch it. Another  press  conference and not a  bit  of  good  news and  not  1 recovered person on stage. The  doctor  is spreading  more doom and gloom. Who are the  idiots advising Trump on this?
ORRRR? Maybe he is telling the truth and you're so full blind hate, you refuse to accept it?
But hey, if you want to live in happy bliss thinking you're somehow immune, go for it, don't heed the warnings, but keep in mind, you could wind up a carrier and expose others.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2020, 02:56:35 PM
Well now this is weird. :lol:
I was looking for something entirely different, when I stumbled across this little tidbit.


(https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2020/03/FactCheckSylviaBrowneEndOfDays.png?resize=1200,630&quality=65)

Of course Snopes claimed it was a mix of true and claimed it to be a lucky guess, but seems a bit too exact to discount as an accident. :lol:

I've been saying the same thing, that this will end as quick as it started and the economy will come roaring back after the worst global recession in history.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sylvia-browne-coronavirus/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 18, 2020, 04:05:28 PM
From Stanford University Hospital.  Toy

The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs.

1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold.
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!
THE SYMPTOMS
1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 day
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on March 18, 2020, 04:31:57 PM
How about we call it the Soros Virus? He owns it!
https://breakingnewshouse.c...

Scroll down the list to "WuXi PharmaTech Inc."

look it up on Wikipedia:


"WuXi opened a large-scale manufacturing facility in Jinshan in 2010. The company began a biologics discovery, development, and manufacturing operation in Shanghai and Wuxi City in 2011. At the same year, WuXi acquired MedKey, a China-based clinical research company, and Abgent, a San Diego company and one of the world's largest manufacturers of antibodies for biological research and drug discovery. In 2012, WuXi opened a chemistry facility in Wuhan and a GMP biologics drug-substance facility in Wuxi City. That year WuXi also entered into a joint venture with MedImmune and Kevin Tucker, the biologics arm of AstraZeneca, to co-develop MEDI5117, an anti-IL6 antibody for rheumatoid arthritis for the Chinese market. In 2013, WuXi formed a joint venture with the global clinical contract research organization PRA International (now called PRA Health Sciences) to build a clinical research business in China.[citation needed]"

(highlights added for emphasis) 

The Globalists have called for a dramatic reduction in population.... meh... who knows.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 18, 2020, 04:47:01 PM
Nice seeing you again young man.   :thumbup:
Title: Two Dims Contract COVID
Post by: Solar on March 18, 2020, 06:40:21 PM
How many more Dims have it and we're just not hearing about it?

Democratic Congressman Ben McAdams Tests Positive For Coronavirus

McAdams is the second member of Congress to test positive for the coronavirus. Florida Republican Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart revealed Wednesday that he had tested positive for the virus, becoming the first U.S. lawmaker to contract the virus, Politico reported. Diaz-Balart said he began to develop symptoms Saturday hours after leaving the House floor where 400 other members of Congress had also convened for a vote on a coronavirus response bill.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/18/ben-mcadams-congress-positive-coronavirus/

Walks, feel free to move this tomorrow.
Thanks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on March 19, 2020, 04:05:06 AM
From what I've heard, this Coronavirus has been invented for the purpose of ending globalization processes around the World. United States, United Kingdom, and Russia, have agreed on this, and Brexit for example was also part of this process. This process should trigger some economic and political changes and recomposition of the World, bring local industries back, and dismantle some globalist political structures. Countries and borders are closed, and people is forced to remain in their local communities. Everyone should care a bit more about their individual health and try not to catch the virus, remain calm, sit and watch what will happen. I belive President Trump knows what he is doing, and that he should be trusted.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 05:33:23 AM
Death rate going  down, and  its not a  big  death rate anyway, as testing  goes  up. expect  it  sink below 1%

Yossi Gestetner
@YossiGestetner
·
5h
US #CoronaVirusDeathRate

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% M9   26/704

3.01% M10  30/994

2.95% M11  38/1,295

2.52% M12  42/1,695

2.27% M13  49/2,247

1.93% M14  57/2,954

1.84% M15  68/3,680

1.82% M16  85/4661

1.70% M17  109/6,411

1.62% March 18   150/9,259
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 05:36:12 AM
Compare that to a worldwideSars death rate  of  9.6% where  nothing  shut  down.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 05:40:52 AM
Why Trump doesnt  show  this  chart at  every  update  i have  no idea. Germany  has a  0.22 death rate.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 19, 2020, 06:01:54 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 05:40:52 AM
Why Trump doesnt  show  this  chart at  every  update i have  no idea. Germany  has a  0.22 death rate.
:thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on March 19, 2020, 07:11:02 AM
If you throw enough baloney around you may be close to a target on occasion.

https://skepticalinquirer.org/2020/03/the-psychic-defective-revisited-years-later-sylvia-brownes-accuracy-remains/

But this is a tough topic, pandemics, and this OP is tough.

"It is not surprising that for the virus one speaks of war. The emergency measures obligate us in fact to life in conditions of curfew. But a war with an invisible enemy that can lurk in every other person is the most absurd of wars. It is, in reality, a civil war. The enemy is not outside, it is within us."

https://itself.blog/2020/03/17/giorgio-agamben-clarifications/

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2020, 07:24:54 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 05:33:23 AM
Death rate going  down, and  its not a  big  death rate anyway, as testing  goes  up. expect  it  sink below 1%

Yossi Gestetner
@YossiGestetner
·
5h
US #CoronaVirusDeathRate

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% M9   26/704

3.01% M10  30/994

2.95% M11  38/1,295

2.52% M12  42/1,695

2.27% M13  49/2,247

1.93% M14  57/2,954

1.84% M15  68/3,680

1.82% M16  85/4661

1.70% M17  109/6,411

1.62% March 18   150/9,259
You're such a troll! You post shit without context, no link then claim so imaginary victory, all the while never considering how this effects our health care system which is being stressed to the max.
You better hope you don't need to visit the emergency room, because the wait times will more than likely be detrimental in the long term.

Note how Italy is twice that amount on any given day, know why? Because of socialized medicine! That's why we won't suffer as badly as the rest of the world, we have a competitive system, unlike the rest of the world, where they have only the basic minimum of care.
A socialized system only provides the basic minimum, calculated of a normal month/year/decade, but throw in a pandemic and people die!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 07:32:12 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 19, 2020, 07:24:54 AM
You're such a troll! You post shit without context, no link then claim so imaginary victory, all the while never considering how this effects our health care system which is being stressed to the max.
You better hope you don't need to visit the emergency room, because the wait times will more than likely be detrimental in the long term.

Note how Italy is twice that amount on any given day, know why? Because of socialized medicine! That's why we won't suffer as badly as the rest of the world, we have a competitive system, unlike the rest of the world, where they have only the basic minimum of care.
A socialized system only provides the basic minimum, calculated of a normal month/year/decade, but throw in a pandemic and people die!

I would say the reason is  Italys population is  10 years  older than ours. The  median age  of  infection there  is  63 and  the  median death age  is  80 when alot  of  people  croak anyway. Its time  to loosen restrictions  on restaurants and younger  people and  limit the  stupid  social distancing to the elderly  and  infirm.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 07:33:28 AM
Oh, and  of  course Italy  kept  flights  coming  in from China.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2020, 07:34:52 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 07:32:12 AM
I would say the reason is  Italys population is  10 years  older than ours. The  median age  of  infection there  is  63 and  the  median death age  is  80 when alot  of  people  croak anyway. Its time  to loosen restrictions  on restaurants and younger  people and  limit the  stupid  social distancing to the elderly  and  infirm.
Yes, we all read that excuse as well, the US has Baby Boomers in the same boat. Fact is, Italy's HC system was not designed for more than the basic minimum, as most European HC is second par to ours.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 07:41:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 19, 2020, 07:34:52 AM
Yes, we all read that excuse as well, the US has Baby Boomers in the same boat. Fact is, Italy's HC system was not designed for more than the basic minimum, as most European HC is second par to ours.

Im not arguing we are  better than the EU, of course we are. I AM saying  its time to limit  social distancing to the elderly and  infirm.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 08:21:50 AM
I  know everyone  is  concerned about  Tom Hanks, luckily  even though he  is elderly  and  has diabetes the  hideous deadly  corona  virus gave  him the  "blahs". Even more reason to shut  down a whole economy.

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/tom-hanks-feeling-better-vegemite-090644432.html?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 08:33:48 AM
More  good  news!!! HOORAH!!! The  forest grove  couple  so many were concerned about  have  made  it  home and they also survived to hideous deadly  wuhan virus
though i dont  know  if they have the  blahs

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/couple-stuck-in-japan-for-weeks-after-cruise-ship-quarantine-now-back-home-in-forest-grove/ar-BB114rtV
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2020, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 08:33:48 AM
More  good  news!!! HOORAH!!! The  forest grove  couple  so many were concerned about  have  made  it  home and they also survived to hideous deadly  wuhan virus
though i dont  know  if they have the  blahs

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/couple-stuck-in-japan-for-weeks-after-cruise-ship-quarantine-now-back-home-in-forest-grove/ar-BB114rtV
Your callousness is noted.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 01:13:44 PM
my  quick calculation on the  numbers  hannity  just  had of  157 deaths and  11500 cases it  drops the  death rate  to about  1.36%
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 19, 2020, 09:24:37 AM
Your callousness is noted.

Callousness as opposed to fearmongering? I think it was some  on here who had  all kinds  of  fearmongering  over the  couple. like  just  about  everyone  they are fine.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 01:24:30 PM
My  quick calculation of  1.36% of  course doesnt  include the  multitudes
who had no symptons at all or  the  sniffles and  never knew they had  it
so i think i can be  very  confident the  death rate  is well under 1%.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2020, 01:56:41 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 01:19:42 PM
Callousness as opposed to fearmongering? I think it was some  on here who had  all kinds  of  fearmongering  over the  couple. like  just  about  everyone  they are fine.
Wrong!!! I posted about her being kept in isolation even though she showed no signs of the virus.
If you're going to talk shit, at least have a basis for truth!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2020, 01:58:33 PM
Culling the elderly!!!   Covid 19 "Quite Useful" In Culling Older People From National Health Service

Ya know all that talk about death panels and health care rationing and whatnot? Well here we have a Scottish official talking how the coronavirus will be "quite useful" in taking bed blockers out of the system. Or in other words, she's talking about how great it will be to get rid of older people who are taking up beds in hospitals.



https://bluntforcetruth.com/news/here-we-go-scottish-official-says-covid-19-quite-useful-in-culling-older-people-from-national-health-service/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 05:22:54 PM
This is somewhat  surprising. Ilhan omar praises Trump

https://ijr.com/omar-offers-praise-trump-coronavirus/?utm_campaign=IJR%20-%20Facebook%20Content&utm_content=122322405&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&hss_channel=fbp-406726216017535
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on March 19, 2020, 05:25:31 PM
Speaking of Italy (wish I had sources to link to... sorry!):   I heard there is a leather factory that China bought, and staffed it with thousands of slave-labor types, some of them brought it over from China.   Second "rumor" was China was accusing them of Racism, and some nutty Chinese guy was walking around with a sign, 'I am a person, not a virus, free hugs.' - he was also infected.

I don't have the free time hang around and really engage in a lengthy discussion - sorry!  my 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 19, 2020, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on March 19, 2020, 05:25:31 PM
Speaking of Italy (wish I had sources to link to... sorry!):   I heard there is a leather factory that China bought, and staffed it with thousands of slave-labor types, some of them brought it over from China.   Second "rumor" was China was accusing them of Racism, and some nutty Chinese guy was walking around with a sign, 'I am a person, not a virus, free hugs.' - he was also infected.

I don't have the free time hang around and really engage in a lengthy discussion - sorry!  my 2 cents worth.
It is the several of the clothing manufacturing using Chinese labor also. From what I remember, mostly the higher end lines.
Title: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2020, 07:15:41 PM
Good luck with that!!!

All 40 million residents in the state of California have been ordered to stay home to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

The state is one of the worst affected in the US after Washington and New York. There are now 910 coronavirus cases in California, including 19 deaths.

New York has at least 5,298 cases, while Washington has at least 1,376 confirmed cases.

California is the most populous US state and is the country's largest state economy.

Watch:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-19-20-intl-hnk

Walks, feel free to merge this tomorrow after noon.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Killer Clouds on March 19, 2020, 07:48:55 PM
I will be going to work tomorrow unless I get an official call tonight. Newsome can go fuck himself.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2020, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on March 19, 2020, 07:48:55 PM
I will be going to work tomorrow unless I get an official call tonight. Newsome can go fuck himself.
Yeah, it was a pretty hollow call on his part. According to what I've read, nothing changes. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2020, 08:41:44 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Los Angeles Mayor says he will 'deputize' city officials to 'drive around' & enforce the "stay at home" order, implying there will be arrests if citizens don't comply

"People are getting guns. They're going crazy..."

"We'll pay 'em a visit..."

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1240834216646119426
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Killer Clouds on March 19, 2020, 09:01:25 PM
So what if people in Kalifornia are buying guns and ammo? They can't take possession for 10 days.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 20, 2020, 03:34:52 AM
Yeah right...... :rolleyes:

The Idiot in Virginia is "considering" the same measures.....I can't wait until they try
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: American Exceptionalism on March 20, 2020, 03:44:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 19, 2020, 08:41:44 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Los Angeles Mayor says he will 'deputize' city officials to 'drive around' & enforce the "stay at home" order, implying there will be arrests if citizens don't comply

"People are getting guns. They're going crazy..."

"We'll pay 'em a visit..."

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1240834216646119426


Brilliant. After they are arrested, then what?  Put them together?
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 04:02:06 AM
Quote from: American Exceptionalism on March 20, 2020, 03:44:16 AM

Brilliant. After they are arrested, then what?  Put them together?
In groups less than 10.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 04:19:15 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 01:24:30 PM
My  quick calculation of  1.36% of  course doesnt  include the  multitudes
who had no symptons at all or  the  sniffles and  never knew they had  it
so i think i can be  very  confident the  death rate  is well under 1%.
You are blaming this on Trump, however as pointed out before, Cities are closing businesses, states are issuing restrictions, other countries are
closing borders and quarantines of entire cities. The nba, not Trump cancelled games. Point here is, does the rest of the world know something
you don't? or should the rest of the world look to you for how to handle this?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:12:33 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 04:19:15 AM
You are blaming this on Trump, however as pointed out before, Cities are closing businesses, states are issuing restrictions, other countries are
closing borders and quarantines of entire cities. The nba, not Trump cancelled games. Point here is, does the rest of the world know something
you don't? or should the rest of the world look to you for how to handle this?
Think of him as a blind, retarded pit bull with a severe case of constipation.

He latches onto something he's convinced himself is evil and refuses to let go. So if you happen to see a dog locked onto a tire of a 747 flying over head, you'll know the whole story.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:20:38 AM
Quote from: American Exceptionalism on March 20, 2020, 03:44:16 AM

Brilliant. After they are arrested, then what?  Put them together?
This is the epitome Dim, dumber than a box of rocks who thinks he's smarter than everyone else. What he's done is put a target on the backs of La police.
I know they aren't happy about this, and will more than likely turn a blind eye on the street.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: American Exceptionalism on March 20, 2020, 05:24:48 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:20:38 AM
This is the epitome Dim, dumber than a box of rocks who thinks he's smarter than everyone else. What he's done is put a target on the backs of La police.
I know they aren't happy about this, and will more than likely turn a blind eye on the street.

Governor Numbnuts Murphy put a curfew here. No drving after 8PM The Association of Police Chiefs said they won't enforce it.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 05:35:00 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 20, 2020, 03:34:52 AM
Yeah right...... :rolleyes:

The Idiot in Virginia is "considering" the same measures.....I can't wait until they try

They will do it
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:47:28 AM
Quote from: American Exceptionalism on March 20, 2020, 05:24:48 AM
Governor Numbnuts Murphy put a curfew here. No drving after 8PM The Association of Police Chiefs said they won't enforce it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Can you imagine turning your police force into a bunch of Nazi storm troopers? Cops are people too, they have lives and families as well. The last thing they want to do is harass the innocent and make themselves a target.
Garcetti just signed his political death warrant.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:48:48 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 05:35:00 AM
They will do it
What makes you so certain, and do you seriously think the entire state is going to comply? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 05:53:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:48:48 AM
What makes you so certain, and do you seriously think the entire state is going to comply? :rolleyes:

Yea, the  cops  come at you with a gun and you will comply.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 05:58:43 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 19, 2020, 05:33:23 AM
Death rate going  down, and  its not a  big  death rate anyway, as testing  goes  up. expect  it  sink below 1%

Yossi Gestetner
@YossiGestetner
·
5h
US #CoronaVirusDeathRate

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% M9   26/704

3.01% M10  30/994

2.95% M11  38/1,295

2.52% M12  42/1,695

2.27% M13  49/2,247

1.93% M14  57/2,954

1.84% M15  68/3,680

1.82% M16  85/4661

1.70% M17  109/6,411

1.62% March 18   150/9,259
based  on numbers today from fox 205/14250 the death rate is  down to 1.44%. Large  drop in 1 day.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 06:00:02 AM
Trump had better say today the restrictions need to be  lifted and get the  economy  moving.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 06:08:16 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 06:00:02 AM
Trump had better say today the restrictions need to be  lifted and get the  economy  moving.
You seem to know more than the rest of the world, congratulations. Where do you get your facts?
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 06:09:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:47:28 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Can you imagine turning your police force into a bunch of Nazi storm troopers? Cops are people too, they have lives and families as well. The last thing they want to do is harass the innocent and make themselves a target.
Garcetti just signed his political death warrant.
Where as I do not think this will turn California Republican, surly it will not be solid democrat???
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 06:10:44 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 06:08:16 AM
You seem to know more than the rest of the world, congratulations. Where do you get your facts?
He lifts his tin foil hat and the voices tell him.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 06:13:32 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 06:09:50 AM
Where as I do not think this will turn California Republican, surly it will not be solid democrat???
The Dim party is in serious trouble here and you can be certain trump will make it a campaign issue. Just the fact that Nuisance is Pelosi's nephew is going to be his lead weight, she is now toxic in the state.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 05:53:11 AM
Yea, the  cops  come at you with a gun and you will comply.
Really, for what? You do realize the Gubernor is blowing hot air, what he said has no teeth. I suggest you brush up on the topic before you look any dumber.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 08:19:55 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


https://twitter.com/JoshLeCash/status/1240058237174468608
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 08:23:12 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 06:08:16 AM
You seem to know more than the rest of the world, congratulations. Where do you get your facts?

There  is finally beginning to be  pushback on all the stupid  shutdowns. WSJ and  others  are  beginning to realize the  damage trump and  governors  are doing to people and the economy  is far  worse than the virus. Isolate the  elderly  and  infirm and get everyone else  back to work.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 08:28:56 AM
It would seem likely there will be  a  2nd  quarter contraction of  24%, staggering. millions  of  unemployed and thousands of  closed  for  good  businesses means  biden is an easy  winner. Trump needs to get  on TV and say the  10 person thing was draconian. Limit any  restrictions to elderly. I dont  care who is really to blame for this but  Trump is  going to be  blamed  by  people in line  for  hours at  unemployment. Every day he  keeps this lockdown going  is  killing  the economy for a  long time to come.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 08:28:56 AM
It would seem likely there will be  a  2nd  quarter contraction of  24%, staggering. millions  of  unemployed and thousands of  closed  for  good  businesses means  biden is an easy  winner. Trump needs to get  on TV and say the  10 person thing was draconian. Limit any  restrictions to elderly. I dont  care who is really to blame for this but  Trump is  going to be  blamed  by  people in line  for  hours at  unemployment. Every day he  keeps this lockdown going  is  killing  the economy for a  long time to come.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ROFL!!! That's rich, a lib who thinks he smarter than our entire scientific community, worldwide. What other great wisdom can you impart to us brainless masses? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 09:01:06 AM
Trump just totally  ignored the WSJ and  praised the  california  lockdown. No positivity, no nothing  except more free  money  for everyone.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 09:04:23 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 08:40:39 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ROFL!!! That's rich, a lib who thinks he smarter than our entire scientific community, worldwide. What other great wisdom can you impart to us brainless masses? :rolleyes:

24% may be  low. Just heard to expect  2 million unemployment  claims  just next  week. Maybe the dumbest thing  he said was he and democrats are starting  to like each other. He hasnt  got  a  clue.  Not  one  positive thing  so far, just  how  much govt  is going to expand and how  much free money  he  can hand  out. This is just the tip of the  iceberg. Tax recepits are going  to collapse with a  24% economic  contraction. And here goes the  market  tanking  on a slew  of  negativity.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 09:19:16 AM
That  idiot  woman is  making  it  sound  like the  black plague. Dont these jackasses realize all this  panic crap is whats causing  more  people to run to hospitals. America  isnt tough and new yorkers arent tough if this  virus can do what the  japanese couldnt. Basically  an hour of doom and  gloom and continue to lockdown the  economy. Im sick to death about hearing  of  economic recovery measures  in congress. No wonder  so many democrats  like whats trump is doing. Total power  in Nov.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 09:26:50 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 09:19:16 AM
That  idiot  woman is  making  it  sound  like the  black plague. Dont these jackasses realize all this  panic crap is whats causing  more  people to run to hospitals. America  isnt tough and new yorkers arent tough if this  virus can do what the  japanese couldnt. Basically  an hour of doom and  gloom and continue to lockdown the  economy. Im sick to death about hearing  of  economic recovery measures  in congress. No wonder  so many democrats  like whats trump is doing. Total power  in Nov.
This is rich, you post "That  idiot  woman", as if we can all read minds and see the future like you. (Link Genius?) You fail to understand, we're nothing but mere mortals next to you.
So tell us Oh Wise One, what does the future hold? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 09:26:50 AM
This is rich, you post "That  idiot  woman", as if we can all read minds and see the future like you. (Link Genius?) You fail to understand, we're nothing but mere mortals next to you.
So tell us Oh Wise One, what does the future hold? :rolleyes:

At least a 24% contraction with a unemployment rate  of  10+%. Trump actually  stood  up there and was  proud  of  paying  people  not to work. Govt  cant  sustain checks to people  for  long. Proud of  paying people  not to work. Sanders must  be  laughing right  now.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 10:17:14 AM
This was a disaster of a  news  conference. The thing to take away is Trump is  proud to pay people to be  unemployed. I think he is actually  enjoying this. Once again dont eat at restaurants. They and small business can go to hell. State govts are going to run out  of  money  real soon and next we will have to bail them out. The  gist  of the  update  is this  may last  forever. Trump is taking  over the economy, or whats going to be  left  of  it and  i see no difference  between what  he and sanders would  do.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 10:19:13 AM
Fauchi is  up there with trump praising  newsome shutting  down california. Could someone  please ask the  idiots why Italy  is  in total lockdown and cases arent dropping. Does trump or any of them have any common sense? Does anyone know  of the  way  flu works. Its well known the  one big reason flu is so prevalent  in winter  is  because  more people stay inside. So what are these  idiots saying? Instead  of saying go about your  life and enjoy spring they are staying stay inside. You cannot  lockdown a virus. Cant wait for Trump to be  gone after this. No one  could be worse. Not a  bit  of  optimism and nothing  but  fearmongering crap.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 10:27:05 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 19, 2020, 07:15:41 PM
Good luck with that!!!

All 40 million residents in the state of California have been ordered to stay home to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

The state is one of the worst affected in the US after Washington and New York. There are now 910 coronavirus cases in California, including 19 deaths.

New York has at least 5,298 cases, while Washington has at least 1,376 confirmed cases.

California is the most populous US state and is the country's largest state economy.

Watch:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-19-20-intl-hnk

Walks, feel free to merge this tomorrow after noon.

Trump praised Newsome today
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 10:28:00 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 06:13:32 AM
The Dim party is in serious trouble here and you can be certain trump will make it a campaign issue. Just the fact that Nuisance is Pelosi's nephew is going to be his lead weight, she is now toxic in the state.

Trump backed  up Newsome.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:48:48 AM
What makes you so certain, and do you seriously think the entire state is going to comply? :rolleyes:

Trump agrees with Newsome, you tell me?
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 10:36:29 AM
I  know  some  of you will say im lying about trump agreeing with newsome but  so you can see for yourself here  is the  whole  disaster of an update. And while you will think its a  plan from bernie sanders, it really  is trump talking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPiJ_7ek9i0
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 09:34:31 AM
At least a 24% contraction with a unemployment rate  of  10+%. Trump actually  stood  up there and was  proud  of  paying  people  not to work. Govt  cant  sustain checks to people  for  long. Proud of  paying people  not to work. Sanders must  be  laughing right  now.
Prediction? Come on, you're so certain of doom and gloom, tell us what the future holds.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
Trump agrees with Newsome, you tell me?
Newsome also said that if not for Trump there would have been far more COVID exposure. That he followed Trump's guidance and it worked as planned.
You do know this so called lock down of Ca is essentially nothing beyond what the State can do with its employee base, right?
I don't see anyone praising Garcetti for locking down la.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:04:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 10:55:07 AM
Prediction? Come on, you're so certain of doom and gloom, tell us what the future holds.

Biden!!!and  he  cant  be worse than trump. Depressions wash a  party away for a  long time. He said he wants  keep businesses  open yet  he  is  doing  everything  possible to close them. Just  one example, if trump gets his way and no one goes to theme  parks  in FLA then that  alone takes  75 billion out  of  florida's economy. As someone said  on Fox these  1200 dollars checks  compared to the  mass unemployment  coming is a tick on an elephants ass.

And  going  back to florida most states get 50-60% of tax  money from sales tax, and a good  bit  from gas tax. Sales tax receipts are going to plunge along with the gas tax. How  long will it  be before every state comes to the socialist trump and wants a  bailout? Florida  is  basically  gone. Tourism dead, no money  coming  in.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Killer Clouds on March 20, 2020, 11:07:19 AM
I'm at work. In fact we are working overtime this weekend.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 10:59:01 AM
Newsome also said that if not for Trump there would have been far more COVID exposure. That he followed Trump's guidance and it worked as planned.
You do know this so called lock down of Ca is essentially nothing beyond what the State can do with its employee base, right?
I don't see anyone praising Garcetti for locking down la.

Its great what trump did and  he did  indeed lockdown and destroy the CA economy  on his  buddies advice. Trump better realize fast  people dont  vote for the  president  in office when they lost thier  job. At this  point we may as well just the  whole  country  on lockdown and  just  pay everyone with money  printed  by the fed, it  wont  be taxpayer  money because with millions  unemployed and thousands  of  businesses gone taxpayer  money  will dry  up.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:11:53 AM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on March 20, 2020, 11:07:19 AM
I'm at work. In fact we are working overtime this weekend.

Good  for  you. But  millions wont  be.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: walkstall on March 20, 2020, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:11:53 AM
Good  for  you. But  millions wont  be.

But, but Millions will be even from home.   This may open up working for home bigly.
And cut down office space and parking lots.  Even less sick time or 3 day weekends.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 20, 2020, 11:28:39 AM
Govenment will alway get there money.  They will just start taxing everything sold on line.  Just like they do the gas tax.  If one hole dry's up the government will open two new holes for taxes.   
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:36:59 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 20, 2020, 11:22:26 AM
But, but Millions will be even from home.   This may open up working for home bigly.
And cut down office space and parking lots.  Even less sick time or 3 day weekends.

Yea thats awesome for  financial businesses that  can do work over a  phone. Millions  of  people work in jobs where they cant stay home and work. Having worked  in a  bank i knew quite a few waitresses from Tommy's, a restaurant. They were  open 6am-3pm and were packed from open to close. Alot  of the girls would  bring  in more than a thousand a week in small bills. Tommy's employs about 80 people, or  did. Trumps war  on small  buisness is disgusting  in my opinion. All this  money trump is throwing at the  problem, is as i said  in another  post a tick on an elephants ass. The way to solve this  is tell the  elderly  to be  careful and everyone else  get  back to work.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 20, 2020, 11:28:39 AM
Govenment will alway get there money.  They will just start taxing everything sold on line.  Just like they do the gas tax.  If one hole dry's up the government will open two new holes for taxes.

Sure, but if  Trump Doesnt change his course fast you  cant tax people  who dont work. Alot  more wont  be working and all trump has to do to fix  it  is limit restrictions  to the elderly.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Killer Clouds on March 20, 2020, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:10:18 AM
Its great what trump did and  he did  indeed lockdown and destroy the CA economy  on his  buddies advice. Trump better realize fast  people dont  vote for the  president  in office when they lost thier  job. At this  point we may as well just the  whole  country  on lockdown and  just  pay everyone with money  printed  by the fed, it  wont  be taxpayer  money because with millions  unemployed and thousands  of  businesses gone taxpayer  money  will dry  up.
If you would quit smoking crack and sober up the world might be a better place for you. Trump did NOT shut down Kalifornia. What is shut down was closed by the demonrat POS Newsom. Facts matter.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on March 20, 2020, 11:56:06 AM
If you would quit smoking crack and sober up the world might be a better place for you. Trump did NOT shut down Kalifornia. What is shut down was closed by the demonrat POS Newsom. Facts matter.

And Trump praised him for  closing  california. this  is an economic disaster that  may rival the great depression. Charles Payne said if you want to see shock and awe, look at  unemployment claims  on thursday. 4-5 million?
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: supsalemgr on March 20, 2020, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:36:59 AM
Yea thats awesome for  financial businesses that  can do work over a  phone. Millions  of  people work in jobs where they cant stay home and work. Having worked  in a  bank i knew quite a few waitresses from Tommy's, a restaurant. They were  open 6am-3pm and were packed from open to close. Alot  of the girls would  bring  in more than a thousand a week in small bills. Tommy's employs about 80 people, or  did. Trumps war  on small  buisness is disgusting  in my opinion. All this  money trump is throwing at the  problem, is as i said  in another  post a tick on an elephants ass. The way to solve this  is tell the  elderly  to be  careful and everyone else  get  back to work.

Please share your resource for declaring Trump has declared war on small business. If it is just your opinion let us know why.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:10:38 PM
Another  point is the  auto manufacturers  closing. That  is  going to have a staggering  impact rippling throughout  the economy. With millions unemployed due to the war  on small buisness not  too many people will be  buying  cars.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:10:55 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 20, 2020, 12:06:13 PM
Please share your resource for declaring Trump has declared war on small business. If it is just your opinion let us know why.
Whatever he pulls out of his ass.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:43:57 AM
Sure, but if  Trump Doesnt change his course fast you cant tax people  who dont work. Alot  more wont  be working and all trump has to do to fix  it  is limit restrictions  to the elderly.
47% of the people pay no taxes.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 20, 2020, 12:06:13 PM
Please share your resource for declaring Trump has declared war on small business. If it is just your opinion let us know why.

From listening to his stupid  updates. Limiting  gatherings  of  people to 10 was idiotic. From what  i heard from Nick, owner  of the  once  thriving  crab shack he  can be arrested  if  he tried to open up. there  is  NO reason most  people  shouldnt  be  back working  but  when trump praises new york and  california  for  shutting  down, thats a war  on small business. Big  business will come  back, but  millions  have  lost thier  jobs for  good.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:18:19 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:16:09 PM
47% of the people pay no taxes.

they pay sales and gas tax  and when no stores are  open and  people  arent  driving the states are going to be  getting  massive  bailouts  very  soon.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:22:20 PM
When Trump started  his  last  morbid  update the  market was  up 300, down 750 now.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:25:17 PM
Just  another victim of trumps  business  killing  guidelines. ALL movie theatres are closed down and they once  employed 150,000. You have  no idea  how  bad this economic tsunami is going to be.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:26:40 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:22:20 PM
When Trump started  his  last  morbid  update the  market was  up 300, down 750 now.
Is it Trump's fault that other nations are also closing businesses and quarantining citizens? Is it Trump's fault that leading Doctors are urging people to stay away from crowds?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:34:08 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:26:40 PM
Is it Trump's fault that other nations are also closing businesses and quarantining citizens? Is it Trump's fault that leading Doctors are urging people to stay away from crowds?

Its trumps fault  he  is  endorsing  it.  reporter today asked  trump if  he agreed with senator  Johnson that this  virus shouldnt  be shutting  down the  whole economy. Trump said today he agreed with what the  other  countries are doing, he  agreed with ca and  ny and  he  dismissed  johnson out  of  hand.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:38:03 PM
New Jersey now  complying  with Trump and shutting  down. The cascade effect  is  only  beginning. By the way shut  downs wont work. People  need to be  out and about. Trumps praise  of  New york will kill millions  more  jobs
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:43:46 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:38:03 PM
New Jersey now  complying  with Trump and shutting  down. The cascade effect  is  only  beginning. By the way shut  downs wont work. People  need to be  out and about. Trumps praise  of  New york will kill millions  more  jobs
Think Trump is doing this to increase business in his hotels?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:46:06 PM
At some  point with all these  shutdowns the precious supply  chain trump keeps talking about is  going to shut  down. Since Trump has pretty  much guaranteed a depression he  may as well take  over the  whole economy and declare  martial law. i t would  make things worse, but what the  hell, go for  it. We can be  like russia was and stand  in long lines for very  few supplies. All for  a  mild  cold.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:48:25 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:43:46 PM
Think Trump is doing this to increase business in his hotels?

I  honestly think he  is enjoying being a war time  president though that will be  short  lived  in Nov. and  just as  i predicted Fox  business  is starting to say the  govt  might  need to be a  "backstop" for  municipalities.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:48:25 PM
I  honestly think he  is enjoying being a war time  president though that will be  short  lived  in Nov. and  just as  i predicted Fox  business  is starting to say the  govt  might  need to be a  "backstop" for  municipalities.
Trump had the reelection won, and you think he threw all of that away so he could enjoy being a "war time" president?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 01:01:06 PM
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/03/20/early-signs-that-washington-states-curve-may-be-flattening/   

Quotemajor employers in Seattle were also well ahead of the rest of the country in asking employees to work from home. That both helps with social distancing and serves as a signal to people that it's not business-as-usual.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 01:05:00 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 12:56:11 PM
Trump had the reelection won, and you think he threw all of that away so he could enjoy being a "war time" president?

Of  course  not, he  had no idea this was going to happen. However, once  it  happened  he  has  made  one  blunder after another. He was almost  giddy in his  morbid  conference today about  how  well he  gets along  with gavin, chuck, and mario and  of  course they hate his  guts and are salivating at his  Nov  removal.

And yea, i think he  is enjoying this and  no doubt  his  yes  men and women are telling  him be even more  morbid. Its too late  now  but  Trump should  have brought  recovered  people to every  update
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 01:07:27 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 01:05:00 PM
Of  course  not, he  had no idea this was going to happen. However, once  it  happened  he  has  made  one  blunder after another. He was almost  giddy in his  morbid  conference today about  how  well he  gets along  with gavin, chuck, and mario and  of  course they hate his  guts and are salivating at his  Nov  removal.

And yea, i think he  is enjoying this and  no doubt  his  yes  men and women are telling  him be even more  morbid. Its too late  now  but  Trump should  have brought  recovered  people to every  update
But you have no proof. Why has the lsm not been pushing your theory? Think they like Trump now? They were saying he was not doing enough.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: supsalemgr on March 20, 2020, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:17:06 PM
From listening to his stupid  updates. Limiting  gatherings  of  people to 10 was idiotic. From what  i heard from Nick, owner  of the  once  thriving  crab shack he  can be arrested  if  he tried to open up. there  is  NO reason most  people  shouldnt  be  back working  but  when trump praises new york and  california  for  shutting  down, thats a war  on small business. Big  business will come  back, but  millions  have  lost thier  jobs for  good.

So, it is only your dislike for Trump. Trying to protect the populace is the goal. No question the GOVERNORS' action is not good for small business. However, it is quite a stretch to call it a war on small business by the president.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 01:13:21 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 01:05:00 PM
Of  course  not, he  had no idea this was going to happen. However, once  it  happened  he  has  made  one  blunder after another. He was almost  giddy in his  morbid  conference today about  how  well he  gets along  with gavin, chuck, and mario and  of  course they hate his  guts and are salivating at his  Nov  removal.

And yea, i think he  is enjoying this and  no doubt  his  yes  men and women are telling  him be even more  morbid. Its too late  now  but  Trump should  have brought  recovered  people to every  update
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/03/20/fauci-points-out-a-fundamental-difference-between-us-and-italy-in-terms-of-fighting-the-virus/

QuoteBut there may also another big difference between us and Italy. We could anticipate and we shut down traffic from China early and then subsequently Europe. They did not. The Mayor of Florence was even encouraging people to "hug Chinese people" in early February to fight "racism."

Facts are out there if you need help understanding why the world, the U.S, states, and cities responded like they did.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 11:04:20 AM
Biden!!!and  he  cant  be worse than trump. Depressions wash a  party away for a  long time. He said he wants  keep businesses  open yet  he  is  doing  everything  possible to close them. Just  one example, if trump gets his way and no one goes to theme  parks  in FLA then that  alone takes  75 billion out  of  florida's economy. As someone said  on Fox these  1200 dollars checks  compared to the  mass unemployment  coming is a tick on an elephants ass.

And  going  back to florida most states get 50-60% of tax  money from sales tax, and a good  bit  from gas tax. Sales tax receipts are going to plunge along with the gas tax. How  long will it  be before every state comes to the socialist trump and wants a  bailout? Florida  is  basically  gone. Tourism dead, no money  coming  in.
I'll hold you to that prediction. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Killer Clouds on March 20, 2020, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:04:46 PM
And Trump praised him for  closing  california. this  is an economic disaster that  may rival the great depression. Charles Payne said if you want to see shock and awe, look at  unemployment claims  on thursday. 4-5 million?
Trump did not praise Newsom for closing Kalifornia but even if he did Newsom was the one that decided to close Kalifornia unnecessarily. What don't you understand about that?
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 02:25:49 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:17:06 PM
From listening to his stupid  updates. Limiting  gatherings  of  people to 10 was idiotic. From what  i heard from Nick, owner  of the  once  thriving  crab shack he  can be arrested  if  he tried to open up. there  is  NO reason most  people  shouldnt  be  back working  but  when trump praises new york and  california  for  shutting  down, thats a war  on small business. Big  business will come  back, but  millions  have  lost thier  jobs for  good.
OK Genius! Show me the law Trump signed limiting 10 people, and where he actually closed businesses.
If you're so damn sure Trump is responsible, it should be real easy to prove.

And don't give me any shit, I want actual evidence!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 02:39:48 PM
"If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to", aww screw it, don't go, the entire Bay Area is a Rats nest and the Rats own the city...

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1240787113442004992
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 20, 2020, 02:46:12 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2020, 02:39:48 PM
"If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to", aww screw it, don't go, the entire Bay Area is a Rats nest and the Rats own the city...

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1240787113442004992
What good is quarantining a city if the homeless can go anywhere?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 20, 2020, 02:46:12 PM
What good is quarantining a city if the homeless can go anywhere?
Exactly my point! This whole so called lock down is a complete farce.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on March 20, 2020, 03:18:14 PM
While I haven't finished listening to this in totality - https://bluntforcetruth.com/defeating-the-china-virus-an-interview-with-shiva-ayyaduri-episode-512/  is a pretty interesting take on the Wuhan Virus/Flu.  Chuck Wollery & Mark Young's Podcast.

Shiva Ayyaduri suggests President Trump (libs hate that) is being bamboozled by the FDA, CDC and a Deep State advisor-doctor.

Today, I was called to a construction site, the foreman was clearly SICK.  He said his boss insisted he stay on the job.  Two of the other guys were coughing.   I got the hell outta there as fast as I could, keeping my distance.  The weather was *perfect* light rain in the morning had cleared out the pollen - or I would have been sneezing.
I understand the need to keep production/construction/job work moving, if possible - this, IMO, was stupidity on display.   And, the more government gets involved, the more exaggerated the problem - the more likely the cure will be worse than the actual problem.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 03:37:16 PM
The new currency... :lol:

https://twitter.com/cctvidiots/status/1241025630793170944
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on March 20, 2020, 04:20:05 PM
Here's another doctor saying the SAME thing, how the virus affects the body, as Dr Shiva Ayyaduri was saying.
it is your body's immune overreaction to the virus that floods your lungs & kills ya.

Just thinking... this could be over in a couple of weeks, if this is true - but, I'm not counting on it... not with a lot of money & DC is involved.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2020, 05:02:03 PM
Pence staffer tests positive for coronavirus, becoming first-known case of a White House employee


A staff member in Vice President Mike Pence's office has tested positive for coronavirus, a spokesperson for Pence announced Friday evening, making that individual the first publicly-known positive case of a White House staffer.

"‪This evening we were notified that a member of the Office of the Vice President tested positive for the Coronavirus," Katie Miller, Pence's press secretary, said in a statement. "Neither President Trump nor Vice President Pence had close contact with the individual."

Pence's office did not identify the individual or provide other information about the person or the job they hold. But the Pence spokeswoman said steps are being made to trace others the person has come in contact with.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/a-person-in-pences-office-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-vps-office-announces
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 07:02:45 PM
Directly from Johns hopkins

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?ei=UTF-8&type=avastbcl&hspart=avast&hsimp=yhs-001&p=johns++hopkins++corona++tracker

Death rate continues to drop quickly. This morning  it  was  1.44 percent and now  with  249 deaths and  19285 known cases the death rate  is  now  1.29% and will drop below  1% shortly, and this  is worth causing a depression? Quite frankly  its  falling  faster than i expected.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 20, 2020, 07:05:52 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 05:35:00 AM
They will do it

Im sure they will, after all there are a whole 70 cases of the COVID19  in Virginia vs ....what?....*8 million plus population...not counting your buddies the Illegals.

Leftists never consider the practicallity or feasibiity of their actions they're aren't enough cops or even national guard to enforce any such measure which the moron in Calif is about to find out. I really can't wait until he mobilizes all the desk jockeys, backoffice types the steno pool to go out and enforce his edicts. Let 'em start with Compton or east LA where all the illegal Gang bangers, drug thugs and other scum CONTROL THE STREETS.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 21, 2020, 05:40:31 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 07:02:45 PM
Directly from Johns hopkins

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?ei=UTF-8&type=avastbcl&hspart=avast&hsimp=yhs-001&p=johns++hopkins++corona++tracker

Death rate continues to drop quickly. This morning  it  was  1.44 percent and now  with  249 deaths and  19285 known cases the death rate  is  now  1.29% and will drop below  1% shortly, and this  is worth causing a depression? Quite frankly  its  falling  faster than i expected.
Do you think there is a correlation between the falling death rates and what all is going on that you are complaining about. Here's a look where they did not take this as seriously.


https://pjmedia.com/trending/watch-scenes-from-medieval-europe-burning-the-dead-and-overwhelmed-hospital-staffs/

QuoteWhat's happening in Italy is reminiscent of scenes from medieval Europe. We're seeing a modern society overwhelmed by disease, something we're not likely to see again anytime soon -- if ever.

The morgues in several cities are beyond capacity, and authorities have taken to burning the bodies of victims of COVID-19.


Idub, my gut feeling is if this was to happen here, you would be screaming that Trump did not do enough, thus completing the circle. By the way, Trump can not quarantine, only states can do that, if you want to place blame and panic, fine, but put the blame where it belongs.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2020, 06:01:12 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 21, 2020, 05:40:31 AM
Do you think there is a correlation between the falling death rates and what all is going on that you are complaining about. Here's a look where they did not take this as seriously.


https://pjmedia.com/trending/watch-scenes-from-medieval-europe-burning-the-dead-and-overwhelmed-hospital-staffs/


Idub, my gut feeling is if this was to happen here, you would be screaming that Trump did not do enough, thus completing the circle. By the way, Trump can not quarantine, only states can do that, if you want to place blame and panic, fine, but put the blame where it belongs.
You're Right, he wants to blame Trump for everything. He watches TV news and considers himself informed. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2020, 06:09:15 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:17:06 PM
From listening to his stupid  updates. Limiting  gatherings  of  people to 10 was idiotic. From what  i heard from Nick, owner  of the  once  thriving  crab shack he  can be arrested  if  he tried to open up. there  is  NO reason most  people  shouldnt  be  back working  but  when trump praises new york and  california  for  shutting  down, thats a war  on small business. Big  business will come  back, but  millions  have  lost thier  jobs for  good.

Still waiting for you to back up your bullshit!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 21, 2020, 06:33:18 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 21, 2020, 06:01:12 AM
You're Right, he wants to blame Trump for everything. He watches TV news and considers himself informed. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Typical, I wonder how much credit he gave Trump before all of this?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2020, 07:18:40 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 21, 2020, 06:33:18 AM
Typical, I wonder how much credit he gave Trump before all of this?
He's a lib, he hated the fact that Trump exposed the Marxists for their anti American views, their hatred of capitalism and American culture. So he waited patiently and his media didn't fail him, now they're claiming he's a racist and failure, and he jumped into the herd like the good little sheep he is.

This is soooo going to backfire on the left. Trump's approval numbers continue to climb.

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/IpsosPoll_Coronavirus_Q1_ApproveDisapprove_031920_v01_KS_hpEmbed_16x9_992.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 21, 2020, 11:07:07 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 21, 2020, 05:40:31 AM
Do you think there is a correlation between the falling death rates and what all is going on that you are complaining about. Here's a look where they did not take this as seriously.


https://pjmedia.com/trending/watch-scenes-from-medieval-europe-burning-the-dead-and-overwhelmed-hospital-staffs/


Idub, my gut feeling is if this was to happen here, you would be screaming that Trump did not do enough, thus completing the circle. By the way, Trump can not quarantine, only states can do that, if you want to place blame and panic, fine, but put the blame where it belongs.

Sreaming  he didnt  do enough? He  is  doing  overkill to the  economy. Stopping flights was great, but  that  10 person thing was way over the top
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 21, 2020, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 21, 2020, 07:18:40 AM
He's a lib, he hated the fact that Trump exposed the Marxists for their anti American views, their hatred of capitalism and American culture. So he waited patiently and his media didn't fail him, now they're claiming he's a racist and failure, and he jumped into the herd like the good little sheep he is.

This is soooo going to backfire on the left. Trump's approval numbers continue to climb.

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/IpsosPoll_Coronavirus_Q1_ApproveDisapprove_031920_v01_KS_hpEmbed_16x9_992.jpg)

Thats  just  fine for  now, but  we  havent  had the  pain yet and that  will be FAR worse than the  disease. A 24% contraction in 1 quarter will be devastating. The worst  year  of the depression averaged  -12%. While we  may bounce  back in the  4th quarter, possibly  big, that  wont  be  known till after the  election and the  longer this  war  on restaurants  goes  on the  less the  bounce will be.


On another front, 279/22177=death rate  now  of  1.25%, continuing  to drop.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 21, 2020, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 21, 2020, 07:18:40 AM
He's a lib, he hated the fact that Trump exposed the Marxists for their anti American views, their hatred of capitalism and American culture. So he waited patiently and his media didn't fail him, now they're claiming he's a racist and failure, and he jumped into the herd like the good little sheep he is.

This is soooo going to backfire on the left. Trump's approval numbers continue to climb.

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/IpsosPoll_Coronavirus_Q1_ApproveDisapprove_031920_v01_KS_hpEmbed_16x9_992.jpg)

By the way, if  i were a  lib i would be cheerleading  for  a  national lockdown and  martial law  declared  by  Trump. That would just  be even more reason for  a dem sweep in Nov. I want a  national "open up", now.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2020, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 21, 2020, 11:12:05 AM
Thats  just  fine for  now, but  we  havent  had the  pain yet and that  will be FAR worse than the  disease. A 24% contraction in 1 quarter will be devastating. The worst  year  of the depression averaged  -12%. While we  may bounce  back in the  4th quarter, possibly  big, that  wont  be  known till after the  election and the  longer this  war  on restaurants  goes  on the  less the  bounce will be.


On another front, 279/22177=death rate  now  of  1.25%, continuing  to drop.
You still have yet to respond to Reply #426.
I suggest you either admit you were wrong, or prove you were right. I won't ask again, and no, this not a suggestion, it's a Demand Notice!

Point is, the forum is tired of your shit posting, and outright opinionated lies, claimed as fact. Time to make it right, or you're getting another timeout!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 21, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 21, 2020, 11:07:07 AM
Sreaming  he didnt  do enough? He  is  doing  overkill to the  economy. Stopping flights was great, but  that  10 person thing was way over the top
Want to see real panic, wait until the hospitals start turning away people because there is no room. That is what is going on here, trying to prevent this. Crap man, look at how many professionals world wide are studying this disease, trying to come up with solutions, there are none. That is why they are trying to slow it down. I think closing the restaurants is a little much, but I don't know, and neither do you. In four months this has become world wide, it has not peaked yet. And as stated before, Trump can not quarantine, period. That is left up to the states.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 21, 2020, 11:34:35 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 21, 2020, 11:17:16 AM
You still have yet to respond to Reply #426.
I suggest you either admit you were wrong, or prove you were right. I won't ask again, and no, this not a suggestion, it's a Demand Notice!

Point is, the forum is tired of your shit posting, and outright opinionated lies, claimed as fact. Time to make it right, or you're getting another timeout!

I see he is Robo posting again. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2020, 11:34:58 AM
FDA Approves Coronavirus Test That Can Provide Results In 45 Minutes


The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the use of a coronavirus test that can detect the virus within 45 minutes, the company that makes the tests announced on Saturday.

The FDA approved the test, created by Cepheid, a California-based medical device company, through Emergency Use Authorization, a process the helps circumvent the lengthy approval process for drugs, medical supplies and diagnostic measures.

Cepheid said that its "point-of-care" test is compatible with 23,000 automated systems it has in hospitals around the world. Five thousand of those are in the United States, the company said in a statement.

"We have developed a test that provides reference lab-quality results in multiple settings where actionable treatment information is needed quickly," Dr. David Persing, Chief Medical and Technology Officer at Cepheid, said in the statement.

"Our automated systems do not require users to have specialty training to perform testing — they are capable of running 24/7, with many systems already doing so today." (RELATED: Trump Waives FDA Regulations, Opening Door For Chloroquine To Be Tested As Coronavirus Therapy)

Cepheid said the test will begin shipping out next week.

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a former FDA commissioner who served in the Trump administration, called the approval a "key milestone" in the coronavirus fight.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/21/fda-approves-cepheid-coronavirus-test-45-minutes/
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2020, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 19, 2020, 07:15:41 PM
Good luck with that!!!

All 40 million residents in the state of California have been ordered to stay home to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

The state is one of the worst affected in the US after Washington and New York. There are now 910 coronavirus cases in California, including 19 deaths.

New York has at least 5,298 cases, while Washington has at least 1,376 confirmed cases.

California is the most populous US state and is the country's largest state economy.

Watch:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-19-20-intl-hnk

Walks, feel free to merge this tomorrow after noon.
They have a good -point, the 2nd Amendment!!!


Meanwhile, not everyone was following orders to stay home. In a Northern California county where officials have ordered residents to stay home and non-essential businesses to close because of the coronavirus pandemic, a gun shop is refusing.

Alameda County Sheriff's Sgt. Ray Kelley said Thursday that a gun shop called Solar Tactical remains open, despite the order. He said officers have advised the shop to close.

"We'll start out nice," Kelley said. "Then we'll post a notice to close and then we will take enforcement."

Solar Tactical did not answer phone calls nor immediately respond to messages sent through its website. A message on its Facebook page said the store is now operating on an appointment-only basis and urged customers to call local police to protest the effort to close it.

"Your 2nd Amendment right is no longer considered essential during forced shelter in place," the shop said. "Please share and get the word out. Call your local officials, news stations, and Alameda County Sheriffs office to let them know how you feel about your 2nd Amendment rights being taken away."

Gun sales have spiked as consumers who worried that people are becoming desperate and unpredictable amid the outbreak rushed to buy weapons and ammunition.


https://www.kcra.com/article/coronavirus-covid19-california-sacramento-latest-info/31784967
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 21, 2020, 04:18:47 PM
 https://therightscoop.com/whistleblowers-and-residents-in-wuhan-say-china-is-lying-about-lack-of-new-cases-of-coronavirus/

While the dems keep pushing china's propaganda the disease keeps spreading. Who in their right mind really thought there were no new cases.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 21, 2020, 06:28:23 PM
The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus worldwide has surpassed 300,000, an increase of 50,000 in one day

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETpsOgdX0AAgvF0?format=png&name=small)

Full list...

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/03/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
Title: "It's Alive" Did this mad scientist create the virus in his Lab in WuHan?
Post by: wally on March 22, 2020, 04:26:37 AM


https://www.npr.org/2020/02/14/806128410/harvard-professors-arrest-raises-questions-about-scientific-openness

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

https://nationalfile.com/harvard-chemical-biology-scientist-arrested-for-receiving-over-2m-from-chinese-wuhan-university/

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3051226/us-sets-sights-harvard-professor-and-universities-over-chinese-funding

https://www.wsj.com/articles/harvards-chemistry-chair-charged-on-alleged-undisclosed-ties-to-china-11580228768

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/28/harvard-professor-charles-lieber-accused-lying-work-china/4598181002/


So the Head mucky muck of Harvard's Chem Dept. is paid by the Chinese Communists to set a a research Lab in Wuhan China before the outbreak of this new virus which has caused a worldwide pandemic.   Isn't that interesting!



Title: Re: "It's Alive" Did this mad scientist create the virus in his Lab in WuHan?
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2020, 04:40:01 AM
Wally, do me a favor, post these in the COVID thread.
Thanks...
Title: Re: "It's Alive" Did this mad scientist create the virus in his Lab in WuHan?
Post by: wally on March 22, 2020, 07:04:35 AM
will do....   :cool:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 22, 2020, 07:05:50 AM


https://www.npr.org/2020/02/14/806128410/harvard-professors-arrest-raises-questions-about-scientific-openness

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

https://nationalfile.com/harvard-chemical-biology-scientist-arrested-for-receiving-over-2m-from-chinese-wuhan-university/

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3051226/us-sets-sights-harvard-professor-and-universities-over-chinese-funding

https://www.wsj.com/articles/harvards-chemistry-chair-charged-on-alleged-undisclosed-ties-to-china-11580228768

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/28/harvard-professor-charles-lieber-accused-lying-work-china/4598181002/


So the Head mucky muck of Harvard's Chem Dept. is paid by the Chinese Communists to set a a research Lab in Wuhan China before the outbreak of this new virus which has caused a worldwide pandemic.   Isn't that interesting!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 22, 2020, 07:07:04 AM
November 17: The first case of someone suffering from COVID-19 occurs in Wuhan, according to the South China Morning Post

December 10: Wei Guixian, sold goods in Wuhan's wet market, reportedly started feeling sick on this day. Thankfully, she was released from the hospital in January, The Wall Street Journal reported.

December 27: Zhang Jixian, a doctor at the Hubei Provincial Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, sounds the alarm about a new disease that has already affected 180 patients, the Morning Post reported.

December 26-30: The first evidence of the new virus is revealed through Wuhan patient data, which had been sent to multiple Chinese genomics companies, Caixin Global reported.

Hubei's health commission orders a genomics company to stop testing the new virus and destroy all samples, according to an anonymous source in Caixin Global.

December 31: More than a month after the first incident of COVID-19, Chinese officials alert the World Health Organization (WHO) China Country Office about pneumonia with an unknown cause affecting people in Wuhan, Caixin Global reported.

Chinese Internet authorities started censoring terms relating to the virus on social media, including "Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia," "SARS Variation," "Wuhan Seafood Market," and anything critical of the government's response to the disease, Citizen Lab reported.

January 1: Eight doctors, including Dr. Li Wenliang, are detained and questioned by the Chinese government, who condemn them for "making false statements on the Internet," CNN reported. Li is then forced to write a letter saying his warnings "had a negative impact," the Journal reported.

Caixin Global reported that the Hubei health commission ordered genomics companies to stop testing the virus and destroy samples, confirming its earlier report.

The Wuhan seafood market where the virus allegedly first broke out was finally closed, though it is then "disinfected" without swabbing the individual animal cages or drawing any blood from the workers, meaning the evidence of what may have been the source of the virus was destroyed, the Times reported.

January 3: China's National Health Commission issued a gag order and ordering pneumonia samples moved to designated testing facilities or destroyed. The Commission also orders institutions not to publish any information about the still unknown disease, Caixin Global reported.

January 5: Professor Zhang Yongzhen of the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center provided the genomic sequence of the virus to Chinese authorities. On the same day, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission stopped releasing daily updates on new cases, the Journal reported

January 9: WHO released a statement about the cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan, suggesting the cases pointed to a coronavirus as the possible pathogen causing the issues. The statement also said China ruled out SARS, MERS, influenza, bird flu, and other common pathogens.

January 10: Wang Guangfa, a prominent People's Republic of China government expert, told state broadcaster China Central Television that the pneumonia outbreak was "under control" and downplayed the virus as a "mild condition," the Times reported.

January 11: Because the Chinese government took no action on Yongzhen's genomic sequence, he published the data online to help the world work on testing methods, the Morning Post reported.

January 12: The National Health Commission shared the virus genomic information with the WHO for the first time, Caixin Global reported. On this same day, Youngzhen's lab in Shanghai is closed for "rectification," the Morning Post reported.

January 14: WHO said there may have been human-to-human transmission of the virus, Reuters reported. Also on this day, Chinese police wearing plainclothes start detaining journalists trying to report on the outbreak at Wuhan's Jinyintan Hospital. The journalists are forced to delete any footage taken and hand over their phones and cameras for inspection, Business Insider and the Times reported.

January 15: Li Qun, head of the Chinese Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) emergency center, claims the risk of human-to-human transmission is "low," the Journal reported.

more...  https://www.dailywire.com/news/heres-a-timeline-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak-and-chinas-coverup?utm_source=whatfinger


The Chinese Communists have bought the Trump hating America media as a mouthpiece to spread their vile propaganda.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on March 22, 2020, 07:52:37 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on February 26, 2020, 09:48:22 AM
Simply total unfounded  panic and  i think you  will also observe, and should already  be  observing that very  very  few  people are dying  in any country  other than china. Lots  of  people are dying  of  the  numerous different strains  of  flu however.

Here we are a month later and your post(s) has proven to be prescient.
While the sensationalism and panic about COVED19 is coming to a crescendo, there still has been no real evidence that this virus is deadly enough to shut down economic functions/social functions on a global scale.
My sifting through all the disinformation/drama on this has led me to believe that the elderly should self quarantine, and friends/family should care for them in a safe and appropriate manner. Moreover all those with underlying conditions making them more susceptible to the deadly effects of COVED19 should be encouraged to do likewise.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2020, 07:56:32 AM
Notice how we no longer discuss:

-climate change, green energy
-pederasts grooming children
-preferred pronouns
-which bathroom everyone gets to use
-men can see a gynecologist
-men joining women' sports
-join girls scouts, boy scouts
-BLM, Confederate Memorabilia, Spetchal Rights for Freaks

The list of attacking Freedoms and Liberty for all, while creating victim status for the chosen appears to have come to a screeching halt while the Marxist media attacks Trump.
Oddly enough, almost as if Trump was drawing their ire as a way of bringing back normalcy. The man is a Genius, all the while wearing Gods Armor.

There's only one conclusion, there 'was' a conspiracy created for one purpose, to destroy American Culture.
When this ends soon, the moment the left starts this shit again, people are literally going to scream a collective, STFU!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on March 22, 2020, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 22, 2020, 07:56:32 AM
Notice how we no longer discuss:

-climate change, green energy
-pederasts grooming children
-preferred pronouns
-which bathroom everyone gets to use
-men can see a gynecologist
-men joining women' sports
-join girls scouts, boy scouts
-BLM, Confederate Memorabilia, Spetchal Rights for Freaks.   

The list of attacking Freedoms and Liberty for all, while creating victim status for the chosen appears to have come to a screeching halt while the Marxist media attacks Trump.
Oddly enough, almost as if Trump was drawing their ire as a way of bringing back normalcy. The man is a Genius, all the while wearing Gods Armor.

There's only one conclusion, there 'was' a conspiracy created for one purpose, to destroy American Culture.
When this ends soon, the moment the left starts this shit again, people are literally going to scream a collective, STFU!!!

Wish I had your optimism.
IMO, Trump has so dominated the air-waves with his brand of leadership on the COVED19 pandemic that leftist ideologues (vast media empire) are seething under the surface and will blow like a volcanic eruption -spewing their pent-up hatred - when the first safe opportunity presents itself. As a result the herd mentality on-the-fence voting public that receive their education through news outlets will quickly fall back in line.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 22, 2020, 08:54:56 AM
Quote from: WMK on March 22, 2020, 08:39:52 AM
Wish I had your optimism.
IMO, Trump has so dominated the air-waves with his brand of leadership on the COVED19 pandemic that leftist ideologues (vast media empire) are seething under the surface and will blow like a volcanic eruption -spewing their pent-up hatred - when the first safe opportunity presents itself. As a result the herd mentality on-the-fence voting public that receive their education through news outlets will quickly fall back in line.

I am not see that in the young people that can vote that I talk with.  But then this is farming country and not the big city. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2020, 08:57:56 AM
Quote from: WMK on March 22, 2020, 08:39:52 AM
Wish I had your optimism.
IMO, Trump has so dominated the air-waves with his brand of leadership on the COVED19 pandemic that leftist ideologues (vast media empire) are seething under the surface and will blow like a volcanic eruption -spewing their pent-up hatred - when the first safe opportunity presents itself. As a result the herd mentality on-the-fence voting public that receive their education through news outlets will quickly fall back in line.
Matters not! The base will reelect Trump, even never Trumpers like me, about 30% of the base will not fail this time around.
Add to that, a bloody dead DNC party, whose base bailed on them when they split the vote over Bernie, they've abandoned the party and this so called fence sitter (undecideds) is only a figment of the LSM' imagination.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 22, 2020, 02:19:01 PM
With the tens of thousands of spring breakers ignoring the govt mandates, shouldn't we be seeing massive massive outbreaks among not only the students but the areas they visited on break? We have several areas and representative control groups of very close interaction. I've not seen any data reports on this, which is very odd.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 22, 2020, 02:51:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 21, 2020, 06:28:23 PM
The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus worldwide has surpassed 300,000, an increase of 50,000 in one day

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETpsOgdX0AAgvF0?format=png&name=small)

Full list...

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/03/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

And the  death rate  here  keeps  falling.

399/32644=1.22% And its really under 1% since  the  symptons for  most are so mild they didnt  know they were sick

Lets also put this  into a  bit  of  perspective. Lets  look at this  link for  the  year  2017/18.

Flu season deaths top 80,000 last year, CDC says - CNN
www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017...

"Sep 26, 2018 · The 2017-2018 flu season was one of the deadliest in decades according to the CDC. An estimated 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter"

80,000 compared to 399 corona  deaths so far this  year. Did we cause an economic  collapse because  80,000 died? the  normal flu season is  considered  to be oct-april 7 months or about  30 weeks. that would avg  to 2667 a week compared to 399 since the  1st  corona death was reported here. Lets take the  whole  52 weeks  however. That averages to 1538 deaths a week. Just a  bit  of  perspective.

OH, and since they say during  winter which is  13 weeks the  avg  number  of  deaths that winter would  have  been per week 6154 and again there was  no panic.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 22, 2020, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 21, 2020, 06:28:23 PM
The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus worldwide has surpassed 300,000, an increase of 50,000 in one day

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETpsOgdX0AAgvF0?format=png&name=small)

Full list...

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/03/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Since  the  time  limit  ran out to modify  my last  post  let  me  point  out  1 thing  about  your  chart. Italy has  been locked down for  quite a few days  now but  notice the  news cases? You can not  lock down a  mild  virus  like corona because  like the  common cold  it  spreads rapidly. Ebola or  rabies  is very easy  to contain because the  normal rule  of thumb  is the  more deadly  a  virus the harder  it  is  to get. Italy  is  proving  my point  quite  nicely.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 22, 2020, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 22, 2020, 03:44:42 PM
Since  the  time  limit  ran out to modify  my last  post  let  me  point  out  1 thing  about  your  chart. Italy has  been locked down for  quite a few days  now but  notice the  news cases? You can not  lock down a  mild  virus  like corona because  like the  common cold  it  spreads rapidly. Ebola or  rabies  is very easy  to contain because the  normal rule  of thumb  is the  more deadly  a  virus the harder  it  is  to get. Italy  is  proving  my point  quite nicely.
Italy has 9% who have died. What was your point again?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 22, 2020, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 22, 2020, 03:44:42 PM
Since  the  time  limit  ran out to modify  my last  post  let  me  point  out  1 thing  about  your  chart. Italy has  been locked down for  quite a few days  now but  notice the  news cases? You can not  lock down a  mild  virus  like corona because  like the  common cold  it  spreads rapidly. Ebola or  rabies  is very easy  to contain because the  normal rule  of thumb  is the  more deadly  a  virus the harder  it  is  to get. Italy  is  proving  my point  quite nicely.
Maybe this is what you were referring to?


https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

QuoteIsraeli doctor Gai Peleg, who is currently working to save lives in Parma, Italy, told Channel 12 that things are only getting worse as the number of patients keeps growing. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2020, 04:19:12 PM
Quote from: petep on March 22, 2020, 02:19:01 PM
With the tens of thousands of spring breakers ignoring the govt mandates, shouldn't we be seeing massive massive outbreaks among not only the students but the areas they visited on break? We have several areas and representative control groups of very close interaction. I've not seen any data reports on this, which is very odd.
Incubation time is two to three weeks. Give it time, kids can be foolish.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 22, 2020, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 22, 2020, 04:06:51 PM
Maybe this is what you were referring to?


https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

The  number  of  cases keep growing  because  they are  locked  down
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 22, 2020, 05:54:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 22, 2020, 04:19:12 PM
Incubation time is two to three weeks. Give it time, kids can be foolish.

Here is some  other  interesting  info. Australia, which gets  lots  of  tourism from China and  is  quite  close to China has  1314 cases, 7 deaths  for  a death rate  of  0.53%, quite flu like. The reason is its summer there just  turned to fall. Warmer weather will knock out the  virus  here. Italy  has about  5500 deaths, germany 94. Germany  has a death rate  of  0.32%

One  further point:

(https://external.ftpf1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBXtUiQtn1GhvDt&w=540&h=282&url=https://watchers.news/data/thumbs/796_296/2020/03/gfs-temperature-anomaly-march-25-2020-f.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&fallback=news_d_placeholder_publisher&_nc_hash=AQCM5xrN0355CRo1)

That  map might  be  unfamiliar to many but the  bluer the  color the  more  below  normal temps  have  been. That  map is  up to date and  a few  days  ago Northwest Europe where  germany, england france, ireland, switzerland and so forth  have  even been warmer than that which also correlates quite well to thier  much lower death rates and cases. Sadly, for  Italy  besides thier  population being  10 years  older on avg, and  letting  flights  from china  in, they also have  been suffering  well below  normal temps allowing the  virus  to thrive unlike  NW europe with far  fewer cases and deaths. If  Johns Hopkins had had a flu tracker  in 2017/18 like  it  has a  corona  tracker  now everyone  would  have been jumping  out  of  buildings.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 22, 2020, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 22, 2020, 04:19:12 PM
Incubation time is two to three weeks. Give it time, kids can be foolish.

Yes. My point is if we do not see massive increases in both the areas they traveled to and the areas they returned to, we will all know this was a massive over reaction and massive govt over reach

The economic consequences will be massive and we have the right to understand the justification based on hard data. To date us deaths are a fraction of 1 percent relative to the common flu.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 22, 2020, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: petep on March 22, 2020, 06:26:27 PM
Yes. My point is if we do not see massive increases in both the areas they traveled to and the areas they returned to, we will all know this was a massive over reaction and massive govt over reach

The economic consequences will be massive and we have the right to understand the justification based on hard data. To date us deaths are a fraction of 1 percent relative to the common flu.

There  is absolutely  no question the  "CURE" will be far worse than the disease.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2020, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: petep on March 22, 2020, 06:26:27 PM
Yes. My point is if we do not see massive increases in both the areas they traveled to and the areas they returned to, we will all know this was a massive over reaction and massive govt over reach

The economic consequences will be massive and we have the right to understand the justification based on hard data. To date us deaths are a fraction of 1 percent relative to the common flu.
A couple of points. We have a working drug now, second, this bug is 2.5 times more contagious than the common cold.
But here's the real problem, those that do come down with the pneumonia, they must have ventilators, or the death toll rises.
Problem is, we don't have enough, that's why Trump asked Ford, General Motors, Tesla 'To Go Ahead' and Mass Produce Coronavirus Ventilators.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/22/trump-ford-general-motors-gm-tesla-produce-ventilators-coronavirus/
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2020, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on March 20, 2020, 12:17:06 PM
From listening to his stupid  updates. Limiting  gatherings  of  people to 10 was idiotic. From what  i heard from Nick, owner  of the  once  thriving  crab shack he  can be arrested  if  he tried to open up. there  is  NO reason most  people  shouldnt  be  back working  but  when trump praises new york and  california  for  shutting  down, thats a war  on small business. Big  business will come  back, but  millions  have  lost thier  jobs for  good.
So are you refusing to prove what you stated as fact? Last chance, admit you're wrong, or get a 2 week timeout.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rotwang on March 22, 2020, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 22, 2020, 08:57:56 AM
Matters not! The base will reelect Trump, even never Trumpers like me, about 30% of the base will not fail this time around.
Add to that, a bloody dead DNC party, whose base bailed on them when they split the vote over Bernie, they've abandoned the party and this so called fence sitter (undecideds) is only a figment of the LSM' imagination.

(https://i.imgur.com/2KOkU7a.jpg)
Here's the thing - If you listen to Health Care professionals that want to shut everything down to save lives  - THEY ARE RIGHT.
But that is their focus.
We must, MUST begin to listen to Economicsts.
If we concede to the best wishes of Health Care professionals, we will have a DEPRESSION.
Our National Debt will be forever unpayable. Unemployment thru the roof.
We need to STOP THE HYSTERIA right now.
We need to simply accept some deaths as the price America must pay to survive.
And yes, I am totally prepared to risk the lives of myself and mine to prevent disaster.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 22, 2020, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on March 22, 2020, 07:51:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2KOkU7a.jpg)
Here's the thing - If you listen to Health Care professionals that want to shut everything down to save lives  - THEY ARE RIGHT.
But that is their focus.
We must, MUST begin to listen to Economicsts.
If we concede to the best wishes of Health Care professionals, we will have a DEPRESSION.
Our National Debt will be forever unpayable. Unemployment thru the roof.
We need to STOP THE HYSTERIA right now.
We need to simply accept some deaths as the price America must pay to survive.
And yes, I am totally prepared to risk the lives of myself and mine to prevent disaster.
The real issue is, we just don't know. China continues to lie, WHO covered for China in the early days, and the WHO is run by the very same group pushing Global Warming, the UN.
Personally, I'm not concerned in the least, this will all pass soon after it peaks, but I'm of the belief that we are responsible for ourselves only and those we come in contact with!
I don't care what the govt does, but we're in agreement, shutting down industry does nothing but throw gas on the fire that could easily be extinguished.
Title: Re: BREAKING: California governor orders all 40 million residents to stay at home to
Post by: ldub23 on March 23, 2020, 05:14:21 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 22, 2020, 07:27:48 PM
So are you refusing to prove what you stated as fact? Last chance, admit you're wrong, or get a 2 week timeout.

https://www.srnnews.com/trumps-coronavirus-guidelines-urge-gatherings-not-exceed-10-people-warns-recession-possible/

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Donald Trump issued new guidelines on Monday to help fight the coronavirus, including a recommendation that people avoid social gatherings of more than 10 people, discretionary travel, and going to bars, restaurants and food courts.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2020, 05:18:42 AM
Just thought I'd throw this out to piss off the LSM. They hate the term Chinese Bug, So Let's start calling this cure, the Trump cure. :biggrin:

Chinese Pandemic, Trump Drug To Fight It :

A Florida man diagnosed with coronavirus claims he was saved from certain death by an anti-malarial drug touted as a possible treatment by President Trump.

Rio Giardinieri, 52, told Los Angeles' Fox 11 that he struggled with horrendous back pain, headaches, cough and fatigue for five days after catching COVID-19, possibly at a conference in New York.

Doctors at the Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital in South Florida diagnosed him with the coronavirus and pneumonia and put him on oxygen in the ICU, he told the outlet.

After more than a week, doctors told him there was nothing more they could do and, on Friday evening, Giardinieri said goodbye to his wife and three children.

"I was at the point where I was barely able to speak and breathing was very challenging," Giardinieri said. "I really thought my end was there."

https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florida-man-with-coronavirus-says-drug-touted-by-trump-saved-his-life/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 07:04:30 AM
Based on the death rates compared to the normal flu (less than 1% so far), and the economic devastation the actions will have, I'd call this the hail mary flu...the last ditch effort before the 2020 elections to blame something on trump.

Heck, 90% of the media articles are political in nature...always some blame for the corona virus levied at trump...

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 07:11:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 22, 2020, 04:19:12 PM
Incubation time is two to three weeks. Give it time, kids can be foolish.

I understand that...

but my point stands...miami, cancun, south padre island, panama city beach...we know the top destinations and we know how many people were there...

whether these students should have or should not have gone is irrelevant...they went....so we have a control group for the independent variable to be tested...all those who stayed in, businesses closed etc...and hundreds of thousands who ignored mandates - both the students and all the hotels and businesses that hosted them while on break should show massive, massive outbreaks...at least 15-20x the non breakers population....at least...

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 23, 2020, 07:13:24 AM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 07:04:30 AM
Based on the death rates compared to the normal flu (less than 1% so far), and the economic devastation the actions will have, I'd call this the hail mary flu...the last ditch effort before the 2020 elections to blame something on trump.

Heck, 90% of the media articles are political in nature...always some blame for the corona virus levied at trump...
As long as there are enough hospital beds, the death rate can be kept low. However, if the virus explodes in numbers, there will not be enough, as this is what is happening in Italy, and the death rate will go up.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1257852/Italy-coronavirus-intubating-elderly-pandemic-china-hospitals-Nadine-Dorries


This is what President Trump is trying to avoid.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2020, 08:26:49 AM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 07:11:11 AM
I understand that...

but my point stands...miami, cancun, south padre island, panama city beach...we know the top destinations and we know how many people were there...

whether these students should have or should not have gone is irrelevant...they went....so we have a control group for the independent variable to be tested...all those who stayed in, businesses closed etc...and hundreds of thousands who ignored mandates - both the students and all the hotels and businesses that hosted them while on break should show massive, massive outbreaks...at least 15-20x the non breakers population....at least...
I wouldn't call it a control group because it's not a contained group, many will not come down with symptoms, yet may be contagious as they spread it across the country on their return trip, then wait another 2 to 3 weeks for that outbreak to occur.
This is the problem with youth, they aren't really deep thinkers, they think only of themselves and believe they're invulnerable. Anyway, I'm going off my history as a stupid teen.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 08:58:25 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2020, 08:26:49 AM
I wouldn't call it a control group because it's not a contained group, many will not come down with symptoms, yet may be contagious as they spread it across the country on their return trip, then wait another 2 to 3 weeks for that outbreak to occur.
This is the problem with youth, they aren't really deep thinkers, they think only of themselves and believe they're invulnerable. Anyway, I'm going off my history as a stupid teen.

Certainly the places  all visited are a control group. If the hypothesis behind all the business closing etc is correct, you expect to see major major outbreaks in spring break destinations.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2020, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 08:58:25 AM
Certainly the places  all visited are a control group. If the hypothesis behind all the business closing etc is correct, you expect to see major major outbreaks in spring break destinations.
Yes, but assuming any of them contract it as they gather, they won't be symptomatic for several days, though still contagious, so everyone they come in contact with is susceptible.
Kids from all across the Nation heading back home, the amount of man hours retracing their steps will in itself, take days if not weeks/months.
In the mean time, those people are spreading it as well. Thank God they found what appears to be a cure.

Like I said, this has yet to peak, but I don't see long term damage to the economy, in fact, the optimist in me sees an even bigger boom than we've experienced since Trump took office.
The world is waiting for the US to recover, so we will be leading the recovery.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2020, 10:03:17 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1242120391054757900
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 23, 2020, 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2020, 09:58:47 AM
Yes, but assuming any of them contract it as they gather, they won't be symptomatic for several days, though still contagious, so everyone they come in contact with is susceptible.
Kids from all across the Nation heading back home, the amount of man hours retracing their steps will in itself, take days if not weeks/months.
In the mean time, those people are spreading it as well. Thank God they found what appears to be a cure.

Like I said, this has yet to peak, but I don't see long term damage to the economy, in fact, the optimist in me sees an even bigger boom than we've experienced since Trump took office.
The world is waiting for the US to recover, so we will be leading the recovery.
The nation got the chance to see exactly how the two parties act in times of crisis, looks like a clear choice to me.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2020, 09:58:47 AM
Yes, but assuming any of them contract it as they gather, they won't be symptomatic for several days, though still contagious, so everyone they come in contact with is susceptible.
Kids from all across the Nation heading back home, the amount of man hours retracing their steps will in itself, take days if not weeks/months.
In the mean time, those people are spreading it as well. Thank God they found what appears to be a cure.

Like I said, this has yet to peak, but I don't see long term damage to the economy, in fact, the optimist in me sees an even bigger boom than we've experienced since Trump took office.
The world is waiting for the US to recover, so we will be leading the recovery.

for a minute, lets forget about the students and where they return to...where they visited should show massive increases in the disease...massive....all we should be hearing about over the next 2 weeks is what is happening in miami, cancun, south padre island...remember many were there over the past 1-4 weeks ..

yes, over time we will recover economically...was it worth it...why not shut down every flu season that kills astronomically more...

the scary part is, to me, is this disease has killed less that 1% of the annual flu in the states and look how easy it was for the feds and locals gov't to shut down just about everything, and force people to not gather etc...

if it kills 20% of the annual flu - so at least 20-40x more people die...would it be worth shutting down practically the whole economy?

even if for the best of intentions, it was shown how easy it is for gov't to force businesses to close....that is unsettling...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 23, 2020, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 10:48:04 AM
for a minute, lets forget about the students and where they return to...where they visited should show massive increases in the disease...massive....all we should be hearing about over the next 2 weeks is what is happening in miami, cancun, south padre island...remember many were there over the past 1-4 weeks ..

yes, over time we will recover economically...was it worth it...why not shut down every flu season that kills astronomically more...

the scary part is, to me, is this disease has killed less that 1% of the annual flu in the states and look how easy it was for the feds and locals gov't to shut down just about everything, and force people to not gather etc...

if it kills 20% of the annual flu - so at least 20-40x more people die...would it be worth shutting down practically the whole economy?

even if for the best of intentions, it was shown how easy it is for gov't to force businesses to close....that is unsettling...

Here  is  some  more good  news. The death rate  continues to drop.
Mild  corona  virus death reate  continues  on a steady decline. Last  night  i calculated  it as  1.27% As  of a few  minutes ago from johns  hopkins  its  sunk to 459/40961=1.11%. A rather  large  drop. Its time  to drop the  fearmongering. It will be  below  1% very  soon. I dont think when this  is  over there  will be  much difference  in flu and  corona death rates. Also look at  what  i posted  about  2017/18 where the CDC said 80,000 died  in the states of the  flu in the  winter  months. We  need to get  back to work. As far as your  point about  it  being  unsettling  for  the govt  to be able to force  business to close i wonder  if thats even constitutional.

"yes, over time we will recover economically...was it worth it...why not shut down every flu season that kills astronomically more..."

You make a really  good  point. Not  just the  flu though, but  what  if  someone  somewhere  gets  corona when flu season starts  up again in Oct? Shut  down the  whole  economy  again?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 23, 2020, 10:59:57 AM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 10:48:04 AM
for a minute, lets forget about the students and where they return to...where they visited should show massive increases in the disease...massive....all we should be hearing about over the next 2 weeks is what is happening in miami, cancun, south padre island...remember many were there over the past 1-4 weeks ..

yes, over time we will recover economically...was it worth it...why not shut down every flu season that kills astronomically more...

the scary part is, to me, is this disease has killed less that 1% of the annual flu in the states and look how easy it was for the feds and locals gov't to shut down just about everything, and force people to not gather etc...

if it kills 20% of the annual flu - so at least 20-40x more people die...would it be worth shutting down practically the whole economy?

even if for the best of intentions, it was shown how easy it is for gov't to force businesses to close....that is unsettling...
This virus is listed as far more contagious than the common flu. We do not want to get in the situation Italy is in. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1257852/Italy-coronavirus-intubating-elderly-pandemic-china-hospitals-Nadine-Dorries

Quoteif it kills 20% of the annual flu - so at least 20-40x more people die...would it be worth shutting down practically the whole economy?
Long as we are just making up numbers, what if it kills 100 times more people? If you are going to use numbers show where you are getting them. Keeping people from having to go to the hospital in the first place is the key to a low death rate. Do you really think the whole world is just playing games with this virus??
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on March 23, 2020, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 23, 2020, 10:59:57 AM
This virus is listed as far more contagious than the common flu. We do not want to get in the situation Italy is in. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1257852/Italy-coronavirus-intubating-elderly-pandemic-china-hospitals-Nadine-Dorries
Long as we are just making up numbers, what if it kills 100 times more people? If you are going to use numbers show where you are getting them. Keeping people from having to go to the hospital in the first place is the key to a low death rate. Do you really think the whole world is just playing games with this virus??

Lets  not  make  up numbers. The death rate  has  been on a steady  decline  since  it was first  reported. The  first  numbers  are  in another  post i made and the  initial death rate  in the states was  4.06% As  of a  few  minutes ago its  1.11% and  its really  well below 1% based  on my  previous  post. Its spring, the  virus  is likely going to go   dormant, and this  wont  kill anywhere what  the  flu did  in 2017/18.

Here  is another  comparative  stat
https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/state-by-state

In Virginia there are an average  of  80 motor  vehicle  deaths  a  month. Jan-thru march that  would  be  240.  My  quick calculation based  on my  link shows that there are  9.6 fatalities  per  100000 people  in va  for  motor  vehicle  deaths while there are  0.047 deaths  per  100000 for  corona so far. There are  alot  more things  more deadly  than corona.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2020, 11:17:31 AM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 10:48:04 AM
for a minute, lets forget about the students and where they return to...where they visited should show massive increases in the disease...massive....all we should be hearing about over the next 2 weeks is what is happening in miami, cancun, south padre island...remember many were there over the past 1-4 weeks ..

yes, over time we will recover economically...was it worth it...why not shut down every flu season that kills astronomically more...

the scary part is, to me, is this disease has killed less that 1% of the annual flu in the states and look how easy it was for the feds and locals gov't to shut down just about everything, and force people to not gather etc...

if it kills 20% of the annual flu - so at least 20-40x more people die...would it be worth shutting down practically the whole economy?

even if for the best of intentions, it was shown how easy it is for gov't to force businesses to close....that is unsettling...
What's being overlooked here is, this is not the flu, it is in addition to the flu and COVID is 2.5 times more contagious than the flu.

QuoteThe seasonal flu has a fatality rate of less than 1%. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, estimates that the flu fatality rate is closer to 0.1%. But even accounting for the mild, yet undiagnosed cases of COVID-19, he said last Wednesday, it would still make it "roughly 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu."

Another reason not to compare the two viruses: Influenza has likely been around for more than 2,000 years. "The flu has been with us since the birth of modern medicine," said Adalja. Scientists say the "novel influenza A viruses" in humans lead to a pandemic approximately once every 40 years. But, again, flu vaccines exist.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coronavirus-vs-the-flu-its-just-like-other-viruses-and-we-should-go-about-our-normal-business-right-wrong-heres-why-2020-03-09

Thing is, no one knows and that's why the over the top precautions, we've never been here before. Does this validate killing the economy, an economy that will most assuredly recover?
No one has the answer, but doing nothing isn't the answer either. It may be a needed shock to wake people up to being more aware of their environment, I don't know. But what I do know, is Trump has the greatest minds working on the problem and I have to trust that they know what they're doing.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 11:48:57 AM
There is a great deal of generalized average data. One must drill down into the numbers.

Have you examined the death rates by age group. Business insider published this chart. 80 and over its high, 70 and over about half as high. 60 - 70 far less. By the time you get to 50-60 it's a tiny fraction.

The solutions do not match the problem.

It's a akin to saying America has a gun problem. No, America has some inner city cesspools with a gang problem. Of over 3000 us counties, most all violence happens it tiny zip codes in about 1 percent of the counties.

Defining the problem better helps with the solution

That has not happened.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 12:25:47 PM
here is the source data for my last post...

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-us-coronavirus-deaths-ages-65-older-cdc-report-2020-3

death by age group, and a number of other data points by age group..

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 23, 2020, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 11:48:57 AM
There is a great deal of generalized average data. One must drill down into the numbers.

Have you examined the death rates by age group. Business insider published this chart. 80 and over its high, 70 and over about half as high. 60 - 70 far less. By the time you get to 50-60 it's a tiny fraction.

The solutions do not match the problem.

It's a akin to saying America has a gun problem. No, America has some inner city cesspools with a gang problem. Of over 3000 us counties, most all violence happens it tiny zip codes in about 1 percent of the counties.

Defining the problem better helps with the solution

That has not happened.
A gun problem is not contagious, you do understand that ? Is the gun problem spreading? Can you get a gun problem by contact? Yes, defining the problem can help with the solution, your example is no where near that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 12:36:32 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 23, 2020, 12:31:43 PM
A gun problem is not contagious, you do understand that ? Is the gun problem spreading? Can you get a gun problem by contact? Yes, defining the problem can help with the solution, your example is no where near that.

you understand the analogy is not between the virus and gun violence right???? Not sure how you missed that...re-read my post slowly, the focus in on interpreting data...The analogy is when evaluating data, one must drilled down past overall numbers and averages...

read or listen, and then talk, or write
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 23, 2020, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 12:36:32 PM
you understand the analogy is not between the virus and gun violence right???? Not sure how you missed that...re-read my post slowly, the focus in on interpreting data...The analogy is when evaluating data, one must drilled down past overall numbers and averages...

read or listen, and then talk, or write
Answer the question, is gun violence contagious? The problem with the virus is not just people get sick, its that it spreads quickly, you do see that, right?

read or listen, and then talk, or write 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 23, 2020, 12:43:02 PM
Answer the question, is gun violence contagious? The problem with the virus is not just people get sick, its that it spreads quickly, you do see that, right?

read or listen, and then talk, or write

you are pivoting...

my analogy, as I clearly explained, is not comparing guns and this virus as a danger,,,,the analogy is about interpreting data and my frustration that the solutions do not match the problem...

if you want to start a new thread and ask me if I think a gun will give you a disease, I will say no...does that help...

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 23, 2020, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 12:48:14 PM
you are pivoting...

my analogy, as I clearly explained, is not comparing guns and this virus as a danger,,,,the analogy is about interpreting data and my frustration that the solutions do not match the problem...

if you want to start a new thread and ask me if I think a gun will give you a disease, I will say no...does that help...
there is no comparison,  the solutions for these two problems will be far different requardless of data. You cannot find a solution based off what works for gun violence.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2020, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 11:48:57 AM
There is a great deal of generalized average data. One must drill down into the numbers.

Have you examined the death rates by age group. Business insider published this chart. 80 and over its high, 70 and over about half as high. 60 - 70 far less. By the time you get to 50-60 it's a tiny fraction.

The solutions do not match the problem.

It's a akin to saying America has a gun problem. No, America has some inner city cesspools with a gang problem. Of over 3000 us counties, most all violence happens it tiny zip codes in about 1 percent of the counties.

Defining the problem better helps with the solution

That has not happened.
Check your data again and look at the age group on Spring break.

(https://i.insider.com/5e727eccc4854030e44c2807?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 23, 2020, 02:58:11 PM
spring break - 18-22 age...this grouping is for ages 20-44...

when I see massive, massive spikes in the cities I mentioned, then we will know more...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2020, 03:28:18 PM
Quote from: petep on March 23, 2020, 02:58:11 PM
spring break - 18-22 age...this grouping is for ages 20-44...

when I see massive, massive spikes in the cities I mentioned, then we will know more...
There is a bleed over in those numbers, 19 to 30 but they aren't breaking it down that way. But the real issue isn't who is suffering from it, but the rate of transmission in what age groups groups.
These kids normally don't travel, as compared to working adults, which raises their exposure rate, as well as transmissible issues.


There will most likely be hotspots all over the country, most likely intercity shitholes run by Dims. Just look to Ca as proof. Which raises another quandary, rounding up homeless and cramming them together, much like cruise ship debacle.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 23, 2020, 03:48:40 PM
Just heard, Spain is having to leave patients laying in the hallway, not enough beds.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 23, 2020, 04:24:40 PM
Quote from: Possum on March 23, 2020, 03:48:40 PM
Just heard, Spain is having to leave patients laying in the hallway, not enough beds.
Yep, socialized medicine, to be expected. :glare:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on March 23, 2020, 05:30:04 PM
Quote from: walkstall on March 22, 2020, 08:54:56 AM
I am not see that in the young people that can vote that I talk with.  But then this is farming country and not the big city.

"Farming country" and the "big city" - the former feeds America and the latter bleeds America!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rotwang on March 23, 2020, 07:55:06 PM
Quote from: WMK on March 23, 2020, 05:30:04 PM
"Farming country" and the "big city" - the former feeds America and the latter bleeds America!

CITY = PARASITE
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on March 24, 2020, 12:47:41 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 21, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
Get ready, the WuFlu is about to knock the Dims Impeachment off the front page. Seriously, this thing is spreading fast.


zerohedge
@zerohedge
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Coronavirus patients have been identified in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen, as well as Taiwan, Japan, Thailand and South Korea. And now, the US

Just looking at the date for this first post... January 21.  Wow.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2020, 06:01:44 AM
Quote from: taxed on March 24, 2020, 12:47:41 AM
Just looking at the date for this first post... January 21.  Wow.
Yeah, it's been awhile. I wasn't sure what to believe, I'd been following the story for awhile, and so many lies out of China from the beginning, I wasn't sure it was even real.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 24, 2020, 07:33:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 23, 2020, 03:28:18 PM
There is a bleed over in those numbers, 19 to 30 but they aren't breaking it down that way. But the real issue isn't who is suffering from it, but the rate of transmission in what age groups groups.
These kids normally don't travel, as compared to working adults, which raises their exposure rate, as well as transmissible issues.


There will most likely be hotspots all over the country, most likely intercity shitholes run by Dims. Just look to Ca as proof. Which raises another quandary, rounding up homeless and cramming them together, much like cruise ship debacle.

agree -good points...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rotwang on March 24, 2020, 07:57:58 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2020, 06:01:44 AM
Yeah, it's been awhile. I wasn't sure what to believe, I'd been following the story for awhile, and so many lies out of China from the beginning, I wasn't sure it was even real.

President Trump is in the midst of the greatest deal of his life.

And it's a terrible gamble.

He needs to calm people down enough so as to reopen businesses.

But he must also hope that very few people die, or that he can soothe the popular outrage when they do.

I predict far more in the USA will expire from the Seasonal Flu this year than from COVID-19. Yet people generally ignore the Seasonal Flu deaths.

As they will ignore COVID-19 deaths in every year in the future.

It is a delicate dance. One that the future of our very Republic depends on.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 24, 2020, 09:51:42 AM
I "stole"  this from a friends Facebook page....  This person is a doctor at a hospital in Illinois.  The part apart Trixie is funny and informative.  Toy

So, a viral primer... Have a seat class.  Here is part one of our journey:
Coronaviruses are a family of viruses.  They are spheres of protein that surround the genetic material which is RNA (not DNA like our genetic code).  They are called coronaviruses because the proteins embedded in the envelope on the outside of the virus (called spikes) radiate out from the center like a crown or halo, and the Latin word for that is "corona".  Viruses do not divide like bacteria or fungus.  They have to hijack another organism in order to make more copies and grow / thrive. 
There are dozens of different Coronaviruses, but most don't infect humans.  However, we have known about Coronaviruses since the 1960s.  Members of this viral family have caused illnesses like SARS (similar to our current misbehaving member) and MERS.  For many years, we have tested for 4 different human coronaviruses on our routine respiratory swab at the hospital.  These include Coronavirus 229E, OC43, NL63, and HKU1.  So, if we have known that these viruses have been around for a long time, and we know they infect humans, why is this one so significant?  Well, let's start by talking about terrible people who don't follow the rules and learn about how the virus infects.

Say that Trixie (A U of I spring breaker who is NOT listening to the social distancing recommendations) is in Florida and gets infected by her new bestie from Ohio State.  She returns to her part-time job at the local grocery store.  A number of COVID viruses are living in a microscopic droplet in her nose.  She looks left and right...
(Go ahead Trixie.  No one is looking)
...then picks her nose.  She wipes the evidence on her apron, and goes about her day.
Moments later, you come around the corner, super thrilled because there was ONE package of toilet paper left.  You are WINNING the day!  No more magazine and newspaper pages for you tonight, but you aren't sharing with the rest of the family, and we aren't judging you for that.
Sorry, I digress...
You pay with cash, and Trixie smiles and hands you your change, telling you to have a nice day.  You've always loved that Trixie... so cheery!  What you don't know is that the three George Washingtons you just folded neatly and put in your pocket came with a special surprise:  those viruses hitched a ride, and you aren't even aware that as you rub your eyes (because your allergies have been giving you fits), you have now inoculated yourself with enough COVID to cause infection. 
The little boogers (pun intended) attach to some cells near where you rubbed, and invade, spilling their contents into the cells they invaded.  They then spit their RNA into their new host cell, and they get to work.  They hijack your own cell's machines to make many copies of their own RNA, then copies of their own proteins, then assemble all the parts together into new viruses.  They make so many copies, that the cell can no longer hold the volume of viruses, and the cell bursts, allowing the new viruses to invade the neighboring host cells, and a new infection is born.
So, why don't our bodies stop this?
HOW do they stop it?
Why don't antibiotics work?
How is this different than the other coronaviruses? other kinds of viruses?
Stay tuned!  I'll go over this and more!  Tomorrow's update will continue to help you unravel just what this thing is and what it all means
Until then, my friends stay safe and...
DON'T BE A TRIXIE!  YOU DON'T NEED A NEW BESTIE FROM OHIO STATE!  OH, AND CONTINUE TO PRACTICE GOOD SOCIAL DISTANCING YOU ANIMALS!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 24, 2020, 10:49:12 AM
I am my family are practicing social distancing.

That said, spring break started mid feb. Two most popular destinations in us - Panama City beach - 1 case reported. South padre island - 2 cases reported.

We should watch these areas closely. With the tens of Thousands of people visiting those areas, with all the locals working in the service industry, bars restaurants hotels all close proximity. We should expect to see a massively disproportionate increase amongst the local population, relative to areas that practice social distancing.

Here in my county, extremely low density of people, and all restaurants and bars closed in very rural Maine, we have 4 confirmed cases.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2020, 11:29:55 AM
Quote from: petep on March 24, 2020, 10:49:12 AM
I am my family are practicing social distancing.

That said, spring break started mid feb. Two most popular destinations in us - Panama City beach - 1 case reported. South padre island - 2 cases reported.

We should watch these areas closely. With the tens of Thousands of people visiting those areas, with all the locals working in the service industry, bars restaurants hotels all close proximity. We should expect to see a massively disproportionate increase amongst the local population, relative to areas that practice social distancing.

Here in my county, extremely low density of people, and all restaurants and bars closed in very rural Maine, we have 4 confirmed cases.
I assumed my area was relatively safe, I was wrong. Just talked to my mail lady, she said when the Bay Are libs discovered we had TP and other goods in our stores, they started coming up in droves to buy us out.
She also said one family is self quarantining because they think they caught it. They had no contact with any known source, but aren't taking any chances and testing has yet to come back.
Luckily like most of us, they too live on acreage and can easily self isolate.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 24, 2020, 11:43:33 AM
Part 2 Coronovirus lesson....

You are all doing a great job, and I appreciate the feedback, and your continued interest in learning about the virus causing this.

One issue to consider:
We are being asked to stay home to flatten the curve (and slow the progression).  We are (in most locations) still allowed to go on runs for essentials.  However, make sure you are buying normally, not in bulk and not for hoarding.  My brother-in-law is a buyer for supermarkets.  He sent me a message yesterday to make sure folks know that there is no supply shortage. If we shop normally, the shelves will look normal.  If you go to the store, and shelves look bare, it is because individual consumers have changed their buying habits.  Stores can only receive so much supply on one truck, so they can only stock what they can stock.  If you buy normally, the stores will go back to looking normal with normal supply.  This is just one of the many reasons not to panic.  Panic buying leads to shortages.

Back to class, friends:
So, we left off with HOW the virus is transmitted.
Trixie has done her damage, and now there are viruses replicating inside your own cells without your knowledge... for now.
What are the stages of illness, and the causes of those stages?
Well, I referenced the "incubation period" yesterday.  That is the period of time where you are infected, and virus is replicating inside you, but you aren't showing any symptoms.  It is likely that at some point in this period, you will become contagious, but we aren't totally sure at what point this happens. 
Our current understanding is that this period lasts between 2 and 14 days, with an average of 4 days. 
During the initial, replication stage of infection, our immune system notices.  It does this, because our cells have a process inside of them where if any individual cell detects an invader inside, it will display a "flag" of sorts on the outside of the cell, alerting our immune system.  At this point, there are a number of things that can happen to put a stop to the progression of illness.  However, in an infection that is different enough than infections that have passed through the population in the past, we won't have a way of containing the illness before it becomes a full-blown infection.  The initial steps our immune system takes will become overwhelmed and fail.
During this stage, relatively mild symptoms can occur, and these symptoms are usually due to direct effects of the virus on the cells as well as chemicals released by our immune cells. The symptoms are usually fever, cough (non-productive), and malaise (a fancy way of saying "I feel crappy").  The symptoms are so mild during this stage that patients rarely feel bad enough to seek care.  They will, however, sit at home cursing the name of Trixie.
After this early phase, we start to see more symptoms. This pulmonary phase results in more respiratory symptoms due to invasion and damage of the lung cells that are involved in holding our smallest airways open and mediate exchange of gasses from the air we breathe into the blood that flows through the lungs to collect oxygen.
We also see an increase in the body's immune response resulting in inflammation.  This is when we see patients begin to feel worse and seek care.  They are short of breath, and not able to maintain adequate oxygenation.  If they continue to deteriorate, this is where the paths diverge between those who experience mild or moderate disease who can recover at home and those who require hospitalization.
On average, if a patient is going to develop severe disease, they will get to the point where they are short of breath at 6 days after exposure.  They require admission, on average, at 8 days after exposure and require intubation or ICU admission at about 10 days after exposure.  Remember that these are averages, and can't really predict the clinical course of any one patient who gets sick.
If a patient progresses farther to this severe stage, this is where a storm of immune chemicals causes inflammation and immune response all over the body, even though the amount of virus in the body is falling.  Remember that only a small percentage of folks enter this severe stage of illness, and most make a U-turn in one of the first stages and progress back to recovery. 
I don't teach you about these things to frighten you at all, because my goal is always the opposite.  However, I can't educate you about just PART of what happens.  That wouldn't be very genuine.  Trixie might do that, but not me
The small percentage that progress to severe disease are usually the elderly or the at-risk folks.  We protect them, by learning about this disease, and taking measures to protect them.  We all know someone who is at-risk, and we want to keep them safe!
The photo today is my poor, at-risk Tatiana.  This girl is scared of everything, including Coronavirus, but it's ok.  She prefers to "shelter in place" all the time, naturally social distancing
You're all doing great, and I appreciate all of you!
Keep up the good work, stay tuned, and STOP BUYING IN BULK YOU ANIMALS!
See you tomorrow!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2020, 01:13:13 PM
Tuesday on ABC's "The View," 2020 Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden had a confusing answer when asked about the coronavirus outbreak.

Co-host Sara Haines asked, "We talked about Trump saying the government would reassess the wrecked period for keeping businesses shut and people at home. Are you at all concerned as Trump said that we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself?"

Actual Joe Biden Quote: "We have to take care of the cure. That will make the problem worse, no matter what. No matter what."



https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/03/24/biden-on-coronavirus-we-have-to-take-care-of-the-cure-that-will-make-the-problem-worse-no-matter-what/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 24, 2020, 02:41:04 PM
We know we do not shut down the us economy for the flu season each year - 40,000 deaths annually conservatively. In fact, it's never been a consideration.

We know who shut down business. And we know who stayed open. And we know the areas where tens of thousands visited and partied

This will all be revealed as a very economically damaging but necessary health move. Or the biggest scam of the last two centuries.

We shall see.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rotwang on March 24, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: petep on March 24, 2020, 02:41:04 PM
We know we do not shut down the us economy for the flu season each year - 40,000 deaths annually conservatively. In fact, it's never been a consideration.

We know who shut down business. And we know who stayed open. And we know the areas where tens of thousands visited and partied

This will all be revealed as a very economically damaging but necessary health move. Or the biggest scam of the last two centuries.

We shall see.

I'm going with:

Corona is a major over-reaction designed by the Democrats as a last-ditch effort to harm President Trump
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 24, 2020, 04:21:55 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on March 24, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
I'm going with:

Corona is a major over-reaction designed by the Democrats as a last-ditch effort to harm President Trump
More like. "Never let a good crisis go to waste".
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rotwang on March 24, 2020, 04:33:42 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on March 24, 2020, 11:43:33 AM
Part 2 Coronovirus lesson....

You are all doing a great job, and I appreciate the feedback, and your continued interest in learning about the virus causing this.

One issue to consider:
We are being asked to stay home to flatten the curve (and slow the progression).  We are (in most locations) still allowed to go on runs for essentials.  However, make sure you are buying normally, not in bulk and not for hoarding.  My brother-in-law is a buyer for supermarkets.  He sent me a message yesterday to make sure folks know that there is no supply shortage. If we shop normally, the shelves will look normal.  If you go to the store, and shelves look bare, it is because individual consumers have changed their buying habits.  Stores can only receive so much supply on one truck, so they can only stock what they can stock.  If you buy normally, the stores will go back to looking normal with normal supply.  This is just one of the many reasons not to panic.  Panic buying leads to shortages.

Back to class, friends:
So, we left off with HOW the virus is transmitted.
Trixie has done her damage, and now there are viruses replicating inside your own cells without your knowledge... for now.
What are the stages of illness, and the causes of those stages?
Well, I referenced the "incubation period" yesterday.  That is the period of time where you are infected, and virus is replicating inside you, but you aren't showing any symptoms.  It is likely that at some point in this period, you will become contagious, but we aren't totally sure at what point this happens. 
Our current understanding is that this period lasts between 2 and 14 days, with an average of 4 days. 
During the initial, replication stage of infection, our immune system notices.  It does this, because our cells have a process inside of them where if any individual cell detects an invader inside, it will display a "flag" of sorts on the outside of the cell, alerting our immune system.  At this point, there are a number of things that can happen to put a stop to the progression of illness.  However, in an infection that is different enough than infections that have passed through the population in the past, we won't have a way of containing the illness before it becomes a full-blown infection.  The initial steps our immune system takes will become overwhelmed and fail.
During this stage, relatively mild symptoms can occur, and these symptoms are usually due to direct effects of the virus on the cells as well as chemicals released by our immune cells. The symptoms are usually fever, cough (non-productive), and malaise (a fancy way of saying "I feel crappy").  The symptoms are so mild during this stage that patients rarely feel bad enough to seek care.  They will, however, sit at home cursing the name of Trixie.
After this early phase, we start to see more symptoms. This pulmonary phase results in more respiratory symptoms due to invasion and damage of the lung cells that are involved in holding our smallest airways open and mediate exchange of gasses from the air we breathe into the blood that flows through the lungs to collect oxygen.
We also see an increase in the body's immune response resulting in inflammation.  This is when we see patients begin to feel worse and seek care.  They are short of breath, and not able to maintain adequate oxygenation.  If they continue to deteriorate, this is where the paths diverge between those who experience mild or moderate disease who can recover at home and those who require hospitalization.
On average, if a patient is going to develop severe disease, they will get to the point where they are short of breath at 6 days after exposure.  They require admission, on average, at 8 days after exposure and require intubation or ICU admission at about 10 days after exposure.  Remember that these are averages, and can't really predict the clinical course of any one patient who gets sick.
If a patient progresses farther to this severe stage, this is where a storm of immune chemicals causes inflammation and immune response all over the body, even though the amount of virus in the body is falling.  Remember that only a small percentage of folks enter this severe stage of illness, and most make a U-turn in one of the first stages and progress back to recovery. 
I don't teach you about these things to frighten you at all, because my goal is always the opposite.  However, I can't educate you about just PART of what happens.  That wouldn't be very genuine.  Trixie might do that, but not me
The small percentage that progress to severe disease are usually the elderly or the at-risk folks.  We protect them, by learning about this disease, and taking measures to protect them.  We all know someone who is at-risk, and we want to keep them safe!
The photo today is my poor, at-risk Tatiana.  This girl is scared of everything, including Coronavirus, but it's ok.  She prefers to "shelter in place" all the time, naturally social distancing
You're all doing great, and I appreciate all of you!
Keep up the good work, stay tuned, and STOP BUYING IN BULK YOU ANIMALS!
See you tomorrow!

GREAT POST !

Social Isolation and Quarantines are, in a way, a Science Experiment.

How do we know if it worked ?

Fortunately, we have an Urban Community that has volunteered to ignore all prudent actions, and act as a Control.

WATCH THEM CLOSELY

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/22/paris-no-go-zone-police-overwhelmed-attempting-to-enforce-quarantine/?fbclid=IwAR3DJvkcbnRlz8skYNMkUtlF3ohsuUSLNnSrfonMTeRw9t0e-gYDxV3xzr8 (https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/22/paris-no-go-zone-police-overwhelmed-attempting-to-enforce-quarantine/?fbclid=IwAR3DJvkcbnRlz8skYNMkUtlF3ohsuUSLNnSrfonMTeRw9t0e-gYDxV3xzr8)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 25, 2020, 05:07:26 AM
I'm voting with rotwang and solar on this one....
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on March 25, 2020, 05:23:14 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 24, 2020, 04:21:55 PM
More like. "Never let a good crisis go to waste".

And Trump seized the opportunity!  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2020, 06:30:23 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 25, 2020, 05:23:14 AM
And Trump seized the opportunity!  :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In retrospect, he literally threw water on the Dims fire before they could get started. That's why his poll numbers are at their highest approval point to date.
The man is a damn genius!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 25, 2020, 06:42:31 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2020, 06:30:23 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In retrospect, he literally threw water on the Dims fire before they could get started. That's why his poll numbers are at their highest approval point to date.
The man is a damn genius!!! :thumbsup:
As they say, sit tight you ain't seen nothing yet. Biden is busy having debates with himself and losing, bernie is repeating a message no one is listening to anymore, pelosi has been exposed as the drunken hag she is, (no wonder she tried to pass all that crap, its their last chance). Trump will not have the same road blocks for the next four years.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 25, 2020, 06:47:37 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 25, 2020, 06:42:31 AM
As they say, sit tight you ain't seen nothing yet. Biden is busy having debates with himself and losing, bernie is repeating a message no one is listening to anymore, pelosi has been exposed as the drunken hag she is, (no wonder she tried to pass all that crap, its their last chance). Trump will not have the same road blocks for the next four years.

Trump will always have RINO's, Dem's and the MSM using road blocks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 25, 2020, 06:54:53 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 25, 2020, 06:47:37 AM
Trump will always have RINO's, Dem's and the MSM using road blocks.
True, but I am hoping the next four years will not have coups, impeachments, ect. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2020, 06:55:58 AM
This is all that was said, we'll have to wait for the details.

British 21-year-old with no pre-existing conditions dies from coronavirus - Sun
1 MIN READ

LONDON (Reuters) - A British 21-year-old woman with no pre-existing conditions has died from coronavirus, The Sun newspaper reported.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-victim/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun-idUSKBN21C1XZ
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: petep on March 25, 2020, 09:33:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2020, 06:55:58 AM
This is all that was said, we'll have to wait for the details.

British 21-year-old with no pre-existing conditions dies from coronavirus - Sun
1 MIN READ

LONDON (Reuters) - A British 21-year-old woman with no pre-existing conditions has died from coronavirus, The Sun newspaper reported.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-victim/british-21-year-old-with-no-pre-existing-conditions-dies-from-coronavirus-sun-idUSKBN21C1XZ

I'm never sure how to react to these type stories...

I know three people, under 30, who died last year with no underlying root causes...other than ME's saying there must have been some underlying, undetected problem...the guesses were one heart, two vascular...but no conclusion...just a human body that is expected to run non-stop for 80 years, just decided one day it needed a break, or one  of a million plus complex systems broke...these were people with no sicknesses etc...literally simply dropped dead in the middle of their day...

the death by age group graphs should be examined in triaging this as something to be solved/addressed, moreso than the one off story of a person who died...

otherwise none of us would ever step outside our house for fear of getting in a car accident, and no parent would give their child a bath...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2020, 10:46:02 AM
More Than 700 People Died Overnight In Spain From Coronavirus

A total of 738 people in Spain died from coronavirus-related illnesses in the past 24 hours, the largest increase in fatalities since the disease entered the country.

The number of COVID-19 deaths in Spain soared from 2,696 to 3,434 on Tuesday, according to the country's health ministry. In total, Spain has registered 47,610 people who have tested positive for the virus — up from just 36,673 earlier on Tuesday.

Spain — which has a population of roughly 46 million — touts the second highest tally of coronavirus-related deaths in the world. Italy, which is reporting a death toll of 6,820, has experienced the most deaths so far.

China has registered slightly over 3,280 deaths since Wednesday morning, the third highest in the world, but the Chinese Communist Party has also faced accusations that it is not accurately reporting its total number of deaths or positive cases.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/25/spain-coronavirus-700-deaths/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: murph1953 on March 25, 2020, 11:49:59 AM
March 25, 2020, today

CytoSorb® Used to Treat More than 70 Critically-Ill COVID-19 Patients and Specifically Added to Coronavirus Treatment Guidelines in Italy and Panama

"The initial positive results seen with the use of CytoSorb are very encouraging, particularly reversal of shock, improved lung function, and weaning from mechanical ventilation..

".. reduce the length of stay in the ICU (freeing up critically needed beds)

"..within the past week, we have received many unsolicited requests for emergency use from hospitals all over the country and are in discussions with the FDA on how to streamline this process, enable access of the CytoSorb technology to as many U.S. hospitals in the least burdensome way possible..

"..we continue to update BARDA and the U.S. Joint COVID-19 Task Force with our progress.

"our manufacturing facility is currently running 24 hours a day, seven days a week...we are not affected by the current New Jersey lock-down restrictions.

"CytoSorb is approved in the European Union and distributed in 58 countries around the world. 

https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/1096384/CytoSorbents_Working_To_Save_Lives_Logo.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 25, 2020, 12:06:20 PM
Quote from: murph1953 on March 25, 2020, 11:49:59 AM
March 25, 2020, today

CytoSorb® Used to Treat More than 70 Critically-Ill COVID-19 Patients and Specifically Added to Coronavirus Treatment Guidelines in Italy and Panama

"The initial positive results seen with the use of CytoSorb are very encouraging, particularly reversal of shock, improved lung function, and weaning from mechanical ventilation..

".. reduce the length of stay in the ICU (freeing up critically needed beds)

"..within the past week, we have received many unsolicited requests for emergency use from hospitals all over the country and are in discussions with the FDA on how to streamline this process, enable access of the CytoSorb technology to as many U.S. hospitals in the least burdensome way possible..

"..we continue to update BARDA and the U.S. Joint COVID-19 Task Force with our progress.

"our manufacturing facility is currently running 24 hours a day, seven days a week...we are not affected by the current New Jersey lock-down restrictions.

"CytoSorb is approved in the European Union and distributed in 58 countries around the world. 

https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/1096384/CytoSorbents_Working_To_Save_Lives_Logo.html
We get it, you have an vested interest in the product, and though it may be helpful in many ways, it is in no way a cure, at best, it buys the patient time.
If it was as wonderful as is being touted in your link, why did so many die in Italy and Spain, both sharing HQ for the corporation?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 25, 2020, 02:08:26 PM
Part 3 - I think....  really liking his explanations.  Toy

Dr. Brent Reifsteck

The biggest reason I agree to talk to these folks whenever I am invited is the same reason I started posting in the first place:
Panic comes from fear.
Fear comes from lack of information or wrong information.
We are being fed too much wrong information from too many folks.  I do not want any of you to feel fearful, and I don't want you to panic.  We fight fear with information.
We fight Trixie with hand sanitizer.
We don't fight Coco.  She just thinks we are playing with her, and then she bites us. 
Alright, Today's numbers:
World total: 415,876 (up 43,313)
World deaths: 18,574 (rate = 4.47%)
USA total: 53,368 (up 11,304)
USA deaths: 698 (rate = 1.31%)
IL total: 1,535 (up 250)
IL deaths: 16 (rate = 1%)
You've done a good job hanging in there, class.  I don't know if you have noticed, but I'm long-winded. 
(I just heard a GASP and a sarcastic "You Don't SAAAYY!!!" with an eye roll.  You get detention)
Anyway, we have talked a LOT about this Coronavirus.
We talked about how it's a single-stranded RNA virus with a protein envelope with spikes sticking out (making it look like a crown or "corona")
We talked about how it invades our cells, replicates, and causes infection.
We talked about how the immune system fights it off, and how much more difficult that is when a large, sudden genetic change happens (Genetic Shift) instead of a slow change over time (Genetic Drift).
We talked about how this large change can happen when a virus we KNOW infects another species of animal (like a pig, bat, or pangolin) then moves back into a human. This makes the virus look, to our bodies, like an entirely new (or "novel") virus.
We talked about testing & treatment yesterday.
So, what happens next?
Well, a pretty large statistical paper was published about a week ago telling us just who was at highest risk.
Based on the 53,000 patients in the 30 studies that were included in the statistics, here are some details:
Mean age was 49.8 years & 55.5% of the patients were male.
20.2% of folks developed Severe disease (which means that 79.8% of patients were diagnosed, and only had mild to moderate symptoms).
Mortality rate in this analysis was 3.1% which means that in the population of 53,000 patients with Coronavirus in the 30 studies that they combined into this analysis, only 3.1% of them died.  Flip that to survivors:  96.9% survived.
I share this to give you hope.  We will get through this.
Who is most likely to develop severe disease?
If you are MALE, you are 1.35 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you are 50 or older, you are 2.61 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you are 60 or older, you are 9.45 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you are a SMOKER, you are 1.7 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have Chronic Kidney Disease, you are 6 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have COPD, you are 5.3 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have High Blood Pressure, you are 4.5 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have cardiovascular disease, you are 6.75 times more likely to develop severe disease.
If you have DIABETES, you are 4.4 times more likely to develop severe disease.
Do any of the above categories apply to you? 
Even though we know that most folks don't progress, and we know that most recover, please do not be a statistic.
Physical distancing "flattens the curve" with the goal of avoiding overwhelming medical resources.
It also protects you individually.
If the above does NOT apply to you... I bet you know and maybe even LOVE someone that fits in one or more categories putting them at higher risk.  You adhere to physical distancing for THEM, and for all of us.
You notice that I am using the term "physical distancing" instead of "social distancing." I thank Marcie Crowley for pointing out that my friends in the Psychology / Psychiatry fields are very concerned for our mental and emotional well-being during this time, and I totally agree!  Some folks, when they think of distancing socially, they cut themselves off totally, and become isolated.  This illustrates two points:
1. We have to stay connected.  You DESERVE to stay connected!  Connections enhance us.  We have so many more ways to stay connected in our modern world, so use them!
2. This time is different than most anything we have experienced in our lives, and has the potential to be scary.  How much more scary is it if you also feel alone?
So, distance physically to stay safe.  Connect socially to stay well.
Two final questions:  When will this end? & Can I catch it again?
Well, the endpoint of this stage is really hard to see from here.  It will depend on numbers here and numbers elsewhere as well as the severity of disease being experienced by patients everywhere.  Epidemiologists will help us use the numbers we are seeing and interpret them properly to make good decisions.  I could predict right now, and I would likely be wrong.  So, it's better to wait and see, which is not a super satisfying answer, and I understand that.
Patience my friends... every day gets us a little closer, as long as we are all doing our parts.
As far as catching it again, this is also a "we aren't sure yet" answer.  Like we discussed before, usually our immune system develops antibodies to protect us from ever getting an infection again.  However, if that infection mutates into something the looks different, you may not be immune any longer.  The good news is that even if the organism mutates, we still have SOME protection, and the next one isn't as bad. So, we hope for "never again" but might have to settle for "not as bad this time around". 
That's enough for today friends.  I leave you with the attached picture and a big "thank you" to Christi Horein Kearns and the Elle Project for her generosity and general awesomeness.  She made this mask for me, and plenty of other masks for others.  You are a selfless and generous person, and I appreciate you!
I appreciate ALL of you friends!  See you tomorrow!

(https://scontent.fden3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/91060224_10112599992306230_4370356268536168448_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=YP1NOBilPxUAX8pz4d0&_nc_ht=scontent.fden3-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=82b7f08c65df1fcd34c60faf92955f4e&oe=5EA0D60B)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2020, 12:41:22 PM
https://twitter.com/MacaesBruno/status/1243134029928554496
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2020, 01:02:51 PM
Chicken Little Admits He was Wrong...

Neil Ferguson, Doctor Behind Coronavirus Doomsday Imperial College Study, Revises Predictions

The doctor behind a U.K. college study that painted a doomsday scenario over the coronavirus pandemic now says he holds a more optimistic view about the spread in the U.K.

Renowned epidemiologist Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College suggested in his model last week the U.S. and the U.K. would have to continue to shut down for 18 months to avoid catastrophic death, but testified in front of the U.K's Parliamentary select committee on science and technology earlier this week that he expects the country to be able to flatten the curve within 2-3 weeks. The Imperial College predicted that over 500,000 people could die in the U.K., and over two million could die in the U.S., but Ferguson said he now expects the death toll in Britain to be under 20,000, according to NewScientist.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/26/neil-ferguson-coronavirus-imperial-college-doomsday/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2020, 01:11:38 PM
It ain't over yet...
But then again, with an 80% failure rate on test kits? :rolleyes:

Wuhan Doctors: Up to 10% of 'Recovered' Chinese Coronavirus Patients Testing Positive

Up to ten percent of patients who were told they had recovered from the Chinese coronavirus tested positive again after being discharged from hospital, doctors in Wuhan, the origin city of the pandemic, revealed this week.

Researchers around the world are currently scrambling to establish if, once an individual has recovered from the coronavirus, they can still infect others with the disease and if they have developed antibodies that make them immune from further symptoms.

Doctors from the Tongji hospital in Wuhan, where the outbreak began, told the state propaganda network CCTV that despite some patients testing positive again having made a full recovery, there is so far no evidence that they remain infectious.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/26/wuhan-doctors-up-to-10-of-recovered-chinese-coronavirus-patients-testing-positive/ via @BreitbartNews
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 26, 2020, 07:56:01 PM
One of the good guys.

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1241694445889716224
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2020, 06:10:20 AM
British Prime Minister Johnson tests positive for virus


LONDON (AP) — British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has tested positive for the new coronavirus, the first leader of a major nation to contract COVID-19, but he insisted Friday that he remains in charge of the U.K.'s response to the outbreak.

Johnson, 55, said he was tested Thursday on the advice of the chief medical officer after showing "mild symptoms, of a temperature and a persistent cough.

"I've taken a test, that's come out positive so I am working from home, I am self-isolating, and that's entirely the right thing to do," he said in a video message posted on his Twitter account.

"But be in no doubt that I can continue, thanks to the wizardry of modern technology, to communicate with all my top team to lead the national fightback against coronavirus."

https://apnews.com/f5ab118e48bafb8f8919e332e0ac0114
Title: The Spread Of COVID-19
Post by: Bronx on March 27, 2020, 06:10:28 AM
After watching this short video (1.15) ask yourself what's more troubling.....the virus itself or the amount of info your phone gives off............... :scared:





https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1243281598037913600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1243281598037913600&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fhealth%2Fstunning-visualization-reveals-where-spring-break-covidiots-traveled-after-flooding-florida
Title: Re: The Spread Of COVID-19
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2020, 06:35:59 AM
You wanna post this in the covid thread?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 27, 2020, 08:17:29 AM
'New York Times' Lies about Facts about Trump and Ventilators

The New York Times has been caught lying about what the Society of Critical Care Medicine has said about the number of ventilators available during this coronavirus scare.

On Wednesday, New York Times correspondent Trip Gabriel tweeted out the paper's fake news. Gabriel wrote, "There are at most 200k ventilators in the US. One million are expected to be needed. Experts say the Trump administration approach – let states fend for themselves in the market rather than a central authority step in – will doom people to die."

The tweet referred to the paper's story that day entitled, "Amid Desperate Need for Ventilators, Calls Grow for Federal Intervention."

But as former Times reporter Alex Berenson noted, the Times simply lied about what the SCCM said.

Berenson jumped to Twitter with a trenchant thread to show how the paper outright lied.


Alex Berenson

@AlexBerenson
· Mar 25, 2020
1/ "There are at most 200K ventilators in the US. One million are expected to be needed." This horrifying news comes from my old employer @nytimes; it's sourced to the Society of Critical Care Medicine.

Only the SCCM didn't say that. At all. Let's see what it did say... https://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1242979481524076544 ...

Trip Gabriel
@tripgabriel
There are at most 200k ventilators in the US.  One million are expected to be needed. Experts say the Trump administration approach - let states fend for themselves in the market rather than a central authority step in - will doom people to die.   https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/health/ventilators-coronavirus.html?referringSource=articleShare ...

nytimes.com/2020/03/25/health/ventilators-coronavirus.html?referringSource=articleShare ...


Alex Berenson

@AlexBerenson
2/ The number comes from a March 19 SCCM paper:

"[One estimate is that 1/2 of] ICU admissions (960,000) would require ventilatory support. Such projections are gross estimates."

More importantly: this is everyone who may need ventilation OVER THE COURSE OF THE EPIDEMIC...

470
9:29 PM - Mar 25, 2020


Alex Berenson

@AlexBerenson
· Mar 25, 2020
Replying to @AlexBerenson
3/ In fact, the paper states explicitly "that U.S. hospitals could absorb a maximum of 26,000 to 56,000 additional ventilators at the peak of a national pandemic, as safe use of ventilators requires trained personnel."


Alex Berenson

@AlexBerenson
4/ In other words, whatever happens with COVID, if we built a million new ventilators, 950,000 would be furniture.

Added bonus: the paper reports the US already has far more critical care beds per-capita than other nations: 35 per 100,000, compared to 12 in Italy, 7 in the UK...

more... https://thewashingtonsentinel.com/new-york-times-lies-about-facts-about-trump-and-ventilators/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 27, 2020, 08:32:58 AM
Kathy Griffin Blames Trump From Hospital Bed But Her Photo Has Some Questioning Her Story

Kathy Griffin blames Donald Trump for her not being tested for coronavirus. But the picture the actress tweeted of herself have some questioning her story.

Hollywood D-list actress Kathy Griffin is in the hospital for what she believes may be coronavirus. She's mad as hell about it and there are two people she wants to blame: Donald Trump and Mike Pence.

Kathy Griffin's Attacks On President Trump
59-year-old Griffin has a history of attacking President Trump. It wasn't that long ago that her career was left in crumbles after she publicly posted a mock beheading of our Commander-in-Chief.

Even people on the far left felt she had gone out of bounds. Griffin lost many gigs, and her career still hasn't recovered even after she apologized for the 2017 publicity stunt gone horribly wrong. Still, her attacks continue and this latest one leaves more questions than answers about her story.

President Trump tweeted how the United States has tested more people for coronavirus than South Korea did over the course of eight weeks. Almost a half a million Americans have been tested for coronavirus so far.

Well, Trump's tweet set Griffin off. The actress claimed she was in the hospital with "unbearably painful symptoms" but could not be tested.

"He's lying," Griffin tweeted. "I was sent to the #COVID19 isolation ward room in a major hospital ER from a separate urgent care facility after showing UNBEARABLY PAINFUL symptoms. The hospital couldn't test me for #coronavirus because of CDC (Pence task force) restrictions. #TESTTESTTEST"

Stat Check
However, some people are challenging that accusation given the data and the picture that Griffin herself shared.

According to the COVID Tracking Project, 418,810 people had been tested in the US as of yesterday. Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported they had tested  357,896 as of Wednesday.

So the US had administered more tests of March 25th, but it also has a larger population than South Korea. The official numbers don't lie.

There are still reports of people not being tested because tests aren't yet available in mass quantities.

Since 80% of those infected are able to recover from home, tests are being rationed to people who are high risk. This also helps relieve soon-to-be overburdened hospitals from having to test the masses.

Do You See It?


Griffin's picture shows that she is wearing a mask and is not receiving oxygen. Hospitals are testing people they feel need a test due to their high risk status or having extreme symptoms.

Would "unbearably painful symptoms" from coronavirus cause Kathy Griffin to need oxygen? If so, there's a problem with her photo, as Alicia points out in her tweet below.
https://www.themix.net/2020/03/kathy-griffin-coronavirus/?utm_source=whatfinger

She's obviously just a Trump derange media whore...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2020, 09:51:13 AM
Criticism of Chinese influence on the World Health Organization (WHO) fuels demands for the director general to resign.

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1243577608652144640
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 27, 2020, 05:20:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KPbJ0-DxTc&fbclid=IwAR1Rysuy9QfQPHSOs5Fk73Y5ooL5f6AZm3vJuMNDzwPHzfM6ZuVN2ZJFrDo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KPbJ0-DxTc&fbclid=IwAR1Rysuy9QfQPHSOs5Fk73Y5ooL5f6AZm3vJuMNDzwPHzfM6ZuVN2ZJFrDo)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2020, 09:40:01 AM
Need more proof that WHO is just another arm of the CCP? Well, watch this. The guy refuses to recognize that Taiwan is a free and independent state, then when asked if he heard her, he said, no, I didn't hear the question, so she say's I'll repeat and he say's that's OK, let's move on. Yeah, he heard it the first time...

Point is, WHO is in bed with Commie Chinese Party and are doing their bidding, that's why WHO screwed the world over the virus they claimed was under control, hen they knew it was already out of control.
Keep in mind, WHO is an arm of the UN, the same group trying to kill Western capitalism via global warming lies.


https://twitter.com/HKWORLDCITY/status/1243865641448169474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1243865641448169474&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2020%2F03%2F28%2Ftaiwan-china-who-coronavirus%2F
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2020, 01:45:22 PM
his is the California age range for coronavirus patients:

Age 0-17: 45 cases
Age 18-49: 1,906 cases
Age 50-64: 967 cases
Age 65 and older: 847 cases
Unknown: 36 cases

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/25-year-old-california-man-no-underlying-conditions-dies-covid-19
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 28, 2020, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2020, 09:40:01 AM
Need more proof that WHO is just another arm of the CCP? Well, watch this. The guy refuses to recognize that Taiwan is a free and independent state, then when asked if he heard her, he said, no, I didn't hear the question, so she say's I'll repeat and he say's that's OK, let's move on. Yeah, he heard it the first time...

Point is, WHO is in bed with Commie Chinese Party and are doing their bidding, that's why WHO screwed the world over the virus they claimed was under control, hen they knew it was already out of control.
Keep in mind, WHO is an arm of the UN, the same group trying to kill Western capitalism via global warming lies.


https://twitter.com/HKWORLDCITY/status/1243865641448169474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1243865641448169474&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2020%2F03%2F28%2Ftaiwan-china-who-coronavirus%2F


China must be held accountable by the entire world.

(https://i.imgur.com/WiDYvkG.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2020, 03:21:30 PM
Nice.....

https://twitter.com/cctvidiots/status/1244007065271468032
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 29, 2020, 05:29:12 AM
WHO gets their marching orders from the UN, I know that for a fact working around both in E. Timor There are some good people in WHO but the idiots running the circus are political hacks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2020, 05:37:14 AM
China Lied, People Died...


China's own public numbers on coronavirus deaths and infections have long been treated with suspicion. Wuhan, where the virus first broke out, reported 2,500 deaths, but over the course of two days during the crisis, just one of the city's eight mortuaries received shipments of 5,000 urns to carry ashes of the deceased, according to Shanghaiist.

The mortuary plans to release urns at a rate of 500 per day until April 4. If the city's seven other mortuaries are adopting the same policy, that would total 40,000 urns, starting with the first confirmed delivery on March 26.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/28/china-coronavirus-aid-defective/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on March 29, 2020, 06:30:23 AM
So, it turns out that Italy had more than 100,000 guest workers from China (Coolie Laborers?) in factories in Italy making Italian designer clothes with almost daily flights to Wuhan.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2020, 07:08:23 AM
Quote from: wally on March 29, 2020, 06:30:23 AM
So, it turns out that Italy had more than 100,000 guest workers from China (Coolie Laborers?) in factories in Italy making Italian designer clothes with almost daily flights to Wuhan.
But they weren't made in China. There is sooo much wrong in soooo many ways here....

This is no different in the La garment district in SoCal, where slave labor and human trafficking is an everyday common day occurrence.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 29, 2020, 07:10:07 AM
Video of the throngs of people being tested in the "war zone" of NYC...

https://www.facebook.com/ToddStarnesFNC/videos/2465228077063594
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 29, 2020, 09:05:12 AM
Once again I cite demographics.... WHO is contracting this disease I want to know? NYC has a HUGE Chinese population many smuggled into the US illegally, lets face it, they are slave labor, sometimes kept under guard by the criminal gangs i "chinatown" that "own" them (Triads or tongs), they aren't going to let these people out of their sight and if they die they are going in a garbage disposal or a meat grider somewhere for the all you can eat buffet.

Notice the lying media doesn't say a thing about who is getting treated or who is dying and they wont, they are keeping that a secret
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2020, 11:49:37 AM
https://twitter.com/eileenguo/status/1244296947705364480
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2020, 05:46:01 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
CNN Has the Audacity to call OANN a propagandist "fringe outlet."

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1244421231702654976
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2020, 08:15:27 AM
Proof the CCP knew the virus never started in the wet market?

Chinese Markets Reopen — And They Still Sell Bats, Dogs And Cats

Live animals are still for sale in Chinese food markets that reopened after the country recently declared victory over coronavirus.

Cages full of cats and dogs waiting for slaughter and the unsanitary preparation of animals is again reportedly a common sight in Chinese food markets, often called wet-markets, according to in-country correspondents with the Daily Mail.

China ordered that its wet-markets be shut down in January, after facts emerged suggesting that coronavirus was first transmitted to humans via bats and other live animals sold in the often filthy places of commerce, according to Business Insider. However, now that China says it's beaten the virus, the markets seem to have resumed business as usual.

"The markets have gone back to operating in exactly the same way as they did before coronavirus," said a Daily Mail correspondent who observed the markets re-opening Dongguan. "The only difference is that security guards try to stop anyone taking pictures which would never have happened before."

Another correspondent in Guilin, a city in southwest China, photographed a sign advertising bats, snakes, spiders, lizards and scorpions for sale as remedies for common illnesses. (RELATED: Scientists Warned That Bats And Chinese Wet Markets Could Foster The Next Pandemic — In 2013)

Images have also begun to circulate on social media of traditional Chinese foods considered odd by Western standards for sale in the newly reopened wet markets. CNBC host Jim Cramer tweeted out a video of live scorpions for sale.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/29/chinese-markets-reopen-bats-dogs-cats/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rotwang on March 30, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Who has seen this ?

(https://i.imgur.com/CcjotQT.jpg)

Pretty scary, huh ?

So where did it originate ?

CDC ?

Nope.

Can someone spread the virus without being sick?
People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.


All from the CDC (not Karen)

https://www.cdc.gov/.../prevent.../how-covid-spreads.html (http://'https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html?fbclid=IwAR19_svvDm-CUyxrDRaJiKOhQC0q6_HXGsH4LBH4CucRs0CxAjc1ukXeC4w')

So, mebe the WHO ?

Coronavirus (http://'https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019?fbclid=IwAR0qmLbNyS5dw2OJosv99Ej4PAgnj3j8fugIUK8Sf3NUdV9WEgJ2HJq5XB8')

Nope.

So where does "Karen" live ?

Turns out "Karen" is a JOKE, created as such, published on a Web Site dedicated to Cartoons:

[PLAIN]CORONAVIRUS EXPLAINED Karen got infected yesterday, but she won't know until 14 days later. Karen thinks she's healthy and is infecting 10 persons per day. These 10 persons think they are ok, they travel, go out and infect 100 persons. These 100 persons think they are healthy and keep infecting 1000 persons. No one knows who is ok or who can infect Do you understand why is important to stay at home? Be responsible. Stay in quarantine. - iFunny :)[/PLAIN] (http://'https://ifunny.co/picture/coronavirus-explained-karen-got-infected-yesterday-but-she-won-t-8b87NkdW7?gallery=tag&query=got&fbclid=IwAR0sa26VsSXI8a9hDud6230O48jlY5YiROiE7kzCcj8NThhfjVWWszKIkoY')
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 31, 2020, 06:41:05 AM
Dutch Doctors Ask Eldery to Choose: Ventilation or Let Virus 'Run Its Course'

Dutch doctors are asking their older patients to choose between either long-term ventilation or letting nature take its course if they become infected with the Chinese coronavirus.

Family doctors in the Netherlands are asking all citizens who have passed a certain age to put in writing whether they'd like to be put on a ventilator or not if they become infected, according to a report by Il Giornale — which characterised the latter option as a form of "euthanasia".

The reason for the calls is that Dutch hospitals are beginning to experience crowding, with the Netherlands having garnered 10,866 confirmed cases and 771 deaths as of Sunday.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/30/dutch-doctors-ask-eldery-to-choose-ventilation-or-let-virus-run-its-course/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 31, 2020, 07:52:44 AM
My take away here is, the media wants to hurt Trump, and the other part, is NY is milking it for our Tax Dollars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqDGJLbsWWA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 31, 2020, 08:58:34 AM
Fredo Tests Positive COVID
He is the one in the same, Right? :laugh:

CNN Anchor Chris Cuomo announces that he has tested positive for coronavirus.

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1245015173963931651
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 31, 2020, 02:04:06 PM
(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s600x600/91347096_10217322491596186_1269384241532108800_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=c4CmvksfILQAX8HJAYT&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=186105fb454ca142bb0e156d553bd568&oe=5EA7A810)
(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s600x600/91612326_10217322490996171_5085834379087839232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=9kPa0BDypvUAX-VrrkA&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=6eb2e3c1de5948ca97744cfad3cb8f68&oe=5EA85E9A)

Went to Costco this morning for the early hour for seniors.  The line went from the front doubled back on itself, down the side to the back which was doubled back on itself.  I got there 10 minutes before opening (8:00 am) and it was already all they way around the back. It took 45 minutes to get inside to shop.  When I left the line was still wrapped around to the back of the store.  Toy

Just shows old people get up early.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 31, 2020, 03:22:59 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on March 31, 2020, 02:04:06 PM
(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s600x600/91347096_10217322491596186_1269384241532108800_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=c4CmvksfILQAX8HJAYT&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=186105fb454ca142bb0e156d553bd568&oe=5EA7A810)
(https://scontent.fiad1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s600x600/91612326_10217322490996171_5085834379087839232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=9kPa0BDypvUAX-VrrkA&_nc_ht=scontent.fiad1-1.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=6eb2e3c1de5948ca97744cfad3cb8f68&oe=5EA85E9A)

Went to Costco this morning for the early hour for seniors.  The line went from the front doubled back on itself, down the side to the back which was doubled back on itself.  I got there 10 minutes before opening (8:00 am) and it was already all they way around the back. It took 45 minutes to get inside to shop.  When I left the line was still wrapped around to the back of the store.  Toy

Just shows old people get up early.


Wow!!! you have a seniors hour.    Our Costco open at 10: A.M. and it a free for all.  Store that open at 7:A.M. that had 5 or 6 people in at that time now have 25 to 50 people going in at that time.  Most of them are looking for the same thing, and they keep telling them only one you can ONLY HAVE ONE.   :lol:

I did run into my pharmacist that told me how to make my own hand sanitizer and also save money.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 31, 2020, 03:40:42 PM
It's  start! :rolleyes:

Chinese Government Finally Acknowledges Underreporting Coronavirus Cases

A top Chinese health official said Wednesday that the government will begin counting coronavirus patients without symptoms in its official tally of cases of the virus, in what is a tacit acknowledgement that Beijing has underreported data on the pandemic.

China's National Health Commission disclosed that the government is monitoring 1,541 people who have tested positive for coronavirus but have no symptoms.

Chang Jile, the head of the health agency, said at a press conference in Wuhan that the government will start reporting asymptomatic patient numbers Wednesday.

"From April 1, we will publish reports, outcomes and management of asymptomatic people in daily epidemic notifications, and respond to social concerns in a timely manner," Jile said, according to CCTV.

Jile's statement is the first time that the government has officially acknowledged that it has undercounted patients.

China's official tally has hovered just above 80,000 cases for several weeks, while countries around the globe have seen their case numbers explode. The United States had reported more than 160,000 positive cases as of Tuesday.


https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/31/chinese-government-underreporting-coronavirus/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rotwang on March 31, 2020, 07:11:24 PM
Quote from: walkstall on March 31, 2020, 03:22:59 PM

Wow!!! you have a seniors hour.    Our Costco open at 10: A.M. and it a free for all.  Store that open at 7:A.M. that had 5 or 6 people in at that time now have 25 to 50 people going in at that time.  Most of them are looking for the same thing, and they keep telling them only one you can ONLY HAVE ONE.   :lol:

I did run into my pharmacist that told me how to make my own hand sanitizer and also save money.   :thumbsup:

My guess is the line would be far shorter about noontime.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on March 31, 2020, 07:57:18 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on March 31, 2020, 07:11:24 PM
My guess is the line would be far shorter about noontime.


LOL no it not.  This Costco takes care of about 5 cities around it nothing to drive 75 miles just to go shopping in the area I live. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
What have we been saying all along?
Be sure and click the link and watch the video...


Tucker Carlson Airs Report Claiming Coronavirus 'Probably Originated From A Laboratory In Wuhan'

Tucker Carlson aired a report Tuesday claiming that the novel coronavirus most likely originated in a Wuhan laboratory.

Despite previous reports that coronavirus had been traced to bats, most likely the kind that could be found in wet markets like the one in Wuhan, a new report from Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao of the South China University of Technology suggests that there's a more likely scenario — a leak from a lab.

WATCH:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-lab-wuhan-tucker-carlson-report/


"You might think that the World Health Organization, a group that got 58 million of your tax dollars last year, might care that a government arrests doctors and lies about deadly new diseases," Carlson began. "But no. Like so many organizations they are lapdogs for the powerful, and that means their real job is sucking up to the Chinese government." (RELATED: 'He Drove To Mar-a-Lago': Meghan McCain Praises Tucker Carlson For Getting Trump To 'Believe In This Virus')

Carlson went on to cite the report — which he conceded that he couldn't independently confirm or endorse — noting that the information was at least worthy of consideration.

The report detailed the tracing of COVID-19 to the intermediate horseshoe bat — a bat that they confirmed was not available at the Wuhan wet market and did not live locally. In fact, the report noted that native populations were no closer than 600 miles away from the first known cases, making a natural transmission from bat to human appear more unlikely.

The only place those particular bats existed locally was inside a research facility — which was just several hundred yards from the Wuhan wet market — and the paper's ultimate conclusion was that the coronavirus pandemic had likely been the result of a leak from the lab: "The killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan."

Carlson went on to attack American media outlets for failing to cover the story, in spite of the fact that the report had been publicly available for nearly two months.

"A post on the National Institutes of Health website, written by NIH Director Francis Collins himself, dismisses any such speculation as 'outrageous.' Keep in mind, NIH is supposed to be keeping you safe from diseases like this one not running interference for hostile foreign governments. This is how they are spending their time as Americans die in the middle of a global pandemic. And still, no one address the substance of the claims," Carlson concluded.


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2020, 07:23:13 AM
Here's the document Tucker refers to...

https://web.archive.org/web/20200214144447/https:/www.researchgate.net/publication/339070128_The_possible_origins_of_2019-nCoV_coronavirus

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2020, 12:11:28 PM
Chinese county goes into coronavirus lockdown as country tries to get back to work amid fear of second wave
Authorities order residents of Jia county to stay home after reports of cases linked to the area's hospital
All but a few essential businesses and services shut temporarily, according to government notice

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3078010/chinese-county-goes-coronavirus-lockdown-country-tries-get-back
Title: Is China to blame for Covid-19?
Post by: killermccoy on April 01, 2020, 02:57:56 PM
What say you.
Title: Re: Is China to blame for Covid-19?
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2020, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: killermccoy on April 01, 2020, 02:57:56 PM
What say you.
Of course it is, but you knew that. :wink:
Title: Re: Is China to blame for Covid-19?
Post by: walkstall on April 01, 2020, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: killermccoy on April 01, 2020, 02:57:56 PM
What say you.

LOL  Yes, but remember someone sold (gave) them the shit to play with. 
Title: Re: Is China to blame for Covid-19?
Post by: Archie on April 01, 2020, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: walkstall on April 01, 2020, 05:36:41 PM
LOL  Yes, but remember someone sold (gave) them the shit to play with.


China had two laboratories in the town that the virus started. It started in one of those labs and china knew about it, and did not stop people from coming and leaving their country, and that is how it got all over the world. It was not from bat soup. It was not from Trump.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: The D-Man on April 01, 2020, 07:41:08 PM
In Laredo, Texas (pop. 257,156), not wearing a face mask is now a Class C misdemeanor.

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1245538889068134401
Title: Re: Is China to blame for Covid-19?
Post by: walkstall on April 01, 2020, 07:51:05 PM
Quote from: Archie on April 01, 2020, 07:22:52 PM

China had two laboratories in the town that the virus started. It started in one of those labs and china knew about it, and did not stop people from coming and leaving their country, and that is how it got all over the world. It was not from bat soup. It was not from Trump.


I would say most all that post on this board know that.  Solar and other have been posting on that for over 3+ months. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 01, 2020, 07:58:46 PM
Then Laredo, Texas should be required to have Good PPE not just some form of covering over their nose and mouth that people can get everyday.    Scarf, bandana, or handkerchief just don't cut it. 
Title: Re: Is China to blame for Covid-19?
Post by: Killer Clouds on April 01, 2020, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: killermccoy on April 01, 2020, 02:57:56 PM
What say you.

Absolutely not. It's Trump's fault.
Title: Re: Is China to blame for Covid-19?
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2020, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: Archie on April 01, 2020, 07:22:52 PM

China had two laboratories in the town that the virus started. It started in one of those labs and china knew about it, and did not stop people from coming and leaving their country, and that is how it got all over the world. It was not from bat soup. It was not from Trump.
Hey Archie, check out reply #66

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/66/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2020, 08:26:47 PM
The Latest: Shenzhen bans breeding and eating wild animals

— Shenzhen eyes avoiding future outbreaks with ban on eating wild animals

— Philippine president vows to forcibly ensure order during lockdown

— State Department: planeload of medical supplies from Russia were purchased

— Trump: Canada, England to evacuate passengers from cruise ships near Florida

— Trump: federal stockpile of personal protective equipment nearly depleted.

— UN: global economy could shrink by almost 1 percent.

— Pence: U.S. trajectory akin to hard-hit Italy.

___

BEIJING — China's southern technology powerhouse of Shenzhen has issued the most sweeping ban yet on the breeding and consumption of wild animals in an effort to prevent a future outbreak such as the global coronavirus pandemic.

The virus, first detected in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in December, has been traced to a food market in the city that sold wild animals such as pangolins and civet cats, along as more conventional fare such as chicken and fish.

The consumption of wild animals is considered even more popular in the south where Shenzhen is located. That is where the 2002-2003 global SARS outbreak was believed to have first been spread by people who consumed or worked with wild animals in areas around Shenzhen and who may originally have caught it from wild bats.

Shenzhen's regulations permanently ban the trade in and consumption of wild animals, a step beyond the temporary ban issued by the central government at the start of the current virus outbreak. Along with snakes, lizards and other wild animals, it also bans the consumption of dog and cat meat that have long been a local specialty, citing humanitarian reasons.

Households pets have not been found to spread the coronavirus.

The ban allows for fines beginning at 150,000 yuan ($21,400) and rising considerably depending on the value of the animals seized. It continues to permit the farming of wild animals for medicinal purposes, which has been criticized as cruel and unsanitary, although consumption of such animals for food is banned.


https://apnews.com/a53b578aafda255495e3f967c2080623
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on April 02, 2020, 05:11:25 AM
Interesting article.  'From Bats to Human Lungs, the Evolution of a Coronavirus'

https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/from-bats-to-human-lungs-the-evolution-of-a-coronavirus

Title: Stupid!!! Over Half Of Spring Breakers Have Tested Positive For Coronavirus
Post by: Solar on April 02, 2020, 11:39:56 AM
Hey Petep, here's exactly what we were talking about earlier. I think we can both agree, kids are stupid!!!


Two weeks ago, around 70 spring breakers from the University of Texas at Austin went against the advice of the White House and chartered a plane to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico to party. Now, 44 of them have tested positive for coronavirus according to a university spokesman.

Perhaps even more alarming is that some of the students took commercial flights home, according to CNN, citing the Austin Public Health Department.

Those who tested positive are now in self-isolation (or at least they're supposed to be).

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/dozens-spring-breakers-have-tested-positive-coronavirus
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 02, 2020, 01:21:23 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on March 31, 2020, 07:11:24 PM
My guess is the line would be far shorter about noontime.

The employee standing out with us said around 2:00 it would be dead in there.... but they would have run out of a lot more items by then too. 

Toy   
Title: Re: Stupid!!! Over Half Of Spring Breakers Have Tested Positive For Coronavirus
Post by: Possum on April 02, 2020, 03:29:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 02, 2020, 11:39:56 AM
Hey Petep, here's exactly what we were talking about earlier. I think we can both agree, kids are stupid!!!


Two weeks ago, around 70 spring breakers from the University of Texas at Austin went against the advice of the White House and chartered a plane to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico to party. Now, 44 of them have tested positive for coronavirus according to a university spokesman.

Perhaps even more alarming is that some of the students took commercial flights home, according to CNN, citing the Austin Public Health Department.

Those who tested positive are now in self-isolation (or at least they're supposed to be).

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/dozens-spring-breakers-have-tested-positive-coronavirus
Probably get that from their parnets
Title: Re: Stupid!!! Over Half Of Spring Breakers Have Tested Positive For Coronavirus
Post by: Solar on April 02, 2020, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: Possum on April 02, 2020, 03:29:34 PM
Probably get that from their parnets
Or defiance against their parents. But yes, it falls back to failed parenting.
Title: OT:"The Beatles"
Post by: American Exceptionalism on April 03, 2020, 04:59:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxOJ7hh3H-I&feature=emb_err_watch_on_yt
Title: Re: OT:"The Beatles"
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2020, 05:21:36 AM
Folks, let's keep the COVID stuff to a minimum on the Poli forum, please post in the WUFLU COVID thread.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2020, 05:25:27 AM
Some good news about the virus.

https://twitter.com/OANN/status/1245907506250964993
Title: Re: OT:"The Beatles"
Post by: American Exceptionalism on April 03, 2020, 05:45:57 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 03, 2020, 05:21:36 AM
Folks, let's keep the COVID stuff to a minimum on the Poli forum, please post in the WUFLU COVID thread.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/

I actually forget about that. Go ahead and move it for me. Thanks..sorry too.
Title: Re: OT:"The Beatles"
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2020, 05:51:53 AM
Quote from: American Exceptionalism on April 03, 2020, 05:45:57 AM
I actually forget about that. Go ahead and move it for me. Thanks..sorry too.
No big. I understand that's all that's in the news, I struggle daily to find articles for our other site.

https://news.conservativehardliner.com/

I track more than 50 news sites daily, from AP and Reuters to Asian news site, EU sites, Russian, etc, they all are cluttered with doom and gloom about the Chinese Virus.

So let me post one to take our minds off this crap. :laugh:

https://twitter.com/cctvidiots/status/1246041366464888832
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 03, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 03, 2020, 05:25:27 AM
Some good news about the virus.

https://twitter.com/OANN/status/1245907506250964993

Who would've guessed?

And I'd even add that the number of fatalities attributed to COVID-19 are also exaggerated.
Anyone that's tested positive for COVID-19, recovered,  and then happens to have heart failure, stroke, gets shot or hit by a truck afterwards, died directly as a result of COVID-19.
There's some solid info out there, but you won't find it in the "breaking news" headlines in print or visual news outlets.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2020, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: WMK on April 03, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Who would've guessed?

And I'd even add that the number of fatalities attributed to COVID-19 are also exaggerated.
Anyone that's tested positive for COVID-19, recovered,  and then happens to have heart failure, stroke, gets shot or hit by a truck afterwards, died directly as a result of COVID-19.
There's some solid info out there, but you won't find it in the "breaking news" headlines in print or visual news outlets.
Yep, need that Fed money, no doubt that's what it's all about...

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1246150457401147392
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 04, 2020, 04:16:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 03, 2020, 02:13:40 PM
Yep, need that Fed money, no doubt that's what it's all about...

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1246150457401147392

Political Speak:

Complex - term most often associated with the clandestine activities of government/politicians.
Hence, the more "complex" the bill, the greater the corruption.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: wally on April 04, 2020, 06:32:00 AM
Folks be forgetting that amidst the Democrat Impeachment Hoax President Trump was doing his job.  Even Dr. Fauci repeated the Communist Chines/WHO talking points on January 17th that there was no evidence of this virus having any human to human transmission.  As soon as this lie was exposed by brave 'citizen journalists" and doctors in China (who have since disappeared), President Trump shut banned travel from China. The media and the rest of the Democrats along with the Chinese Communist Party called him a Racist.

(https://i.imgur.com/OnXRi2g.jpg)

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 04, 2020, 07:53:16 AM
He Died of Covid. This was his last message, one everyone should heed.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1246193437210271745
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2020, 04:55:36 AM
Excellent video on the Chinese Virus


https://twitter.com/AMAZINGSClENCE/status/1243071090575978496
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2020, 06:53:49 AM
Let This Sink In...

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1246557480106307589
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2020, 01:00:25 PM
San Frafreako shuts down...

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-san-francisco-deserted-tourist-attractions-shelter-in-place-2020-3#locals-and-tourists-alike-typically-frequent-the-many-shops-near-the-square-like-uniqlo-hm-and-macys-15
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on April 05, 2020, 01:03:37 PM
https://www.libertynewsforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=388

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2020, 01:11:27 PM
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1246633426092019713
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2020, 01:19:48 PM
Fuck China and The Rat they ate!

https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1246158528177491968
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2020, 02:43:38 PM
https://twitter.com/AdonisAlbright/status/1246897821917167616
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
https://twitter.com/natashaldaly/status/1246900371706036228
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2020, 02:52:14 PM
COVID-19 Patients Accidentally Transferred To USNS Comfort

A number of patients infected with coronavirus were transferred to a Navy hospital ship in New York by mistake. According to officials, the patients accidentally came on board the USNS Comfort on Friday.

There were reportedly "fewer than five" people infected with the virus on the ship. The initial COVID-19 screening did not display they had tested positive.

Two Navy hospitals ships, which were equipped with 1,000 beds each, were provided to take the load off of hospitals by treating non-coronavirus patients during the pandemic. However, the vessels have proven to not be much help at all.

As of Sunday, the USNS Comfort in New York City had only seen 20 patients, while the USNS Mercy docked in Los Angeles only saw 15.

"The need is really for the COVID patients," said New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. "I know they're not taking COVID positive patients, but they said that from day one, in fairness."



https://www.oann.com/covid-19-patients-accidentally-transferred-to-usns-comfort/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 05, 2020, 08:28:52 PM
Question...

Damn is there anyone that does not die from Coronavirus now?  The MSM needs to pull their head out of there ass.
Title: Maxine Waters Urges Americans ‘Do Not Listen’ To President Trump ...
Post by: Stu Gatze on April 06, 2020, 04:28:45 AM



Maxine Waters Urges Americans 'Do Not Listen' To President Trump On How To Handle COVID-19

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By: Adam Morgan
April 6, 2020

An international poll of more than 6,000 doctors released Thursday found that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine was the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus, reported Washington Times.

The survey conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, of 6,227 physicians in 30 countries found that 37% of those treating COVID-19 patients rated hydroxychloroquine as the "most effective therapy" from a list of 15 options.

Last month, the Commander in Chief announced the FDA approval of Hydroxychloroquine for possible treatment of the coronavirus, during a White House Coronavirus Task Force briefing.

"A drug called Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine– this is a common malaria drug. It's also a drug used for strong arthritis ... also uses this in somewhat of a different form. But it is known as a malaria drug and it has been around for a long time and it's very powerful. The nice part is it's been around for a long time. So, we know if things don't go as planned, it's not going to kill anybody," the president explained.

Hydroxychloroquine, sold under the brand name Plaquenil — and also used to treat arthritis and other ailments — was determined to be effective in killing the virus in laboratory experiments, Forbes reported, citing findings published March 9 in the Clinical Infectious Diseases journal.

On Sunday, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) urged her followers to not listen to the President when it comes to handling COVID-19.

"Do not listen to 45 when he suggests untested #Hydroxychloroquine to treat #COVID19 – listen to Fauci," Waters tweeted.

Last month, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said he would prescribe the medication President Trump has touted as a potential treatment for coronavirus patients.


MORE>https://newspushed.com/maxine-waters-urges-americans-do-not-listen-to-president-trump-on-how-to-handle-covid-19/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2020, 10:27:11 AM
Remember when the media claimed Two Trump Supporters drank fish tank cleaner? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bet you never heard this from Marxist Media.

The Arizona woman who said that she and her 68-year-old husband ingested a substance used to clean fish tanks after hearing President Donald Trump tout chloroquine as a cure for the coronavirus has given thousands of dollars to Democratic groups and candidates over the last two years.

The woman's most recent donations, in late February, were to a Democratic PAC, the 314 Action Fund, that bills itself as the "pro-science resistance" and has vocally criticized the Trump administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic and held up her case to slam the White House.

Although local and national media outlets withheld the couple's names, the Washington Free Beacon established their identities through descriptions in local news reports, where the pair were identified by their first names and ages: Gary, 68, and Wanda, 61. The Free Beacon is withholding their identities at Wanda's request.

Federal Election Commission records show that Wanda has donated thousands of dollars to Democratic electoral groups and candidates over the past two years, including Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and EMILY's List, a group that aims to elect pro-choice female candidates.

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/woman-who-ingested-fish-tank-cleaner-was-prolific-donor-to-democratic-causes/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2020, 10:38:15 AM



https://twitter.com/GPIngersoll/status/1247151284303650816
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2020, 03:03:34 PM
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson was moved to the intensive care unit of a London hospital after his coronavirus symptoms dramatically worsened Monday, just a day after he was admitted for what were said to be routine tests.

Johnson was admitted to St. Thomas' Hospital late Sunday, 10 days after he was diagnosed with COVID-19, the first major world leader to be confirmed to have the virus.

The 55-year-old Conservative was conscious and did not require ventilation, but he was moved into intensive care in case he needs it later, his office said in a statement.

Britain has no official post of deputy prime minister, but Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has been designated to take over should Johnson become incapacitated.

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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2020, 03:21:59 PM
Accident My Ass!


China Floods Facebook with Ads Blaming Trump for Chinese Virus

Chinese state media has been flooding Facebook and Instagram with undisclosed political ads blaming President Donald Trump for the Wuhan coronavirus. Facebook said in a statement that it was an "error" that the ads were not classified as political and is correcting them.

The Telegraph reports that Chinese state media has been posting undisclosed political ads to Facebook and Instagram in an attempt to downplay China's role in the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic and blaming President Donald Trump. Three Chinese state media outlets, Xinhua, China Central Television, and the Global Times, have targeted ads towards users across the world in English, Chinese, and Arabic.

The ads have reportedly been seen millions of times and extol China's efforts to fight the coronavirus while downplaying the countries domestic outbreak. The articles portray President Trump as misguided and racist and suggest that the virus may have originated in the United States. "[China] has taken stringent and forceful measures, and turned the tide on coronavirus," said one ad. Another states: "Trump's disruption to China has severe consequences."

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/04/06/china-floods-facebook-with-ads-blaming-trump-for-chinese-virus/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 06, 2020, 03:45:02 PM
QuoteAnother states: "Trump's disruption to China has severe consequences."

I would say this all falls at China door. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 06, 2020, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2020, 01:00:25 PM
San Frafreako shuts down...

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-san-francisco-deserted-tourist-attractions-shelter-in-place-2020-3#locals-and-tourists-alike-typically-frequent-the-many-shops-near-the-square-like-uniqlo-hm-and-macys-15

They should put a tall chain link fence around its perimeter and post a large sign -
Zoo Closed Until Further Notice!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2020, 09:37:05 AM
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1247287993095897088
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2020, 09:46:36 AM
Rand Paul Recovers from Coronavirus, Volunteering at Hospital

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) – U.S. Sen. Rand Paul said Tuesday that he has recovered from the coronavirus and has started volunteering at a hospital in his Kentucky hometown.

The Republican lawmaker tested positive for the virus in March, becoming the first case of COVID-19 in the Senate.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/07/rand-paul-recovers-from-coronavirus-volunteering-at-hospital/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 07, 2020, 10:11:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2020, 09:46:36 AM
Rand Paul Recovers from Coronavirus, Volunteering at Hospital

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) – U.S. Sen. Rand Paul said Tuesday that he has recovered from the coronavirus and has started volunteering at a hospital in his Kentucky hometown.

The Republican lawmaker tested positive for the virus in March, becoming the first case of COVID-19 in the Senate.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/07/rand-paul-recovers-from-coronavirus-volunteering-at-hospital/


That's nice but does he think he can not get it again? 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2020, 03:23:19 PM
Coronavirus Deaths Could Be 'Much, Much, Much Lower' Than The White House Task Force's Projected 100,000 Mark

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield now thinks the total number of coronavirus deaths in the United States could fall well short of the 100,000 low-mark previously predicted by the White House task force.

Redfield, who sits on the White House task force but does not speak at every press briefing, made the comments during a Monday interview with an Arizona radio station.

Redfield's interview came the same day that researches at the Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation, whose data the task force uses as a primary input in making its predictions, lowered its estimates of roughly 94,000 deaths to 82,000. The new data showed a 14 percent decrease in the model's previous projections and a 30 percent decrease from the worst case scenario.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/07/coronavirus-deaths-could-be-much-lower-white-house-task-forces-projected/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2020, 04:53:09 PM
They weren't dead during cremation?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=108&v=DU5Vu7XBpzg&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Sauce on April 07, 2020, 09:22:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=eglF0BFkkrQ&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=eglF0BFkkrQ&feature=emb_logo)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 08, 2020, 05:06:32 AM
Quote from: Sauce on April 07, 2020, 09:22:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=eglF0BFkkrQ&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=eglF0BFkkrQ&feature=emb_logo)
Man, this is just tooo weird. I have no idea if this is innocent, or a passing of the poison to do Trump in.
I'm certain Trump knows where all the players stand though.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on April 09, 2020, 06:20:54 AM
This pandemic has changed our lives in odd ways.  We now talk at distances. Shopping is an obstacle course - as well as a patience builder for people like I.  Dinner is a drive through and at home where it used to be family more isolated. TV dinner has new meaning. Cathedrals are now hospitals.  Mosques, Synagogue and churches are empty lots. I hate these masks but now wear one - sometimes. Parks are crowded with walkers and beaches are closed to them. Truckers speed along alone and lines form before stores open. TV is a statistician and not a good one. Trump lies - I guess that's not new. Fauci warns and now talking heads all appear from a computer.  I have my computer eye blacked out. We call friends now well some friends.  What do lip readers do.  Death is more alone than ever.  And the end of all this appears vague and unknown. 

A few items of interest.

COVID-19 Response White Papers
https://ethics.harvard.edu/covid-19-response

'What's the Best Material for a Mask?'
https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-homemade-mask-material-DIY-face-mask-ppe.html

'Coronavirus testing methods: What you need to know'
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-testing-methods-200330142718434.html

'It's a razor's edge we're walking': inside the race to develop a coronavirus vaccine'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/inside-the-race-to-develop-a-coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Sauce on April 09, 2020, 06:26:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 08, 2020, 05:06:32 AM
Man, this is just tooo weird. I have no idea if this is innocent, or a passing of the poison to do Trump in.
I'm certain Trump knows where all the players stand though.

And he did it again yesterday.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=eccwjmPxM-s&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=eccwjmPxM-s&feature=emb_logo)

At this point it seems too overt, this is intentional, meant to be seen....baiting for a reaction - to be fired maybe
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on April 09, 2020, 06:30:03 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on April 09, 2020, 06:20:54 AM
This pandemic has changed our lives in odd ways.  We now talk at distances. Shopping is an obstacle course - as well as a patience builder for people like I.  Dinner is a drive through and at home where it used to be family more isolated. TV dinner has new meaning. Cathedrals are now hospitals.  Mosques, Synagogue and churches are empty lots. I hate these masks but now wear one - sometimes. Parks are crowded with walkers and beaches are closed to them. Truckers speed along alone and lines form before stores open. TV is a statistician and not a good one. Trump lies - I guess that's not new. Fauci warns and now talking heads all appear from a computer.  I have my computer eye blacked out. We call friends now well some friends.  What do lip readers do.  Death is more alone than ever.  And the end of all this appears vague and unknown. 

A few items of interest.

COVID-19 Response White Papers
https://ethics.harvard.edu/covid-19-response

'What's the Best Material for a Mask?'
https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-homemade-mask-material-DIY-face-mask-ppe.html

'Coronavirus testing methods: What you need to know'
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-testing-methods-200330142718434.html

'It's a razor's edge we're walking': inside the race to develop a coronavirus vaccine'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/inside-the-race-to-develop-a-coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19

TDS is strong in this one.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2020, 06:36:43 AM
Quote from: Sauce on April 09, 2020, 06:26:06 AM
And he did it again yesterday.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=eccwjmPxM-s&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=eccwjmPxM-s&feature=emb_logo)

At this point it seems too overt, this is intentional, meant to be seen....baiting for a reaction - to be fired maybe
Yes, this is too weird. The thing is, Fauci loves the media attention, and if he tries to trip up Trump, he commits suicide as far as being in the worlds spotlight.
At the moment he's walking a tight rope, and it's a long way to the other side of the canyon.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Sauce on April 09, 2020, 06:47:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2020, 06:36:43 AM
Yes, this is too weird. The thing is, Fauci loves the media attention, and if he tries to trip up Trump, he commits suicide as far as being in the worlds spotlight.
At the moment he's walking a tight rope, and it's a long way to the other side of the canyon.


True, but to LEAD the Resistance, ahh, that might be the ultimate goal in his eys....especially as PDJT starts easing us out of this nightmare shutdown...

he'll have his soap box, and the media will make it a pulpit.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2020, 06:56:28 AM
Quote from: Sauce on April 09, 2020, 06:47:15 AM

True, but to LEAD the Resistance, ahh, that might be the ultimate goal in his eys....especially as PDJT starts easing us out of this nightmare shutdown...

he'll have his soap box, and the media will make it a pulpit.
That's always a possibility. But does anyone really listen to the left anymore? I don't, I ridicule them at every turn.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on April 09, 2020, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on April 09, 2020, 06:20:54 AM
This pandemic has changed our lives in odd ways.  We now talk at distances. Shopping is an obstacle course - as well as a patience builder for people like I.  Dinner is a drive through and at home where it used to be family more isolated. TV dinner has new meaning. Cathedrals are now hospitals.  Mosques, Synagogue and churches are empty lots. I hate these masks but now wear one - sometimes. Parks are crowded with walkers and beaches are closed to them. Truckers speed along alone and lines form before stores open. TV is a statistician and not a good one. Trump lies - I guess that's not new. Fauci warns and now talking heads all appear from a computer.  I have my computer eye blacked out. We call friends now well some friends.  What do lip readers do.  Death is more alone than ever.  And the end of all this appears vague and unknown. 

A few items of interest.

COVID-19 Response White Papers
https://ethics.harvard.edu/covid-19-response

'What's the Best Material for a Mask?'
https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-homemade-mask-material-DIY-face-mask-ppe.html

'Coronavirus testing methods: What you need to know'
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-testing-methods-200330142718434.html

'It's a razor's edge we're walking': inside the race to develop a coronavirus vaccine'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/inside-the-race-to-develop-a-coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19


https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1247717955787460612?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1247717955787460612&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fthe-media%2F2020%2F04%2F08%2Fnolte-cnns-chris-cuomo-caught-selectively-editing-trump-comments%2F
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 02:03:25 PM
Here is an unintended consequence of the  "crisis"

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/health/2020/04/02/health-care-workers-laid-off-patient-visits-drop-during-coronavirus-pandemic/5089438002/

"By the end of June, as many as 60,000 family practices could close or significantly scale back, leaving 800,000 of their employees laid off, furloughed or working reduced hours as business declines during the coronavirus pandemic, according to data released Thursday by the American Academy of Family Physicians and HealthLandscape.

That represents 43% of the nearly 1.9 million people employed at family medicine offices, including receptionists, medical assistants, nurses, physicians, billing staff and janitors.

The figure doesn't include reductions at hospitals and specialty clinics that are also feeling the pinch.

The situation is a Catch-22 of sorts. As hospitals and emergency rooms deal with a surge of patients affected by the coronavirus, clinics and other health care centers are seeing a decline in elective surgeries, procedures and preventive care like annual physicals, well-woman visits and regular teeth cleanings."

One thing i take  issue with is this "surge" of  corona  patients they refer  to. Yes the  model trump used to make  policy  did  indeed show  surges  its apparent they didnt  materialize. If you feel hospitals  in the  nation are overflowing and  unable to handle  the  load  please feel free to contradict  me. I  am having a  hard time  finding  pictures  of these  places where patients are  literally  storming  in and  unable to get care.

So, as  many as  800,000(and as the article says that  isnt  including  hospitals) will be added to the  already  16.6 million(with millions  more to come) who are  now  unemployed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 02:03:25 PM
Here is an unintended consequence of the  "crisis"

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/health/2020/04/02/health-care-workers-laid-off-patient-visits-drop-during-coronavirus-pandemic/5089438002/

"By the end of June, as many as 60,000 family practices could close or significantly scale back, leaving 800,000 of their employees laid off, furloughed or working reduced hours as business declines during the coronavirus pandemic, according to data released Thursday by the American Academy of Family Physicians and HealthLandscape.

That represents 43% of the nearly 1.9 million people employed at family medicine offices, including receptionists, medical assistants, nurses, physicians, billing staff and janitors.

The figure doesn't include reductions at hospitals and specialty clinics that are also feeling the pinch.

The situation is a Catch-22 of sorts. As hospitals and emergency rooms deal with a surge of patients affected by the coronavirus, clinics and other health care centers are seeing a decline in elective surgeries, procedures and preventive care like annual physicals, well-woman visits and regular teeth cleanings."

One thing i take  issue with is this "surge" of  corona  patients they refer  to. Yes the  model trump used to make  policy  did  indeed show  surges  its apparent they didnt  materialize. If you feel hospitals  in the  nation are overflowing and  unable to handle  the  load  please feel free to contradict  me. I  am having a  hard time  finding  pictures  of these  places where patients are  literally  storming  in and  unable to get care.

So, as  many as  800,000(and as the article says that  isnt  including  hospitals) will be added to the  already  16.6 million(with millions  more to come) who are  now  unemployed.
You forgot to claim it was the Orangemanbad' fault!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
You forgot to claim it was the Orangemanbad' fault!

Now that  you  mention it  i will only add that since the  hospitals  have alot  more free time  on thier  hands than anticipated perhaps its time to allow them to take  in more  patients.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2020, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 02:19:23 PM
Now that  you  mention it  i will only add that since the  hospitals  have alot  more free time  on thier  hands than anticipated perhaps its time to allow them to take  in more  patients.
Most hospitals have canceled elective surgeries, so there is no need to stay open, especially if they aren't being hit with the virus.
Keep in mind, hospitals are not govt owned.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2020, 02:22:23 PM
Most hospitals have canceled elective surgeries, so there is no need to stay open, especially if they aren't being hit with the virus.
Keep in mind, hospitals are not govt owned.

No they arent  govt  owned but they did  get  some  encouragement from the surgeon general

https://newsthud.com/trumps-surgeon-general-jerome-adams-advises-hospitals-to-cancel-elective-surgeries/

"We know we will soon see our hospitals flooded with patients – treatment works but as we saw in Italy and China the key is to have access to hospital beds and equipment. A sudden influx will overload the system so you can expect to see more hospitals start doing this.

"Hospital & healthcare systems, PLEASE CONSIDER STOPPING ELECTIVE PROCEDURES until we can #FlattenTheCurve!" Adams tweeted this morning."

That  was  his reasoning that was based  on a horribly  flawed  model. We didnt  see  our  hospitals  flooded with patients so i think the surgeon general should  consider allowing  hospitals to take  in more  patients. Let  me  change  "allowing" to encouraging.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 03:39:34 PM
Here  is an article  some  may find  interesting.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/coronavirus-pandemic-projection-models-proving-unreliable/

"My use of the term "off" is intentional. There is no shortage of government spin, regurgitated by media commentators, assuring us that the drastic reductions in the projections over just a few days powerfully illustrate how well social distancing and the substantial shuttering of the economy is working. Nonsense. As Alex Berenson points out on Twitter, with an accompanying screenshot data updated by IHME on April 1, the original April 2 model explicitly "assum[ed] full social distancing through May 2020."

I am amazed  i seem to be  one  of the  few who are concerned freedom can be extinguished because  of this  hideously  flawed  model. Is this  how  little  we revere freedom? This  model has  allowed 40+ governors  to become  dictators. I dont  care for  it.

This also goes to my point in another  post  about  medical people and thier extensive  training. We are going into what  is  likely to be a depression, we are  under the  control of  40+ despots all because these "extensively  trained" people were so ignorant?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 05:21:48 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 05:23:11 PM
Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
Washington State shuts down its COVID field hospital. Total patient count: Zero. The move is ""aimed at helping another state with a more significant need..." Good luck with that.

As we can see they are going to try to keep death counts  up with rather devious  methods
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 07:00:42 PM
Here  is a study  just released from germany where  it appears  the death rate  is  quite flu-like.

https://www.bccourier.com/these-are-the-first-lessons-of-the-heinsberg-study/

"Virologist Hendrik Streeck considers an beginning relaxation of the strict conditions possible in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic. Because most people were "so active and disciplined", it was now possible to go into a "phase two": a withdrawal of conditions while ensuring the hygiene measures. "We have learned how to behave properly in terms of hygiene," said Streeck."

"These are the first, but already representative interim results:

    at 15 Percent of the examined Gangelts residents were found to be infected
    The likelihood of dying from the disease lies in gear at 0.37 percent
    For comparison: According to the Johns Hopkins University, the lethality in Germany is currently 1.98 Percent – five times higher."

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 07:06:07 PM
Results from Iceland  mirror  those  in germany.

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
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1h
Turns out the Icelandic #COVID data shows almost the exact fatality rate of the new German data: about 1 in 300 - 6 deaths in 1648 positive tests). Somewhat worse than the flu, though other data suggests the flu is much MORE dangerous to the young. https://covid.is/data
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 09, 2020, 07:13:52 PM
Here  is another  bit  of  news about  possible  number  padding

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/how-honest-is-the-covid-fatality-count.php?fbclid=IwAR0sKep3l0UMQme1uHbK9L96AlJAnCtXKvZPm_8UKGMmIOMEzbJilo-5RwY

"Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 01:10:42 AM
https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530092711-roseland-hospital-phlebotomist-30-of-those-tested-have-coronavirus-antibody (https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530092711-roseland-hospital-phlebotomist-30-of-those-tested-have-coronavirus-antibody)

If you  have the  anti-body you  have had  corona which means you are  immune. What does that mean? They have already had it which means at least 80 million nationwide. that also means the death rate is miniscule.

"Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease.


Sumaya Owaynat

"A lot of people have high antibodies, which means they had the coronavirus but they don't have it anymore and their bodies built the antibodies," Owaynat told Chicago City Wire."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 05:20:28 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 01:10:42 AM
https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530092711-roseland-hospital-phlebotomist-30-of-those-tested-have-coronavirus-antibody (https://chicagocitywire.com/stories/530092711-roseland-hospital-phlebotomist-30-of-those-tested-have-coronavirus-antibody)

If you  have the  anti-body you  have had  corona which means you are  immune. What does that mean? They have already had it which means at least 80 million nationwide. that also means the death rate is miniscule.

"Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease.


Sumaya Owaynat

"A lot of people have high antibodies, which means they had the coronavirus but they don't have it anymore and their bodies built the antibodies," Owaynat told Chicago City Wire."
WOW! So a tech said that between 30 and`and 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies.
Now think about those words, and the fact this so called author talked to a tech, not an actual phlebotomist, or a doctor, but someone that runs crap as a gopher.
Now, think about that 30 to 50 spread, and that doesn't ring alarm bells?

Oh, one other thing, the hospital only has 138 beds, and we're supposed to take some silly anecdotal evidence that this sets precedent nationwide? 80 million nationwide.? What a gullible fool!

Roseland Community Hospital, located on the far south side of Chicago, has 138 beds serving a majority minority population with over 96% of the community's residents identifying as African-American.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 05:25:34 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2020, 05:20:28 AM
WOW! So a tech said that between 30 and`and 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies.
Now think about those words, and the fact this so called author talked to a tech, not an actual phlebotomist, or a doctor, but someone that runs crap as a gopher.
Now, think about that 30 to 50 spread, and that doesn't ring alarm bells?

Oh, one other thing, the hospital only has 138 beds, and we're supposed to take some silly anecdotal evidence that this sets precedent nationwide? 80 million nationwide.? What a gullible fool!

Roseland Community Hospital, located on the far south side of Chicago, has 138 beds serving a majority minority population with over 96% of the community's residents identifying as African-American.

I think you  would  agree the  model trump is  using  has equally impressive  spreads  if  not  moreso. Im not  sure what  difference  it  makes  if they are african american or  not. I think you are going to find the  virus got  out  of the  bag  long ago and  infected an awful lot  of  people.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 05:36:43 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 05:25:34 AM
I think you  would  agree the  model trump is  using  has equally impressive  spreads  if  not  moreso. Im not  sure what  difference  it  makes  if they are african american or  not. I think you are going to find the  virus got  out  of the  bag  long ago and  infected an awful lot  of  people.
It makes no difference to me, but apparently it did to you. You posted this piece of tripe as representative of all the US, and the only evidence is based on the word of some tech that doesn't even know how to draw blood.
You do know what a tech is, right? He cleans the lab equipment and runs errands, he's a damn gopher!!

Your need to prove your ignorance before the world has been a success, quit while you're ahead.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 06:19:36 AM
Pope Francis Says Pandemic Is 'Nature's Response' to Human Inaction over Climate Change

Wow, The stupid is strong with this one...

Pope Francis said he believes the Chinese coronavirus pandemic is "certainly nature's response" to humanity's failure to address the "partial catastrophes" wrought by human-induced climate change.

Asked by British journalist Austen Ivereigh whether the COVID-19 crisis is an opportunity for an "ecological conversion," the pontiff reasserted his belief that humanity has provoked nature by not responding adequately to the climate crisis.

"There is an expression in Spanish: 'God always forgives, we forgive sometimes, but nature never forgives,'" Francis said in the interview published Wednesday. "We did not respond to the partial catastrophes. Who now speaks of the fires in Australia, or remembers that a year and a half ago a boat could cross the North Pole because the glaciers had all melted? Who speaks now of the floods?"


https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/04/09/pope-francis-says-pandemic-is-natures-response-to-human-inaction-over-climate-change/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 06:37:39 AM
Trump: US Needs To Be Carrying Out Roughly 750,000 Coronavirus Tests Per Week Before Re-Opening Economy

President Donald Trump suggested Thursday that he is waiting until roughly 750,000 coronavirus tests are being carried out every week before easing social distancing guidelines that would allow the economy to re-open.

"I don't like using the word 'needed,'" Trump responded when asked by a reporter at the White House task force briefing about the aforementioned number of tests. "Because I don't think it's 'needed.'"
"We're going to try to hit a number like that," he continued. "That's a very high number, but we'll be trying to hit it, and we probably might be able to do that."

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/09/trump-us-needs-750000-coronavirus-tests-per-week-re-opening-economy/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 10, 2020, 08:05:44 AM
Medical clothing arriving in France from China.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1248456343050059784
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on April 10, 2020, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2020, 06:19:36 AM
Pope Francis Says Pandemic Is 'Nature's Response' to Human Inaction over Climate Change

Wow, The stupid is strong with this one...

Pope Francis said he believes the Chinese coronavirus pandemic is "certainly nature's response" to humanity's failure to address the "partial catastrophes" wrought by human-induced climate change.

Asked by British journalist Austen Ivereigh whether the COVID-19 crisis is an opportunity for an "ecological conversion," the pontiff reasserted his belief that humanity has provoked nature by not responding adequately to the climate crisis.

"There is an expression in Spanish: 'God always forgives, we forgive sometimes, but nature never forgives,'" Francis said in the interview published Wednesday. "We did not respond to the partial catastrophes. Who now speaks of the fires in Australia, or remembers that a year and a half ago a boat could cross the North Pole because the glaciers had all melted? Who speaks now of the floods?"


https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/04/09/pope-francis-says-pandemic-is-natures-response-to-human-inaction-over-climate-change/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true

The Pope is clearly a leftist. I am not Catholic, but I suggest there is probably quite a split in the church. I would suspect there are a number of Cardinals who would like a recall vote.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 09:07:54 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 10, 2020, 08:24:57 AM
The Pope is clearly a leftist. I am not Catholic, but I suggest there is probably quite a split in the church. I would suspect there are a number of Cardinals who would like a recall vote.
I see him as a full blown Marxist. How these scum rose to the top is no doubt one of those great mysteries, and no doubt a cancer within the church.
Title: Ron Paul Calls On Trump To Fire Dr. Fauci
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 09:35:24 AM
Ron Paul Calls On Trump To Fire Dr. Fauci, Says Some Are Trying 'To Have Total Control Over The People'

"The plan that they have is when things are getting back to normal, people can return to their work, and they do things, and go to the golf course if they get a stamp of approval," Paul said. "Your liberties are there if you get a proper stamp from the government."

"It's an excuse to have total control over the people," Paul continued.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/09/texas-ron-paul-donald-trump-doctor-anthony-fauci-fire-dismiss-coronavirus-covid-19/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 04:28:25 PM
Fauci is  a  piece  of S**** . Said that from the  beginning
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 04:30:21 PM
Bravo to a  brave  man!!!

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2020/04/10/gov-abbott-planning-executive-order-for-guidelines.html

"Gov. Greg Abbott is drafting an executive order for guidelines for re-opening Texas businesses. Abbott said that order, which will come next week, will look at ways to safely provide economic revitalization to Texas.

"We will focus on protective lives while restoring livelihoods. We can do both," Abbott said Friday, April 10, during an afternoon news conference."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 04:31:04 PM
Republican govs  who are defying  fauci will need  our  support.
Title: Re: Ron Paul Calls On Trump To Fire Dr. Fauci
Post by: WMK on April 10, 2020, 04:32:54 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2020, 09:35:24 AM
Ron Paul Calls On Trump To Fire Dr. Fauci, Says Some Are Trying 'To Have Total Control Over The People'

"The plan that they have is when things are getting back to normal, people can return to their work, and they do things, and go to the golf course if they get a stamp of approval," Paul said. "Your liberties are there if you get a proper stamp from the government."

"It's an excuse to have total control over the people," Paul continued.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/09/texas-ron-paul-donald-trump-doctor-anthony-fauci-fire-dismiss-coronavirus-covid-19/

Perhaps Fauci suffers from a Napoleonic Complex?!?
Title: Re: Ron Paul Calls On Trump To Fire Dr. Fauci
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 04:39:37 PM
Quote from: WMK on April 10, 2020, 04:32:54 PM
Perhaps Fauci suffers from a Napoleonic Complex?!?
It does look that way, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Ron Paul Calls On Trump To Fire Dr. Fauci
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2020, 04:39:37 PM
It does look that way, doesn't it?

Someone else explained  it  better than me. Fauci has  never  been so adored  by  media and had  his  every  word seem like  it comes from god  than now. He  is loving  this. Also, he  has  every  incentive to make this seem as  bad as  possible to get even more adoration from the  media. Lastly, no amount  of  economic  misery is going to effect  him.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 04:54:44 PM
Chinese City Evicted Scores Of Africans From Their Homes As WHO Accused Taiwan Of Stoking Racism

As the Chinese-backed head of the World Health Organization accused Taiwan of stoking racism on Wednesday, scores of Africans living in the Chinese city of Guangzhou were being evicted from their homes over claims they were importing coronavirus into the city.

"We have no house, no food, no hotel," an unnamed Nigerian student living in Guangzhou told the BBC on Thursday. "There are up to 100 people still on the streets. People want to go back to our countries."

"I don't know what the problem is with China," the student said. "Everywhere that Africans live they are pushing us away."

The forced evictions were predicated by online rumors that coronavirus was spreading among Africans living in Guangzhou, which has one of the largest African communities in China, the BBC reported.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/10/chinese-city-african-evictions-world-health-organization-taiwan/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 06:36:16 PM
How about a little perspective just for the hell of it?

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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 06:57:11 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2020, 06:36:16 PM
How about a little perspective just for the hell of it?

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Dont  give dem govs any new  ideas. They  might  use that to ban motor  vehicles. Speaking  of  Italy you  may not  be aware that  back in feb to show they arent  racist they had a  "hug a  chinese day". That worked  out  pretty good.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 07:04:06 PM
https://politicodailynews.com/church-members-fined-500-for-attending-drive-in-service-in-their-cars/

Damn another  victim of the  corona  panic, religious  freedom
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2020, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 07:04:06 PM
https://politicodailynews.com/church-members-fined-500-for-attending-drive-in-service-in-their-cars/

Damn another  victim of the  corona  panic, religious  freedom
Let me guess. Trump's fault?


You do know, this is a States Rights issue, Right?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2020, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2020, 07:05:50 PM
Let me guess. Trump's fault?


You do know, this is a States Rights issue, Right?

I  am well aware we  now  have 40+ despots. It would  be  nice  for  Trump to speak out against this  however.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 05:19:32 AM
Its time for  trump to end this NOW!! Speak up man. You may not  have the  power to order govs to cease but  you sure as hell can speak up for the  people  that  voted  for  you. This is turning  into a war  on religion

CNN
@CNN
Kentucky will record license plates of those who show up to any mass gatherings, such as church services, and will provide that info to local health departments, who will in turn order those individuals to be quarantined for 14 days, Gov. Andy Beshear says
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 05:20:28 AM
concentration camps  next?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 05:39:04 AM
What  kentucky is doing  isnt far from concentration camps and  it seems people  just  accept  another freedom gone.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2020, 05:42:08 AM
Yeah, it's Bill Maher, but every now and then, the lib gets it Right.


https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1248883434396610560
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2020, 05:44:13 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 05:39:04 AM
What  kentucky is doing  isnt far from concentration camps and  it seems people  just  accept  another freedom gone.
Quit watering down this thread with bull shit, if you have something to say, consolidate it into one post, otherwise I'm going to start deleting your nonsense!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 11, 2020, 05:52:13 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 05:39:04 AM
What  kentucky is doing  isnt far from concentration camps and  it seems people  just  accept  another freedom gone.
So is this a virus problem or did the fine people of Kentucky learn from electing liberals?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 08:11:17 AM
Quote from: Possum on April 11, 2020, 05:52:13 AM
So is this a virus problem or did the fine people of Kentucky learn from electing liberals?

Yep, the  idiots elected a democrat.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 08:13:52 AM
Some doctors  with common sense. One of them should  replace  Dr Strangelove beside  Trump.

https://medium.com/@jbgeach/eight-reasons-to-end-the-lockdowns-now-fed3a7036301

"The most effective time for social distancing is early in a pandemic. Lockdowns also slow the development of herd immunity, which helps a society move past the virus.

We can still practice good hand hygiene, wear masks in public, and continue social distancing for the elderly and high risk, while we develop protective herd immunity for those most at risk. By the time the lockdowns began, COVID-19 had already been seeded in the US for months, limiting the effectiveness of the lockdowns in the first place as the virus was already widespread."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 03:37:02 PM
If Trump would  only  start  speaking  out and take  back control from Fauci

Steve Cortes
@CortesSteve
·
7h
In the case of Michigan, and perhaps other states, these state/local leaders will surely pursue punitive restrictions even once Pres Trump reopens our economy, providing a big political opportunity for Trump to win over rightly-angered voters in those places. 3/3
The petty tyrant Michigan leader @GovWhitmer
mandates that citizens may not travel to their own second residences, may not buy garden seeds or a can of paint. Such govt overreach represents an affront against common sense and our principles of liberty 1/3
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2020, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 04:08:03 PM
*Its too late for  me to add this  importand  post to my earlier  kentucky post.

A decent  judge  sides with 1 church in Kentucky

https://apnews.com/28cb3aeb9345392f336b77e4b3da5bf3

U.S. District Judge Justin Walker sided with the church, saying that the city is prohibited from "enforcing; attempting to enforce; threatening to enforce; or otherwise requiring compliance with any prohibition on drive-in church services at On Fire."

"On Holy Thursday, an American mayor criminalized the communal celebration of Easter," Walker wrote in his sternly worded 20-page opinion. "That sentence is one that this Court never expected to see outside the pages of a dystopian novel, or perhaps the pages of The Onion."

Walker added that "The Mayor's decision is stunning. And it is, 'beyond all reason,' unconstitutional."
If you'd stop and look around, you'd see that half the shit you post has already been posted!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on April 11, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 11, 2020, 03:37:02 PM
If Trump would  only  start  speaking  out and take  back control from Fauci

Steve Cortes
@CortesSteve
·
7h
In the case of Michigan, and perhaps other states, these state/local leaders will surely pursue punitive restrictions even once Pres Trump reopens our economy, providing a big political opportunity for Trump to win over rightly-angered voters in those places. 3/3
The petty tyrant Michigan leader @GovWhitmer
mandates that citizens may not travel to their own second residences, may not buy garden seeds or a can of paint. Such govt overreach represents an affront against common sense and our principles of liberty 1/3

Fauci has Trump right where he wants him:

https://orissadiary.com/us-president-donaldtrump-thanks-indiaindian-people-pm-narendramodi-for-helping-united-states-with-hydroxychloriquine-by-changing-export-rules/

QuoteNew Delhi: USA Presidents Donal Trump thanks PM Narendra Modi for the decision to lift ban on exports of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ). Trump thanks India, Indian People & Prime Minister Narendra Modi for helping United States with #hydroxychloriquine by changing export rules amidst nationwide lockdown due to global #COVID19 pandemic. Says, 'will not be forgotten'. Praises strong leadership of Modi.

Everyone knows how much Fauci loves HCQ...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 12, 2020, 05:17:42 AM
Quote from: taxed on April 11, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
Fauci has Trump right where he wants him:

https://orissadiary.com/us-president-donaldtrump-thanks-indiaindian-people-pm-narendramodi-for-helping-united-states-with-hydroxychloriquine-by-changing-export-rules/

Everyone knows how much Fauci loves HCQ...

None of that tells  me anything about when trump will end the  idiotic  lockdowns.
And Fauci is still there at every  update.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2020, 06:52:40 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 12, 2020, 05:17:42 AM
None of that tells  me anything about when trump will end the  idiotic  lockdowns.
And Fauci is still there at every  update.
That's because your blind hate refuses to allow you to see what is happening externally.
Fauci is a necessary evil, he will be the target of the media if anything goes wrong because he is such an arrogant POS that wanted to be emperor. He refuses to relinquish the limelight, and Trump is using his ego to his advantage.

While Fauci plays the fool as a distraction, Trump just secured India as this century's biggest ally. Both China and Russia had been grooming India for decades, then Trump shows up, holds up the Indian people and their leader as saviors of humanity, and BAMMM, Trump secured a great new ally and I'm glad he did.

Dude, you really need to take of your blinders of hate, Trump is changing the world for good, and you're missing history as it's being made.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 12, 2020, 07:48:43 AM
Death Certificates  17 min. long but very good about facts and data.
Gets very good after min. 1.44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Sauce on April 12, 2020, 08:33:40 AM
and now for something really scary......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le_rfTdayLs&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le_rfTdayLs&feature=emb_logo)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2020, 12:46:48 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: We Chinee, no racist...

https://twitter.com/DonnieDoesWorld/status/1249356804137660417
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 12, 2020, 02:59:49 PM
I think im in love with Kristi Noem

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/09/knox-county-mayor-slams-statewide-stay-at-home-order/

South Dakota Republican Gov. Kristi Noem made the same case in resisting calls to join governors across the nation implementing similar orders. Noem argued that it was a public responsibility to act in accordance with the guidelines issued by public health authorities rather than impose the recommendations into through executive action.

"The people themselves are primarily responsible for their safety," Noem said. "They are free to exercise their rights to work, to worship and to play or to even stay home or to conduct social distancing."

She  has  my respect. If  i had billions to spend  like  Bloomberg  i would  fund  her campaign as an independent on the  conservative  party  ticket  if she  chose to run
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on April 12, 2020, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 12, 2020, 05:17:42 AM
None of that tells  me anything about when trump will end the  idiotic  lockdowns.
What has Trump locked down?

Quote
And Fauci is still there at every  update.
So?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 12, 2020, 03:23:00 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 12, 2020, 03:18:40 PM
What has Trump locked down?
So?
Must be easier to blame Trump for everything than to actually look what has been closed that has him bent out of shape and then research who closed it. Then he would know who to blame.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 12, 2020, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 12, 2020, 03:18:40 PM
What has Trump locked down?
So?

Come on, you cant be  that  obtuse. Trump issued  guidelines saying there should  NOT be gathering  of  10 or  more  people and that  NO ONE should  visit  a  restaurant  or  bar. The  governors are taking those  guidelines and running  with them to an extreme and  i have  yet to hear trump criticise any of  it. And  you  may not care if fauci continues to advise trump. I do. Fuaci isnt hurt  by any amount  of  misery  he  causes.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on April 12, 2020, 03:29:41 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 12, 2020, 03:26:30 PM
Come on, you cant be  that  obtuse. Trump issued  guidelines saying there should  NOT be gathering  of  10 or  more  people and that  NO ONE should  visit  a  restaurant  or  bar. The  governors are taking those  guidelines and running  with them to an extreme and  i have  yet to hear trump criticise any of  it. And  you  may not care if fauci continues to advise trump. I do. Fuaci isnt hurt  by any amount  of  misery  he  causes.

Where did he shut things down and ban products, like in Michigan?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 03:43:19 AM
Quote from: taxed on April 12, 2020, 03:29:41 PM
Where did he shut things down and ban products, like in Michigan?

As  i said the  governors ran with what  he said. He  is a grown man and  if  he wants to be re-elected and  if  he  disagrees with Whitmer he  can call her  out  any time  he wants.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 03:46:12 AM
I  mentioned  something  about the  supply chain shutting  down. This  might  be the  beginning,

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-pork-producer-shuts-key-173657598.html

"The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply," Smithfield's Chief Executive Officer Ken Sullivan said in the statement. "It is impossible to keep our grocery stores stocked if our plants are not running."

While it's unclear whether the meat-employee infections have anything to do with the workplaces, the news exposes the vulnerability of global supply chains that are needed to keep grocers stocked after panic buying left shelves empty. The shuttered plants and sick workers are adding to other disruptions caused by the virus that's making it harder for food to get from farm to table. Trucking bottlenecks, and snarled port traffic have also contributed to why shoppers are seeing empty shelves."

Its  not  going to take  much more  of this to bring everything to a screeching  halt.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2020, 04:15:05 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 03:46:12 AM
I  mentioned  something  about the  supply chain shutting  down. This  might  be the  beginning,

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-pork-producer-shuts-key-173657598.html

"The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply," Smithfield's Chief Executive Officer Ken Sullivan said in the statement. "It is impossible to keep our grocery stores stocked if our plants are not running."

While it's unclear whether the meat-employee infections have anything to do with the workplaces, the news exposes the vulnerability of global supply chains that are needed to keep grocers stocked after panic buying left shelves empty. The shuttered plants and sick workers are adding to other disruptions caused by the virus that's making it harder for food to get from farm to table. Trucking bottlenecks, and snarled port traffic have also contributed to why shoppers are seeing empty shelves."

Its  not  going to take  much more  of this to bring everything to a screeching  halt.
Aren't you the guy who said it was nothing more than a flu, and now you're peddling a doomsday outlook?

Which is it lib?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 05:43:00 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2020, 04:15:05 AM
Aren't you the guy who said it was nothing more than a flu, and now you're peddling a doomsday outlook?

Which is it lib?

Yea  and  im going to be right. However, its everyone else  who is  peddaling fear and  panic and the supply chain is  going to shut  down if we stay under house arrest.

Here is a  hopeful sign. I urge you to join the freedom lovers.

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
·
15m
Now this is viral growth: a North Carolina Facebook group called #ReopenNC began last Thursday and has 21,000 members already; it is calling for a protest tomorrow. North Carolina, population 10.4 million, has 81 #COVID deaths and 331 people hospitalized.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2020, 07:15:45 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 05:43:00 AM
Yea  and  im going to be right. However, its everyone else  who is  peddaling fear and  panic and the supply chain is  going to shut  down if we stay under house arrest.

Here is a  hopeful sign. I urge you to join the freedom lovers.

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
·
15m
Now this is viral growth: a North Carolina Facebook group called #ReopenNC began last Thursday and has 21,000 members already; it is calling for a protest tomorrow. North Carolina, population 10.4 million, has 81 #COVID deaths and 331 people hospitalized.
You're not only a hypocrite, you're a liar!!!
First you claim it's only a flu, and now you're advocating supply chain collapse. Dude, you are as transparent as air.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 07:34:04 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2020, 07:15:45 AM
You're not only a hypocrite, you're a liar!!!
First you claim it's only a flu, and now you're advocating supply chain collapse. Dude, you are as transparent as air.

I will have to disagree with you. you  know  i have  been saying the fear  mongers are causing the  panic and that will cause our  freedoms  to disappear. I  seem to be  more  concerned with freedom than anyone else  on here. And speaking  of  freedom, one  more  down the  drain

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
Meanwhile, a Massachusetts city of 93,000 has ordered a nighttime lockdown for all residents (who knew that #SARSCoV2 spreads better at night?).

I don't even know what to say anymore.

And another civil liberty  down the  drain. And you  people  on here actually think these  people are  just  going to give  up being  dictators? They love it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2020, 07:57:44 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 07:34:04 AM
I will have to disagree with you. you  know  i have  been saying the fear  mongers are causing the  panic and that will cause our  freedoms  to disappear. I  seem to be  more  concerned with freedom than anyone else  on here. And speaking  of  freedom, one  more  down the  drain

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
Meanwhile, a Massachusetts city of 93,000 has ordered a nighttime lockdown for all residents (who knew that #SARSCoV2 spreads better at night?).

I don't even know what to say anymore.

And another civil liberty  down the  drain. And you  people  on here actually think these  people are  just  going to give  up being  dictators? They love it.
Which is it lib, freedoms, or a collapsed supply chain? You claim supply chains are shutting down because of a a virus no worse than the flu, and in another breath claim the govt is stealing freedoms.
What's your solution?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 13, 2020, 10:09:50 AM
This virus seems to be very poorly understood. It can peak then fall away and then rise again. People that had the virus are tested free of it after dealing with the illness only to become infected again. Vaccines may not be the answer. Maybe it is Gods punishment on humans for electing godless people like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Trump and Netanyahu.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2020, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 13, 2020, 10:09:50 AM
This virus seems to be very poorly understood. It can peak then fall away and then rise again. People that had the virus are tested free of it after dealing with the illness only to become infected again. Vaccines may not be the answer. Maybe it is Gods punishment on humans for electing godless people like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Trump and Netanyahu.
Orrrr, could it be the CCP is solely to blame for infecting the entire world? Yeah, that's the only answer, commie scum!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 13, 2020, 01:18:14 PM
Are  hospitals themselves the worst  place to be?

https://medium.com/@tepper_jonathan/ground-zero-when-the-cure-is-worse-than-the-disease-3c513d91393d

"We are learning that hospitals might be the main Covid-19 carriers," they wrote. "They are rapidly populated by infected patients, facilitating transmission to uninfected patients."
"It's like a cesspool...It's now spreading throughout the hospital"
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 13, 2020, 06:30:16 PM
Quote from: Prospector on April 13, 2020, 10:09:50 AM
This virus seems to be very poorly understood. It can peak then fall away and then rise again. People that had the virus are tested free of it after dealing with the illness only to become infected again. Vaccines may not be the answer. Maybe it is Gods punishment on humans for electing godless people like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Trump and Netanyahu.

The virus is "poorly understood" because it has become politicized. With that, comes disinformation, which blur the lines of distinction between fact and fiction. Hence, a confused people are easily manipulated.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2020, 08:58:01 PM
WHO Official Says She Suspected Human-To-Human COVID-19 Transmission 'Right From The Start' — But The WHO Echoed Misleading Chinese Claims To The Contrary For Weeks

A World Health Organization official said Monday that she suspected human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus "right from the start," beginning on Dec. 31, 2019.

But WHO officials echoed Chinese authorities and denied any suggestion of human-to-human transmission for weeks after Dec. 31. Chinese doctors, meanwhile, were reported to have known for weeks prior that the virus could be transmitted between humans.

"Right from the start, from the first notification we received on the 31st of December, given that this was a cluster of pneumonia — I'm a MERS specialist, so my background is in coronaviruses and influenza — so immediately thought, given that this is a respiratory pathogen, that of course there may be human-to-human transmission," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove said in a press briefing Monday.

Despite Van Kerkhove's apparent suspicions, the WHO repeated Chinese authorities' downplaying the possibility that the virus could spread between people.



https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/13/world-health-organization-human-transmission-timeline-china-covid19-coronavirus/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Sauce on April 14, 2020, 05:05:08 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 13, 2020, 08:58:01 PM
WHO Official Says She Suspected Human-To-Human COVID-19 Transmission 'Right From The Start' — But The WHO Echoed Misleading Chinese Claims To The Contrary For Weeks

A World Health Organization official said Monday that she suspected human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus "right from the start," beginning on Dec. 31, 2019.

But WHO officials echoed Chinese authorities and denied any suggestion of human-to-human transmission for weeks after Dec. 31. Chinese doctors, meanwhile, were reported to have known for weeks prior that the virus could be transmitted between humans.

"Right from the start, from the first notification we received on the 31st of December, given that this was a cluster of pneumonia — I'm a MERS specialist, so my background is in coronaviruses and influenza — so immediately thought, given that this is a respiratory pathogen, that of course there may be human-to-human transmission," Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove said in a press briefing Monday.

Despite Van Kerkhove's apparent suspicions, the WHO repeated Chinese authorities' downplaying the possibility that the virus could spread between people.



https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/13/world-health-organization-human-transmission-timeline-china-covid19-coronavirus/


The WHO - We wont get fooled again
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2020, 06:16:57 AM
Quote from: Sauce on April 14, 2020, 05:05:08 AM

The WHO - We wont get fooled again

Oooh, Excellent choice of words. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2020, 07:55:53 AM

Coronavirus can survive long exposure to high temperature, a threat to lab staff around world: paper


The new coronavirus can survive long exposure to high temperatures, according to an experiment by a team of French scientists.
Professor Remi Charrel and colleagues at the Aix-Marseille University in southern France heated the virus that causes Covid-19 to 60 degrees Celsius (140 Fahrenheit) for an hour and found that some strains were still able to replicate.
The scientists had to bring the temperature to almost boiling point to kill the virus completely, according to their non-peer-reviewed paper released on bioRxiv.org on Saturday. The results have implications for the safety of lab technicians working with the virus.
The team in France infected African green monkey kidney cells, a standard host material for viral activity tests, with a strain isolated from a patient in Berlin, Germany. The cells were loaded into tubes representing two different types of environments, one "clean" and the other "dirty" with animal proteins to simulate biological contamination in real-life samples, such as an oral swab.
After the heating, the viral strains in the clean environment were thoroughly deactivated. Some strains in the dirty samples, however, survived.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1520602-20200414.htm
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2020, 01:38:29 PM
Why Doesn't Flu Tank Economy Like Covid-19?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVlKqT4XgAAwqKK?format=jpg&name=large)


https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-doesnt-flu-tank-economy-like-covid-19-11586511000
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 14, 2020, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 14, 2020, 01:38:29 PM
Why Doesn't Flu Tank Economy Like Covid-19?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVlKqT4XgAAwqKK?format=jpg&name=large)


https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-doesnt-flu-tank-economy-like-covid-19-11586511000
Hope everyone can read that chart.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2020, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: Possum on April 14, 2020, 01:45:13 PM
Hope everyone can read that chart.  :popcorn:
But, but, but it's no worse than the flu, anyway, according to Ldub :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 14, 2020, 01:57:47 PM
Quote from: Possum on April 14, 2020, 01:45:13 PM
Hope everyone can read that chart.  :popcorn:

Use CTRL and + it will make the print bigger if needed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 14, 2020, 02:16:49 PM
(https://scontent.forf1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/93169852_10163189406690433_3010286657292206080_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_oc=AQlBYwqsNp2bfb-FXLpHAOjbr79io5J8mk19haEh9L8VKX9B7RbkEhFt_AgLzVXY7D0EjqT3_P29dyS05SX_E30_&_nc_ht=scontent.forf1-3.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=f4493333dbe66d0469a6259ff73eb97c&oe=5EBB32FC)

I think that  qualifies as  number  padding. "Presumed"? And  it states rather  clearly there  was  NO positive test.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2020, 07:10:32 AM
https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/1250176943196160002
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 15, 2020, 12:11:55 PM
Quote from: Possum on April 14, 2020, 01:45:13 PM
Hope everyone can read that chart.  :popcorn:

What chart??  :laugh:
Quote from: Solar on April 15, 2020, 07:10:32 AM
https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/1250176943196160002
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2020, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: WMK on April 15, 2020, 12:11:55 PM
What chart??  :laugh:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVlKqT4XgAAwqKK?format=jpg&name=large
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 15, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
A leading cause of death in the United States: Several weeks ago, coronavirus deaths were few in comparison with other causes. But last week, reported U.S. Covid-19 deaths were just shy of the normal rate from heart disease, usually the leading cause of death.
More than all typical deaths in New York: Strikingly, in the state of New York, the number of people who died with coronavirus last week was more than any other cause of death — in fact, more than twice the average number who die in a week from all causes combined.
In the worst week of the 2017-18 flu season, New York saw 218 deaths from flu and pneumonia and 2,098 total from all causes. Last week, the state saw 4,694 reported Covid-19 deaths alone. These figures must put to rest the "dying with but not of" line of skepticism. The idea that this many people would have died anyway even without Covid-19 is simply not credible.
Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend — most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.
Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history. Nor do we need to dispute projections about future deaths to recognize what has happened already. Amid the statistical noise is a powerful signal. The question is whether we choose to see it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2020, 01:58:16 PM
Quote from: Prospector on April 15, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
A leading cause of death in the United States: Several weeks ago, coronavirus deaths were few in comparison with other causes. But last week, reported U.S. Covid-19 deaths were just shy of the normal rate from heart disease, usually the leading cause of death.
More than all typical deaths in New York: Strikingly, in the state of New York, the number of people who died with coronavirus last week was more than any other cause of death — in fact, more than twice the average number who die in a week from all causes combined.
In the worst week of the 2017-18 flu season, New York saw 218 deaths from flu and pneumonia and 2,098 total from all causes. Last week, the state saw 4,694 reported Covid-19 deaths alone. These figures must put to rest the "dying with but not of" line of skepticism. The idea that this many people would have died anyway even without Covid-19 is simply not credible.
Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend — most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.
Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history. Nor do we need to dispute projections about future deaths to recognize what has happened already. Amid the statistical noise is a powerful signal. The question is whether we choose to see it.
I don't disagree with your post, just wanted to add a caveat.

A coroner friend of mine once told me that almost all "Causes of Death" are mere guesses, since less than 0.1% of deaths actually under go autopsy.
He said most cases are due to family members guessing the cause of death. He also said all heart death claims are bogus, since the last thing to stop working is the heart, the coroner usually states the cause of death as heart failure.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: shhh on April 16, 2020, 02:41:25 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 15, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
A leading cause of death in the United States: Several weeks ago, coronavirus deaths were few in comparison with other causes. But last week, reported U.S. Covid-19 deaths were just shy of the normal rate from heart disease, usually the leading cause of death.
More than all typical deaths in New York: Strikingly, in the state of New York, the number of people who died with coronavirus last week was more than any other cause of death — in fact, more than twice the average number who die in a week from all causes combined.
In the worst week of the 2017-18 flu season, New York saw 218 deaths from flu and pneumonia and 2,098 total from all causes. Last week, the state saw 4,694 reported Covid-19 deaths alone. These figures must put to rest the "dying with but not of" line of skepticism. The idea that this many people would have died anyway even without Covid-19 is simply not credible.
Any serious attempt to put coronavirus deaths in context by comparing it to some other cause of death in a previous year must acknowledge the marked differences in the Covid-19 trend — most notably, the rapid spike in deaths that is still underway, and the wide range of uncertainty about when it will peak, how high it will peak, and whether it will peak only once. As long as the pandemic is rapidly spreading, these comparisons will be fraught.
Perhaps a better way to state the danger posed by the coronavirus is just that we cannot easily compare it to any precedent in recent history. Nor do we need to dispute projections about future deaths to recognize what has happened already. Amid the statistical noise is a powerful signal. The question is whether we choose to see it.
The Democrats have a vested interest in keeping our nation as chaotic as possible going into the 2020 Election.  Rather telling that the Dem Governors went to extremes with the lock down.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 16, 2020, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: shhh on April 16, 2020, 02:41:25 AM
The Democrats have a vested interest in keeping our nation as chaotic as possible going into the 2020 Election.  Rather telling that the Dem Governors went to extremes with the lock down.

Its  up to Trump to make that a campaign issue. Open up and  blame  democrats when they stay closed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on April 16, 2020, 05:13:51 PM
Bongino's show today: China restricted travel from Wuhan to other parts of China, but didn't restrict travel from Wuhan to other countries????  WTF?

I wish I were a fly on the wall when Trump learned this.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2020, 06:01:03 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 16, 2020, 05:13:51 PM
Bongino's show today: China restricted travel from Wuhan to other parts of China, but didn't restrict travel from Wuhan to other countries????  WTF?

I wish I were a fly on the wall when Trump learned this.
The moment I saw what China was doing, I wondered if Trump got on the phone to all of our allies and said, "Don't let them in"!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 16, 2020, 06:44:23 PM
Who cares what China, Spain, Korea, Obama, Clinton, etc , etc , etc , etc did or did not do (always some else's fault) it does not matter much now. It is here and we need to get control of it no matter what it takes. It is a war against this thing so stop the whining and do what needs to be done. Economies around the world have been destroyed in modern times and have recovered. If we can work together everyone will have food and shelter but you may not have your new truck, car, TV, rifle, cottage, etc , etc , etc next year.  Also if you are one of the people that can't see the forest because of the trees and think this is just a bit of a harsh flu watch a Sky News documentary about 45 minutes long called-  Coronavirus: Into the Red Zone.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Prospector on April 16, 2020, 06:44:23 PM
Who cares what China, Spain, Korea, Obama, Clinton, etc , etc , etc , etc did or did not do (always some else's fault) it does not matter much now. It is here and we need to get control of it no matter what it takes. It is a war against this thing so stop the whining and do what needs to be done. Economies around the world have been destroyed in modern times and have recovered. If we can work together everyone will have food and shelter but you may not have your new truck, car, TV, rifle, cottage, etc , etc , etc next year.  Also if you are one of the people that can't see the forest because of the trees and think this is just a bit of a harsh flu watch a Sky News documentary about 45 minutes long called-  Coronavirus: Into the Red Zone.
Are you living under a rock? China is our enemy, far more than any other country, even Iran isn't as big a threat as the CCP. They are not our friends and we need to destroy them!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on April 16, 2020, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: Prospector on April 16, 2020, 06:44:23 PM
Who cares what China, Spain, Korea, Obama, Clinton, etc , etc , etc , etc did or did not do (always some else's fault) it does not matter much now. It is here and we need to get control of it no matter what it takes. It is a war against this thing so stop the whining and do what needs to be done. Economies around the world have been destroyed in modern times and have recovered. If we can work together everyone will have food and shelter but you may not have your new truck, car, TV, rifle, cottage, etc , etc , etc next year.  Also if you are one of the people that can't see the forest because of the trees and think this is just a bit of a harsh flu watch a Sky News documentary about 45 minutes long called-  Coronavirus: Into the Red Zone.

You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2020, 07:00:52 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 16, 2020, 06:54:51 PM
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?
I think the only news he gets is leftist CBC, CNN, and BBC in Canada.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 17, 2020, 04:58:25 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 16, 2020, 06:44:23 PM
Who cares what China, Spain, Korea, Obama, Clinton, etc , etc , etc , etc did or did not do (always some else's fault) it does not matter much now. It is here and we need to get control of it no matter what it takes. It is a war against this thing so stop the whining and do what needs to be done. Economies around the world have been destroyed in modern times and have recovered. If we can work together everyone will have food and shelter but you may not have your new truck, car, TV, rifle, cottage, etc , etc , etc next year.  Also if you are one of the people that can't see the forest because of the trees and think this is just a bit of a harsh flu watch a Sky News documentary about 45 minutes long called-  Coronavirus: Into the Red Zone.

Without COVID-19, China still exist. Without China, COVID-19 does not exist.
Unless you get to the root of a problem, its symptoms are likely to re-occur time and again.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on April 17, 2020, 05:16:12 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 16, 2020, 06:44:23 PM
Who cares what China, Spain, Korea, Obama, Clinton, etc , etc , etc , etc did or did not do (always some else's fault) it does not matter much now. It is here and we need to get control of it no matter what it takes. It is a war against this thing so stop the whining and do what needs to be done. Economies around the world have been destroyed in modern times and have recovered. If we can work together everyone will have food and shelter but you may not have your new truck, car, TV, rifle, cottage, etc , etc , etc next year.  Also if you are one of the people that can't see the forest because of the trees and think this is just a bit of a harsh flu watch a Sky News documentary about 45 minutes long called-  Coronavirus: Into the Red Zone.

Okay, what does it matter now Hillary. History repeats itself because of people like you. It matters so this shit doesn't happen again.

You're a special kind of stupid.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 17, 2020, 05:18:01 AM
Quote from: taxed on April 16, 2020, 06:54:51 PM
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

It's worst than that. It's exactly the kind of commentary communists want to hear.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2020, 05:53:20 AM
Dems Defend China Despite Bombshell Taiwan Letter Pointing To COVID-19 Cover-Up By Beijing & WHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xSEOvKIbQc
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 05:57:00 AM
You people are so afraid of just about everything. If its not white Anglo Saxon you are terrified of it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2020, 06:12:53 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 05:57:00 AM
You people are so afraid of just about everything. If its not white Anglo Saxon you are terrified of it.
Stop assuming everyone on the right is white. Talk about fuckin ignorant racists, thanks for exposing just what you are, and you morons wonder why you're losing worldwide...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 06:17:45 AM
Poor Solar must be living in constant fear. Paranoid about everything he cannot understand which is a lot.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2020, 06:25:01 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 06:17:45 AM
Poor Solar must be living in constant fear. Paranoid about everything he cannot understand which is a lot.
Getting personal is proof you've lost the debate. I exposed you for what you are, a racist lib and your response proves you have nothing beyond hate.
Pull this shit again and you're out of here.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2020, 08:02:23 AM
Tying It All Together: China, Dr. Fauci, French Company Sanofi Pasteur, George Soros and the Gates Foundation

In Steps Dr. Fauci and French Company Sanofi Pasteur
In 2006 there was an H5N1 outbreak in Asia and by June, human to human transmission was confirmed but no one in the US was infected at that time.  In response, the New York Department of Health concocted a response to this "pandemic."  In a complete 180 from what is being done today, Dr. Anthony Fauci who has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) since 1984, and New York City Mayor Bloomberg, recommended against a mandatory quarantine.

Soon after, in 2007, Dr. Fauci personally licensed and saw to the performance of clinical trials to create a vaccine for the H5N1 pandemic that was previously declared by Fauci.  The company that Fauci worked with to create and stockpile a vaccine for the avian flu was Sanofi Pasteur:

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The FDA has licensed Sanofi Pasteur's H5N1 vaccine, the first avian flu vaccine for humans. Sanofi Pasteur, in collaboration with the National Institutes of Health, submitted a BLA to the FDA for the vaccine. The licensure is the first step in achieving the government's goal of stockpiling vaccine to protect those who are at increased risk of exposure to the H5N1 flu virus contained in the vaccine during the early stages of a pandemic.

Fast forward to February 18, 2020, as America was preparing for the China coronavirus, the HHS engaged Sanofi Pasteur to help develop a coronavirus vaccine.  At the same time and through April, Dr. Fauci was arguing against the use of hydroxychloroquine as a cure for the China coronavirus:

The White House coronavirus task force had its biggest fight yet on Saturday, pitting economic adviser Peter Navarro against infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci. At issue: How enthusiastically should the White House tout the prospects of an antimalarial drug to fight COVID-19?

Peter Navaro reportedly was very angry with Fauci and supplied folders of studies showing how the anti-malaria drug worked against the coronavirus.   Navaro also reminded all in the room that it was Dr. Fauci who argued against President Trump's travel ban with China in January.

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Sanofi Pasteur and George Soros
Sanofi Pasteur is related to one of the very first western labs located in the Republic of China.  One of it's investors is George Soros.

Soros also invests in a company in Wuhan, China, where the Coronavirus outbreak began.  That company is called Wuxi AppTech, which just so happens, they develop vaccines too.  This company is also related to the former Head of the China Communist Party, Jiang Zemin.

One of the Vice President's of French company Sanofi quit his job, and went to Wuxi AppTech.  Raymond J. Fitch also known as RJ, left Sanofi Pasteur, to serve as Vice President of manufacturing at Wuxi AppTech.

MORE~~~~

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/tying-together-china-dr-fauci-french-company-sanofi-pasteur-george-soros-gates-foundation/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 09:32:13 AM
Me getting personal!!  Look back at what you have been posting.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2020, 10:06:11 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 09:32:13 AM
Me getting personal!!  Look back at what you have been posting.
At least I have the balls to post actual facts, it's you that get personal when you get your ass handed to you.

If you can't debate, then this isn't the forum for you!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on April 17, 2020, 10:15:51 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 05:57:00 AM
You people are so afraid of just about everything. If its not white Anglo Saxon you are terrified of it.

Hank Johnson is that you.......?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2020, 11:01:10 AM
When the bad news comes. :lol:
Watch all the way through...

https://twitter.com/cctvidiots/status/1251124712274423808
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
Where is the proof of your so called facts. Probably from some alien conspiracy blog.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2020, 01:41:59 PM
Quote from: Prospector on April 17, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
Where is the proof of your so called facts. Probably from some alien conspiracy blog.
So you admit you ignore what I post? You aren't even a good troll, so don't even attempt this game with me, if you have some solid evidence to your claim, post it, otherwise stop wasting our time.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: redbeard on April 17, 2020, 02:40:28 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2020, 01:41:59 PM
So you admit you ignore what I post? You aren't even a good troll, so don't even attempt this game with me, if you have some solid evidence to your claim, post it, otherwise stop wasting our time.
I see the numbers of Deaths climbing every day and today had a thought! With all the stay at home and social distancing what has happened to the yearly flu death rate? It has to be down! Be an interesting number to see. does it offset some of these really bad numbers of cov19 deaths? :confused:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2020, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: redbeard on April 17, 2020, 02:40:28 PM
I see the numbers of Deaths climbing every day and today had a thought! With all the stay at home and social distancing what has happened to the yearly flu death rate? It has to be down! Be an interesting number to see. does it offset some of these really bad numbers of cov19 deaths? :confused:
Taxed and I were talking about that. The fact that no one is transmitting the flu, it might just end its cycle for a time. Wouldn't that be cool? :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 18, 2020, 02:59:41 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2020, 04:50:29 PM
Taxed and I were talking about that. The fact that no one is transmitting the flu, it might just end its cycle for a time. Wouldn't that be cool? :biggrin:

Or how about the 'bundle theory'; every virus having symptoms mimicking COVID-19 (or vise-versa) in one form or another is concluded to be COVID-19.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2020, 04:59:33 AM
Quote from: WMK on April 18, 2020, 02:59:41 AM
Or how about the 'bundle theory'; every virus having symptoms mimicking COVID-19 (or vise-versa) in one form or another is concluded to be COVID-19.
Either way, they avoided other people and people wore masks, in the end, nipping this in the bud instead of making another circle around the globe.
Not only do I not know a single person who contracted the Chinese Virus, I don't know anyone that caught the flu and everyone I've talked to said the same, they don't know anyone personally, that caught anything.

Point being twofold, one being the virus was isolated to urban areas and two, the flu never got a chance to actually spread and circumnavigate the globe this year. Maybe next year will be almost nonexistent?

We're seeing a global experiment taking place, one of an historic nature.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 18, 2020, 11:32:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2020, 04:59:33 AM
Either way, they avoided other people and people wore masks, in the end, nipping this in the bud instead of making another circle around the globe.
Not only do I not know a single person who contracted the Chinese Virus, I don't know anyone that caught the flu and everyone I've talked to said the same, they don't know anyone personally, that caught anything.

Point being twofold, one being the virus was isolated to urban areas and two, the flu never got a chance to actually spread and circumnavigate the globe this year. Maybe next year will be almost nonexistent?

We're seeing a global experiment taking place, one of an historic nature.

Throughout this entire experience a Yiddish proverb keeps coming to mind:
Man makes his plans and God laughs!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2020, 12:58:02 PM
Quote from: WMK on April 18, 2020, 11:32:10 AM
Throughout this entire experience a Yiddish proverb keeps coming to mind:
Man makes his plans and God laughs!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Soooo True!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2020, 05:51:11 AM
https://twitter.com/bencoates1/status/1251069853408153600
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on April 19, 2020, 07:46:48 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2020, 05:51:11 AM
https://twitter.com/bencoates1/status/1251069853408153600

OOPPS!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 19, 2020, 07:57:02 AM
I have read some of your posts but have seen no proof at all. Lots of opinions but no proof. Because someone writes a blog or creates a chart or website does not mean it is true.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2020, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 19, 2020, 07:57:02 AM
I have read some of your posts but have seen no proof at all. Lots of opinions but no proof. Because someone writes a blog or creates a chart or website does not mean it is true.
Then it's up to you to prove us wrong, isn't it? But we both know you won't try because you know we have no reason to lie, that's a leftist trait!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 19, 2020, 12:44:10 PM
You say prove us wrong. Who is "us"?  Not every conservative is your "us".  Paranoia abounds within your "us" but it is not everywhere.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2020, 02:48:00 PM
Quote from: Prospector on April 19, 2020, 12:44:10 PM
You say prove us wrong. Who is "us"?  Not every conservative is your "us".  Paranoia abounds within your "us" but it is not everywhere.
The Right in general dumb ass! Everything you've posted comes from leftist talking points, not one of which is based in fact.
There's a huge difference in the left and Right, had you not noticed. The left is always guilty of the things they claim we do, or had you not noticed that yet? And if you haven't yet pieced it together, they you love being willfully ignorant.
First you need to be your own skeptic, learn the difference between editorial piece and actual fact, because everything the left claims are based in the first.

Like I said, post one thing Trump is actually guilty of, just one. But like I said, you can't, they are all fabrications! But I'll wait while you scour the web.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 19, 2020, 05:15:51 PM
The Right in general is not you. You are part of the Right but on the fringe. Go talk to average conservatives not just the ones on the edge like you. It is relatively easy to gather a few hundred fringers for a protest or rally because that is their thing and it can make the news too. Why do you think there is not a 1/2 million or 2 million?   By the way you still have not provided actual proof of anything I have seen in your posts but maybe I missed one.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2020, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: Prospector on April 19, 2020, 05:15:51 PM
The Right in general is not you. You are part of the Right but on the fringe. Go talk to average conservatives not just the ones on the edge like you. It is relatively easy to gather a few hundred fringers for a protest or rally because that is their thing and it can make the news too. Why do you think there is not a 1/2 million or 2 million?
The Right is the majority! You think I'm fringe, seriously? I'm just older and wiser...:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

QuoteBy the way you still have not provided actual proof of anything I have seen in your posts but maybe I missed one.

Pick one and prove me wrong. But we all know you can't, that's what you want me to do your work for you.
It's akin to my claiming water is wet and fire is hot, it's all common knowledge. Though, with the exception of idiot libs. Is that the category you like living in, too stupid to recognize certain truths?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2020, 04:39:47 AM
COVID-19 Made in China!

In a major development Luc Montagnier, a Nobel Prize winning French virologist has confirmed the study conducted by Indian scientists concluding that COVID-19 was engineered with HIV (AIDS) like insertions. Readers of GreatGameIndia would remember that after we published the results of the study, it attracted heavy criticism from social media experts to an extent that even the authors were forced to retract their paper. The Nobel laureate's confirmation has put all such amateur criticism to rest.

The French virologist Luc Montagnier was rewarded in 2008 with a Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery of the AIDS virus. In an interview with Why doctor?, on April 16, the professor explained that he does not believe that the COVID-19 came from a contamination in a market of wild animals of Wuhan. "It is a beautiful myth, it is not possible. The virus came out of a Wuhan laboratory" he said.

The French free-to-air news channel CNews reported Luc Montagnier saying:

"The Wuhan city laboratory has specialized in these coronaviruses since the early 2000s. They have expertise in this area," he says. The professor explains having analyzed "in the smallest details" the sequence with his mathematician colleague Jean-Claude Perrez. "We were not the first, since a group of Indian researchers tried to publish a study which shows that the complete genome of this coronavirus [has] sequences of another virus, which is HIV, the virus AIDS".

https://greatgameindia.com/nobel-prize-winner-french-virologist-confirm-covid-19-hiv-study/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 20, 2020, 08:49:03 AM
You are very quick to believe anything as long as it fits your thought pattern.
The Indian researchers work was invalidated fairly soon after their report was done and the report barely saw the light of day. Montagnier's claim is widely disputed among scientists and researchers as it is based on very little research and needs much further work to verify or not.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Prospector on April 20, 2020, 08:50:21 AM
I am not saying he is wrong but that it is too soon to know for sure.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2020, 10:04:55 AM
Quote from: Prospector on April 20, 2020, 08:49:03 AM
You are very quick to believe anything as long as it fits your thought pattern.
The Indian researchers work was invalidated fairly soon after their report was done and the report barely saw the light of day. Montagnier's claim is widely disputed among scientists and researchers as it is based on very little research and needs much further work to verify or not.
Typical lib, just believe whatever narrative China feeds our media. The idea is to post all news, not just what fits the narrative of the day because researchers will be battling this one for years to come.
Point is, they're shedding light on every possibility, and the scientist that discovered the HIV, knows more about it than most lay people, including you and I.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on April 20, 2020, 10:19:53 AM
Excellent interview with Kyle Bass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exASOIXH8So
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on April 20, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
At 22:00 is an important segment in the above Kyle Bass interview about medical supplies made in China...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 21, 2020, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 20, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
At 22:00 is an important segment in the above Kyle Bass interview about medical supplies made in China...

Don't tell Governor Pritzker about this. China is his main supplier.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2020, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: taxed on April 20, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
At 22:00 is an important segment in the above Kyle Bass interview about medical supplies made in China...
Translation: China is about to enter in its worst depression in its entire history.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on April 22, 2020, 06:55:43 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2020, 01:33:10 PM
Translation: China is about to enter in its worst depression in its entire history.

Hot mic at White House Press–    0:02 "You can take off the mask". 0:12  'We're all vaccinated anyway'.  0:48 "So it's a Hoax".....?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3NYXJE-oe8




Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2020, 11:54:34 AM
There's a pretty good chance the wife and I already caught it. Same exact symptoms, still have that damn dry cough months later.

Timeline reset: CDC confirms weeks-earlier California deaths

Two people with the coronavirus died in California as many as three weeks before the U.S. reported its first death from the disease in late February — a gap that a top health official said Wednesday may have led to delays in imposing stay-at-home restrictions in the nation's most populous state.

Dr. Sara Cody, health director in Northern California's Santa Clara County, said the deaths were missed because of a scarcity of testing and the federal government's limited guidance on who should be tested.

"If we had had widespread testing earlier and we were able to document the level of transmission in the county, if we had understood then people were already dying, yes, we probably would have acted earlier than we did," she said.

The infections in the two patients were confirmed by way of post-mortem tissue samples that were sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for analysis.

The deaths in early and mid-February show that the virus was spreading in California well before officials realized it and that outbreaks were underway in at least two parts of the country at about the same time.

https://apnews.com/c508cfec44ba9b4b8b23e83a443aa0d7
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 26, 2020, 03:14:25 PM
What happens when you're you're hungry in a socialist country?

https://twitter.com/ConflictsW/status/1253427548144336896
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 26, 2020, 05:08:20 PM
Whoever shot him TWICE is gonna be in real trouble, wasting the States bullets, KOMRADE when one would have done fine. Next they'll take a cue from the Khmer Rouge and beat people to death with crow bars or put plastic bags on their heads, rocks in their clothes and throw them in the river....the less people the more food.....
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 26, 2020, 06:28:54 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 26, 2020, 05:08:20 PM
Whoever shot him TWICE is gonna be in real trouble, wasting the States bullets, KOMRADE when one would have done fine. Next they'll take a cue from the Khmer Rouge and beat people to death with crow bars or put plastic bags on their heads, rocks in their clothes and throw them in the river....the less people the more food.....
Yep, pikers. China uses viruses for crowd control and over population.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 27, 2020, 07:03:45 AM
If true, Cuomo is in serious trouble politically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=464&v=VUd8A4AOxFc&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Zouave on April 27, 2020, 05:05:37 PM
You put forward a highly disputed confirmation by  Montagnier without any proof that it is true. There is no way you can prove it is true but because it fits in to your preconceived ideas you believe it. You will not look at other possibilities or fact check because this story fits. Could be 100% wrong but that does not matter to you. You insist I must provide proof but it appears there is no need for you to do that.  Your post about Montagnier is proof of nothing.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 27, 2020, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: Zouave on April 27, 2020, 05:05:37 PM
You put forward a highly disputed confirmation by  Montagnier without any proof that it is true. There is no way you can prove it is true but because it fits in to your preconceived ideas you believe it. You will not look at other possibilities or fact check because this story fits. Could be 100% wrong but that does not matter to you. You insist I must provide proof but it appears there is no need for you to do that.  Your post about Montagnier is proof of nothing.
Use the  quote function, no one has a clue what you're talking about.
This is no longer a request, start using the quote.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 30, 2020, 06:45:25 AM
Just More Evidence China Made and spread this virus...

CHINA Stole Remdesivir from Gilead then Tried to Patent the Drug in January — Knowing Months Ago It Would Treat Coronavirus and Trying to Make Money off the Pandemic

Evidence suggests that the coronavirus was not from a Wuhan wet market but came from a lab in the city. We still don't know whether the deadly virus was leaked intentionally or if it was an accident.
But we do know that the Chinese attempted to market a cure for the coronavirus to the world in January after the virus began to spread.
China was going to cash in on their pandemic.

We reported earlier  in late March FOX News host Tucker Carlson reported on a CHINESE study in the Western press on the origin of the novel coronavirus. The study concluded the deadly virus came out of local laboratories in Hubei Province. The smoking gun in the study was the viral link to horseshoe bats which are not sold in local wet markets and are not native to Wuhan. In fact the closest colony is 900 kilometers away. There is no evidence horseshoe bats were sold in the Wuhan wet markets. The local labs used this bat specimen and the virus likely came from a lab in Wuhan.

(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/all-in-family-2.jpg)

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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 30, 2020, 08:38:10 AM
Im going to post this tweet  to demonstrate  why there will not  be a fast  bounce  back


Yossi Gestetner
@YossiGestetner
·
24m
.@MattWalshBlog
@Zigmanfreud
Why would anyone serve you in a retail shop for $500 a week in May-June when they can sit home for $800+ a week unemployment? I agree that the lockdowns caused a huge portion of the 30 million unemployed, but the $600/week from Congress made it worse!

Worse  indeed. I  dont  know  if  people are aware that  in addition to normal unemployment Trump and  congress are  paying  people an additional 600 a week not to work. Alot  of  people arent  going to be eager to work for  less than they can make  tax free  sitting at  home.
Congress and trump are equally to blame here. Trump has sided with democrats that govt is the solution and that means a very agonizingly slow recovery which wont help trump win re-election. Trump agrees with dems, pay people more than they can earn and why bother working. And dems will want the extra 600 extended indefinitely and  Trump cave and  do it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on April 30, 2020, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 30, 2020, 08:38:10 AM
Im going to post this tweet  to demonstrate  why there will not  be a fast  bounce  back


Yossi Gestetner
@YossiGestetner
·
24m
.@MattWalshBlog
@Zigmanfreud
Why would anyone serve you in a retail shop for $500 a week in May-June when they can sit home for $800+ a week unemployment? I agree that the lockdowns caused a huge portion of the 30 million unemployed, but the $600/week from Congress made it worse!

Worse  indeed. I  dont  know  if  people are aware that  in addition to normal unemployment Trump and  congress are  paying  people an additional 600 a week not to work. Alot  of  people arent  going to be eager to work for  less than they can make  tax free  sitting at  home.
Congress and trump are equally to blame here. Trump has sided with democrats that govt is the solution and that means a very agonizingly slow recovery which wont help trump win re-election. Trump agrees with dems, pay people more than they can earn and why bother working. And dems will want the extra 600 extended indefinitely and  Trump cave and  do it.


That's why I went ahead and retired at 62, because I made more on SS than working as an in-home health care worker...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 30, 2020, 08:53:38 AM
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on April 30, 2020, 08:41:25 AM

That's why I went ahead and retired at 62, because I made more on SS than working as an in-home health care worker...

I  have  no idea where this  fast  bounceback idea  came from. Just  not  going to happen. Trump is  completely  lost  now and  his  only anser seems more and  more  govt  money, i mean taxpayer money, no, i mean more  phony  money. Oh  and  i guarantee that trump isalso going to cave  on bailing  out states which takes away any incentive to re-open.  For  3+ years Trump unleashed the free market  and we  prospered and  now  he  has turned  his  back on it and we are going to suffer for  a very  very  long time
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on April 30, 2020, 09:10:11 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 30, 2020, 08:53:38 AM
I  have  no idea where this  fast  bounceback idea  came from. Just  not  going to happen. Trump is  completely  lost  now and  his  only anser seems more and  more  govt  money, i mean taxpayer money, no, i mean more  phony  money. Oh  and  i guarantee that trump isalso going to cave  on bailing  out states which takes away any incentive to re-open.  For  3+ years Trump unleashed the free market  and we  prospered and  now  he  has turned  his  back on it and we are going to suffer for  a very  very  long time


I could be way off here...   But, I sort of suspect that Trump plans on doing something where the slate is wiped clean, and we sort of start from scratch, and then he switches our monetary system...    But, who really KNOWS what's up his sleeve?  I KNOW he's got a plan, he just hasn't let us in on it yet.


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 30, 2020, 10:42:26 AM
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on April 30, 2020, 09:10:11 AM

I could be way off here...   But, I sort of suspect that Trump plans on doing something where the slate is wiped clean, and we sort of start from scratch, and then he switches our monetary system...    But, who really KNOWS what's up his sleeve?  I KNOW he's got a plan, he just hasn't let us in on it yet.

If  my plans  had worked  out  i would  be  married to Brooke right  now, the  most  beautiful girl that will ever  live, have a fortune  of  billions, and be  laughing at all the  locked down idiots while  i live  on my private  island. Trump might  have  some  secret  plan, lets hope so because  the  current  one sucks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 30, 2020, 03:48:42 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 30, 2020, 08:53:38 AM
I  have  no idea where this  fast  bounceback idea  came from. Just  not  going to happen. Trump is  completely  lost  now and  his  only anser seems more and  more  govt  money, i mean taxpayer money, no, i mean more  phony  money. Oh  and  i guarantee that trump isalso going to cave  on bailing  out states which takes away any incentive to re-open. For  3+ years Trump unleashed the free market  and we  prospered and  now  he  has turned  his  back on it and we are going to suffer for  a very  very  long time
Where do you get your "facts"? You can not back any of this up. Prove me wrong.
States are opening up because the American people are demanding it. Trump is demanding it. It was the states and cities that closed down businesses, Trump did not close anything. The stock market is coming back, the price of oil is coming back. People have not stopped believing in Trump. Damn, your posts tell me you are more scared than anyone I have seen out there.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 30, 2020, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 30, 2020, 08:53:38 AM
I  have  no idea where this  fast  bounceback idea  came from. Just  not  going to happen. Trump is  completely  lost  now and  his  only anser seems more and  more  govt  money, i mean taxpayer money, no, i mean more  phony  money. Oh  and  i guarantee that trump isalso going to cave  on bailing  out states which takes away any incentive to re-open.  For  3+ years Trump unleashed the free market  and we  prospered and  now  he  has turned  his  back on it and we are going to suffer for  a very  very  long time
Define "very  very  long time"...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 01, 2020, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 30, 2020, 08:53:38 AM
I  have  no idea where this  fast  bounceback idea  came from. Just  not  going to happen. Trump is  completely  lost  now and  his  only anser seems more and  more  govt  money, i mean taxpayer money, no, i mean more  phony  money. Oh  and  i guarantee that trump isalso going to cave  on bailing  out states which takes away any incentive to re-open.  For  3+ years Trump unleashed the free market  and we  prospered and  now  he  has turned  his  back on it and we are going to suffer for  a very  very  long time
https://www.dailywire.com/news/gallup-trump-approval-flips-reaches-record-high-among-independents
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 01, 2020, 05:41:20 PM
This is no pandemic.  It's a DEMPANIC.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 01, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 01, 2020, 05:41:20 PM
This is no pandemic.  It's a DEMPANIC.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 02, 2020, 05:20:34 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW-2vFLWsAEjQho?format=jpg&name=large)


Golly gee,  now the  CDC is saying  what  i have  been saying  for  weeks. Comparable to a severe  flu season but when the  actual number  of  infected the death rate  might  end  up lower than the flu and  it will be  comparable to a  mild season
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 02, 2020, 05:41:52 AM
(https://scontent.forf1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/95387717_10222864802711843_2734733482705027072_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_oc=AQkTA-gH_oB8PHRAIApvknDou4X2Vsxrx3VGBU8-0ORV-5sEKPSliUVQJiLK4NYS9d4ZKvGxnfXONwFGIiBC7qqp&_nc_ht=scontent.forf1-4.fna&oh=403c348b62742bc76a68d5b12f00b542&oe=5ED3BD52)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on May 02, 2020, 05:59:50 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 01, 2020, 05:41:20 PM
This is no pandemic.  It's a DEMPANIC.

Nicely done!!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 02, 2020, 06:29:14 AM
Quote from: Possum on April 30, 2020, 03:48:42 PM
Where do you get your "facts"? You can not back any of this up. Prove me wrong.
States are opening up because the American people are demanding it. Trump is demanding it. It was the states and cities that closed down businesses, Trump did not close anything. The stock market is coming back, the price of oil is coming back. People have not stopped believing in Trump. Damn, your posts tell me you are more scared than anyone I have seen out there.

He just throws stuff against the wall hoping some of it will stick.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: VVet69 on May 02, 2020, 07:28:11 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 02, 2020, 05:20:34 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW-2vFLWsAEjQho?format=jpg&name=large)


Golly gee,  now the  CDC is saying  what  i have  been saying  for  weeks. Comparable to a severe  flu season but when the  actual number  of  infected the death rate  might  end  up lower than the flu and  it will be  comparable to a  mild season

Here is the link to the current full update:  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/pdf/covidview-05-01-2020.pdf (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/pdf/covidview-05-01-2020.pdf)

Link to the COVIDView page, appears to be updated weekly: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html)

Lots of statistical details...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 02, 2020, 07:41:42 AM
thanks
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 02, 2020, 07:47:28 AM
(https://conservativerepublic.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/26042360-8118415-image-a-49_1584389085188.jpg)

These are the  first  guidelines trump issued and  please refer to guideline  #1. FOLLOW you state  and  local govt  instructions. No, Trump cant  personally  a  lock a state  down but  he  told  people to do what the  dictators told them to do.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 02, 2020, 09:32:03 AM
There were 20 deaths in the local nursing home..>It WAS originally an Avante nursing home.   You can change Avante's name on a weekly basis but it is not going to change the quality of nursing in that home.   Like...it's pathetic.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 02, 2020, 09:40:24 AM
FIVE things we have learned from the Coronavirus Hoax.


1) Our government lacks basic competence, even in comparison to other governments: Everyone with half a brain knows that comparing the private sector to the government is like comparing flying cross country to driving cross country. That being said, if you are driving cross country, you're much better off driving a new BMW than a 1987 Yugo. When you see a worldwide crisis like the Coronavirus, you might think that the United States would be leading the way, but actually it's Denmark and South Korea. Denmark is leading the way with their economic ideas for the crisis (offering to cover 75-90% of employee salaries in hard-hit industries to try to prevent mass firings) and South Korea has been the best at fighting the virus (mass testing including widely available drive-thru testing, thoroughly tracing & quarantining individual cases and letting the public know where they've been, hand sanitizer everywhere). Depending on your political leanings, you might blame our problems on Trump's verbal gaffes or Democrats trying to use the virus as an excuse to push their pet projects for our less than stellar performance, but those are symptoms, not the disease. We have a hidebound, legalistic bureaucracy that's almost uniformly incompetent and our political culture is centered around politicians saying things we want to hear, not getting results or achievements. Until we demand more, we're going to be stuck with a Burger King quality government even though we're paying enough to have Gordon Ramsay make us a 5-course meal.


https://rightwingnews.com/column-2/5-long-term-lessons-we-have-already-learned-from-the-coronavirus-crisis/

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2020, 12:37:13 PM
You've all heard how the virus wasn't modified, right? You decide.

CREATING MORE DEADLY VIRUSES
The Western governments' research paper confirms this.

It notes a 2013 study conducted by a team of researchers, including Dr Shi, who collected a sample of horseshoe bat faeces from a cave in Yunnan province, China, which was later found to contain a virus 96.2 per cent identical to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that caused COVID-19.

The research dossier also references work done by the team to synthesise SARS-like coronaviruses, to analyse whether they could be transmissible from bats to mammals. This means they were altering parts of the virus to test whether it was transmissible to different species.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/coronavirus/bombshell-dossier-lays-out-case-against-chinese-bat-virus-program/news-story/55add857058731c9c71c0e96ad17da60
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2020, 06:47:20 PM
This report was done in 2008. I have no idea how I stumbled across this, I literally found it open on my computer.


Potential Emergence of a Global Pandemic

The emergence of a novel, highly transmissible, and virulent human respiratory illness for which
there are no adequate countermeasures could initiate a global pandemic. If a pandemic disease
emerges by 2025, internal and cross-border tension and conflict will become more likely as
nations struggle—with degraded capabilities—to control the movement of populations seeking to
avoid infection or maintain access to resources.

The emergence of a pandemic disease depends upon the natural genetic mutation or reassortment
of currently circulating disease strains or the emergence of a new pathogen into the human
population. Experts consider highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) strains, such as H5N1,
to be likely candidates for such a transformation, but other pathogens—such as the SARS
coronavirus or other influenza strains—also have this potential.

If a pandemic disease emerges, it probably will first occur in an area marked by high population
density and close association between humans and animals, such as many areas of China and
Southeast Asia, where human populations live in close proximity to livestock. Unregulated
animal husbandry practices could allow a zoonotic disease such as H5N1 to circulate in livestock
populations—increasing the opportunity for mutation into a strain with pandemic potential. To
propagate effectively, a disease would have to be transmitted to areas of higher population
density.

Under such a scenario, inadequate health-monitoring capability within the nation of origin
probably would prevent early identification of the disease. Slow public health response would
delay the realization that a highly transmissible pathogen had emerged.
Weeks might pass before definitive laboratory results could be obtained confirming the existence of a disease with
pandemic potential. In the interim, clusters of the disease would begin to appear in towns and
cities within Southeast Asia.

Despite limits imposed on international travel, travelers with mild
symptoms or who were asymptomatic could carry the disease to other continents.
Waves of new cases would occur every few months. The absence of an effective vaccine and
near universal lack of immunity would render populations vulnerable to infection.

In this worstcase, tens to hundreds of millions of Americans within the US Homeland would become ill and
deaths would mount into the tens of millions. Outside the US, critical infrastructure degradation
and economic loss on a global scale would result as approximately a third of the worldwide
population became ill and hundreds of millions died.
_____________________________

US and global health organizations currently are working to develop vaccines that may prevent or
mitigate influenza pandemics. A breakthrough in the next several years could reduce the risk posed by
pandemic influenza during upcoming decades.

How fast a disease spreads, how many people become sick, how long they stay sick, the mortality rate,
and the symptoms and after-effects will vary according to the specific characteristics of whatever
pathogen is responsible for a pandemic. This scenario posits plausible characteristics that fall within a
range of possibilities for these variables.

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Reports%20and%20Pubs/2025_Global_Trends_Final_Report.pdf
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 03, 2020, 12:09:57 PM
Andy Biggs, House rep from AZ gets  it, but  something  is wrong with the  picture.

Rep Andy Biggs
"@RepAndyBiggsAZ
Another highlight of the Fauci-Birx doctrine of destruction

Forcing people to hunker in their homes for a period of time abrogates the essence of America because it restricts our rights.

Stalin would have been content with the ramification of these sentiments. No more!"

I  agree with him completely that  fauci/birx are stalinists but  who keeps  bringing them on stage every  single  day? TRUMP!! You can go thru more and  more rep twitter pages and  its  crystal clear they see opening  up as  the  only  way  they have a  chance to win and so far birx/fauci are doing  everything they can to stop that. I  guess trump has a secret  plan.

On the  "fauci/birx doctrine  of  destruction"(i think he  is  right) they created the  doctrine with full knowlege of trump. They  display it  right  in front  of him at  every  update. At what  point  is  it  trump's  doctrine as well?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2020, 12:18:51 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 03, 2020, 12:09:57 PM
Andy Biggs, House rep from AZ gets  it, but  something  is wrong with the  picture.

Rep Andy Biggs
"@RepAndyBiggsAZ
Another highlight of the Fauci-Birx doctrine of destruction

Forcing people to hunker in their homes for a period of time abrogates the essence of America because it restricts our rights.

Stalin would have been content with the ramification of these sentiments. No more!"

I  agree with him completely that  fauci/birx are stalinists but  who keeps  bringing them on stage every  single  day? TRUMP!! You can go thru more and  more rep twitter pages and  its  crystal clear they see opening  up as  the  only  way  they have a  chance to win and so far birx/fauci are doing  everything they can to stop that. I  guess trump has a secret  plan.

On the  "fauci/birx doctrine  of  destruction"(i think he  is  right) they created the  doctrine with full knowlege of trump. They  display it  right  in front  of him at  every  update. At what  point  is  it  trump's  doctrine as well?
Yes he does, but you're too damned biased to see it.

Trump is giving the left just what they want, cover for their dictator Governors in blue states.
While inner city libs are suffering the consequences of those they supported, as the rest of the country is opening up.

What do you think all these libs are thinking as they see GOP run states regaining a sense of normalcy while they sit and stew in a Dim dictatorship?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 03, 2020, 12:36:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2020, 12:18:51 PM
Yes he does, but you're too damned biased to see it.

Trump is giving the left just what they want, cover for their dictator Governors in blue states.
While inner city libs are suffering the consequences of those they supported, as the rest of the country is opening up.

What do you think all these libs are thinking as they see GOP run states regaining a sense of normalcy while they sit and stew in a Dim dictatorship?

I think they see  victory. As  i have stated  before the way to look at this  politically is to look at when or  if dem states  open up. If there  is a sudden rush for  them to open up then its  clear they think staying  closed  isnt working. So far  i dont see any  big  rush to open.

Trump should  be saying  what  Napolitano is saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88IvI8GxjC8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88IvI8GxjC8)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2020, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 03, 2020, 12:36:58 PM
I think they see  victory. As  i have stated  before the way to look at this  politically is to look at when or  if dem states  open up. If there  is a sudden rush for  them to open up then its  clear they think staying  closed  isnt working. So far  i dont see any  big  rush to open.

Trump should  be saying  what  Napolitano is saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88IvI8GxjC8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88IvI8GxjC8)
Did what I just say completely go over your head? I said the left lost, even doubling down on stupid. Even Ca Governor Nuisance is backing down because the Sheriffs are refusing to enforce unconstitutional laws.
Yet Whitmer, a Soros clone thinks she has the authority to play dictator, and the people are pissed. How is that not a wake up call to the left that put her worthless ass in office.
Then we have Twitter banning Candice Owens for calling her out and telling people to ignore her. Tell me libs aren't seeing this and rethinking the mistakes they've been making in reelecting these idiots.

The left has lost! Trump has won!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2020, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 03, 2020, 12:36:58 PM
I think they see  victory. As  i have stated  before the way to look at this  politically is to look at when or  if dem states  open up. If there  is a sudden rush for  them to open up then its  clear they think staying  closed  isnt working. So far  i dont see any  big  rush to open.

Trump should  be saying  what  Napolitano is saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88IvI8GxjC8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88IvI8GxjC8)
Case in point!

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1257018522070388753
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 03, 2020, 04:16:10 PM
excuse me??!!

I hope every last one of them open up.  And where is the damn ACLU?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2020, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 03, 2020, 04:16:10 PM
excuse me??!!

I hope every last one of them open up.  And where is the damn ACLU?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
As if they were ever for actual Liberties...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 03, 2020, 06:19:00 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 03, 2020, 04:16:10 PM
excuse me??!!

I hope every last one of them open up.  And where is the damn ACLU?

The  ACLU  loves destroying the  private sector. My question is  where  is  Barr and Trump? I read where  barr  is disturbed, but  still no lawsuits  filed.

Meanwhile Andy is  getting  more restless

Rep Andy Biggs
@RepAndyBiggsAZ
·
53m
Important point by President @realDonaldTrump
.

Add that to Dr Fauci's prior assertion that the economic effects and devastation from this shutdown are merely inconvenient for Americans.

Dr Fauci can no longer be one of the primary voices in this crisis.

As  of today he still is.

This  is the guy  who should  be  up there with trump, and  he  hates  trump, dr  katz. listen to the  whole  video even if  it  is  bill maher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lze-rMYLf2E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lze-rMYLf2E)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 03, 2020, 06:35:22 PM
He  makes good  points about the death rate being far  lower than reported, and the false  idea  that  everyone  must  be tested.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2020, 04:36:21 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 03, 2020, 06:19:00 PM
The  ACLU  loves destroying the  private sector. My question is  where  is  Barr and Trump? I read where  barr  is disturbed, but  still no lawsuits  filed.

Meanwhile Andy is  getting  more restless

Rep Andy Biggs
@RepAndyBiggsAZ
·
53m
Important point by President @realDonaldTrump
.

Add that to Dr Fauci's prior assertion that the economic effects and devastation from this shutdown are merely inconvenient for Americans.

Dr Fauci can no longer be one of the primary voices in this crisis.

As  of today he still is.

This  is the guy  who should  be  up there with trump, and  he  hates  trump, dr  katz. listen to the  whole  video even if  it  is  bill maher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lze-rMYLf2E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lze-rMYLf2E)
You're like a fuckin broken record. You know absolutely nothing about how our justice system works yet ask stupid questions why isn't Barr and Trump involved?
I swear, you destroy whatever bell curve we have going on this forum. Does the word embarrass even enter your vocabulary?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 04, 2020, 07:39:55 AM
Covid19...the only thing made in China that works. 
Title: Coronavirus mortality rates by country
Post by: Patrick2 on May 04, 2020, 04:29:35 PM
5,8 15.2

The covid mortality RATE is 15.2 in the UK, and 5.8 in the US.  Garsh, what happened to that wunnerful NHS socialized medicine?  Likewise all the other euroweenies except Germany are worse than the US.  I watch BBC news, and they keep grimly announcing the death TOTAL in the US, probably to make the UK not look so bad, leaving out that the US has five times as many people.



https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Title: Re: Coronavirus mortality rates by country
Post by: American Loving Norwegian on May 05, 2020, 01:09:49 AM
Quote from: Patrick2 on May 04, 2020, 04:29:35 PM
5,8 15.2

The covid mortality RATE is 15.2 in the UK, and 5.8 in the US.  Garsh, what happened to that wunnerful NHS socialized medicine?  Likewise all the other euroweenies except Germany are worse than the US.  I watch BBC news, and they keep grimly announcing the death TOTAL in the US, probably to make the UK not look so bad, leaving out that the US has five times as many people.



https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

I agree with this so much!!! Ive been trying to tell people this for a month now or something, but I get Asked "why do you support a facist leader" "youre such a Trumpist " etc 🙄 apparently supporting  facts makes me a trump supporter 😂😂
Title: Re: Coronavirus mortality rates by country
Post by: drifter106 on May 05, 2020, 01:40:47 AM
Quote from: American Loving Norwegian on May 05, 2020, 01:09:49 AM
I agree with this so much!!! Ive been trying to tell people this for a month now or something, but I get Asked "why do you support a facist leader" "youre such a Trumpist " etc 🙄 apparently supporting  facts makes me a trump supporter 😂😂

Your getting a front row seat of MSM feeding them their kool aid... :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 05, 2020, 04:25:36 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 04, 2020, 04:36:21 AM
You're like a fuckin broken record. You know absolutely nothing about how our justice system works yet ask stupid questions why isn't Barr and Trump involved?
I swear, you destroy whatever bell curve we have going on this forum. Does the word embarrass even enter your vocabulary?

You mean Trump cant  hold  up the  constitution at  every corona  update and tell people they are  under  no obligation to obey  dictates? And he cant tell law enforcement they are  under  no obligation to enforce  dictates?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2020, 05:22:04 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 05, 2020, 04:25:36 AM
You mean Trump cant  hold  up the  constitution at  every corona  update and tell people they are  under  no obligation to obey  dictates? And he cant tell law enforcement they are  under  no obligation to enforce  dictates?
He's letting the left bury themselves,by following the Constitution!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 05, 2020, 03:57:17 PM
If they were serious about stopping this virus, why didn't they check passengers BEFORE they got on the plane.  Now, if there were people carring the virus, it's already exposed everyone else in such a close environment, and sucking it through the air vents.  Some passengers who didn't have it before, probably would by they time they deboarded...
Title: A Chinese Pattern Emerges: First Fentanyl, Now Coronavirus
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 05, 2020, 05:18:06 PM
There are people in China and America, some with connections to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, who are upset with reports that the coronavirus is linked to the lab. They want to blame President Trump for a plague unleashed by China. But it turns out there are many controversial labs in Wuhan. Some "study" viruses. Some produce fentanyl.

A fascinating article in the Los Angeles Times reveals that before Wuhan became known for a virus killing tens of thousands of people, it was the main source of fentanyl, described as the deadliest drug to ever hit U.S. streets, which is also killing tens of thousands of people. Datelined Mexico City, the Los Angeles Times article began, "For drug traffickers interested in getting in on the fentanyl business, all roads once led to Wuhan." It reported, "Vendors there shipped huge quantities around the world. The biggest customers were Mexican drug cartels, which have embraced fentanyl in recent years because it is cheaper and easier to produce than heroin."

Senator Tom Cotton: "The Chinese government is the world's largest drug dealer"
"The Chinese government is the world's largest drug dealer," says Senator Tom Cotton. "China has allowed fentanyl and other synthetic opioids to pour into the United States for years, killing tens of thousands of Americans." Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer agrees, saying, "We must hold China, currently the world's largest producer of illicit fentanyl, accountable for its role in the trade of this deadly drug." Their Fentanyl Sanctions Act was included in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2020.

But now we find our nation engulfed in another made-in-China health crisis.

ARTICLE CONTINUED:  https://canadafreepress.com/article/a-chinese-pattern-emerges-first-fentanyl-now-coronavirus (https://canadafreepress.com/article/a-chinese-pattern-emerges-first-fentanyl-now-coronavirus)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2020, 04:06:26 AM
In Your Face Judge!

https://twitter.com/CBS11Andrea/status/1257785386878881792
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2020, 04:29:58 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 06, 2020, 04:06:26 AM
In Your Face Judge!

https://twitter.com/CBS11Andrea/status/1257785386878881792

Dallas salon owner who refused to close sentenced to 7 days in jail, ordered to pay fines

A Dallas salon owner who has continued offering services despite a citation, cease-and-desist letter and a restraining order was sentenced on Monday to seven days in jail.

In Tuesday afternoon's hearing, Dallas Civil District Judge Eric Moyé also ordered her to pay thousands in fines for refusing to shut down her salon in violation of shelter in place orders.

Salon a la Mode owner Shelley Luther reopened on April 30 even though the state has required non-essential businesses to close in response to the coronavirus pandemic. Gov. Greg Abbott announced Tuesday that salons will be allowed to reopen Friday.

The judge heard testimony from a Dallas code inspector and a Dallas police officer who both testified they saw clients inside the salon getting haircuts and manicures over the last seven days despite Moyé's rulings.

City attorneys argued Luther willfully and flagrantly violated Judge Moyé's order.

Video...
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/dallas-salon-owner-refused-close-sentenced-7-days-jail-ordered-pay-fines/287-beefb4d5-4bc9-4ecd-9661-420c14c75ce9
Title: Hair-salon owner ordered freed from jail
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 06, 2020, 01:07:17 PM
With the backing of the Republican governor, the Texas attorney general is urging a Dallas judge to free a salon owner he jailed Tuesday after she refused to apologize for keeping her business open in violation of the governor's coronavirus order.

The office of Attorney General Ken Paxton told Dallas County State District Judge Eric Moyé in a letter that he abused his discretion when he "unjustly jailed" Shelly Luther for seven days, Fox News reported.

In a tweet, Paxton said Luther "should immediately be released from jail."

"Locking her up is a misguided abuse of power, especially considering Dallas County released real criminals to 'protect them from COVID-19,'" he wrote.


A GoFundMe campaign has been launched on Luther's behalf, with some $290,000 already donated.



ARTICLE & VIDEO CONTINUED:  https://www.wnd.com/2020/05/hair-salon-owner-ordered-freed-jail/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-breaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=breaking (https://www.wnd.com/2020/05/hair-salon-owner-ordered-freed-jail/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-breaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=breaking)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2020, 01:12:38 PM
UPDATE!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has called for the "immediate release" of a Dallas salon owner who was arrested and sent to jail for opening her business in defiance of Gov. Greg Abbott's stay-at-home orders.

Shelley Luther, owner of Salon A La Mode, was sentenced to seven days in jail Tuesday after Dallas judge Eric Moye said she violated those orders as the coronavirus pandemic continues.

Paxton said he believes the judge is abusing his authority and that her arrest seems like a "political stunt." In a full statement, Paxton said:

"I find it outrageous and out of touch that during this national pandemic, a judge, in a county that actually released hardened criminals for fear of contracting COVID-19, would jail a mother for operating her hair salon in an attempt to put food on her family's table," said Attorney General Paxton. "The trial judge did not need to lock up Shelley Luther. His order is a shameful abuse of judicial discretion, which seems like another political stunt in Dallas. He should release Ms. Luther immediately."

The attorney general sent a letter to Moye, saying her sentencing was "significantly overbroad." He mentioned that Abbott's new executive order will allow her to operate business starting on Friday.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/05/06/texas-attorney-general-ken-paxton-immediate-release-jailed-dallas-salon-owner-shelley-luther/
Title: Re: Hair-salon owner ordered freed from jail
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2020, 01:27:13 PM
Already posted. I have a running post on this.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/msg407133/#new
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 06, 2020, 03:10:31 PM
Update Project Veritas

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1258117345026945033
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 06, 2020, 03:17:09 PM
Greg Abbot and Ken Paxton both condemned the jailing of Shelley Luther.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/abbott-paxton-condemn-jailing-shelley-luther
Title: Re: Coronavirus mortality rates by country
Post by: Mjolnir on May 06, 2020, 09:43:41 PM


Quote from: Patrick2 on May 04, 2020, 04:29:35 PM
5,8 15.2

The covid mortality RATE is 15.2 in the UK, and 5.8 in the US.  Garsh, what happened to that wunnerful NHS socialized medicine?  Likewise all the other euroweenies except Germany are worse than the US.  I watch BBC news, and they keep grimly announcing the death TOTAL in the US, probably to make the UK not look so bad, leaving out that the US has five times as many people.



https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

This post is a good example of shallow analysis, perhaps exacerbated by some confirmation bias.  To get a more complete and useful picture for a comparison, you would have to cross-reference a number of factors that affect spread and mortality rates including population density and the trends for new cases and deaths.  For goodness sake, where we are now is not where we are going to be.

Take the US and Belgium, for example.  Belgium has 720 deaths per million, the US 226.  Is the US doing better?  Yes, so far.  This site has data by country, and if you look at the Belgium projections you will see that Belgium peaked around April 12th for deaths, and has dropped considerably since.  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belgium/
The U.S. peak so far was on May 1st, more than two weeks later, and is only gradually falling.  We may not yet have reached the middle of woods, whereas Belgium pretty clearly is on its way out.

Daily new cases has fallen dramatically in Belgium, but is more or less consistent in the States.  Both the UK and the US do not look good in this respect.

The U.S. has 94 people/sq.mile, Belgium has 383, over 4x more.  The UK is 259.  In a heavily urban environment the virus will spread so much faster, especially when you can be an asymptomatic carrier.  As for the culpability of the health care system, it depends on how it is managed.  If you get swamped you get swamped.  No one was really prepared for this pandemic.

The administration has done an abysmal job handling Covid-19, in almost every respect.  Solar began this thread on Jan 21st, and the White House knew Covid-19 was going to be a big problem well before that. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Mjolnir on May 06, 2020, 09:52:34 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 01, 2020, 05:41:20 PM
This is no pandemic.  It's a DEMPANIC.

Please provide a rational, science based justification for that remark.  Clever word play aside, what you say is insulting to so many who are suffering, dying, and taking great risks for everyone's benefit, e.g. health care workers, grocery store employees, etc.
Title: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 05:58:01 AM
Officials in Ventura County, California will be expanding coronavirus testing, tracking the infected and those who they've been in contact with, and moving people out of their homes and into specialized housing for COVID-19 patients.

Discussing the need to hire contact tracers and manage active cases, Ventura County Public Health Director Dr. Robert Levin said during a May 4 press conference that people who live in homes where they could expose family members to COVID-19 would be moved into 'other kinds of housing' provided by the county.

"We also realize that as we find more contacts, some of the people we find are going to have trouble being isolated," said Levin. "For instance, if they live in a home where there is only one bathroom and there are three or four other people living there, and those people don't have COVID infection, we're not going to be able to keep the person in that home.

Every person who we're isolating, for instance, needs to have their own bathroom. And so we'll be moving people like this into other kinds of housing that we have available."

Watch:


ARTICLE & VIDEO CONTINUED:  https://patriottruthnews.com/economy/california-county-to-remove-covid-19-patients-from-homes-based-on-living-situation-will-place-in-other-kinds-of-housing/ (https://patriottruthnews.com/economy/california-county-to-remove-covid-19-patients-from-homes-based-on-living-situation-will-place-in-other-kinds-of-housing/)


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2020, 06:13:52 AM
Quote from: Mjolnir on May 06, 2020, 09:52:34 PM
Please provide a rational, science based justification for that remark.  Clever word play aside, what you say is insulting to so many who are suffering, dying, and taking great risks for everyone's benefit, e.g. health care workers, grocery store employees, etc.
He will, only after you get an anal stick-ectomy. People are becoming callous because of the Marxist left, so lighten up Mildred, it's called Gallows Humor.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on May 07, 2020, 08:21:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 07, 2020, 06:13:52 AM
He will, only after you get an anal stick-ectomy. People are becoming callous because of the Marxist left, so lighten up Mildred, it's called Gallows Humor.

Have a heart, Solar. Have you forgotten? Today, EVERYTHING is a drama -nothing short of life & death. So be tender and gentle. And this so called "Gallows Humor" you speak of is harsh...probably rooted in some barbarian culture of the past :laugh:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2020, 09:14:25 AM
Quote from: WMK on May 07, 2020, 08:21:16 AM
Have a heart, Solar. Have you forgotten? Today, EVERYTHING is a drama -nothing short of life & death. So be tender and gentle. And this so called "Gallows Humor" you speak of is harsh...probably rooted in some barbarian culture of the past :laugh:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Damn, I forgot my Kid gloves again. Yeah, you nailed me for the barbarian I am, you know, typical American belief in the laws of Nature, the same principles our Nation was Founded upon.
God, I sure can be a heartless shit when it comes to libs "Feelings". :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 07, 2020, 09:27:08 AM
Trump should  have the  salon owner  at  his  corona updates as soon as  possible.
Title: AP Exclusive: US shelves detailed guide to reopening country
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 09:36:15 AM
The Trump administration has shelved a document created by the nation's top disease investigators with step-by-step advice to local authorities on how and when to reopen restaurants and other public places during the still-raging coronavirus outbreak.

The 17-page report by a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention team, titled "Guidance for Implementing the Opening Up America Again Framework," was researched and written to help faith leaders, business owners, educators and state and local officials as they begin to reopen.

It was supposed to be published last Friday, but agency scientists were told the guidance "would never see the light of day," according to a CDC official. The official was not authorized to talk to reporters and spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity.

The AP obtained a copy from a second federal official who was not authorized to release it. The guidance was described in AP stories last week, prior to the White House decision to shelve it.


ARTICLE CONTINUED:  https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4 (https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 09:38:23 AM
Quote from: Mjolnir on May 06, 2020, 09:52:34 PM
Please provide a rational, science based justification for that remark.  Clever word play aside, what you say is insulting to so many who are suffering, dying, and taking great risks for everyone's benefit, e.g. health care workers, grocery store employees, etc.

Rational? Science?   Is there any such animal anymore?  LOL   No.   The amount of over estimation, scaring the populace with 'models', past history of gleefully awaiting catastrophe upon the US and its people. And having lived a bit with some recognition of what has happened in the past, makes me more than a tad suspicious of this whole thing.

INSULTING is it?  Insulting to those suffering and dying, and taking great risks for everyone's benefit.   PERHAPS if the states had recognized those at greatest risk they would not have placed covid patients INSIDE nursing home facilities...and perhaps they would  not have allowed covid 19 positive workers to continue to 'serve' inside those same nursing homes, then we wouldn't have had the death count that the elderly warehouse have been exposed.  I'm probably not gonna provide you with a link on these two referenced actions.  You ought to know about them if you're paying attention.

and you know what else might have helped...that those nurses and doctors and aides not taken the time to choreograph and video their dance moves and skits for the public while their patients ARE DYING.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 09:41:32 AM
Quote from: Mjolnir on May 06, 2020, 09:52:34 PM
Please provide a rational, science based justification for that remark.  Clever word play aside, what you say is insulting to so many who are suffering, dying, and taking great risks for everyone's benefit, e.g. health care workers, grocery store employees, etc.

are you from the UK?   Because I can't imagine that this nation has passed that degree of pussification.  CLOSE but not quite there yet.
Title: Re: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: karen on May 07, 2020, 09:45:22 AM
Our governor of washington state basically said the same thing ... Of course the media never pressed him on it.  Wait until they actually start doing this.  I would think people would go crazy.  For sure I would if they tried to take me or my spouse away.  Can you imagine them taking children away from their parents.  Nope - wont happen but the fact that they are even proposing this should send chills out. 
Title: Re: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: nzone on May 07, 2020, 09:54:33 AM
Quote from: karen on May 07, 2020, 09:45:22 AM
Our governor of washington state basically said the same thing ... Of course the media never pressed him on it.  Wait until they actually start doing this.  I would think people would go crazy.  For sure I would if they tried to take me or my spouse away.  Can you imagine them taking children away from their parents.  Nope - wont happen but the fact that they are even proposing this should send chills out.

In WA and CA it could happen. You all have some real sweethearts in GOVT their. Patty Murray has to be up their with Mad Maxine in the smarts dept. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 10:02:34 AM
Did you see the video of authorities in Wuhan dragging citizens out of their homes to put them in isolation for the flu?    Those people were resisting by holding onto doors, lodging themselves into tight spaces, making it hard as possible to be carried away ...and I didn't see anyone going voluntarily.

know why?  Because they knew they were not coming back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLirQXbJrNA
Title: Re: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 10:30:49 AM
If they try to do this in CA....I think all hell will break loose.  But who knows...we've seen plenty of evidence of people calling authorities on their friends and neighbors who are not social distancing, or going out without a mask, or opening their businesses....   They might be in favor of it, UNTIL they come for them.
Title: Re: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2020, 10:42:19 AM
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 10:30:49 AM
If they try to do this in CA....I think all hell will break loose.  But who knows...we've seen plenty of evidence of people calling authorities on their friends and neighbors who are not social distancing, or going out without a mask, or opening their businesses....   They might be in favor of it, UNTIL they come for them.
It won't work in Ca, the only areas that will do it, is La and the Bay Area, and they deserve to suffer under the policies of Marxists they elected. :thumbsup:
Title: Franklin Graham: Hated humanitarian
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 11:03:00 AM
Doctors and nurses put their lives at risk in March to serve COVID-19 patients in a 68-bed emergency field hospital set up in New York's Central Park. They did so as a mission of mercy – offering expert treatment to the sick and suffering, and showing the Gospel in action.

But to New York's wary and unsmiling guardians of "tolerance," it was hate in action.

Alarmed, Mayor Bill de Blasio announced he was "going to send people over from [my] office to monitor" the hospital.

City Council Speaker Corey Johnson attacked the mercy mission, calling it an "affront to our values of inclusion" and "painful for all New Yorkers who care deeply about the LGBTQ community."

A New York state senator fumed that the city was "in the unfortunate position of having to accept charity from bigots like Franklin Graham."

Graham leads Samaritan's Purse, which brought the hospital to New York. His relief organization, he insisted, serves "everyone regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation. ... We don't discriminate. Period."

Not good enough.


ARTICLE CONTINUED:  https://www.wnd.com/2020/05/franklin-graham-hated-humanitarian/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-brief&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=brief (https://www.wnd.com/2020/05/franklin-graham-hated-humanitarian/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-brief&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=brief)

Title: Re: Franklin Graham: Hated humanitarian
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 11:09:33 AM
I have NEVER heard of anyone from Samaritan's Purse asking an individual about their sexual preference.  And WHY would they?  And there's nothing on a hospital intake form asking about sexual orientation.  So WTH is their point?

Once again, Franklin Graham, Samaritan's Purse, Christians in general (with the exception of the Westboro church), always welcome everyone.  If someone needs help, they don't turn them away.    The fact that their religious beliefs does not condone marriage between two men or two women...makes them BIGOTS?!  Of course, the irony is, they always make these statements about being "inclusive", and the first thing THEY do is kick people out.  Who's the bigot?

Interesting the islamists believe in throwing homosexuals off the roof of a high building, and they don't complain about them...
Title: Re: Franklin Graham: Hated humanitarian
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 11:20:45 AM
muslims are leftist allies.   Let the democrat homos worry about that later on.
Title: Re: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 07, 2020, 10:42:19 AM
It won't work in Ca, the only areas that will do it, is La and the Bay Area, and they deserve to suffer under the policies of Marxists they elected. :thumbsup:

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Title: Re: Franklin Graham: Hated humanitarian
Post by: drifter106 on May 07, 2020, 11:50:58 AM
Whats scarey, and this goes for almost everybody that is in the party of evil.  They honestly think their beliefs and actions are right.  For a long time I always thought it was some type of ploy.  I am talking about Pelosi and others in government all the way down to individual people. 

Sometimes I wonder if the devils and demons are so entrenched in them that they can't think or act right...
Title: Re: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 11:52:15 AM
yeah they do...but will they figure it out?
Title: Re: Franklin Graham: Hated humanitarian
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 11:55:31 AM
Quote from: drifter106 on May 07, 2020, 11:50:58 AM
Whats scarey, and this goes for almost everybody that is in the party of evil.  They honestly think their beliefs and actions are right.  For a long time I always thought it was some type of ploy.  I am talking about Pelosi and others in government all the way down to individual people. 

Sometimes I wonder if the devils and demons are so entrenched in them that they can't think or act right...


I believe people like Pelosi know EXACTLY what they're doing, and are encouraging and indoctrinating others to do their bidding for them...
Title: Re: Franklin Graham: Hated humanitarian
Post by: WMK on May 07, 2020, 12:25:26 PM
Quote from: drifter106 on May 07, 2020, 11:50:58 AM
Whats scarey, and this goes for almost everybody that is in the party of evil.  They honestly think their beliefs and actions are right.  For a long time I always thought it was some type of ploy.  I am talking about Pelosi and others in government all the way down to individual people. 

Sometimes I wonder if the devils and demons are so entrenched in them that they can't think or act right...

If you believe in Scripture, it is quite clear about evil governing the hearts and minds of certain men.
John 8:44 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Title: Lockdowns: looks like an op, smells like an op, walks six feet apart like an op
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 12:26:57 PM
We don't need Rahm Emanuel to tell us a crisis shouldn't go to waste.  It's a strategy that probably got off the ground a hundred thousand years ago.  The other half of it is, create the crisis to begin with.  Then don't waste it.

The Bill Gates plan involves a mother of all vaccines for COVID, mandated across the globe, before the lockdowns end.  That's his psychopathic wet dream.  Then, coming in behind that, his lackey, the World Health Organization, along with the professional liars at the CDC, will add—-"we must mandate EVERY vaccine..."

To pull off a mandated global vaccine for eight billion people takes a manufactured crisis
(To read about Jon's mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)

To pull off a mandated global vaccine for eight billion people takes a manufactured crisis.

Fake virus plus real lockdown is the crisis.

You don't think that one up overnight.  You plan.  You drill, and you organize.  You put all your ducks in a row.  You prepare, in order to become Stalin and Mao.

Then somebody has to break the ice.


ARTICLE CONTINUED:  https://canadafreepress.com/article/lockdowns-looks-like-an-op-smells-like-an-op-walks-six-feet-apart-like-an-o (https://canadafreepress.com/article/lockdowns-looks-like-an-op-smells-like-an-op-walks-six-feet-apart-like-an-o)
Title: Re: Lockdowns: looks like an op, smells like an op, walks six feet apart like an op
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 12:28:52 PM
Careful..Pollyanna will come in here and call you a cynic.

:thumbdown:
Title: Re: Lockdowns: looks like an op, smells like an op, walks six feet apart like an op
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 12:35:35 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 12:28:52 PM
Careful..Pollyanna will come in here and call you a cynic.

:thumbdown:


Yeah...just caught some of that. 

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Title: Re: CA To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situattion’ — Will
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2020, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 11:52:15 AM
yeah they do...but will they figure it out?
Use the quote so we know who you're replying to. Thanks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Mercy Otis WarrenI believe people like Pelosi know EXACTLY what they're doing, and are encouraging and indoctrinating others to do their bidding for them...


yeah they do but will they figure it out.
Title: Re: Lockdowns: looks like an op, smells like an op, walks six feet apart like an op
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 01:19:44 PM
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 12:35:35 PM

Yeah...just caught some of that. 

(https://media.giphy.com/media/ZaF4Vl1NQxwaVsStQU/giphy.gif)

LOL
Title: Suspicions Raised Over Tests After a Fruit Reportedly Tests Positive for virus
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 04:12:03 PM
Last month, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made headlines with a blunder of epic proportions. According to a report by the Food and Drug Administration, two of the three CDC laboratories in Atlanta that created the coronavirus test kits violated their own manufacturing standards, resulting in the agency sending tests that did not work to nearly all of the 100 state and local public health labs. What's more, the CDC was found to be sending out tests contaminated with the actual virus.

Testing for COVID-19 has been notoriously suspect and embroiled in controversy since the beginning and the more information that comes out, the more controversial it gets.

Another can of gas on the dumpster fire that is the COVID-19 response is the fact that many tests have been giving false negative and false positive results. A man in Georgia tested both positive and negative for the coronavirus just four hours apart.

Shaun Smith was scheduled to undergo a surgery over the weekend, so he was administered a test on Saturday at 8 a.m. which showed he was positive for COVID-19. Smith explained to FOX 5 Atlanta that he decided to get one more test later that day just to make sure — which came back negative.

Now, Smith has no idea whether or not he has the virus as he has since tested both positive and negative.


ARTICLE CONTINUED:  https://thefreethoughtproject.com/covid-19-tests-positive-fruit/?utm_source=getresponse&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=rssfeednewsletter&utm_content=The+Free+Thought+Project+Newsletter (https://thefreethoughtproject.com/covid-19-tests-positive-fruit/?utm_source=getresponse&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=rssfeednewsletter&utm_content=The+Free+Thought+Project+Newsletter)




Title: Re: Suspicions Raised Over Tests After a Fruit Reportedly Tests Positive for virus
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 04:13:05 PM
Seriously?!   A fruit tested positive for COVID-19???
Title: Re: Suspicions Raised Over Tests After a Fruit Reportedly Tests Positive for virus
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 07, 2020, 04:16:20 PM
Just found out in our local hospital that covid positive nurses were still coming in to work.   Admin said to come in anyway.

and they ARE letting the elderly die.  I don't care if they are telling you they are taking care of them.  NO.  they are not.  They are not getting plasma antibodies, nor remdesivir nor hydroxychloroquine.   If they are over 70 they do not qualify for this.   that's right.
Title: Re: Franklin Graham: Hated humanitarian
Post by: Possum on May 07, 2020, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: drifter106 on May 07, 2020, 11:50:58 AM
Whats scarey, and this goes for almost everybody that is in the party of evil. They honestly think their beliefs and actions are right.  For a long time I always thought it was some type of ploy.  I am talking about Pelosi and others in government all the way down to individual people. 

Sometimes I wonder if the devils and demons are so entrenched in them that they can't think or act right...
Don't know, I see nothing in their actions but trying to divide this country. It seems to me they have drawn a big line in the sand, even bigger than obama's, to try to keep this nation shut down. This pulling people from their homes is just a test to see how far they can go, the further they go, the easier it will be for the next democrat socialist to destroy the constitution. 
Title: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 06:09:49 PM
In late January, President Donald Trump signed an executive order banning travel from China to the United States after it became clear to him and his national security team that the COVID-19 outbreak was likely to worsen and become a major health threat.

Shortly thereafter, the president also restricted travel from Europe after several countries there became coronavirus hotspots.

But as turns out, according to a new study, it's New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo who should have acted to restrict travel from his state.

The New York Times, surprisingly, reported Thursday that researchers believe people who traveled from the state to other parts of the country were responsible for "seeding" various regions with more COVID-19 cases:


ARTICLE CONTINUED:   https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/07/will-cuomo-be-held-accountable-study-finds-travel-from-nyc-seeded-covid-outbreaks-throughout-us-918034?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/07/will-cuomo-be-held-accountable-study-finds-travel-from-nyc-seeded-covid-outbreaks-throughout-us-918034?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL)
Title: Re: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2020, 06:14:16 PM
How  does one restrict people from leaving, let alone a city?
Title: Re: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 07, 2020, 06:14:16 PM
How  does one restrict people from leaving, let alone a city?


Cuomo shut down everything else in NYC...you really think he couldn't tell all the airlines no OUTgoing flights?   They did it after 9/11.
Title: Re: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: Solar on May 07, 2020, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 06:25:22 PM

Cuomo shut down everything else in NYC...you really think he couldn't tell all the airlines no OUTgoing flights?   They did it after 9/11.
No, I mean at gun point. But that aside, NY Slimes is wrong, the first cases started in Ca. Thing is we wouldn't have simply have rolled over and our Sheriffs wouldn't have enforced it.
Title: Re: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: Possum on May 08, 2020, 04:49:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 07, 2020, 06:29:37 PM
No, I mean at gun point. But that aside, NY Slimes is wrong, the first cases started in Ca. Thing is we wouldn't have simply have rolled over and our Sheriffs wouldn't have enforced it.
We got sold on this bill of goods by assuming it was only temporarily, why within a short week or two everything would be back to normal. Pelosi was encouraging people to go to San Francisco,  Blasio was encouraging people to get out, Trump was being a raciest for shutting down travel, ect, so how bad could it be?
The biggest mistake made was putting power into the hands of liberal governors and mayors that was totally unconstitutional. That has only made it easier for the next crisis. The good news, I think this has killed a party that was on life support.
Title: Re: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: Solar on May 08, 2020, 06:07:16 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 08, 2020, 04:49:11 AM
We got sold on this bill of goods by assuming it was only temporarily, why within a short week or two everything would be back to normal. Pelosi was encouraging people to go to San Francisco,  Blasio was encouraging people to get out, Trump was being a raciest for shutting down travel, ect, so how bad could it be?
The biggest mistake made was putting power into the hands of liberal governors and mayors that was totally unconstitutional. That has only made it easier for the next crisis. The good news, I think this has killed a party that was on life support.
' :biggrin:
Now libs know what to expect from a Dim Govt if they ever got the chance at power.   Yep, this was the proverbial nail.
Title: Re: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: WMK on May 08, 2020, 08:23:04 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 08, 2020, 04:49:11 AM
We got sold on this bill of goods by assuming it was only temporarily, why within a short week or two everything would be back to normal. Pelosi was encouraging people to go to San Francisco,  Blasio was encouraging people to get out, Trump was being a raciest for shutting down travel, ect, so how bad could it be?
The biggest mistake made was putting power into the hands of liberal governors and mayors that was totally unconstitutional. That has only made it easier for the next crisis. The good news, I think this has killed a party that was on life support.

A saying just came to my mind; ' stimulus checks to the undeserving will coverup the most heinous crimes of a politico.
Title: Re: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: Possum on May 08, 2020, 08:29:34 AM
Quote from: WMK on May 08, 2020, 08:23:04 AM
A saying just came to my mind; ' stimulus checks to the undeserving will coverup the most heinous crimes of a politico.
Can not find it on the web, but just heard on the radio, democrats are pushing a living income of eight thousand a month for a family of four. Buy stock in printing presses.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Cuomo in hotseat, study finds flights from epi-center NYC seeded US outbreaks
Post by: walkstall on May 08, 2020, 09:24:21 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 08, 2020, 08:29:34 AM
Can not find it on the web, but just heard on the radio, democrats are pushing a living income of eight thousand a month for a family of four. Buy stock in printing presses.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hmmm...  The wife and I live on 2 thousand a month the rest we put in the bank as we don't spend it.   Hell we could live like Kings, with eight thousand a month come in and just sitting on our ass.   
Title: Re: Suspicions Raised Over Tests After a Fruit Reportedly Tests Positive for virus
Post by: Zouave on May 09, 2020, 06:44:48 AM
Proper testing will be a big part of opening the economy. Everyone that needs testing must have a fair chance of having the test. What McEnany said shows this will not likely happen. Those with the power will do what they want with no thought to anyone else with less power. The guidelines can recommend all they want but daily testing outside the WH it is not happening. Any rate of testing would be welcome to citizens but very little is being done mostly because confirmed case numbers would go up significantly and that would not look good. It is not lack of funds for sure.
McEnany told reporters during Friday's news briefing. "All of the recommended guidelines we have for businesses that have essential workers, we are now putting them in place here in the White House. So as America reopens safely, the White House is continuing to operate safely."

Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 07, 2020, 04:12:03 PM
Last month, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made headlines with a blunder of epic proportions. According to a report by the Food and Drug Administration, two of the three CDC laboratories in Atlanta that created the coronavirus test kits violated their own manufacturing standards, resulting in the agency sending tests that did not work to nearly all of the 100 state and local public health labs. What's more, the CDC was found to be sending out tests contaminated with the actual virus.

Testing for COVID-19 has been notoriously suspect and embroiled in controversy since the beginning and the more information that comes out, the more controversial it gets.

Another can of gas on the dumpster fire that is the COVID-19 response is the fact that many tests have been giving false negative and false positive results. A man in Georgia tested both positive and negative for the coronavirus just four hours apart.

Shaun Smith was scheduled to undergo a surgery over the weekend, so he was administered a test on Saturday at 8 a.m. which showed he was positive for COVID-19. Smith explained to FOX 5 Atlanta that he decided to get one more test later that day just to make sure — which came back negative.

Now, Smith has no idea whether or not he has the virus as he has since tested both positive and negative.


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Title: If You Haven't Seen This Yet Take a Moment
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2020, 12:02:15 PM
Doctor Speaks Out!

https://twitter.com/Kingfreespeech/status/1258628590926729217?s=03
Title: Re: If You Haven't Seen This Yet Take a Moment
Post by: walkstall on May 09, 2020, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 09, 2020, 12:02:15 PM
Doctor Speaks Out!

https://twitter.com/Kingfreespeech/status/1258628590926729217?s=03

More and more doctors are speaking out.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 09, 2020, 12:39:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAB8_u2q2I
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2020, 12:55:46 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Too Damn Real!!!

https://twitter.com/Mrtdogg/status/1258739295172677632
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 09, 2020, 01:05:47 PM
won't play @Solar

got a link?

The Media IS the Virus.

how true.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2020, 01:10:16 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 09, 2020, 01:05:47 PM
won't play @Solar

got a link?

The Media IS the Virus.

how true.
It's twitter, you may have to wait for it to finish loading.
Just click the post again wait a moment.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 09, 2020, 01:10:44 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 09, 2020, 01:05:47 PM
won't play @Solar

got a link?

The Media IS the Virus.

how true.

Hmm..  It played for me. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2020, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: walkstall on May 09, 2020, 01:10:44 PM
Hmm..  It played for me.
I like the last frame, "Gates Is God"... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: China Asked The WHO To Help Cover Up Coronavirus
Post by: Solar on May 09, 2020, 04:05:44 PM
Chinese Leader Xi Jinping personally asked the World Health Organization to delay the release of critical information regarding its coronavirus outbreak, German intelligence has concluded.

Xi met with WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on January 21 to request that he withhold information about human-to-human transition and delay the declaration of a global pandemic, according to German magazine Der Spiegel. The news comes amid rising sentiment that China should be held financially responsible for the pandemic.

"The BND's verdict is harsh: At least four, if not six, weeks have been lost in Beijing's information policy in the fight against the virus," Der Spiegel reported.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/09/china-who-coronavirus-coverup-germany/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2020, 08:13:38 AM
New Evidence Based on Cell Phone Data Records Shows Shutdown of Wuhan Virology Lab in October – Two Months Before Outbreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi9T4nl6Ljc
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2020, 11:00:29 AM
I love Sharyl Attkinsson! :thumbsup:

Sorting fact from fiction amid information manipulation
Narrative engineering and censorship are among the reasons reliable information is in short supply.


Snipped~~~~

The final reason why factual information is often out of our reach is because it is simply censored, hidden or disappeared. The influences who seek to control narratives in order to gain power or make money can reach with their tentacles into Facebook and make sure certain facts are labelled "false" and removed. They can do the same with Twitter, YouTube, and Wikipedia. They can commission a misleading "fact check" from any of a number of "fact checking" groups, designed to controversialize a set of true facts, the scientists unearthing them, or journalists reporting them.

For all of these reasons, it has become increasingly difficult to rely firmly on what we read and hear. And those controlling the narratives pretend it is we who are off base when we ask questions or address this reality. The wise information consumer knows better.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/media/difficult-search-facts-amid-information-manipulation
Title: City Passes Resolution 'Chinese Virus' is Hateful, Encourages Citizens to report
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 10, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
The San Antonio City Council has passed a resolution attacking the use of the term "Chinese virus" to describe the coronavirus.

The resolution, which proclaims that "COVID-19 will not be stopped by political boundaries and was not created or caused by any race, nationality or ethnicity, and the World Health Organization has cautioned against using geographic descriptors that can fuel ethnic and racial discrimination" passed unanimously, according to WOAI-TV.

San Antonio has been in the news over the past year for its efforts to prevent Chick-fil-A from opening at the city's airport, couching its battle against the popular fast-food franchise as a battle against an organization it paints as anti-LGBTQ.

Chick-fil-A was invoked by Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas when he tweeted his disbelief of the San Antonio resolution.

"This is NUTS. SA City Council behaving like a lefty college faculty lounge, triggered by Chick-fil-A & the words 'Wuhan virus.' If they want to investigate someone, start with NYT & CNN who both repeatedly (and rightly) referred to it as "the Chinese coronavirus," Cruz tweeted.


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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 10, 2020, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 05, 2020, 03:57:17 PM
If they were serious about stopping this virus, why didn't they check passengers BEFORE they got on the plane.  Now, if there were people carring the virus, it's already exposed everyone else in such a close environment, and sucking it through the air vents.  Some passengers who didn't have it before, probably would by they time they deboarded...

we all know why now.    It was the determination by the left back during the sars dempanic that they were not prepared and the next time they would be.   This is designed to take out this president and to advance ill conceived leftist ideas.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 10, 2020, 05:09:26 PM
Did the Lockdown Model Cause Half the Coronavirus Deaths in New Jersey?
Instead of coronavirus overwhelming hospitals, it overwhelmed nursing homes.
Fri May 8, 2020 Daniel Greenfield 65



Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic terrorism.

On March 31st, New Jersey Commissioner of Health Judith Persichilli issued an order to nursing homes and rehab facilities ordering them to take coronavirus patients.

Relying on Governor Murphy's Public Health Emergency executive order, she issued a Health Department order that set out to achieve "the expedited receipt of patients/residents discharging from hospitals" by warning that, "no patient/resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the post-acute care setting solely based on a confirmed diagnosis of COVID-19."

The New Jersey Health boss further warned that "post-acute care facilities are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized patient/resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission."

The order was horrifying, but not unusual. A number of blue states, including New York and California, had issued similar orders. But New Jersey had nearly half its deaths occur in nursing homes. Horrifying scenes, such as 18 bodies stacked in one nursing home facility waiting for pickup or the 53 veterans who died at the New Jersey Veterans Memorial Home in Paramus, would soon fill the news.


~~~

horrifying is right.   They should be sued.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2020, 05:18:06 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 10, 2020, 05:09:26 PM
Did the Lockdown Model Cause Half the Coronavirus Deaths in New Jersey?
Instead of coronavirus overwhelming hospitals, it overwhelmed nursing homes.
Fri May 8, 2020 Daniel Greenfield 65



Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic terrorism.

On March 31st, New Jersey Commissioner of Health Judith Persichilli issued an order to nursing homes and rehab facilities ordering them to take coronavirus patients.

Relying on Governor Murphy's Public Health Emergency executive order, she issued a Health Department order that set out to achieve "the expedited receipt of patients/residents discharging from hospitals" by warning that, "no patient/resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the post-acute care setting solely based on a confirmed diagnosis of COVID-19."

The New Jersey Health boss further warned that "post-acute care facilities are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized patient/resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission."

The order was horrifying, but not unusual. A number of blue states, including New York and California, had issued similar orders. But New Jersey had nearly half its deaths occur in nursing homes. Horrifying scenes, such as 18 bodies stacked in one nursing home facility waiting for pickup or the 53 veterans who died at the New Jersey Veterans Memorial Home in Paramus, would soon fill the news.


~~~

horrifying is right.   They should be sued.
I read this morning that 67% of all Chinese Flu deaths have been in nursing homes.
Sorry, I don't remember the site, AP or Reuters, etc.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 10, 2020, 05:23:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 10, 2020, 05:18:06 PM
I read this morning that 67% of all Chinese Flu deaths have been in nursing homes.
Sorry, I don't remember the site, AP or Reuters, etc.

That's true...but seeing AP or Reuters is the source i'd say it is probably more than that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 10, 2020, 05:24:25 PM
This today....a policy that should have been the protocol from day 1.

Cuomo: Coronavirus Patients Cannot Be Discharged To Nursing Homes Now Till They're Cleared...

You would think this would be normal procedure. But this guy is not much brighter than DeBlasio....

Via NYPost:

Patients in New York hospitals must now test negative for the coronavirus before they can be discharged to nursing homes, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Sunday — partially reversing a policy that forced sickened seniors into facilities housing those most vulnerable.

"We're just not going to send a person who is positive to a nursing home after a hospital visit," said Cuomo during an Albany press briefing. "Period."

The ruling partially overrides a controversial March 25 order that nursing homes cannot deny admission or readmission on the basis of a positive or suspected COVID-19 case.

That policy has been roundly criticized as counterintuitive for forcing coronavirus carriers into nursing homes, even as Cuomo has repeatedly acknowledged that seniors are among those most susceptible to the virus.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2020, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 10, 2020, 05:23:34 PM
That's true...but seeing AP or Reuters is the source i'd say it is probably more than that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How sad is that?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 10, 2020, 05:29:32 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 10, 2020, 05:18:06 PM
I read this morning that 67% of all Chinese Flu deaths have been in nursing homes.
Sorry, I don't remember the site, AP or Reuters, etc.
I assume you mean the wuflu, but if that was the case, why did china shut down their 3 cities? The virus that hit the U.S. does not appear to me to be of the magnitude that hit china. It doesn't help that there are more conspiracies out there than who killed JFK, but why did china hit the panic button and close down if it was just the nursing homes, although that does seem to be the case here. I know pollution and smoking are far worse in china, did that make the virus so deadly and fearful? It's easy now to say we overreacted, but no one is saying china overreacted and they completely closed down three cities.( or four, can't remember, and damn near ruined their economy. One question I don't think we know the answer yet, just how bad was this virus?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 10, 2020, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: Possum on May 10, 2020, 05:29:32 PM
I assume you mean the wuflu, but if that was the case, why did china shut down their 3 cities? The virus that hit the U.S. does not appear to me to be of the magnitude that hit china. It doesn't help that there are more conspiracies out there than who killed JFK, but why did china hit the panic button and close down if it was just the nursing homes, although that does seem to be the case here. I know pollution and smoking are far worse in china, did that make the virus so deadly and fearful? It's easy now to say we overreacted, but no one is saying china overreacted and they completely closed down three cities.( or four, can't remember, and damn near ruined their economy. One question I don't think we know the answer yet, just how bad was this virus?

Might have something to do with the way the Chinese live and eat.   Plus....even though I think the WuFlu/Chinese Virus was most likely developed in a lab..i don't think they intended for it to escape.  There were earlier reports of just how careless and lacking in effective procedures this lab was/is.   

NOR do I believe that this virus didn't make it here to January/February.  It was here in Nov/December 2019.    And I believe I know people who had it at that time.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 10, 2020, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: Possum on May 10, 2020, 05:29:32 PM
I assume you mean the wuflu, but if that was the case, why did china shut down their 3 cities? The virus that hit the U.S. does not appear to me to be of the magnitude that hit china. It doesn't help that there are more conspiracies out there than who killed JFK, but why did china hit the panic button and close down if it was just the nursing homes, although that does seem to be the case here. I know pollution and smoking are far worse in china, did that make the virus so deadly and fearful? It's easy now to say we overreacted, but no one is saying china overreacted and they completely closed down three cities.( or four, can't remember, and damn near ruined their economy. One question I don't think we know the answer yet, just how bad was this virus?
You'd have to ask them, but they aren't telling anyone. I suspect they thought it to be far worse than it was when they released it on their own people, be it accident or on purpose makes no difference, they constructed it for germ warfare and panicked when it hit the populace.

I posted a video showing that the lab closed a month earlier than when the first cases showed up, meaning they knew what they had done, and still did nothing to warn the world.
This also proves the CCP knew they were about to suffer through the worst economy they'd ever experienced, so they wanted to share their misery with the rest of the world despite a lock down, they allowed their people to travel freely about the planet.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2020, 06:59:01 AM
Let the back peddling begin...

"There Is Nothing from the CDC I Can Trust!" – Dr. Birx Tells Off CDC Director, Claims COVID-19 Mortality Rate Inflated By as Much as 25%!

** Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the ENTIRE US ECONOMY.
** The fraudulent model predicted 2.2 million American deaths from the coronavirus pandemic
** The authors of the Imperial College Model shared their findings with the White House Coronavirus task force in early March
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx then met with President Trump privately and urged him to shut down the US economy and destroy the record Trump economy based on this model
** A new critique of the Imperial College Model finds the study is "completely unusable for scientific purposes" — The study is a complete sham
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed a garbage model on the White House and the American public and destroyed the US economy

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/nothing-cdc-can-trust-dr-birx-tells-off-cdc-director-claims-covid-19-mortality-rate-inflated-much-25/
Title: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 11, 2020, 10:24:31 AM
(https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/TQyX__rkLDd4R6I6GHCvbeXne6Fuew0FAV_OgYWcP27zoWAIMTzIfIrJiTXCKsmqjeHVmna1PssEz0bA3cK4OJ3NvOsWecCSbzcuflXxfz0BCJ504liECbwiifMSPxKIFFs=s0-d-e1-ft#https://aim4truth.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/hardware-store-restaurant.jpeg)

A restaurant in Castle Rock, Colo., is attracting viral attention as footage circulates showing its business packed with customers on Mother's Day despite a state order requiring restaurants to reduce their businesses to delivery options and drive-up service amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Videos picking up traction on Twitter on Sunday show the local restaurant, C&C Coffee and Kitchen, loaded with customers, many of whom could be seen not wearing a mask, as recommended by government and health officials, or adhering to social distancing guidelines.


ARTICLE, VIDEOS & TWEETS CONTINUED:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/497054-colorado-restaurant-draws-crowds-after-reopening-in-defiance-of (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/497054-colorado-restaurant-draws-crowds-after-reopening-in-defiance-of)

Title: Except for healthcare providers and high-risk venues, no one should wear a mask
Post by: Mercy Otis Warren on May 11, 2020, 10:37:13 AM
People, take off your masks before you really make yourself sick!

Most masks are quite unhealthy and some are even disease-promoting—Here's why!
Chemical Off-gassing
Those who are manifesting COVID-19 symptoms have a greater need for fresh clean air. Because of the various respiratory illnesses associated with Coronavirus syndrome they require prana-filled more than anything. So do folks who want to prevent catching the coronavirus.

However, when wearing a synthetic mask the person is filtering their air through a synthetic material that outgases the petrochemically derived constituents that most are made of. The masked individual is then breathing in those aerosolized toxic chemicals.

Many of the sickest COVID patients already have various respiratory illnesses and/or chemical sensitivities so putting a mask on them is the worst thing that can be done. The same applies to people who are relatively healthy but have E.I. syndrome or MCS.*

*Environmental Illness Syndrome & Multiple Chemical Sensitivity
Brand new products just taken out of a box are notorious for outgassing various chemical toxins. In the case of a new mask, which is placed right over the mouth and nose, these airborne chemicals go right into both airways.

Therefore, patients stricken with the novel coronavirus ought to be spared from such a misguided practice. A chemical overwhelm can even trigger a respiratory condition that compels the attending physician to put the patient on a ventilator which ought to be avoided for COVID-19 patients.


ARTICLE CONTINUED:   http://stateofthenation.co/?p=13710 (http://stateofthenation.co/?p=13710)

Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2020, 10:51:03 AM
This is rich on so many levels. For the left to come after them, destroys their own argument about there being more than two genders. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: nzone on May 11, 2020, 12:42:36 PM
Quote from: Mercy Otis Warren on May 11, 2020, 10:24:31 AM
(https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/TQyX__rkLDd4R6I6GHCvbeXne6Fuew0FAV_OgYWcP27zoWAIMTzIfIrJiTXCKsmqjeHVmna1PssEz0bA3cK4OJ3NvOsWecCSbzcuflXxfz0BCJ504liECbwiifMSPxKIFFs=s0-d-e1-ft#https://aim4truth.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/hardware-store-restaurant.jpeg)

A restaurant in Castle Rock, Colo., is attracting viral attention as footage circulates showing its business packed with customers on Mother's Day despite a state order requiring restaurants to reduce their businesses to delivery options and drive-up service amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Videos picking up traction on Twitter on Sunday show the local restaurant, C&C Coffee and Kitchen, loaded with customers, many of whom could be seen not wearing a mask, as recommended by government and health officials, or adhering to social distancing guidelines.


ARTICLE, VIDEOS & TWEETS CONTINUED:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/497054-colorado-restaurant-draws-crowds-after-reopening-in-defiance-of (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/497054-colorado-restaurant-draws-crowds-after-reopening-in-defiance-of)

Kudos to the restaurant Owner. :thumbsup: :biggrin: :toungsmile:
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Patrick2 on May 11, 2020, 02:14:27 PM


Get ready for the second virus infection wave.  I hear that's already happening in some places in Europe where they've ended shutdowns.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 02:32:17 PM
I doubt that.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: taxed on May 11, 2020, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: Patrick2 on May 11, 2020, 02:14:27 PM

Get ready for the second virus infection wave.  I hear that's already happening in some places in Europe where they've ended shutdowns.

Proof?
Title: Dr's keep discovering ways CV19 attacks the body
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 05:43:25 PM
Doctors keep discovering new ways the coronavirus attacks the body

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/10/coronavirus-attacks-body-symptoms/?arc404=true



More than four months of clinical experience across Asia, Europe and North America has shown the pathogen does much more than invade the lungs. "No one was expecting a disease that would not fit the pattern of pneumonia and respiratory illness," said David Reich, a cardiac anesthesiologist and president of Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City.

It attacks the heart, weakening its muscles and disrupting its critical rhythm. It savages kidneys so badly some hospitals have run short of dialysis equipment. It crawls along the nervous system, destroying taste and smell and occasionally reaching the brain. It creates blood clots that can kill with sudden efficiency and inflames blood vessels throughout the body.

It can begin with a few symptoms or none at all, then days later, squeeze the air out of the lungs without warning. It picks on the elderly, people weakened by previous disease, and, disproportionately, the obese. It harms men more than women, but there are also signs it complicates pregnancies.

~~~~

Apparently these same doctors don't read the side effects of the very drugs they themselves prescribe for their patients.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: ldub23 on May 11, 2020, 05:45:21 PM
Great  to see some real heors
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 05:53:04 PM
a European second wave is what the left wants you to believe.   I find it maddening that americans are so freakin' willing to roll over and give up their Rights.    Jackasses.
Title: Birx believes CV19 deaths over stated by 25%
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 06:26:54 PM
No kidding.


Via Daily Caller:


Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus task force response coordinator, believes some official COVID-19 statistics like death tolls may be inflated by up to 25%, a new report states.

Birx criticized the method the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was using to collect its data during a heated task force meeting, according to a report Saturday from The Washington Post.

That means instead of 80,000 Covid deaths there is still hardly more than the regular flu and 40 thou less than the HiNi epidemic in which Obonehead did NOTHING.
Title: Re: Birx believes CV19 deaths over stated by 25%
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2020, 06:31:01 PM
Only 25%? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Birx believes CV19 deaths over stated by 25%
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 06:37:36 PM
That's all she'd admit to.

$$$$$
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Patrick2 on May 11, 2020, 06:44:57 PM


Check this out for predictions:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/04/us/coronavirus-live-updates.html#link-582f66ac
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 06:46:20 PM
NYT.  LoloLoLOL
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 06:50:04 PM
Tell you what else too.  If I were sick....the hospital would be The LAST place I would go.   A friend's father went to ER for side effects from not taking his meds like  he should.   They put him in hospital..and he had covid with 48 hours.  THEY. SAY.   

Since he is over 70, he did not 'qualify' for remdisivir, nor plasma with antibodies nor hydroxychloroquine, they SAID, they were waiting for those meds to arrive.  LOLOL

They have done nothing except, make him comfy, give him drugs to treat discomfort and see if he dies.  That's $$ for hospital and state.  The O'care directives for death panels is in place.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Patrick2 on May 11, 2020, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 06:46:20 PM
NYT.  LoloLoLOL

They're citing a Trump administration study.   LOLOLOLLOOL
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2020, 07:19:42 PM
Quote from: Patrick2 on May 11, 2020, 06:54:42 PM
They're citing a Trump administration study.   LOLOLOLLOOL
That article the Slimes refers to "the internal document obtained by The New York Times", was quashed by Trump because he knew it was packed full of bull shit from the CDC.
Leave it to the Slimes to leave that important little fact out.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: taxed on May 11, 2020, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 11, 2020, 07:19:42 PM
That article the Slimes refers to "the internal document obtained by The New York Times", was quashed by Trump because he knew it was packed full of bull shit from the CDC.
Leave it to the Slimes to leave that important little fact out.

Why would anyone post a Trump article from the NYT?
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2020, 07:27:03 PM
Quote from: taxed on May 11, 2020, 07:25:11 PM
Why would anyone post a Trump article from the NYT?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They'll learn, just like using wiki only to discover everything is a lie.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: taxed on May 11, 2020, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 11, 2020, 07:27:03 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They'll learn, just like using wiki only to discover everything is a lie.

Four paragraphs in they're eating Tide pods because they thought it was nutritious...
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Patrick2 on May 11, 2020, 08:53:13 PM
OK - anyone want to make a bet about increased spread of the epidemic if they do large-scale ending of the shutdown?
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: drifter106 on May 11, 2020, 09:35:18 PM
Have one question....how many people have had it and got through it and didn't realize it?  There is a name for it but it eludes me....its not "atypical" is it?  Somebody in the know....please post.  We will never really know the answer to that but I imagine it is a large number.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Physics Hunter on May 12, 2020, 01:11:39 AM
Quote from: drifter106 on May 11, 2020, 09:35:18 PM
Have one question....how many people have had it and got through it and didn't realize it?  There is a name for it but it eludes me....its not "atypical" is it?  Somebody in the know....please post.  We will never really know the answer to that but I imagine it is a large number.

See the 3000 person test in NY reported on Townhall.

If this holds, it is damning of all the Gov restrictions, but I am holding my water, and keeping quarantine protocol.  Because, I don't trust anyone as far as they can throw me.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 12, 2020, 04:17:50 AM
Quote from: Patrick2 on May 11, 2020, 08:53:13 PM
OK - anyone want to make a bet about increased spread of the epidemic if they do large-scale ending of the shutdown?

sure.   Like every promise of 'the next two weeks is gonna be catastrophic', the re-opening is going to go smoothly.    I have not worn a mask once.  I have used hand sanitizer early on.   I am not positive I have not had it because sometime between November and December I had something that hung on and I remember complaining to family that Food just didn't taste good or right.  Cough, congestion, feeling very tired.

This is a virus, yes.  But I do not believe it warrants this type of response.    Seniors and those with preexisting conditions should be careful.  "Authorities' should NOT have been placing covid patients in nursing home facilities and they should have been using the meds that had shown promise. What was there to lose and there might have been more saved.    I believe at some point, we're going to find that putting these people on ventilator was the wrong protocol.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2020, 05:30:59 AM
Quote from: Patrick2 on May 11, 2020, 08:53:13 PM
OK - anyone want to make a bet about increased spread of the epidemic if they do large-scale ending of the shutdown?
So I take it you bought the lies and numbers put out, and expect us to do the same? :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2020, 09:36:14 AM
Rand Paul calls out Fauchi.

This is akin to punishing all gun owners for the acts of a deranged liberal. Marxists want the entire country to fail because their cesspits are hit the hardest.
My entire county had 50 cases, no deaths and full recoveries, we span form Sacramento the Nevada, yet the Marxists want us to close down?

Listen to Paul nail it!

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1260234258788032514
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 12, 2020, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 12, 2020, 09:36:14 AM
Rand Paul calls out Fauchi.

This is akin to punishing all gun owners for the acts of a deranged liberal. Marxists want the entire country to fail because their cesspits are hit the hardest.
My entire county had 50 cases, no deaths and full recoveries, we span form Sacramento the Nevada, yet the Marxists want us to close down?

Listen to Paul nail it!

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1260234258788032514

As I expected this hearing was a nothing burger. Schumer has to be fuming as he openly asked Fauci to unload without Trump "lurking over his shoulder".
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 12, 2020, 12:23:17 PM
left out the word FAILED.


Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 12, 2020, 04:17:50 AM
sure.   Like every promise of 'the next two weeks is gonna be catastrophic', FAILED;   the re-opening is going to go smoothly.    I have not worn a mask once.  I have used hand sanitizer early on.   I am not positive I have not had it because sometime between November and December I had something that hung on and I remember complaining to family that Food just didn't taste good or right.  Cough, congestion, feeling very tired.

This is a virus, yes.  But I do not believe it warrants this type of response.    Seniors and those with preexisting conditions should be careful.  "Authorities' should NOT have been placing covid patients in nursing home facilities and they should have been using the meds that had shown promise. What was there to lose and there might have been more saved.    I believe at some point, we're going to find that putting these people on ventilator was the wrong protocol.
Title: Re: Colorado restaurant draws crowds after reopening in defiance of state order
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2020, 12:39:40 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 12, 2020, 12:23:17 PM
left out the word FAILED.
Same here, Toy and I both had what the doc described as Covid symptoms, said we most likely had it back in late Oct.
He also said something no one is talking about, over exposure. He said that the people on these cruise ships were especially hardest hit because once they got the virus, they continued to be exposed.
Said you get the virus, get sick, body starts fighting the initial infection, a week goes by and Bam, you're exposed again, and the virus is different after every time it leaves another person.
I asked if he could prove this, he said that no one has really discussed it because they don't want to, see it as a waste of time. He told me there might be a couple of papers out there, but most work done in the area is quashed, they have their own agenda.

Like you, I'm probably immune at this point as are millions upon millions of people. But cram them together, and you have a pandemic.
Wuhan is a perfect test tube example, a city bigger and more dense than NY and look how many suffered the initial outbreak, all because they were forced to quarantine.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 12, 2020, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 12, 2020, 11:54:36 AM
As I expected this hearing was a nothing burger. Schumer has to be fuming as he openly asked Fauci to unload without Trump "lurking over his shoulder".
:biggrin:
Not just Scummer, the entire left has to be beside themselves. Not one thing they throw sticks, it flies back and hits them in the face.
Title: Re: Birx believes CV19 deaths over stated by 25%
Post by: supsalemgr on May 13, 2020, 05:08:57 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 11, 2020, 06:37:36 PM
That's all she'd admit to.

$$$$$

Can you not figure out the "quote" function?
Title: Re: Birx believes CV19 deaths over stated by 25%
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 13, 2020, 05:53:25 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 13, 2020, 05:08:57 AM
Can you not figure out the "quote" function?

really dude?  if you couldn't figure out who I was responding to  you got a bigger problem than me using the quote function.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 13, 2020, 06:32:34 AM
isn't it odd, if I can use that word, that the bunch that always says, 'my body my choice' are the very ones that are telling us we HAVE to wear gloves, masks and stay home.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: fred call on May 13, 2020, 12:28:41 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 12, 2020, 12:42:24 PM
:biggrin:
Not just Scummer, the entire left has to be beside themselves. Not one thing they throw sticks, it flies back and hits them in the face.


Inmates 'deliberately infect themselves with coronavirus' to get early release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBEPHqsFcUM
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 13, 2020, 12:37:14 PM
Quote from: fred call on May 13, 2020, 12:28:41 PM

Inmates 'deliberately infect themselves with coronavirus' to get early release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBEPHqsFcUM

Welcome to the forum.

Prisons are not usually populated with brilliant people.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 13, 2020, 01:12:55 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 13, 2020, 12:37:14 PM
Welcome to the forum.

Prisons are not usually populated with brilliant people.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: fred call on May 13, 2020, 01:20:38 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 13, 2020, 12:37:14 PM
Welcome to the forum.

Prisons are not usually populated with brilliant people.

I don't mean to come off sounding psychiatric, but it has been my life's exerence that there are different forms of intelligence.

There's the quantum physicists' type of intelligence. And there's the 'criminals living off of the system's' type of inteliigence. Prisons are their 'universities of higher learning.'
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2020, 06:36:20 AM
DOD study raises tantalizing question: does flu shot increase vulnerability to coronaviruses?

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/does-influenza-vaccine-have-any-effect-other-viruses
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2020, 06:39:46 AM
Hey Walks, feel free to move this to the Library once it falls of the front page.
Thanks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2020, 06:55:42 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This isn't going to end well because Trump saved the day within 16 hrs.

'I Don't Give Two Rats' Asses About Your Cops': NYC Health Commissioner Blew Off Desperate Plea For Masks

New York City Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot blew off the NYPD's desperate plea for more masks as coronavirus cases were on the rise.

According to a report from the New York Post, NYPD Chief of Department Terence Monahan requested 500,000 surgical masks for his officers in late March. Barbot, claiming she needed the masks for others, told him, "I don't give two rats' asses about your cops."

Barbot said that she could only provide the police department with 50,000 masks, but as New York City quickly became a hot zone, it became clear that was not going to be enough. By the end of the first week in April, nearly 20% of the police department was out sick with coronavirus symptoms. In addition, 500 firefighters had tested positive for the virus and a total of about 3,000 firefighters and paramedics were sick.
Much more...

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/14/nyc-health-commissioner-blew-off-plea-masks/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 07:41:47 AM
Schumer just said that opening up too early could mean the death of Precious lives.  LOLOLOL

freakin' hypocrite.

He sure isn't including those precious lives lost everyday to abortion mills.   Which I might add are still operating as though they are essential.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 07:44:47 AM
WHO was this scientist/epidemiologist just on Fox shown speaking to someone..hell...who knows.

And he said, we, the public need to be educated.  LOL
WE the public need to do all the things these (asshole) scientists say especially Fausti.

THAT we are not through this horrible no good very bad thing.

Is this guy living in his old mum's basement?

This is OVER y'all.

But there's faces to be saved, and power to be retained and expanded.

Sons of bitches.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 02:33:32 PM
Didier Raoult: Government Study in Spain finds Those Who Kept Working Were Less Infected Than Those in Lockdown


Renowned French researcher and physician posted this study today from Spain that found those who were essential workers and were out working actually were less infected than those who were cooped up at home in lockdown.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 02:38:13 PM
Woman thrown to ground handcuffed in front of her child for NOT WEARING A MASK.

NYC/Brooklyn Station.

NY cops are assholes.

Video at link.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/448814-woman-thrown-to-the-ground-by-nypd-and-handcuffed-for-not-wearing-mask/

contact Brooklyn police.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/bureaus/patrol/precincts-landing.page

Police Commissioner Dermot Shea
City Hall
New York NY 10007

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2020, 02:41:52 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 02:38:13 PM
Woman thrown to ground handcuffed in front of her child for NOT WEARING A MASK.

NYC/Brooklyn Station.

NY cops are assholes.

Video at link.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/448814-woman-thrown-to-the-ground-by-nypd-and-handcuffed-for-not-wearing-mask/

contact Brooklyn police.
:biggrin:
Libs, God does have a sense of humor. They got what they voted for.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 02:57:23 PM
yes they did get what they didn't even bother to go out to cast a vote for.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2020, 02:59:47 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 02:57:23 PM
yes they did get what they didn't even bother to go out to cast a vote for.
You need to start using the quote, regardless. Thanks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: fred call on May 14, 2020, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 07:44:47 AM
WHO was this scientist/epidemiologist just on Fox shown speaking to someone..hell...who knows.

And he said, we, the public need to be educated.  LOL
WE the public need to do all the things these (asshole) scientists say especially Fausti.

THAT we are not through this horrible no good very bad thing.

Is this guy living in his old mum's basement?

This is OVER y'all.

But there's faces to be saved, and power to be retained and expanded.

Sons of bitches.


President Trump on Thursday suggested the practice of widespread coronavirus testing may be "overrated,"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-testing-may-be-frankly-overrated/ar-BB145rPW?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPCDHP


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: fred call on May 14, 2020, 03:19:06 PM
HEY, can anyone tell me where is the icon to post photos?

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2020, 04:25:18 PM
Quote from: fred call on May 14, 2020, 03:19:06 PM
HEY, can anyone tell me where is the icon to post photos?

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/Themes/default/images/bbc/img.gif)

Bottom left hand corner below the Bold icon.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 06:02:56 PM
LOL  I JUST noticed today that Walmart has these arrows on the floor that say something like 'this way only'.

I didn't. 

LOLOL
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 14, 2020, 06:26:18 PM
Quote from: fred call on May 14, 2020, 03:14:36 PM

President Trump on Thursday suggested the practice of widespread coronavirus testing may be "overrated,"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-testing-may-be-frankly-overrated/ar-BB145rPW?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPCDHP

CDC does testing all the time based  on 10,000 person samples. The  notion of  everyone  getting tested  is  just another reason to keep us  locked  up.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 14, 2020, 07:26:57 PM
They keep the patients sedated all the time...isn't that hard on the liver and kidneys and other organs.....day after day after day?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: fred call on May 15, 2020, 04:12:22 AM
quote author=Solar link=topic=34791.msg408713#msg408713 date=1589498718]
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/Themes/default/images/bbc/img.gif)

Bottom left hand corner below the Bold icon.
[/quote]

Roger that, Solar. And I get these symbols '[' but no 'browse' from where I can choose a photo from my files? What am I missing??

(//)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2020, 05:47:12 AM
Quote from: fred call on May 15, 2020, 04:12:22 AM
quote author=Solar link=topic=34791.msg408713#msg408713 date=1589498718]
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/Themes/default/images/bbc/img.gif)

Bottom left hand corner below the Bold icon.


Roger that, Solar. And I get these symbols '[' but no 'browse' from where I can choose a photo from my files? What am I missing??

(//)
You need a photo hosting site to upload to first. You can't upload to CPF directly from your pooter.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 15, 2020, 05:49:05 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 14, 2020, 06:26:18 PM
CDC does testing all the time based  on 10,000 person samples. The  notion of  everyone  getting tested  is  just another reason to keep us  locked  up.
You might as well blame Barr and Durham for the lock down being extended. The media can not talk about what the investigations are turning up, so they keep expanding talk about the virus.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2020, 06:04:29 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 15, 2020, 05:49:05 AM
You might as well blame Barr and Durham for the lock down being extended. The media can not talk about what the investigations are turning up, so they keep expanding talk about the virus.
Yep, keep them scared and dependent. That's all the left has left. They put all their eggs in the CPP virus basket, and now that Trump is pulling us out, they're in a panic.
"SECOND WAVE"!!!!! Sound familiar? The cries of a failing Marxist movement designed to collapse the global economy.
If we go down, the world follows and China can play savior, so goes the narrative.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: fred call on May 15, 2020, 07:05:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2020, 05:47:12 AM
You need a photo hosting site to upload to first. You can't upload to CPF directly from your pooter.


OOOO'TAY, Sokar....makes sense. Except I searched the features site all over and couldn't find directions how to set up a hosting site. Do I need a note from my mother, or something....UGH.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2020, 07:11:00 AM
Quote from: fred call on May 15, 2020, 07:05:51 AM

OOOO'TAY, Sokar....makes sense. Except I searched the features site all over and couldn't find directions how to set up a hosting site. Do I need a note from my mother, or something....UGH.
Start here. They'll explain how it works for free.

https://www.flickr.com/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: fred call on May 15, 2020, 07:17:00 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2020, 07:11:00 AM
Start here. They'll explain how it works for free.

https://www.flickr.com/

OOOOOO-TAY, Solar..this is starting to get painful. I probably can do without. Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 09:08:05 AM
setting up your own site?  you need a name first.  gotta buy it from Go-daddy.

Then you need a hosting company.

This costs.

Especially if you want one with the bells and whistles.   Mentioning, rep, thanks, security, etc etc etc. tags,
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 09:10:29 AM
WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.





No, WE are NOT "all in this together"

-- Politicians and state and local officials have not given up ONE paycheck.

They have NOT plowed under their fields or slaughtered their livestock or dumped their milk.

They have not lost their homes or businesses.

They haven't laid awake all night wondering how they will feed their families or pay their bills.

As they continue to enforce some of their draconian restrictions, not one of them is suffering from their own decisions.

They are not now....AND NEVER WILL BE....any part of the "WE" in this!!!!

Those of you with your engines idling in "P"....What part of the above don't you understand?!?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: American Exceptionalism on May 15, 2020, 09:20:15 AM
I find that saying... and the TV commercials...most irritating.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 09:22:02 AM
ESpecially, American Exceptionalism, when it is coming out of the mouth of some entitled Hollywood Sleb type.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 09:23:46 AM
more people died in New York Nursing homes than in all of Florida.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/05/more-people-died-new-york-nursing-homes-all-daniel-greenfield/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 09:25:49 AM
you can't access this through that particular social media now...wonder why.

here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDVDVqqIaDY
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 10:12:33 AM
Now they don't want us TALKING to each other.

Conversation





The Hill

@thehill


Talking could leave coronavirus in the air for more than eight minutes: study http://hill.cm/YR1PpS7
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2020, 11:15:21 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 09:08:05 AM
setting up your own site?  you need a name first.  gotta buy it from Go-daddy.

Then you need a hosting company.

This costs.

Especially if you want one with the bells and whistles.   Mentioning, rep, thanks, security, etc etc etc. tags,
HUH?
This is why the quote function is sooo important. I assume you were responding to my post about photo hosting?
You don't need to set up a separate stand alone site, you simply join, say, flickr or tinypic to upload your pics and that's it, then you always have a link to post to your own work.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:18:01 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2020, 11:15:21 AM
HUH?
This is why the quote function is sooo important. I assume you were responding to my post about photo hosting?
You don't need to set up a separate stand alone site, you simply join, say, flickr or tinypic to upload your pics and that's it, then you always have a link to post to your own work.

what do you mean 'your own work'. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2020, 11:21:12 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:18:01 AM
what do you mean 'your own work'.
If you have personal pics you want to share, you simply upload them to one of the afore mentioned sites.
Then you can post a link to them on the forum. Depending on the site, they show up automatically here.

That's how my wife is able to post wildlife videos from our property using flickr.

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/the-living-room/video-from-the-trail-camera/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:25:19 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2020, 11:21:12 AM
If you have personal pics you want to share, you simply upload them to one of the afore mentioned sites.
Then you can post a link to them on the forum. Depending on the site, they show up automatically here.

That's how my wife is able to post wildlife videos from our property using flickr.

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/the-living-room/video-from-the-trail-camera/

so...what is your purpose for this site here......for your photos?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: fred call on May 15, 2020, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 09:10:29 AM
WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.





No, WE are NOT "all in this together"

-- Politicians and state and local officials have not given up ONE paycheck.

They have NOT plowed under their fields or slaughtered their livestock or dumped their milk.

They have not lost their homes or businesses.

They haven't laid awake all night wondering how they will feed their families or pay their bills.

As they continue to enforce some of their draconian restrictions, not one of them is suffering from their own decisions.

They are not now....AND NEVER WILL BE....any part of the "WE" in this!!!!

Those of you with your engines idling in "P"....What part of the above don't you understand?!?

"WE" is Communist China.....
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 15, 2020, 11:29:46 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:25:19 AM
so...what is your purpose for this site here......for your photos?

:lol:  Show me a board site that lets you post from you computer and I will show you a site that will let people into your computer with no problems. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:30:34 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 15, 2020, 11:29:46 AM
:lol:  Show me a board site that lets you post from you computer and I will show you a site that will let people into your computer with no problems.

are you in my computer?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 15, 2020, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:30:34 AM
are you in my computer?


:lol: Hell NO!!!  That's why you can not upload onto CPF from your computer.
How old are you?  Have you been posting very long? 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 15, 2020, 11:35:36 AM

:lol: Hell NO!!!  That's why you can not upload onto CPF from your computer.
How old are you?  Have you been posting very long?
I've been posting for a long time but I don't know if you realize that your responses are disturbing.

and i'm being serious here...what is the purpose of this board?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 15, 2020, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:36:44 AM
I've been posting for a long time but I don't know if you realize that your responses are disturbing.

and i'm being serious here...what is the purpose of this board?

What is disturbing is you don't understand how to keep your computer safe.

Purpose of the board.  Discussion and debate of politics, current events.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2020, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:25:19 AM
so...what is your purpose for this site here......for your photos?
Many people collect stuff they see on the web, especially videos they know will soon be banned, so they upload them for safe keeping so in the future they can show them again.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 15, 2020, 11:44:32 AM
What is disturbing is you don't understand how to keep your computer safe.

Purpose of the board.  Discussion and debate of politics, current events.

LOL  YOU know no such thing.  I have to ask here....is it very good ideas to ridicule and belittle your members?  That is assuming you WANT members?  perhaps i'm wrong.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2020, 11:47:11 AM
Many people collect stuff they see on the web, especially videos they know will soon be banned, so they upload them for safe keeping so in the future they can show them again.

okay...so you're saying that this board has a specific purpose...do I assume that it is a political purpose or not?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 15, 2020, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:48:39 AM
LOL  YOU know no such thing.  I have to ask here....is it very good ideas to ridicule and belittle your members?  That is assuming you WANT members?  perhaps i'm wrong.

Please understand I am not the one asking questions that you for a poster that have been posting for a very long time should know.  EOM
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:59:43 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 15, 2020, 11:56:29 AM
Please understand I am not the one asking questions that you for a poster that have been posting for a very long time should know.  EOM

and there you go again.....very bad idea.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2020, 12:03:15 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 15, 2020, 11:49:46 AM
okay...so you're saying that this board has a specific purpose...do I assume that it is a political purpose or not?
I have no idea where your thought train derailed on this. Posting personal pics can be political, or even humor for the jokes forum.
The only way you can post an image on this site is if you use a third party hosting site.

Fred wanted to know how to post pics from his computer. There is no way our site can personally access his computer and pull the pics up, it would be like you posting a link to your email account, no one would be able to access it.

But, if you take the contents and post them on a hosting site, paste a link to that hosting site, then we would only be able to see what you posted, nothing more.

I don't know why this is so hard to grasp, it's been this way since the web was invented.
Title: Will the vaccine for Covid-19 be strong enough for Covid-20?
Post by: fred call on May 15, 2020, 06:35:12 PM
Will the vaccine for Covid-19 be strong enough for Covid-20?

Yes, frightened people, the debate on how develop a vaccine for Covid-20 is ongoing:



'What about COVID-20?' U.S. cuts funding to group studying bat coronaviruses in China

"Can we predict where the next jump (from animals to humans) will come from? No."

"Once we've overcome COVID-19, what about COVID-20? What about COVID-21? Who is going to go out and find those? Our grant was specifically designed to locate where these viruses are and to stop them from harming Americans," he said.

EcoHealth Alliance has been studying coronaviruses in bats in China for more than a decade. In that time it has established deep links and worked closely with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The Chinese research lab has fallen under a cloud of suspicion because President Donald Trump and senior U.S. officials such as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have persistently linked it with unproven theories about COVID-19's origins.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-about-covid-20-us-cuts-funding-to-group-studying-bat-coronaviruses-in-china/ar-BB13Pujd
Title: Re: Will the vaccine for Covid-19 be strong enough for Covid-20?
Post by: fred call on May 15, 2020, 08:47:46 PM
THE SECOND WAVE WILL NOT BE ABOUT THE VIRUS. IT'LL BE ABOUT TAKING AWAY WHAT'S LEFT OF YOUR RIGHTS.

Published on May 9, 2020

The second wave of the coronavirus pandemic is coming, and you need to prepare for a much more totalitarian and authoritarian rule. Covid-19 will likely be the least of our problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUPkZJRyVps

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2020, 07:45:53 AM
Hey Libs, are you still in denial that this isn't a CCP virus?

https://twitter.com/news_ntd/status/1261443904626323456
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 16, 2020, 08:55:53 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 16, 2020, 07:45:53 AM
Hey Libs, are you still in denial that this isn't a CCP virus?

https://twitter.com/news_ntd/status/1261443904626323456
Hell, the libs would rather have china in charge of the U.S. than Trump.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 16, 2020, 08:55:53 AM
Hell, the libs would rather have china in charge of the U.S. than Trump.
Yep, even despite proof this is a CCP created war virus, they would be happier under communist rule, that way they don't have to think for themselves.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 16, 2020, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 16, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
Yep, even despite proof this is a CCP created war virus, they would be happier under communist rule, that way they don't have to think for themselves.
Do the likes of pelosi, hillary, shumer, shiff, ect. think they would be part of the new ruling class under a communist takeover? I would suspect they would be the first the communist would do away with. I also think china would want their money back.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2020, 02:34:48 PM
Are you ready? I am!!!

Epidemiologist slams coronavirus lockdowns: 'We could open up again and forget the whole thing'
'Shutting down schools, driving the economy against the wall — there was no reason for it," Knut Wittkowski said in an interview.

An epidemiologist known for his contrarian takes to the global response to the coronavirus pandemic is arguing that the ongoing government lockdowns meant to mitigate the disease are based on bad science, and that countries "could open up again and forget the whole thing" if they so desired.

Knut Wittkowski for several weeks has been among the growing chorus of scientists, epidemiology experts, statisticians and other intellectuals who are claiming that the broad economic shutdowns, restrictive policies and harsh mitigative measures put in place by world governments are doing more harm than good.

Public health authorities across the globe have argued that the lockdowns, stay-at-home orders, "social distancing" mandates and other policies are necessary to prevent the collapse of healthcare systems and the deaths of tens of millions.


These measures "most likely made the situation worse," Wittkowski argued in an interview with Spiked this week.

"Firstly, we have the direct consequences: suicides, domestic violence and other social consequences leading to death," Wittkowski said of the lockdowns. "And then we have people who are too scared to go to the hospitals for other problems like strokes or heart attacks. So people stay away from hospitals because of the Covid fear. And then they die."

Wittkowski said the primary fear of most governments — that surges in coronavirus cases would overwhelm healthcare systems, leading to mass deaths from both coronavirus and untreated emergencies — has largely not come to pass.

"Germany had 8,000 deaths in a population of 85 million," he said. "They had 20,000 to 30,000 hospitalisations. In Germany, that is nothing. It does not even show up as a blip in the hospital statistics."

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/epidemiologist-slams-coronavirus-lockdowns-we-could-open-again-and
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 03:57:37 PM
Its  not at all a given a  vaccine  will ever be developed  or  if  it  is will it even matter with the  many mutations  of the  virus  by then.  Some  bad news  on the bailout  front. Listened  to an interview  of senator  cornyn on the radio and  not a word about  not  bailing  out states.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2020, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 03:57:37 PM
Its  not at all a given a  vaccine  will ever be developed  or  if  it  is will it even matter with the  many mutations  of the  virus  by then.  Some  bad news  on the bailout  front. Listened  to an interview  of senator  cornyn on the radio and  not a word about  not  bailing  out states.
Trump said he won't sign the Bill, so why is this bad news?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 04:28:39 PM
i  belive  he said he wouldnt sign the  pelosi bill. T he  senate bill is  secretly  being written now. Do you  have a  link saying  he wont sign ANY  bailout  bill?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2020, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 04:28:39 PM
i  belive  he said he wouldnt sign the  pelosi bill. T he  senate bill is  secretly  being written now. Do you  have a  link saying  he wont sign ANY  bailout  bill?
Hell, even The Con said it will be dead on arrival. The Senate can't write Bills, only the house. Though the Senate can pull old Bills up if they like.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 06:19:52 PM
Pres. Trump Says House's COVID-19 Relief Bill 'Dead On Arrival'
Newsy via AOL· 2 days ago

President Donald Trump and the GOP-controlled Senate had a short response to House Democrats' new $3...

As i thought
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-dont-count-republicans-opposing-pelosis-panic-bill-make-sure/

"So yes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Republicans might promise that this bill is "dead on arrival" in the Senate, but it's only dead in this exact form. The more they focus on fighting the cranberry sauce and pecan pie of the bill, the more we will see them acquiesce to the turkey itself. Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football, this happens every time."

Senator cornyn was talking about the senate bill today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cassidy-menendez-propose-smart-fund-to-help-state-and-local-governments-due-to-covid-19/ar-BB12WwvF

NEW ORLEANS, La. (WVUE) - Louisiana U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, has teamed up with New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez to propose billions of dollars in help for state and local governments affected by the novel coronavirus pandemic.

"The proposed State and Municipal Aid Recovery and Transition (SMART) Fund would contain $500 billion to help states and local governments, according to Cassidy and Menendez, who discussed their plan with news media around the country on Monday (April 20)."

This bill is being worked on so i guess they didnt get the memo they cant write spending  bills. The Pelosi bill is  900 billion for states, this one is 500 billion so they will compromise at 750 billion. Trump IS GOING TO sign a state  bailout.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on May 17, 2020, 03:46:57 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-dont-count-republicans-opposing-pelosis-panic-bill-make-sure/

"So yes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Republicans might promise that this bill is "dead on arrival" in the Senate, but it's only dead in this exact form. The more they focus on fighting the cranberry sauce and pecan pie of the bill, the more we will see them acquiesce to the turkey itself. Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football, this happens every time."

Senator cornyn was talking about the senate bill today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cassidy-menendez-propose-smart-fund-to-help-state-and-local-governments-due-to-covid-19/ar-BB12WwvF

NEW ORLEANS, La. (WVUE) - Louisiana U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, has teamed up with New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez to propose billions of dollars in help for state and local governments affected by the novel coronavirus pandemic.

"The proposed State and Municipal Aid Recovery and Transition (SMART) Fund would contain $500 billion to help states and local governments, according to Cassidy and Menendez, who discussed their plan with news media around the country on Monday (April 20)."

This bill is being worked on so i guess they didnt get the memo they cant write spending  bills. The Pelosi bill is  900 billion for states, this one is 500 billion so they will compromise at 750 billion. Trump IS GOING TO sign a state  bailout.

Read that entire Horowitz piece and want to thank you for sharing it. Couldn't find a flaw in it, unfortunately. We'll soon find out; just how prescient is Horowitz!?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 05:21:37 AM
Quote from: WMK on May 17, 2020, 03:46:57 AM
Read that entire Horowitz piece and want to thank you for sharing it. Couldn't find a flaw in it, unfortunately. We'll soon find out; just how prescient is Horowitz!?

The sad thing is everyone here knows how republicans do things. The senate  is going to trim pelosi's  bill to 2.5 trillion, call it a conservative victory and move on. And Trump WILL sign it.

The bad part is Trump is holding all the cards. No bailout till every state is fully open but he is going to get bluffed and fold.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on May 17, 2020, 05:52:29 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 05:21:37 AM
The sad thing is everyone here knows how republicans do things. The senate  is going to trim pelosi's  bill to 2.5 trillion, call it a conservative victory and move on. And Trump WILL sign it.

The bad part is Trump is holding all the cards. No bailout till every state is fully open but he is going to get bluffed and fold.

So how many fingers do you need to count the republicans that will stand against this political shell game?  By myself, I have more than enough,IMO.


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 08:15:41 AM
Rand Paul? The article also points out its not too late. Let the president and your elected representatives know a yes on bailout=a no vote in Nov
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on May 17, 2020, 08:43:51 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 08:15:41 AM
Rand Paul? The article also points out its not too late. Let the president and your elected representatives know a yes on bailout=a no vote in Nov
So who would you vote for if not a Republican? A democrat to then strengthen what you say you disagree with in the first place? That makes alot of sense.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on May 17, 2020, 08:43:51 AM
So who would you vote for if not a Republican? A democrat to then strengthen what you say you disagree with in the first place? That makes alot of sense.

Im saying you have a chance to change things  now or be happy with paying to be  locked down longer.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 08:47:20 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYL2tGoXQAIfZv9?format=jpg&name=small)

The Virginian-Pilot
@virginianpilot
· 13h
The beach at the Virginia Beach Oceanfront was closed today. But it was packed.

This photo was taken at 3:42 p.m. this afternoon by Virginian-Pilot photographer Kaitlin McKeown. https://pilotonline.com/business/consu

Not all virginians are obeying stalinist dictator northam and his gestapo thugs. I have been to a small beach in newport news every damn day.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on May 17, 2020, 08:43:51 AM
So who would you vote for if not a Republican? A democrat to then strengthen what you say you disagree with in the first place? That makes alot of sense.

Conservatives stopped amnesty in congress several times by  being  vocal. You want to pay for  NYC being  locked down then just stay shut  up and accept it. Be happy to pay for CA, HI,IL,MA,WA, ORE, MI and others to lock down, or tell trump how you feel.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 17, 2020, 09:21:54 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 08:47:20 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYL2tGoXQAIfZv9?format=jpg&name=small)

The Virginian-Pilot
@virginianpilot
· 13h
The beach at the Virginia Beach Oceanfront was closed today. But it was packed.

This photo was taken at 3:42 p.m. this afternoon by Virginian-Pilot photographer Kaitlin McKeown. https://pilotonline.com/business/consu

Not all virginians are obeying stalinist dictator northam and his gestapo thugs. I have been to a small beach in newport news every damn day.

what's the deal here.   Click on link and page cannot be found...'or it has moved'.   

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 17, 2020, 09:33:30 AM
options for muzzles...I mean face masks.

https://www.dogpile.com/serp?q=face+mask+that+looks+like+a+muzzle&sc=7EhEZEaOHrm1HNAryodumwmIybZ2DMbrMJD62g8D_wloQko4MwZodrQ86iDrEcGpUGJ9aKkm6T4LzMwvvMtsgi-YdevepDpaQkpfYFUob8T5gP23o0cgdyHGOD_ebJcZ_RN24JNmDH3GMXd9V49IwAKEpOuJ7xS0GthH4qOYnJzlSjrbrq_PfQkQuALt0bKHllVUvi8-SA00ETZrfoTiaYr6zEjPmVtH-ukOvC8jML7wInCS-JiiTqpylMYYpel6nlyKgGKAGGzJjuxgH0eNPpjeqG6mGvpTmyrv2myOAJU409XeoaVEarzLvwL9EoDZsjicHan8nGZbyBN0VY29SH4vZ7A0JMPa-PBYLKaarx2e3WnymuGjq_zXdgHFKBJhOhFR_-DM32YGosAHmkNy20vmGFR0NdN_C_K_PaZ-l1Yj2EY4pqWDH2Us70Ewj9tVDB8-qktCEmEf9T2IDIaMY045D9BWn12KiYi74PuDR-MsLfowItM7vAg-J8UGwOuNBldHASqfPP0aKuuW0ZBo446VeJSj7UaGsvZhjJyLj4y4cIVthEA1As87ICHCbduQqU9GZOAa7W2jHvDr3HPK3zi2b9fVxvqxTnU6RFQtoGS2wzapHAIXJfVGWbvEGyBMxilxeurGsPzezlYM8CLHrLHo5lXZFJKEpz3Y09-vSx8OwMzz0JHZWZO6WA2a2oVRbWkhwPfwWx79Ivtqb6li-Lf5OowBiClYaCOtsluZdQjxH2rTOoFYFtuFBYIclW1caJcrIyQR7RVXWfRjeDzcQUeyk8Ar2sEHCDUgP0_rgqURglGkChPg3MQaI9zxiVvgCFt9GAyEI8aPMpPy8GZ4hEWTfJSuDB4_9P9EfWvyovrrA5T_64gJEISUlirYpHrQO4Qf42xz0Z7PdzrGR3xUHbNN5ynw1HaQup87hh0BOs76etWR1j08MQ3mDWpMZYYC7OavdU15m7z0iyXjyimJiG1S94D_tc6E_GYePwOiUd-vinK3pXeC-UnibkB53KepMHiPDyIyItmqZ4hrhakIONpt8rObU4c-WgmnEIYF7bA-WwMDxE6cr8mO4uyHvGWFCBrGwdBfkNGi9Y1vLTSAmac8dtnsltdSmYARy38t-ed2r7ZcISIwitqLQUtoxcpWP_z1v1aivK1uVbEVGQZwofWE1cjIlmOjZeJ2Aocwp7tNDY-Px-9dYdctLBU32uNEFsRRwEA_CP57NDP58wrOd1i0kC3_iKosFE0m7IObGpYbRmbyfs11vyj_FEbKyShXH9whP4gHVpBHNkrWter9lAz7S1x5O3bN-p3IidTa-LOmqAxWCVNJ30TonbwfqNbet9v4-u0mV4oUnQa41-4ZVqHEqwqiioIjMixlKsG9l9oFPxGq9kNDp0ZNMahfkQBk7cKYUJCSiyE-x_rSNF7gH5BU1Xk17eLB1BWcw1PXIS5ImlGG_kp5YjXtfjOGQWvUEi_LzCa9Tug98o1rkCLIiLSiBCZZ_z9s-LytURMTIGKHMxnw1Zh9jDRxgH9OVjaJTNBp2g43GbyNetmh-04Ls64RMU0pTeM_ZFdan73dScjLGZNWeVtfee74_pjPN_YAjjFhpW8Kpq80btX3u-yYR3TXZtvbihPOnq_9ImggpnIBQt5npeitziXj_hGXcm2eexKOH-qli38IxSf8k1LyM6Msz2eji87yoz1oPVkM26t03XMbK3CrEyqm3MHl-zY1JiBz_yCdnmrBQyz0_KV2zZFP232iprMTe8csdDEW9rTSpILBTS6STy5jEuhZZe3iO_V0noRo3lwyP10DZ1e8JJ-UyDIOx7ifDDA1iuwlSECn74PDL6Sa1TJy4bna9yo2baa-OTz_jK7hpFdLCG_tHShcWPlZ3HUn_S-B8yKR9QugyUA0kg-ypR0
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 17, 2020, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 16, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-dont-count-republicans-opposing-pelosis-panic-bill-make-sure/

"So yes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Republicans might promise that this bill is "dead on arrival" in the Senate, but it's only dead in this exact form. The more they focus on fighting the cranberry sauce and pecan pie of the bill, the more we will see them acquiesce to the turkey itself. Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football, this happens every time."

Senator cornyn was talking about the senate bill today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cassidy-menendez-propose-smart-fund-to-help-state-and-local-governments-due-to-covid-19/ar-BB12WwvF

NEW ORLEANS, La. (WVUE) - Louisiana U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Republican, has teamed up with New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez to propose billions of dollars in help for state and local governments affected by the novel coronavirus pandemic.

"The proposed State and Municipal Aid Recovery and Transition (SMART) Fund would contain $500 billion to help states and local governments, according to Cassidy and Menendez, who discussed their plan with news media around the country on Monday (April 20)."

This bill is being worked on so i guess they didnt get the memo they cant write spending  bills. The Pelosi bill is  900 billion for states, this one is 500 billion so they will compromise at 750 billion. Trump IS GOING TO sign a state  bailout.
There's no doubt they'll whittle it down, that's why Fuglosi padded the Hell out of it. The real question is, will Trump bail out Blue states? NO! all the States will get a fair cut, that's it!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 17, 2020, 09:56:23 AM
Antibody tests continue to suggest COVID-19 far more widespread, less deadly than initially thought

International alarm surrounding the coronavirus has been driven largely by early estimates about the death rate, but new antibody tests are significantly undercutting those projections.

In early March, for example, World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom declared that globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. He added, "by comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected."

For reasons that were unclear, Adhanom was comparing the death rate of reported COVID-19 cases to that of the total number of influenza infections. This kind of apples-to-oranges accounting is guaranteed to make the coronavirus death rate seem astronomically higher than that of the flu.

If the flu death rate were to be calculated the same way many public health officials have calculated the COVID-19 death rate, the mortality rate for seasonal influenza would be vastly higher than the relatively low number we have now. Most flu cases go undiagnosed, with health officials for the most part estimating rather than confirming the total number of cases each season. They ultimately calculate the mortality rates based on those estimates, not the actual confirmed cases.

Health officials during this pandemic have been slow to explore how many actual cases of COVID-19 exist throughout the population, instead basing their conclusions and policy recommendations on lab-confirmed infection rates. Yet a growing series of tests conducted by labs throughout the country suggest that, like influenza, COVID-19 is significantly more widespread than it seems — and that its death rate is consequently much lower than current numbers suggest.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/antibody-tests-continue-suggest-covid-19-far-more-widespread-less
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 17, 2020, 04:02:42 PM
From last month. Funny how it never hit the news. :rolleyes:


Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die

Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose "expert" advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses.

How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak - caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV - the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim.

The Virology Journal - the official publication of Dr. Fauci's National Institutes of Health - published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading - get ready for this - "Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread." (Emphasis mine throughout.) Write the researchers, "We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage."

Dr. Anthony FauciThis means, of course, that Dr. Fauci (pictured at right) has known for 15 years that chloroquine and it's even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus ("therapeutic") but prevent future cases ("prophylactic"). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other words, it's a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci's NIH in 2005, "concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection." Fauci's researchers add, "chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV."

More...

https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2020/04/27/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 17, 2020, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 17, 2020, 04:02:42 PM
From last month. Funny how it never hit the news. :rolleyes:


Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die

Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose "expert" advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses.

How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak - caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV - the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim.

The Virology Journal - the official publication of Dr. Fauci's National Institutes of Health - published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading - get ready for this - "Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread." (Emphasis mine throughout.) Write the researchers, "We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage."

Dr. Anthony FauciThis means, of course, that Dr. Fauci (pictured at right) has known for 15 years that chloroquine and it's even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus ("therapeutic") but prevent future cases ("prophylactic"). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other words, it's a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci's NIH in 2005, "concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection." Fauci's researchers add, "chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV."

More...

https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2020/04/27/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die


Now that a bombshell, hope he rots in hell not just jail.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 17, 2020, 09:45:05 AM
There's no doubt they'll whittle it down, that's why Fuglosi padded the Hell out of it. The real question is, will Trump bail out Blue states? NO! all the States will get a fair cut, that's it!

Fair cut? Cut of what? Peoples money from non locked down states?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-gop-crafting-wishlist-for-next-coronavirus-package/ar-BB141tyy

"Senate Republicans acknowledge that neither liability protection nor unemployment benefits reform is going to move on its own without significant concessions to Pelosi and the Democrats. They say Democrats will likely demand a high price for including liability protection in a future coronavirus bill."

Trump doesnt need to sign it

"Portman is floating a proposal under which workers would be allowed to keep a portion of their unemployment insurance if they go back to work.

"We're finding from employers back home that as they reopen, they're having a difficult time getting workers and part of it is because of the unemployment [insurance] issue," he said. "The idea is to allow them to take some of their $600 back to work with them.""

WTF? They get to go back to work and keep getting  paid  by the govt  for  not  working when they are working? Who needs Sanders when we  have republicans?

Trump doesnt need to sign it

"Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), meanwhile, is pushing an ambitious proposal for the federal government to cover 80 percent of wages - up to the national median wage - for workers at any U.S. business. He also wants to give businesses a bonus for rehiring laid-off workers."

Is Sanders writing the  republican bailout  bill?

Trump doesnt  need to sign it

"But privately they admit it's only a matter of time before another massive package passes."

After reading this It seems to me they may as well just  pass a govt  guaranteed  minumum wage and  let  people just stay home and  enjoy  life.
That part about paying people unemployment AFTER they are employed is  mindboggling. Seriously, if the govt has this much money then lets just all live off the govt
People thought Pellosi's bill was  bad. This bill will have almost all of what  pelosi wanted plus a bunch of  new republican goodies. 5 trillion?.WTH, make it10 trillion!!


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 07:08:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 17, 2020, 04:02:42 PM
From last month. Funny how it never hit the news. :rolleyes:


Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die

Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose "expert" advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses.

How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak - caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV - the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim.

The Virology Journal - the official publication of Dr. Fauci's National Institutes of Health - published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading - get ready for this - "Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread." (Emphasis mine throughout.) Write the researchers, "We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage."

Dr. Anthony FauciThis means, of course, that Dr. Fauci (pictured at right) has known for 15 years that chloroquine and it's even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus ("therapeutic") but prevent future cases ("prophylactic"). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other words, it's a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci's NIH in 2005, "concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection." Fauci's researchers add, "chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV."

More...

https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2020/04/27/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die

He is still advising Trump.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2020, 04:35:04 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2020, 07:08:44 PM
He is still advising Trump.
Have you not noticed Trump hasn't taken his advice in months? Trump is using him, letting the Blue States take Fauci's lead while Trump is encouraging reopening and returning to normal.
When all this is over, the left will look like the dictators they are. What states are putting moms in prison, yanking business licenses and fining the shit out of people?

You do know we have a Constitution, Right, one that dictates States Rights, Right? In other words, all Trump can do is encourage, he cannot dictate. He has Barr keeping an eye on them.

Think about it for a moment, this is the perfect opportunity to expose the left for what they are, control freaks that will destroy you if you don't follow their rules.
Why do you need a license to be a barber? Because leftist run schools would go out of business because it would go back to the way it always worked, without govt interference, OJT Apprenticeships.

Are you listening? Half the businesses out there do not need a license to operate, it's all about money, power and control!!!  Trump is exposing what the left is all about, it's pure genius!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 18, 2020, 04:44:44 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 04:35:04 AM
Have you not noticed Trump hasn't taken his advice in months? Trump is using him, letting the Blue States take Fauci's lead while Trump is encouraging reopening and returning to normal.
When all this is over, the left will look like the dictators they are. What states are putting moms in prison, yanking business licenses and fining the shit out of people?

You do know we have a Constitution, Right, one that dictates States Rights, Right? In other words, all Trump can do is encourage, he cannot dictate. He has Barr keeping an eye on them.

Think about it for a moment, this is the perfect opportunity to expose the left for what they are, control freaks that will destroy you if you don't follow their rules.
Why do you need a license to be a barber? Because leftist run schools would go out of business because it would go back to the way it always worked, without govt interference, OJT Apprenticeships.

Are you listening? Half the businesses out there do not need a license to operate, it's all about money, power and control!!!  Trump is exposing what the left is all about, it's pure genius!!!
By the time the election gets close, most of the blue states will have been sued by their citizens to get the state reopened. It will be the blue states
who have to justify why they are trampling on the constitutional rights. And of course it will be the blue states who are screaming for more federal money, not to
fight the virus but to bail them out. And some think this will hurt Trump's chances of getting elected????? And the dems are putting up a man who
can not string three sentences together without forgetting what he was saying??? Trump must be running scared.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2020, 04:48:55 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 18, 2020, 04:44:44 AM
By the time the election gets close, most of the blue states will have been sued by their citizens to get the state reopened. It will be the blue states
who have to justify why they are trampling on the constitutional rights. And of course it will be the blue states who are screaming for more federal money, not to
fight the virus but to bail them out. And some think this will hurt Trump's chances of getting elected????? And the dems are putting up a man who
can not string three sentences together without forgetting what he was saying??? Trump must be running scared.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Exactly!!! The Dims hope to run the clock out while trying to destroy our economy. Do they really think the people will allow this to go on until November? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 07:58:08 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 04:48:55 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Exactly!!! The Dims hope to run the clock out while trying to destroy our economy. Do they really think the people will allow this to go on until November? :rolleyes:

Yes, when trump bails out the states they can stay locked up as long as they want because they will keep getting bailed  out.
Fauci and Birx wrote the guidelines and trump hasnt  dropped them so he  is  listening to Fauci.
There is several things trump can do. File lawsuits  in every  lockdown state. Bring unemployed people  onstage. Bring victims of civils rights abuse  on stage
And  most important, Declare with no wiggle room there will be  no state  bailout till every state is 100% open without any restriction
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2020, 08:02:39 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 07:58:08 AM
Yes, when trump bails out the states they can stay locked up as long as they want because they will keep getting bailed  out.
You have proof of this?
QuoteFauci and Birx wrote the guidelines and trump hasnt  dropped them so he  is  listening to Fauci.
Really? Aside from the shutdown, show me where Trump is following their recommendations.

QuoteThere is several things trump can do. File lawsuits  in every  lockdown state.
Under what law?

QuoteBring unemployed people  onstage. Bring victims of civils rights abuse  on stage
And  most important, Declare with no wiggle room there will be  no state  bailout till every state is 100% open without any restriction
And you can prove he's done none of this?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 18, 2020, 08:06:25 AM
Pretty suspicious in my opinion that  these big box
stores got to stay open.  Lowes, home depot. WALMART.
This is right up Wally World's play book...theyre getting
the government to destroy their opposition.   Once Walmart
has a lock on merchandise..you will buy what they want you
to buy.. you will do without what they decide you don't need.
You will pay what they say. And they will support the left
to continue to remove your freedom and rights.
Big chain restaurants and fast food joints can withstand this.
Little local restaurants and stores can't make it.   Why...it
almost looks like some kinda deal was made.  Doesn't it??
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:11:03 AM
This is what Trump should say

Steve Deace
@SteveDeaceShow
·
3h
No federal money for any state denying its citizens its rights and liberties. If you want to stay closed and intercourse yourselves because you hate Trump that much, do that dumbassery on your dime then. No taxpayer compensation for self-immolation.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 18, 2020, 08:12:16 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:11:03 AM
This is what Trump should say

Steve Deace
@SteveDeaceShow
·
3h
No federal money for any state denying its citizens its rights and liberties.
If you want to stay closed and intercourse yourselves because you hate Trump
that much, do that dumbassery on your dime then. No taxpayer compensation
for self-immolation.


AWESOME...and worded JUST that way.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 18, 2020, 08:06:25 AM
Pretty suspicious in my opinion that  these big box
stores got to stay open.  Lowes, home depot. WALMART.
This is right up Wally World's play book...theyre getting
the government to destroy their opposition.   Once Walmart
has a lock on merchandise..you will buy what they want you
to buy.. you will do without what they decide you don't need.
You will pay what they say. And they will support the left
to continue to remove your freedom and rights.
Big chain restaurants and fast food joints can withstand this.
Little local restaurants and stores can't make it.   Why...it
almost looks like some kinda deal was made.  Doesn't it??

They make big  contributions. Since reps are now  on the socialist train I am all for a windfall profits tax on all big  box stores. They are raking  in money while govt shuts down thier  competition
That goes for big  chain restaurants as well
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:17:54 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 08:02:39 AM
You have proof of this?Really? Aside from the shutdown, show me where Trump is following their recommendations.
Under what law?
And you can prove he's done none of this?

Im still waiting for your  proof the economy was going to skyrocket when the  on switched was pushed. I won that one. Oh, and carefully reread all your  posts, you will find you  yourself said bailouts will cause states  not to re-open.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:21:18 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 18, 2020, 08:12:16 AM
AWESOME...and worded JUST that way.

Totally agree
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 18, 2020, 08:24:16 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:17:54 AM
Im still waiting for your  proof the economy was going to skyrocket when the  on switched was pushed. I won that one. Oh, and carefully reread all your  posts, you will find you  yourself said bailouts will cause states  not to re-open.
in my opinion, I believe the people who make this country work, would bring this economy back quickly and gangbusters...it is the blue state tyrants that will be the reason for any delay.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 18, 2020, 08:29:19 AM
I may have posted this here but i'll do it again because it bears repeating and spreading.

"WE are ALL IN this Togerher"

NO. WE ARE NOT 'All in this Together'.
Politicians, State and local officials have not given up one
paycheck.   They have not plowed under one field or slaughtered
their livestock or dumped their milk.  THey have not Lost their
homes or business or job.

They haven't laid awake all night wondering how they were going
to feed their families or pay their bills.

As they continue to enforce some of their draconian restrictions,
not ONE of them is suffering from their own decisions.   Indeed they
and their Hollywood allies are holed up in palatial mansions eating
designer ice cream from their $48,000 freezers.  Some are even
taking the opportunity to have their cosmetic surgeries done.

They are NOT now and NEVER will be Any Part of "WE" in this.
Those of you with your engines idling is "P", What part of this
do you not get.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on May 18, 2020, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 04:35:04 AM
Have you not noticed Trump hasn't taken his advice in months? Trump is using him, letting the Blue States take Fauci's lead while Trump is encouraging reopening and returning to normal.
When all this is over, the left will look like the dictators they are. What states are putting moms in prison, yanking business licenses and fining the shit out of people?


You do know we have a Constitution, Right, one that dictates States Rights, Right? In other words, all Trump can do is encourage, he cannot dictate. He has Barr keeping an eye on them.

Think about it for a moment, this is the perfect opportunity to expose the left for what they are, control freaks that will destroy you if you don't follow their rules.
Why do you need a license to be a barber? Because leftist run schools would go out of business because it would go back to the way it always worked, without govt interference, OJT Apprenticeships.

Are you listening? Half the businesses out there do not need a license to operate, it's all about money, power and control!!!  Trump is exposing what the left is all about, it's pure genius!!!

Like Rahm Emanuel stated and I quote...........""You never want a serious crisis to go to waste"
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2020, 09:17:29 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:14:08 AM
They make big  contributions. Since reps are now  on the socialist train I am all for a windfall profits tax on all big  box stores. They are raking  in money while govt shuts down thier  competition
That goes for big  chain restaurants as well
my, how leftist of you. :sneaky:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2020, 09:20:08 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:17:54 AM
Im still waiting for your  proof the economy was going to skyrocket when the  on switched was pushed. I won that one. Oh, and carefully reread all your  posts, you will find you  yourself said bailouts will cause states  not to re-open.
Really, you're waiting for my response for something that won't occur until business returns. How dumb are you?
Now, you conveniently skipped over my other reply to you!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2020, 09:22:29 AM
Quote from: Bronx on May 18, 2020, 08:43:16 AM
Like Rahm Emanuel stated and I quote...........""You never want a serious crisis to go to waste"
There it is!!! Thank God there aren't that many Blue States to effect the economy in any real meaningful way.
They can only hurt the people of their respective states, but the economy will move on without them.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2020, 11:39:14 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 18, 2020, 08:24:16 AM
in my opinion, I believe the people who make this country work, would bring this economy back quickly and gangbusters...it is the blue state tyrants that will be the reason for any delay.
Exactly! And why I'm all for them continuing their idiocy.

Heavy-thumbed Democratic guvs a boon for Trump, says pundit

A conservative political scientist and election analyst believes the continued restrictions being imposed by Democratic governors in four key swing state economies will help President Donald Trump capture those states again in November.
Snip...

A recent CNN poll (see page 27) of almost 600 registered voters in 15 key battleground states – including these four – showed Trump with a seven-point lead (52% to 45%) over presumed Democratic nominee Joe Biden when asked who they would be more likely to vote for. But as OneNewsNow reported over the weekend, the left-leaning network allegedly attempted to discount and hide those poll results.

https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2020/05/18/heavy-thumbed-democratic-guvs-a-boon-for-trump-says-pundit
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 18, 2020, 03:28:05 PM
Another Dim Guv attempts to bring more pain to their electorate. :sneaky:

Connecticut Governor Pushes Back Reopening of Hair Salons, Barbershops

Hair salons and barbershops won't resume operations on May 20, Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont suddenly announced Monday.

The businesses won't reopen before early June, the Democrat said.

"We've been hearing a lot of feedback, and at this time I think the best approach is that we hit pause on the reopening of hair salons and barbershops, take a step back, and allow some more time as preparations continue to be made," Lamont said in a statement.

According to the governor's office, he and Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo have chosen to align the reopening of hair salons and barbershops in their two states.

The office said Lamont had "extensive discussions" with business owners and employees before making the decision.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/connecticut-governor-pushes-back-reopening-of-hair-salons-barbershops_3355432.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 18, 2020, 06:00:32 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:11:03 AM
This is what Trump should say

Steve Deace
@SteveDeaceShow
·
3h
No federal money for any state denying its citizens its rights and liberties. If you want to stay closed and intercourse yourselves because you hate Trump that much, do that dumbassery on your dime then. No taxpayer compensation for self-immolation.
Is Trump paying you yet for all the advice?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 19, 2020, 05:49:47 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 03:28:05 PM
Another Dim Guv attempts to bring more pain to their electorate. :sneaky:

Connecticut Governor Pushes Back Reopening of Hair Salons, Barbershops

Hair salons and barbershops won't resume operations on May 20, Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont suddenly announced Monday.

The businesses won't reopen before early June, the Democrat said.

"We've been hearing a lot of feedback, and at this time I think the best approach is that we hit pause on the reopening of hair salons and barbershops, take a step back, and allow some more time as preparations continue to be made," Lamont said in a statement.

According to the governor's office, he and Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo have chosen to align the reopening of hair salons and barbershops in their two states.

The office said Lamont had "extensive discussions" with business owners and employees before making the decision.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/connecticut-governor-pushes-back-reopening-of-hair-salons-barbershops_3355432.html

These democrat governors just keep on digging don't they?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on May 19, 2020, 06:04:44 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 19, 2020, 05:49:47 AM
These democrat governors just keep on digging don't they?
But they keep getting reelected so it must be what the people want.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 19, 2020, 06:22:22 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 19, 2020, 05:49:47 AM
These democrat governors just keep on digging don't they?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Hell, they're out there hitting their constituents with the shovel like the walking dead.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 19, 2020, 08:26:22 AM

Just another Marxist Guv campaigning for Trump. :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1262751112832024577
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 19, 2020, 09:04:12 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-house-vaccine-czar-sells-12-million-slug-moderna-options-massive-profit?fbclid=IwAR1wX9lla6rhyJaq1JW-myEWg1-4YUwZoJQoaXH6hmBPyk-q9mzJ4qLMqBM (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-house-vaccine-czar-sells-12-million-slug-moderna-options-massive-profit?fbclid=IwAR1wX9lla6rhyJaq1JW-myEWg1-4YUwZoJQoaXH6hmBPyk-q9mzJ4qLMqBM)

Trumps new ultra  rich liberal vaccine czar just  made a  nice tidy  profit. He and  Fauci are  making a fortune.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 19, 2020, 09:07:15 AM
I just posted another topic talking about how these guys are connected to vaccine networks.

It would be interesting to see how many congressmen own stock in these companies...and the face mask market. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 19, 2020, 09:28:01 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 19, 2020, 09:07:15 AM
I just posted another topic talking about how these guys are connected to vaccine networks.

It would be interesting to see how many congressmen own stock in these companies...and the face mask market.

Quite a few im sure. Hannity as well. He never quits yapping about wearing a  mask
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on May 19, 2020, 11:09:33 AM
https://www.facebook.com/thevinehouseripon/posts/640031323245272

I know this young woman.  She had just opened her "dream" restaurant and bar before things went crazy.  She is keeping a great attitude but it is a struggle.

It is a shame what the politicians have done (Newsom/Pelosi) to the small business owner.  What do they care - Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2020, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 18, 2020, 08:17:54 AM
Im still waiting for your  proof the economy was going to skyrocket when the  on switched was pushed. I won that one. Oh, and carefully reread all your  posts, you will find you  yourself said bailouts will cause states  not to re-open.
Still waiting for a response.

Quote from: Solar on May 18, 2020, 08:02:39 AM
You have proof of this?Really? Aside from the shutdown, show me where Trump is following their recommendations.
Under what law?
And you can prove he's done none of this?

GOP weighs jobless aid cuts to urge Americans back to work

https://apnews.com/1d21c8f255eada604f29f24b98a88ce2

White House as Republicans stake out new plans to phase out coronavirus-related unemployment benefits
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2020, 08:50:15 PM
All Four Iowa Democratic Senate Candidates Reject Pelosi's Coronavirus Bill

All four of Iowa's Democratic Senate candidates said they would not support House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D., Calif.) latest coronavirus relief bill during a primary debate Tuesday.

Progressives Eddie Mauro and Kimberly Graham, both of whom support far-left policies such as the Green New Deal and Medicare for All, agreed the bill's current form was unacceptable. Theresa Greenfield, who has the backing of national party leaders, questioned "how we're going to pay for it." Navy veteran Mike Franken said that while he appreciates Pelosi's "leadership," he found the legislation to be unrefined.

https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/all-four-iowa-democratic-senate-candidates-reject-pelosis-coronavirus-bill/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 21, 2020, 08:59:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 21, 2020, 08:50:15 PM
All Four Iowa Democratic Senate Candidates Reject Pelosi's Coronavirus Bill

All four of Iowa's Democratic Senate candidates said they would not support House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D., Calif.) latest coronavirus relief bill during a primary debate Tuesday.

Progressives Eddie Mauro and Kimberly Graham, both of whom support far-left policies such as the Green New Deal and Medicare for All, agreed the bill's current form was unacceptable. Theresa Greenfield, who has the backing of national party leaders, questioned "how we're going to pay for it." Navy veteran Mike Franken said that while he appreciates Pelosi's "leadership," he found the legislation to be unrefined.

https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/all-four-iowa-democratic-senate-candidates-reject-pelosis-coronavirus-bill/

It sounds like Pelosi's is in over her head.  She is losing her leadership more and more each day. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on May 21, 2020, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 21, 2020, 08:50:15 PM
All Four Iowa Democratic Senate Candidates Reject Pelosi's Coronavirus Bill

All four of Iowa's Democratic Senate candidates said they would not support House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D., Calif.) latest coronavirus relief bill during a primary debate Tuesday.

Progressives Eddie Mauro and Kimberly Graham, both of whom support far-left policies such as the Green New Deal and Medicare for All, agreed the bill's current form was unacceptable. Theresa Greenfield, who has the backing of national party leaders, questioned "how we're going to pay for it." Navy veteran Mike Franken said that while he appreciates Pelosi's "leadership," he found the legislation to be unrefined.

https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/all-four-iowa-democratic-senate-candidates-reject-pelosis-coronavirus-bill/
Sounds like all the freshman reps that said they wouldn't support Pelosi for speaker if they were elected and then did it anyway.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 22, 2020, 07:07:57 AM
Michigan Barber Who Flouted Whitmer's Lockdown Can Remain Open, Judge Rules

A Michigan barbershop owner who had his license suspended after he cut hair during Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's "non-essential" business shutdown will not have to close shop, a judge ruled on May 21.

Shiawassee County Judge Matthew Stewart said Thursday that the state health department had failed to show that Karl Manke's shop—Karl Manke Main Street, Barber & Beauty Shop—in Owosso, a small town between Lansing and Flint, "has the potential to spread COVID-19 around the state."

Judge Stewart said in his opinion that the Michigan Attorney General's Office did not provide reasons why Manke's shop posed a threat to public health.

https://www.ntd.com/michigan-barber-who-flouted-whitmers-lockdown-can-remain-open-judge-rules_468275.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 22, 2020, 07:56:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 22, 2020, 07:07:57 AM
Michigan Barber Who Flouted Whitmer's Lockdown Can Remain Open, Judge Rules

A Michigan barbershop owner who had his license suspended after he cut hair during Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's "non-essential" business shutdown will not have to close shop, a judge ruled on May 21.

Shiawassee County Judge Matthew Stewart said Thursday that the state health department had failed to show that Karl Manke's shop—Karl Manke Main Street, Barber & Beauty Shop—in Owosso, a small town between Lansing and Flint, "has the potential to spread COVID-19 around the state."

Judge Stewart said in his opinion that the Michigan Attorney General's Office did not provide reasons why Manke's shop posed a threat to public health.

https://www.ntd.com/michigan-barber-who-flouted-whitmers-lockdown-can-remain-open-judge-rules_468275.html

We are going to see more of this as many states begin to reopen. It is encouraging to me. These leftist democrat mayors and governors will pay a price in many places.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 22, 2020, 07:59:21 AM
I hope to see this retaliation in Virginia for more than just this fake shut down.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 22, 2020, 01:47:19 PM
LOL   Axios and some left wing media alphabet network...>Covid cases on the rise in the south.

https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2020/05/coronavirus-cases-rise-across-south/

When did north and south Dakota become the south?  LOLOL

scroll down to comments in above link.  pretty funny.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 23, 2020, 04:09:35 PM
ROFL!!! Whitmer's policies come back to bite her in the ass!

In late March Michigan Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer limited access of doctors from prescribing the lifesaving drugs hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks to save senior citizens in the state from Coronavirus.  Then she continued to send coronavirus patients to nursing homes.  This is still happening in May!

And in her latest unexplainable move the far left governor banned motorboats and jet skis but canoes and sailboats were acceptable.


On Friday an employee at a dock in northern Michigan shared an interesting story about a phone call with Gretchen Whitmer's husband on Friday.
This was just days after Whitmer finally lifted her nonsensical ban on motorboating.


(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/gretchen-huband.jpg)

www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/back-line-gretchen-whitmers-husband-tries-cut-line-michigan-boaters-banned-motor-boats-2-months/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 23, 2020, 04:51:06 PM
AWESOME!   givin' it BACK to them.

And Amy Klobuchar whom Biden asked to submit info for vetting...her husband was taking hydroxychloroquine. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 10:32:43 AM
Mo ron virtue signaling.
That is funny about her fake eyelashes...but the fact that covid is sooooo teensy that she thinks a crocheted mask is going to protect her is ludicrous.

(https://digitalcoinowner.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/am-4.png)


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 24, 2020, 11:18:29 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 10:32:43 AM
Mo ron virtue signaling.
That is funny about her fake eyelashes...but the fact that covid is sooooo teensy that she thinks a crocheted mask is going to protect her is ludicrous.

(https://digitalcoinowner.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/am-4.png)
Classic! Not one guy would catch this but she did. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 11:52:09 AM
I'm sitting here at home depot parking lot in the rain as my friend runs in for a product.  Watching people with masks on.  One drops their bag of trash as they exit their car.  So much for care for your fellow  man.  Someone has to pick that up.  And who knows what youve been. doing  litter bug.  Another couple masked.  He takes his little white peekaboo out to pee in the parking lot.  Not on grass just across the drive but in the lot.  Nasty  old man.   Yeah.  The new normal is the same old same old but with mask wezring  moral superiority..  We're Iin This together...in a pigs eye.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 12:05:49 PM
Today,  governor conman northam traveled to va beach to reopen the beaches.  Unfortunately for him everyone else got there first and opened it themselves.  He recommended. Continued social distancing and masks....but not for him
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on May 24, 2020, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 12:05:49 PM
Today,  governor conman northam traveled to va beach to reopen the beaches.  Unfortunately for him everyone else got there first and opened it themselves.  He recommended. Continued social distancing and masks....but not for him

Ha ha...wish I could have seen the look on his face when he realized just how insignificant he and his edicts had become in trying to suppress the freedoms of American citizens.

Gov. Northam, you work for them, they don't work for you!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 24, 2020, 01:55:20 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 11:52:09 AM
I'm sitting here at home depot parking lot in the rain as my friend runs in for a product.  Watching people with masks on.  One drops their bag of trash as they exit their car.  So much for care for your fellow  man.  Someone has to pick that up.  And who knows what youve been. doing  litter bug.  Another couple masked.  He takes his little white peekaboo out to pee in the parking lot.  Not on grass just across the drive but in the lot.  Nasty  old man.   Yeah.  The new normal is the same old same old but with mask wezring  moral superiority..  We're Iin This together...in a pigs eye.
Interesting. Here in my county, and the town of Placerville, better known to the rest of the Nation as Hangtown, the Home Despot and other stores aren't using masks at all.
Calif may have fallen for the big lie, but not my county.
Sure, Tahoe and border towns to the Capitol are playing along, but not the rest of us and the Sheriff refuses to play either.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: solarInteresting. Here in my county, and the town of Placerville, better known to the rest of the Nation as Hangtown, the Home Despot and other stores aren't using masks at all.

I'm in virginia...the temporary home of that blackfaced blue tyrant Gov. Coonman  Nawtham.       

BIG liberal run town.   dumb bastardos.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 24, 2020, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 01:58:17 PM
I'm in virginia...the temporary home of that blackfaced blue tyrant Gov. Coonman  Nawtham.       

BIG liberal run town.   dumb bastardos.
:lol:
Yep, on par with of guv, Newcellini.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 25, 2020, 10:49:34 AM
 :rolleyes: Is anyone really surprised?

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1264962446906753028
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 25, 2020, 11:22:42 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 25, 2020, 10:49:34 AM
:rolleyes: Is anyone really surprised?

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1264962446906753028

If that is the case the WHO can waive good bye to any funding from the USA.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 25, 2020, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 25, 2020, 11:22:42 AM
If that is the case the WHO can waive good bye to any funding from the USA.
Exactly! With more than 50 years of success in treating COVID and Malaria in the past, and the fact that Africa is not seeing the outbreak that so many leftists predicted, it's safe to say, if WHO hates it, we need to continue its use.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 26, 2020, 04:35:27 AM
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/530994933393a8a7ea870eb2feb8d703dc460cf88378a2d771f467504dca7e16.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 26, 2020, 05:15:02 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 25, 2020, 10:49:34 AM
:rolleyes: Is anyone really surprised?

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1264962446906753028

Let me start by saying I haven't read this entire thread so I don't know if this information has been shared but if so let me apologize in advance. This whole thing has been a scam from the start. The NIH, CDC, WHO and especially the little lying hypocrite Anthony Fauci knew that chloroquine wasn't effective treatment for SARS covid type viruses because he did a study on it all the way back in 2005. You can save some time by skipping the timeline and moving it up to minute 5 and still get the impact of what I'm talking about

https://youtu.be/7hvkq-R1QGU
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 26, 2020, 06:21:28 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 26, 2020, 05:15:02 AM
Let me start by saying I haven't read this entire thread so I don't know if this information has been shared but if so let me apologize in advance. This whole thing has been a scam from the start. The NIH, CDC, WHO and especially the little lying hypocrite Anthony Fauci knew that chloroquine wasn't effective treatment for SARS covid type viruses because he did a study on it all the way back in 2005. You can save some time by skipping the timeline and moving it up to minute 5 and still get the impact of what I'm talking about

https://youtu.be/7hvkq-R1QGU
I think you had a typo, it should have read "Fauci knew that chloroquine was effective". That's why Trump was taking it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 26, 2020, 06:39:20 AM
Yes it was and thank you for pointing it out. I will be more diligent at proofreading my posts. Also I do my posting from an Android phone and I also use speech to text because I never learned to type. The problem is Google has felled miserably in comprehending my elocution
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 26, 2020, 07:06:48 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 26, 2020, 06:39:20 AM
Yes it was and thank you for pointing it out. I will be more diligent at proofreading my posts. Also I do my posting from an Android phone and I also use speech to text because I never learned to type. The problem is Google has felled miserably in comprehending my elocution
No big, I knew it was a typo, we, or rather I, do it all the time, some point it out, while others let me suffer a week before pointing it out. :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 26, 2020, 08:14:17 AM
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_may26

At strongly  approve/disapprove  he  is at  -16. I know everyone will just  laugh it  off but  he  is  losing the  base by  not  leading a  movement.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 26, 2020, 08:45:15 AM
And your point? Trump has only twice hit 40% approval in these polls since 2018, and never went any higher, while his disapproval's have never hit the medium of 50%.
Point is, polls can never be trusted because not everyone who responds, not to mention a 24/7 LSM assault on Trump. Think back to when every poll said Hillary would win decisively in 2016.

One thing polls will never capture is emotion, neither the apathy of the left, nor the exuberance on the right, meaning every poll should be taken with a grain of salt.

Your need for Trump's failure clouds you ability to read the public.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 26, 2020, 10:20:22 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 26, 2020, 08:14:17 AM
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_may26

At strongly  approve/disapprove  he  is at  -16. I know everyone will just  laugh it  off but  he  is  losing the  base by  not  leading a  movement.

I'm not going ask how stupid can you be because you sound like the type person that would take it as a personal challenge. I'll just consider your post a personal best
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 26, 2020, 10:37:59 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 26, 2020, 10:20:22 AM
I'm not going ask how stupid can you be because you sound like the type person that would take it as a personal challenge. I'll just consider your post a personal best

I see you have his number all ready.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 26, 2020, 10:38:43 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 26, 2020, 10:20:22 AM
I'm not going ask how stupid can you be because you sound like the type person that would take it as a personal challenge. I'll just consider your post a personal best
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It's all he's got.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 26, 2020, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 26, 2020, 08:14:17 AM
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_may26

At strongly  approve/disapprove  he  is at  -16. I know everyone will just  laugh it  off but  he  is  losing the  base by  not  leading a  movement.

STILL getting it as wrong as your side got it in 2016.  LOLOL

If the media says his approval is at 42% I will guarantee you that it is 10 to 12 points higher.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Zouave on May 26, 2020, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 21, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
Get ready, the WuFlu is about to knock the Dims Impeachment off the front page. Seriously, this thing is spreading fast.

This idiot is part of the trump team. Dangerous evil in a powerful position running on the spot going nowhere watching Americans die.

"I truly do believe that if we all continue to do that kind of social distancing and other guidance broadly from federal and state officials, that we're going to put this coronavirus in the past," Pence said on Geraldo Rivera's radio show Friday. "I believe by early June we're going to see our nation largely past this epidemic.... I think honestly, if you look at the trends today, that I think by Memorial Day weekend we will have this coronavirus epidemic behind us," he added.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 26, 2020, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: Zouave on May 26, 2020, 11:19:53 AM
"I truly do believe that if we all continue to do that kind of social distancing and other guidance broadly from federal and state officials, that we're going to put this coronavirus in the past," Pence said on Geraldo Rivera's radio show Friday. "I believe by early June we're going to see our nation largely past this epidemic.... I think honestly, if you look at the trends today, that I think by Memorial Day weekend we will have this coronavirus epidemic behind us," he added.

they're being very politically correct to assuage the delicate sensibilities of the gullible left
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 26, 2020, 11:52:21 AM
Quote from: Zouave on May 26, 2020, 11:19:53 AM
"I truly do believe that if we all continue to do that kind of social distancing and other guidance broadly from federal and state officials, that we're going to put this coronavirus in the past," Pence said on Geraldo Rivera's radio show Friday. "I believe by early June we're going to see our nation largely past this epidemic.... I think honestly, if you look at the trends today, that I think by Memorial Day weekend we will have this coronavirus epidemic behind us," he added.
Ummm, OK, so you know how to quote, not really impressed. Pence was Right as well. Did you happen to notice my prediction was spot on? Note the date...

Quote from: Solar on January 21, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
Get ready, the WuFlu is about to knock the Dims Impeachment off the front page. Seriously, this thing is spreading fast.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Zouave on May 26, 2020, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 26, 2020, 11:52:21 AM
Ummm, OK, so you know how to quote, not really impressed. Pence was Right as well. Did you happen to notice my prediction was spot on? Note the date...
You are correct that it is still spreading and quite quickly. Too bad the White House cannot generate a much more coordinated response to control it. Trump seems to be full of baseless hope and I hope it is just him and that he is not heeding advice from his team in the swamp. If what he is saying comes from his team God help us.
His thin skinned paranoia has driven his efforts away from helping  the American people to fighting those he imagines are out to get him.  He is the president for "F" sakes there will always be someone out to get him just like Obama, Bush, Reagan, etc.  but they could handle it. They did not have tantrums.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 26, 2020, 05:19:19 PM
Quote from: Zouave on May 26, 2020, 04:56:29 PM
You are correct that it is still spreading and quite quickly. Too bad the White House cannot generate a much more coordinated response to control it. Trump seems to be full of baseless hope and I hope it is just him and that he is not heeding advice from his team in the swamp. If what he is saying comes from his team God help us.
His thin skinned paranoia has driven his efforts away from helping  the American people to fighting those he imagines are out to get him.  He is the president for "F" sakes there will always be someone out to get him just like Obama, Bush, Reagan, etc.  but they could handle it. They did not have tantrums.

I think you may be a perfect example of why the founding fathers didn't let women vote from the beginning. You focused on Trump rather than the true culprits. That would include China the CDC  the WHO the NIH the LSM and the Democrat Party. All I've been doing there best to lock this country down for no good reason and to propagate a false narrative. Shame on you.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 26, 2020, 05:49:24 PM
Quote from: Zouave on May 26, 2020, 04:56:29 PM
You are correct that it is still spreading and quite quickly. Too bad the White House cannot generate a much more coordinated response to control it. Trump seems to be full of baseless hope and I hope it is just him and that he is not heeding advice from his team in the swamp. If what he is saying comes from his team God help us.
His thin skinned paranoia has driven his efforts away from helping  the American people to fighting those he imagines are out to get him.  He is the president for "F" sakes there will always be someone out to get him just like Obama, Bush, Reagan, etc.  but they could handle it. They did not have tantrums.
Did you even note the date of the post you originally quoted? Solar on January 21, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
At this point we're on the downside of the Commie Flu.

As to the rest of your rambling nonsense, Trump was targeted by Obozo, that's why they needed to silence Flynn, and that's why the entire Obozo team is going down.
Again, not the date I just told you Obozos admin is going down, and check back after trump wins in a landslide, maybe around March of 2021.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 27, 2020, 05:02:31 AM
Quote from: Zouave on May 26, 2020, 04:56:29 PM
You are correct that it is still spreading and quite quickly. Too bad the White House cannot generate a much more coordinated response to control it. Trump seems to be full of baseless hope and I hope it is just him and that he is not heeding advice from his team in the swamp. If what he is saying comes from his team God help us.
His thin skinned paranoia has driven his efforts away from helping  the American people to fighting those he imagines are out to get him.  He is the president for "F" sakes there will always be someone out to get him just like Obama, Bush, Reagan, etc.  but they could handle it. They did not have tantrums.

"Too bad the White House cannot generate a much more coordinated response to control it."

Is your idea of controlling the virus is everybody lock themselves inside their residence? If not that, what do you suggest to control it?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 27, 2020, 05:41:45 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 27, 2020, 05:02:31 AM
"Too bad the White House cannot generate a much more coordinated response to control it."

Is your idea of controlling the virus is everybody lock themselves inside their residence? If not that, what do you suggest to control it?
Cowering in his moms basement has worked out just fine for him so far. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 27, 2020, 06:02:33 AM
I made mention of this over a month ago, but knew why no one in the media wanted to point it out, knowing full well they'd be called out over telling the obvious truth.
Wonder if the LSM will throw a fit?

Coronavirus Kills More People In Democratic Areas

The CCP virus is killing more people in Democratic areas than in Republican ones. Over three-quarters of all the deaths from the virus have been in counties where Hilary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016.

At NTD, we took a look at the data from all 3,142 counties, or county-equivalents, in the United States.

We compared the way these counties voted in the 2016 presidential election to their death rates from COVID-19.

The results we found are surprising.

Video at link...

https://www.ntd.com/coronavirus-kills-more-people-in-democratic-areas_469730.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 27, 2020, 07:38:14 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 27, 2020, 06:02:33 AM
I made mention of this over a month ago, but knew why no one in the media wanted to point it out, knowing full well they'd be called out over telling the obvious truth.
Wonder if the LSM will throw a fit?

Coronavirus Kills More People In Democratic Areas

The CCP virus is killing more people in Democratic areas than in Republican ones. Over three-quarters of all the deaths from the virus have been in counties where Hilary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016.

At NTD, we took a look at the data from all 3,142 counties, or county-equivalents, in the United States.

We compared the way these counties voted in the 2016 presidential election to their death rates from COVID-19.

The results we found are surprising.

Video at link...

https://www.ntd.com/coronavirus-kills-more-people-in-democratic-areas_469730.html

I found it interesting that based on the data county by county that Democrat had more deaths from covid-19 then Republican counties. That begs the question over why that is. They seem to have speculated on a more dense population in democrat-controlled cities but that didn't seem to pan out when they're considered Hong Kong with very dense population but fewer deaths. I don't recall reasoning that they found any definite conclusions. I'm not a doctor but I do have a theory. The reason that there was more death in Democrat areas than than in Republican areas is because of pre-existing conditions. I hear the screams of protest but hear me out. The health of the body depends on not only the body  but the Mind and Spirit as well. If any one or two of these is deficient or compromised the entire body as a whole is affected which in turn compromises the immune system. What we know for certain is that the left has no soul which is connected to the spirit so that part has been compromised. We know that their mind is evil what little there is of it, so if they had one more brain cell it would surely die of loneliness. In conclusion my hypothesis would be that they are mentally and spiritually compromised which in turn has compromised their immune system that has led to more deaths in the dementedcRat cities.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 27, 2020, 08:02:07 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 27, 2020, 07:38:14 AM
I found it interesting that based on the data county by county that Democrat had more deaths from covid-19 then Republican counties. That begs the question over why that is. They seem to have speculated on a more dense population in democrat-controlled cities but that didn't seem to pan out when they're considered Hong Kong with very dense population but fewer deaths. I don't recall reasoning that they found any definite conclusions. I'm not a doctor but I do have a theory. The reason that there was more death in Democrat areas than than in Republican areas is because of pre-existing conditions. I hear the screams of protest but hear me out. The health of the body depends on not only the body  but the Mind and Spirit as well. If any one or two of these is deficient or compromised the entire body as a whole is affected which in turn compromises the immune system. What we know for certain is that the left has no soul which is connected to the spirit so that part has been compromised. We know that their mind is evil what little there is of it, so if they had one more brain cell it would surely die of loneliness. In conclusion my hypothesis would be that they are mentally and spiritually compromised which in turn has compromised their immune system that has led to more deaths in the dementedcRat cities.
There's also one more equation involved. Leftist housing of elderly, as opposed to free mkt elderly care. I have a pretty good idea Dim states pay counties o house the elderly, not actually care for them, but house them.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 27, 2020, 08:09:52 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 27, 2020, 08:02:07 AM
There's also one more equation involved. Leftist housing of elderly, as opposed to free mkt elderly care. I have a pretty good idea Dim states pay counties o house the elderly, not actually care for them, but house them.

I agree, and I think many if not most are rife with physical and sexual abuse
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 27, 2020, 08:23:37 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 27, 2020, 08:09:52 AM
I agree, and I think many if not most are rife with physical and sexual abuse
Yep, Heaven forbid if you are the last in your lineage. No family to oversee your care, or even out of state, assuming you are resting out your last days safely and pain free.
I have a feeling we're going to see demands for legislation looking into our elderly.
One more reason we need to take the house, because all of the videos we see, more than likely come out of Blue States/Counties.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 27, 2020, 09:26:31 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 27, 2020, 08:09:52 AM
I agree, and I think many if not most are rife with physical and sexual abuse

you have no idea.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 27, 2020, 09:53:25 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 27, 2020, 09:26:31 AM
you have no idea.

Actually I do have some knowledge about the situation. In the eighties my mother worked as a nutritionist/ cook in a nursing home. She only stayed there for a couple of years and finally quit her job and went to work for the Orange County District Attorney's office. Mom was always an advocate for the defenseless regardless of age what position.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 28, 2020, 10:41:58 AM
In fact this is not a covid-19 story but I think it is relevant because we all know that real soon "THE VACCINE"is going to hit the market.
This is somewhat old news that came out a couple of weeks ago and if you haven't seen it in my opinion you should watch it especially before you take this new vaccine.

https://youtu.be/9JG5b8Qt_CY
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 28, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 28, 2020, 10:41:58 AM
In fact this is not a covid-19 story but I think it is relevant because we all know that real soon "THE VACCINE"is going to hit the market.
This is somewhat old news that came out a couple of weeks ago and if you haven't seen it in my opinion you should watch it especially before you take this new vaccine.


I'd like to see the proof of much of his claims, such as flu shots with HIV components embedded in them.
Though I do agree, there is an evil entity of crony/corporate greed behind them, and that govt forcing the masses to be vaccinated is ludicrous and unconstitutional.

I'll never get another vaccination as long as I live with the exception of maybe, tetanus.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on May 28, 2020, 11:45:35 AM
This is exactly the plan.   I wouldn't trust these vaccines...your life depends on it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 28, 2020, 03:07:13 PM
New estimate by CDC reduces COVID-19 death rate to just 0.26% (IFR) from WHO's 3.4% (CFR)

https://in.dental-tribune.com/news/new-estimate-by-the-cdc-brings-down-the-covid-19-death-rate-to-just-0-26-as-against-whos-3-4/

This is almost exactly what the Stanford researchers had projected in April 2020.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

Also, Dr Anthony Fauci had earlier estimated that the fatality rate of the coronavirus was about 2 %

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

The new estimates of fatality rate released by the CDC are as follows for different age groups:

0-49 years old: 0.05%
50-64 years old: 0.2%
65+ years old: 1.3%
Overall ages: 0.4%

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

I'm sure these rates will be revised again in the future it may take up to a year or even two. You can't make an accurate estimate unless you know the number of people infected. I also suspect they will have to reevaluate the number of deaths based on the way they were filling out death certificates. All of the above links are included in the article along with a couple that I didn't bother to bring over.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on May 28, 2020, 03:45:55 PM
What a coinkydink, and I don't believe in coincidence I ran across this episode of a Canadian series that ran from 2003 to 2006 called the Dead Zone. This is a three and a half minute clip from an episode called the plague that came out in 2003

While at a school science fair, Johnny gets a disturbing vision of a group of children getting extremely ill. Johnny persuades Walt to quarantine the building and eventually the children begin to get sick. Johnny realizes that without his help the children will die, including JJ. With the assistance of Rev. Purdy, Johnny must help Walt and the local health inspector, Jim Pratt, try to identify as well as find the source of the mysterious virus before it kills off the entire town.
—Anonymous

https://youtu.be/jY6-HvE5YdU
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 01, 2020, 03:56:54 AM
Remember when just last week this was the biggest news of the year? Now look, social distancing is just for Churches, but rioters are encouraged to amass in the streets.

I love the hypocrisy of the left and I know you all see it too. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on June 01, 2020, 04:29:51 AM
Hopefully, the dem govs will do followups on the rioters to make sure they are  ok.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 01, 2020, 04:43:35 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on June 01, 2020, 04:29:51 AM
Hopefully, the dem govs will do followups on the rioters to make sure they are  ok.

i'm sure none of us could bear it if any of them got sick.  Apparently looting and rioting is covid infection free.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on June 01, 2020, 06:01:32 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on June 01, 2020, 04:43:35 AM
i'm sure none of us could bear it if any of them got sick.  Apparently looting and rioting is covid infection free.

But going to church will kill you
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 01, 2020, 06:48:02 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on June 01, 2020, 06:01:32 AM
But going to church will kill you

these governors...Cuomo in particular said that the masks are for showing solidarity with the 'first line responders'.        I don't know...is this a kinda of America got talent kinda thing?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 01, 2020, 08:02:56 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on June 01, 2020, 06:48:02 AM
these governors...Cuomo in particular said that the masks are for showing solidarity with the 'first line responders'.        I don't know...is this a kinda of America got talent kinda thing?
:lol:
More like stand up comedy.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: pbcharleson on June 01, 2020, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on May 27, 2020, 07:38:14 AM
I found it interesting that based on the data county by county that Democrat had more deaths from covid-19 then Republican counties. That begs the question over why that is. They seem to have speculated on a more dense population in democrat-controlled cities but that didn't seem to pan out when they're considered Hong Kong with very dense population but fewer deaths. I don't recall reasoning that they found any definite conclusions. I'm not a doctor but I do have a theory. The reason that there was more death in Democrat areas than than in Republican areas is because of pre-existing conditions. I hear the screams of protest but hear me out. The health of the body depends on not only the body  but the Mind and Spirit as well. If any one or two of these is deficient or compromised the entire body as a whole is affected which in turn compromises the immune system. What we know for certain is that the left has no soul which is connected to the spirit so that part has been compromised. We know that their mind is evil what little there is of it, so if they had one more brain cell it would surely die of loneliness. In conclusion my hypothesis would be that they are mentally and spiritually compromised which in turn has compromised their immune system that has led to more deaths in the dementedcRat cities.

My suspicion is that the Democrats intentionally spread it among what they consider to be the surplus population of their voters. These are people in cities who will already vote for them, and in states that are considered "safe" for them. This initial wave of the virus has already been reported by health officials to be one that will most strongly spread in the cities but which will impact the rural areas next. Also, if you were to build a capacity to spread the virus, you will first need to ensure that it really can be targeted at geographic regions, ramping up capacity means that you must first effectively deploy it in places that are easy to reach. Just like every other cultural phenomenon from the Beatles to Victoria's Secret, to iPhones, it's first deployed to the big cities and then to the true Americans on the farms, hills, and prairies.
I built my case for why and how it was spread by the Democrats, but when I posted it here, another member of the forum reacted angrily when I did so. If you are interested in seeing the rest of my thoughts, let me know and I will be pleased to share them, but I do not want to stir up any resentment among the community.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 03, 2020, 04:31:26 PM
I am proud to say I have not worn a mask...not once.  I have not worn rubber gloves except to wash my dishes...AND I have not stopped going into town and going to whatever store I want as long as it is open.

I used hand sanitizer for approximately one week...off and on.

I am NOT about to enslave my self to a tyrant blue state governor to satisfy his need for control, by wearing a mask or by social distancing.   NOT now.  NOT ever.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on June 03, 2020, 08:25:44 PM
Europe  is  now the land  of the free  and  home  of the  brave. You will be  happy  to know Switzerland just  dumped  social distancing.

https://www.20min.ch/story/bund-schafft-die-2-meter-abstands-busse-heimlich-ab-763738047957?fbclid=IwAR0STPDnTeFqNqE55ClhC9P8BIrF_ruqcq2_5uPGyK_9A8jFX1nDoAPiiSk

Its  in Swiss so good  luck.

"Swiss quietly removes the 2m social distancing rule.

"A threat of a fine no longer seems justified given the current low number of cases. As part of the current easing measures, the self-responsibility of citizens is coming to the fore."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 03, 2020, 09:00:56 PM
I want life to be like it was before the DemPanic...the ScamDemic.   

I will not accept this as the new normal.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on June 04, 2020, 04:28:32 AM
I agree
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 06, 2020, 08:52:41 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 06, 2020, 09:05:08 AM
When you see how the pharmaceutical companies have taken advantage of all of us it's disgusting. The politicians let them all close up here and move to China. Then the hacks at the CDC and the NIH only promote drugs that are high profit and controlled.
As Trump said from the start, Hydroxychloroquine is cheap, effective and plentiful. Making it an enemy of Fauci, Bill Gates and the rest of the bastards that want to control our lives and make millions from our misery..
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 06, 2020, 12:33:47 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on June 06, 2020, 09:05:08 AM
When you see how the pharmaceutical companies have taken advantage of all of us it's disgusting. The politicians let them all close up here and move to China. Then the hacks at the CDC and the NIH only promote drugs that are high profit and controlled.
As Trump said from the start, Hydroxychloroquine is cheap, effective and plentiful. Making it an enemy of Fauci, Bill Gates and the rest of the bastards that want to control our lives and make millions from our misery..
Exactly! There is no profit in generic drugs.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 06, 2020, 01:06:13 PM
Just noticed on Nancy Pelousi's latest video outrage over Troops protecting the Lincoln memorial or Jefferson memorial not sure now....but she's still got that scarf around her neck...Now I KNOW she had some cosmetic surgery over her vacation during the ScamDemic in Napa Valley.

So what is wrong with the neck that it must be hidden?   Could it be evidence of an eighty year old neck?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 06, 2020, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on June 06, 2020, 01:06:13 PM
Just noticed on Nancy Pelousi's latest video outrage over Troops protecting the Lincoln memorial or Jefferson memorial not sure now....but she's still got that scarf around her neck...Now I KNOW she had some cosmetic surgery over her vacation during the ScamDemic in Napa Valley.

So what is wrong with the neck that it must be hidden?   Could it be evidence of an eighty year old neck?
Her gills were showing.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on June 07, 2020, 05:55:59 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on June 06, 2020, 01:06:13 PM

So what is wrong with the neck that it must be hidden?   Could it be evidence of an eighty year old neck?

So much for breakfast. Envisioning the contrast of Pelosi's "eighty year old neck" with her eight year old brain just killed my appetite
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 09, 2020, 09:00:05 AM
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/20ea9fd15b5aa6c0eae240ef34fceccb25d03a648d0e71657850a2de00a2b896.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 10, 2020, 04:58:59 AM
https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/06/09/who-is-deadly-amid-confusion-on-asymptomatic-spread-too-much-already-as-lives-have-been-destroyed/

Incompetent boobs.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 29, 2020, 09:53:05 AM
I can't bring this info here so i'm giving you the link to see it.    What the 'whistleblower' medical is saying is that in at least 2 hospitals he knows of...there were no serious illness or death until the CDC brought their own tests and then hell breaks loose....he seems to be saying that the tests are tainted....unknowingly...OR NOT.

https://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/155317-Virus-Reality

so you are willing to take a mandatory vaccine?

hahahahahahha
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 29, 2020, 08:09:38 PM
(https://i2.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/if-someone-says-safe-to-go-to-store-but-not-vote-in-person-they-want-to-cheat-in-election-change-my-mind.jpg?w=489&ssl=1)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on June 29, 2020, 08:24:33 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 29, 2020, 08:09:38 PM
(https://i2.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/if-someone-says-safe-to-go-to-store-but-not-vote-in-person-they-want-to-cheat-in-election-change-my-mind.jpg?w=489&ssl=1)

I you would like to know if it is safe to go shopping.  Just go to Costco a 9:00 A.M. and see all the 65+year old's in line for 2 blocks just to go shopping everyday.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 30, 2020, 06:10:33 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 29, 2020, 08:24:33 PM
I you would like to know if it is safe to go shopping.  Just go to Costco a 9:00 A.M. and see all the 65+year old's in line for 2 blocks just to go shopping everyday.   :thumbsup:
I heard Newcilinni enacted another mask rule for all of Ca. Thing is, NorCal is ignoring it, we simply don't give a fuck what the Leftist part of the state does, we're not playing that shit, we have lives to live.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 30, 2020, 06:30:01 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 29, 2020, 08:24:33 PM
I you would like to know if it is safe to go shopping.  Just go to Costco a 9:00 A.M. and see all the 65+year old's in line for 2 blocks just to go shopping everyday.   :thumbsup:
I will not stand in a freakin' line to go shopping.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on June 30, 2020, 12:36:13 PM
this little fauci bastard is at it again.    Not once has he proven to be right.

Anthony Fauci says U.S. coronavirus outbreak is 'going to be very disturbing,' could top 100,000 new cases a day





The U.S. is "not in total control" of the coronavirus pandemic and daily new cases could surpass 100,000 new infections per day if the outbreak continues at its current pace, White House health adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday.

The country is now reporting nearly 40,000 new coronavirus cases every day — almost double from about 22,800 in mid-May — driven largely by outbreaks in a number of states across the South and West. Fauci said about 50% of all new cases are coming from four states: Florida, California, Texas and Arizona.

"I can't make an accurate prediction but it's going to be very disturbing," Fauci told senators in a hearing held by the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. "We are now having 40-plus-thousand new cases a day. I would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around, and so I am very concerned."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/30/fauc...ses-a-day.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on June 30, 2020, 01:00:34 PM
It is becoming very frustrating to me hearing all the hand wringing over in crease in cases. Damn, with all the testing it is obvious we will have more cases. The better measurement is hospitalizations.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on June 30, 2020, 03:18:49 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 30, 2020, 01:00:34 PM
It is becoming very frustrating to me hearing all the hand wringing over in crease in cases. Damn, with all the testing it is obvious we will have more cases. The better measurement is hospitalizations.
:thumbup: The death percent is way down. Guess that doesn't count.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on July 01, 2020, 09:17:48 AM
Czechs celebrate end  of  Corona. No masks, no social distancing

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53244688 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53244688)

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/695/cpsprodpb/18CB/production/_113174360_hi062220693.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 01, 2020, 11:27:35 AM
You Floridians on here... Florida has closed many of her beaches for the July4 weekend.  Are you going anyway?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on July 01, 2020, 07:28:17 PM
Beaches  being  closed  is  idiotic
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on July 01, 2020, 07:31:29 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on July 01, 2020, 07:28:17 PM
Beaches  being  closed  is  idiotic

Well voting for joe is also. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 09, 2020, 06:51:44 AM
Hilliary sobers up for the day and runs her big fat ugly mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=bP--Bb34Njk&feature=emb_title
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2020, 07:25:20 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 09, 2020, 06:51:44 AM
Hilliary sobers up for the day and runs her big fat ugly mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=bP--Bb34Njk&feature=emb_title
It's always about division with this bitch.  :sneaky:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 09, 2020, 07:27:54 AM
Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP--Bb34Njk

totally unlikeable woman.

that's partly why she lost.  UNlikeable, unrelatable, evil.... people sense it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2020, 07:39:12 AM
Then you have people with character by comparison...


(https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/more-you-know-dr-denis-mukwege-fake-covid-death-counts.jpg?w=480&ssl=1)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 09, 2020, 11:52:32 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 09, 2020, 07:27:54 AM
Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP--Bb34Njk

totally unlikeable woman.

that's partly why she lost.  UNlikeable, unrelatable, evil.... people sense it.
You would think the democrat party would want to keep this totally unlikable woman hidden from view.................Unless of course they might be thinking of replacing biden.  :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on July 09, 2020, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 09, 2020, 11:52:32 AM
You would think the democrat party would want to keep this totally unlikable woman hidden from view.................Unless of course they might be thinking of replacing biden.  :popcorn: :popcorn:

The big question is how long it took her makeup artist to fix her like that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 09, 2020, 12:41:42 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 09, 2020, 12:27:37 PM
The big question is how long it took her makeup artist to fix her like that.
its cemented on
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: DrJellyfingers on July 09, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2020, 07:39:12 AM
Then you have people with character by comparison...


(https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/more-you-know-dr-denis-mukwege-fake-covid-death-counts.jpg?w=480&ssl=1)

This is not the reason Mukwege quit. That quote is not his.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2020, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on July 09, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
This is not the reason Mukwege quit. That quote is not his.
So post your proof.
The problem I'm having is finding his actual resignation letter. All I can find is a portion quoted and every new org ran with the same story. If it isn't true, why won't they post the entire letter?
There is probably truth somewhere in between. Someone read it in its entirety and surmised fraud, hence the Meme.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 09, 2020, 03:10:24 PM
There have been other doctors that have said they are getting blowback for not declaring deaths China flu related.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 09, 2020, 03:15:55 PM
We been had.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2020, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on July 09, 2020, 03:10:24 PM
There have been other doctors that have said they are getting blowback for not declaring deaths China flu related.
That's what makes this not so far fetched, but it's blatantly obvious the usual Marxist media outlets were quick to try and discredit this.
Which makes me believe it all the more.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: DrJellyfingers on July 09, 2020, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2020, 02:08:11 PM
So post your proof.
The problem I'm having is finding his actual resignation letter. All I can find is a portion quoted and every new org ran with the same story. If it isn't true, why won't they post the entire letter?
There is probably truth somewhere in between. Someone read it in its entirety and surmised fraud, hence the Meme.

His resignation statement is available. Why need the letter
He has also said the meme isn't true












Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 09, 2020, 04:38:30 PM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on July 09, 2020, 04:16:29 PM
His resignation statement is available. Why need the letter
He has also said the meme isn't true

tell what is true then.   I don't know that he didn't say what is in my post.   I've read other explanations but it comes down to the same thing.  INCOMPETENCE.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 09, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on July 09, 2020, 04:16:29 PM
His resignation statement is available. Why need the letter
He has also said the meme isn't true
If it's available, post it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 10, 2020, 09:02:44 AM
https://twitter.com/csdickey/status/1278884041769594883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1278884041769594883%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html1278884041769594883




I've only been reading Corona news about my State...I didn't know there were other hot spots in the country like this...what the hell did we do that they didn't do or vice versa?  :scared:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: DrJellyfingers on July 10, 2020, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
If it's available, post it.
[/

Here it is though I imagine you could have found it on your own
And even if the truth is 'somewhere in between' why post a meme with a fake quote?

https://fondationpanzirdc.org/le-docteur-mukwege-demissionne-de-la-commission-multi-sectorielle-et-de-la-commission-sante-mises-en-place-dans-le-cadre-de-la-riposte-contre-la-pandemie-de-covid-19-dans-la-province-du-sud-kivu/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2020, 10:13:27 AM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on July 10, 2020, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 09, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
If it's available, post it.
[/

Here it is though I imagine you could have found it on your own
And even if the truth is 'somewhere in between' why post a meme with a fake quote?

https://fondationpanzirdc.org/le-docteur-mukwege-demissionne-de-la-commission-multi-sectorielle-et-de-la-commission-sante-mises-en-place-dans-le-cadre-de-la-riposte-contre-la-pandemie-de-covid-19-dans-la-province-du-sud-kivu/
So you found it in French? Yeah, what was I thinking? :rolleyes:

I still suspect there is more to this and why it lends credibility to the meme.
Have you ever met anyone that took such an important position such as fighting to save lives, and bailed on it because it was too hard?

The guy is either a coward or a fraud. Yes, I believe the Meme. I believe those were probably his first claims, then they threatened him, so he wrote a CYA"Short" resignation letter. Yes, that letter is a copout.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 10, 2020, 10:30:58 AM
How are these topics getting stretched out to kingdom come. 

WHOEVER IS DOIGN THAT...STOP!!   It makes it unreadable
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 10, 2020, 10:33:21 AM
I knew this was coming...been seeing little snips of it here or there.  'YOU CAN"T SHOP HERE IF YOU
DON"T WEARS THAT MASK OF OBEDIENCE!!  YOU GRAMMA HATIN" POS!!

WHitmer just this am...said..no mask, no service/purchase.

Precursor..Mark of the Beast..and look how many Christians are doing it.

fools
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: DrJellyfingers on July 10, 2020, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 10, 2020, 10:13:27 AM
So you found it in French? Yeah, what was I thinking? :rolleyes:

I still suspect there is more to this and why it lends credibility to the meme.
Have you ever met anyone that took such an important position such as fighting to save lives, and bailed on it because it was too hard?

The guy is either a coward or a fraud. Yes, I believe the Meme. I believe those were probably his first claims, then they threatened him, so he wrote a CYA"Short" resignation letter. Yes, that letter is a copout.

I changed the language to English before i posted but if it opened in French you can still change it in the drop down.
Either way, your post is pretty ridiculous but ill drop it.



Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2020, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on July 10, 2020, 11:16:20 AM
I changed the language to English before i posted but if it opened in French you can still change it in the drop down.
Either way, your post is pretty ridiculous but ill drop it.
I did translate it, and still found his reasoning to be ridiculous, which for me, leads credence to the original Meme being released.
You have to question as to why it was made, if it didn't have some truth behind it and the fact that leftist media went full force in an attempt to debunk it.

Think about that, why is the leftist media so Hell bent on proving it was a lie, they never do it for other Memes but this one was important to them, why is that?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 11, 2020, 08:33:15 PM
MSNBC/nbc lied about contributor's bout of covid. 
He always tested negative and yet they continued to document his treatment and recovery.
Tested negative for antibodies. 

now the guy admits he didn't have covid.

This is like those hoax hate crimes.  The left is fruity.

https://freebeacon.com/media/nbc-contributor-reveals-he-never-had-coronavirus-after-network-documented-his-recovery/

they had this pretender on 10 times.
https://www.infowars.com/fear-mongering-msnbc-nbc-contributor-lied-about-having-covid/


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 13, 2020, 05:43:01 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Stupid Marxist!


Michigan Sheriffs Refuse to Enforce Gretchen Whitmer Mask Mandate
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer issued an executive order on Friday stating businesses "must" deny service to patrons not wearing a mask, and now a number of sheriffs are refusing to enforce the edict.

Van Buren County Sheriff Dan Abbott says his department won't be enforcing Gov. Whitmer's new mask mandate.

The executive order, which states business "must" deny service to patrons who aren't wearing a mask, comes with a $500 misdemeanor.

Abbott told Fox 17 he believes the order is "very bland," and that it would be "very hard to enforce."

He said his department will respond if a business complains, but that the individual will need to be prosecuted by the Michigan State Police or the Attorney General's Office.https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/13/michigan-sheriffs-refuse-to-enforce-gretchen-whitmer-mask-mandate/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 13, 2020, 05:57:46 PM
I don't think she is counting on the law to enforce it.    His pronouncement is simply for face saving for himself. Perhaps he has political ambitions.  NOT blaming him for that...just saying what i think.    She is counting on businesses to enforce it.  THEY are doing her dirty work.  No prosecution is necessary.  Just say, 'i'm not selling to you unless you put on that mask'.    Government needs only to threaten the business owner with loss of business license and it will be enforced.

I Would personally try to get a boycott going on of every business that requires a mask for buying/selling privileges.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 13, 2020, 06:27:31 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 13, 2020, 05:57:46 PM
I don't think she is counting on the law to enforce it.    His pronouncement is simply for face saving for himself. Perhaps he has political ambitions.  NOT blaming him for that...just saying what i think.    She is counting on businesses to enforce it.  THEY are doing her dirty work.  No prosecution is necessary.  Just say, 'i'm not selling to you unless you put on that mask'.    Government needs only to threaten the business owner with loss of business license and it will be enforced.

I Would personally try to get a boycott going on of every business that requires a mask for buying/selling privileges.
Nah, remember the barber that beat her ass in court? Well, all of Michiganders do.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 13, 2020, 07:18:11 PM
Here is what gets me about all these mask morons....especially Whitmer and her ilk.  Back when we had every third world illegal sneaking across our borders and being smuggled in by criminal gangs to hide out in the lefts sanctuary citires, none of them gave a shit about all the unvaccinated 3rd worlders or what sort of communicable diseases they were bringing into the country.  Things like TB, Hep A, B,C  AIDES/HIV.  Nobody gave a shit when little Juanito went to school with their kids ad they came home coughing and hacking all the time.  And if you dared to raise a objection you were a racist and should be censored and shame on you for being anti "immigrant" and all the other guilt trips the left loves to lay on those who oppose their stupidity.

This WU FLU "Pandemic" is a product of their anti National security Anti Immigration enforcement anti law and order hypocracy and stupidity and it is time the pundits start calling them out for it. THEY OWN THIS.

Now you want us to wear a mask?  F U !!!!!!!   I'll wear a mask when you get rid of your sanctuary city and tougher border security and build the wall to KEEP THE PEOPLE OUT THAT BROUGHT THIS DISEASE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 13, 2020, 07:24:02 PM
Another thing about wearing a mask. In December if you went into a store wearing a mask they would ask you to remove it. Now you have to wear a mask to go into the store.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 04:48:17 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 13, 2020, 07:18:11 PM
Here is what gets me about all these mask morons....especially Whitmer and her ilk.  Back when we had every third world illegal sneaking across our borders and being smuggled in by criminal gangs to hide out in the lefts sanctuary citires, none of them gave a shit about all the unvaccinated 3rd worlders or what sort of communicable diseases they were bringing into the country.  Things like TB, Hep A, B,C  AIDES/HIV.  Nobody gave a shit when little Juanito went to school with their kids ad they came home coughing and hacking all the time.  And if you dared to raise a objection you were a racist and should be censored and shame on you for being anti "immigrant" and all the other guilt trips the left loves to lay on those who oppose their stupidity.

This WU FLU "Pandemic" is a product of their anti National security Anti Immigration enforcement anti law and order hypocracy and stupidity and it is time the pundits start calling them out for it. THEY OWN THIS.

Now you want us to wear a mask?  F U !!!!!!!   I'll wear a mask when you get rid of your sanctuary city and tougher border security and build the wall to KEEP THE PEOPLE OUT THAT BROUGHT THIS DISEASE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
There it is, Hypocrisy of the left. It was never about keeping people safe. Look at all the elderly they killed, no, it's always been about killing the country.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on July 14, 2020, 05:54:02 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 10, 2020, 10:33:21 AM
I knew this was coming...been seeing little snips of it here or there.  'YOU CAN"T SHOP HERE IF YOU
DON"T WEARS THAT MASK OF OBEDIENCE!!  YOU GRAMMA HATIN" POS!!

WHitmer just this am...said..no mask, no service/purchase.

Precursor..Mark of the Beast..and look how many Christians are doing it.

fools

Now we're getting a sense of how God reacts to 'Luke warm" Christianity - ' I will spew them out of my mouth.."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 14, 2020, 06:37:48 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2020, 04:48:17 AM
There it is, Hypocrisy of the left. It was never about keeping people safe. Look at all the elderly they killed, no, it's always been about killing the country.

THAT is it.   They don't care if the country is destroyed as long as they have their position and power.

I believe they think that will make them safe.   IF they destroy this country and i am alive..It will be my goal in life to find them.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 14, 2020, 06:37:48 AM
THAT is it.   They don't care if the country is destroyed as long as they have their position and power.

I believe they think that will make them safe.   IF they destroy this country and i am alive..It will be my goal in life to find them.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

If I'm still alive, I'll be your financial backer. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
FYI:
As of July 5th in the United States

        Number of death.           134,884

     Number of cases.           3,296,599

      That figures a mortality rate at.   0.0409

So why the masks why the lockdown why the panic? What the hell is wrong with people?

I'm sure everyone that's been following this knows the answer to those questions....... and it damn sure isn't the death rate.

my mistake those death rate and cases were updated July 13th 2020


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/us-cases-deaths.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 11:40:15 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
FYI:
As of July 5th in the United States

        Number of death.           134,884

     Number of cases.           3,296,599

      That figures a mortality rate at.   0.0409

So why the masks why the lockdown why the panic? What the hell is wrong with people? If they all wear vests to go outside we should all wear masks

I'm sure everyone that's been following this knows the answer to those questions....... and it damn sure isn't the death rate.

my mistake those death rate and cases were updated July 13th 2020


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/us-cases-deaths.html

4% mortality rate is kinda high.  Even police officers death rate is like 0.01%. If they all wear vests to go outside we should all wear masks.
Title: A Lesson or Retailers
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 11:41:11 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec45GjIWoAACBOy?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Florida hospital admits its COVID positivity rate is 10x lower than first report
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 12:18:06 PM
Florida hospital admits its COVID positivity rate is 10x lower than first reported


A Florida hospital handling COVID-19 tests confirmed to media this week that its near-100% positivity rate was overstated by a factor of 10, raising already-heightened concerns that numerous labs are over reporting the number of confirmed infections.

The Florida Division of Emergency Management posts a daily coronavirus update on its website, which features a list of the positivity rates of every COVID testing facility in the state. Hundreds of labs and hospitals throughout Florida are regularly testing state residents for the coronavirus.

In recent days, numerous facilities have begun reporting 100% positivity rates, figures significantly higher than the statewide average of around 15%. Many of those labs claim to have tested only one patient, though others with 100% rates report testing dozens and sometimes hundreds of patients.

The inflated numbers come as Florida has been recording record numbers of COVID-19 infections, though an analysis of state data by Just the News last week revealed that the state's recent record-breaking counts of infections may have been overestimated by as much as 30%.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/florida-lab-admits-its-covid-positivity-rate-was-inflated-90
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 14, 2020, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 11:40:15 AM
4% mortality rate is kinda high.  Even police officers death rate is like 0.01%. If they all wear vests to go outside we should all wear masks.
You really are an idiot Joe the lying Troll. Do you know why cops wear vests? Obviously it hasn't registered in that tiny brain of yours. Masks won't stop you from getting anything. A mask won't stop a knife or a bullet will it?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 14, 2020, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2020, 09:03:21 AM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

If I'm still alive, I'll be your financial backer. :thumbup:

I would welcome that.    They gotta come out sometime is my thinking.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 14, 2020, 12:30:34 PM
I knew this information last week.  My son lives in Florida.    He watches it all the time.  He is Anti-social distancing and anti mask compliance.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 11:40:15 AM
4% mortality rate is kinda high.  Even police officers death rate is like 0.01%. If they all wear vests to go outside we should all wear masks.
Reading Comprehension? That was 0.0409, not 4%.
So maybe we should all be wearing Kevlar and not masks.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 12:44:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2020, 12:40:42 PM
Reading Comprehension? That was 0.0409, not 4%.
So maybe we should all be wearing Kevlar and not masks.

https://www.google.com/search?q=what%27s+4%25+of+3%2C296%2C599&oq=what%27s+4%25+of+3%2C296%2C599&aqs=chrome..69i57j6.16283j0j7&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Math.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 14, 2020, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 12:44:20 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=what%27s+4%25+of+3%2C296%2C599&oq=what%27s+4%25+of+3%2C296%2C599&aqs=chrome..69i57j6.16283j0j7&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Math.
And you're still a fucking idiot Joe the lying Troll.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 12:44:20 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=what%27s+4%25+of+3%2C296%2C599&oq=what%27s+4%25+of+3%2C296%2C599&aqs=chrome..69i57j6.16283j0j7&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Math.
Yeah, math.

What's 0.0409% of 3,296,599 = 1348.308991

Just like the article stated. Where in the Hell did you get 4%?

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2020, 12:54:13 PM
Yeah, math.

What's 0.0409% of 3,296,599 = 1348.308991

Just like the article stated. Where in the Hell did you get 4%?

Here...maybe this small example will help you

https://youtu.be/3ulgek4u0i8
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 14, 2020, 01:09:16 PM
I want to show you something.    See this product.  35.00 for a box of 50.   

https://www.nurive.com/collections/all-products/products/face-mask

Know what i paid for this a couple years ago when i thought it would be a good idea to buy 6 boxes?    11.00 a box of 50. IF that.    might even have been as low as 9 dollars a box.  I also bought 6 boxes of plastic gloves.    I just got to thinking it would be a good idea.  I use them mostly for painting and woodworking and yard work with poisons.      I will not use them for this Scamdemic.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 01:06:55 PM
Here...maybe this small example will help you

https://youtu.be/3ulgek4u0i8
Are you high? 4% of the number of cases would be 131863.96, that is not 3,296,599.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 01:25:33 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2020, 01:13:47 PM
Are you high? 4% of the number of cases would be 131863.96, that is not 3,296,599.

From dirtbomb:
Number of death.           134,884

     Number of cases.           3,296,599

      That figures a mortality rate at.   0.0409


134k DEATHS

in 3.2M CASES

Is a 4% death rate


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 14, 2020, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 12:44:20 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=what%27s+4%25+of+3%2C296%2C599&oq=what%27s+4%25+of+3%2C296%2C599&aqs=chrome..69i57j6.16283j0j7&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Math.
And you're still a fucking idiot Joe the lying Troll.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 14, 2020, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 11:40:15 AM
4% mortality rate is kinda high.  Even police officers death rate is like 0.01%. If they all wear vests to go outside we should all wear masks.
If 4% is kinda high, how can you explain the even higher death rate for the six largest liberal run hellholes? New York, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Illinois, Pennsylvanian, California, and New Jersey,  have 1,316,334 cases as of today and 83,664 deaths. Over 6 percent!! That means the other 51 states have only 2.5%. Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

There has got to be a way to blame Trump for 5 of those states sending infected people to the nursing homes? Right?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 14, 2020, 01:58:27 PM
If 4% is kinda high, how can you explain the even higher death rate for the six largest liberal run hellholes? New York, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Illinois, Pennsylvanian, California, and New Jersey,  have 1,316,334 cases as of today and 83,664 deaths. Over 6 percent!! That means the other 51 states have only 2.5%. Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

There has got to be a way to blame Trump for 5 of those states sending infected people to the nursing homes? Right?

I agree. It's high. Even 2.5% is high.

Like I said...cops wear vests every time they go out with a .01% death rate.

We should wear masks is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 14, 2020, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 02:08:11 PM
I agree. It's high. Even 2.5% is high.

Like I said...cops wear vests every time they go out with a .01% death rate.

We should wear masks is all I'm saying.
Can you take a stab at the answer, Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?
If you have a better answer, please, lets hear it.


Oh, on this "Like I said...cops wear vests every time they go out with a .01% death rate."  Are you saying the survival rate from being shot is 99.99% Or what exactly are you saying.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 14, 2020, 02:14:15 PM
Can you take a stab at the answer, Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?
If you have a better answer, please, lets hear it.


Oh, on this "Like I said...cops wear vests every time they go out with a .01% death rate."  Are you saying the survival rate from being shot is 99.99% Or what exactly are you saying.

I'm saying that cops have a .01% chance of dying on duty, yet apparently Covid has a 4% death rate if you catch it.

In my county, with a Republican mayor, and in a state with a Republican governor, we've got about a 20-20% chance of catching it.

So, given those circumstances, I'm advocating for mask wearing.

Japan is super densely populated but doing great partly because everyone wears masks. If we want to get back to normal we gotta get this thing under control.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 14, 2020, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 02:25:27 PM
I'm saying that cops have a .01% chance of dying on duty, yet apparently Covid has a 4% death rate if you catch it.

In my county, with a Republican mayor, and in a state with a Republican governor, we've got about a 20-20% chance of catching it.

So, given those circumstances, I'm advocating for mask wearing.

Japan is super densely populated but doing great partly because everyone wears masks. If we want to get back to normal we gotta get this thing under control.
Not comparing apples to apples. What is the death rate for an American to die from the virus? If you are going to base your % for police to those on duty, place your % for covid deaths on all Americans. So lets see, 331,080,639 citizens  134,884 deaths and we have .000407 or .04% 

And we are shutting down the economy for .04%
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 14, 2020, 02:34:29 PM
Not comparing apples to apples. What is the death rate for an American to die from the virus? If you are going to base your % for police to those on duty, place your % for covid deaths on all Americans. So lets see, 331,080,639 citizens  134,884 deaths and we have .000407 or .04% 

And we are shutting down the economy for .04%

Explain that again...how is it apples to apples?

Out of all ppl that are cops, .01% die in duty.

Out of all people that catch Covid, 4% die.

So, what we want to do is avoid people catching Covid.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 14, 2020, 02:46:03 PM
This isn't about health.  If Joe were honest he'd tell you that.  The left didn't get their way in 2016.  Their schemes, plans, plots, coups didn't get them their way.  This is a power trip.  They want their way.   They want to make the rest of america who voted for The President to be put out, to be inconvenienced.   

Do you think Joe would pretend to be concerned about Trump supporter covid deaths.  No...Joe wouldn't.  Joe would like to see that.  This mask thing....it's a preview of what libs will do to Non libs if the libs get back in power.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 14, 2020, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 02:43:50 PM
Explain that again...how is it apples to apples?

Out of all ppl that are cops, .01% die in duty.

Out of all people that catch Covid, 4% die.

So, what we want to do is avoid people catching Covid.
Let me try again, you are using all police, not just the ones who get shot. SO, use all Americans not just the ones who caught the virus. Surly you get it now. If you only want to use Americans who get the virus, then only use police who get shot. Understand how that works?


Can you answer?
Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on July 14, 2020, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 14, 2020, 03:34:34 PM
Let me try again, you are using all police, not just the ones who get shot. SO, use all Americans not just the ones who caught the virus. Surly you get it now. If you only want to use Americans who get the virus, then only use police who get shot. Understand how that works?


Can you answer?
Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?

I'm thinking it would be a Herculean feast making someone who willing to pedal such nonsense as a 4% death rate from COVID-19 grasp any mathematical concept that's grounded in solid data.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 14, 2020, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: WMK on July 14, 2020, 03:43:53 PM
I'm thinking it would be a Herculean feast making someone who willing to pedal such nonsense as a 4% death rate from COVID-19 grasp any mathematical concept that's grounded in solid data.
Joe likes to play stupid when he is backed into a corner, trouble with that, most of us know he is playing, but the rest don't. One of these days he will learn, playing stupid does not win debates.


Nobody tell biden that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 14, 2020, 03:34:34 PM
Let me try again, you are using all police, not just the ones who get shot. SO, use all Americans not just the ones who caught the virus. Surly you get it now. If you only want to use Americans who get the virus, then only use police who get shot. Understand how that works?


Can you answer?
Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?

Think about it this way...

All police are Americans
All of our Covid cases are Americans

Of all those Americans who are Police officers, .01% die.

Of all those Americans who catch Covid, 4% die.

So, as they don't go to work without a vest. I say we shouldn't go out without a mask.


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 14, 2020, 03:55:31 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 03:49:31 PM
Think about it this way...

All police are Americans
All of our Covid cases are Americans

Of all those Americans who are Police officers, .01% die.

Of all those Americans who catch Covid, 4% die.

So, as they don't go to work without a vest. I say we shouldn't go out without a mask.
When did a virus start shooting and stabbing people Joe the lying Troll. Masks don't stop anything. I am an Amercan citizen and I am free to make my own decisions. You're and idiotJoe the Troll. You're analogy is BS.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 14, 2020, 04:09:35 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 03:49:31 PM
Think about it this way...

All police are Americans
All of our Covid cases are Americans

Of all those Americans who are Police officers, .01% die.

Of all those Americans who catch Covid, 4% die.

So, as they don't go to work without a vest. I say we shouldn't go out without a mask.
Joe, time to stop playing stupid. You no longer contribute to the forum when you do.


So two questions, 1. how many police who get shot survive?


And,  Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?

Third question but it don't count because I will give you the answer, What percent of Americans have died from the virus?
331,080,639 citizens  134,884 deaths and we have .000407 or .04%

And we are shutting down the economy for .04%
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 04:14:02 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 11:40:15 AM
4% mortality rate is kinda high.  Even police officers death rate is like 0.01%. If they all wear vests to go outside we should all wear masks.

Who is that Corona masked moron? Oh, it's Joe suckpack.

It's not a 4% death rate you idiot, it's 0.04 percent
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 14, 2020, 04:09:35 PM
Joe, time to stop playing stupid. You no longer contribute to the forum when you do.


So two questions, 1. how many police who get shot survive?


And,  Is it the fact that liberals are in charge and have been for quite some time in those states, or is it because liberals do not know how to govern?

Third question but it don't count because I will give you the answer, What percent of Americans have died from the virus?
331,080,639 citizens  134,884 deaths and we have .000407 or .04%

And we are shutting down the economy for .04%

How many police officers get shot at, period?

Is that enough to justify 100% of them wearing vests?

My point remains...there's a RISK to being an officer, and they mitigate it by wearing vests.

There's a RISK to catching Covid, and we mitigate it by wearing masks.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 04:17:40 PM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 04:14:02 PM
Who is that Corona masked moron? Oh, it's Joe suckpack.

It's not a 4% death rate you idiot, it's 0.04 percent

How do you calculate death rate?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 14, 2020, 04:33:12 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 04:17:40 PM
How do you calculate death rate?
331,080,639 citizens  134,884 deaths and we have .000407 or .04%
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 14, 2020, 04:33:12 PM
331,080,639 citizens  134,884 deaths and we have .000407 or .04%

That math is correct. Why do we divide it be the entire US population, though ? :confused:

Why not by the amount of people that actually caught it?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 14, 2020, 04:51:28 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
How many police officers get shot at, period?

Is that enough to justify 100% of them wearing vests?

My point remains...there's a RISK to being an officer, and they mitigate it by wearing vests.

There's a RISK to catching Covid, and we mitigate it by wearing masks.
Ok, i can get that. Lets see, 3,355,457 cases of the virus,  331,080,639 (I'm sure that number has gone up since we got on this subject) Americans, that means .01013 or 1.015% of Americans have caught the virus.
Now I am not sure 1% is a solid reason for shutting down the economy or to violate someones constitutional rights by forcing them on what they have to wear. Since crime is rising, would you force everyone to carry a gun?
Here is another question for you to to either play stupid with or just totally ignore, if you are ready to force American to wear something they do not want to, are you willing to stop the protests in order to flatten the curve?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 04:54:15 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 04:17:40 PM
How do you calculate death rate?

You're such an idiot I don't know why I'm wasting my time. If you want to figure the death rate it's the same way you figure any percentage of anything

Would you agree that $1 is 10% of $10 would you agree to that Joe suck pack?
Here is the math to come to that conclusion

          1
        -----
         10

That means you would divide 1 by 10 which would give you the answer. So take your calculator and punch in 1 divided by 10 and you will get a result of 0.1.
Point one means 1/10 or 10%.
To check your answer you simply reverse the process enter into your calculator .1 × 10 and you will get a result of 1 thereby proving that the math is correct, $1 is 10% of $10. Math does not lie mathematics is constant throughout the Universe. So now that you know how the math works you take the number of deaths which in this case was

           134,884
        ----------------   and you divide it by the number of cases
       3,296,599

That will give you the answer 0.0409166043.
Which for the sake of argument we call  .04 percent.

To make sure the math is correct you do it the same way you did with the $1 $10 math problem.
.
     .04 × 3,296,559 =?
Try it on your own calculator and never ask me another math question in fact don't ever ask me anything until you start living in reality.


I would also like to point out that as we do more testing we will find many new cases of covid-19. If the death rate keeps dropping and the number of infected keeps Rising that will lower the  .04% death rate even further.
By the way Joe I would have thought that you had at least a high school education. How is it that you graduated high school and can't do basic math? What the hell's going on in this country?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 05:17:22 PM
I just received this in an email it should be a very interesting program.

TONIGHT ON COAST TO COAST RADIO:




Vaccine Controversies:

Author of one of the most controversial clinical papers in modern medical history, Dr. Andrew Wakefield linked autism to vaccines, and then experienced a tremendous fallout to his career. In the first half of Monday's show, he discussed his new film, 1986: The Act, which examines the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that spared vaccine manufacturers from product liability and what that means for a potential COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC and pharmaceutical companies covered up findings that mercury-containing vaccines had an association with neurological damage in children, he cited. Children were getting more and more mercury-containing vaccines, he continued. Finally, it was made clear they were getting way in excess of the EPA's guidelines for even adult levels, so the mercury was slowly phased out. Because the pharmaceutical companies had no liability for vaccine damages, they became so wealthy from sales, "they could buy the politicians...buy the media, and ...buy the doctors," Wakefield remarked.

THANKS GHOST, @roswell_ghost

I hope it was okay to post this on the main page.
I did it for the children!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 04:54:15 PM
You're such an idiot I don't know why I'm wasting my time. If you want to figure the death rate it's the same way you figure any percentage of anything

Would you agree that $1 is 10% of $10 would you agree to that Joe suck pack?
Here is the math to come to that conclusion

          1
        -----
         10

That means you would divide 1 by 10 which would give you the answer. So take your calculator and punch in 1 divided by 10 and you will get a result of 0.1.
Point one means 1/10 or 10%.
To check your answer you simply reverse the process enter into your calculator .1 × 10 and you will get a result of 1 thereby proving that the math is correct, $1 is 10% of $10. Math does not lie mathematics is constant throughout the Universe. So now that you know how the math works you take the number of deaths which in this case was

           134,884
        ----------------   and you divide it by the number of cases
       3,296,599

That will give you the answer 0.0409166043.
Which for the sake of argument we call  .04 percent.

To make sure the math is correct you do it the same way you did with the $1 $10 math problem.
.
     .04 × 3,296,559 =?
Try it on your own calculator and never ask me another math question in fact don't ever ask me anything until you start living in reality.


I would also like to point out that as we do more testing we will find many new cases of covid-19. If the death rate keeps dropping and the number of infected keeps Rising that will lower the  .04% death rate even further.
By the way Joe I would have thought that you had at least a high school education. How is it that you graduated high school and can't do basic math? What the hell's going on in this country?

4%=.04 and .1 = 10% and .01 = 1%  BTW

But don't worry it's in the early stages
BWAHAHAHA LAUGHTER
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on July 14, 2020, 06:31:00 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 03:49:31 PM

So, as they don't go to work without a vest. I say we shouldn't go out without a mask.

And I pay homage to the old phrase, "live and let live."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 05:17:22 PM
I just received this in an email it should be a very interesting program.

TONIGHT ON COAST TO COAST RADIO:




Vaccine Controversies:

Author of one of the most controversial clinical papers in modern medical history, Dr. Andrew Wakefield linked autism to vaccines, and then experienced a tremendous fallout to his career. In the first half of Monday's show, he discussed his new film, 1986: The Act, which examines the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that spared vaccine manufacturers from product liability and what that means for a potential COVID-19 vaccine. The CDC and pharmaceutical companies covered up findings that mercury-containing vaccines had an association with neurological damage in children, he cited. Children were getting more and more mercury-containing vaccines, he continued. Finally, it was made clear they were getting way in excess of the EPA's guidelines for even adult levels, so the mercury was slowly phased out. Because the pharmaceutical companies had no liability for vaccine damages, they became so wealthy from sales, "they could buy the politicians...buy the media, and ...buy the doctors," Wakefield remarked.

THANKS GHOST, @roswell_ghost

I hope it was okay to post this on the main page.
I did it for the children!!!

Sorry everyone but I got some bad information according to the coast to coast website this is not going to be Tonight Show.

This is Tonight Show, and I'm sorry I got it too late to remove this post


First Half: Scholar of occult ideas Mitch Horowitz will discuss what it takes to revolutionize your life. He'll outline 13 habits that can bring you powers and victories as well as metaphysical methods to increase attractiveness, charisma, and self-worth during these tumultuous times.

Second Half: Trainer and speaker, Anne Jirsch, is a pioneer of Future Life Progression (FLP). She'll share how hypnosis and visualization can be used to discover one's best options regarding life choices as well as learn what the future holds for both individuals and the world at large.

Hopefully the right people will read this and remove both posts
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 14, 2020, 04:51:28 PM
Ok, i can get that. Lets see, 3,355,457 cases of the virus,  331,080,639 (I'm sure that number has gone up since we got on this subject) Americans, that means .01013 or 1.015% of Americans have caught the virus.
Now I am not sure 1% is a solid reason for shutting down the economy or to violate someones constitutional rights by forcing them on what they have to wear. Since crime is rising, would you force everyone to carry a gun?
Here is another question for you to to either play stupid with or just totally ignore, if you are ready to force American to wear something they do not want to, are you willing to stop the protests in order to flatten the curve?

Okay. So...



138,000 deaths

divided by

331,080,639 Americans

x 100,000

=

41.6 deaths per 100K people





Now let's compare it to the occupational hazard of being a Police officer


89 (https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty) deaths

divided by

800,0000 (https://nleomf.org/facts-figures/law-enforcement-facts) officers

x 100,000

=

11.1 deaths per 100K officers



That's the official formula (https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/view/sharedstatic/CauseSpecificDeathRate.pdf) for cause specific death rates


So, logically, if Police officers feel the need to carry a gun and wear a vest every time they go out to mitigate their risk of dying on duty. Why can't we wear a mask in situations that are recommended to mitigate the risk of dying from or spreading Covid?




Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 06:41:16 PM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 04:54:15 PM
You're such an idiot I don't know why I'm wasting my time. If you want to figure the death rate it's the same way you figure any percentage of anything

Would you agree that $1 is 10% of $10 would you agree to that Joe suck pack?
Here is the math to come to that conclusion

          1
        -----
         10

That means you would divide 1 by 10 which would give you the answer. So take your calculator and punch in 1 divided by 10 and you will get a result of 0.1.
Point one means 1/10 or 10%.
To check your answer you simply reverse the process enter into your calculator .1 × 10 and you will get a result of 1 thereby proving that the math is correct, $1 is 10% of $10. Math does not lie mathematics is constant throughout the Universe. So now that you know how the math works you take the number of deaths which in this case was

           134,884
        ----------------   and you divide it by the number of cases
       3,296,599

That will give you the answer 0.0409166043.
Which for the sake of argument we call  .04 percent.

To make sure the math is correct you do it the same way you did with the $1 $10 math problem.
.
     .04 × 3,296,559 =?
Try it on your own calculator and never ask me another math question in fact don't ever ask me anything until you start living in reality.


I would also like to point out that as we do more testing we will find many new cases of covid-19. If the death rate keeps dropping and the number of infected keeps Rising that will lower the  .04% death rate even further.
By the way Joe I would have thought that you had at least a high school education. How is it that you graduated high school and can't do basic math? What the hell's going on in this country?

You appear to be saying it's 4%. Which is what I was saying as well...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 06:43:07 PM
Embarrassingly yes I got it wrong
The math was right but I failed to convert it to percentage
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 06:43:09 PM
Quote from: WMK on July 14, 2020, 06:31:00 PM
And I pay homage to the old phrase, "live and let live."

I agree.

This isn't even a permanent cultural change like the ban on smoking in many places because it effects those around you.

It's a temporary request to not infect others or get infected yourself when in a crowded situation.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 06:44:01 PM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 14, 2020, 06:43:07 PM
Embarrassingly yes I got it wrong

same here. I guess we're human after all...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 07:00:30 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 06:41:05 PM
Okay. So...



138,000 deaths

divided by

331,080,639 Americans

x 100,000

=

41.6 deaths per 100K people





Now let's compare it to the occupational hazard of being a Police officer


89 (https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty) deaths

divided by

800,0000 (https://nleomf.org/facts-figures/law-enforcement-facts) officers

x 100,000

=

11.1 deaths per 100K officers



That's the official formula (https://www-doh.state.nj.us/doh-shad/view/sharedstatic/CauseSpecificDeathRate.pdf) for cause specific death rates


So, logically, if Police officers feel the need to carry a gun and wear a vest every time they go out to mitigate their risk of dying on duty. Why can't we wear a mask in situations that are recommended to mitigate the risk of dying from or spreading Covid?
Now, if you take out the 47% of inflicted death, meaning murder, via Dim nursing homes, what is the percentage?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2020, 07:00:30 PM
Now, if you take out the 47% of inflicted death, meaning murder, via Dim nursing homes, what is the percentage?

Even in your crazy hypothetical it'd still be double the death rate of Police officers.

So, if Police officers feel the need to carry a gun and wear a vest every time they go out to mitigate their risk of dying on duty, we should wear a mask in situations that are recommended to mitigate the risk of dying from or spreading Covid.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2020, 07:22:58 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 07:11:29 PM
Even in your crazy hypothetical it'd still be double the death rate of Police officers.

So, if Police officers feel the need to carry a gun and wear a vest every time they go out to mitigate their risk of dying on duty, we should wear a mask in situations that are recommended to mitigate the risk of dying from or spreading Covid.
Even with your ridiculous police analogy, it comes nowhere near car accidents. Maybe we should outlaw driving?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 14, 2020, 08:17:04 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 07:11:29 PM
Even in your crazy hypothetical it'd still be double the death rate of Police officers.

So, if Police officers feel the need to carry a gun and wear a vest every time they go out to mitigate their risk of dying on duty, we should wear a mask in situations that are recommended to mitigate the risk of dying from or spreading Covid.
Noone can be as stupid as you are Joe the lying Troll. You have no clue what a cop's job is do you?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 15, 2020, 04:15:56 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 04:35:56 PM
That math is correct. Why do we divide it be the entire US population, though ? :confused:

Why not by the amount of people that actually caught it?
To understand what your chances are of dying from the virus you first must understand what your chances are of having the virus. 1% of the population has caught the virus, 4% of them have died, so, if you are part of the population, there is a .04% chance that you have died of the virus. As healthy people catch the virus, instead of patients in nursing homes, that death rate will go down even further. So, here is another question for you to ignore, there were five governors who insisted nursing homes take in infected patients, which lead to 40% of the deaths so far, yes you read that right, 40%. Why did they do it?
And joe, if you are the really good liberal you think you are, you would not be ignoring these questions but would have the party line ready to education us with. So, give it a try. Why did those governors send infected people into nursing homes?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 15, 2020, 07:03:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 14, 2020, 07:22:58 PM
Even with your ridiculous police analogy, it comes nowhere near car accidents. Maybe we should outlaw driving?

But we mitigate the risk by mandating seat belts, and speed limits, etc.

We're just doing what we can to mitigate risk.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2020, 07:11:13 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 15, 2020, 07:03:07 AM
But we mitigate the risk by mandating seat belts, and speed limits, etc.

We're just doing what we can to mitigate risk.
As does the human body via the immune system.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 15, 2020, 07:22:52 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 15, 2020, 07:03:07 AM
But we mitigate the risk by mandating seat belts, and speed limits, etc.

We're just doing what we can to mitigate risk.

Mitigate the risk? You mean like New York Governor Cuomo did?
What do we amount to as a country if we not only let that happen, but let them get away with it?

Thousands of men and women who worked all their lives and paid their taxes, who raised families, who wanted to watch their grandchildren grow up, died in large enough numbers that their bodies piled up in sheds, and the same nation that ground to a halt for Michael Brown and Freddie Gray shrugs. Where is even a fraction of the outrage that has been lavished on Ahmaud Aubrey for those thousands of wrinkled men and women, black and white, gasping out their last breaths in nursing home beds?

Cuomo, Whitmer, Murphy, and Newsom did not believe that they were worth saving. If we do not speak the truth, if we do not fight for justice for them, then are we as a nation really worth saving?
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/07/gov-grandma-killer-cuomo-uses-state-site-sell-daniel-greenfield/

Be sure to click the link to be official state website where Governor Cuomo if selling his covid-19 poster

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 15, 2020, 11:29:14 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 15, 2020, 07:03:07 AM
But we mitigate the risk by mandating seat belts, and speed limits, etc.

We're just doing what we can to mitigate risk.

Governor Abbott of Texas did all he could do to mitigate the misinformation about this virus. If Texas was going to claim a death by covid it had to be substantiated. They refused to let anyone and everyone who happened to die in the past 6 months be attributed to covid-19 on their death certificate. So their numbers happened to be a little bit different then the rest of the states that weren't so particular in what they listed as death by covid for economic gain that they got from the government.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/stunning-texas-coronavirus-numbers-show-covid-19-less-lethal-last-two-flu-seasons/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=daily

The coronavirus was actually less lethal than the flu in the state!
The flu had a mortality rate of 0.03% and 0.04%.
The coronavirus has a mortality rate of 0.01% in Texas.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 15, 2020, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 15, 2020, 11:29:14 AM
Governor Abbott of Texas did all he could do to mitigate the misinformation about this virus. If Texas was going to claim a death by it had to be substantiated. They refused to let anyone and everyone who happened to die in the past 6 months be attributed to covid-19 on their death certificate. So their numbers happened to be a little bit different then the rest of the states that weren't so particular and what day listed as death by covid what economic gain that got from the government.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/stunning-texas-coronavirus-numbers-show-covid-19-less-lethal-last-two-flu-seasons/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=daily

The coronavirus was actually less lethal than the flu in the state!
The flu had a mortality rate of 0.03% and 0.04%.
The coronavirus has a mortality rate of 0.01% in Texas.
Joe the lying Troll won't understand what that means. He's one of those idiots that wears a mask and rubber gloves while he's driving in his car. He probably wears a mask in his own trailer.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on July 16, 2020, 05:38:52 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 14, 2020, 06:43:09 PM
I agree.

This isn't even a permanent cultural change like the ban on smoking in many places because it effects those around you.

It's a temporary request to not infect others or get infected yourself when in a crowded situation.

I agree that it should be a "request", and not a mandate. Now as for getting others "infected" (self included) I agree with what the Surgeon's General and CDC head Fauci  initially implied - mask are of little use where contracting COVID is concerned.
My, opinion is that they are lying now, rather than lying then.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 16, 2020, 05:30:43 PM
https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1283880420858363905

They're calling our Governor "DeathSantis" now...many people aren't happy with the State's response
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 16, 2020, 05:37:15 PM
Ted bundy did not kill 3 people.   He admitted to 36 and then later on intimated that it was as high as 100.

So why should i believe your lying graph?

Where did you get that?  Adam Schiff for Brains?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 16, 2020, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 16, 2020, 05:37:15 PM
Ted bundy did not kill 3 people.   He admitted to 36 and then later on intimated that it was as high as 100.

So why should i believe your lying graph?

Where did you get that?  Adam Schiff for Brains?
That's why he is Joe the lying Troll.  Notice he didn't say anything about all the BS  china virus tests in Florida. The truth is Ron DeSantis hasn't killed anyone.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 16, 2020, 06:40:48 PM
What about all these Idiot Governors in these leftists states who are releasing infected Prisoners into the population....the double whammy, WUFLU carrying felons released to wreck mayhem by crime and disease.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on July 16, 2020, 07:40:00 PM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on July 16, 2020, 06:22:56 PM
That's why he is Joe the lying Troll.  Notice he didn't say anything about all the BS  china virus tests in Florida. The truth is Ron DeSantis hasn't killed anyone.

THAT is exactly right.   There have been far fewer deaths in Florida than in New York where the murderous Governor Cuomo intentionally placed covid patients with noncovid patients.   He should face charges for how he handle the covid epidemic in NY.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 17, 2020, 03:23:14 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 16, 2020, 05:30:43 PM
https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1283880420858363905

They're calling our Governor "DeathSantis" now...many people aren't happy with the State's response
And nobody thinks the protest had anything to do with the increase?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on July 17, 2020, 12:40:10 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 16, 2020, 06:40:48 PM
What about all these Idiot Governors in these leftists states who are releasing infected Prisoners into the population....the double whammy, WUFLU carrying felons released to wreck mayhem by crime and disease.

Here's a governor who did the right thing and it paid off in a big way.

https://youtu.be/7ZgeVnWbxv4

Speaking with host Steve Doocy of Fox & Friends on Friday, South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem explained that coronavirus cases in her state are continuing to drop even after hosting Donald Trump's 4th of July speech at Mount Rushmore.

Describing how she dealt with the virus, Noem said, "I think what we did here in South Dakota is really remarkable because we gave people their freedom."

The decision to let South Dakotans continue to work and choose whether or not to wear masks is nearly the complete opposite of actions taken by most states around the country.

"According to the national experts, did everything wrong," Noem declared. "We did what the people on the ground saw. We aggressively addressed those situations and came out better for it.

https://www.infowars.com/sd-gov-noem-says-no-new-outbreak-after-she-gave-people-their-freedom/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 17, 2020, 07:07:35 PM
For you idiot libs who still think the CCP Flu is about health? You're gullible fools!!!!




(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdKJ2kPUcAEik1d?format=jpg&name=large)


https://twitter.com/realAlexBaumann/status/1284240420302536705
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2020, 06:44:21 AM
Perspective!!!

What if I Were To Tell You The truth?





(https://i2.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/covid-19-death-rate-without-a-vaccine-lower-than-flu-with-a-vaccine.jpg?w=500&ssl=1)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2020, 07:14:23 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1283593678347333632
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: joesixpack on July 20, 2020, 08:47:41 AM
https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1285235158954717184


This is probably his new campaign manager's idea.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on July 20, 2020, 08:54:07 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 20, 2020, 08:47:41 AM
This is probably his new campaign manager's idea.
BS Joe the lying Troll.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 20, 2020, 10:04:43 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on July 20, 2020, 08:47:41 AM
https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1285235158954717184


This is probably his new campaign manager's idea.
This has been in the works since he stopped daily briefings. It was only a matter of time before the bug ran its course and now Trump will show the public it's time to go back to work.
Expect to see the left throw a fit over this, and I'll enjoy every moment of their meltdown. :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on August 22, 2020, 10:30:46 AM
Mask and you shall receive??    W.  T.  H.     

This was a mask ad....and I find it disturbing.   

1.  that they took scripture and did this and
2.  That will be the law of Joe Biden's administration.
3.   prophetic of the end times.   Mark and you shall receive, Mask and you shall receive.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on August 27, 2020, 06:17:28 PM
https://www.redstate.com/michael_thau/2020/08/26/the-covid-19-testing-scam-exposed-in-one-graph/?utm_source=rsafternoonbriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=57139bde57e070d7cce67b2f02003c45

testing scam exposed.


And, if you're so brainwashed that you still can't accept the obvious fact that your breath is pouring out of the sides of that mask you've got on, here's a long list of research some conscientious person put together showing that wearing it (a) does nothing to stop viruses from spreading but (b) may be harmful to your health.

Parents are also being threatened with another round of school shutdowns, which again wouldn't be necessary even if cases were really rising. We know from at least three sources that people without symptoms don't spread COVID-19.

The first is a recent comprehensive study that I reported on last week.

The second is the first documented U.S. COVID-19 case, who wasn't diagnosed until she developed pneumonia a week after returning from China. Her husband didn't accompany her, but was hospitalized 8 days later and then diagnosed with it as well.

Of the 372 people the CDC tracked down who had contact with either of them, not a single one caught the virus. The only person she gave it to was the man she lived with as husband after she developed symptoms. And he infected no one else at all.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 27, 2020, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on August 22, 2020, 10:30:46 AM
Mask and you shall receive??    W.  T.  H.     

This was a mask ad....and I find it disturbing.   

1.  that they took scripture and did this and
2.  That will be the law of Joe Biden's administration.
3.   prophetic of the end times.   Mark and you shall receive, Mask and you shall receive.


Those who would buy trade or sell must wear the Beasts mark......revelations
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 27, 2020, 07:45:19 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 27, 2020, 06:31:09 PM

Those who would buy trade or sell must wear the Beasts mark......revelations
OOOH!!! Interesting take!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 30, 2020, 06:33:31 AM
And now we've come full circle on the Commie Flu, it was all a big ass Fuckin Lie!!!


CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses

So get this straight – based on the recommendation of doctors Fauci and Birx the US shut down the entire economy based on 9,000 American deaths to the China coronavirus.

The CDC silently updated their numbers this week to show that only 6% of all coronavirus deaths were related to the coronavirus alone.  The rest of the deaths pinned to the China coronavirus are attributed to individuals who had other serious issues going on.  Also, most of the deaths are related to very old Americans.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/shock-report-week-cdc-quietly-updated-covid-19-numbers-9210-americans-died-covid-19-alone-rest-serious-illnesses/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on August 30, 2020, 07:20:22 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2020, 06:33:31 AM
And now we've come full circle on the Commie Flu, it was all a big ass Fuckin Lie!!!


CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses

So get this straight – based on the recommendation of doctors Fauci and Birx the US shut down the entire economy based on 9,000 American deaths to the China coronavirus.

The CDC silently updated their numbers this week to show that only 6% of all coronavirus deaths were related to the coronavirus alone.  The rest of the deaths pinned to the China coronavirus are attributed to individuals who had other serious issues going on.  Also, most of the deaths are related to very old Americans.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/shock-report-week-cdc-quietly-updated-covid-19-numbers-9210-americans-died-covid-19-alone-rest-serious-illnesses/
That's the point people have been making all along.  It's funny how a guy that goes through a windshield in a car accident has his death listed as China plague. It's also funny how since February everyone that has died has died from the China plague. The numbers of deaths caused by the china plague were inflated and wer8ng a mask is BS.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 30, 2020, 10:03:24 AM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on August 30, 2020, 07:20:22 AM
That's the point people have been making all along.  It's funny how a guy that goes through a windshield in a car accident has his death listed as China plague. It's also funny how since February everyone that has died has died from the China plague. The numbers of deaths caused by the china plague were inflated and wer8ng a mask is BS.
What's worse, is all the elderly who, were in a sense, executed, by Blue State Mayors. :sneaky:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 30, 2020, 10:08:09 AM
Need more be said?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

(https://i2.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/simple-way-to-kill-mosquitos-salt-tequila-stick-rock-covid-19-death.jpg?w=480&ssl=1)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Killer Clouds on August 30, 2020, 10:44:01 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2020, 10:08:09 AM
Need more be said?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

(https://i2.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/simple-way-to-kill-mosquitos-salt-tequila-stick-rock-covid-19-death.jpg?w=480&ssl=1)
That's hilarious.  I stole it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 30, 2020, 11:26:38 AM
Quote from: Killer Clouds on August 30, 2020, 10:44:01 AM
That's hilarious.  I stole it.
:biggrin:
I love the double joke part.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 30, 2020, 04:09:21 PM
(https://i1.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/cdc-facts-about-wuhan-two-months-later-sponge-bob.jpg?resize=505%2C398&ssl=1)
Title: Updated Numbers
Post by: Solar on September 05, 2020, 05:46:52 PM
Now the full truth comes out...

Good news patriots,

I bullet pointed the following information for clarity.  Recent information (September 2020) has been released by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) along with a new study by UCLA and Stanford Universities.  YouTubes and links below are the source of this information.

UCLA & Stanford studies concluded:

1 per 3,836 people have a chance of getting infected with Covid (0.026%)
People ages 50 – 64 have a 1 per 852,000 chance of being hospitalized (0.00011%)
The same age group has a 1 per 19.1 million chance of dying (0.0000052%)
The risk of people dying in a car crash is 1 per 114 (0.87%)
The figures above were from the last week in May when deaths from Covid were 16 times higher than the last week in August.

The CDC has now reported that all deaths attributed to Covid, only 6% died from Covid.  The other 94% had severe underlining conditions from other illnesses.

Including all ages, deaths in the USA from Covid has recently been reported to be around 10,000 per 167,000 deaths related to Covid (6%)
With a population of 330,000,000 the CDC report would mean that 1 per 33,000 people have died from Covid (0.003%)
This means that 99.997% of the USA population has not died from Covid.
To put these statistics into perspective: 1 per 33,000 have died of Covid while 290 per 33,000 have died in a car crash.

With this newly released information, Covid cannot be considered a deadly pandemic as once thought.  All businesses and schools should open at once. 


https://youtu.be/FDDkY9z908M

https://youtu.be/P0y6M-N8wOE

https://needtoknow.news/2020/09/cdc-data-shows-only-6-of-covid-19-deaths-listed-the-virus-as-the-sole-cause-of-death/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=cdc-data-shows-only-6-of-covid-19-deaths-listed-the-virus-as-the-sole-cause-of-death

Title: Re: Updated Numbers
Post by: Killer Clouds on September 05, 2020, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2020, 05:46:52 PM
Now the full truth comes out...

Good news patriots,

I bullet pointed the following information for clarity.  Recent information (September 2020) has been released by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) along with a new study by UCLA and Stanford Universities.  YouTubes and links below are the source of this information.

UCLA & Stanford studies concluded:

1 per 3,836 people have a chance of getting infected with Covid (0.026%)
People ages 50 – 64 have a 1 per 852,000 chance of being hospitalized (0.00011%)
The same age group has a 1 per 19.1 million chance of dying (0.0000052%)
The risk of people dying in a car crash is 1 per 114 (0.87%)
The figures above were from the last week in May when deaths from Covid were 16 times higher than the last week in August.

The CDC has now reported that all deaths attributed to Covid, only 6% died from Covid.  The other 94% had severe underlining conditions from other illnesses.

Including all ages, deaths in the USA from Covid has recently been reported to be around 10,000 per 167,000 deaths related to Covid (6%)
With a population of 330,000,000 the CDC report would mean that 1 per 33,000 people have died from Covid (0.003%)
This means that 99.997% of the USA population has not died from Covid.
To put these statistics into perspective: 1 per 33,000 have died of Covid while 290 per 33,000 have died in a car crash.

With this newly released information, Covid cannot be considered a deadly pandemic as once thought.  All businesses and schools should open at once. 


https://youtu.be/FDDkY9z908M

https://youtu.be/P0y6M-N8wOE

https://needtoknow.news/2020/09/cdc-data-shows-only-6-of-covid-19-deaths-listed-the-virus-as-the-sole-cause-of-death/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=cdc-data-shows-only-6-of-covid-19-deaths-listed-the-virus-as-the-sole-cause-of-death
Arrggghhhh! Quit posting this stuff. They are going to ban cars to keep us safe!
Title: proof COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab
Post by: Solar on September 12, 2020, 05:33:26 PM
Chinese virologist claims she has proof COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/China2.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1)


She insisted that widespread reports that the virus originated last year from a wet market in Wuhan, China, are "a smokescreen."

"The first thing is the [meat] market in Wuhan ... is a smokescreen and this virus is not from nature," Yan claimed, explaining that she got "her intelligence from the CDC in China, from the local doctors."

The virologist has previously accused Beijing of lying about when it learned of the killer bug and engaging in an extensive cover-up of her work.

She had said that her former supervisors at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, a reference laboratory for the World Health Organization, silenced her when she sounded the alarm about human-to-human transmission in December last year.

In April, Yan reportedly fled Hong Kong and escaped to America to raise awareness about the pandemic.
Now, she said she is planning to release scientific evidence to prove that the virus was made inside a lab in Wuhan.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/chinese-virologist-says-she-has-proof-covid-19-was-made-in-wuhan-lab/
Title: Re: proof COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab
Post by: supsalemgr on September 13, 2020, 05:27:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 12, 2020, 05:33:26 PM
Chinese virologist claims she has proof COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab

(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/09/China2.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1)


She insisted that widespread reports that the virus originated last year from a wet market in Wuhan, China, are "a smokescreen."

"The first thing is the [meat] market in Wuhan ... is a smokescreen and this virus is not from nature," Yan claimed, explaining that she got "her intelligence from the CDC in China, from the local doctors."

The virologist has previously accused Beijing of lying about when it learned of the killer bug and engaging in an extensive cover-up of her work.

She had said that her former supervisors at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, a reference laboratory for the World Health Organization, silenced her when she sounded the alarm about human-to-human transmission in December last year.

In April, Yan reportedly fled Hong Kong and escaped to America to raise awareness about the pandemic.
Now, she said she is planning to release scientific evidence to prove that the virus was made inside a lab in Wuhan.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/chinese-virologist-says-she-has-proof-covid-19-was-made-in-wuhan-lab/

Haven't you heard? Pelosi says it's Trump's fault.  :lol:
Title: Re: proof COVID-19 was made in Wuhan lab
Post by: Solar on September 13, 2020, 07:12:49 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 13, 2020, 05:27:11 AM
Haven't you heard? Pelosi says it's Trump's fault.  :lol:
Their lies came back to bite them in the ass. It's over, the DNC rein of terror is over in November.
Title: Yes CCP virus was manufactured!
Post by: Skull on September 16, 2020, 06:02:37 AM
Nothing natural about it, as brave Chinese doctor testifies:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/09/16/chinese-whistleblower-on-tucker-coronavirus-was-manmade-and-released-intentionally-n2576273 (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/09/16/chinese-whistleblower-on-tucker-coronavirus-was-manmade-and-released-intentionally-n2576273)
Title: Re: Yes CCP virus was manufactured!
Post by: Solar on September 16, 2020, 06:05:48 AM
Already posted...

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/msg427173/#new
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on September 16, 2020, 06:46:22 AM
One item I would love to hear explained, with a deadly virus raging across the country, killing millions of extremely healthy citizens who practice wearing an impregnable to all virus mask, practice sanitizing themselves from head to foot every twenty minutes, avoid all contact with others, etc, why do we still have homeless camps? They still seem to be thriving. Shouldn't they be wiped out by now? Shouldn't the hospitals be overrun with sick homeless patients? Should we be practicing no masks, crowded living conditions, no sanitation, crapping on the sidewalks, drugs, alcohol, etc? (of course I am not willing to participate in this study) I'm beginning to suspect somebody ain't telling the truth here.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on September 16, 2020, 07:09:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=qFlqXPl_hZQ&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Skull on September 16, 2020, 07:52:13 AM
Text of Carlson's remarks regarding CCP virus & corruption of science:

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/09/16/tucker-carlson-from-its-very-first-days-this-pandemic-was-shrouded-in-lies/ (https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/09/16/tucker-carlson-from-its-very-first-days-this-pandemic-was-shrouded-in-lies/)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on September 16, 2020, 07:56:27 AM
Quote from: Possum on September 16, 2020, 06:46:22 AM
One item I would love to hear explained, with a deadly virus raging across the country, killing millions of extremely healthy citizens who practice wearing an impregnable to all virus mask, practice sanitizing themselves from head to foot every twenty minutes, avoid all contact with others, etc, why do we still have homeless camps? They still seem to be thriving. Shouldn't they be wiped out by now? Shouldn't the hospitals be overrun with sick homeless patients? Should we be practicing no masks, crowded living conditions, no sanitation, crapping on the sidewalks, drugs, alcohol, etc? (of course I am not willing to participate in this study) I'm beginning to suspect somebody ain't telling the truth here.
Excellent point!
Ever noticed the homeless in La. Not a one of those people wear masks, not to mention nearly 90% are drug abuser, meaning they have a comprised immune system.
Yet, there they are, all shittn in the streets and doin drugs as if nothing ever happened.

Gee, it's almost as if the left perpetrated the biggest hoax since global warming, which they have now forgotten about. Remember Greta Thunberg? Me either. :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on September 17, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1306578693901484042
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on September 17, 2020, 11:45:45 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 17, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1306578693901484042

I'll buy that for a dollar!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on September 30, 2020, 01:26:38 PM
BUSTED on Hot Mic: PA Gov. Wolf and Elected Crony Laughing About Masks as 'Political Theater'


If this video doesn't get your blood pressure up after months of being forced to wear masks "for your safety," then you're probably dead already from the Chinese WuFlu (or at least that's what the coroner scribbled on your death certificate).

Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf and Representative Wendy Ullman (D-Bad People) were caught on a hot mic giggling about the "political theater" they were about to partake in at a press conference.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311065135667204096

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2020/09/29/busted-on-hot-mic-pa-gov-wolf-and-elected-crony-laughing-about-masks-as-political-theater-n986251
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on September 30, 2020, 01:39:09 PM
Everyone  knows they dont wear  masks off  camera but what  does  it  matter. President Fauci, i mean Czar Fauci or whatever says they MUST  be worn so they will be worn.
Title: Bubonic Plague, Is This he Next CCP Flu?
Post by: Solar on September 30, 2020, 02:37:08 PM


https://twitter.com/EpochTimesChina/status/1311408662146174979
Title: Re: Bubonic Plague, Is This he Next CCP Flu?
Post by: ldub23 on October 01, 2020, 04:26:00 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 30, 2020, 02:37:08 PM

https://twitter.com/EpochTimesChina/status/1311408662146174979

Good reason for  Czar  Fauci and president  biden to shut  us  down completely
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on October 01, 2020, 04:27:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 17, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1306578693901484042

Barr says  so many wonderful things.
Title: Re: Bubonic Plague, Is This he Next CCP Flu?
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2020, 06:16:47 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on October 01, 2020, 04:26:00 AM
Good reason for  Czar  Fauci and president  biden to shut  us  down completely
Not a matter of if, but how hard were you dropped Thrown on your head as a child?
Title: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: joesixpack on November 09, 2020, 12:25:38 PM
A promising coronavirus vaccine being developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, a German biotechnology firm, was over 90% effective compared to a placebo injection and did not produce any safety concerns, according to an analysis by a third-party data monitoring committee.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/11/09/pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-over-90-effective-company-says/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-over-90-effective-company-says



Markets, of course, are soaring on the news.

I'm personally still on the "wait and see" side of things when it come to these type of announcements.
Title: Re: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: ConservativeInCT on November 09, 2020, 12:31:28 PM
Anything that will get us back to normal and help save lives is good. I'm holding my breath on it too.
The issue will be distribution, as well as those who are anti-vax.
Title: Re: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: supsalemgr on November 10, 2020, 04:35:24 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on November 09, 2020, 12:25:38 PM
A promising coronavirus vaccine being developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, a German biotechnology firm, was over 90% effective compared to a placebo injection and did not produce any safety concerns, according to an analysis by a third-party data monitoring committee.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/11/09/pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-over-90-effective-company-says/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-over-90-effective-company-says



Markets, of course, are soaring on the news.

I'm personally still on the "wait and see" side of things when it come to these type of announcements.

Isn't great we live in a country that gives you the right to make this decision yourself?
Title: Re: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: joesixpack on November 10, 2020, 07:46:37 PM
Quote from: ConservativeInCT on November 09, 2020, 12:31:28 PM
Anything that will get us back to normal and help save lives is good. I'm holding my breath on it too.
The issue will be distribution, as well as those who are anti-vax.

I was talking to a buddy about this recent outbreak...

when this all began, Pence said that if we locked down for 2 weeks we'd flatten the curve.

Unfortunately, I feel like as a nation we didn't take it seriously.

I would like to see a 1 month lock-down and a stimulus passed and everyone to wear masks once we get off the lockdown.

There's no reason why after 1 month of sitting at home, EVERYONE can't go out and live a normal life again, except by wearing masks. Even that might not be needed depending on how this vaccine business shakes out.

But for us to still be dealing with this damn virus is outrageous
Title: Re: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: ConservativeInCT on November 10, 2020, 07:57:43 PM
Quote from: joesixpack on November 10, 2020, 07:46:37 PM
I was talking to a buddy about this recent outbreak...

when this all began, Pence said that if we locked down for 2 weeks we'd flatten the curve.

Unfortunately, I feel like as a nation we didn't take it seriously.

I would like to see a 1 month lock-down and a stimulus passed and everyone to wear masks once we get off the lockdown.

There's no reason why after 1 month of sitting at home, EVERYONE can't go out and live a normal life again, except by wearing masks. Even that might not be needed depending on how this vaccine business shakes out.

But for us to still be dealing with this damn virus is outrageous

I'm all for the mask wearing, I think its done quite a bit, however I don't agree with the one month lockdown. Sure, it would slow the curve, but people will still get the virus, and once the lockdown has been lifted, the spread would just continue. Lockdowns were never meant to stop the spread, it was more so to prevent the number of hospitalizations.
Title: Re: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: supsalemgr on November 11, 2020, 04:54:09 AM
Quote from: joesixpack on November 10, 2020, 07:46:37 PM
I was talking to a buddy about this recent outbreak...

when this all began, Pence said that if we locked down for 2 weeks we'd flatten the curve.

Unfortunately, I feel like as a nation we didn't take it seriously.

I would like to see a 1 month lock-down and a stimulus passed and everyone to wear masks once we get off the lockdown.

There's no reason why after 1 month of sitting at home, EVERYONE can't go out and live a normal life again, except by wearing masks. Even that might not be needed depending on how this vaccine business shakes out.

But for us to still be dealing with this damn virus is outrageous

Damn! How simplistic and naive. The key is getting the vaccine to all who want it. If you don't want it, fine. Proceed at your own risk.
Title: Re: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: Sick Of Silence on November 11, 2020, 08:48:35 AM
How many more months do we need to be locked down?

We could have just stopped unnecessary get togethers (concerts, protests, etc.), distanced ourselves (every other table or chair), and we wouldn't need a stimulus (business wouldn't have be going out of business nor people losing jobs) and still could have had normal lives.

I don't know about you: I am not so keen on taking a rushed "cure", especially if it will be mandated by the government.
Title: Political left and their censors, Big Pharma, FDA, NIH, killed 200,000 Americans
Post by: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 06:21:09 AM
The political left, along with Big Pharma, the FDA, NIH, and CDC and their "social" media censors at Google/YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and even Linkedin and Next Door, are directly responsible for the completely unnecessary deaths of over 200,000 Americans - and counting.

Yet the current 700 to 1,000 daily death rate in the U.S. could theoretically be reduced to 10 or 7 and perhaps even 0, within a couple of weeks (https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=18.msg384#msg384), if we adopted immediate national universal early treatment - immediately upon the presentation of symptoms or clinical suspicion of COVID-19 - with the world renowned Zelenko Protocol.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=18.0

This accidental reverse Swiss model illustrates the length of time it would take:

(https://assets.realclear.com/images/51/517551_5_.png)

Competent treating physicians like Dr. Brian Tyson illustrate the up to 100% effectiveness. Dr. Tyson saw over 17,000 patients and treated 1,900 of the elderly or high-risk individuals that were COVID positive, from 11 months old to 90 years old, with 0 deaths and one hospitalization (for 4 days), and he was working his beat during the early days of the frightening devastation (in places like NY) of the virus back in March, with virtually no help from local, state or federal governments, and right near our border with Mexico no less, treating migrant agricultural and factory workers and other high-density-living poor that lived on both sides of the border.
If the video in the player immediately below becomes banned by Google/YouTube you can watch it on BitChute at this link:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BtuKJHQJIUjI/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe1TqxvXKTs
Title: Re: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 07:33:13 AM
There would be no need for a vaccination, face masks or even social distancing, if we adopted a national policy of early treatment with the Zelenko Protocol immediately upon presentation of symptoms or clinical suspicion of COVID-19, particularly with elderly and high-risk individuals.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=359.0
We could achieve herd immunity in months and the bonuses are we could open all business, live lives normally, and end the genocide of our elderly in nursing homes, through the loneliness and depression of isolation.
Let alone the potential for the "Bill Gates Effect" with a vaccine. There is a reason vaccines are generally not fully accepted for a number of years.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=185.0
Title: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 08:13:31 AM
You could save your own or a loved one's life by planning and preparing for COVID-19 in advance of infection. First ask your doctor BEFORE you get sick what treatment he would prescribe and at what point in your or your elderly parent's disease progression would he prescribe it.
While your own choice may be different, after some investigation my own personal choice became hydroxychloroquine+zinc+Azithromycin. So I asked my osteopathic doctor if that is what he would treat my family and very elderly mother with, should we become infected, and was happy to learn that is what he has been prescribing for all of his Chicom Flu patients since early on in the pandemic.
If your doctor says he would wait for the results of a COVID test (https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=357.0) before treating, what might that suggest about your doctor's knowledge regarding the unreliability of tests (https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=82.0), or about COVID-19 being a two stage disease (https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=2.0), let alone his level of understanding regarding the importance of early intervention (https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=254.0)? Even Tamiflu instructions state that treatment must begin within 2 days of the onset of symptoms.

The last thing you want to have to do is doctor shop after you or your elderly parent gets sick with COVID since every day or hour could be of dire significance.

Dr. Zelenko also recommends a prophylaxis protocol for elderly and high-risk patients, to reduce the odds of becoming infected or to reduce symptoms if you should become infected.
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=37.0

More on prevention and preparation:
https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?board=10.0
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2020, 08:40:58 AM
This is not a subject for the living Room.
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 08:55:43 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2020, 08:40:58 AM
This is not a subject for the living Room.

Sorry, could you please move it to a more appropriate forum category?
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2020, 09:04:10 AM
Quote from: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 08:55:43 AM
Sorry, could you please move it to a more appropriate forum category?
Walks, you want to merge this with:
https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/

Thanx...
Title: Re: Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Over 90% Effective, Company Says
Post by: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 09:13:57 AM
Let alone what would seem the obvious absence of need for any healthy person under 50 to get vaccinated, even if there were no Zelenko Protocol as a cure. I think this chart may be worldwide, so our U.S. curve would be much worse, since countries that have widespread early treatment with hydroxychloroquine enjoy a 70% lower death rate than countries that have only limited and late treatment with HCQ like the U.S., Mexico, the U.K. and France.

Image from https://hcqtrial.com/

(https://hcqtrial.com/img/ifr.svg)
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2020, 09:04:10 AM
Walks, you want to merge this with:
https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/

Thanx...

Since timely information could be a matter of life and death, particularly for a forum member's elderly loved ones, wouldn't burying it on the 81st page of a thread render it beyond obscure very quickly? I was hoping it could stand to directly benefit forum members.
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: supsalemgr on November 13, 2020, 11:39:19 AM
Quote from: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 10:33:15 AM
Since timely information could be a matter of life and death, particularly for a forum member's elderly loved ones, wouldn't burying it on the 81st page of a thread render it beyond obscure very quickly? I was hoping it could stand to directly benefit forum members.

Don't jump to conclusions. That particular subject thread gets the most action.
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 11:57:30 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 13, 2020, 11:39:19 AM
Don't jump to conclusions. That particular subject thread gets the most action.

I'm looking forward to becoming engaged on that thread. But when was the last time someone read a post on page 41? Or even 61? As a separate thread title it could even attract someone on a search engine looking for answers for their loved one.
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2020, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 10:33:15 AM
Since timely information could be a matter of life and death, particularly for a forum member's elderly loved ones, wouldn't burying it on the 81st page of a thread render it beyond obscure very quickly? I was hoping it could stand to directly benefit forum members.
There's a very good reason we don't haphazardly post stories all over the forum. The CCP Flu thread will become part of our library for research, so important information doesn't get lost in the thousands of threads no one would ever think to search.

Just like DNC vote Fraud, DNC ANTIFA BLM Riots, these will become historical references soon when someone needs the information, they'll go to one thread and find it all.
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2020, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 13, 2020, 11:39:19 AM
Don't jump to conclusions. That particular subject thread gets the most action.
BINGO!!! (Read 37556 times) :thumbup:
Title: Re: You could save your or a loved one's life by planning and preping for COVID-19
Post by: supsalemgr on November 13, 2020, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 11:57:30 AM
I'm looking forward to becoming engaged on that thread. But when was the last time someone read a post on page 41? Or even 61? As a separate thread title it could even attract someone on a search engine looking for answers for their loved one.

Here is the key. Don't click on the entire subject line, JUST the "new". That takes one directly to new posts since your last visit.
Title: The science of how hydroxychloroquine cures COVID-19
Post by: covid_cure on November 13, 2020, 01:20:26 PM
How hydroxychloroquine works by Dr. Mobeen Syed (and it works near 100% even in elderly and high-risk individuals, when taken with zinc and Azythromycin or Doxycyclene.

Another YouTube banned video by another one of those dastardly doctors, that is too dangerous to be allowed to speak:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Iovt9tpU00Zu/
Title: Re: The science of how hydroxychloroquine cures COVID-19
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2020, 01:34:40 PM
Do us a favor and limit all CCP Flu articles to the Covid thread.
Walks, you want to merge this?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on November 13, 2020, 02:04:41 PM
Governor Blackface Northam just issued exec order putting harder lockdown on virginia.
I hate this man.   Is it too awful to wish he was dead.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Calypso Jones on November 13, 2020, 04:08:17 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on November 13, 2020, 02:04:41 PM
Governor Blackface Northam just issued exec order putting harder lockdown on virginia.
I hate this man.   Is it too awful to wish he was dead.

Governor Blackface/BabyKiller Northam's health czar dr. Norman Oliver said this lockdown may last for 2 years.     The interesting thing is that Dr. Norman Oliver and the media have not used Dr. Oliver's first name that he always used, since early 2020.    It's Dr. M.  Norman Oliver.  The M Stands for Mohammad.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2020, 04:17:03 PM
Quote from: Calypso Jones on November 13, 2020, 04:08:17 PM
Governor Blackface/BabyKiller Northam's health czar dr. Norman Oliver said this lockdown may last for 2 years.     The interesting thing is that Dr. Norman Oliver and the media have not used Dr. Oliver's first name that he always used, since early 2020.    It's Dr. M.  Norman Oliver.  The M Stands for Mohammad.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Color me socked.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 15, 2020, 11:01:26 AM
Think DNC and their media applying Mk Ultra techniques via CCP Flu lock downs/isolation ...


Mr. GITTINGER. Well, of course, there has been a great deal of work
on this, and there is still a great deal of controversy. I can tell you that
as far as I knew, by 1961, 1962, it was at least proven to my satisfaction that brainwashing, so called, is some kind of an esoteric device
where drugs or mind-altering kinds of conditions and so forth were
used, did not exist even though "The Manchurian Candidate" as a
movie really set us back a long time, because it made something impossible look plausible. Do you follow what I mean ? But by 1962 and
1963, the general idea that we were able to come up with is that brainwashing was largely a process of isolating a human being, keeping
him out of contact, putting him under long stress in relationship to
interviewing and interrogation, and that they could produce any
change that way without having to resort to any kind of esoteric
means.


https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hearings/95mkultra.pdf
Title: Biden say that masks will be required until vast majority vaccinated.
Post by: Bluepig on March 19, 2021, 06:20:05 AM
Anyone know where this is going? Masks are now going to be weaponized. If you take the poison and live, then you will blame those who are not sheep and did not take the shot for extending the mask mandate. Thinking people will agree that wearing a mask does nothing beyond stopping you from spitting and sneezing on others (and visa versa). If a mask does not stop drywall dust, it is not going to stop a virus. While my drywall analogy is an oversimplified parallel, the basics of the premises are intact. 

As we've already seen, we have masked and mask-less people attacking each other, or seemingly every day. There are Karen's on both sides, but at least the Karen's refusing to wear the masks have a "free people - individual rights" justification for refusing to comply. If anyone, even the CDC were to come out with scientific proof that the masks had a net positive effect, then the basics of Social Responsibility would have merit. Unfortunately, the only certainties about the masks are these:

1. Few wash them if they are cloth. They sit on your seat in the car, on the dash, hang from the rear view, stay in a coat, pant pocket, or purse; as such contamination expand. I see people pulling out and reusing disposable masks.
2. They increase the potential to develop bacterial pneumonia. You're breathing your own exhaust.
3. Unless you use a mask like a healthcare worker, they are entirely ineffective. Dispose after every use, treated as only effective when reasonable distance rules are applied, and never used in cases where there are known blood or aerosolized bacterial contaminates are present. You know when a healthcare worker or their employer is serious, because they wear gowns, gloves, full face coverings, or are otherwise clothed in a bio-suit.
4. They are visual displays of conformity based upon ignorance or compliance to a mandate (you want to shop in this store you'll wear a mask). We have a grocery store in our area that refuses to mandate masks. I know the owner, and he says they get business from two towns 12 miles away in two different directions. He has not lost one employee day to Covid, nor has he had anyone test positive, and they see thousands of people per day. They get my business for two reasons, ease of access, and a free persons ideologies. Sure, they have a sign on the door that asks people to be cautious, and they ENCOURAGE the wearing of masks. I won't speculate if the sign is a version of protectionism (Uncle Sam, we encouraged everyone to wear them).
5. Masks, in this case, are a test of how compliant the populace is to government intrusion of our individual rights. "If we can get the sheep to wear masks, we can get them to curtail their other freedoms; speech, religion, self-defense, tracking, to forgo their privacy, etc."
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: RV on March 19, 2021, 07:37:01 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 22, 2020, 03:30:50 PM
Yep, China fired a bullet and now they're racing to get ahead of it.
Too late...
Also there's evidence that his virus is already mutating, but they claim there isn't enough evidence. So why did they broach the subject in the first place?

The Wuhan virus is "mutating"? So, the "vaccine" that was rushed through is about as effective as the seasonal flu vaccine? Sounds rather fishy to me...
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2021, 07:46:19 AM
Quote from: RV on March 19, 2021, 07:37:01 AM
The Wuhan virus is "mutating"? So, the "vaccine" that was rushed through is about as effective as the seasonal flu vaccine? Sounds rather fishy to me...
And the sad part is, it's not even a vaccine, that was a lie.
I started this thread before most of the world had even heard about it, knowing it was going to be an issue, but had no clue the marxists would use it to purposefully cripple the worlds economy and help the CCP, the very perpetrators.

Hindsight being 20/20, it's become obvious this was a Global WMD Biological attack.
Title: Re: Biden say that masks will be required until vast majority vaccinated.
Post by: Pop Daddy on March 19, 2021, 08:05:58 AM
Big question: Xiden's definition of "vast majority".  I bet that changes daily.
Title: Re: Biden say that masks will be required until vast majority vaccinated.
Post by: Solar on March 19, 2021, 08:09:25 AM
Walks, merge this with the stickied WUFL thread. We have too many running on the topic.
Thanx
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bluepig on March 19, 2021, 09:56:08 AM
I feel you Solar. I was talking about the ingredients of the seasonal flu vaccine back in 1992 when I had a computer store in N. Florida. I had all manner of public notices in the customer area, as well as in my office. I also had what is today known as a kiosk as soon as you came in the door, and a topic/folder based CD that I left in for people to search topics I downloaded from BBS sites, and burnt them onto CD for customers, as well as let them print out articles from that computer. Waaaaaaaay back then the burner was one of the first of it's kind and had it's own caddie that you inserted the CD into (Made by LMSI). When the Bay County political body found out about my adverts, I would frequently get guests who would walk around reading the articles, but showed no interest in my products and services. After one of my regular customers noticed the frequency of a couple visitors, he suggested that they might be local political figures. Then I posted a notice on the front door telling ALL Government Employees/LE must identify themselves upon entering, took down the flyers, and put up a CCTV. My abstract visitors stopped coming in the store. I also had 1,000 Black on Yellow bumper stickers made that said "Impeach Clinton, Let's Do Something Right" and gave them out with purchases.
Title: CDC admits at least 96% of deaths from Covid19 were WRONG!
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2021, 07:11:27 AM
CDC admits at least 96% of deaths from Covid19 were WRONG!

https://newtube.app/WorldView/LXvWUQx
Title: Re: CDC admits at least 96% of deaths from Covid19 were WRONG!
Post by: RV on March 20, 2021, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 20, 2021, 07:11:27 AM
CDC admits at least 96% of deaths from Covid19 were WRONG!

https://newtube.app/WorldView/LXvWUQx

Yeah but, the Marxist media will not let that out to the public. Most of the public has no idea because the counts were rigged, it isn't a "vaccine" as the Marxist's are claiming AND outside of a sterile environment (i.e. an operating theatre), masks do NOT prevent transmission. It's all a facade, it's always been a facade, it will always be a facade AND it was all done to get President Trump out of office!
Title: Re: CDC admits at least 96% of deaths from Covid19 were WRONG!
Post by: Solar on March 20, 2021, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: RV on March 20, 2021, 12:58:14 PM
Yeah but, the Marxist media will not let that out to the public. Most of the public has no idea because the counts were rigged, it isn't a "vaccine" as the Marxist's are claiming AND outside of a sterile environment (i.e. an operating theatre), masks do NOT prevent transmission. It's all a facade, it's always been a facade, it will always be a facade AND it was all done to get President Trump out of office!
Yep....
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on March 27, 2021, 06:30:50 PM
Really love the sarcasm...  tongue in cheek response.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/064/329/336/original/aa639f69622cd626.mp4 (https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/064/329/336/original/aa639f69622cd626.mp4)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 27, 2021, 08:05:19 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on March 27, 2021, 06:30:50 PM
Really love the sarcasm...  tongue in cheek response.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/064/329/336/original/aa639f69622cd626.mp4 (https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/064/329/336/original/aa639f69622cd626.mp4)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Spot on!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2021, 04:46:57 PM
Biden Administration Working On Vaccine Passport System
March 28, 2021  9and10news Site Staff


The Biden Administration is working on a system for Americans to prove they have been vaccinated against the virus.

They're calling it the "Vax Pass" or Vaccine Passport.

The passport could be used by individuals in the workplace, in school or when travelling internationally.

A senior White House official says multiple agencies are involved in the planning, and this passport could play a role in multiple areas of daily life.

The travel industry has been calling on the government to develop a kind of universal vaccine pass system.

According to the Washington Post, the demand for the pass is expected to become more urgent as more Americans continue to receive their dose of the vaccine.

https://www.9and10news.com/2021/03/28/biden-administration-working-on-vaccine-passport-system/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on March 28, 2021, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2021, 04:46:57 PM
Biden Administration Working On Vaccine Passport System
March 28, 2021  9and10news Site Staff

The Biden Administration is working on a system for Americans to prove they have been vaccinated against the virus.

They're calling it the "Vax Pass" or Vaccine Passport.

The passport could be used by individuals in the workplace, in school or when travelling internationally.

A senior White House official says multiple agencies are involved in the planning, and this passport could play a role in multiple areas of daily life.

The travel industry has been calling on the government to develop a kind of universal vaccine pass system.

According to the Washington Post, the demand for the pass is expected to become more urgent as more Americans continue to receive their dose of the vaccine.

https://www.9and10news.com/2021/03/28/biden-administration-working-on-vaccine-passport-system/

This is just one more excuse to deny AMERICANS access, employment, etc. While they deny natural citizens, the Bejing administration is allowing illegals to flaunt our laws with impunity. I guess this is what the CCP is telling Bejing that they want done.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 28, 2021, 05:34:24 PM
Quote from: RV on March 28, 2021, 05:06:43 PM
This is just one more excuse to deny AMERICANS access, employment, etc. While they deny natural citizens, the Bejing administration is allowing illegals to flaunt our laws with impunity. I guess this is what the CCP is telling Bejing that they want done.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 29, 2021, 03:19:59 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2021, 05:34:24 PM
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised...
And once you have the passport which shows you have been vaccinated, in order to work, etc, what else will be demanded to be on that passport? It will not stop with just a vaccine. Will it show party affiliation? If any guns are registered? What religion?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2021, 07:35:00 AM
Quote from: Possum on March 29, 2021, 03:19:59 AM
And once you have the passport which shows you have been vaccinated, in order to work, etc, what else will be demanded to be on that passport? It will not stop with just a vaccine. Will it show party affiliation? If any guns are registered? What religion?
That's the thing, it never ends and neither will this Marxist mask shit, with the exception of Red States, the left will continue their push in scaring the masses of ignorant.
"Two Weeks" that all we ask to flatten the curve, and here we are over a year later with little children thinking subservience is their future.

The Marxist DNC bit off more than it can chew and is choking on it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on March 29, 2021, 09:34:53 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2021, 07:35:00 AM
That's the thing, it never ends and neither will this Marxist mask shit, with the exception of Red States, the left will continue their push in scaring the masses of ignorant.
"Two Weeks" that all we ask to flatten the curve, and here we are over a year later with little children thinking subservience is their future.

The Marxist DNC bit off more than it can chew and is choking on it.

You are absolutely right, it NEVER ends. First they tried to tell us that the "lockdown and masks" were only for two weeks to "flatten the curve". Now it's a year later and what do we have? MORE lockdowns, MORE scare tactics, virus "mutations" and now the Marxist media is pushing vaccination 24/7. After the sheeple are "vaccinated" my guess is that there will be another "crisis", "pandemic" or some such nonsense to scare the wits out the masses.

You know when we had a car payment, the government couldn't have cared less. When my children were growing up, the government couldn't have cared less. When our basement had leaks, the government couldn't have cared less. When my wife had stage 4 Cancer, the government couldn't have cared less. When I was working my butt off with no insurance whatsoever, the government couldn't have cared less. When I had gall bladder trouble, the government couldn't have cared less. When the brake lines went out on my truck ON THE HIGHWAY AT SPEED, the government couldn't have cared less. When I went through SEVEN ROUNDS of chemotherapy each lasting a year, the government couldn't have cared less. NOW the government is trying to force me and my family to get an injection with zero accountability, zero foreknowledge of which one I'm getting and with no recourse should something go wrong? No thank you.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2021, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: RV on March 29, 2021, 09:34:53 AM
You are absolutely right, it NEVER ends. First they tried to tell us that the "lockdown and masks" were only for two weeks to "flatten the curve". Now it's a year later and what do we have? MORE lockdowns, MORE scare tactics, virus "mutations" and now the Marxist media is pushing vaccination 24/7. After the sheeple are "vaccinated" my guess is that there will be another "crisis", "pandemic" or some such nonsense to scare the wits out the masses.
Bingo!!!
They floated the two week balloon and discovered they could get away with it. Sure glad the GOP was out in front of this BS and put a Constitutional stop to it... :rolleyes:

QuoteYou know when we had a car payment, the government couldn't have cared less. When my children were growing up, the government couldn't have cared less. When our basement had leaks, the government couldn't have cared less. When my wife had stage 4 Cancer, the government couldn't have cared less. When I was working my butt off with no insurance whatsoever, the government couldn't have cared less. When I had gall bladder trouble, the government couldn't have cared less. When the brake lines went out on my truck ON THE HIGHWAY AT SPEED, the government couldn't have cared less. When I went through SEVEN ROUNDS of chemotherapy each lasting a year, the government couldn't have cared less. NOW the government is trying to force me and my family to get an injection with zero accountability, zero foreknowledge of which one I'm getting and with no recourse should something go wrong? No thank you.
Yep, and suddenly they care? If it wasn't so scary, it would be laughable...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2021, 08:18:43 AM
 :rolleyes:

Covid: new vaccines needed globally within a year, say scientists

The planet could have a year or less before first-generation Covid-19 vaccines are ineffective and modified formulations are needed, according to a survey of epidemiologists, virologists and infectious disease specialists.

Scientists have long stressed that a global vaccination effort is needed to satisfactorily neutralise the threat of Covid-19. This is due to the threat of variations of the virus – some more transmissible, deadly and less susceptible to vaccines – that are emerging and percolating.

The grim forecast of a year or less comes from two-thirds of respondents, according to the People's Vaccine Alliance, a coalition of organisations including Amnesty International, Oxfam, and UNAIDS, who carried out the survey of 77 scientists from 28 countries. Nearly one-third of the respondents indicated that the time-frame was likely nine months or less.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/new-covid-vaccines-needed-within-year-say-scientists
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2021, 06:44:15 PM
Folks, you have to see this from 1956, it is spot on!!! :scared:

https://tv.gab.com/channel/1source/view/plague-in-2020-6063cb0e682ac3ead1836144
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on March 31, 2021, 08:17:20 PM
You keep repeating the same mistake.

You stubbornly do not want to separate the flies from the cutlets and try to either eat it all together, or, conversely, throw everything into the trash can.

Is there an epidemic or is there no epidemic?   The epidemic, without a doubt, is, as there is an almost annual epidemic of the already habitual "seasonal" flu.

Is this epidemic as terrible as many politicians are trying to portray for political purposes?    Apparently not. The death rate from Covid-19 does not exceed the death rate from the "seasonal" flu, and the rate of mutation of the Covid-19 virus is significantly lower than the rate of mutation of the flu virus.

Is the "lethality" of Covid-19 or Chinese disease higher than that of common flu (excluding the 1918 pandemic)?    No, not higher, but not lower either. The lethality of Covid-19 does not exceed the lethality of the Spanish flu under normal conditions.

Is Covid-19 More Contagious Than Flu?    Yes, it is more infectious, since the latent part of the disease, precisely when there is a possibility of this wide spread, is slightly 5 times higher than the infectiousness of the influenza.

Does wearing masks help prevent infection?   I do not know. But many doctors are already paying attention to the fact that due to wearing masks, people develop fungal diseases of the oral cavity and nose, which was previously extremely rare.

Is there a need for all kinds of isolation and self-isolation?   Of course, a person who has locked himself in an inaccessible place will not get sick now. But during the time of his isolation from other people, his immunity will weaken so much that upon termination of isolation this person will immediately fall ill with dozens of different viral and bacteriological diseases to which he was previously immune.

Are government actions dangerous for us? Of course they are. These actions have political goals, not medical ones.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2021, 04:12:32 AM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on March 31, 2021, 08:17:20 PM
You keep repeating the same mistake.

You stubbornly do not want to separate the flies from the cutlets and try to either eat it all together, or, conversely, throw everything into the trash can.

Is there an epidemic or is there no epidemic?   The epidemic, without a doubt, is, as there is an almost annual epidemic of the already habitual "seasonal" flu.

Is this epidemic as terrible as many politicians are trying to portray for political purposes?    Apparently not. The death rate from Covid-19 does not exceed the death rate from the "seasonal" flu, and the rate of mutation of the Covid-19 virus is significantly lower than the rate of mutation of the flu virus.

Is the "lethality" of Covid-19 or Chinese disease higher than that of common flu (excluding the 1918 pandemic)?    No, not higher, but not lower either. The lethality of Covid-19 does not exceed the lethality of the Spanish flu under normal conditions.

Is Covid-19 More Contagious Than Flu?    Yes, it is more infectious, since the latent part of the disease, precisely when there is a possibility of this wide spread, is slightly 5 times higher than the infectiousness of the influenza.

Does wearing masks help prevent infection?   I do not know. But many doctors are already paying attention to the fact that due to wearing masks, people develop fungal diseases of the oral cavity and nose, which was previously extremely rare.

Is there a need for all kinds of isolation and self-isolation?   Of course, a person who has locked himself in an inaccessible place will not get sick now. But during the time of his isolation from other people, his immunity will weaken so much that upon termination of isolation this person will immediately fall ill with dozens of different viral and bacteriological diseases to which he was previously immune.

Are government actions dangerous for us? Of course they are. These actions have political goals, not medical ones.
It amounts to a really nasty cold.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on April 01, 2021, 04:53:12 AM
We get our second vaccine tomorrow, but going forward we'll still wear masks and follow basic guidelines. Neither my wife or I have had the flu or flu shot, this time the easily spread Covid changed our minds. Book below 'death statistics' is worth your time. Check it out. Covers many of the viruses etc that pop up in the news and are usually resolved one way or another. Remember mad cow or toxic shock?

'Coronavirus vs. Flu Deaths'

COVID-19: There have been approximately 2,805,972 deaths reported worldwide. In the U.S, 550,998 people have died of COVID-19 between January 2020 and March 31, 2021.*

Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu


"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions." quote from book below

'Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs'  Michael T. Osterholm, Mark Olshaker

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 01, 2021, 04:55:59 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 01, 2021, 04:12:32 AM
It amounts to a really nasty cold.

For SOME. For others, they may not even know they have it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2021, 07:23:03 AM
Quote from: RV on April 01, 2021, 04:55:59 AM
For SOME. For others, they may not even know they have it.
yEP, fAUCI PROCLAIMED EVEN THOUGH YOU TEST NEGATIVE, FEEL FINE, NO SYMPTOMS, YOU COULD BE A ccp FLU SPREADER AND MUST WEAR A MASK.


dAMN CAPS LOCK KEY. :glare:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 01, 2021, 07:25:55 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/404/840/original/63299e1a21b98003.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 01, 2021, 08:13:21 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 01, 2021, 07:25:55 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/404/840/original/63299e1a21b98003.png)

I agree, it is VERY suspicious!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on April 01, 2021, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: RV on April 01, 2021, 08:13:21 AM
I agree, it is VERY suspicious!

Anything we don't understand looks suspicious to us. When the first vaccinations against Smallpox were introduced in Russia in the 18th century, there were not less than 2 popular riots against and hundreds or thousands of people died. Empress Catherine II had to be publicly vaccinated to force people to follow her experience.

Unfortunately, the unfortunate, feeble-minded old man who now lives in the White House is not as smart as Catherine.

Yes, the vaccine came out very quickly. But don't forget how much money President Trump spent on researching the problem and making vaccines.

In addition, most of anti "the 2019 Chinese flu" vaccines were practically developed earlier, when planet Earth was threatened by another strain of the Coronavirus - Swine Flu 10-12 years earlier.

Yes, there are not vaccines for all diseases. Moreover, in the future, not all diseases will be cured, and some of the current drugs have already become or are becoming useless. Antibiotics, for example, are no longer even being developed. The bacteria that cause diseases that have been treated with antibiotics have developed resistance to many of them.

Fleming himself, who discovered antibiotics, warned about this in his Nobel lecture.

In nature, there are thousands of types of diseases, united under the general name Cancer. One hundred and fifty of them strike a human. I don't think any vaccine has overcome all of them.

But, before, people died from many types of cancer very quickly, and now they live with it or after it for decades.

It's the same with AIDS. Now drugs have been created for which the viral load of patients is 0 (!), And, as President Trump promised us, doctors will soon completely cope with this disease, just as there is no more Black Pox, Fieldomeliolitis in nature, Halera and the Bubonic Plague are very rare. Diseases that carried away up to 3/4 of the population of many countries in the Middle Ages.

Well, and what is very important, the "normal" influenza virus is much smaller in size than the coronavirus and mutates ten times faster than the Chinese disease virus.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 01, 2021, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on April 01, 2021, 09:08:37 AM
Anything we don't understand looks suspicious to us. When the first vaccinations against Smallpox were introduced in Russia in the 18th century, there were not less than 2 popular riots against and hundreds or thousands of people died. Empress Catherine II had to be publicly vaccinated to force people to follow her experience.

Unfortunately, the unfortunate, feeble-minded old man who now lives in the White House is not as smart as Catherine.

Yes, the vaccine came out very quickly. But don't forget how much money President Trump spent on researching the problem and making vaccines.

In addition, most of anti "the 2019 Chinese flu" vaccines were practically developed earlier, when planet Earth was threatened by another strain of the Coronavirus - Swine Flu 10-12 years earlier.

Yes, there are not vaccines for all diseases. Moreover, in the future, not all diseases will be cured, and some of the current drugs have already become or are becoming useless. Antibiotics, for example, are no longer even being developed. The bacteria that cause diseases that have been treated with antibiotics have developed resistance to many of them.

Fleming himself, who discovered antibiotics, warned about this in his Nobel lecture.

In nature, there are thousands of types of diseases, united under the general name Cancer. One hundred and fifty of them strike a human. I don't think any vaccine has overcome all of them.

But, before, people died from many types of cancer very quickly, and now they live with it or after it for decades.

It's the same with AIDS. Now drugs have been created for which the viral load of patients is 0 (!), And, as President Trump promised us, doctors will soon completely cope with this disease, just as there is no more Black Pox, Fieldomeliolitis in nature, Halera and the Bubonic Plague are very rare. Diseases that carried away up to 3/4 of the population of many countries in the Middle Ages.

Well, and what is very important, the "normal" influenza virus is much smaller in size than the coronavirus and mutates ten times faster than the Chinese disease virus.

Right, nothing to see here folks. It's all a "conspiracy". Heaven forbid that anyone should even think that there is something afoot. Just because the media has lied in the past doesn't mean they are lying now, right? The Wuhan virus IS deadly, right? Why the inflated numbers and reward for doctors to lie about it is just, imagination, right? Just because someone is hit by a bus, they COULD have died from the virus, right? And of course the "vaccination" wink, wink only alters the DNA to build up the immunity, right? Why look at all the folks who have taken the "vaccine" with no side affects, right? WELL YOU ARE WELCOME TO TAKE MY DOSE SINCE IT'S SO "SAFE"!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on April 02, 2021, 04:27:51 PM
QuoteWELL YOU ARE WELCOME TO TAKE MY DOSE SINCE IT'S SO "SAFE"!

"Life is a dangerous thing. They die from it."  (c)

Assholes like you were called "ignoramuses" in the old days. And now you are just a moron. :mad:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 02, 2021, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on April 02, 2021, 04:27:51 PM
"Life is a dangerous thing. They die from it."  (c)

Assholes like you were called "ignoramuses" in the old days. And now you are just a moron. :mad:
This guy has completely run out of something to contribute to any meaningful conversation - why bother?
(oops, that was meant for the Moderators - I guess you already knew that, name calling and insulting is the sign of a lost argument, empty headed Socialism or effects of RNA vaccination... maybe, did you get your shot?)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 02, 2021, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on April 01, 2021, 09:08:37 AM
Anything we don't understand looks suspicious to us. When the first vaccinations against Smallpox were introduced in Russia in the 18th century, there were not less than 2 popular riots against and hundreds or thousands of people died. Empress Catherine II had to be publicly vaccinated to force people to follow her experience.

Unfortunately, the unfortunate, feeble-minded old man who now lives in the White House is not as smart as Catherine.

Yes, the vaccine came out very quickly. But don't forget how much money President Trump spent on researching the problem and making vaccines.

In addition, most of anti "the 2019 Chinese flu" vaccines were practically developed earlier, when planet Earth was threatened by another strain of the Coronavirus - Swine Flu 10-12 years earlier.

Yes, there are not vaccines for all diseases. Moreover, in the future, not all diseases will be cured, and some of the current drugs have already become or are becoming useless. Antibiotics, for example, are no longer even being developed. The bacteria that cause diseases that have been treated with antibiotics have developed resistance to many of them.

Fleming himself, who discovered antibiotics, warned about this in his Nobel lecture.

In nature, there are thousands of types of diseases, united under the general name Cancer. One hundred and fifty of them strike a human. I don't think any vaccine has overcome all of them.

But, before, people died from many types of cancer very quickly, and now they live with it or after it for decades.

It's the same with AIDS. Now drugs have been created for which the viral load of patients is 0 (!), And, as President Trump promised us, doctors will soon completely cope with this disease, just as there is no more Black Pox, Fieldomeliolitis in nature, Halera and the Bubonic Plague are very rare. Diseases that carried away up to 3/4 of the population of many countries in the Middle Ages.

Well, and what is very important, the "normal" influenza virus is much smaller in size than the coronavirus and mutates ten times faster than the Chinese disease virus.
What make it suspicious? The fact that anyone who takes it is a human lab rat, it is an untested modification of your most basic makeup as a human.
Title: DeSantis on WUFLU Passports
Post by: Hoofer on April 03, 2021, 04:58:16 AM
Someone's got it right, Vaccine Passports violate the US Constitution!

https://thepostmillennial.com/vaccine-passports-banned-by-florida-governor/

"Florida governor Ron DeSantis has issued an executive order banning the production, use, and requirement of vaccine passports and other similar documents throughout the state."

"DeSantis made it clear to people that "requirements in this order do not otherwise restrict businesses from instituting COVID-19 screening protocols in accordance with state and federal law to protect public health, and nothing herein shall be construed to interfere with individuals' rights to access their own personal health information under federal law."


Therein lies the problem, HIPPA.  Being forced to disclose your PRIVACY (health) for anything, is a violation of Federal Law.  DeSantis is upholding the Federal Law.  :biggrin:

.. probably getting some potential Presidential attention too..
Title: Re: DeSantis on WUFLU Passports
Post by: Possum on April 03, 2021, 05:00:15 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 03, 2021, 04:58:16 AM
Someone's got it right, Vaccine Passports violate the US Constitution!

https://thepostmillennial.com/vaccine-passports-banned-by-florida-governor/

"Florida governor Ron DeSantis has issued an executive order banning the production, use, and requirement of vaccine passports and other similar documents throughout the state."

"DeSantis made it clear to people that "requirements in this order do not otherwise restrict businesses from instituting COVID-19 screening protocols in accordance with state and federal law to protect public health, and nothing herein shall be construed to interfere with individuals' rights to access their own personal health information under federal law."


Therein lies the problem, HIPPA.  Being forced to disclose your PRIVACY (health) for anything, is a violation of Federal Law.  DeSantis is upholding the Federal Law.  :biggrin:

.. probably getting some potential Presidential attention too..
I'm really, really, starting to like this guy. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 03, 2021, 12:43:26 PM
States that force people to wear face  diapers  are the states with the  highest  cases

(https://scontent.forf1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/167519247_10158301823693198_1612564599056194919_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=n_-gKL-Jr18AX-Gf4L7&_nc_ht=scontent.forf1-4.fna&oh=d703c9b6fbc3000cc41ba3e6f4ac41d7&oe=608F5B9D)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 03, 2021, 05:22:45 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 03, 2021, 12:43:26 PM
States that force people to wear face  diapers  are the states with the  highest  cases

(https://scontent.forf1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/167519247_10158301823693198_1612564599056194919_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=n_-gKL-Jr18AX-Gf4L7&_nc_ht=scontent.forf1-4.fna&oh=d703c9b6fbc3000cc41ba3e6f4ac41d7&oe=608F5B9D)

The states with the highest case rates are PLANNED. The "mandates" are deliberate.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 03, 2021, 05:59:03 PM
Quote from: RV on April 03, 2021, 05:22:45 PM
The states with the highest case rates are PLANNED. The "mandates" are deliberate.
YES!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 03, 2021, 07:24:19 PM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on April 02, 2021, 04:27:51 PM
"Life is a dangerous thing. They die from it."  (c)

Assholes like you were called "ignoramuses" in the old days. And now you are just a moron. :mad:

Since in your opinion, I am such a "moron", you can laugh when I get the virus and hopefully die. As I said before, you are welcome to have my (completely safe), dose.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 04, 2021, 04:16:18 AM
Science
Michigan cases up 114%
Connecticut cases up 67%
Vermont cases up 60%
New York cases up 57%
Neanderthals
Texas cases down 15%
Mississippi cases down 49%
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 04, 2021, 04:37:25 AM
This Pastor has Balls!!! :thumbsup:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/639/678/original/02665640da4b3015.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 04, 2021, 06:31:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2021, 04:37:25 AM
This Pastor has Balls!!! :thumbsup:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/639/678/original/02665640da4b3015.mp4

A true  hero
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 04, 2021, 10:36:33 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 04, 2021, 06:31:10 AM
A true  hero

ABSOLUTELY! That is what it is going to take to stand up to the tyranny, infringements and Nazi tactics that have pervaded our society today.
Title: Print your own COVID-19 Vaccination card!
Post by: Hoofer on April 04, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Provided as a public service, a "get out of WuHan-Flu jail free, card".
https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf (https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf)

Or from TN
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/Shot_Card_Spanish.pdf (https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/Shot_Card_Spanish.pdf)

I'd use card stock, or something a little thicker than copy paper.
These things can get LOST easily, and verification is obviously absent without a photo id requirement - who's gonna know if it's really *you* or someone else?

Remember, the CDC has sent out mixed messages thru the MSM - getting a Covid-19 shot does not guarantee you safety, health or prevent you from being a "super spreader".  The only sure thing about a Covid-19 shot, we know for sure... you're the compliant type. ...

This free advice is provided, in case you LOST your card ... of course!  We wouldn't want anyone to just print off a hundred and hand them out on the street, now, that would be wrong... I think... but so would any business requiring you provide private, protected by HIPPA laws, your health records.
Title: Re: Print your own COVID-19 Vaccination card!
Post by: RV on April 04, 2021, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 04, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Provided as a public service, a "get out of WuHan-Flu jail free, card".
https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf (https://dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf)

Or from TN
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/Shot_Card_Spanish.pdf (https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/Shot_Card_Spanish.pdf)

I'd use card stock, or something a little thicker than copy paper.
These things can get LOST easily, and verification is obviously absent without a photo id requirement - who's gonna know if it's really *you* or someone else?

Remember, the CDC has sent out mixed messages thru the MSM - getting a Covid-19 shot does not guarantee you safety, health or prevent you from being a "super spreader".  The only sure thing about a Covid-19 shot, we know for sure... you're the compliant type. ...

This free advice is provided, in case you LOST your card ... of course! We wouldn't want anyone to just print off a hundred and hand them out on the street, now, that would be wrong... I think... but so would any business requiring you provide private, protected by HIPPA laws, your health records.

Of course it would be wrong... it would be similar to what was done in the Presidential election!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2021, 07:17:21 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on April 05, 2021, 07:43:02 AM
We have our get outta jail card re Covid, but we will still wear masks.  Easter Sunday saw the grandkids and family which was nice. Only the children and one son are not vaccinated.  Only a few in extended family have had virus and thankfully are well today. As Americans we tend to think too often in boxes and forget the world out there. India and Europe are not doing well.

Everyone should read this book on topic published in 2017.  'Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs'  by Michael T. Osterholm, Mark Olshaker

"Covid pandemic peaks in Eastern and Central Europe and ruins Easter"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56588509

"India on Sunday reported more than 100,000 new cases of the coronavirus, a grim measure achieved by only the United States and briefly Brazil, and a sign that the infections in the nation of 1.3 billion could be spinning out of control."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/05/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2021, 08:15:45 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on April 05, 2021, 07:43:02 AM
We have our get outta jail card re Covid, but we will still wear masks. 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 05, 2021, 10:59:28 AM
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/772/284/original/409a1a76e63245a7.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 06, 2021, 05:41:48 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2021, 10:59:28 AM
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/772/284/original/409a1a76e63245a7.mp4

I don't wear a mask, I'm not "woke", I don't fly but, I DO vote!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2021, 06:27:40 AM
Quote from: RV on April 06, 2021, 05:41:48 AM
I don't wear a mask, I'm not "woke", I don't fly but, I DO vote!
Every time a commie tells someone to wear a mask, God gives a conservative his wings. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2021, 06:32:01 AM
Who Knew? Canadians Got a new set of Balls. :thumbup:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/839/733/original/b7ee84b795809690.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 06, 2021, 06:42:37 AM
Quote from: RV on April 06, 2021, 05:41:48 AM
I don't wear a mask, I'm not "woke", I don't fly but, I DO vote!

That reminds me of two questions that I have asked repeatedly and no one has been able to give me legitimate answers. We're told by the "experts" that our immune response to the virus is not the same and not as long lasting as from the "vaccine". My question is, if our body's response to the actual virus is not the same or long lasting as our body's response to the "vaccine", how do they differ and why do they differ?

If the "vaccine" is not sufficient enough that people are still required to wear a "mask" so as not to be a "super spreader", what is the point in taking the "vaccine"?

Of course that leads into other questions such as, if the "virus" is "mutating" and will require another round of "vaccine" when and if it becomes available, what is the point in taking the first "vaccine"? How much tax payer monies are going into the Ad campaigns? Do the health departments have a surplus of tax money that is just sitting there for Ad campaigns? 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2021, 07:01:11 AM
Quote from: RV on April 06, 2021, 06:42:37 AM
That reminds me of two questions that I have asked repeatedly and no one has been able to give me legitimate answers. We're told by the "experts" that our immune response to the virus is not the same and not as long lasting as from the "vaccine". My question is, if our body's response to the actual virus is not the same or long lasting as our body's response to the "vaccine", how do they differ and why do they differ?

If the "vaccine" is not sufficient enough that people are still required to wear a "mask" so as not to be a "super spreader", what is the point in taking the "vaccine"?

Of course that leads into other questions such as, if the "virus" is "mutating" and will require another round of "vaccine" when and if it becomes available, what is the point in taking the first "vaccine"? How much tax payer monies are going into the Ad campaigns? Do the health departments have a surplus of tax money that is just sitting there for Ad campaigns?
Stop that! You know you're not supposed to question the wisdom of Marxist indoctrinated fools. :biggrin:

Thing is, if our immune system worked the first time around, why do you need a shot that is proven to not inoculate you against the commie flu?

Their logic only makes sense if one is stupid, only watches CCP media or pressured by other idiot family members.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 06, 2021, 08:41:30 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 06, 2021, 07:01:11 AM
Stop that! You know you're not supposed to question the wisdom of Marxist indoctrinated fools. :biggrin:

Thing is, if our immune system worked the first time around, why do you need a shot that is proven to not inoculate you against the commie flu?

Their logic only makes sense if one is stupid, only watches CCP media or pressured by other idiot family members.

I believe that there is much more to the story than they are letting out. Their "logic" makes no sense, is unsubstantiated and is preposterous at best.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 06, 2021, 09:11:26 AM
Quote from: RV on April 06, 2021, 08:41:30 AM
I believe that there is much more to the story than they are letting out. Their "logic" makes no sense, is unsubstantiated and is preposterous at best.
Yes, yes there is.
The fact that China seems to be free of the Wuhan flu entirely, yet Marxist media in conjunction with corporations now controlled by the CCP dictating cancel culture, tells us why the DNC tried to steal an election and why these Marxist scum are pushing this shit globally.

This is their hail Mary, if this doesn't work, they know it's over for good. If they can't takeover the US, it's game over for all these commies...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RedGirlinBlueMd on April 06, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
I live in a very blue area and it seems most are getting the vaccine.  I am told continually that I am selfish because I'm risking their health.  If they are vaccinated, aren't they allegedly safe and I am the one at risk?  I just want to be left alone and not nagged to death.  98% survivability is just not an illness that freaks me out.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on April 06, 2021, 11:23:49 AM
Quote from: RedGirlinBlueMd on April 06, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
I live in a very blue area and it seems most are getting the vaccine.  I am told continually that I am selfish because I'm risking their health.  If they are vaccinated, aren't they allegedly safe and I am the one at risk?  I just want to be left alone and not nagged to death.  98% survivability is just not an illness that freaks me out.

Welcome to the forum.

You are so correct. I received the vaccine. I could care less if others choose not to receive it. However, this is a perfect example of the differences between leftists and conservatives.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 06, 2021, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: RedGirlinBlueMd on April 06, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
I live in a very blue area and it seems most are getting the vaccine.  I am told continually that I am selfish because I'm risking their health.  If they are vaccinated, aren't they allegedly safe and I am the one at risk?  I just want to be left alone and not nagged to death.  98% survivability is just not an illness that freaks me out.

You must live for yourself, not for what other "think or feel" for you. You must live your own life.  As supsalemgr said "this is a perfect example of the differences between leftists and conservatives."  As I told each of my kids, after moving out of the house.  You can ask me for advice, but YOU must make the decisions as you will have to live with it not me.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 07, 2021, 05:06:12 AM
The Marxists just killed off the DNC base of, what was left of their base, that is.



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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 07, 2021, 06:10:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2021, 05:06:12 AM
The Marxists just killed off the DNC base of, what was left of their base, that is.

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Oh you won't be alone! Many of us are fed up with the nonsense, the hysteria, the rhetoric and the political power grabs that have been forced upon us by Marxists, Communists and liberals all in the name of "safety". The fact is that no one gets out of life alive, all will die at some point or be raptured.

To claim that a paper mask with many holes will somehow isolate someone from a virus that is several times smaller than the holes that the paper mask has is ridiculous. To claim that a virus which has been proven to be 99% survivable is somehow deadly, is outrageous. To upend society, close businesses, create vast unemployment and tell people to stay home is diabolical, evil and political at best. No, she will not be alone.

I rode by bike with my wife through a park the other day. We saw a multitude of people, including children, playing and enjoying themselves and not one of them were wearing masks. The birds were chirping, the sky was blue and the air was clean and great. There will be a payback, I can't say when, where nor how but, there will be a payback...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 07, 2021, 01:54:35 PM
A new study finds some COVID-19 vaccine skin reactions, including a measles-like rash and shingles, are rare, and thankfully brief, side effects. | USA TODAY

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/covid-toes-moderna-arm-all-body-rash-vaccines-can-cause-skin-reactions-but-aren-t-dangerous-study-says/ar-BB1fnq5t?ocid=DE_20210407_ENUS_coronavirus_5



The U.S. government won't issue so-called vaccine passports, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said, after Texas sought to limit their development because of privacy concerns.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-rejects-us-vaccine-passports-skirting-uproar/ar-BB1fp4zl?ocid=DE_20210407_ENUS_coronavirus_1

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 09, 2021, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: walkstall on April 07, 2021, 01:54:35 PM
A new study finds some COVID-19 vaccine skin reactions, including a measles-like rash and shingles, are rare, and thankfully brief, side effects. | USA TODAY

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/covid-toes-moderna-arm-all-body-rash-vaccines-can-cause-skin-reactions-but-aren-t-dangerous-study-says/ar-BB1fnq5t?ocid=DE_20210407_ENUS_coronavirus_5

The U.S. government won't issue so-called vaccine passports, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said, after Texas sought to limit their development because of privacy concerns.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-rejects-us-vaccine-passports-skirting-uproar/ar-BB1fp4zl?ocid=DE_20210407_ENUS_coronavirus_1

I guess it all depends on how one defines "rare", "brief" and "aren't dangerous". Considering that we haven't had years to ensure that they really are "rare", "brief" and "aren't dangerous". Sometimes people use certain terms to define illnesses on others and different terms when it affects themselves.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 10, 2021, 12:03:16 PM
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Title: NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camp
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2021, 01:02:23 PM
NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, just like the Nazis did in World War II


The Democrat-dominated New York state Senate has passed a bill "allowing" government officials to throw people in concentration camps indefinitely if they are deemed to be a public health threat.

The next phase of the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) plandemic, the legislation reflects what the Nazis did in World War II when they decided that human rights no longer apply during a "crisis."

Should the bill get signed into law by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, even healthy people who are deemed to be "contagious" could be scooped up and thrown in prison camps for the "safety" of the general public.

Assembly Bill A416 "relates to the removal of cases, contacts and carriers of communicable diseases who are potentially dangerous to the public health," the bill reads.

Anyone deemed a "case" or even just a contact of "case" who might be "infected" or possibly a "carrier" of any illness, not just the Chinese virus, would become a target of government officials in New York who would have leeway and discretion to respond as they see fit.

The legislation specifically states that as long as the "opinion of the governor" dictates that a person is a threat, he or she could be removed from the home and placed in government "care" for as long as the governor sees fit.

"Such person or group of persons shall be detained in a medical facility or other appropriate facility or premises designated by the governor or his or her delegee and complying with subdivision five of this section," the bill further reads.

Welcome to the New World Order, brought to you by the Chinese virus
In essence, AB A416 overrides the Constitution and replaces it with a new system of authoritarianism whereby the government, at least in New York, will now have unlimited power to take people from their homes and deprive them of life and liberty on a whim.

All the government would have to do is accuse a person of possibly being infected with a "virus" and that would justify that person's removal from society. Just think of how many political dissidents might be swept up in this scheme and eliminated under the guise of public health.


https://www.medicalextremism.com/2021-04-05-ny-senate-passed-concentration-camp-bill-nazis.html
Title: Re: NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camp
Post by: RV on April 10, 2021, 01:12:55 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2021, 01:02:23 PM
NY Senate just passed a concentration camp bill to forcibly throw people in camps, just like the Nazis did in World War II

The Democrat-dominated New York state Senate has passed a bill "allowing" government officials to throw people in concentration camps indefinitely if they are deemed to be a public health threat.

The next phase of the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) plandemic, the legislation reflects what the Nazis did in World War II when they decided that human rights no longer apply during a "crisis."

Should the bill get signed into law by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, even healthy people who are deemed to be "contagious" could be scooped up and thrown in prison camps for the "safety" of the general public.

Assembly Bill A416 "relates to the removal of cases, contacts and carriers of communicable diseases who are potentially dangerous to the public health," the bill reads.

Anyone deemed a "case" or even just a contact of "case" who might be "infected" or possibly a "carrier" of any illness, not just the Chinese virus, would become a target of government officials in New York who would have leeway and discretion to respond as they see fit.

The legislation specifically states that as long as the "opinion of the governor" dictates that a person is a threat, he or she could be removed from the home and placed in government "care" for as long as the governor sees fit.

"Such person or group of persons shall be detained in a medical facility or other appropriate facility or premises designated by the governor or his or her delegee and complying with subdivision five of this section," the bill further reads.

Welcome to the New World Order, brought to you by the Chinese virus
In essence, AB A416 overrides the Constitution and replaces it with a new system of authoritarianism whereby the government, at least in New York, will now have unlimited power to take people from their homes and deprive them of life and liberty on a whim.

All the government would have to do is accuse a person of possibly being infected with a "virus" and that would justify that person's removal from society. Just think of how many political dissidents might be swept up in this scheme and eliminated under the guise of public health.


https://www.medicalextremism.com/2021-04-05-ny-senate-passed-concentration-camp-bill-nazis.html

Certainly, ANYONE who supported President Trump, relates information about the election fraud, is against the left wingers, supports the Constitution, supports freedom or espouses truth has a target on their back in this legislation.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2021, 01:41:38 PM
Dont republicans control at  least part  of the  NY legislature?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on April 10, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
Im wrong, they dont. This  is  how genocide begins. The  left are nazis. The  nazis started by murdering the  mentally  ill and deformed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 11, 2021, 05:05:59 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 10, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
Im wrong, they dont. This  is  how genocide begins. The  left are nazis. The  nazis started by murdering the  mentally  ill and deformed.

This IS how genocide begins. Like Nazi Germany, America is so complacent and corrupt that nothing will be done. The Nazi's slaughtered over six million Jews. I wonder how many will be slaughtered here in America?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 11, 2021, 05:30:21 AM
Quote from: RV on April 11, 2021, 05:05:59 AM
This IS how genocide begins. Like Nazi Germany, America is so complacent and corrupt that nothing will be done. The Nazi's slaughtered over six million Jews. I wonder how many will be slaughtered here in America?

I would say they have a good start in the rest homes.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2021, 06:25:30 AM
Quote from: walkstall on April 11, 2021, 05:30:21 AM
I would say they have a good start in the rest homes.
They've got the beginning and the end covered...

Planned parenthood was the tool used to create a calloused society. If they can convince half the people that murder is the right of a woman, the rest should be a breeze.

"Eh, they're old, they contribute nothing"...

The middle will be a little bit harder...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 11, 2021, 06:32:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 11, 2021, 06:25:30 AM
They've got the beginning and the end covered...

Planned parenthood was the tool used to create a calloused society. If they can convince half the people that murder is the right of a woman, the rest should be a breeze.

"Eh, they're old, they contribute nothing"...

The middle will be a little bit harder...

I remember a teacher talking like that - in the '60s... and stupid me, agreeing.

That's what happens when Grandparents have no part in raising kids, the kids never seem to make the connection to the elderly. 

Even worse, IMO, when the parents mock their parents in front of or to the kids, instead of honor them.
Wifey's parents are 20yrs older than I, still want their independence, our place is big enough for them, nice climate, interesting farm life, I sure don't want them to check into "assisted living"...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 11, 2021, 07:05:44 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 11, 2021, 06:32:10 AM
I remember a teacher talking like that - in the '60s... and stupid me, agreeing.

That's what happens when Grandparents have no part in raising kids, the kids never seem to make the connection to the elderly. 

Even worse, IMO, when the parents mock their parents in front of or to the kids, instead of honor them.
Wifey's parents are 20yrs older than I, still want their independence, our place is big enough for them, nice climate, interesting farm life, I sure don't want them to check into "assisted living"...
Hindsight being 20/20, it's easy to look back at how commies shaped our culture. Remember "Don't trust anyone over 30"?
Well, that eliminates the wisdom of the elder, they broke up the nuclear family unit by starting with the black family, made it easy for govt to usurp the responsibility of the family to care for their elders.
First they made it cheap to care for them, then made it nearly impossible to do ourselves, by usurping the women's movement and convincing women that working outside the house was freeing.

Out of the frypan into the fire of corporate slavery. Yes, we are an ignorant lot when we're young. Now the woman doesn't need a man to buy her bobbles, she is just another corporate slave.

Once the mother was out of the house, the rest of the pieces fell into place as they increased the divide of the sexes. Just look at Hollywood and their need to create super tough and independent women.
Now they're attacking the nucleus of American culture, the white male.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on April 11, 2021, 10:18:50 PM
The way to go! :thumbup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttJb9UERts
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Colin Norris on April 12, 2021, 04:17:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 21, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
Get ready, the WuFlu is about to knock the Dims Impeachment off the front page. Seriously, this thing is spreading fast.

It's a terrible situation. So many people went unprotected for so long hoping God would protect them. They gathered at rallies for trump and spread it further unmasked of course suggesting it was  a hoax as hundreds of thousands died.

There is little doubt now that if trump had acted earlier in respect to lockdown etc, hundreds of thousands could have been saved.  But no.  He said it would go away virtually overnight.  Disappear suddenly. What a complete fool.  Little wonder they threw the idiot.
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Coronavirus patients have been identified in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen, as well as Taiwan, Japan, Thailand and South Korea. And now, the US
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 12, 2021, 04:30:37 AM
Quote from: Colin Norris on April 12, 2021, 04:17:15 AM


Learn how to use the quote function!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 12, 2021, 06:07:49 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 12, 2021, 09:09:09 AM
When a Libertarian really meant something, like being a Liberal meant you wanted LIBERTY instead of slavery to the Swamp of Government.

I didn't hear the phrase, "The Right to be Left ALONE" - ever, while living in Wisconsin, but hear/heard it often when we moved to So. Virginia, and obviously adopted it as our motto.

Solar, you're dead on, It's more than control, it's attempting to deny our human nature, by carrot & stick (welfare), or by force (must wear a mask) - now the Government is pressuring Businesses to enforcement!  "Mask & screening required to enter this building/business" signs everywhere.  What's the next "RULE" the Government will pass down to Businesses (without passing an actual LAW)?

This reminds me of that old movie, "Rollerball" where corporations rule/run a Communist world, there is no real Government, all rules are created & enforced via corporate boards.   You get work assignments, housing is provided, nobody has any real independence, meh... you're no longer producing - "retire 'em".   The futility of the individual effort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFSCzTCNW1M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFSCzTCNW1M)

There is no actual LAW, requiring masks, distancing, vaccination - yet, people are doing it, because they want to walk into a store / business, without being hassled, sure, yeah, and it's businesses taking the lead.  I heard of one company, a conference call, "We will continue to be wearing MASKS, even if the state lifts the mask mandate."  No more legislature, it's new laws by "mandate" - I rest my case, this is not America anymore.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2021, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 12, 2021, 09:09:09 AM
When a Libertarian really meant something, like being a Liberal meant you wanted LIBERTY instead of slavery to the Swamp of Government.

I didn't hear the phrase, "The Right to be Left ALONE" - ever, while living in Wisconsin, but hear/heard it often when we moved to So. Virginia, and obviously adopted it as our motto.

Solar, you're dead on, It's more than control, it's attempting to deny our human nature, by carrot & stick (welfare), or by force (must wear a mask) - now the Government is pressuring Businesses to enforcement!  "Mask & screening required to enter this building/business" signs everywhere.  What's the next "RULE" the Government will pass down to Businesses (without passing an actual LAW)?

This reminds me of that old movie, "Rollerball" where corporations rule/run a Communist world, there is no real Government, all rules are created & enforced via corporate boards.   You get work assignments, housing is provided, nobody has any real independence, meh... you're no longer producing - "retire 'em".   The futility of the individual effort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFSCzTCNW1M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFSCzTCNW1M)

There is no actual LAW, requiring masks, distancing, vaccination - yet, people are doing it, because they want to walk into a store / business, without being hassled, sure, yeah, and it's businesses taking the lead.  I heard of one company, a conference call, "We will continue to be wearing MASKS, even if the state lifts the mask mandate."  No more legislature, it's new laws by "mandate" - I rest my case, this is not America anymore.
True! Every time it's challenged in court, we win. It's beyond me why people are so willing to give up freedom for a cup of coffee.
Fuckem, if they refuse to accommodate me, the paying customer, I'll take my business elsewhere.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 14, 2021, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 11, 2021, 06:32:10 AM
I remember a teacher talking like that - in the '60s... and stupid me, agreeing.

That's what happens when Grandparents have no part in raising kids, the kids never seem to make the connection to the elderly. 

Even worse, IMO, when the parents mock their parents in front of or to the kids, instead of honor them.
Wifey's parents are 20yrs older than I, still want their independence, our place is big enough for them, nice climate, interesting farm life, I sure don't want them to check into "assisted living"...

My oldest has already told me they would provide a "tiny" house for me on the back of their property.  I explained that they will have to pry me off our mountain...   Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 14, 2021, 07:21:27 PM
Just a lot of interesting information and links.  Arguments we can use.  Toy

18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY

The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products, are vaccine makers.

First established in 1986 with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and reinforced by the PREP Act, vaccine makers cannot be sued, even if they are shown to be negligent.

The covid-vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause.

If a company is not willing to stand behind their product as safe, especially one they rushed to market and skipped animal trials on, I am not willing to take a chance on their product.

No liability. No trust.


https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 14, 2021, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on April 14, 2021, 07:21:27 PM
Just a lot of interesting information and links.  Arguments we can use.  Toy

18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY

The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products, are vaccine makers.

First established in 1986 with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and reinforced by the PREP Act, vaccine makers cannot be sued, even if they are shown to be negligent.

The covid-vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause.

If a company is not willing to stand behind their product as safe, especially one they rushed to market and skipped animal trials on, I am not willing to take a chance on their product.

No liability. No trust.


https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

This part just blew me away....

#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH

According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) - read page 6 at the link above.

While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions. 

"VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021."

And those numbers don't include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell's Palsy.

If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.

Bet you didn't see that on the news.

That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don't hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.

If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check this out, or check this out.


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 14, 2021, 07:52:31 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on April 14, 2021, 07:41:13 PM
This part just blew me away....

#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH

According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) - read page 6 at the link above.

While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions. 

"VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021."

And those numbers don't include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell's Palsy.

If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.

Bet you didn't see that on the news.

That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don't hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.

If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check this out, or check this out.


I've seen so many ads, some of them even cartoons aimed at children, which are meant to force people to get the vaccine. I have to ask myself why they would put so much money into trying to force everyone into the vaccine pool. Some of the ads go so far as to claim that society will NEVER be able to get back to "normal" unless or until everyone receives the vaccination. Once again I ask myself, why would they spend so much time, energy and money trying to force people to get vaccinated? It is VERY suspicious!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 15, 2021, 08:55:10 AM
Quote from: RV on April 14, 2021, 07:52:31 PM
I've seen so many ads, some of them even cartoons aimed at children, which are meant to force people to get the vaccine. I have to ask myself why they would put so much money into trying to force everyone into the vaccine pool. Some of the ads go so far as to claim that society will NEVER be able to get back to "normal" unless or until everyone receives the vaccination. Once again I ask myself, why would they spend so much time, energy and money trying to force people to get vaccinated? It is VERY suspicious!

My favorites are the radio ads using the older, softer, southern male voice, you know the good ol' boy who would never steer you wrong.

Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2021, 09:23:46 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/071/644/797/original/cbd3b29b6810f6e9.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 15, 2021, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on April 15, 2021, 08:55:10 AM
My favorites are the radio ads using the older, softer, southern male voice, you know the good ol' boy who would never steer you wrong.

Toy

I haven't heard that particular commercial YET but, I'm sure that I will. All of the publicity about the "vaccine" makes me less likely to get it (as if I needed any more reason), more suspicious of their motives and more concerned about the tax money they are spending.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 15, 2021, 10:30:34 AM
We are getting Emails at work, company based, pressuring us to be vaccinated.  I will not.  I have a good excuse not to, but it might not matter.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on April 15, 2021, 10:34:38 AM
Quote from: RV on April 15, 2021, 10:18:19 AM
I haven't heard that particular commercial YET but, I'm sure that I will. All of the publicity about the "vaccine" makes me less likely to get it (as if I needed any more reason), more suspicious of their motives and more concerned about the tax money they are spending.

What everyone needs to understand is your insurance has to pay for the shot(s) or you have to if your insurance will not.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 15, 2021, 11:52:30 AM
just got my 2nd email from work, urging us to sign up for Covid-19 shots.  they are going to be relentless, I fear.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 15, 2021, 01:58:55 PM
Quote from: walkstall on April 15, 2021, 10:34:38 AM
What everyone needs to understand is your insurance has to pay for the shot(s) or you have to if your insurance will not.

Even if the "vaccine" cost $5,000, the cost of health, accountability, etc. is MUCH more. A person's health may be compromised years after the injection and they have made certain that nothing can be done, proven or legally actionable.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 15, 2021, 02:17:01 PM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/5800-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-contracted-covid-19-74-dead-cdc_3777637.html/amp

QuoteOf the 5,800 fully vaccinated people who were confirmed as so-called breakthrough cases, nearly 400 required treatment at hospitals and 74 died.

So on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being success, does this rate a 1?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 15, 2021, 02:27:28 PM
And if the fact that the vaccines are not working is not enough, https://nationalfile.com/pfizer-ceo-claims-vaccine-booster-shots-annual-vaccination-may-be-necessary/

So who all is in line for the annual vaccine shot?

We being had folks.

Have not seen the official answer, but why have the homeless camps not been wiped out by the virus which as we know is so contagious we have to kill the best economy the U.S. has ever had, subject ourselves to losing our constitutional rights, and bending over to a government that can not stand us. From a drive in Austin the other week to see the grand-kids, I can tell you the homeless camps are thriving, growing, doing well, and look very healthy. So healthy they have never worn masks, socially distanced themselves, etc.



Yep, we being had.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2021, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: Possum on April 15, 2021, 02:27:28 PM
And if the fact that the vaccines are not working is not enough, https://nationalfile.com/pfizer-ceo-claims-vaccine-booster-shots-annual-vaccination-may-be-necessary/

So who all is in line for the annual vaccine shot?

We being had folks.

Have not seen the official answer, but why have the homeless camps not been wiped out by the virus which as we know is so contagious we have to kill the best economy the U.S. has ever had, subject ourselves to losing our constitutional rights, and bending over to a government that can not stand us. From a drive in Austin the other week to see the grand-kids, I can tell you the homeless camps are thriving, growing, doing well, and look very healthy. So healthy they have never worn masks, socially distanced themselves, etc.



Yep, we being had.
Nailed it!!!!
This is why I brought this thread back to the top, so we could see the progression of the Marxist fraud, now that people can see for themselves just how well planned, and how it took the entire media to lie for them.
Many are beginning to question the lies.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 15, 2021, 03:20:33 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KQWi3tG66WU/YHYJlQ_T2EI/AAAAAAAAuO8/a5ATYMp4ficpISQ1B9r7GkX4pqWSLCeXACLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h640/16.jpeg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, annual booster vaccine
Post by: Hoofer on April 15, 2021, 04:06:16 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html

Pfizer CEO says third Covid vaccine dose likely needed within 12 months

""A likely scenario is that there will be likely a need for a third dose, somewhere between six and 12 months and then from there, there will be an annual revaccination, but all of that needs to be confirmed. And again, the variants will play a key role," he told CNBC's Bertha Coombs during an event with CVS Health.

"It is extremely important to suppress the pool of people that can be susceptible to the virus," Bourla said."


Sounds kinda fishy to me...!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2021, 04:19:54 PM
Yet not one lab has isolated the so called virus.
It's nothing more than a flu, another covid variant and even though we have flu shots every year, they are based on the flu halfway around the globe, at least 6 months old by the time the flu actually arrives, meaning, the bug has already morphed, making the flu shot virtually meaningless.

Thing is, this is not the approach being taken, this is a highly experimental ploy being tested on humans first, they never even tested it on animals first.
Does anyone really trust the CDC, a business disguised as a govt entity?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 15, 2021, 04:40:32 PM
IMO - since the vaccine is not really a vaccine, but a DNA or RNA altering device, making it a "plug in receptacle" for future ... ahem... drugs, viruses, vaccines.... (I've read this), what's the reason for it again?

Annual booster - to make sure the RNA / DNA receptacle is still working properly..?  Slip a few doses of something toxic in there, to confirm it's still an effective receptor?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2021, 04:45:31 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 15, 2021, 04:40:32 PM
IMO - since the vaccine is not really a vaccine, but a DNA or RNA altering device, making it a "plug in receptacle" for future ... ahem... drugs, viruses, vaccines.... (I've read this), what's the reason for it again?

Annual booster - to make sure the RNA / DNA receptacle is still working properly..?  Slip a few doses of something toxic in there, to confirm it's still an effective receptor?
Time activated, when you hit 62, retirement age, they flick a switch. Won't have to pay SSI.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 15, 2021, 05:44:15 PM
Quote from: Possum on April 15, 2021, 02:17:01 PM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/5800-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-contracted-covid-19-74-dead-cdc_3777637.html/amp

So on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being success, does this rate a 1?

Considering how many are scared out of their wits, I'd say that it was a 10.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 15, 2021, 05:47:48 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 15, 2021, 04:40:32 PM
IMO - since the vaccine is not really a vaccine, but a DNA or RNA altering device, making it a "plug in receptacle" for future ... ahem... drugs, viruses, vaccines.... (I've read this), what's the reason for it again?

Annual booster - to make sure the RNA / DNA receptacle is still working properly..?  Slip a few doses of something toxic in there, to confirm it's still an effective receptor?

I'm not sure what the Democrats angle is but, the fact that they are pushing it 24/7 tells me that there is an ulterior motive. It also tells me that they REALLY want the entire population to roll up their sleeve and receive it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 17, 2021, 03:04:15 PM
https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/04/17/stanford-study-quietly-published-at-nih-gov-proves-face-masks-are-absolutely-worthless-against-covid/



QuoteAccording to the current knowledge, the virus SARS-CoV-2 has a diameter of 60 nm to 140 nm [nanometers (billionth of a meter)] [16], [17], while medical and non-medical facemasks' thread diameter ranges from 55 µm to 440 µm [micrometers (one millionth of a meter), which is more than 1000 times larger [25]. Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter (the virus is 1000 times smaller), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask
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There really isn't anything to add to this, we have all said it before. We have been had.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2021, 07:45:32 PM
Watch this...


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/071/859/309/original/8f1eb6d884941708.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 18, 2021, 05:29:43 AM
Quote from: Possum on April 17, 2021, 03:04:15 PM
https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/04/17/stanford-study-quietly-published-at-nih-gov-proves-face-masks-are-absolutely-worthless-against-covid/

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There really isn't anything to add to this, we have all said it before. We have been had.

Okay so, I'll ask the question and play "stupid"... If the virus is fictitious and the CDC does not have any samples, how can one be certain of it's size? I mean, I'm sure that it's quite a bit smaller than any mask however, if there are no samples, it's a guess. So my question is that if they have developed a "vaccine" for this supposed "deadly virus" that "so many" have supposedly died from, there should be plenty of samples from it. Am I thinking incorrectly here?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 18, 2021, 05:45:57 AM
Quote from: RV on April 18, 2021, 05:29:43 AM
Okay so, I'll ask the question and play "stupid"... If the virus is fictitious and the CDC does not have any samples, how can one be certain of it's size? I mean, I'm sure that it's quite a bit smaller than any mask however, if there are no samples, it's a guess. So my question is that if they have developed a "vaccine" for this supposed "deadly virus" that "so many" have supposedly died from, there should be plenty of samples from it. Am I thinking incorrectly here?
I remember the article you are referring to but can not find it, so this comes from old memory which may not even be close to actual fact, but, I believe they could not find the virus in 1500 samples that had tested "positive". I can not remember if the samples came from a few sources or were random from across the nation. What I gathered from the article was it was akin to publishing a list of 1500 people who received speeding tickets and finding out none of them owned a car.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2021, 06:19:58 AM
Reuters tries to debunk the Youtube video (which was taken down).

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-sequencing-idUSKBN29R2NR (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-sequencing-idUSKBN29R2NR)

I read the same article, and ... can't find it either!

"The HSE told Reuters: "1500 PCR tests were not sequenced in October. Despite a significant amount of testing, no influenza has been detected to date in Ireland in the current winter season" and "there is no evidence of cross-reactivity with the influenza test."

Alexandru Niculae emailed Reuters on behalf of the ECDC to say that there could be "occasions of misclassification, mainly due to laboratory or manufacturing errors," but that one of their experts in applied molecular epidemiology described this as "extremely unlikely."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
OK.. now we KNOW this is a load of BS.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2021, 06:48:11 AM
When your research doesn't fit the narrative, you're suppose to shut up or resign...?
But... I think she might have nailed it!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ucd-professor-asked-to-resign-from-eu-committee-over-covid-19-claims-1.4277698 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ucd-professor-asked-to-resign-from-eu-committee-over-covid-19-claims-1.4277698)

"Lockdown and social distancing is not needed to stop the spread of the virus, she said. People who recover are then "immune for life" after 10 days and deaths and illnesses could have been prevented by extra vitamins, she claimed.

People with underlying health conditions, such as cystic fibrosis, could freely engage in society during the pandemic after spending a few weeks building up their immunity in this manner, she went on.

Opposing vaccinations, Ms Cahill said "politicians and the media" are using Covid-19 "as a fear-mongering propaganda tool to try and take away rights from people and to make them more sick and to force vaccinations on us."

However, the European Commission said the claims made by Ms Cahill, a professor of translational medicine in UCD, could cause "significant harm", if taken literally."


"Significant harm" to whom... to what... ?   Significant harm to individuals or a Globalist agenda?
Truth or an opposing viewpoint - NEVER!  Can't tolerate dissent!  Fire her!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2021, 07:04:45 AM
Worth the viewing... before it's removed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Zc_CY74eY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Zc_CY74eY)

There is no SARS vaccine.   There is no COVID-19 vaccine.  She's saying this is dangerous and deadly.
Worse... it could make you hyper-sensitive to future Corona viruses -  like an allergic like reaction.
Message is:  This year, do not take any vaccine - look at the Amish, compared to New Jersey.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 18, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
Here is a thought. What if the "vaccine" is really a cover for population control? What if the "vaccines" are really full of nanobots which when activated by a radio signal, go to work exterminating whoever happens to have those nanobots in their system. The person dies, it's deemed as "natural causes", the person is buried and all is forgotten EXCEPT, the population is decreased exactly as the Democrats want. This idea would explain a whole lot of what is going on right now.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2021, 10:42:17 AM
Quote from: RV on April 18, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
Here is a thought. What if the "vaccine" is really a cover for population control? What if the "vaccines" are really full of nanobots which when activated by a radio signal, go to work exterminating whoever happens to have those nanobots in their system. The person dies, it's deemed as "natural causes", the person is buried and all is forgotten EXCEPT, the population is decreased exactly as the Democrats want. This idea would explain a whole lot of what is going on right now.

If my HEALTHY kids start dying a year from now - for strange reasons, I will not rest until justice is done.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2021, 10:47:40 AM
Quote from: RV on April 18, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
Here is a thought. What if the "vaccine" is really a cover for population control? What if the "vaccines" are really full of nanobots which when activated by a radio signal, go to work exterminating whoever happens to have those nanobots in their system. The person dies, it's deemed as "natural causes", the person is buried and all is forgotten EXCEPT, the population is decreased exactly as the Democrats want. This idea would explain a whole lot of what is going on right now.
Like I said in another thread, it probably has a timestamp for age 62, just as you're ready to start collecting SSI and retirement.
More money for corporations and govt.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 18, 2021, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 18, 2021, 10:42:17 AM
If my HEALTHY kids start dying a year from now - for strange reasons, I will not rest until justice is done.

Will you still insist on "justice" 5 or 10 years from now? How far will you go? What if the Supreme Court says that there is no "evidence" to support your claim? What if it goes exactly like the presidential election did? If you cannot hold anyone legally accountable, what then?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 18, 2021, 11:06:55 AM
Quote from: RV on April 18, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
Here is a thought. What if the "vaccine" is really a cover for population control? What if the "vaccines" are really full of nanobots which when activated by a radio signal, go to work exterminating whoever happens to have those nanobots in their system. The person dies, it's deemed as "natural causes", the person is buried and all is forgotten EXCEPT, the population is decreased exactly as the Democrats want. This idea would explain a whole lot of what is going on right now.

Here is another thought, suppose the wuflu which was supposed to be the mother of all killer virus's really didn't "work" like it was supposed to?  Suppose it didn't kill enough of us Over 60 folks?  Too many of "us" who got this virus survived.  Too many people in general survived....so lets develop a "booster" a trojan horse which will lie dormant for a year or a few months whatever....BUT plenty of time before the next election to kill off us older folks likely to vote Trump, then they proceed to plunder our assets thru inheirtance taxes, the SSI and the Govt pensions  (mine) and redistribute it to the hordes of illegal aliens.

These masked marvels are rushing to get this injection without ever stopping to think....blind trust in a illegal Govt...just plain stupid

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2021, 11:50:24 AM
Quote from: RV on April 18, 2021, 10:49:18 AM
Will you still insist on "justice" 5 or 10 years from now? How far will you go? What if the Supreme Court says that there is no "evidence" to support your claim? What if it goes exactly like the presidential election did? If you cannot hold anyone legally accountable, what then?
I saw the look on my mother's face, when we buried my brother - horrible.
You're asking a question to which I do not have an answer, "how far will I go".
It is a terrifying thought some of my children have taken this so called vaccination, because an employer pressured them to do so.  Both my kids & employer acted in good faith - but that's where it ends.
I might not be on this earth in 10yrs, maybe not next year... only God knows that.

I've been saying, my fear is this RNA modifier sounds more like a receptor than an actual vaccination - a handy-dandy receptacle for plugins, a mechanical, medical device - not an actual cure.

Considering the fever level pitch we've endured thus far, should my fears be confirmed - and all of us start losing loved ones, shouldn't there be accountability for people like Fauchi?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2021, 12:50:01 PM
Quote from: RV on April 18, 2021, 10:49:18 AM
Will you still insist on "justice" 5 or 10 years from now? How far will you go? What if the Supreme Court says that there is no "evidence" to support your claim? What if it goes exactly like the presidential election did? If you cannot hold anyone legally accountable, what then?
Wait. You think anyone gives a fuck about the law, where retribution is involved? I sure as Hell don't, I'd take as many out as possible, but I'm lucky, I only have to care about one in my life.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2021, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 18, 2021, 11:06:55 AM
Here is another thought, suppose the wuflu which was supposed to be the mother of all killer virus's really didn't "work" like it was supposed to?  Suppose it didn't kill enough of us Over 60 folks?  Too many of "us" who got this virus survived.  Too many people in general survived....so lets develop a "booster" a trojan horse which will lie dormant for a year or a few months whatever....BUT plenty of time before the next election to kill off us older folks likely to vote Trump, then they proceed to plunder our assets thru inheirtance taxes, the SSI and the Govt pensions  (mine) and redistribute it to the hordes of illegal aliens.

These masked marvels are rushing to get this injection without ever stopping to think....blind trust in a illegal Govt...just plain stupid
That's my thought as well Billy, I don't think this was ready for distribution, it is in fact just another flu, one these commie fucks were working on to eliminate more than half the world population.
So why would anyone trust the very people trying to kill us to come up with a cure? Those people are a spetchal kind of stupid!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 18, 2021, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: RV on April 18, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
Here is a thought. What if the "vaccine" is really a cover for population control? What if the "vaccines" are really full of nanobots which when activated by a radio signal, go to work exterminating whoever happens to have those nanobots in their system. The person dies, it's deemed as "natural causes", the person is buried and all is forgotten EXCEPT, the population is decreased exactly as the Democrats want. This idea would explain a whole lot of what is going on right now.
What if this sudden amount of mass shootings are tied into the vaccine?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 18, 2021, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 18, 2021, 11:06:55 AM
Here is another thought, suppose the wuflu which was supposed to be the mother of all killer virus's really didn't "work" like it was supposed to?  Suppose it didn't kill enough of us Over 60 folks?  Too many of "us" who got this virus survived.  Too many people in general survived....so lets develop a "booster" a trojan horse which will lie dormant for a year or a few months whatever....BUT plenty of time before the next election to kill off us older folks likely to vote Trump, then they proceed to plunder our assets thru inheirtance taxes, the SSI and the Govt pensions  (mine) and redistribute it to the hordes of illegal aliens.

These masked marvels are rushing to get this injection without ever stopping to think....blind trust in a illegal Govt...just plain stupid

Knowing the Chinese are major RACISTS...  what if the virus was suppose to kill Blacks?  They are having considerable trouble in Africa with it.  How would you develop a virus to kill Blacks and Indians? 

I'm guessing it leaked out too soon, before they had a chance to "dial it in" and "test it" on a few political prisoners for effectiveness.  Older people, meh, just a benefit of their weaker immune systems, a money saving plus.   Too bad Fauchi wasn't a test subject!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2021, 05:24:10 PM
Still want the "JAB"?

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/071/931/204/original/4c85bab3f887d038.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2021, 05:31:14 AM
Just pondering the Jab. We all know what Bill Gates thinks of humanity, there's too many of us. So he literally talks about population control and now holds many patents regarding the Jab.
Point is, he's "vaccinated" millions with his so called "vaccine", but here's the clincher, those of us smart enough to see through the bull shit and take the jab, won't be dying off from "Natural Causes" anytime soon.
That will leave the very people left behind that will stand against the NWO.

Kind of self defeating, isn't it? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rebecca on April 20, 2021, 05:34:04 AM
Holy moley ... 113 pages of deaths.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YK0JR_lFy88Zu3rcC3L5NvL_Xr3ib6zY/view






Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RedGirlinBlueMd on April 20, 2021, 04:38:10 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on April 20, 2021, 05:34:04 AM
Holy moley ... 113 pages of deaths.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YK0JR_lFy88Zu3rcC3L5NvL_Xr3ib6zY/view

Whatever this was, is no longer there because it violated the terms of service - or, in other words, had the audacity to share something negative about COVID vaccines. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rebecca on April 21, 2021, 05:27:14 AM
Quote from: RedGirlinBlueMd on April 20, 2021, 04:38:10 PM
Whatever this was, is no longer there because it violated the terms of service - or, in other words, had the audacity to share something negative about COVID vaccines.

It was 113 pages documenting vaccine deaths.

I only posted it because it was an actual compilation of social media posts (side by side; healthy young or youngish person boasts of getting the jab, then dies), and articles from local newspapers mourning death of beloved young or youngish person.

But Google can't allow that.

I get that the deaths could be coincidence. But the censorship is damnable.



Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 21, 2021, 05:32:50 AM
Quote from: Rebecca on April 21, 2021, 05:27:14 AM
It was 113 pages documenting vaccine deaths.

I only posted it because it was an actual compilation of social media posts (side by side; healthy young or youngish person boasts of getting the jab, then dies), and articles from local newspapers mourning death of beloved young or youngish person.

But Google can't allow that.

I get that the deaths could be coincidence. But the censorship is damnable.

If those deaths could be "coincidence", then could it be that deaths logged as Covid 19 are also "coincidence"?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Rebecca on April 21, 2021, 05:39:29 AM
Quote from: RV on April 21, 2021, 05:32:50 AM
If those deaths could be "coincidence", then could it be that deaths logged as Covid 19 are also "coincidence"?
Some undoubtedly are. We know this from health care officials who have the courage to reveal the guidelines they're getting on how to account for deaths.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 21, 2021, 08:24:11 AM
Quote from: Rebecca on April 21, 2021, 05:39:29 AM
Some undoubtedly are. We know this from health care officials who have the courage to reveal the guidelines they're getting on how to account for deaths.

Certainly the fact that it is lucrative to label a death as "Covid" even if it isn't, makes the "coincidences" all the more likely.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2021, 07:39:35 AM

Just watch at least the first minute... It won't be up long, I assure you.

https://youtu.be/fJMkSCXj_NY
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2021, 04:49:15 PM
Should you take the Jab?
Read before you do...


https://www.ouramericanrepublic.org/post/should-i-take-the-vaccine
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 23, 2021, 04:03:46 PM
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b3b7a2ce9fa0ea0c7859069c683bda028eeff3d6eb2ffee2d3ca798328a95f3.png?w=600&h)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 23, 2021, 05:24:37 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on April 23, 2021, 04:03:46 PM
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b3b7a2ce9fa0ea0c7859069c683bda028eeff3d6eb2ffee2d3ca798328a95f3.png?w=600&h)
Nails It!!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 24, 2021, 05:19:46 AM
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aV7g3V2_460swp.webp)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 24, 2021, 06:31:39 AM
LONG Article, a bit of history on Wuhan Flu:

http://www.indiandefencereview.com/spotlights/covid-19-the-chinese-military-and-maj-gen-chen-wei/ (http://www.indiandefencereview.com/spotlights/covid-19-the-chinese-military-and-maj-gen-chen-wei/)

Covid 19: The Chinese Military and Maj Gen Chen Wei

New term and its Definition

Opportunistic bioterrorism: Concealment of the emergence of a biological agent, pathogen or a disease by acts of commission or omission with the knowledge that such an act will harm or kill humans' animals or plants with the intent to intimidate or coerce a government or civilian population to further political or social objectives or by using a situation to get power or an advantage.

China's civil military fu ..

Read more at:
http://www.indiandefencereview.com/spotlights/covid-19-the-chinese-military-and-maj-gen-chen-wei/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2021, 07:36:36 AM
Side Effects? I keep hearing people talk of severe side effects, but are they really?

How about we just call it what it is, Planned Effects!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2021, 09:00:42 AM
Former Pfizer VP:
"It's 'entirely possible' vaccine campaigns 'will be used for massive-scale depopulation"


'PLEASE warn every person not to go near top up vaccines. There is absolutely no need to them...If someone wished to harm or kill a significant proportion of the world's population over the next few years, the systems being put in place right now will enable it. It's my considered view that it is entirely possible that this will be used for massive-scale depopulation', Dr Mike Yeadon told the American Frontline Doctors

mORE...

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/former-pfizer-vp-to-aflds-entirely-possible-this-will-be-used-for-massive-scale-depopulation
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on April 24, 2021, 10:12:13 AM
Meanwhile, in London today...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1386001021604929537
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2021, 01:42:52 PM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/072/187/525/original/63c5566322f78f12.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2021, 03:01:59 PM
HS Runner Collapses at Finish Line Due to 'Complete Oxygen Debt


Wait for it......


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzrKO0EWEAEuLf4?format=jpg&name=900x900)




















Coach Points Finger at Mask Mandates :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Folks, you can't make this shit up. :biggrin:


Maggie Williams was racing the two laps around the track and on her way to break a school record when she fell right before the finish line.

"I was pushing so hard and everything went blurry and I just fell," the high school junior said.

"But luckily I fell at the right spot and crossed the line with my head."

She skidded across the line in a record-breaking 2 minutes, 8.45 seconds.

https://www.westernjournal.com/hs-runner-collapses-finish-line-due-complete-oxygen-debt-coach-points-finger-mask-mandates/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on April 24, 2021, 04:08:23 PM


https://www.bitchute.com/video/4hdUiKkAvdEc/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/4hdUiKkAvdEc/)

:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2021, 04:29:23 PM
Quote from: IAmGrammy on April 24, 2021, 04:08:23 PM

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4hdUiKkAvdEc/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/4hdUiKkAvdEc/)

:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
Freudian My Ass! He did that on purpose, and good for him! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on April 25, 2021, 01:07:15 PM
As someone old enough to remember polio I find this sort of information ridiculous. And my wife and I and many in our family have had the Pfizer vaccine, others Moderna, a few J&J.  We are all well thanks to modern medicine and plan to stay that way.

I want to review another thread on vaccines and may post the second link there too. Bu since I give blood and occasionally plasma, this piece was of interest.  The second link is excellent, it explains why some people do stuff I consider ridiculous.  Read it read it read it.

'Do You Have To Wait To Donate Blood After Getting a COVID-19 Vaccine?'

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donate-blood-after-covid-vaccine/

You can lead a horse to water.... this is an interesting look at knowing but not knowing....

https://aeon.co/essays/why-humans-find-it-so-hard-to-let-go-of-false-beliefs

"My usual joke is that if it's bad for the world, it's probably good for my research."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 25, 2021, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 24, 2021, 01:42:52 PM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/072/187/525/original/63c5566322f78f12.png)

...of course if you're here illegally, there is zero chance that you'll infect an American citizen with anything. Illegals are immune from passing any disease along... If you don't believe it, just ask the President!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 25, 2021, 02:13:37 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on April 25, 2021, 01:07:15 PM
As someone old enough to remember polio I find this sort of information ridiculous. And my wife and I and many in our family have had the Pfizer vaccine, others Moderna, a few J&J.  We are all well thanks to modern medicine and plan to stay that way.

I want to review another thread on vaccines and may post the second link there too. Bu since I give blood and occasionally plasma, this piece was of interest.  The second link is excellent, it explains why some people do stuff I consider ridiculous.  Read it read it read it.

'Do You Have To Wait To Donate Blood After Getting a COVID-19 Vaccine?'

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donate-blood-after-covid-vaccine/

You can lead a horse to water.... this is an interesting look at knowing but not knowing....

https://aeon.co/essays/why-humans-find-it-so-hard-to-let-go-of-false-beliefs

"My usual joke is that if it's bad for the world, it's probably good for my research."
Snopes, really? You could have simply gone to the source. :rolleyes:


Can I donate COVID-19 convalescent plasma if I have received the vaccination?
At this time individuals who have received a COVID-19 vaccine are not able to donate convalescent plasma with the Red Cross. The Red Cross is working as quickly as possible to evaluate this change – as it may involve complex system updates. Please know, the Red Cross is committed to building a readily available inventory of convalescent plasma to ensure patients battling COVID-19 have all treatment options available to them.

https://www.redcrossblood.org/local-homepage/news/article/covid-19-vaccination-guide-blood-donation.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on April 25, 2021, 03:01:49 PM
Quote from: midcan5 on April 25, 2021, 01:07:15 PM
As someone old enough to remember polio I find this sort of information ridiculous. And my wife and I and many in our family have had the Pfizer vaccine, others Moderna, a few J&J.  We are all well thanks to modern medicine and plan to stay that way.

I want to review another thread on vaccines and may post the second link there too. Bu since I give blood and occasionally plasma, this piece was of interest.  The second link is excellent, it explains why some people do stuff I consider ridiculous.  Read it read it read it.

'Do You Have To Wait To Donate Blood After Getting a COVID-19 Vaccine?'

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donate-blood-after-covid-vaccine/

You can lead a horse to water.... this is an interesting look at knowing but not knowing....

https://aeon.co/essays/why-humans-find-it-so-hard-to-let-go-of-false-beliefs

"My usual joke is that if it's bad for the world, it's probably good for my research."

Covid is just a hoax, just the flu. Masks dont work. CDC admits there is no evidence covid can be transmitted thru the air. CDC admits less than 9000 have died of covid. Yet you still are living in the alternate reality where anyone still cares about it. Interesting...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 25, 2021, 06:39:25 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on April 25, 2021, 03:01:49 PM
Covid is just a hoax, just the flu. Masks dont work. CDC admits there is no evidence covid can be transmitted thru the air. CDC admits less than 9000 have died of covid. Yet you still are living in the alternate reality where anyone still cares about it. Interesting...

The Wuhan virus IS and WAS a hoax for the specific purpose of getting President Trump out of the WH, even if it took fraud and a hoax to do it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on April 26, 2021, 10:01:52 AM
To PITCHBLACK:

Will you acknowledge that covid is just a hoax by the media to try to remove trump and that there was never any need for the masks and that covid is no more dangerous than the flu?

Or will you confirm to us that you are gullible enough to buy the MSM lies?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 27, 2021, 09:03:37 AM
We have a road map to all the conspirators, including Gates and Fauci. God let us hang these selfish murderers!

Pick one, one will play the short video.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/072/656/685/original/4d7aebf15b57ae2a.mp4

https://gab.com/White__Rabbit/posts/106136084330396944
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 27, 2021, 12:44:36 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 27, 2021, 09:03:37 AM
We have a road map to all the conspirators, including Gates and Fauci. God let us hang these selfish murderers!

Pick one, one will play the short video.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/072/656/685/original/4d7aebf15b57ae2a.mp4

https://gab.com/White__Rabbit/posts/106136084330396944

And yet the media and the Democrats continue to promote, support and communicate that somehow the Corona virus magically appeared. Along with that the media and the Democrats continue to promote, support and communicate that face masks are REQUIRED or we're all gonna die. Now the Democrats and their media pundits are trying to force everyone to get a "vaccination" that they profit off of, created, promoted and lie about on a daily basis.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 27, 2021, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: RV on April 27, 2021, 12:44:36 PM
And yet the media and the Democrats continue to promote, support and communicate that somehow the Corona virus magically appeared. Along with that the media and the Democrats continue to promote, support and communicate that face masks are REQUIRED or we're all gonna die. Now the Democrats and their media pundits are trying to force everyone to get a "vaccination" that they profit off of, created, promoted and lie about on a daily basis.
Ingeniously evil, is the only way to describe it. Who would ever have guessed so many evil people could come together?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on April 27, 2021, 06:25:56 PM
QuoteSocial distancing inside at 60 feet is no safer than at 6 feet

https://www.wnd.com/2021/04/mit-study-no-safer-covid-social-distancing-6-60-feet/

QuoteIn a report that challenges widely accepted COVID-19 prevention guidelines, researchers say there's "little benefit" to health officials' "6-foot rule," especially when wearing masks inside.

"The distancing isn't helping you that much and it's also giving you a false sense of security because you're as safe at 6 feet as you are at 60 feet if you're indoors," MIT engineering professor Martin Bazant, who authored the study, told CNBC.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 28, 2021, 05:24:18 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 27, 2021, 01:51:36 PM
Ingeniously evil, is the only way to describe it. Who would ever have guessed so many evil people could come together?

Here are three of the patents but, there could be more: 7279327, 7220852, 7776521. Feel free to look them up if you doubt the veracity of these statements. You can download a pdf file of the patents as I did.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 28, 2021, 06:31:05 AM
Quote from: RV on April 28, 2021, 05:24:18 AM
Here are three of the patents but, there could be more: 7279327, 7220852, 7776521. Feel free to look them up if you doubt the veracity of these statements. You can download a pdf file of the patents as I did.
I'm sure they're good.
From what I've read, the patents are in the thousands surrounding this whole mess.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 28, 2021, 09:36:58 AM
I recently heard a commercial on the radio about how wearing masks, social distancing etc. had stopped the Covid surge in schools.  As I laughed to myself the first thought was - where was the "control group"?  Sure you can claim it worked but without the scientific evidence to show that unmasked did the opposite you have no actual proof.

This is one of the articles I could find about wearing masks. And although in the end they surmise it can't hurt there are questions
https://www.wired.com/story/the-face-mask-debate-reveals-a-scientific-double-standard/

They're right, of course, that the research literature on mask usage doesn't provide definitive answers. There are no large-scale clinical trials proving that personal use of masks can prevent pandemic spread; and the ones that look at masks and influenza have produced equivocal results. But this smattering of evidence doesn't tell us much, either way: The trials neither prove that masks are useful, nor that they're dangerous or a waste of time. That's because the studies have been both few in number and beset with methodological problems.

So with this thought in mind I plan on selflessly volunteering myself to be a one person control group for not wearing a mask.  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 28, 2021, 11:08:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 28, 2021, 06:31:05 AM
I'm sure they're good.
From what I've read, the patents are in the thousands surrounding this whole mess.

You are probably correct, there are many. So many in fact that I tried to print off the first page and it became overwhelming (the Democrat's plan). The more I research, the more I see this as a hoax to get President Trump out and install their puppet.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on April 28, 2021, 11:14:12 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/072/780/193/small/a626d72bf9bbbd3d.jpeg)
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/072/780/195/original/a00382ccd2eaefbc.jpeg)

Look at the translation of the word "sorcery" in Revelation 18:23. Look at the Greek translation! It is pharmacea or pharmaceuticals! Drug store.

The phrase is about 4 lines down - of the earth, for by the sorcery of you....

My translation says "By your magic spell all the nations were led astray"

I don't speak Greek but... this is interesting.  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on April 28, 2021, 01:39:07 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on April 28, 2021, 11:14:12 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/072/780/193/small/a626d72bf9bbbd3d.jpeg)
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/072/780/195/original/a00382ccd2eaefbc.jpeg)

Look at the translation of the word "sorcery" in Revelation 18:23. Look at the Greek translation! It is pharmacea or pharmaceuticals! Drug store.

The phrase is about 4 lines down - of the earth, for by the sorcery of you....

My translation says "By your magic spell all the nations were led astray"

I don't speak Greek but... this is interesting.  Toy

Yep, no question about it! I have heard that same thing many times. This concept has been proven over and over again. Look at the drug abuse and what it makes people do as one example.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on April 30, 2021, 06:43:11 PM
The context of Revelation 18 - is the destruction of Babylon.

For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate."  Revelation 18:17-19.

Total destruction, not so much as a candle's light seen again, so many "traders" are literally put-out-of-business in 1 hour.  Nuclear strike...?
I think it's Dubai, not the Babylon in Iraq or Rome in Italy.

Maybe some Iranian tests a nuclear warhead on Dubai as a warning to Israel?  "We got Nukes now, quit supporting Israel, or else!  Opps!  Our bad, there goes Dubai..."  It's not a stretch to imagine human trafficking, slave labor & drug trades are not going on in that environment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpdNURWbuiY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpdNURWbuiY)

Incredible wealth, the "owners" don't work, someone else does it *for* them.  If we had cars like this driving up and down my roadway, they'd be finding bullet holes in the bodywork.

https://www.alrowaad.ae/legal-blog/illegal-drugs-in-uae/ (https://www.alrowaad.ae/legal-blog/illegal-drugs-in-uae/)
"Analyzing the statistics, UAE in 2018 has witnessed a ghastly increase in the usage and possession of drugs."
... interesting...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 01, 2021, 06:50:28 AM
There's a Plague, but it isn't the CCP Flu hoax, it's the Bubonic Plague. Just a bit more perspective on reality...

Plague in the United States
Plague was first introduced into the United States in 1900, by rat–infested steamships that had sailed from affected areas, mostly from Asia. Epidemics occurred in port cities. The last urban plague epidemic in the United States occurred in Los Angeles from 1924 through 1925. Plague then spread from urban rats to rural rodent species, and became entrenched in many areas of the western United States. Since that time, plague has occurred as scattered cases in rural areas. Most human cases in the United States occur in two regions:

Northern New Mexico, northern Arizona, and southern Colorado
California, southern Oregon, and far western Nevada
Over 80% of United States plague cases have been the bubonic form. In recent decades, an average of seven human plague cases have been reported each year (range: 1–17 cases per year). Plague has occurred in people of all ages (infants up to age 96), though 50% of cases occur in people ages 12–45. It occurs in both men and women, though historically is slightly more common among men, probably because of increased outdoor activities that put them at higher risk.

Reported Cases of Human Plague - United States, 1970-2018
Human plague cases in the United States, 1970-2018. All naturally occurring cases of human plague occur in the western United States, with a majority of cases clustering in northern New Mexico and Arizona and southern Colorado.

1 dot placed randomly in most likely county of exposure for each confirmed plague case

Since the mid–20th century, plague in the United States has typically occurred in the rural West. The case shown in Illinois was lab-associated.


(https://www.cdc.gov/plague/images/USPlague70_18.jpg)

More...

https://www.cdc.gov/plague/maps/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 01, 2021, 07:26:41 AM
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.9zdPXwdCeCb9zGHrLp4huQHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Fast & effective way to rid your farm/ranch of Prairie Dogs.  Black Plague is nasty stuff, so is losing a cow to breaking a leg in a Dog hole.  They breed like rabbits & destroy pasture land like none other.

Everyone knows a rattle snake is deadly - but, who knows a single, infected Prairie Dog is REALLY more deadly?


I'm kinda interested in the NEXT pandemic, CCP is cooking up.  Probably ought to *audit* Fauchi's stock holdings, see what kinds of RNA virus cures he & Bill Gates's are funding... get a jump on it.. buy masks?  Bleach?  TP?   What's the next CCP crisis gonna be, that's what's bugging me.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 01, 2021, 08:20:21 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 01, 2021, 07:26:41 AM
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.9zdPXwdCeCb9zGHrLp4huQHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Fast & effective way to rid your farm/ranch of Prairie Dogs.  Black Plague is nasty stuff, so is losing a cow to breaking a leg in a Dog hole.  They breed like rabbits & destroy pasture land like none other.

Everyone knows a rattle snake is deadly - but, who knows a single, infected Prairie Dog is REALLY more deadly?


I'm kinda interested in the NEXT pandemic, CCP is cooking up.  Probably ought to *audit* Fauchi's stock holdings, see what kinds of RNA virus cures he & Bill Gates's are funding... get a jump on it.. buy masks?  Bleach?  TP?   What's the next CCP crisis gonna be, that's what's bugging me.

If I had to bet, I'd say that there won't be another "crisis" until closer to the next election. This "crisis" was manufactured to slip in all of the illegal stuff to get President Trump out of the WH so they could install their Marxist puppet.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 01, 2021, 08:29:40 AM
Quote from: RV on May 01, 2021, 08:20:21 AM
If I had to bet, I'd say that there won't be another "crisis" until closer to the next election. This "crisis" was manufactured to slip in all of the illegal stuff to get President Trump out of the WH so they could install their Marxist puppet.
Just about the time we take the Az fraud to a higher level, expect the Marxists to pull another terrorist trick out of their hat.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 01, 2021, 09:28:43 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2021, 08:29:40 AM
Just about the time we take the Az fraud to a higher level, expect the Marxists to pull another terrorist trick out of their hat.
Dems are busily coordinating with the MSM... planning, setting time frames, coordination the message, ready for the launch of the next crisis...

Marxists work off a playbook - we're suppose to work off a Constitution, don't need a damn playbook!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 01, 2021, 09:35:31 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 01, 2021, 09:28:43 AM
Dems are busily coordinating with the MSM... planning, setting time frames, coordination the message, ready for the launch of the next crisis...

Marxists work off a playbook - we're suppose to work off a Constitution, don't need a damn playbook!

Ah, therein lies the rub for Democrats! As Obama famously said that the U.S. Constitution got in his way of doing what he wanted to do. This is true for all Marxists, freedom, liberty, truth, justice and facts get in the way of what they want to do. Adolf Hitler had the same problem thus the German ministry of propaganda. Nowadays, the Democrats don't need a "ministry of propaganda", they have the MSM, social media and big Tech.
Title: Re: COVID-19 cases in INDIA...?
Post by: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 04:49:20 AM
China is at war with INDIA, keep that in the forefront of your mind!  :angry:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/05/01/covid-news-us-restrict-india-flights-who-green-lights-new-vaccine/4896058001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/05/01/covid-news-us-restrict-india-flights-who-green-lights-new-vaccine/4896058001/)

India reports record-breaking 400K new daily cases
"President Joe Biden's administration plans to restrict travel between the U.S. and India beginning Tuesday due to a surge in COVID-19 cases in the country of 1.4 billion people.

India set another daily global record of new cases Saturday, with more than 400,000 new cases and 3,500 deaths, according to official totals experts suspect are undercounts. Less than 2% of the country is fully vaccinated, with just under 150 million doses administered.

With oxygen in short supply at medical facilities, patients are gasping for breath, and their families – overwhelmed by grief and helplessness – are running frantically to obtain oxygen themselves. This week, the U.S. sent supplies to the country, including rapid tests, N95 masks and oxygen cylinders.

On Saturday, 12 people, including a doctor, reportedly died at a hospital in India's capital city after the facility ran out of medical oxygen. And in western India, 18 patients died and 31 others rescued in a fire in a COVID-19 hospital ward."
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Something is going on here - just not sure if this is the MSM trying whip up new fears in the public, extending this thing...?   China custom taylored Wuhan Flu for India & it's working (reducing scam calls)?  Or is this just more Fake News?
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1388142769277915141 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1388142769277915141)
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India's "vaccination rate" is 2%.  America's vaccination rate is slowing - people are saying, "no thanks!" and the Wuhan Flu spread is probably less than the summer colds.  How would the Globalists encourage Americans to get the new-fangled, RNA plugin receptacle injected?   ... well, India has a low vaccination rate, serves 'em right!  (handy excuse to get a useful, PC spin on the war between China & India - never let a crisis go to waste). 

IMO... if those 400k numbers are correct - IMHO... China has modified the virus, and is testing it on India.  Why would the CCP stop developing biological warfare?
Title: Re: COVID-19 cases in INDIA...?
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2021, 05:28:07 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 04:49:20 AM
China is at war with INDIA, keep that in the forefront of your mind!  :angry:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/05/01/covid-news-us-restrict-india-flights-who-green-lights-new-vaccine/4896058001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/05/01/covid-news-us-restrict-india-flights-who-green-lights-new-vaccine/4896058001/)

India reports record-breaking 400K new daily cases
"President Joe Biden's administration plans to restrict travel between the U.S. and India beginning Tuesday due to a surge in COVID-19 cases in the country of 1.4 billion people.

India set another daily global record of new cases Saturday, with more than 400,000 new cases and 3,500 deaths, according to official totals experts suspect are undercounts. Less than 2% of the country is fully vaccinated, with just under 150 million doses administered.

With oxygen in short supply at medical facilities, patients are gasping for breath, and their families – overwhelmed by grief and helplessness – are running frantically to obtain oxygen themselves. This week, the U.S. sent supplies to the country, including rapid tests, N95 masks and oxygen cylinders.

On Saturday, 12 people, including a doctor, reportedly died at a hospital in India's capital city after the facility ran out of medical oxygen. And in western India, 18 patients died and 31 others rescued in a fire in a COVID-19 hospital ward."
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Something is going on here - just not sure if this is the MSM trying whip up new fears in the public, extending this thing...?   China custom taylored Wuhan Flu for India & it's working (reducing scam calls)?  Or is this just more Fake News?
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1388142769277915141 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1388142769277915141)
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India's "vaccination rate" is 2%.  America's vaccination rate is slowing - people are saying, "no thanks!" and the Wuhan Flu spread is probably less than the summer colds.  How would the Globalists encourage Americans to get the new-fangled, RNA plugin receptacle injected?   ... well, India has a low vaccination rate, serves 'em right!  (handy excuse to get a useful, PC spin on the war between China & India - never let a crisis go to waste). 

IMO... if those 400k numbers are correct - IMHO... China has modified the virus, and is testing it on India.  Why would the CCP stop developing biological warfare?
Yeah, this one puzzled me, until I figured out the left thinks everyone is as stupid and gullible as their constituency. It was all about the illusion of fear, that other parts of the world were generating new strains and that it won't be long before it hits here again, Mask Up...
I watched a girl in India do a video, explained that it's not unusual to see people sleeping at the edged of the street, it's culture, they aren't dead. She said no one is dying, that the media was lying.

For example...

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/073/091/412/original/e9c730859d351a04.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 05:34:29 AM
Notice the way this MSN article is worded.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/covid-19-surges-in-oregon-sickening-younger-adults-and-forcing-a-return-to-restrictions/ar-BB1geOZN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/covid-19-surges-in-oregon-sickening-younger-adults-and-forcing-a-return-to-restrictions/ar-BB1geOZN)


"What I can't do is bring back someone's life lost to this virus," Brown said at a news conference Friday. "That's why, as hard as this is, we must act immediately. This is truly a race between the variants and the vaccines."

She imposed the restrictions after cases rose by 51% in two weeks, the fastest increase in the nation, and hospitalizations jumped by more than a third. As cases declined in much of the rest of the country, Oregon lurched in the opposite direction.

The situation is far from dire. The state's average number of daily cases over the past week stood at 19 per 100,000 people — half of what they were during the state's peak late last year and midrange nationally. In Michigan, where a record number of children have been hospitalized, the average daily case count is now 45 per 100,000.

But the worry is that the situation in Oregon could quickly spiral.

Officials were especially concerned that more than 300 people remained hospitalized with COVID-19 in a state with relatively few beds to spare."

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Allow me to re-edit, artistic liberty... minus the shrill gas lighting.
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"What I can't do is bring back someone's life lost," Brown said at a news conference Friday. "That's why, as hard as this is, we need to act wisely, not over-react & lock down foolishly. This is truly an issue of American Freedom."

She imposed the restrictions after cases rose by 0.0001% of the population, two weeks, done with tests which have not fully confirmed it's Wuhan Flu or just seasonal Flu, hospitalizations increased as a precaution.  As cases declined in much of the rest of the country, Oregon's rioting in Portland, may have provided the genesis for the increase.

The situation is far from dire. The state's average number of daily cases over the past week stood at 0.00019% of the populace — half of what they were during the state's peak late last year and midrange nationally. In Michigan, where a record number of children have been hospitalized, the average daily case count is now 0.00045% of the population.

But the worry is that the situation in Oregon could quickly spiral - not sure where or how.

Officials were especially concerned that more than 300 people remained hospitalized with COVID-19 in a state with relatively few beds to spare.  But haven't done anything to stop the mostly peaceful riots in Portland - just redirect attention towards a non-event."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 07:07:01 AM
Doctor nominated for Nobel Prize ... no vaccination!?

https://www.oann.com/doctor-known-for-hydroxychloroquine-nominated-for-noble-peace-prize/ (https://www.oann.com/doctor-known-for-hydroxychloroquine-nominated-for-noble-peace-prize/)

Doctor Known For Hydroxychloroquine Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

"Doctor Vladimir Zelenko, who became known for using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, has been nominated for a Peace Prize. One America's Caitlin Sinclair has more."

good interview - Covid-19 is extremely manageable.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2021, 07:33:34 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 07:07:01 AM
Doctor nominated for Nobel Prize ... no vaccination!?

https://www.oann.com/doctor-known-for-hydroxychloroquine-nominated-for-noble-peace-prize/ (https://www.oann.com/doctor-known-for-hydroxychloroquine-nominated-for-noble-peace-prize/)

Doctor Known For Hydroxychloroquine Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

"Doctor Vladimir Zelenko, who became known for using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, has been nominated for a Peace Prize. One America's Caitlin Sinclair has more."

good interview - Covid-19 is extremely manageable.
I've been mulling this one over for a few days and wondered how they were able to pull this off?
I expect this will either get buried or they'll go after him as a fraud and try and ruin his name.
Title: Re: COVID-19 cases in INDIA...?
Post by: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 10:41:37 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 02, 2021, 05:28:07 AM
Yeah, this one puzzled me, until I figured out the left thinks everyone is as stupid and gullible as their constituency. It was all about the illusion of fear, that other parts of the world were generating new strains and that it won't be long before it hits here again, Mask Up...
I watched a girl in India do a video, explained that it's not unusual to see people sleeping at the edged of the street, it's culture, they aren't dead. She said no one is dying, that the media was lying.

For example...

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/073/091/412/original/e9c730859d351a04.png)

That's pretty interesting!   Sleeping in the street!   I saw that in Frederiksted, St. Croix.  They were passed out on the sidewalks, here and there, day after day - until the day the Cruise Ship was due to arrive.  Drag 'em indoors, set up the volley ball nets, tables, lights, music - It's a Tropical Island Paradise!  Smiling people everywhere!  Next day, it's all taken down, people passed out on the streets, all back to normal, impoverished....  no energy expended... just barely alive, by our standards.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 02, 2021, 10:45:03 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 02, 2021, 07:33:34 AM
I've been mulling this one over for a few days and wondered how they were able to pull this off?
I expect this will either get buried or they'll go after him as a fraud and try and ruin his name.

If I had to guess, I would say that the Democrats with their media minions will smear him, claim that it is all fraudulent and do their best to discredit him and Hydoxycloroquine. It's all about keeping the masses "woke" and keeping up their message that it's untreatable, masks are the only way to avoid it and we're all gonna die.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: RV on May 02, 2021, 10:45:03 AM
If I had to guess, I would say that the Democrats with their media minions will smear him, claim that it is all fraudulent and do their best to discredit him and Hydoxycloroquine. It's all about keeping the masses "woke" and keeping up their message that it's untreatable, masks are the only way to avoid it and we're all gonna die.

I'd like to have some of this drug on-hand in case of emergency.  My kid is an EMT, studying to be an RN, works the rescue squad.  They'll pick people up, breathing hard, to the hospital ... couple of hours later, they go home, without any treatment.  ???  They gotta be SICKER before the hospital will start anything.

I keep reading Hydoxycloroquine is SAFE, and if used early on, very effective, over-the-counter, cheap.
Title: Re: COVID-19 cases in INDIA...?
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2021, 10:59:45 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 10:41:37 AM
That's pretty interesting!   Sleeping in the street!   I saw that in Frederiksted, St. Croix.  They were passed out on the sidewalks, here and there, day after day - until the day the Cruise Ship was due to arrive.  Drag 'em indoors, set up the volley ball nets, tables, lights, music - It's a Tropical Island Paradise!  Smiling people everywhere!  Next day, it's all taken down, people passed out on the streets, all back to normal, impoverished....  no energy expended... just barely alive, by our standards.
Yep, entirely different culture. Sleep wherever and no one will bother you, it's an accepted practice.
Title: Re: COVID-19 cases in INDIA...?
Post by: Hoofer on May 02, 2021, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 02, 2021, 10:59:45 AM
Yep, entirely different culture. Sleep wherever and no one will bother you, it's an accepted practice.

Yup - I'd have to be pretty drugged out to not care & have people stepping over me, dragging me out of the way.

This INDIA thing really has me curious though.  Is this a media creation to ramp up Wuhan Fu, or China attacking India with a new variant, or government goofing up?

Next time I'm on the phone with off-shore support, I'm gonna ask what's going on - a few of our "helpers" know me well enough... might get an honest answer. 

Better yet, next SPAMMER call from Bangalore, I'll ask that little prick, "Hey, you little pricks haven't been calling the last 2 weeks, ya'll getting that Chinese Flu?"
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2021, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: RV on May 02, 2021, 10:45:03 AM
If I had to guess, I would say that the Democrats with their media minions will smear him, claim that it is all fraudulent and do their best to discredit him and Hydoxycloroquine. It's all about keeping the masses "woke" and keeping up their message that it's untreatable, masks are the only way to avoid it and we're all gonna die.
There is one huge upside in this Jab shit. Libs are the ones who'll suffer the most, by either death or the lack of the ability of procreation.
So lets encourage these morons to get the jab, what could possibly go wrong? :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 02, 2021, 02:22:43 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 02, 2021, 01:25:59 PM
There is one huge upside in this Jab shit. Libs are the ones who'll suffer the most, by either death or the lack of the ability of procreation.
So lets encourage these morons to get the jab, what could possibly go wrong? :lol:

Hadn't thought of it that way. Maybe there is a bright side to all this after all!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2021, 02:30:17 PM
Quote from: RV on May 02, 2021, 02:22:43 PM
Hadn't thought of it that way. Maybe there is a bright side to all this after all!
Nature has a way of culling the stupid. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 02, 2021, 06:30:25 PM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/073/141/435/original/4476ff52ea19f7ec.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2021, 07:01:53 AM
FDA Refuses To OK CCP vaccine

FDA Will firmly Reject Authorizing approval for any Covid Vaccine...


https://t.me/santasurfing/12633
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 03, 2021, 07:32:36 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2021, 07:01:53 AM
FDA Refuses To OK CCP vaccine

FDA Will firmly Reject Authorizing approval for any Covid Vaccine...


https://t.me/santasurfing/12633


How long do you think this young man will be working for the FDA now? 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2021, 07:52:43 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 03, 2021, 07:32:36 AM

How long do you think this young man will be working for the FDA now?
Before or after he's killed? :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2021, 10:24:00 AM
Translated for the common man to understand....


What Pfizer Just Said About Its Own Vaccine Is Absolutely Frightening!
For months, I have said that the cure is often worse than the actual sickness and that is what we are seeing now. No one is saying that the virus isn't bad or that it can't be deadly, but so is the flu and most anything. However, rushing to create a vaccine in record time not knowing exactly what is in it or how it was created is troubling. First off, and this needs to be addressed right off the bat is this is not a vaccine in the traditional sense. This is not a deactivated virus being introduced but actually, gene therapy and this "vaccine" is the first of its kind.

The ramifications of this "vaccine" have not been tested and those who take this experimental jab are the test subjects.

This is not a wild conspiracy theory which is just a derogatory term people use to demean a subject that they do not know about but it is fact.

In fact, Pfizer's own documents show how dangerous this vaccine is and this needs to be read, saved, and shared with everyone who is considering taking the jab and to those who have already received it. In the documents, Pzier states that both inhalation and skin contact will transmit whatever is in the vaccine from those who receive it to those who have not received it.

Sadly, with this new "vaccine" at this time, there is no way to naturally detox from its poison as in traditional vaccines, but hopefully, we will find a way to at least lessen the blow for those who want to.

Here is what just this small portion of this Pfizer document is saying:

1. If a man who was not vaccinated touches a vaccinated woman or breathes any of the air she breathes, (in other words, walks by her in the office) and he then has sex with his wife, his wife can have an adverse event and she should avoid having children.

2. If a woman who was never vaccinated gets exposed to a woman who was vaccinated, she can:

A: miscarry,
B: spontaneously abort,
C. poison a baby via her breast milk
D: Have babies that have cognitive difficulties.

This is universal and very bad. Here is a small section of text I translated to English:

8.3.5.3. Occupational Exposure

"An occupational exposure occurs when a person receives unplanned direct contact with a vaccine test subject, which may or may not lead to the occurrence of an adverse event. These people may include health care providers, family members, and other people who are around the trial participant.

When such exposures happen, the investigator must report them to Pfizer safety within 24 hours of becoming aware of when they happened, regardless of whether or not there is an associated secondary adverse event. This must be reported using the vaccine secondary adverse event report form. SINCE THE INFORMATION DOES NOT PERTAIN TO A PARTICIPANT INVOLVED IN THE STUDY, THE INFORMATION WILL BE KEPT SEPARATE FROM THE STUDY."

TO CLARIFY: Vaccine study participants become super-spreaders of something, they don't say what it is, but it triggers secondary adverse events in people that never had the vax when they are exposed to people who did have the vax.

THIS IS SO BAD that right here, in this little bit of quoted text, it warns that un-vaccinated men who have been exposed to a woman who was vaxxed will then pass whatever is in the vax to another woman.

Even the relatively small portion of the document I have put below here says the vax triggers spontaneous abortions and reproductive problems when unvaccinated people are exposed to the vaccinated and that breast milk from a vaccinated mom can harm the infant. And if anyone does not believe it, then click the link above and wade through that enormous and intentionally confusing document. It's for real folks, the vax is indeed the kill shot.

Do not permit the vaccinated to come anywhere near you, it is now official.

Here is a small portion of this huge document, straight from Pfizer:

Terms:

Study intervention – A vaccine test subject.
AE – Adverse event in someone who got the vax.
SAE: An adverse event in someone who was exposed to someone who got the vax.
EDP: Exposure during pregnancy

8.3.5. Exposure During Pregnancy or Breastfeeding, and Occupational Exposure Exposure to the study intervention under study during pregnancy or breastfeeding and occupational exposure are reportable to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of investigator awareness.
8.3.5.1. Exposure During Pregnancy An EDP occurs if:
* A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after discontinuing study intervention.
* A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study intervention exposes a female partner prior to or around the time of conception.
* A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure. Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:
* A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact.

* A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception.

https://dailyheadlines.net/it-is-official-from-pfizers-own-documents-stay-away-from-the-vaxxed/

Here's the PDF...

https://blazingpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020_Pfizer_BioNTech.pdf
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 03, 2021, 02:26:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aISPlTLbJo
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 04, 2021, 10:00:57 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 03, 2021, 02:26:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aISPlTLbJo

Fauci hasn't seen nor taken care of a human being for MANY YEARS yet, he is claiming to know medicine. Clearly he is a "doctor" in name only and is working for the DNC rather than the American people.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2021, 10:09:06 AM
Quote from: RV on May 04, 2021, 10:00:57 AM
Fauci hasn't seen nor taken care of a human being for MANY YEARS yet, he is claiming to know medicine. Clearly he is a "doctor" in name only and is working for the DNC rather than the American people.
Bingo! Thing is, all Trump can do is remove him from a spokesman position, since the CDC is a for profit industry and in no way connected to the govt.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on May 04, 2021, 11:20:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 04, 2021, 10:09:06 AM
Bingo! Thing is, all Trump can do is remove him from a spokesman position, since the CDC is a for profit industry and in no way connected to the govt.

What?! I didnt realize that. I just assumed they were like the DEA or the IRS.
You are saying they are more like the fed, or a public utilities? Freddie and Fannie?
Good lord, the deepstate finds all sorts of loopholes!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2021, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on May 04, 2021, 11:20:06 AM
What?! I didnt realize that. I just assumed they were like the DEA or the IRS.
You are saying they are more like the fed, or a public utilities? Freddie and Fannie?
Good lord, the deepstate finds all sorts of loopholes!
Yep! Fraudci holds stock in the CDC and shares in patents they hold as well. The entire thing is a huge fuckin scam!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 04, 2021, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on May 04, 2021, 11:20:06 AM
What?! I didnt realize that. I just assumed they were like the DEA or the IRS.
You are saying they are more like the fed, or a public utilities? Freddie and Fannie?
Good lord, the deepstate finds all sorts of loopholes!
Here's an excellent article on the issue. I meant to post it over a month ago but forgot.

https://eraoflight.com/2018/12/08/robert-kennedy-jr-cdc-is-a-privately-owned-vaccine-company/
Title: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:35:02 AM
the POTUS got the c-VIRUS days before the election.

He received the best possible medical care, recovered (not 100%) before the election and was able to campaign ... but his limited status cost conservatives the election.

In his messages, he was adamant that Americans should recieve the same health care that he received.  Herd immunity was the answer.

I got the vaccine.   I am part of herd immunity as the vaccine stengthens the herd.  I hear supposed conservatives not getting the vaccine because it's the cool thing to do.

President Trump arranged Federal quick approval of the vaccine in the interest of herd immunity.  Before the election, weak boned dems called it an attempt to win the election.  After the electon weak boned Americans called it an attempt to assimilate the masses.  Really?

Note to those cool kids on the page  .... cool was something you could have been 50 years ago ...

Now perhaps, you should be a role model to those who will live long enough to remember you ... get vaccinated and stop the stupidity.  Make herd immunity real and go live life.

Going to visit Mom for Mother's Day.   I am old, so read between the lines.  Though hesitant, she got vaccinated, as did I and so the show goes on.

Sick of the noise, or the silence, of those claiming to be Trumpies that pick and choose what Trump is.

Trump is an American President, at least have the courage to be an American, get vaccinated, create herd immunity and win.

Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:41:24 AM
Walks, merge this bull shit into the CCP flu thread.
Thanks.
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Grammy on May 05, 2021, 05:44:32 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:35:02 AM
He received the best possible medical care, recovered (not 100%) before the election and was able to campaign ... but his limited status cost conservatives the election.

You think THIS is what cost us the election?    :laugh:
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:46:13 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:41:24 AM
Walks, merge this bull shit into the CCP flu thread.
Thanks.

Thanks Solar.

Your page, your contribution to America.
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:50:38 AM
Quote from: IAmGrammy on May 05, 2021, 05:44:32 AM
You think THIS is what cost us the election?    :laugh:

Yes.

Biden ran on fear, from his basement.

Pfizer already had the cure.  Trump tried to get the FDA to approve early.

Supposed intellectuals wrote Pfizer to recommend that they delay any input until after the election.

Yes, Biden won because of COVID.   America had the answer 30 days before the election and chose to allow the system to process the data.   

Does that answer your question?
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:51:28 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:46:13 AM
Thanks Solar.

Your page, your contribution to America.
No, you're a gullible fool! I suggest you read up and understand what MRNA means, it's not a vaccine, it's a DNA disruptor, to put it in terms you might understand.
You've literally just altered your very own DNA/Immune system!
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:54:06 AM
It is RNA.

Little soldiers wandering with swords to cut the caps off the C-virus invaders.

Quite intriguing.
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:55:51 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:54:06 AM
It is RNA.

Little soldiers wandering with swords to cut the caps off the C-virus invaders.

Quite intriguing.
Do you know what the "M" stands for? MRNA
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:56:17 AM
Quote from: IAmGrammy on May 05, 2021, 05:44:32 AM
You think THIS is what cost us the election?    :laugh:

Always looking for ways to win the next election, with or without you.

What did lose us the election?
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:58:12 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 05:56:17 AM
Always looking for ways to win the next election, with or without you.

What did lose us the election?
Man, you really are one dumb SOB! We didn't lose moron!
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Bronx on May 05, 2021, 05:59:42 AM
What kind of Howard Stein bullshit is this........because President Trump got vaccinated his voter base should too....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Listen I vote for policy not people. You're really not good at this.
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 06:00:39 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:55:51 AM
Do you know what the "M" stands for? MRNA

m is lower case in medical script.

It stands for messenger.

As previous ... little soldiers marching into RNA.

Yes, I understand.

Science and medicine have advanced since mice and rats and the black plague.

Fear and naivety, science and medicine cannot dispel.
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Bronx on May 05, 2021, 06:02:12 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:41:24 AM
Walks, merge this bull shit into the CCP flu thread.
Thanks.

IMO this should stand right here and let the world know Conservatives vote for policy not people. That's what makes us very different than republicans and democrats.
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 06:03:17 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 05, 2021, 05:58:12 AM
Man, you really are one dumb SOB! We didn't lose moron!

:popcorn:

Really? 

This 1.6 Trillion debt was just a bad dream?

Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Possum on May 05, 2021, 06:04:27 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 06:00:39 AM
m is lower case in medical script.

It stands for messenger.

As previous ... little soldiers marching into RNA.

Yes, I understand.

Science and medicine have advanced since mice and rats and the black plague.

Fear and naivety, science and medicine cannot dispel.
You want to get vaccinated, do it. Get all of them. Several times. But don't expect anyone to take your opinion on this subject. 
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: Bronx on May 05, 2021, 05:59:42 AM
What kind of Howard Stein bullshit is this........because President Trump got vaccinated his voter base should too....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Listen I vote for policy not people. You're really not good at this.

In short, yes.

You are Trump, or you are not Trump.

Which is it?
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Bronx on May 05, 2021, 07:27:47 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 06:05:43 AM
In short, yes.

You are Trump, or you are not Trump.

Which is it?

What kind of moron are you............I told you I vote policy not man. The sooner you understand that the sooner you understand a Conservative. You republicans and democrats can kiss my ever loving Conservative ass.

Now go get your vaccine and stop putting you faith in man. Stop bullshitting us with Howard Sterns talking points. If you haven't noticed you're stinking the joint out with it.......do you smell what I mean..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

The question you should be asking is...who killed Ashli Babbitt
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Solar on May 05, 2021, 07:40:36 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 06:03:17 AM
:popcorn:

Really? 

This 1.6 Trillion debt was just a bad dream?
What has that to do with your gullibility in believing a For Profit CDC has your best interest in mind?
I'm willing to bet you never did even the tiniest bit of research before you foolishly took the jab, a jab where you're the lab rat.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on May 05, 2021, 07:58:47 AM
Now that this has been merged into the China Virus thread, I won't hijack it except to say that we did not LOSE the election.  The democrats ... ahem...  "won" ... by the same methods they employed that put Barry Soetoro aka Hussein back in for a second term.  But this time, they were caught. 

Sorry, Solar, for the deviation from the original intent of this thread.  I'll go back into my corner now.    :smile:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 05, 2021, 09:24:31 AM
Back to Wuhan Flu.... 15x more virulent than the original.

China is at war with India - gee... you think they're trying out new strains?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm-T9MxCSuQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm-T9MxCSuQ)

Well.... they were MOCKING the Indian outbreak!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXuz5QpJfI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlXuz5QpJfI)

The CCP is coming to conquer - we're not paying attention.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 05, 2021, 09:48:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wC7dmrR32w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wC7dmrR32w)

China driving a wedge between the USA and India.
Title: Re: My best read of the President ...
Post by: Steel Shark on May 05, 2021, 11:04:29 AM
Quote from: Bronx on May 05, 2021, 06:02:12 AM
IMO this should stand right here and let the world know Conservatives vote for policy not people. That's what makes us very different than republicans and democrats.

My thought also, didn't want to impact the WUFLU thread integrity.  Then again, I am not the plantation owner. :scared:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 13, 2021, 06:32:36 PM
If you haven't seen it, it's a must see! The CCP flu was all about profit and control.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/074/019/254/original/c0a1e5b7403bca00.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU Magnet test..?
Post by: Hoofer on May 13, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
What is this all about...?  Magnet sticks to the arm where the Covid shot was given..?
Even sets off a metal detector?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/7kxdHUfMVxLk/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/7kxdHUfMVxLk/)

People saying they have a metallic taste in their mouth?
Does the metal they shot into your arm, eventually get absorbed and pissed out, sweated out or crapped out, or settle somewhere else... unexpectedly, like in a gland, lymph node, ovaries, balls, lungs, liver, or BRAIN?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 14, 2021, 04:26:40 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 05, 2021, 09:48:06 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wC7dmrR32w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wC7dmrR32w)

China driving a wedge between the USA and India.

Shouldn't be hard now. China controls many of biden's strings.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 14, 2021, 04:35:32 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 14, 2021, 04:26:40 AMShouldn't be hard now. China controls many of biden's strings.
The later development, somewhat related, Japan and Taiwan have teamed up to track China's military!

China has no shame at all.  They create this 'monster virus' - deliberately targeting Blacks and round-eyes - India, and have managed to control the global narrative, as you say, thanks to folks like Biden and Fauchi.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 14, 2021, 04:45:13 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 14, 2021, 04:35:32 AMThe later development, somewhat related, Japan and Taiwan have teamed up to track China's military!

China has no shame at all.  They create this 'monster virus' - deliberately targeting Blacks and round-eyes - India, and have managed to control the global narrative, as you say, thanks to folks like Biden and Fauchi.
with China surrounded by enemies, from Vietnam and India to Japan and Taiwan, China needs the U.S. more than we need China, and china is getting that help by making the bidens wealthy.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2021, 05:13:48 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 14, 2021, 04:35:32 AMThe later development, somewhat related, Japan and Taiwan have teamed up to track China's military!

China has no shame at all.  They create this 'monster virus' - deliberately targeting Blacks and round-eyes - India, and have managed to control the global narrative, as you say, thanks to folks like Biden and Fauchi.
Whoa Hoof, try and not derail this thread.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2021, 05:31:14 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 14, 2021, 05:40:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 14, 2021, 05:13:48 AMWhoa Hoof, try and not derail this thread.
Nope...  Where's what's being *missed*, the battle line is drawn between India and China.  China is getting away with genocide IMO - and we're next.

A report on Wuhan Flu let's China off-the-hook, again!

Was Anthony Fauchi personally involved & funded research into the creation of Wuhan Flu?
"Gain of Function" = how to increase the infection rate from 1% to 15% infection rate?


While the US new media is laser focused on emergency use, un-proven cures ... has the research into fine tuning this menance in Wuhan stopped...?  doubt it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2021, 05:41:56 AM
Bill Maher contracts COVID despite being vaccinated

Comedian Bill Maher has tested positive for COVID-19, despite being fully vaccinated.

The political humorist said he "feels fine" but decided to halt the taping of his talk show "Real Time with Bill Maher" on Friday, according to Variety.

No other staff or crew members on the program have tested positive, the outlet reports.

The news comes hours after New York Yankees shortstop Gleyber Torres became the latest member of the baseball organization to test positive for the virus, despite also being inoculated.

Eight Yankees employees are now among the thousands of Americans who have been diagnosed with "breakthrough positives cases"

"COVID-19 vaccines are effective and are a critical tool to bring the pandemic under control. However no vaccines are 100% effective at preventing illness," the CDC's website reads.

https://nypost.com/2021/05/13/bill-maher-contracts-covid-despite-being-vaccinated/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on May 14, 2021, 06:09:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 14, 2021, 05:41:56 AMBill Maher contracts COVID despite being vaccinated

Comedian Bill Maher has tested positive for COVID-19, despite being fully vaccinated.

The political humorist said he "feels fine" but decided to halt the taping of his talk show "Real Time with Bill Maher" on Friday, according to Variety.

No other staff or crew members on the program have tested positive, the outlet reports.

The news comes hours after New York Yankees shortstop Gleyber Torres became the latest member of the baseball organization to test positive for the virus, despite also being inoculated.

Eight Yankees employees are now among the thousands of Americans who have been diagnosed with "breakthrough positives cases"

"COVID-19 vaccines are effective and are a critical tool to bring the pandemic under control. However no vaccines are 100% effective at preventing illness," the CDC's website reads.

https://nypost.com/2021/05/13/bill-maher-contracts-covid-despite-being-vaccinated/
This is not really a case for a vaccine not being 100%, it is more of a case of not working. Love how the liberals do not get that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2021, 06:14:51 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 14, 2021, 06:09:51 AMThis is not really a case for a vaccine not being 100%, it is more of a case of not working. Love how the liberals do not get that.
It's puzzling as to why someone would take something that rewrites your RNA, and doesn't have an off switch.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 14, 2021, 06:33:31 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 14, 2021, 06:09:51 AMThis is not really a case for a vaccine not being 100%, it is more of a case of not working. Love how the liberals do not get that.

First why is any idiot still being tested? Second, its not the case the  vaccine doesnt work, its a case  of  false  positives which has  highly  inflated the  positve rate from day 1. And the test can pick up on anti-gens. Personally  i see  no need for a vaccine.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 14, 2021, 06:49:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 14, 2021, 06:14:51 AMIt's puzzling as to why someone would take something that rewrites your RNA, and doesn't have an off switch.

It's more like an "open receptacle", a wall outlet per say.  Something comes along that fits that receptacle, plugs right into it, and the program has the perfect pathway to wreck havoc.  Naturally, the genetic code is customized for effectiveness on certain racial profiles - meh, a handful of Chinese maybe, but the real target is your enemies!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 14, 2021, 07:02:06 AM

We also need to get  back to reality. Testing  positive isnt a  "breakthrough case". Science said  before this  became  political that to be  a case  of  something you have to actually  be sick.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 14, 2021, 08:57:34 AM
Santa Rosa parents take  back their schools

https://www.wuwf.org/post/santa-rosa-eases-masks-policy-schools#stream/0
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 14, 2021, 04:02:56 PM
Here we go folks, they're about to push the Jab ID card. "Unt, Proof You Have ID"!!!

Walmart Announces Customers and Employees No Longer Have to Wear Masks — If They Are Vaccinated
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/walmart-announces-customers-employees-no-longer-wear-masks-vaccinated/


Trader Joe's Announces Customers No Longer Have to Wear Masks
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/trader-joes-announces-customers-no-longer-wear-masks/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 15, 2021, 10:52:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 14, 2021, 04:02:56 PMHere we go folks, they're about to push the Jab ID card. "Unt, Proof You Have ID"!!!

Walmart Announces Customers and Employees No Longer Have to Wear Masks — If They Are Vaccinated
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/walmart-announces-customers-employees-no-longer-wear-masks-vaccinated/


Trader Joe's Announces Customers No Longer Have to Wear Masks
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/trader-joes-announces-customers-no-longer-wear-masks/
No one is wearing masks in the resturants around here anymore. There's nothing said about any vaccination bullshit either.
I went to the Mather VA in Sacramento yesterday and of course they're still in full on Cov8d inspired insanity mode. You'd think a hospital would know better.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2021, 10:56:48 AM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 15, 2021, 10:52:15 AMNo one is wearing masks in the resturants around here anymore. There's nothing said about any vaccination bullshit either.
I went to the Mather VA in Sacramento yesterday and of course they're still in full on Cov8d inspired insanity mode. You'd think a hospital would know better.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I was able to dump Mather because I live too far up country, I was tired of the VA bull shit, so now I have private doctors, but Marshal Hospital is still stuck on stupid.

Where do you live that you had to go to Mather?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 15, 2021, 11:07:40 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 14, 2021, 04:02:56 PMHere we go folks, they're about to push the Jab ID card. "Unt, Proof You Have ID"!!!

Walmart Announces Customers and Employees No Longer Have to Wear Masks — If They Are Vaccinated
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/walmart-announces-customers-employees-no-longer-wear-masks-vaccinated/


Trader Joe's Announces Customers No Longer Have to Wear Masks
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/trader-joes-announces-customers-no-longer-wear-masks/

The "If they are vaccinated" is nothing but a CYA position. I guarantee folks will not be asked as this unfolds.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2021, 11:24:00 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 15, 2021, 11:07:40 AMThe "If they are vaccinated" is nothing but a CYA position. I guarantee folks will not be asked as this unfolds.
If anyone is asked, tell them that is illegal, they are invading your HIPPA Rights.
Even though Ca will be one of the last to drop the mask bull shit, just know this, no one out here is enforcing it with the exception of hospitals.

I still laugh at the people wearing the badge of idiocy. :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 15, 2021, 12:13:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2021, 10:56:48 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I was able to dump Mather because I live too far up country, I was tired of the VA bull shit, so now I have private doctors, but Marshal Hospital is still stuck on stupid.

Where do you live that you had to go to Mather?

About 6 miles East of Nevada City. I thought I told you earlier.
I generally go to the clinic about 30 miles away in Auburn which for all practical purposes shouldn't even exist for all the good it does. They can't even do a simple X-ray there. I have had two docotors both from Mirinmar and I think they both got their degrees as Crackjack box prizes.
Decent medical care and good doctors are as scarse as hens teeth around the Grass Valley area. I think in general it's no different elsewhere as healthcare has generally gone to hell in America since insurance and medicare has become the norm. What we have is socalized medicine for all practical purposes. The only practical way to fix it is to ban healthcare insurace and get the dayum gubberment to hell out of the healthcare business. As soon as people had to pay their own bills prices would come crashing back to earth and doctors would all of a sudden have to care about quality and give a shit about their patients again. Back to the way it used to be when I was a kid and healthcare worked in this country.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2021, 12:20:20 PM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 15, 2021, 12:13:44 PMAbout 6 miles East of Nevada City. I thought I told you earlier.
I generally go to the clinic about 30 miles away in Auburn which for all practical purposes shouldn't even exist for all the good it does. They can't even do a simple X-ray there. I have had two docotors both from Mirinmar and I think they both got their degrees as Crackjack box prizes.
Decent medical care and good doctors are as scarse as hens teeth around the Grass Valley area. I think in general it's no different elsewhere as healthcare has generally gone to hell in America since insurance and medicare has become the norm. What we have is socalized medicine for all practical purposes. The only practical way to fix it is to ban healthcare insurace and get the dayum gubberment to hell out of the healthcare business. As soon as people had to pay their own bills prices would come crashing back to earth and doctors would all of a sudden have to care about quality and give a shit about their patients again. Back to the way it used to be when I was a kid and healthcare worked in this country.
Hmmm, I got you confused with someone in Wa..

You're eligible for the "Community Care" program, I think that's what it's called.
It took a bit of BS to finally find the right outlet at the VA, but when I did, I was approved within the week an haven't been back to the VA for anything, not even meds.

1-800-827-1000....1-877-222-8387.

Give them a call, you deserve better!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 15, 2021, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2021, 12:20:20 PMHmmm, I got you confused with someone in Wa..

You're eligible for the "Community Care" program, I think that's what it's called.
It took a bit of BS to finally find the right outlet at the VA, but when I did, I was approved within the week an haven't been back to the VA for anything, not even meds.

1-800-827-1000....1-877-222-8387.

Give them a call, you deserve better!

Unless they've changed the rules I'm just inside the line because of that useless as tits on a boar clinic in Auburn. But like I said, decent healthcare around here is hard to find anyway.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2021, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 15, 2021, 12:27:58 PMUnless they've changed the rules I'm just inside the line because of that useless as tits on a boar clinic in Auburn. But like I said, decent healthcare around here is hard to find anyway.
I don't think the clinic counts. I think it's a 40 mile limit from the actual hospital. They quit using that circle method, where they draw a circle 40 miles out, because they actually used WAZE for me, and discovered I was about 60 miles out due to crossing mountains and crossing rivers, only to get to HWY 50, then another hour drive from there.
No one drives as the crow flies. :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2021, 04:46:25 PM
They've know all along!!!


(https://wearethene.ws/assets/images/l0/ac/19/ac19c1b0ace5abf2d1c7e4b6af95be9ccfd957b0b2265a10a30a8b51d7e96d7a.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 15, 2021, 04:53:03 PM
https://www.independentsentinel.com/dr-fauci-knows-hydroxychloroquine-is-safe-and-wont-say-it/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on May 15, 2021, 05:18:52 PM
I despise that weasel faced bastard.

A very good friend of mine worked with that POS and called him a political whore.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 16, 2021, 07:05:51 AM
Fauci is a  murderer. In Virginia our dictator has also lifted the  snot rag  mandate for  vaccinated  people. I walked into 2 7/11's that still have  snot rag mandate signs  up and  no one said anything
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 07:17:14 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2021, 01:11:29 PMI don't think the clinic counts. I think it's a 40 mile limit from the actual hospital. They quit using that circle method, where they draw a circle 40 miles out, because they actually used WAZE for me, and discovered I was about 60 miles out due to crossing mountains and crossing rivers, only to get to HWY 50, then another hour drive from there.
No one drives as the crow flies. :lol:
Maybe I should check again.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on May 16, 2021, 07:32:40 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 15, 2021, 04:53:03 PMhttps://www.independentsentinel.com/dr-fauci-knows-hydroxychloroquine-is-safe-and-wont-say-it/

What a friggin' shame.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2021, 08:48:33 AM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 07:17:14 AMMaybe I should check again.
Throw a fit, then call patient advocacy, and they'll make it happen.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 08:53:36 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 16, 2021, 08:48:33 AMThrow a fit, then call patient advocacy, and they'll make it happen.
I was on the phone to one of the useless assholes yesterday. I got the impression that he was just another drooling moron sucking the taxpayer tit.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2021, 09:03:50 AM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 08:53:36 AMI was on the phone to one of the useless assholes yesterday. I got the impression that he was just another drooling moron sucking the taxpayer tit.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I went through, or rather, the wife went through about 5 of those, until we stumbled across one Japanese chick that took issue with the system.
She was like a bull dog, literally trapped them into accepting what the rules actually stated.
Definitely call the advocacy group at Mather, things will happen, don't give in, they owe you!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2021, 10:24:24 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 11:17:34 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 16, 2021, 09:03:50 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I went through, or rather, the wife went through about 5 of those, until we stumbled across one Japanese chick that took issue with the system.
She was like a bull dog, literally trapped them into accepting what the rules actually stated.
Definitely call the advocacy group at Mather, things will happen, don't give in, they owe you!
I just looked it up. I think the new rule is over a 75 minute drive and Mather is 2 friggin hours away though the Sacaramento cesspool from my home because I just did it for nothing as it turns out. The assh9le sent me down there for an aortic sonogram. It took 10 maybe 15 minutes at the outside. I get all the way to hell and gone back home another two hour drive and a half a tank of gas later for the trip and my ass had barely hit the recliner when the phone rings they're calling to tell me it was no frigging good, it couldn't be read and I need to have a cat scan instead. I think I'll force the issue to have a local cat scan.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2021, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 11:17:34 AMI just looked it up. I think the new rule is over a 75 minute drive and Mather is 2 friggin hours away though the Sacaramento cesspool from my home because I just did it for nothing as it turns out. The assh9le sent me down there for an aortic sonogram. It took 10 maybe 15 minutes at the outside. I get all the way to hell and gone back home another two hour drive and a half a tank of gas later for the trip and my ass had barely hit the recliner when the phone rings they're calling to tell me it was no frigging good, it couldn't be read and I need to have a cat scan instead. I think I'll force the issue to have a local cat scan.
If it's not too far, I prefer Reno over Mather or McClellan.
Anyway, you do get reimbursed for mileage. Definitely push for private practice. You are definitely eligible.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 12:26:25 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 16, 2021, 11:50:04 AMIf it's not too far, I prefer Reno over Mather or McClellan.
Anyway, you do get reimbursed for mileage. Definitely push for private practice. You are definitely eligible.

McClellan is a clinic under the Mather VA hospital. They can do XRays but not cat scans. Reno is way to hell and gone over the rock pile and even further away. It's over 85 miles or somesuch.
Oddly enough until recently they had the Auburn clinic operating under the Reno VA by some odd logic only the VA can devise but recently they reassigned it to Mather hospital which makes way more sense for any number of reasons. The morons would ask me go to Reno in the middle of winter for this or that but I'd always opt for Mather instead. It's as if the idiots didn't know about the most infamous moutain pass in American history. DUH!
For some odd reason the VA insists on putting all of their hospitals in the middle of big suburban cesspools.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 16, 2021, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 12:26:25 PMMcClellan is a clinic under the Mather VA hospital. They can do XRays but not cat scans. Reno is way to hell and gone over the rock pile and even further away. It's over 85 miles or somesuch.
Oddly enough until recently they had the Auburn clinic operating under the Reno VA by some odd logic only the VA can devise but recently they reassigned it to Mather hospital which makes way more sense for any number of reasons. The morons would ask me go to Reno in the middle of winter for this or that but I'd always opt for Mather instead. It's as if the idiots didn't know about the most infamous moutain pass in American history. DUH!
For some odd reason the VA insists on putting all of their hospitals in the middle of big suburban cesspools.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I know, I went in the middle of winter, not bad, I took my Subaru, actually about the same time to drive to Reno for me since I take HWY 50 over the pass.
There's no doubt you are eligible for outsourced medical. Just throw a fit, they will accommodate you, I can almost guarantee it, you just need to hit the right person, because most are fuckin lazy!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 16, 2021, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 16, 2021, 03:15:23 PM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I know, I went in the middle of winter, not bad, I took my Subaru, actually about the same time to drive to Reno for me since I take HWY 50 over the pass.
There's no doubt you are eligible for outsourced medical. Just throw a fit, they will accommodate you, I can almost guarantee it, you just need to hit the right person, because most are fuckin lazy!!!
Not only lazy but stupid too.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 17, 2021, 05:30:11 AM
Fauci Tries To Play The Race Card. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1394239138711449606
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 07:24:51 AM
Fauci=Trump's  biggest  mistake. AOC says she wont take the  mask off. One less pig B to look at.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 17, 2021, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 07:24:51 AMFauci=Trump's  biggest  mistake. AOC says she wont take the  mask off. One less pig B to look at.
Trump didn't appoint Fauci to anything, he is a representative of a private industry masquerading as a govt entity.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 08:26:18 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 17, 2021, 08:16:49 AMTrump didn't appoint Fauci to anything, he is a representative of a private industry masquerading as a govt entity.

Trump put him front and center  on stage. He  made him the face of his  taskforce.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 17, 2021, 08:31:42 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 08:26:18 AMTrump put him front and center  on stage. He  made him the face of his  taskforce.
He's always been the face of every outbreak, and no one suspected that the CDC was part of the hoax at the time.
The entire world was convinced that a weaponized virus had been unleashed on the world.

We now know the truth, libs not so much, but the rest know the truth.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on May 17, 2021, 10:08:53 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 08:26:18 AMTrump put him front and center  on stage. He  made him the face of his  taskforce.

Its a total sun tzu move for optics sake, just like his support of the vaccine. He has, thru political maneuvering, put many not so great people in power, but always with an eye towards the bigger picture, each had their purpose. Imagine if trump had put the right person in charge and covid had been gone in a month, then he couldnt use it to take down the left, just like if he had done more to stop biden then he wouldnt have the election coup to use against the left. You must see that trump is in a more powerful position now then he has ever been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RCQDDsMpU

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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 01:21:14 PM
Was awesome to see  unmasked People  in Walmart and Food  Lion.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on May 17, 2021, 02:01:43 PM
Interesting covid news from CDC and India.

QuoteElites Worried: COVID Cases in India Plummet After Government Promotes Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine Use
By Jim Hoft

Coronavirus cases are plummeting in India thanks to new rules that promote Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to its massive population.

Of course, the WHO and pharmaceutical companies are having fits.
This is despite the fact that lives are being saved.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/elites-worried-covid-cases-india-plummet-government-promotes-ivermectin-hydroxychloroquine-use/

I wonder how Lying Fauci and the media will spin this?

QuoteBOOM! CDC Director Finally Admits that COVID Cases are Hugely Over-Counted — Just as Gateway Pundit and Donald Trump Reported in August
By Jim Hoft

In August 2020 The Gateway Pundit's Joe Hoft posted an article about COVID-19 that sent shockwaves throughout the internet — The CDC website admitted that only around 6% of COVID recorded deaths were due entirely to the Coronavirus-

SHOCK REPORT: This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses

The gist of the reporte was that COVID-19 is not nearly as deadly as first projected by the WHO and then by Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Debra Birx.  Based on CDC numbers in Ausust  only 6% of all deaths attributed to COVID-19 were instances where the only factor in the individual's death was due to COVI9-19.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/boom-cdc-director-finally-admits-covid-cases-hugely-counted-just-gateway-pundit-donald-trump-reported-august/



Busted! :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

But they expect us to believe the vaccine BS!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 05:14:11 PM
Many  people should  be  in prison.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 05:18:26 PM
Everyone  in Japan is a  masked freak but  oddly they cant get the "cases" under  control.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on May 17, 2021, 06:18:02 PM
https://wearethene.ws/notable/219794

QuoteCDC's second-in-command Anne Schuchat to step down

Her decision reportedly comes after clashes with agency director Rochelle Walensky.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 17, 2021, 06:24:52 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 05:18:26 PMEveryone  in Japan is a  masked freak but  oddly they cant get the "cases" under  control.

Remember Japan was using masks long before COVID-19.  For some it's a way of life in Japan.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 06:36:07 PM
Quote from: taxed on May 17, 2021, 06:18:02 PMhttps://wearethene.ws/notable/219794

Maybe Anne wasnt as  much of a stalinist.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 17, 2021, 06:58:13 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 17, 2021, 05:18:26 PMEveryone  in Japan is a  masked freak but  oddly they cant get the "cases" under  control.
They've been mask monkeys for years before covid ever came along. Many were in China too but they still have no conception whatsoever of basic hygene.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 17, 2021, 07:14:23 PM
Quote from: walkstall on May 17, 2021, 06:24:52 PMRemember Japan was using masks long before COVID-19.  For some it's a way of life in Japan.
When I was there is 72, I was amazed at the amount of people masked up.
I asked the taxi driver why, and he said it was two fold, one, "it is common courtesy to wear a mask when you have a cold."
The other reason he said was pretty obvious, just look at the air, "Japan Is so polluted that people spend much of their time inside and mask up when outside".

He was right, the air back then was worse than La on a bad day. It was summer and he said this is a good day. :blink:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on May 17, 2021, 08:16:17 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I love this guy...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/t1Ftp7GgT9t6/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 19, 2021, 10:10:34 AM
So... Wally-mart (needed a rest room..) had about 1/2 the people still NOT wearing masks in Appomattox this am.

The rest of the SHEEP, it's business as usual, giving me evil-side-eye looks, as I walk by, smiling & enjoying my freedom - which I never gave up.

I'm gonna miss saying, "What?  could you repeat that, my hearings not real good, and your mask ... I thought you just said, 'Go fnd it yourself'... was that it? or was it, "go fck yourself?"   - LOL, no, I wanted to say that, but wearing a COMPANY branded shirt, meh, not a good idea.  LOL

I'd like to pick up one of those phones, punch in the code, "As of 6am this morning, wearing a mask at Wally work is illegal, we will be dialing 911 and reporting you as a ROBBER & we will prosecute!  Thank you for understanding our new position."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 19, 2021, 10:44:42 AM
Take a moment...

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/074/540/085/original/28208249e0fff20a.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 19, 2021, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 19, 2021, 10:44:42 AMTake a moment...

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/074/540/085/original/28208249e0fff20a.mp4
WOW! Known to the state of California and other dumbshit gubberment knucklehead agencies to cause death and destruction. I'll pass thank yew very much!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 19, 2021, 03:35:27 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 19, 2021, 10:44:42 AMTake a moment...

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/074/540/085/original/28208249e0fff20a.mp4

Wholly CRAP!!!   This is like bathing in Gasoline!  Both are Flammable, High Cancer & Infertility Risk, and make you really SICK if ingested!

I'd rather ingest a bottle of Bacardi 151... at least the effects wear off after a day or two.
A friend described Peyote as, "BARF - great high - barf, barf, wow, this is, barf, a great high - sure you, barf, don't wanna, barf, try it?"   :blink:  I'll pass...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 19, 2021, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 19, 2021, 03:35:27 PMWholly CRAP!!!  This is like bathing in Gasoline!  Both are Flammable, High Cancer & Infertility Risk, and make you really SICK if ingested!

I'd rather ingest a bottle of Bacardi 151... at least the effects wear off after a day or two.
A friend described Peyote as, "BARF - great high - barf, barf, wow, this is, barf, a great high - sure you, barf, don't wanna, barf, try it?"  :blink:  I'll pass...
Rolling in hot coals doesn't even damage you as badly as this shit, and the pain eventually recedes...
This alone should get this shit banned from the mkt. Can't wait to see what effect it's going to have in about 4 years.

There is an upside though...
Those taking this shit are short bus riders, so in truth, there is going to be one Hell of a lot more Conservatives surviving in the future.
The Dims just killed off what few supporters they had left. :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 19, 2021, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 19, 2021, 03:43:37 PMRolling in hot coals doesn't even damage you as badly as this shit, and the pain eventually recedes...
This alone should get this shit banned from the mkt. Can't wait to see what effect it's going to have in about 4 years.

There is an upside though...
Those taking this shit are short bus riders, so in truth, there is going to be one Hell of a lot more Conservatives surviving in the future.
The Dims just killed off what few supporters they had left. :lol:


And that is bad how ?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on May 19, 2021, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 19, 2021, 10:44:42 AMTake a moment...

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/074/540/085/original/28208249e0fff20a.mp4

...added it to our Conservative Hardliner BitChute channel...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/AdwKEruQQFou/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 19, 2021, 06:32:30 PM
Quote from: taxed on May 19, 2021, 06:09:55 PM...added it to our Conservative Hardliner BitChute channel...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/AdwKEruQQFou/
Excellent!!! :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on May 19, 2021, 06:55:42 PM
Everyone, I've come out as trans and I hope everyone can respect that.  Thank you.

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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 19, 2021, 07:54:37 PM
I went to a  nice restaurant tonight. No one  masked including the employees. It was great.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Woofr on May 20, 2021, 08:45:51 AM
Quote from: taxed on May 19, 2021, 06:55:42 PMEveryone, I've come out as trans and I hope everyone can respect that.  Thank you.

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/074/579/258/original/352cf70575317e25.png)

I've been wondering about the strange feelings and thoughts I've been having lately. Thanks Taxed, now I have an answer.  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Iowa Governor Signs Bill Banning Mask Mandates in Schools, Businesses
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2021, 06:02:14 AM
Iowa Governor Signs Bill Banning Mask Mandates in Schools, Businesses


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Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds signed a bill on Thursday that prohibits K-12 schools from implementing mask mandates and bars cities and counties from requiring masks in businesses.

Public and private schools cannot enforce or enact a policy forcing school employees, students or visitors to wear a mask while on the premises unless it is for a "specific extracurricular or instruction purpose" or is required under existing state law for eye and ear protective devices, the new law says.

However, masks can still be worn optionally.

The new law also prohibits cities and counties from requiring property owners to enforce a mask policy "that is more stringent than a policy imposed by the state."

"The state of Iowa is putting parents back in control of their child's education and taking greater steps to protect the rights of all Iowans to make their own health care decisions," the Republican governor said in a statement on Thursday. "I am proud to be a governor of a state that values personal responsibility and individual liberties."

The mask provision was included in HF 847, a larger education bill related to open enrollment and expanding tax programs that passed both chambers of the state legislature along party lines on Wednesday.

Iowa school districts have already repealed their mask mandates in compliance with the law, though many have still strongly recommended that staff and students don masks to protect the unvaccinated.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/iowa-governor-signs-bill-banning-mask-mandates-in-schools-businesses/
Title: Re: Iowa Governor Signs Bill Banning Mask Mandates in Schools, Businesses
Post by: Possum on May 21, 2021, 07:09:23 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 21, 2021, 06:02:14 AMIowa Governor Signs Bill Banning Mask Mandates in Schools, Businesses


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Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds signed a bill on Thursday that prohibits K-12 schools from implementing mask mandates and bars cities and counties from requiring masks in businesses.

Public and private schools cannot enforce or enact a policy forcing school employees, students or visitors to wear a mask while on the premises unless it is for a "specific extracurricular or instruction purpose" or is required under existing state law for eye and ear protective devices, the new law says.

However, masks can still be worn optionally.

The new law also prohibits cities and counties from requiring property owners to enforce a mask policy "that is more stringent than a policy imposed by the state."

"The state of Iowa is putting parents back in control of their child's education and taking greater steps to protect the rights of all Iowans to make their own health care decisions," the Republican governor said in a statement on Thursday. "I am proud to be a governor of a state that values personal responsibility and individual liberties."

The mask provision was included in HF 847, a larger education bill related to open enrollment and expanding tax programs that passed both chambers of the state legislature along party lines on Wednesday.

Iowa school districts have already repealed their mask mandates in compliance with the law, though many have still strongly recommended that staff and students don masks to protect the unvaccinated.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/iowa-governor-signs-bill-banning-mask-mandates-in-schools-businesses/
Imho, we are seeing these bills passed not because the dreaded virus has been conquered, but because too many are now realizing we the people have been had. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 21, 2021, 08:38:50 AM
She  is a  hero.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on May 21, 2021, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 21, 2021, 08:38:50 AMShe  is a  hero.

Hmmm  Hero, I would say she feels is do the job the people of her state elected her to do.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 21, 2021, 10:49:21 AM
Noem/Reynolds 2024!!
Title: Re: Iowa Governor Signs Bill Banning Mask Mandates in Schools, Businesses
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2021, 11:27:29 AM
Quote from: Possum on May 21, 2021, 07:09:23 AMImho, we are seeing these bills passed not because the dreaded virus has been conquered, but because too many are now realizing we the people have been had.
Nailed it!!! :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2021, 11:27:59 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 21, 2021, 10:49:21 AMNoem/Reynolds 2024!!
Noem blew her chance, and never recovered.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 21, 2021, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 21, 2021, 11:27:59 AMNoem blew her chance, and never recovered.
Meeeehhhh.... I think Noem stumbled.  She's had it pretty easy, in South Dakota.  She's not ready for prime time, not with her squishy version of patriotism/conservatism.

She might grow a spine... we'll see.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2021, 01:12:57 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 21, 2021, 12:58:03 PMMeeeehhhh.... I think Noem stumbled.  She's had it pretty easy, in South Dakota.  She's not ready for prime time, not with her squishy version of patriotism/conservatism.

She might grow a spine... we'll see.
Yeah, she exposed herself as weak in the face of the left over that trans sports BS.
Now she's arguing with Bitme admin over a fireworks display at Mt Rushmore on the 4th.

Here's how you deal with dictators, you do it and force them to stop you!

I don't think she has the spine, and it's the only way she'll save face.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 21, 2021, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 21, 2021, 01:12:57 PMYeah, she exposed herself as weak in the face of the left over that trans sports BS.
Now she's arguing with Bitme admin over a fireworks display at Mt Rushmore on the 4th.

Here's how you deal with dictators, you do it and force them to stop you!

I don't think she has the spine, and it's the only way she'll save face.

Tough talk is EASY when you're surrounded by friends.   Standing alone, among a pack of DC swamp rats, takes GUTS - and some rock solid convictions, knowing WHY you're right, instead of just parroting or reading from a teleprompter.   

Watch a few of those interviews of her - she seems to have trouble really nailing down, in clear, concise language, 'this IS this, and that IS that' ... she lacks DEPTH of her convictions, unlike Reagan or Trump, she's more defensive than offensive in her arguments... IMO. 

My gut says, "she's toast" - my head says, "she better get her ducks in a row, and articulate better, or she's toast."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2021, 05:26:32 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 21, 2021, 01:26:36 PMTough talk is EASY when you're surrounded by friends.  Standing alone, among a pack of DC swamp rats, takes GUTS - and some rock solid convictions, knowing WHY you're right, instead of just parroting or reading from a teleprompter. 

Watch a few of those interviews of her - she seems to have trouble really nailing down, in clear, concise language, 'this IS this, and that IS that' ... she lacks DEPTH of her convictions, unlike Reagan or Trump, she's more defensive than offensive in her arguments... IMO. 

My gut says, "she's toast" - my head says, "she better get her ducks in a row, and articulate better, or she's toast."
Exactly Correct! She's simply too damn young, she has a lot of years to solidify her Conservatism, then we can talk, but for now, she needs at a minimum. a decade under her belt before she moves forward.

Take Marjorie Green, that woman knows at her core what it means to be a Conservative.
Title: 227,805 reported adverse reactions following injection
Post by: Solar on May 21, 2021, 05:43:16 PM
Keep in mind, not everyone took the time to report just how bad their reactions were.


To date, there have been 227,805 reported adverse reactions following injection of one of the three Covid-19 "vaccines." Bear in mind, this is data that's accumulated on a self-reporting basis only. In other words, any Americans who did not know to report their adverse reactions to the VAERS system, which is likely the vast majority, are not included in the number. It's almost certain the actual number of adverse reactions experienced by "vaccine" recipients is well into the millions.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-cdc-adverse-events-covid-vaccines-surpass-200000/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on May 22, 2021, 01:25:16 PM
And yet another concern with the injection...

Doctors fear COVID-19 vaccines are messing with mammograms

After more than a year of anxious waiting, women newly vaccinated against COVID-19 are flocking back to mammography clinics to catch up on routine tests that were delayed by the pandemic. In some cases, they're met with one more pandemic surprise: a false red flag for breast cancer.

If it's a false alarm, women certainly don't need the worry-inducing call reporting an "abnormal reading" on their mammogram. And few welcome the additional tests that tend to follow.


Having to go back for additional testing in my past this would suck.  Also there is the possibility someone may not take the follow up seriously if they had gotten the shot.

Either way it is a lose/lose situation.  Toy
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-05-doctors-covid-vaccines-messing-mammograms.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on May 22, 2021, 03:51:22 PM
If Dr. Fauchi hasn't practiced medicine in 25 years - why is he considered an expert, unless... he was working hand-in-glove with the lab in Wuhan?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 24, 2021, 03:08:23 PM
If you are considering taking the Jab?
Read and hear the truth from someone who lived it.

Former Pfizer VP: 'Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.'
'Look out the window, and think, "why is my government lying to me about something so fundamental?" Because, I think the answer is, they are going to kill you using this method. They're going to kill you and your family.'


Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with "the most senior research position" in his field, spoke with LifeSiteNews in a telephone interview.

He addressed the "demonstrably false" propaganda from governments in response to COVID-19, including the "lie" of dangerous variants, the totalitarian potential for "vaccine passports," and the strong possibility we are dealing with a "conspiracy" which could lead to something far beyond the carnage experienced in the wars and massacres of the 20th century.

His main points included:

There is "no possibility" current variants of COVID-19 will escape immunity. It is "just a lie."

Yet, governments around the world are repeating this lie, indicating that we are witnessing not just "convergent opportunism," but a "conspiracy." Meanwhile media outlets and Big Tech platforms are committed to the same propaganda and the censorship of the truth.

Pharmaceutical companies have already begun to develop unneeded "top-up" ("booster") vaccines for the "variants." The companies are planning to manufacture billions of vials, in addition to the current experimental COVID-19 "vaccine" campaign.

Regulatory agencies like the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the European Medicines Agency, have announced that since these "top-up" vaccines will be so similar to the prior injections which were approved for emergency use authorization, drug companies will not be required to "perform any clinical safety studies."

Thus, this virtually means that design and implementation of repeated and coerced mRNA vaccines "go from the computer screen of a pharmaceutical company into the arms of hundreds of millions of people, [injecting] some superfluous genetic sequence for which there is absolutely no need or justification."

Why are they doing this? Since no benign reason is apparent, the use of vaccine passports along with a "banking reset" could issue in a totalitarianism unlike the world has ever seen. Recalling the evil of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, "mass depopulation" remains a logical outcome.

The fact that this at least could be true means everyone must "fight like crazy to make sure that system never forms."

Much more!

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on May 24, 2021, 08:37:57 PM
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1396871576897867777
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 25, 2021, 06:43:50 AM
Ya know why the left has lost? Commie Flu, it belongs to Marxists.
This isn't like the AGW issue, or trans shit, where you are attacked if you say AGW is normal and the earths climate fluctuates naturally, or that freaks don't need special rights.

Libs would come out of the woodwork with all kinds of "Empirical studies" making radical claims, all the while ignoring reality.
But not this time, no, libs never married to this as a left right issue, but they are about to reject their own party for lying to them for control.

Think about it, only Blue cities are pushing masks and other BS to keep people scared, while the Right goes on with their lives.

Reality is a mean ass teacher and libs are about to get really pissed over being lied to...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 25, 2021, 10:07:02 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 25, 2021, 11:14:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 25, 2021, 10:07:02 AM(https://i1.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/angry-lady-cat-smudge-i-trust-science-you-trust-tv.jpg?resize=768%2C540&ssl=1)
:thumbup:
They wouldn't know science if it bit them in their asses.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 25, 2021, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on May 21, 2021, 08:38:50 AMShe  is a  hero.

Things have changed. When I was a kid, it was everyone's duty to uphold the Constitution. Nowadays, those who uphold the Constitution are called "hero". Things have sure changed!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 26, 2021, 07:44:55 AM
VA community  college system wont require vaccines for students and staff. Face diaper mandate dropped.

https://www.pilotonline.com/news/education/dp-nw-vccs-mask-vaccines-20210525-pxk77gg5v5bdnjbgrvgvniw63q-story.html (https://www.pilotonline.com/news/education/dp-nw-vccs-mask-vaccines-20210525-pxk77gg5v5bdnjbgrvgvniw63q-story.html)



"Community college students and staff in Virginia will not be required to get the COVID-19 vaccine, the Virginia Community College System announced Tuesday.

The system, which includes Thomas Nelson and Tidewater community colleges, also will not require those who are fully vaccinated to wear masks on campuses. Chancellor Glenn DuBois said in a statement that he didn't think mandating proof of vaccines would be practical."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 26, 2021, 07:52:17 AM
Quote from: RV on May 25, 2021, 02:57:41 PMThings have changed. When I was a kid, it was everyone's duty to uphold the Constitution. Nowadays, those who uphold the Constitution are called "hero". Things have sure changed!
Soooo True!
This was a shared consensus in the country, so when someone ran under the GOP banner, it was assumed they had been thoroughly vetted by those in office.
Little did we realize even 50 years ago, they were lying, there was already an agenda underway to move the party leftward.

It wasn't that we were asleep, it was a concerted effort to get leftists elected under the guise of Conservatism.
Bush, Dole, McStain, all part of an underground effort to create crony capitalism, which eventually became a pay to play operation.

How times have changed, and now, for the better, finally.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 26, 2021, 01:32:18 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 26, 2021, 07:52:17 AMSoooo True!
This was a shared consensus in the country, so when someone ran under the GOP banner, it was assumed they had been thoroughly vetted by those in office.
Little did we realize even 50 years ago, they were lying, there was already an agenda underway to move the party leftward.

It wasn't that we were asleep, it was a concerted effort to get leftists elected under the guise of Conservatism.
Bush, Dole, McStain, all part of an underground effort to create crony capitalism, which eventually became a pay to play operation.

How times have changed, and now, for the better, finally.

It's simpler not to trust ANY career politician.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 27, 2021, 02:32:22 PM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

http://82.221.129.208/euthanized.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 27, 2021, 03:55:58 PM
Quote from: RV on May 25, 2021, 02:57:41 PMThings have changed. When I was a kid, it was everyone's duty to uphold the Constitution. Nowadays, those who uphold the Constitution are called "hero". Things have sure changed!
Are you kidding? Hell all it takes to be labeled a hero these days is bag some groceries or restock the produce department.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 27, 2021, 04:52:15 PM
Simply genius. Use what already works independently, merge them and patent it. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Finnish firm earns US patent for Covid drug containing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine
The Turku company says its nasal spray delivers low, safe doses of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and aprotinin.


A coronavirus drug developed by Therapeutica Borealis, a pharmaceutical firm in Turku, has been granted a patent by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). The nasal spray contains hydroxychloroquine, among other ingredients.

Earlier in May, the company said it had received approval for a patent application, based on which it expected a final patent this month.

"The final patent is an important milestone for us on our way to the market. Our next goal is to find an established pharmaceutical industry company with an international business scale," says Professor Kalervo Väänänen, one of the three inventors and founders of Therapeutica Borealis, in a press release on Monday. Väänänen is a cell biologist and former rector of the University of Turku.

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finnish_firm_earns_us_patent_for_covid_drug_containing_ivermectin_and_hydroxychloroquine/11946611
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 27, 2021, 05:53:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 27, 2021, 04:52:15 PMSimply genius. Use what already works independently, merge them and patent it. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Finnish firm earns US patent for Covid drug containing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine
The Turku company says its nasal spray delivers low, safe doses of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and aprotinin.


A coronavirus drug developed by Therapeutica Borealis, a pharmaceutical firm in Turku, has been granted a patent by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). The nasal spray contains hydroxychloroquine, among other ingredients.

Earlier in May, the company said it had received approval for a patent application, based on which it expected a final patent this month.

"The final patent is an important milestone for us on our way to the market. Our next goal is to find an established pharmaceutical industry company with an international business scale," says Professor Kalervo Väänänen, one of the three inventors and founders of Therapeutica Borealis, in a press release on Monday. Väänänen is a cell biologist and former rector of the University of Turku.

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finnish_firm_earns_us_patent_for_covid_drug_containing_ivermectin_and_hydroxychloroquine/11946611

I'm also sure that all of the closed businesses and destruction in the U.S.A. is making the Democrats LOTS of money as well as pushing the Marxist agenda of socialism...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 28, 2021, 12:14:00 PM
Just as an aside on this thread. This week it seems to MSM is finally coming around and agreeing with Trump this virus came out of the Lab in Wuhan.

This morning I heard Gen. Jack Kean describe if this is true or not in a very simple and succinct comment.

He basically said if the CCP had proof it came from an open market they would have been in front of a microphone faster than Chuckie Schumer.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 28, 2021, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 28, 2021, 12:14:00 PMJust as an aside on this thread. This week it seems to MSM is finally coming around and agreeing with Trump this virus came out of the Lab in Wuhan.

This morning I heard Gen. Jack Kean describe if this is true or not in a very simple and succinct comment.

He basically said if the CCP had proof it came from an open market they would have been in front of a microphone faster than Chuckie Schumer.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Too True!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 28, 2021, 01:54:27 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 28, 2021, 12:31:58 PM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Too True!!!

I find it interesting that big tech. has been censoring and scuttling ANY reports about the virus coming from a lab (for over a year), until now. Now that the Marxists have been installed, now that numerous EO's have been written and now that the election fraud has been committed.
Title: Fauci In 2012: Gain-Of-Function Research 'Worth Risk Of Lab Accident
Post by: Solar on May 28, 2021, 04:25:46 PM
He'll be gone shortly!!!!


Fauci In 2012: Gain-Of-Function Research 'Worth Risk Of Lab Accident Sparking Pandemic'

FRIDAY, MAY 28, 2021 - 03:03 PM
America's top virologist, Anthony Fauci, argued in 2012 that the risks of a lab accident sparking a pandemic are outweighed by the potential benefits of manipulating viruses via gain-of-function research, according to previously unsurfaced remarks reported by Sharri Markson via The Australian.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fauci-2012-gain-function-research-worth-risk-lab-accident-sparking-pandemic
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 30, 2021, 10:20:13 AM
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/075/454/990/original/de3c0c2ffeba3534.mp4

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 30, 2021, 10:20:53 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/075/477/656/original/f1b2c0d1e815c99e.jpeg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on May 30, 2021, 12:02:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 30, 2021, 10:20:53 AM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/075/477/656/original/f1b2c0d1e815c99e.jpeg)

The owner achieved his goal. Free advertising.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 30, 2021, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 30, 2021, 12:02:37 PMThe owner achieved his goal. Free advertising.
:thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Excellent point!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on May 30, 2021, 11:49:07 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/W7VH3YaMOpFl/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on May 31, 2021, 04:57:21 AM
Quote from: taxed on May 30, 2021, 11:49:07 PMhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/W7VH3YaMOpFl/
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on May 31, 2021, 09:08:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 30, 2021, 10:20:53 AM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/075/477/656/original/f1b2c0d1e815c99e.jpeg)

People wearing those dirty snot rags are germ spreaders.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on May 31, 2021, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 30, 2021, 10:20:13 AM:thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/075/454/990/original/de3c0c2ffeba3534.mp4

All too true!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on May 31, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 31, 2021, 11:06:10 AMAll too true!

I guess those "face masks" help the criminals but, for those who obey the law, not so much.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on May 31, 2021, 01:59:18 PM
Quote from: taxed on May 30, 2021, 11:49:07 PMhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/W7VH3YaMOpFl/

I hope he kicked that security guards ass too for grabbing him like that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on May 31, 2021, 02:00:53 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 30, 2021, 10:20:53 AM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/075/477/656/original/f1b2c0d1e815c99e.jpeg)

They should be able to refuse service to anyone wearing a mask.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on June 01, 2021, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 30, 2021, 10:20:53 AM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/075/477/656/original/f1b2c0d1e815c99e.jpeg)

It also takes longer for staff to take their order - everything is muffled and garbled.  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 01, 2021, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on June 01, 2021, 09:29:31 AMIt also takes longer for staff to take their order - everything is muffled and garbled.  Toy

Great point! My wife is deaf in one ear and only has about 30% in the other ear. Masks make it nearly impossible for her to understand what people are saying.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on June 01, 2021, 01:04:28 PM
Quote from: RV on June 01, 2021, 11:15:48 AMGreat point! My wife is deaf in one ear and only has about 30% in the other ear. Masks make it nearly impossible for her to understand what people are saying.

Even with 2 hearing aids, I need to read lips for everything that is being said.  Hearing aids help but not 100%.  If I am in the other room all I hears is someone talking but not what they are saying.  Hearing aids amplify sound, so if a TV or radio is on it will amplify them over a person talking in the same room. 

Now my hearing aids are Bluetooth hearing aids.  So the sounds from my computer and phone goes right into my hearing aids and block out all other sounds around me. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 01, 2021, 01:10:24 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 01, 2021, 01:04:28 PMEven with 2 hearing aids, I need to read lips for everything that is being said.  Hearing aids help but not 100%.  If I am in the other room all I hears is someone talking but not what they are saying.  Hearing aids amplify sound, so if a TV or radio is on it will amplify them over a person talking in the same room. 

Now my hearing aids are Bluetooth hearing aids.  So the sounds from my computer and phone goes right into my hearing aids and block out all other sounds around me.
Why I never wear in a noisy diner, the moment the bus guy dumps the dirty utensils in the sink, it's as if 1000 cats were fighting on a giant chalk board. :scared:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 01, 2021, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: RV on June 01, 2021, 11:15:48 AMGreat point! My wife is deaf in one ear and only has about 30% in the other ear. Masks make it nearly impossible for her to understand what people are saying.
Over the last year, I've said, "What?" or "Say again?" or "I'm sorry, again?" more times than my entire lifetime.
the tinnitus in my right ear, wipes out the vocal frequencies - I just can hear normal speech well, a hearing aid isn't gonna improve what I can't hear.  Yeah, after I say "what" I look right at the lips, as a form of lip-reading too.  This has been a awful year for me. 

The sooner the masks come off, the better - I didn't realize how much I was depending on lip-reading to help me understand conversation.  Even watching a movie - I'm lip-reading, to help me hear & understand.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 01, 2021, 01:54:26 PM
Bad lip read... Zuckerberg.



If this was an everyday thing... I'd quickly fall off the edge of reality!

Miss Lindsey is just hilarious!


This is hilarious!

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on June 01, 2021, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2021, 01:10:24 PMWhy I never wear in a noisy diner, the moment the bus guy dumps the dirty utensils in the sink, it's as if 1000 cats were fighting on a giant chalk board. :scared:


My hearing aids I can turn off and they act like ear plugs.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 02, 2021, 05:05:46 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 02, 2021, 05:06:25 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 02, 2021, 05:14:03 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E219MrNWUAU33Qr?format=jpg&name=small)


Ya think Fauchi is really HATING FOIA now...?

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1fa18efc21c50a4d41043ef29f50445c4241bcfd51cf253461fd6e0ef5581a33.png?w=600&h=624)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU - OUCH!!!
Post by: Hoofer on June 02, 2021, 03:25:08 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 02, 2021, 03:29:17 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-keTTh7C1sKA/YK2F4RjRrnI/AAAAAAAAvcg/wJedwBiJnhg8S-HKBp6lS2J4Hqtyv6wPACLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h556/9.jpeg)

maybe it was planned out, well in advance...?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WoCFhJquwZg/YK2FQcuyFoI/AAAAAAAAvbo/oow_okciHVAPUgDmaLJO3Rbt_iQXlPCXQCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h428/5.jpeg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 04, 2021, 07:47:11 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on June 04, 2021, 07:52:36 AM
So you know that email from fauci that just surfaced were he said masks arent needed?

Well faceplant just gave me a 24 hour ban for posting a pic of that email and their excuse was, "Covid misinformation that could lead to physical harm"

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 04, 2021, 08:14:45 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on June 04, 2021, 07:52:36 AMSo you know that email from fauci that just surfaced were he said masks arent needed?

Well faceplant just gave me a 24 hour ban for posting a pic of that email and their excuse was, "Covid misinformation that could lead to physical harm"

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
And the MSM is saying, "It's too many pages to read... blah!"  never thought the MSM could be so damn lazy!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 04, 2021, 09:07:24 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 04, 2021, 08:14:45 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
And the MSM is saying, "It's too many pages to read... blah!"  never thought the MSM could be so damn lazy!

Seems like the MSM would rather communicate lies, fabrications and party propaganda because "it's easier..."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 04, 2021, 10:35:19 AM
https://rumble.com/embed/vff4df/?pub=isdal
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 04, 2021, 10:38:39 AM
https://rumble.com/embed/vff68d/?pub=isdal
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 04, 2021, 10:44:51 AM
https://www.infowars.com/posts/oracle-vp-dies-of-covid-after-receiving-second-vaccine-injection/

QuoteJoel R. Kallman, the head of software development for Oracle APEX, died from "covid" just days after receiving his second mRNA injection for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19).

On March 26, Kallman tweeted to his followers that he had received his first Chinese Virus shot and was proud to have created "v-safe," a smartphone-based tool to remind others to also get theirs.

About a month later, right on schedule, Kallman received his second Wuhan Flu injection and subsequently died on May 25, prompting Oracle and the mainstream media to immediately declare that he died from "covid."

"We're heartbroken to share that Joel Kallman has passed away from Covid-19 on May 25th," Oracle APEX tweeted right after Kallman's death was revealed. "He was 54."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 04, 2021, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: taxed on June 04, 2021, 10:38:39 AMhttps://rumble.com/embed/vff68d/?pub=isdal
I remember reading months ago that the virus was proven to have been merged with a parasitic carrier, and Fungus would be that perfect agent! :sneaky:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 04, 2021, 11:30:32 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 04, 2021, 10:45:36 AMI remember reading months ago that the virus was proven to have been merged with a parasitic carrier, and Fungus would be that perfect agent! :sneaky:
Well, that's just perfect then!  Can't tell where it came from, a person, a package, maybe a letter or post card, (telling you go get a shot).

Our neighbors (80ish), who stayed HOME from everything, BOTH got it, wound up in the Hospital.  They had NO visitors, other than the mail carrier to the mail-box.. and they ordered FOOD online.  Didn't see anyone for months - still got it.   :huh:   They have no clue, how they both came down with it.   
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on June 05, 2021, 07:06:44 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1400977520078503938 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1400977520078503938)

Twitter link just says "Loading...."  but you can click it.   :smile:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 06, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Allrighty then....

https://gab.com/SonOfEnos/posts/106341172830434826
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on June 06, 2021, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 12:27:13 PMAllrighty then....

https://gab.com/SonOfEnos/posts/106341172830434826


Now THAT'S how to wear a "Freedom" shirt!   :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 06, 2021, 12:43:08 PM
Quote from: Grammy on June 06, 2021, 12:41:40 PMNow THAT'S how to wear a "Freedom" shirt!  :thumbup:

That's so reflective of what's happening overall on all fronts...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on June 06, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 12:27:13 PMAllrighty then....

https://gab.com/SonOfEnos/posts/106341172830434826

Thats ridiculous, she is fully within her rights to shoot them if they dont follow her orders and leave.

At the very least I would have shoved that chick cop to the ground and quickly shut and locked my door, then grabbed my gun if they tried to break it down.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on June 06, 2021, 12:47:02 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 12:43:08 PMThat's so reflective of what's happening overall on all fronts...


People are freakin' fed up!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 06, 2021, 12:47:30 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on June 06, 2021, 12:44:04 PMThats ridiculous, she is fully within her rights to shoot them if they dont follow her orders and leave.

At the very least I would have shoved that chick cop to the ground and quickly shut and locked my door, then grabbed my gun if they tried to break it down.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on June 06, 2021, 12:55:37 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 12:47:30 PM


Crowder!!   :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 06, 2021, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 06, 2021, 12:27:13 PMAllrighty then....

https://gab.com/SonOfEnos/posts/106341172830434826
That's how it's done! :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on June 06, 2021, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 06, 2021, 02:57:32 PMThat's how it's done! :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
I wish I knew more about the incident. Depending on the circumstances, a pump 12 gauge speaks louder than words alone. I have a pump just for the sound it makes when you rack a round.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 06, 2021, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: dickfoster on June 06, 2021, 04:12:19 PMI wish I knew more about the incident. Depending on the circumstances, a pump 12 gauge speaks louder than words alone. I have a pump just for the sound it makes when you rack a round.
I think that was Canada, they'd have arrested her and confiscated her guns. She'd probably have wound up in prison.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on June 07, 2021, 07:22:00 AM
First this got me banned from FB...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8s8BkLQ4/E219-Mr-NWUAU33-Qr.jpg)

Then this got me banned...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJmDFG6G/8abf904d1b4dfa0c.jpg)

Im starting to think their programs can read text in pictures. Im gonna try to transcribe these into actual text and change or disguise some key words that I think the programs are looking for.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 07, 2021, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on June 07, 2021, 07:22:00 AMFirst this got me banned from FB...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8s8BkLQ4/E219-Mr-NWUAU33-Qr.jpg)

Then this got me banned...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJmDFG6G/8abf904d1b4dfa0c.jpg)

Im starting to think their programs can read text in pictures. Im gonna try to transcribe these into actual text and change or disguise some key words that I think the programs are looking for.

The MSM is never going to report the truth to the sheeple. I see some "woke" folks in their car ALONE, walking down the street ALONE or out in a public place with their masks on. The DNC is certainly not going to let the truth out. I had a liberal friend tell me that he would take "whatever" injection "they" tell him to... He parroted that I didn't trust them but, apparently he does. I believe it will be quite easy for the mark of the beast to be forced on people using the same tactics.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on June 07, 2021, 09:34:55 AM
I have heard this before but it is really starting to make sense. https://noqreport.com/2021/06/07/dr-joseph-mercola-was-the-whole-pandemic-about-the-vaccine/

This is the part that should send red flags to everyone out there.
QuoteWhat's more, North Carolina has now passed legislation that allows children as young as 12 to get the COVID vaccine without parental consent.19 Think about that. As of May 21, 2021, 4,406 Americans had died after the COVID vaccine,20 including three teenagers,21 22 23 24 and 12-year-olds are now being encouraged to make a life and death decision without their parents?

These people are far too desperate to get everyone vaccinated for a virus that has a 99+% of survival.

Not mad enough yet,
QuoteDon't do it, McCullough says — don't fall for this trap because it's only going to make things worse. By vaccinating everyone against a very narrow spectrum of immunity — the original SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which has since mutated in any number of ways and no longer exists — "we are setting ourselves up for a superbug that's going to wipe out populations," he says.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 07, 2021, 03:10:13 PM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/076/141/712/original/278a5a6b32797841.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: dickfoster on June 07, 2021, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on June 07, 2021, 07:22:00 AMFirst this got me banned from FB...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8s8BkLQ4/E219-Mr-NWUAU33-Qr.jpg)

Then this got me banned...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJmDFG6G/8abf904d1b4dfa0c.jpg)

Im starting to think their programs can read text in pictures. Im gonna try to transcribe these into actual text and change or disguise some key words that I think the programs are looking for.
Not to worry. If facebook banned you you are in very good company. In some circles it's a prerequisite.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 07, 2021, 04:03:44 PM
https://gab.com/shadowknight412/posts/106371865992784465
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 07, 2021, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 07, 2021, 04:03:44 PMhttps://gab.com/shadowknight412/posts/106371865992784465
Gee. Wonder where he got the idea? :rolleyes:     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 07, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on June 07, 2021, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: dickfoster on June 07, 2021, 03:27:04 PMNot to worry. If facebook banned you you are in very good company. In some circles it's a prerequisite.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: American Exceptionalism on June 08, 2021, 05:28:37 AM
Apologizes if this was posted.

QuoteWhile social and behavioral science researchers apply "soft science" techniques in an attempt to maneuver vaccine confidence into more acquiescent territory, bench scientists have a different option potentially waiting in the wings — genetically engineered vaccines that "move through populations in the same way as communicable diseases," spreading on their own "from host to host."

  In theory, self-spreading vaccines (also referred to as self-disseminating or autonomous) can be designed to be either transferable ("restricted to a single round of transmission") or transmissible ("capable of indefinite transmission)."Vaccine scientists concede transmissible vaccines "are still not mainstream, but the revolution in genome engineering poises them to become so."


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/self-spreading-vaccines-risks-to-society-informed-consent/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 08, 2021, 06:45:03 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 21, 2020, 05:02:24 PMThey tell us not to worry? Watch the 15 second video clip.

A suspected coronavirus patient is being transported to a hospital in China's Huizhou  #nCoV2019 (via
@jia_HKer
)


https://twitter.com/i/status/1219769338900746241

This was one of my very first posts on this crap that deserves answers. So, here's the question.

Did the CCP know they released a deadly virus? Or did they know what the were releasing was just another variation of the common cold/flu?

If accidental, why did they end their lockdown so abruptly while the rest of the world is still freaking out and not say a word?

If this was planned, they put on quite the show, locked an entire city down, brought in portable cremation centers and panicked the entire world.

Could it be that what they were working on was something far more deadly, but in the early stages of development, and when it escaped, they panicked, but tested the early results and figured out it wasn't really deadly, with the exception of the sick and elderly and the fact that the "NEW" vaccine sterilizes everyone it comes in contact with..

So no great loss, we commies won't have to support them, and now we need to lift the one Child Rule to three.
If we raise it too high, the world will become suspicious of our intentions.

These are the questions we've all been asking, but the one child rule reversal to 3 appears to expose these Commie Scum know something they aren't telling the rest of us and our own govt won't tell us the truth either so as to cover their own asses.

Proof? Fauci Lied!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on June 08, 2021, 06:58:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 08, 2021, 06:45:03 AMThis was one of my very first posts on this crap that deserves answers. So, here's the question.

Did the CCP know they released a deadly virus? Or did they know what the were releasing was just another variation of the common cold/flu?

If accidental, why did they end their lockdown so abruptly while the rest of the world is still freaking out and not say a word?

If this was planned, they put on quite the show, locked an entire city down, brought in portable cremation centers and panicked the entire world.

Could it be that what they were working on was something far more deadly, but in the early stages of development, and when it escaped, they panicked, but tested the early results and figured out it wasn't really deadly, with the exception of the sick and elderly and the fact that the "NEW" vaccine sterilizes everyone it comes in contact with..

So no great loss, we commies won't have to support them, and now we need to lift the one Child Rule to three.
If we raise it too high, the world will become suspicious of our intentions.

These are the questions we've all been asking, but the one child rule reversal to 3 appears to expose these Commie Scum know something they aren't telling the rest of us and our own govt won't tell us the truth either so as to cover their own asses.

Proof? Fauci Lied!
Two more questions I am more inclined now to believe. One, was a pandemic needed in order to allow mass mail in ballots, I am believing more and more that the democrats did not take advantage of the situation that was just a coincidence,  but were aware of what china was doing and were in on it, even to the point of providing cover for them.  and two, was a pandemic manufactured in order to get people worldwide to take a vaccine? In other words, was the whole point of the "pandemic" to inject people. One point I think we can agree on, what we first "knew" was what the lsm wanted us to know. Looking back at several of the early posts when this came out, only here was the top of the truth being looked at, I can not prove it, but I believe this forum was the first to call out b.s. on what the news was telling us.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 08, 2021, 07:11:55 AM
Quote from: Possum on June 08, 2021, 06:58:16 AMTwo more questions I am more inclined now to believe. One, was a pandemic needed in order to allow mass mail in ballots, I am believing more and more that the democrats did not take advantage of the situation that was just a coincidence,  but were aware of what china was doing and were in on it, even to the point of providing cover for them.  and two, was a pandemic manufactured in order to get people worldwide to take a vaccine? In other words, was the whole point of the "pandemic" to inject people. One point I think we can agree on, what we first "knew" was what the lsm wanted us to know. Looking back at several of the early posts when this came out, only here was the top of the truth being looked at, I can not prove it, but I believe this forum was the first to call out b.s. on what the news was telling us.
I remember when Trump included the CCP Flu in his SOTU speech while Fuglosi was pushing Impeachment.
They seemed to have been caught off guard at the time, but within the month they were all about not letting "a crisis go to waste" and ran with it.

I don't think they were in on it, but they definitely capitalized on it.

Magagator was young at the time, we were manually inserting breaking news, I was the first to broach the subject on the web, no one was even talking about the CCP Flu, it hadn't even hit here yet.

I can't really say I was the cause, but I did warn people to stock up on supplies, and I have no idea why I even said it, but I said "And Buy toilet paper", there will be supply shortages.

And then there was a run on TP. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on June 08, 2021, 07:16:24 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 08, 2021, 07:11:55 AMI remember when Trump included the CCP Flu in his SOTU speech while Fuglosi was pushing Impeachment.
They seemed to have been caught off guard at the time, but within the month they were all about not letting "a crisis go to waste" and ran with it.

I don't think they were in on it, but they definitely capitalized on it.

Magagator was young at the time, we were manually inserting breaking news, I was the first to broach the subject on the web, no one was even talking about the CCP Flu, it hadn't even hit here yet.

I can't really say I was the cause, but I did warn people to stock up on supplies, and I have no idea why I even said it, but I said "And Buy toilet paper", there will be supply shortages.

And then there was a run on TP. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
One thing we did learn, or should have, stores can not supply us during a panic.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 08, 2021, 07:23:14 AM
Quote from: Possum on June 08, 2021, 07:16:24 AMOne thing we did learn, or should have, stores can not supply us during a panic.
Yep, even their suppliers stated, stores can only stock for three days, that's how our system is designed.
Regardless, if there's a run on anything, it takes at a minimum to restock, so if there's a sudden interruption in the supply chain, you have one day to beat the rush on supplies when word gets out.

Like I said, I have no idea if I started the TP rush, or people went nuts all on their own.
But TP? WTF, and I don't even know why I mentioned it. :popcorn:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on June 08, 2021, 08:02:04 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 08, 2021, 07:23:14 AMYep, even their suppliers stated, stores can only stock for three days, that's how our system is designed.
Regardless, if there's a run on anything, it takes at a minimum to restock, so if there's a sudden interruption in the supply chain, you have one day to beat the rush on supplies when word gets out.

Like I said, I have no idea if I started the TP rush, or people went nuts all on their own.
But TP? WTF, and I don't even know why I mentioned it.
:popcorn:
Don't know, but I bet TP will be on every pandemic list from now on.  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 08, 2021, 08:04:13 AM
Quote from: Possum on June 08, 2021, 08:02:04 AMDon't know, but I bet TP will be on every pandemic list from now on.  :lol:
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Odd, it never was in the past. :popcorn:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 08, 2021, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 08, 2021, 06:45:03 AMThis was one of my very first posts on this crap that deserves answers. So, here's the question.

Did the CCP know they released a deadly virus? Or did they know what the were releasing was just another variation of the common cold/flu?

If accidental, why did they end their lockdown so abruptly while the rest of the world is still freaking out and not say a word?

If this was planned, they put on quite the show, locked an entire city down, brought in portable cremation centers and panicked the entire world.

Could it be that what they were working on was something far more deadly, but in the early stages of development, and when it escaped, they panicked, but tested the early results and figured out it wasn't really deadly, with the exception of the sick and elderly and the fact that the "NEW" vaccine sterilizes everyone it comes in contact with..

So no great loss, we commies won't have to support them, and now we need to lift the one Child Rule to three.
If we raise it too high, the world will become suspicious of our intentions.

These are the questions we've all been asking, but the one child rule reversal to 3 appears to expose these Commie Scum know something they aren't telling the rest of us and our own govt won't tell us the truth either so as to cover their own asses.

Proof? Fauci Lied!

I would have to see positive proof before I would believe that this was "accidental". That might be the Democrat narrative but, it isn't true. This was a bio weapon that was deliberately released on the world by China. It absolutely was an act of war. It absolutely was intended to disrupt, distract and fraudulently steal the Presidential election. I wouldn't even be surprised if it turns out that the Democrats were behind the whole fiasco in order to "justify" the fraud, the mail in ballots and to distract from their Dominion ties.

I also believe without a doubt that Fraudci was making millions of dollars off of the virus, the "vaccine" and the government money that Fraudci made certain was funneled to China and the Wuhan Lab.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 08, 2021, 02:11:32 PM
Quote from: RV on June 08, 2021, 01:58:54 PMI would have to see positive proof before I would believe that this was "accidental". That might be the Democrat narrative but, it isn't true. This was a bio weapon that was deliberately released on the world by China. It absolutely was an act of war. It absolutely was intended to disrupt, distract and fraudulently steal the Presidential election. I wouldn't even be surprised if it turns out that the Democrats were behind the whole fiasco in order to "justify" the fraud, the mail in ballots and to distract from their Dominion ties.

I also believe without a doubt that Fraudci was making millions of dollars off of the virus, the "vaccine" and the government money that Fraudci made certain was funneled to China and the Wuhan Lab.
Absolutely agree, but what if they were still perfecting it and wanted to wait a bit longer but a scientist released it early knowing it was nothing more than an unfinished bioweapon/Flu? Possibly saving millions of lives?

Yes, the Dims made it work in their favor, but they seemed caught off guard, and slow to react.
Trump spoke of it first while they were still plotting Impeachment.

I think Fauci and others in his inner circle knew the truth, and the Dims started backing Fauci only after they saw a chance to use it in their favor.
There is no doubt it was a Bio weapon attack on the entire globe...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on June 08, 2021, 11:24:07 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 08, 2021, 02:11:32 PMAbsolutely agree, but what if they were still perfecting it and wanted to wait a bit longer but a scientist released it early knowing it was nothing more than an unfinished bioweapon/Flu? Possibly saving millions of lives?

Yes, the Dims made it work in their favor, but they seemed caught off guard, and slow to react.
Trump spoke of it first while they were still plotting Impeachment.

I think Fauci and others in his inner circle knew the truth, and the Dims started backing Fauci only after they saw a chance to use it in their favor.
There is no doubt it was a Bio weapon attack on the entire globe...

I think that trump and Q have been planning for years now, however I think the deepstate plan of the great reset has been planned for decades and Q got started way back when the white hats discovered the original Great Reset plan.

My point being, Ill bet this virus or something like it has been planned for a long time as part of the great reset, however Trump won in 2016 throwing their whole plan out of wack and as 2020 got closer, they decided to spend this virus ammunition early, before they were fully ready or before The Great Reset plan called for it, in order to get trump.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 09, 2021, 05:20:13 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on June 08, 2021, 11:24:07 PMI think that trump and Q have been planning for years now, however I think the deepstate plan of the great reset has been planned for decades and Q got started way back when the white hats discovered the original Great Reset plan.

My point being, Ill bet this virus or something like it has been planned for a long time as part of the great reset, however Trump won in 2016 throwing their whole plan out of wack and as 2020 got closer, they decided to spend this virus ammunition early, before they were fully ready or before The Great Reset plan called for it, in order to get trump.
Agree...
Somewhere, deep in this thread is a security video of some woman on a CCP empty train in Wuhan opening a package and releasing something, looked like a gas or something.
It was considered connected to the CCP Flu at the time, nothing ever came of it, it is the CCP after all, but she was identified and kind of disappeared.
Then there's the Chinese female scientist who came out and confirmed they had created it, so we know the Wuhan lab is the epicenter.
What we don't know is whether or not the bioweapon was complete. Was it supposed to just kill the sick and elderly, in China, (population control) was it a seized upon moment by the Dims, we're these scum, including Fauci, planning on releasing the vaccine in order to enrich themselves?

Or did a scientist with a conscience release an unfinished product, knowing it wasn't ready, giving humanity another shot at life?

We do know Fauci is actually an idiot, that he really has no business in the position he's in.
Was he duped into believing he'd look like a savior for releasing the Jab after having invested heavily in it, did he know the Jab was the second part of the CCP Flu Bioweapon, that the Jab itself was designed as a population control method?

Point being, the CCP Flu was, in truth, impotent, and the only way to have an effect was to infect the elderly, a perfect solution for leftists politicians facing a budget shortfall, just wipe out those on deaths bed, win win all around, if you're a Dim without conscience, that is.

That part of the plan was a success, it caused people to panic, and panic makes people do really stupid things, like wear the badge of stupidity, a mask which has been proven to be ineffective, even the manufacturer has a warning on the box.
As if those in cahoots took advantage of the release anyway. I don't know, just posing the question.

The only reason that I believe it wasn't planned to get Trump specifically, was the fact that Trump was the first to mention it, as Fuglosi stood behind him ripping up his SOTU speech.
It's as if the left saw a crisis and didn't let it go to waste.
They didn't create it, Fauci thought he'd look good, and the added bonus was to make Trump out as the bad guy.

Remember, Trump was killing the CCP, they knew if they didn't do something drastic, Trump would rally the world against the commies.
These are all just pieces of an incomplete puzzle, I just hope we one day know the truth, that we can bring all the actors to justice, then execute them.

Was that the plan al along, for the CCP to cull their own population? They did after all, just recently drop the one child rule and boost it to three. So was it just for Chinese population control? The elderly contribute nothing in China, they're generally against war, and they only take funds from the State.

Sooo many questions...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 09, 2021, 06:04:19 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 09, 2021, 10:26:31 AM
Proof Fauci lied, and yes, it did come from the CCP.

EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak – who collaborated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology on research funded by Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease – appears to boast about the manipulation of "killer" SARS-like coronaviruses carried out by his "colleagues in China" in a clip unearthed by The National Pulse.
Daszak made the admission at a 2016 forum discussing "emerging infectious diseases and the next pandemic," which appears to be at odds with Fauci's repeated denial of funding gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

While describing how his organization sequences deadly viruses, Daszak describes the process of "insert[ing] spike proteins" into viruses to see if they can "bind to human cells" as being carried out by his "colleagues in China":

"Then when you get a sequence of a virus, and it looks like a relative of a known nasty pathogen, just like we did with SARS. We found other coronaviruses in bats, a whole host of them, some of them looked very similar to SARS. So we sequenced the spike protein: the protein that attaches to cells. Then we... Well I didn't do this work, but my colleagues in China did the work. You create pseudo particles, you insert the spike proteins from those viruses, see if they bind to human cells. At each step of this you move closer and closer to this virus could really become pathogenic in people.

"You end up with a small number of viruses that really do look like killers," he adds.

https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/daszak-reveals-chinese-colleagues-manipulating-coronaviruses/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 09, 2021, 10:31:06 AM
https://rumble.com/embed/vfosyv/?pub=isdal
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on June 09, 2021, 10:37:35 AM
Man was President trump right on so many things...and this was one of them.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 09, 2021, 10:54:30 AM
https://rumble.com/embed/vfot45/?pub=isdal
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 09, 2021, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: taxed on June 09, 2021, 10:54:30 AMhttps://rumble.com/embed/vfot45/?pub=isdal
I've been saying all along, this is just another flu, that these bogus tests only test as to whether or not you've been exposed to the common cold.
Until they are forced to release the DNA of this so called Covid19 pandemic, we'll never know the truth.

I was told by the hospital that I'd have to be tested before I can have surgery.
I plan on suing them for fraud and see where it takes me. Policy is tot law. They are pushing an illegal test and They will have a legal fight on their hands. I expect them to cave and allow the surgery to go through.
Title: Houston Nurses Protest After Losing Their Jobs For Refusing COVID-19 Shots
Post by: Solar on June 09, 2021, 12:43:45 PM
The hospital wrote:

""Mandating the vaccine was not a decision we made lightly. ... Because science has proven that the Covid-19 vaccines are not only safe, but extremely effective, it became an easier decision to make," Boom wrote in a letter to staff in April."

But if it's so safe, why this shit?

Bridges stated that the hospital attempted to "bribe" employees with cash and required those receiving the injection to sign a waiver stating they would not hold Methodist hospital liable if they were to experience an adverse reaction. She says that nurses who treated COVID-19 patients in 2020 are now treating patients who have had reactions to the shots.


Houston Nurses Protest After Losing Their Jobs For Refusing COVID-19 Shots

Houston – On Monday afternoon, employees of the Houston Methodist hospital system were joined by supporters from around the Houston area as they were suspended without pay for saying no to COVID-19 injections. The employees are now suing Houston Methodist in an effort to fight against COVID19 mandates.

The Houston Methodist hospital operates eight hospitals with more than 26,000 employees. On March 31, Methodist CEO Dr. Marc Boom announced that the shots – which have not received approval by the US Food and Drug Administration – would be mandatory for all employees.

https://twitter.com/HighWireTalk/status/1402602817429327873
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 09, 2021, 01:41:56 PM
Boone County judge orders permanent injunction against Gov. Beshear's COVID-19 orders

LEXINGTON, Ky. (WKYT) - Boone Circuit Judge Richard A. Brueggemann granted a permanent injunction against Gov. Andy Beshear's COVID-19 orders Tuesday.

The injunction would go into effect Thursday, June 10 at 5 p.m. Gov. Beshear has said all restrictions would lift on Friday, June 11, returning Kentucky to full capacity for all venues and events.

In a 30-page ruling, the judge said, "based upon the data presented, [lawmakers] argue that the measures imposed in Kentucky have had no appreciable effect when compared to other states" and "therefore, cannot justify continued imposition on an emergency basis."

You can read the full ruling below.

https://www.wkyt.com/2021/06/09/boone-county-judge-orders-permanent-injunction-against-gov-beshears-covid-19-orders/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 11, 2021, 08:24:32 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 11, 2021, 08:36:42 AM
Here's why the CCP is pushing so many corporations to go woke, They know they're running out of time and they also know Trump is coming back, sooner than they planned on. :lol:





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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 11, 2021, 11:17:37 AM
Not only was President Trump right about all of that but, he was also right about the Dems stealing the election!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 11, 2021, 08:12:06 PM
Here's what you didn't see on the LSM


https://www.bitchute.com/video/kXfEjziGbbjq/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 12, 2021, 06:27:41 PM
I was thinking about this today. Had HRC "won" the 2016 Presidential Election my bet would be that there NEVER would have been the Wuhan virus, election fraud, lockdowns, businesses closed, etc.

The ONLY reason that all this happened is because President Trump was elected by the people in 2016.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2021, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: RV on June 12, 2021, 06:27:41 PMI was thinking about this today. Had HRC "won" the 2016 Presidential Election my bet would be that there NEVER would have been the Wuhan virus, election fraud, lockdowns, businesses closed, etc.

The ONLY reason that all this happened is because President Trump was elected by the people in 2016.
Bingo!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on June 12, 2021, 08:37:59 PM
Quote from: RV on June 12, 2021, 06:27:41 PMI was thinking about this today. Had HRC "won" the 2016 Presidential Election my bet would be that there NEVER would have been the Wuhan virus, election fraud, lockdowns, businesses closed, etc.

The ONLY reason that all this happened is because President Trump was elected by the people in 2016.

Oh I definitely think they would have used those eventually as part of their Great Reset plan, but not for many more years, they werent ready yet. But you are right that they wouldnt have been used as part of the election.

I think those things probably took years to prepare and may not even have been fully ready when they used them, but trump forced them to fire off their ammunition early, thus wasting it. Just think of the power they would have had without trump and the Great Awakening. They could have used these to fully communize America.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 12, 2021, 08:55:06 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on June 12, 2021, 08:37:59 PMOh I definitely think they would have used those eventually as part of their Great Reset plan, but not for many more years, they werent ready yet. But you are right that they wouldnt have been used as part of the election.

I think those things probably took years to prepare and may not even have been fully ready when they used them, but trump forced them to fire off their ammunition early, thus wasting it. Just think of the power they would have had without trump and the Great Awakening. They could have used these to fully communize America.
Good point.
Trump forced their entire playbook all at once, they were forced to push their entire Marxist agenda all at once.
These people are stupid, now everyone knows exactly what they are, commies.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 13, 2021, 04:02:07 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on June 12, 2021, 08:37:59 PMOh I definitely think they would have used those eventually as part of their Great Reset plan, but not for many more years, they werent ready yet. But you are right that they wouldnt have been used as part of the election.

I think those things probably took years to prepare and may not even have been fully ready when they used them, but trump forced them to fire off their ammunition early, thus wasting it. Just think of the power they would have had without trump and the Great Awakening. They could have used these to fully communize America.

IMO, they did it on-schedule, probably figuring the MSM would completely overwhelm any competing news.
What they didn't count on, painting Donald Trump as incompetent, lying, crooked didn't work.  But, what DID really work, Anthony Fauchi.  Fauchi hit a grand slam for them.  Fauchi said it was gonna happen, had the plan well laid out, and "there's no better time like the present" to give it a trial run - which worked better than he could have imagined, Trump is sitting on the sidelines, they got a Globalist in the G7, it's almost as if the "bump in the road" never happened - TO THEM.

These old Commies are starting to age out.  They're gonna push one or another of the plans they got, no matter who is in office.  Fauchi's plan was brilliant, we (including Trump) initially fell for it, and even if it were some kind of contingency plan, it clarifies one thing, Government can & will enforce non-law during a pandemic & people will do the dirty work, respond as if it were *law*.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on June 13, 2021, 07:59:29 AM
Quote from: RV on June 12, 2021, 06:27:41 PMI was thinking about this today. Had HRC "won" the 2016 Presidential Election my bet would be that there NEVER would have been the Wuhan virus, election fraud, lockdowns, businesses closed, etc.

The ONLY reason that all this happened is because President Trump was elected by the people in 2016.
Never thought about it in that way  but you NAILED it.  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 14, 2021, 08:14:56 PM

https://t.me/QDisclosure17/15009

U.S. Government's Secret Experiments on Its Citizens
HORRIFYING FACTS

(1931) Cancer: The Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations infected human subjects with cancer cells. Dr. Cornelius Rhoads established the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama and began a series of radiation exposure experiments on patients in government and civilian hospitals.

(1932) Syphilis: In the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, two hundred black men diagnosed with syphilis were never told of their illness and were used as human guinea pigs in order to better understand the symptoms of the disease. None of the men received any kind of treatment, and only seventy-four survived.

(1935) Dietary deficiencies: Millions had died of pellagra, a dietary deficiency, in poverty-stricken black populations. The U.S. Public Health Service finally acted to curb the disease and admitted that it had known the causes of pellagra for more than two decades.

(1940) Malaria: In order to gauge the abilities of experimental drugs designed to fight malaria, four hundred prisoners in Chicago were infected with the disease.

(1942) Mustard gas: Four thousand servicemen, mostly Seventh-day Adventists who were conscientious objectors, served as human guinea pigs for mustard gas experiments.

(1947) Radioactive injections: The U.S. Atomic Energy Commission began administering intravenous doses of radioactive materials to human subjects.

(1947) Psychedelics: In its efforts to evaluate LSD as a potential weapon or truth serum, the Central Intelligence Agency administered dosages of the powerful hallucinogenic drug to human subjects, civilian and military, often without their knowledge or consent.

(1950) Radiation: With nuclear weapons still in their infancy, Department of Defense detonated nuclear devices in desert areas and then monitored unsuspecting civilians in cities downwind from the blasts for medical problems and mortality rates.

(1950) Bacteriological warfare: The U.S. Navy sprayed a cloud of bacteria over San Francisco to test how a large city would respond to more lethal biological attacks. Many residents became ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

(1955) Biological agents: In an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, the Central Intelligence Agency released bacteria in the Tampa, Florida, area.

(1956) Yellow fever: Mosquitoes infected with yellow fever were released over Savannah, Georgia, and Avon Park, Florida. U.S. Army disease specialists, posing as public health officials, test area residents for effects.

(1965) Dioxin: Inmates at Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia were dosed with dioxin, the toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Vietnam.

(1966) Germ warfare: More than a million civilians were exposed to germ warfare when U.S. Army scientists dropped light bulbs filled with bacteria onto ventilation grates throughout the New York City subway system.

(1977) Contamination: Senate hearings revealed that between 1949 and 1969, 239 highly populated areas, including San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City (Florida), Minneapolis, and St. Louis, had been contaminated with biological agents.

(1978) Hepatitis B: The Centers for Disease Control asked specifically for promiscuous homosexual males when it tested an experimental hepatitis B vaccine in New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. Three years later, in those same cities, the first cases of AIDS were confirmed in homosexual men.

(1990) Measles: The Centers for Disease Control inoculated more than 1,500 six-month-old black and Hispanic babies in Los Angeles against measles. Later, the center confessed that the vaccine was experimental.

(1995) Biological agents: Evidence surfaced that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, Texas, and Boca Raton, Florida, and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.

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So, testing "vaccines" on an unsuspecting (trusting) public is nothing new. Only the scope of the attack is just far greater.

For those who got the JAB:

Were they told it was experimental?

Were they told it was not approved?

Were they told what was in the concoction to be injected?

Was it made clear that as a volunteer, their life insurance would not pay their families should they die?

Were they told that a senior official of the World Health Organization stated that, "No vaccine has ever worked."

Were the told the death toll from the JAB would be much higher than from COVID?

Were they told about shedding which could transmit JAB CONTENTS to others?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 15, 2021, 04:38:55 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 14, 2021, 08:14:56 PMhttps://t.me/QDisclosure17/15009

So, testing "vaccines" on an unsuspecting (trusting) public is nothing new. Only the scope of the attack is just far greater.

For those who got the JAB:

Were they told it was experimental?

Were they told it was not approved?

Were they told what was in the concoction to be injected?

Was it made clear that as a volunteer, their life insurance would not pay their families should they die?

Were they told that a senior official of the World Health Organization stated that, "No vaccine has ever worked."

Were the told the death toll from the JAB would be much higher than from COVID?

Were they told about shedding which could transmit JAB CONTENTS to others?

The answer in EVERY case is NO! The Democrat/CCP narrative would never allow the truth to mess with the propaganda that is being pushed out. Doctor Fauci, you got some 'splaining to do!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 15, 2021, 04:59:16 AM
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Title: California's digital VAX system
Post by: Hoofer on June 15, 2021, 05:11:32 AM
https://www.kcra.com/article/electronic-version-covid-vaccine-cards-california/36719579#

"Last week, Dr. Mark Ghaly, California's top health official, said that businesses have a few different options:

 *   Ask customers if they are fully vaccinated so they can go without masks, but no proof is needed. It is essentially an honor system that relies on customers self-attesting their vaccination status.
 *   Ask customers to prove they are fully vaccinated so they can go without masks.
 *   Require all customers to continue wearing masks regardless of whether or not they're vaccinated.

The electronic vaccine card system would seem to address that second option for businesses looking to have customers prove vaccination status."

-----snip-----
Newsome said: "It's not a passport. It's not a requirement. It's just the ability now to have an electronic version of that paper version," he said. "And so you'll hear more about that in the next couple of days."

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Socialism = sure, you can own a business, but.... we're gonna tell you how you can run it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 15, 2021, 05:40:25 AM
Quote from: RV on June 15, 2021, 04:38:55 AMThe answer in EVERY case is NO! The Democrat/CCP narrative would never allow the truth to mess with the propaganda that is being pushed out. Doctor Fauci, you got some 'splaining to do!
Pretty disgusting isn't it. I can't wait for the perp walks.
Title: Re: California's digital VAX system
Post by: RV on June 15, 2021, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 15, 2021, 05:11:32 AMhttps://www.kcra.com/article/electronic-version-covid-vaccine-cards-california/36719579#

"Last week, Dr. Mark Ghaly, California's top health official, said that businesses have a few different options:

 *  Ask customers if they are fully vaccinated so they can go without masks, but no proof is needed. It is essentially an honor system that relies on customers self-attesting their vaccination status.
 *  Ask customers to prove they are fully vaccinated so they can go without masks.
 *  Require all customers to continue wearing masks regardless of whether or not they're vaccinated.

The electronic vaccine card system would seem to address that second option for businesses looking to have customers prove vaccination status."

-----snip-----
Newsome said: "It's not a passport. It's not a requirement. It's just the ability now to have an electronic version of that paper version," he said. "And so you'll hear more about that in the next couple of days."

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Socialism = sure, you can own a business, but.... we're gonna tell you how you can run it.

You know every word that comes out of Newsome's mouth just makes me MORE happy and glad that we left Commiefornia after I was born. If there are any sane people left in the Communist state of Commiefornia, I would strongly urge them to leave IMMEDIATELY!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 16, 2021, 08:43:09 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 16, 2021, 09:33:00 AM
"huge concentrations of Spike Proteins" means what?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 16, 2021, 09:41:48 AM
Quote from: RV on June 16, 2021, 09:33:00 AM"huge concentrations of Spike Proteins" means what?
That the mRNA is destroying the human body by laterally rewriting your DNA.
They played God without the manual, they had no idea what the consequences would be, they used man in place of the lab rat.

Nor did they set a time limit on the Jab, it never shuts off. These people will die within 5 years.

The JAB was the rue bioweapon.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 16, 2021, 09:46:56 AM
Like all petulant toddlers, Libs refuse to give up their Binkies/Masks. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

There are two videos at the link, both ridiculous in their own right.
The first is a guy refusing to wear a mask and gets attacked by a mentally disturbed ACE hardware lib employee.

The second is the one to watch, Ami Horowitz exposes just how manipulated libs are by their TV.
It's all about "Feelings".
Don't miss it. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


https://www.newswars.com/mask-nazis-spark-violent-fistfight-at-a-seattle-hardware-store-video/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2021, 06:52:00 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2021, 06:56:11 PM
https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1405192427967746054
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 17, 2021, 07:28:52 PM
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...and Cuomo, and Pelosi, and Schumer, and Holder, and Obama, and HRC, and Nadler, etc., etc., etc. Apparently there is a justice system for Republicans and a separate system with completely different laws, rules and standards for Democrats.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on June 17, 2021, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: RV on June 17, 2021, 07:28:52 PM...and Cuomo, and Pelosi, and Schumer, and Holder, and Obama, and HRC, and Nadler, etc., etc., etc. Apparently there is a justice system for Republicans and a separate system with completely different laws, rules and standards for Democrats.

That's why it will be so fun once we get our election system back.  First the election system, then arrests.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 17, 2021, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: taxed on June 17, 2021, 06:56:11 PMhttps://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1405192427967746054
Libs claim they love science, but they hate scientists. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 23, 2021, 12:40:40 PM
Dan Bongino has some interesting takes on Wuhan Flu (about 10min mark).
Where is this Chinese Spy?

Is the spy still in China (the Wuhan flu secrets are safe)
Is the China Spy in the USA, but, but, rather than allow further evidence Trump was proven right (again), ship the Spy back to china.... (rather than admit Trump was RIGHT!).

So where is the spy...?

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1069-the-dan-bongino-show-28888454/episode/the-china-spy-story-erupts-where-84032267/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 23, 2021, 01:47:37 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 23, 2021, 12:40:40 PMDan Bongino has some interesting takes on Wuhan Flu (about 10min mark).
Where is this Chinese Spy?

Is the spy still in China (the Wuhan flu secrets are safe)
Is the China Spy in the USA, but, but, rather than allow further evidence Trump was proven right (again), ship the Spy back to china.... (rather than admit Trump was RIGHT!).

So where is the spy...?

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1069-the-dan-bongino-show-28888454/episode/the-china-spy-story-erupts-where-84032267/
Just throwing it out there...
But could our MI be hiding him from the Biteme Resident?
We had him during Trump stint, just saying...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 23, 2021, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 23, 2021, 01:47:37 PMJust throwing it out there...
But could our MI be hiding him from the Biteme Resident?
We had him during Trump stint, just saying...

Per Bongino, you'd get the impression, Biden would surrender him to the CCP in a split second to CYA.
When I heard that - it's pretty obvious the CCP is pulling the Biden strings.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 23, 2021, 02:34:02 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 23, 2021, 02:30:23 PMPer Bongino, you'd get the impression, Biden would surrender him to the CCP in a split second to CYA.
When I heard that - it's pretty obvious the CCP is pulling the Biden strings.
Yep, which is why I think we're hiding him. He knows way too much to have assassinated.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 23, 2021, 09:02:34 PM
Folks, this movie puts John Wick to shame. It's called the cure, a play on the CCP bioweapon.
I guarantee you won't have a dull moment, 36 minutes of action packed Hell.

If anyone can find it on another platform beside youtube, post it and I'll replace it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdxPlbKFkaM
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on June 24, 2021, 04:09:31 AM
More news that we have been had. https://truthbasedmedia.com/2021/06/24/massive-coverup-of-ivermectins-efficacy-demonstrates-an-evil-agenda-is-driving-everything/

QuoteIn June 2020, a study also found ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro, with a single treatment leading to a 5,000-fold reduction in virus after 48 hours.14 What's more, the drug is available over-the-counter in some countries, such as France, and 3.7 billion doses have been administered in the last 40 years, with serious side effects extremely rare.15

QuoteLest we forget, one of the requirements of the Emergency Use Authorization that makes distribution of the vaccines legal without FDA approval is that there cannot be a readily available and sufficiently effective treatment already on the market. This more than anything else is why Ivermectin and other drugs such as Hydroxychloroquine have been so vehemently opposed and utterly suppressed. If they're proven to be effective, the vaccine train comes to a screeching halt before the Powers and Principalities achieve their goals.

It is past time to bring all of this into the open. I hope Trump starts following the money as soon as he is back in office.
Title: ‘Good doctors are doing unthinkable things’ …They ‘appear to be under a spell’
Post by: Bronx on June 24, 2021, 04:59:02 AM
I don't know where to post this since it's a medical article about COVID-19 treatment and vaccines, it's a MUST read article.

My wife and I was talking about just this when our doctor said we should get the COVID jab. Out of three doctors we see regular only my  Endocrinologist said......"we just don't know" to many of the questions asked.

'Good doctors are doing unthinkable things' ...They 'appear to be under a spell'

The most highly cited physician on the early treatment of COVID-19 has come out with an explosive new video that blows the lid off the medical establishment's complicity in the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of Americans.

Dr. Peter McCullough said these deaths have been facilitated by a false narrative bent on pushing an all-new, unproven vaccine for a disease that was highly treatable.

He said COVID was a bioweapon and the vaccines represent "phase two" of that bioweapon.

 

"As this, in a sense, bioterrorism phase one was rolled out, it was really all about keeping the population in fear and in isolation and preparing them to accept the vaccine, which appears to be phase two of a bioterrorism operation," McCullough said in a June 11 webinar with German attorney Reiner Fuellmich and several other doctors.

He noted:

"Both the respiratory virus and the vaccine delivered to the human body the spike protein, the gain of function target of this bioterrorism research."

Most of McCullough's comments come in the first 10 minutes of the below video.

"Now I can't come out and say all this on national TV today or at any time," he continued. "But, what we had learned over time is that we could no longer communicate with government agencies. We actually couldn't even communicate with our propagandized colleagues in major medical centers, all of which appear to be under a spell, almost as if they are hypnotized right now."

READ MORE HERE.....
https://www.worldviewweekend.com/news/article/behind-vaccine-veil-doctor-cites-whistleblowers-inside-cdc-who-claim-injections-have
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 24, 2021, 05:37:38 AM
Quote from: Possum on June 24, 2021, 04:09:31 AMMore news that we have been had. https://truthbasedmedia.com/2021/06/24/massive-coverup-of-ivermectins-efficacy-demonstrates-an-evil-agenda-is-driving-everything/

It is past time to bring all of this into the open. I hope Trump starts following the money as soon as he is back in office.
Fascinating.
When I was running cattle we had a full on supply of Ivermectin at our disposal.
I was told by the vet that it specifically targets the carriers of disease, ticks, leeches, horse flies, that when the bite, they transmit disease, like ticks do with lyme disease which is a Spirochaete that lives in the mandibles of the tick and excreted to the host it attaches to, and the Spirochaete carries its own variety of germs as well.

Point being, this points fingers at the CCP bioweapon as not being a virus, that they aren't letting anyone see, but possible some sort parasite?
Title: Re: ‘Good doctors are doing unthinkable things’ …They ‘appear to be under a spell’
Post by: Solar on June 24, 2021, 05:53:32 AM
Quote from: Bronx on June 24, 2021, 04:59:02 AMI don't know where to post this since it's a medical article about COVID-19 treatment and vaccines
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I have an idea... :laugh:

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on June 24, 2021, 06:53:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 24, 2021, 05:37:38 AMFascinating.
When I was running cattle we had a full on supply of Ivermectin at our disposal.
I was told by the vet that it specifically targets the carriers of disease, ticks, leeches, horse flies, that when the bite, they transmit disease, like ticks do with lyme disease which is a Spirochaete that lives in the mandibles of the tick and excreted to the host it attaches to, and the Spirochaete carries its own variety of germs as well.

Point being, this points fingers at the CCP bioweapon as not being a virus, that they aren't letting anyone see, but possible some sort parasite?
There will never be a time again where I will trust the government or the news media unless we allow Trump to clean house. We were lied to, cheated on, drugs that could have prevented deaths were not allowed, the libs used the opportunity to fraud their way into the whitehouse, etc. Can you imagine how much money could have been saved had these drugs been allowed? 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 24, 2021, 07:15:40 AM
Quote from: Possum on June 24, 2021, 06:53:10 AMThere will never be a time again where I will trust the government or the news media unless we allow Trump to clean house. We were lied to, cheated on, drugs that could have prevented deaths were not allowed, the libs used the opportunity to fraud their way into the whitehouse, etc. Can you imagine how much money could have been saved had these drugs been allowed?
Yep, and it was all part of the plan to destroy trust in the govt while bankrupting the biggest economy in the world.
If we collapsed, the entire world would have been in turmoil. Enter New World order.
Thank God they failed because we have a leader willing to call out their bull shit.
Title: Re: ‘Good doctors are doing unthinkable things’ …They ‘appear to be under a spell’
Post by: Bronx on June 24, 2021, 07:20:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 24, 2021, 05:53:32 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I have an idea... :laugh:

https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/wuflu/

Yep...I guess I blew that one........ :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Great article
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 24, 2021, 08:50:12 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 23, 2021, 09:02:34 PMFolks, this movie puts John Wick to shame. It's called the cure, a play on the CCP bioweapon.
I guarantee you won't have a dull moment, 36 minutes of action packed Hell.

If anyone can find it on another platform beside youtube, post it and I'll replace it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdxPlbKFkaM

Just to add more information. The film is called "The Cure" so if anyone wants to search for it on other platforms, that is probably what you will need to search for.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 24, 2021, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: RV on June 24, 2021, 08:50:12 AMJust to add more information. The film is called "The Cure" so if anyone wants to search for it on other platforms, that is probably what you will need to search for.
I tried, but it appears IMBD requires registration, but they have it.
Did you watch it?
Title: Re: ‘Good doctors are doing unthinkable things’ …They ‘appear to be under a spell’
Post by: T Hunt on June 24, 2021, 10:27:31 AM
Quote from: Bronx on June 24, 2021, 04:59:02 AMI don't know where to post this since it's a medical article about COVID-19 treatment and vaccines, it's a MUST read article.

My wife and I was talking about just this when our doctor said we should get the COVID jab. Out of three doctors we see regular only my  Endocrinologist said......"we just don't know" to many of the questions asked.

'Good doctors are doing unthinkable things' ...They 'appear to be under a spell'

The most highly cited physician on the early treatment of COVID-19 has come out with an explosive new video that blows the lid off the medical establishment's complicity in the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of Americans.

Dr. Peter McCullough said these deaths have been facilitated by a false narrative bent on pushing an all-new, unproven vaccine for a disease that was highly treatable.

He said COVID was a bioweapon and the vaccines represent "phase two" of that bioweapon.

 

"As this, in a sense, bioterrorism phase one was rolled out, it was really all about keeping the population in fear and in isolation and preparing them to accept the vaccine, which appears to be phase two of a bioterrorism operation," McCullough said in a June 11 webinar with German attorney Reiner Fuellmich and several other doctors.

He noted:

"Both the respiratory virus and the vaccine delivered to the human body the spike protein, the gain of function target of this bioterrorism research."

Most of McCullough's comments come in the first 10 minutes of the below video.

"Now I can't come out and say all this on national TV today or at any time," he continued. "But, what we had learned over time is that we could no longer communicate with government agencies. We actually couldn't even communicate with our propagandized colleagues in major medical centers, all of which appear to be under a spell, almost as if they are hypnotized right now."

READ MORE HERE.....
https://www.worldviewweekend.com/news/article/behind-vaccine-veil-doctor-cites-whistleblowers-inside-cdc-who-claim-injections-have

They really do seem to be under a spell. If its not actual satanic magic, then I would say the 'spell' they are under is an absolute reliance and unquestioning trust in the medical institutions. They have been brainwashed into total compliance. If its not peer reviewed then its not real. AND THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SOME OF THE SMARTEST AMONG US!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 28, 2021, 07:53:35 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 29, 2021, 07:25:36 AM
Apparetntly, the China vaccine isn't going over too good.   They made a ton of money, and people are dropping like flies.


This the Wuhan Flu Vaccine... what about the other DRUGS  that China makes for the USA?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 29, 2021, 09:28:27 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 29, 2021, 09:44:12 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on June 30, 2021, 07:19:54 AM
Our  governors emergency  powers end at  midnight  tonight. Va is safe  for  now
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on June 30, 2021, 07:22:05 AM
Florida  vs Los Angeles

https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1409944893561004033
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 30, 2021, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on June 30, 2021, 07:22:05 AMFlorida  vs Los Angeles

https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1409944893561004033

No doubt the media in Commiefornia is scuttling the truth and only "reporting" 24/7 what the Newsome administration wants them to. The gullible haven't a clue what the truth is, they only listen to the liberal media and believe what the MSM wants them to.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 30, 2021, 12:58:00 PM
Quote from: RV on June 30, 2021, 12:06:40 PMNo doubt the media in Commiefornia is scuttling the truth and only "reporting" 24/7 what the Newsome administration wants them to. The gullible haven't a clue what the truth is, they only listen to the liberal media and believe what the MSM wants them to.
Not here in Ca. The entire state is sick of Nancy's Marxist nephew and the shit he's pulled.
Just the La area alone despises how he's inflicted the homeless on them, even the rich areas didn't escape, and that doesn't even cover the crime issue.
Nah, he's found something to piss off every group in Ca, lib or otherwise.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 30, 2021, 03:39:27 PM
Jim Jordan is my hero.
https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/republican-jim-jordan-calls-out-dr-fauci-in-fiery-rant/video/fd7c07c5e70f0f8230775e08c762ae26 (https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/republican-jim-jordan-calls-out-dr-fauci-in-fiery-rant/video/fd7c07c5e70f0f8230775e08c762ae26)

This stuff simply is NOT being covered in the USA media - like it never happened.  Fauchi knew everything.

"Mr Jordan explains within 13 hours of Dr Fauci receiving an email from virologist Kristian Andersen in February 2020 – coupled with other email exchanges – he knew five "important facts".

"First Dr Fauci knows there's a lethal virus on the loose that started in Wuhan China," he said.

"Second he knows the American taxpayers have funded gain of function research in Wuhan China.

"Third he knows that the research grant didn't go through the required oversight board.

"Fourth he knows the virus 'looks engineered' and 'not consistent' with evolutionary theory.

"And finally fifth Dr Fauci knows he may have ties to this work in China.

"His fingerprints in fact may be on this."

Republican lawmakers – led by House Minority Whip Steve Scalise – held a hearing to discuss the origins of COVID-19."
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 30, 2021, 03:49:44 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 30, 2021, 03:39:27 PMJim Jordan is my hero.
https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/republican-jim-jordan-calls-out-dr-fauci-in-fiery-rant/video/fd7c07c5e70f0f8230775e08c762ae26 (https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/republican-jim-jordan-calls-out-dr-fauci-in-fiery-rant/video/fd7c07c5e70f0f8230775e08c762ae26)

This stuff simply is NOT being covered in the USA media - like it never happened.  Fauchi knew everything.

"Mr Jordan explains within 13 hours of Dr Fauci receiving an email from virologist Kristian Andersen in February 2020 – coupled with other email exchanges – he knew five "important facts".

"First Dr Fauci knows there's a lethal virus on the loose that started in Wuhan China," he said.

"Second he knows the American taxpayers have funded gain of function research in Wuhan China.

"Third he knows that the research grant didn't go through the required oversight board.

"Fourth he knows the virus 'looks engineered' and 'not consistent' with evolutionary theory.

"And finally fifth Dr Fauci knows he may have ties to this work in China.

"His fingerprints in fact may be on this."

Republican lawmakers – led by House Minority Whip Steve Scalise – held a hearing to discuss the origins of COVID-19."
This is exactly why the LSM dropped him as the spokesman and figurehead of their Marxist movement to destroy humanity.
He exposed their CCP plot inadvertently.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on June 30, 2021, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 30, 2021, 03:49:44 PMThis is exactly why the LSM dropped him as the spokesman and figurehead of their Marxist movement to destroy humanity.
He exposed their CCP plot inadvertently.

Hmmm... Dr. Fauchi is assisting in his own suicide - I don't know how he could lie with such boldness, and try to continue, after such damning evidence!  Fauchi might not kill himself, but, his emails sure are!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on June 30, 2021, 04:18:46 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 30, 2021, 04:09:58 PMHmmm... Dr. Fauchi is assisting in his own suicide - I don't know how he could lie with such boldness, and try to continue, after such damning evidence!  Fauchi might not kill himself, but, his emails sure are!

Who knows he may be next to commit suicide.  Fauchi know too much and is no longer useful.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on June 30, 2021, 04:20:43 PM

Fauci should  be  in prison
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on June 30, 2021, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 30, 2021, 04:09:58 PMHmmm... Dr. Fauchi is assisting in his own suicide - I don't know how he could lie with such boldness, and try to continue, after such damning evidence!  Fauchi might not kill himself, but, his emails sure are!
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on June 30, 2021, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on June 30, 2021, 04:20:43 PMFauci should  be  in prison

I absolutely agree! Fauci should be not only in prison but, the tens of thousands of people that his virus and "vaccines" have killed and who have lost businesses and employment have a right to hold him personally accountable! This whole fiasco is a travesty and was all done to get President Trump and his supporters.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on June 30, 2021, 07:54:42 PM
Quote from: RV on June 30, 2021, 07:28:01 PMI absolutely agree! Fauci should be not only in prison but, the tens of thousands of people that his virus and "vaccines" have killed and who have lost businesses and employment have a right to hold him personally accountable! This whole fiasco is a travesty and was all done to get President Trump and his supporters.

OLNLY if put in the prison population.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on June 30, 2021, 09:14:08 PM
Quote from: walkstall on June 30, 2021, 04:18:46 PMWho knows he may be next to commit suicide.  Fauchi know too much and is no longer useful.

When all these bad guys start 'killing themselves' it will be hard to tell which are actual suicides due to shame and being caught and which are being suicided to keep them from talking.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: yrunvs on July 01, 2021, 03:42:02 AM
Quote from: RV on June 30, 2021, 07:28:01 PMI absolutely agree! Fauci should be not only in prison but, the tens of thousands of people that his virus and "vaccines" have killed and who have lost businesses and employment have a right to hold him personally accountable! This whole fiasco is a travesty and was all done to get President Trump and his supporters.

It's much much bigger then that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 01, 2021, 04:54:48 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on June 29, 2021, 07:25:36 AMApparetntly, the China vaccine isn't going over too good.  They made a ton of money, and people are dropping like flies.


This the Wuhan Flu Vaccine... what about the other DRUGS  that China makes for the USA?

There's no doubt in my mind that China has been waging bio-warfare for years against the American people. Many are just to gullible or too stupid to realize it. The MSM and many Americans have never even considered why China wanted Bejing Biden for President.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 01, 2021, 06:20:59 AM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2021, 04:54:48 AMThere's no doubt in my mind that China has been waging bio-warfare for years against the American people. Many are just to gullible or too stupid to realize it. The MSM and many Americans have never even considered why China wanted Bejing Biden for President.
We understand why, but in all honestly, there were any number of democrats to pick from who are more than willing to do china's bidding. I can not understand why they picked such a demented old fool. Is it Jill they wanted?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on July 02, 2021, 05:24:03 AM
Quote from: RV on July 01, 2021, 04:54:48 AMThere's no doubt in my mind that China has been waging bio-warfare for years against the American people. Many are just to gullible or too stupid to realize it. The MSM and many Americans have never even considered why China wanted Bejing Biden for President.
Every Democracy/Republic is at peace between wars - China is continually at war, never taking a rest.
We are fools for not guiding foreign policy with that in mind.  CCP moves slowly at times, big jumps sometimes, but never stops moving towards conquest/conversion to Communism.

I have NO DOUBT, China engineered-weaponized a special brew of Wuhan Flu for India.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Hoofer on July 02, 2021, 08:12:57 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 03, 2021, 08:12:47 AM
Remember folks in order for the COVID-19 vaccines to be placed in the emergency status of usage without the FDA approval there could be no other options like Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19.

Now you know why everyone and I mean everyone is so against these two drugs. Now you know why the democrats, the press, the World Health Organization, etc, etc where so set against President Trump for even saying the word Hydroxychloroquine because if the medical field was to prove that Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin worked they couldn't give any of the COVID-19 vaccines the emergency status of usage.


Can you say 'ivermectin' in the USA?

Ivory Hecker, an astute and brave local Fox reporter, interviewed Dr. Joseph Varon, despite Fox threatening her job if the unedited interview went live.  It's worth listening to in its entirety, but here's some of what it says.

It's certainly not the first time Dr. Varon's been interviewed.  He's talked with the media 1,640 times, including Hecker's interview.  The first 1,639 interviews were edited to exclude specific information about his successes in treating hospitalized COVID patients.

This doctor is certainly no quack.  He's chief of staff at United Memorial Medical Center in Houston, Texas.  He invented the MATH+ protocol for treatment, and his death rate has consistently been far less than half that of other hospitals, even a third compared to many.  Back in the beginning, when he was able to include hydroxychloroquine in his formula, his death rate was close to 4%, as opposed to around 20% in other hospitals.

Hecker interviewed several of his patients for the piece.  One, a urologist from a hospital on the other side of Texas, was airlifted (at his own request) to Dr. Varon.  He described how thankful he was to have gone from desperate and dying, with nearly no lung capacity, to healthy.  He was clearly robust, despite his COVID experience.  He says his improvement began "within hours" of starting the protocol.


Dr. Varon clearly states that "there's no reason for patients to die.  We have options, we just have to make those options available."

READ MORE HERE...
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/07/can_you_say_ivermectin_in_the_usa.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 05, 2021, 07:11:17 AM
Slovakia Was the First European Union Nation to Approve Ivermectin as a COVID-19 Treatment – Guess What Happened Next

https://welovetrump.com/2021/07/05/slovakia-was-the-first-european-union-nation-to-approve-ivermectin-as-a-covid-19-treatment-guess-what-happened-next/?utm_source=PTN&utm_medium=mixed&utm_campaign=PTN
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 05, 2021, 07:31:21 AM
Quote from: Bronx on July 05, 2021, 07:11:17 AMSlovakia Was the First European Union Nation to Approve Ivermectin as a COVID-19 Treatment – Guess What Happened Next

https://welovetrump.com/2021/07/05/slovakia-was-the-first-european-union-nation-to-approve-ivermectin-as-a-covid-19-treatment-guess-what-happened-next/?utm_source=PTN&utm_medium=mixed&utm_campaign=PTN
Proof the Marxist narrative is failing around the globe. :thumbup: 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 05, 2021, 11:24:52 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2021, 07:31:21 AMProof the Marxist narrative is failing around the globe. :thumbup:

The Marxist narrative may be failing around the globe but, not before millions of people have been murdered by the lack of treatment, bogus "vaccines", bogus "statistics", global coercion of medical doctors, corruption of the CDC and the NIH, intentional infection of retirement homes, intentional infection of hospitals and nursing facilities, tax payer funding of biological warfare and intentional manipulation of the MSM. Just to name a few...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 05, 2021, 11:30:27 AM
Quote from: RV on July 05, 2021, 11:24:52 AMThe Marxist narrative may be failing around the globe but, not before millions of people have been murdered by the lack of treatment, bogus "vaccines", bogus "statistics", global coercion of medical doctors, corruption of the CDC and the NIH, intentional infection of retirement homes, intentional infection of hospitals and nursing facilities, tax payer funding of biological warfare and intentional manipulation of the MSM. Just to name a few...
Exactly the point!
The world is waking to the fact all these corporations and govt entities have been lying for monetary personal gain and the new world order, and it's why they so badly need our strength as a Nation to bring it to a halt.

They don't seem capable of doing it on their own and with so many European states backing NWO, the current is against the free world.
I can't wait until Trump returns and exposes all the corruption, the rest will fall in line.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 05, 2021, 01:25:44 PM
My advice to all here at CPF....ask you doctor how they are treating their Covid-19 patients. Not the hospitals but your actual family doctor. I asked mine here in Georgia and he said we don't send our patients to the hospital or tell them to shelter in place for two weeks....we treat them with....you guess it Ivermectin.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 05, 2021, 05:26:37 PM
Might I remind the army that this is illegal. :glare:


The Army has directed commands to prepare to administer mandatory COVID-19 vaccines as early as Sept. 1, pending full Food and Drug Administration licensure, Army Times has learned.

The directive came from an execute order sent to the force by Department of the Army Headquarters.

Army Times obtained a portion of a recent update to HQDA EXORD 225-21, COVID-19 Steady State Operations.

"Commanders will continue COVID-19 vaccination operations and prepare for a directive to mandate COVID-19 vaccination for service members [on or around] 01 September 2021, pending full FDA licensure," the order said. "Commands will be prepared to provide a backbrief on servicemember vaccination status and way ahead for completion once the vaccine is mandated."

https://www.armytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/07/01/prepare-for-mandatory-covid-vaccines-in-september-army-tells-commands/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 05, 2021, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2021, 05:26:37 PMMight I remind the army that this is illegal. :glare:


The Army has directed commands to prepare to administer mandatory COVID-19 vaccines as early as Sept. 1, pending full Food and Drug Administration licensure, Army Times has learned.

The directive came from an execute order sent to the force by Department of the Army Headquarters.

Army Times obtained a portion of a recent update to HQDA EXORD 225-21, COVID-19 Steady State Operations.

"Commanders will continue COVID-19 vaccination operations and prepare for a directive to mandate COVID-19 vaccination for service members [on or around] 01 September 2021, pending full FDA licensure," the order said. "Commands will be prepared to provide a backbrief on servicemember vaccination status and way ahead for completion once the vaccine is mandated."

https://www.armytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/07/01/prepare-for-mandatory-covid-vaccines-in-september-army-tells-commands/

Yes, you are absolutely correct that this is illegal. Election fraud was illegal. The payment of tax dollars to China to illegally fund a bio-weapon was illegal. Lying about a President for political purposes is illegal. The "mandatory vaccination" is illegal. Deliberately misdirecting and misinforming the public is illegal. Censoring certain viewpoints, (aka TRUTH), is illegal. Communicating a false narrative and lying on public media is illegal. Promoting hatred of certain segments of the population is illegal. Advocating and calling for violence of Conservatives is illegal. Destroying public property is illegal. Calling for the removal of law enforcement and for law enforcement to be replaced by force with anarchy is illegal. Forcing the ideology that the Constitution is a "living document" is illegal. There are MANY things that Dems do that are illegal but, they do them anyway AND they seem to get away with them.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 05, 2021, 08:56:02 PM
Quote from: RV on July 05, 2021, 06:24:24 PMYes, you are absolutely correct that this is illegal. Election fraud was illegal. The payment of tax dollars to China to illegally fund a bio-weapon was illegal. Lying about a President for political purposes is illegal. The "mandatory vaccination" is illegal. Deliberately misdirecting and misinforming the public is illegal. Censoring certain viewpoints, (aka TRUTH), is illegal. Communicating a false narrative and lying on public media is illegal. Promoting hatred of certain segments of the population is illegal. Advocating and calling for violence of Conservatives is illegal. Destroying public property is illegal. Calling for the removal of law enforcement and for law enforcement to be replaced by force with anarchy is illegal. Forcing the ideology that the Constitution is a "living document" is illegal. There are MANY things that Dems do that are illegal but, they do them anyway AND they seem to get away with them.
If they go down that road, the left violates the Geneva Convention. This will carry irreparable damage globally.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 07, 2021, 05:54:37 AM
Quote from: Bronx on July 05, 2021, 01:25:44 PMMy advice to all here at CPF....ask you doctor how they are treating their Covid-19 patients. Not the hospitals but your actual family doctor. I asked mine here in Georgia and he said we don't send our patients to the hospital or tell them to shelter in place for two weeks....we treat them with....you guess it Ivermectin.

So, on the record, you have a doctor that gives Ivermectin.

lol ...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I got the standard shots, now the moon is out of orbit due to the magnetic properties of the shot, I am sterile (may have to do with that vasectomy), and my right big toe is rotting.

The hysteria makes me worry about the 12 and under gang.  Kids are pretty resilient, just hate to lose them due to misinformation.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 07, 2021, 06:13:43 AM
https://thelibertydaily.com/tucker-carlson-reveals-the-median-age-of-death-from-covid-is-older-than-average-life-expectancy/

Pretty much what we have been saying all along. This was hype, and we were had. This is the first time I have seen a major news outlet say this. Imho, this is looking more and more like the pandemic was manufactured to get people to take the vaccine.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 07, 2021, 06:25:03 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 07, 2021, 06:13:43 AMhttps://thelibertydaily.com/tucker-carlson-reveals-the-median-age-of-death-from-covid-is-older-than-average-life-expectancy/

Pretty much what we have been saying all along. This was hype, and we were had. This is the first time I have seen a major news outlet say this. Imho, this is looking more and more like the pandemic was manufactured to get people to take the vaccine.

There is no doubt in my mind that this was manufactured, bought and paid for by the Democrats to force the "vaccine" on as many as possible and to get President Trump out of office. The fact that the liberal Democrats are STILL trashing President Trump and the fact that the liberal Democrats are literally filling up EVERY opportunity they can to push the "vaccine" proves to me that this is all hype and a manufactured PLANDEMIC for political purposes!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 07, 2021, 07:06:57 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 07, 2021, 05:54:37 AMSo, on the record, you have a doctor that gives Ivermectin.

lol ...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I got the standard shots, now the moon is out of orbit due to the magnetic properties of the shot, I am sterile (may have to do with that vasectomy), and my right big toe is rotting.

The hysteria makes me worry about the 12 and under gang.  Kids are pretty resilient, just hate to lose them due to misinformation.

And why does this upset you......? Please explain
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 07, 2021, 07:19:55 AM
Quote from: Bronx on July 07, 2021, 07:06:57 AMAnd why does this upset you......? Please explain
You understood that? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 07, 2021, 07:28:27 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 07, 2021, 08:27:58 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2021, 07:19:55 AMYou understood that? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

This is what I understand...the liberals get played by their own hate groups like the democrats than turn around and get upset with us........... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Behind a nervous laugh is a very scared person.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on July 07, 2021, 08:59:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 07, 2021, 07:28:27 AM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/078/628/399/original/97aef26f56e5a13f.jpg)

If you  have any symptoms  its a  cold. Most  have  no symptoms.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on July 07, 2021, 09:55:04 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 07, 2021, 06:13:43 AMhttps://thelibertydaily.com/tucker-carlson-reveals-the-median-age-of-death-from-covid-is-older-than-average-life-expectancy/

Pretty much what we have been saying all along. This was hype, and we were had. This is the first time I have seen a major news outlet say this. Imho, this is looking more and more like the pandemic was manufactured to get people to take the vaccine.

And to push mail in voting to steal the election.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 07, 2021, 02:33:40 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 07, 2021, 09:55:04 AMAnd to push mail in voting to steal the election.

Not only that but, there are long and short term consequences for the "vaccine" that the media won't talk about.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 08, 2021, 07:50:11 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 08, 2021, 01:18:25 PM
Libs will be but a memory in the near future. How do I know? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:









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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 10, 2021, 07:53:58 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 12, 2021, 06:01:46 AM
Quote from: Bronx on July 07, 2021, 07:06:57 AMAnd why does this upset you......? Please explain

Upset?  Where did you get that from? 

Kids who are not eligible for the vaccine has me worried.  Adults not being vaccinated, being around kids who do not have the option "worries" me.  It does not upset me.

Anything else that I can help you with concerning English ... just send it my way. 

 :confused:  :confused:  :confused:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 12, 2021, 06:51:27 AM
Folks...as long as Big Pharma and the democrats are making money off of this scam they will never give up their vaccines.

Meeting Set: Pfizer and U.S. Health Officials to Discuss Vaccine Booster

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/12/meeting-set-pfizer-and-u-s-health-officials-to-discuss-vaccine-booster/

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 12, 2021, 07:02:27 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 12, 2021, 06:01:46 AMUpset?  Where did you get that from? 

Kids who are not eligible for the vaccine has me worried.  Adults not being vaccinated, being around kids who do not have the option "worries" me.  It does not upset me.

Anything else that I can help you with concerning English ... just send it my way. 

 :confused:  :confused:  :confused:

I'm curious, can you show us all an actual vaccine?
Manipulating human genetics is not a vaccine, in fact, no one has even actually seen the real virus yet, so how can it be possible to create a vaccine if the bug is kept in secret because it has a patent protection?

Have you really thought this through?


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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 12, 2021, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 12, 2021, 06:01:46 AMUpset?  Where did you get that from? 

Kids who are not eligible for the vaccine has me worried.  Adults not being vaccinated, being around kids who do not have the option "worries" me.  It does not upset me.

Anything else that I can help you with concerning English ... just send it my way. 

 :confused:  :confused:  :confused:

Don't worry be happy...be happy that there are doctors who will treat COVID-19 with Ivermectin or HCL.



Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 13, 2021, 04:49:44 AM
Hope we will be hearing more on this https://noqreport.com/2021/07/13/mounting-evidence-shows-haitian-president-moise-was-assassinated-before-blowing-whistle-on-vaccines/

QuoteLet's break down those numbers. Despite similar population density, higher total population, and worse healthcare available, Haiti has had 1.8% of the Covid cases that New Jersey has had. Put another way, the citizens of New Jersey with a high vaccination rate are 53-times more likely to contract Covid-19 than Haitians who do not have access to a vaccine.

QuoteHere's where we get conspiratorial and speculative. Having failed to convince Moïse of the efficacy of their injections, they couldn't just let him continue to be the shining example of how Covid-19 vaccines weren't necessary. Rumors have spread that he was going to blow the whistle on the vaccines based on information he had received about them, their manufacturers, and the U.S. government. Studies in Haiti have since been halted for "safety" concerns even though the same risks were present in the nation when the studies began. Considering people on the DEA's and FBI's payrolls were among those allegedly involved in the assassination, every alarm bell should be ringing in our minds right about now.

I hope the talk shows pick up on this.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 13, 2021, 05:27:08 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 07, 2021, 05:54:37 AMSo, on the record, you have a doctor that gives Ivermectin.

lol ...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I got the standard shots, now the moon is out of orbit due to the magnetic properties of the shot, I am sterile (may have to do with that vasectomy), and my right big toe is rotting.

The hysteria makes me worry about the 12 and under gang.  Kids are pretty resilient, just hate to lose them due to misinformation.

What say you..............?

COVID-19 cure already discovered? Ivermectin 'can end this pandemic'

WASHINGTON — A COVID-19 treatment capable of ending the pandemic once and for all may already be available for use. A team of researchers, including three U.S. government senior scientists, are calling for governments around the world to start treating coronavirus patients with ivermectin. Their findings reveal the drug not only prevents people from contracting COVID, but also defeats the virus and saves lives.

"We did the work that the medical authorities failed to do, we conducted the most comprehensive review of the available data on ivermectin," says Dr. Pierre Kory, president and chief medical officer of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), in a media release. "We applied the gold standard to qualify the data reviewed before concluding that ivermectin can end this pandemic."

Researchers conducted a comprehensive review of 27 reports from clinical, in vitro, animal, and real-world studies. These include 15 randomized controlled trials, which are the preferred scientific method of the World Health Organization, the U.S. National Institutes of Health, and the European Medicines Agency.

Those findings reveal treating COVID-19 patients with ivermectin resulted in large drops in coronavirus deaths. The recovery time from an infection and the time it takes to clear COVID from someone's system also saw significant reductions among patients on ivermectin.

Additionally, three randomized controlled trials and five observational controlled trials which included nearly 2,500 healthy participants discovered using ivermectin noticeably reduces the risk of contracting COVID-19.

READ MORE HERE....
https://www.studyfinds.org/covid-19-cure-ivermectin/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 13, 2021, 05:37:32 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 07, 2021, 05:54:37 AMSo, on the record, you have a doctor that gives Ivermectin.

lol ...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I got the standard shots, now the moon is out of orbit due to the magnetic properties of the shot, I am sterile (may have to do with that vasectomy), and my right big toe is rotting.

The hysteria makes me worry about the 12 and under gang.  Kids are pretty resilient, just hate to lose them due to misinformation.

Just think all she had to do was take Ivermectin. What a shame this young woman lost her life to Big Pharma and the democrat's greed for money and power.

20 Year Old Wayne State University Pre-Med Student Hadley Huffman Dies Unexpectedly After Covid Shot

https://theempoweror.com/2021/07/09/20-year-old-wayne-state-university-pre-med-student-hadley-huffman-dies-unexpectedly-after-covid-shot/


Ivermectin is the cure for this man made china virus

https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/06000/Review_of_the_Emerging_Evidence_Demonstrating_the.4.aspx
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 13, 2021, 05:50:42 AM
Quote from: Bronx on July 13, 2021, 05:37:32 AMJust think all she had to do was take Ivermectin. What a shame this young woman lost her life to Big Pharma and the democrat's greed for money and power.

20 Year Old Wayne State University Pre-Med Student Hadley Huffman Dies Unexpectedly After Covid Shot

https://theempoweror.com/2021/07/09/20-year-old-wayne-state-university-pre-med-student-hadley-huffman-dies-unexpectedly-after-covid-shot/


Ivermectin is the cure for this man made china virus

https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/06000/Review_of_the_Emerging_Evidence_Demonstrating_the.4.aspx

I'm not convinced that this whole Wuhan virus scam is nothing but a bad engineered cold. My wife and I both had it and took nothing for it. It was not good but, it wasn't the life ending illness that Democrats want to claim it is. My guess is when all is said and done that more people will have died from the "vaccine" than the actual Wuhan "virus".
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 13, 2021, 06:20:59 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 13, 2021, 04:49:44 AMHope we will be hearing more on this https://noqreport.com/2021/07/13/mounting-evidence-shows-haitian-president-moise-was-assassinated-before-blowing-whistle-on-vaccines/

I hope the talk shows pick up on this.
There's probably a lot of truth in this because Africa has not had a problem with the CCP Flu because they live in a preventive pool of drugs.
Be it hydroxychloroquine, quinine or ivermectin, they have been taking it for a myriad of diseases.

There is a lot of evil in this world, and the left sits at the top of the pile.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 13, 2021, 09:10:55 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Bronx on July 13, 2021, 11:42:10 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 07, 2021, 05:54:37 AMSo, on the record, you have a doctor that gives Ivermectin.

lol ...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I got the standard shots, now the moon is out of orbit due to the magnetic properties of the shot, I am sterile (may have to do with that vasectomy), and my right big toe is rotting.

The hysteria makes me worry about the 12 and under gang.  Kids are pretty resilient, just hate to lose them due to misinformation.

While you're worried about the "magnetic properties of the shot" the FDA is worried about the "incurable nerve disorder" from the shots............leave our kids alone.

FDA Finally Admits Johnson and Johnson Vaccine Is Linked To Rare, Incurable Nerve Disorder

https://welovetrump.com/2021/07/12/fda-finally-admits-johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-is-linked-to-rare-incurable-nerve-disorder/?utm_source=PTN&utm_medium=mixed&utm_campaign=PTN
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 14, 2021, 05:56:28 AM
Are you serious?

My god, Trump was campaigning to get these on the market to prevent the dems from seizing what he helped pharma work for.

Pharma also knew he was limiting their profit and did everything possible to prevent the vaccine from hitting the markets before the election.  Check out the letter

https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla (https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla)

I consider you an educated, opinionated, not necessarily honest man Solar.  Don't start the lies by mincing terms.

The vaccine is still trial and under emergency use.  Stats show it works.

Simple stuff my man.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 14, 2021, 05:58:31 AM
Quote from: Bronx on July 13, 2021, 05:27:08 AMWhat say you..............?

COVID-19 cure already discovered? Ivermectin 'can end this pandemic'

WASHINGTON — A COVID-19 treatment capable of ending the pandemic once and for all may already be available for use. A team of researchers, including three U.S. government senior scientists, are calling for governments around the world to start treating coronavirus patients with ivermectin. Their findings reveal the drug not only prevents people from contracting COVID, but also defeats the virus and saves lives.

"We did the work that the medical authorities failed to do, we conducted the most comprehensive review of the available data on ivermectin," says Dr. Pierre Kory, president and chief medical officer of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), in a media release. "We applied the gold standard to qualify the data reviewed before concluding that ivermectin can end this pandemic."

Researchers conducted a comprehensive review of 27 reports from clinical, in vitro, animal, and real-world studies. These include 15 randomized controlled trials, which are the preferred scientific method of the World Health Organization, the U.S. National Institutes of Health, and the European Medicines Agency.

Those findings reveal treating COVID-19 patients with ivermectin resulted in large drops in coronavirus deaths. The recovery time from an infection and the time it takes to clear COVID from someone's system also saw significant reductions among patients on ivermectin.

Additionally, three randomized controlled trials and five observational controlled trials which included nearly 2,500 healthy participants discovered using ivermectin noticeably reduces the risk of contracting COVID-19.

READ MORE HERE....
https://www.studyfinds.org/covid-19-cure-ivermectin/

It would have been unapproved, and in theory, you would have rejected it for all the same reasons that you reject the other vaccines.

Unproven, but works.

Not sure why you chose to post that.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 14, 2021, 06:04:11 AM
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That J&J shot seems to have some side effects in .01% of the population.

For data purposes, about 100 times less than effects from those who choose not to get the shot completely.

I relied on the two shot approach.

Had my yearly physical yesterday and labs, heart check, bp were all at the stud level.

Happy, happy joy joy.

I post my opinions based on facts, you can disagree and in the end it is your body, your choice.

I have argued that for years, and always aim to protect the youth ...but, still your choice.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2021, 06:17:39 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 14, 2021, 05:56:28 AMAre you serious?

My god, Trump was campaigning to get these on the market to prevent the dems from seizing what he helped pharma work for.

Pharma also knew he was limiting their profit and did everything possible to prevent the vaccine from hitting the markets before the election.  Check out the letter

https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla (https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla)

I consider you an educated, opinionated, not necessarily honest man Solar.  Don't start the lies by mincing terms.

The vaccine is still trial and under emergency use.  Stats show it works.

Simple stuff my man.
Here was my question. And I made a typo, that was supposed to say Virus, can you show us an actual virus.
Of course we've all seen what they claim to be a vaccine, which it is not, it is not, it is still an experimental drug that forces the body's mRNA to react to an invader.

QuoteI'm curious, can you show us all an actual vaccine VIRUS?
Manipulating human genetics is not a vaccine, in fact, no one has even actually seen the real virus yet, so how can it be possible to create a vaccine if the bug is kept in secret because it has a patent protection?

Have you really thought this through?

Wanna try again?

 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2021, 07:01:52 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 14, 2021, 07:19:15 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 12:05:42 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 14, 2021, 05:56:28 AMAre you serious?

My god, Trump was campaigning to get these on the market to prevent the dems from seizing what he helped pharma work for.

Pharma also knew he was limiting their profit and did everything possible to prevent the vaccine from hitting the markets before the election.  Check out the letter

https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla (https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla)

I consider you an educated, opinionated, not necessarily honest man Solar.  Don't start the lies by mincing terms.

The vaccine is still trial and under emergency use.  Stats show it works.

Simple stuff my man.

I dont think thats true. Seems to me many many have died from the vaccine, and those who dont have had weird nasty side effects. People have metal sticking to the injection site, thats very very weird.

On top of that the left and the deepstate are pushing it. Does that count for nothing?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:08:08 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 14, 2021, 06:04:11 AMThat J&J shot seems to have some side effects in .01% of the population.

For data purposes, about 100 times less than effects from those who choose not to get the shot completely.

I relied on the two shot approach.

Had my yearly physical yesterday and labs, heart check, bp were all at the stud level.

Happy, happy joy joy.

I post my opinions based on facts, you can disagree and in the end it is your body, your choice.

I have argued that for years, and always aim to protect the youth ...but, still your choice.

So, in other words, you're a gambler with the lives of children over a bug that effects virtually none of them?

What you claim to be stats and research is akin to watching a University from a space satellite and claiming you're educated.
Their fuckin data is skewed beyond belief, they created a "vaccine" before they created a disease and you trust the data?

I think you need to stick to the sports forum, where cheating never occurs. :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:16:59 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 12:05:42 AMI dont think thats true. Seems to me many many have died from the vaccine, and those who dont have had weird nasty side effects. People have metal sticking to the injection site, thats very very weird.

On top of that the left and the deepstate are pushing it. Does that count for nothing?
Hey, he knows... Those stats and TV pundits never lie, so he educated himself by watching yet even more propaganda pushed by the drug companies who would never lie either.

AS much info that has been released since this all began and young people still think they are in danger from a bug that effects the old and sick disproportionally compared to the healthy and they think they are protecting others by getting the jab?

Is it any wonder the Marxist were able to dupe an entire generation in such a short amount of time?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:08:08 AMSo, in other words, you're a gambler with the lives of children over a bug that effects virtually none of them?

What you claim to be stats and research is akin to watching a University from a space satellite and claiming you're educated.
Their fuckin data is skewed beyond belief, they created a "vaccine" before they created a disease and you trust the data?

I think you need to stick to the sports forum, where cheating never occurs. :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

Weak.

I got the shot as I worked to many years for a good retirement to die early.  Yes, I bet the odds.

Friend of mine works where I used to has mom in a hospital states away, on a ventilator, and the hopes are not good.

Pretty distraught and now sees why mom and herself should be vaccinated.  So that is your data.  Those are the odds I work with.

I do agree that this "vaccine", as advertised, is not a cure.  It only helps.

May the force be with you.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:31:02 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 12:05:42 AMI dont think thats true. Seems to me many many have died from the vaccine, and those who dont have had weird nasty side effects. People have metal sticking to the injection site, thats very very weird.

On top of that the left and the deepstate are pushing it. Does that count for nothing?

"Many have died from the vaccine" .... that's what my brother says also.  "Nasty side effects" ....  there are some, just like with the tetanus shot I got two days ago.

"Metal sticking" .... yep, the planets now rotate at my discretion.  Sorry.

The left pushes it because it got Biden elected.  Sometimes I have to put politics aside to decide what is right for me and how I live to my standards.

If you think it's wrong .. don't do it.  Simple.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:33:59 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:27:06 AMWeak.

I got the shot as I worked to many years for a good retirement to die early.  Yes, I bet the odds.

Friend of mine works where I used to has mom in a hospital states away, on a ventilator, and the hopes are not good.

Pretty distraught and now sees why mom and herself should be vaccinated.  So that is your data.  Those are the odds I work with.

I do agree that this "vaccine", as advertised, is not a cure.  It only helps.

May the force be with you.
I had the bug when it first hit, it's a nasty flu at best, and I have some serious health complications.
Had any of you been paying attention, you'd have known that the ventilator is a death sentence, as it exacerbates the problem and ends in a death sentence for a bug no one is allowed to see because there is a patent held on it as well as the so called "vaccine".

Give the woman Ivermectin and hope for a miracle. Stop believing the hype, they are lying to you.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:41:54 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:55:59 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:33:59 AMI had the bug when it first hit, it's a nasty flu at best, and I have some serious health complications.
Had any of you been paying attention, you'd have known that the ventilator is a death sentence, as it exacerbates the problem and ends in a death sentence for a bug no one is allowed to see because there is a patent held on it as well as the so called "vaccine".

Give the woman Ivermectin and hope for a miracle. Stop believing the hype, they are lying to you.

Responded already, but it didn't post.  Likely my computer.

If you already had Covid, that is most likely as good as the shot.  "They" say 90 days, but that is a SWAG and based on other diseases.  Covid is adapting, and only time will tell.

So, with a very good retirment, I plan on making the most of it.  I plan to capitalize on the dollars.  The long term is why I got the shots.   As posted, kids are resilient, those who refuse to get vaccinated risk those lives, but it is a low percentage.

To your point of being a gambler ... we all are.  I have gambled that the vaccine is safe enough for me to get the shots and collect the retirement.  You gambled the opposite line.   

I think your thoughts on ventilators, your thoughts on drugs to use after contracting the disease are spot on.

I will also take the 3rd dose when available as a booster and delta variant prohibitor.

Not a doctor, but smart enough to know what is and is not a hazard.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 15, 2021, 08:58:01 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:27:06 AMWeak.

I got the shot as I worked to many years for a good retirement to die early.  Yes, I bet the odds.

Friend of mine works where I used to has mom in a hospital states away, on a ventilator, and the hopes are not good.

Pretty distraught and now sees why mom and herself should be vaccinated.  So that is your data.  Those are the odds I work with.

I do agree that this "vaccine", as advertised, is not a cure.  It only helps.

May the force be with you.

The question in my mind is "who" it may "help"... Certainly not the victim!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2021, 09:00:04 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:55:59 AMResponded already, but it didn't post.  Likely my computer.

If you already had Covid, that is most likely as good as the shot.  "They" say 90 days, but that is a SWAG and based on other diseases.  Covid is adapting, and only time will tell.
Most of the West Coast had it long before the left used it as a scare tactic.
The CCP flu is not adapting nor is it mutating. Had you been following the stats as you claim, you'd notice the only people catching these numerous variants, are the people stupid enough to take the jab.

It's the Jab that caused these variants. This is what happens when people think that playing lab rat is safe.
Did you think to ask, just how long this Jab will continue on in your body and what the sideeffects are long-term?

QuoteSo, with a very good retirment, I plan on making the most of it.  I plan to capitalize on the dollars.  The long term is why I got the shots.  As posted, kids are resilient, those who refuse to get vaccinated risk those lives, but it is a low percentage.

Did you think to ask about shedding?

QuoteTo your point of being a gambler ... we all are.  I have gambled that the vaccine is safe enough for me to get the shots and collect the retirement.  You gambled the opposite line.

Over a disease with a .3 chance of death, for a Jab that protects you just as well with an equal percentage rate of protection @ 97%.
Meaning, you had the same odds had you left it to your immune system to deal with it.
Instead, you injected your immune system with an unproven experimental drug.

QuoteI think your thoughts on ventilators, your thoughts on drugs to use after contracting the disease are spot on.

I will also take the 3rd dose when available as a booster and delta variant prohibitor.

Not a doctor, but smart enough to know what is and is not a hazard.

Ask your doctor about shedding before you venture any further. If you believe the first two helped, why a third? Are you really that trusting of a corporation disguised as a govt entity, that you'd risk your life and the lives of those around you?

Keep in mind, this was developed in a communist lab by people Hell bent on lowering the amount of those living today, who patented the virus as well as the  so called "Prevention".
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 10:12:55 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 15, 2021, 05:31:02 AM"Many have died from the vaccine" .... that's what my brother says also.  "Nasty side effects" ....  there are some, just like with the tetanus shot I got two days ago.
I was in the army and have been stuck many many times, as have my brothers. Never has it done what this vaccine is doing to people.

Quote"Metal sticking" .... yep, the planets now rotate at my discretion.  Sorry.
What does metal sticking to the spot have to do with planets?
So you dont have any answer to why metal sticking is a good thing?

QuoteThe left pushes it because it got Biden elected.  Sometimes I have to put politics aside to decide what is right for me and how I live to my standards.
Yet they are STILL pushing it, so the biden reason doesnt work.
Why are they still pushing a vaccine for a hoax of a virus which has killed less than 9000?

QuoteIf you think it's wrong .. don't do it.  Simple.
Its not wrong or right. The question is whether its safe or not, and whether it is an attack on our citizens by a foreign country.

Should I just sit back and allow my fellow citizens to be harmed by the deepstate?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 10:15:04 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2021, 05:33:59 AMI had the bug when it first hit, it's a nasty flu at best, and I have some serious health complications.
Had any of you been paying attention, you'd have known that the ventilator is a death sentence, as it exacerbates the problem and ends in a death sentence for a bug no one is allowed to see because there is a patent held on it as well as the so called "vaccine".

Give the woman Ivermectin and hope for a miracle. Stop believing the hype, they are lying to you.

Turns out my 2 of my brothers up in MN got the vaccine. They had also had the virus last year. They suffered more from the vaccine than they did from the virus itself.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2021, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 10:15:04 AMTurns out my 2 of my brothers up in MN got the vaccine. They had also had the virus last year. They suffered more from the vaccine than they did from the virus itself.
Sadly that's happening around the globe, be it facial paralysis or legions, the damage to the heart seems to be a permanent effect, and since it's so new, no one knows what's next.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 15, 2021, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2021, 10:38:34 AMSadly that's happening around the globe, be it facial paralysis or legions, the damage to the heart seems to be a permanent effect, and since it's so new, no one knows what's next.

Both the wife and I have had the "virus" and we both survived. The Democrats and their media lapdogs keep trying to push the disinformation that somehow the "vaccine" does more than the body does naturally. If I had any doubt about Democrat (with NO medical degree, education nor experience), intentions (I didn't), the fact that the Democrats were pushing the "vaccine" confirmed for me that money and politics not health was behind all of it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2021, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: RV on July 15, 2021, 02:51:05 PMBoth the wife and I have had the "virus" and we both survived. The Democrats and their media lapdogs keep trying to push the disinformation that somehow the "vaccine" does more than the body does naturally. If I had any doubt about Democrat (with NO medical degree, education nor experience), intentions (I didn't), the fact that the Democrats were pushing the "vaccine" confirmed for me that money and politics not health was behind all of it.
Spot on!!!
Same here, it was just another nasty Flu/cold.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 15, 2021, 03:25:11 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 16, 2021, 06:42:36 AM
Quote from: RV on July 15, 2021, 08:58:01 AMThe question in my mind is "who" it may "help"... Certainly not the victim!
:thumbup: For me to get the "vaccine", I would have to trust Fauci, the same "Dr." who has changed his mind several times. I would have to trust the government who shut down the economy when it has been proven that did not work, I would have to trust the the states that packed the nursing homes with infected patients in order to boost the number of deaths by the thousands did not happen, I would have to ignore the fact that the median age of death from the virus is 84, I would have to forget all the recorded "deaths" attributed to the vaccine when the person dies of other causes, I would have to trust all the lies the msm hit us with nightly, and I would have to trust that biden know what is best for me. I believe taking the vaccine is up to the individual, after all this is still America, and I would have to believe that biden agrees with that statement. Can't do it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 16, 2021, 07:26:16 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 16, 2021, 06:42:36 AM:thumbup: For me to get the "vaccine", I would have to trust Fauci, the same "Dr." who has changed his mind several times. I would have to trust the government who shut down the economy when it has been proven that did not work, I would have to trust the the states that packed the nursing homes with infected patients in order to boost the number of deaths by the thousands did not happen, I would have to ignore the fact that the median age of death from the virus is 84, I would have to forget all the recorded "deaths" attributed to the vaccine when the person dies of other causes, I would have to trust all the lies the msm hit us with nightly, and I would have to trust that biden know what is best for me. I believe taking the vaccine is up to the individual, after all this is still America, and I would have to believe that biden agrees with that statement. Can't do it.
Well said!
As well as forget the fact that the bug was made in a lab and patented and no one is allowed to see it because it's protected under law, so no one really knows what it looks like with the exception of the drug companies, who also hold a patent on the so called "vaccine".

This should be in court, not in the arms of innocent people.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 16, 2021, 07:26:29 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 16, 2021, 07:26:58 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 16, 2021, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 16, 2021, 07:26:16 AMWell said!
As well as forget the fact that the bug was made in a lab and patented and no one is allowed to see it because it's protected under law, so no one really knows what it looks like with the exception of the drug companies, who also hold a patent on the so called "vaccine".

This should be in court, not in the arms of innocent people.
And that is the major reason this vaccine is being pushed 24/7. File this under "if you tell a lie often enough".
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 16, 2021, 10:41:32 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 16, 2021, 10:05:40 AMAnd that is the major reason this vaccine is being pushed 24/7. File this under "if you tell a lie often enough".
Yep! If this was a real pandemic, the govt wouldn't be trying to sell fear.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 17, 2021, 04:07:25 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 17, 2021, 08:17:45 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 18, 2021, 04:48:34 AM
https://basedunderground.com/2021/07/18/buried-truth-cdc-reports-more-covid-vaccine-deaths-than-covid-deaths-over-the-last-two-weeks/

QuoteAccording to the CDC's vaccine adverse reactions portal, there have been 4,006 deaths following Covid-19 vaccinations reported between June 26 and July 9. During the same time period, the CDC shows 3,114 deaths attributed to Covid-19. That means there have been over 28% more vaccine-related deaths than Covid-related deaths during the two-week period.

QuoteVaccine proponents and the "arbiters of truth" in mainstream media will "debunk" this by claiming that VAERS data is inaccurate. We agree; estimates by respected analysts put the reported data at somewhere between 1%-15% of reality. In other words, for every family member who even knows to report their relative's vaccine-related deaths to VAERS, there are many more who did not.

What did people think would happen when the survival rate with the virus was 99%+. We have people catching the virus who have been vaccinated on top of this. People, we been had.  The big question, why is the government pushing this crap? the democrats have never cared about life, they are not now.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 18, 2021, 05:01:34 AM
Lots of covid news today.  https://thelibertydaily.com/if-covid-vaccines-work-why-are-the-most-heavily-vaccinated-countries-spiking-in-cases/

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QuoteIn Europe we are seeing surges at many places where most of the population has already been vaccinated.

At the same time, the 15 least vaccinated countries don't seem to face any problem.

At some point, denying this problem will get painful.


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2021, 05:08:44 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 18, 2021, 04:48:34 AMhttps://basedunderground.com/2021/07/18/buried-truth-cdc-reports-more-covid-vaccine-deaths-than-covid-deaths-over-the-last-two-weeks/

What did people think would happen when the survival rate with the virus was 99%+. We have people catching the virus who have been vaccinated on top of this. People, we been had.  The big question, why is the government pushing this crap? the democrats have never cared about life, they are not now.
Those in charge hate humanity, those who are making money off this scam are turning a blind eye and keeping their mouths shut.
Fauci is now in both categories, he is evil, he grew up a weasel, was a nerdy little fuck who sought vengeance against those who ridiculed him when he was just a punk.

Now all these scum have found a position of power and they aren't letting go of it.
They are pure evil! I know this may be hard for most to grasp, but it's true, they did not come up in the same world as you and I and the majority of the population, no, they think Dahmer was merely misunderstood.

It's because of people like these Marxists, that makes me have a disdain for people in general.
It's sad too, I've always liked people, didn't trust them much, but still gave them the benefit of the doubt, but who knew they were plotting positions of power in order to destroy us and our way of life?

The real virus isn't a bug, it's communists, the DNC, the CCP, they do not care about their fellow man, they want 99% of us dead, that's how evil they are.

Sorry for rambling, but we are after all, in a battle for our very existence.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 18, 2021, 05:16:23 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 18, 2021, 05:08:44 AMThose in charge hate humanity, those who are making money off this scam are turning a blind eye and keeping their mouths shut.
Fauci is now in both categories, he is evil, he grew up a weasel, was a nerdy little fuck who sought vengeance against those who ridiculed him when he was just a punk.

Now all these scum have found a position of power and they aren't letting go of it.
They are pure evil! I know this may be hard for most to grasp, but it's true, they did not come up in the same world as you and I and the majority of the population, no, they think Dahmer was merely misunderstood.

It's because of people like these Marxists, that makes me have a disdain for people in general.
It's sad too, I've always liked people, didn't trust them much, but still gave them the benefit of the doubt, but who knew they were plotting positions of power in order to destroy us and our way of life?

The real virus isn't a bug, it's communists, the DNC, the CCP, they do not care about their fellow man, they want 99% of us dead, that's how evil they are.

Sorry for rambling, but we are after all, in a battle for our very existence.
:thumbup:  Communism can not be justified, ever. Only communism would give a position of leadership to those who are mentally deranged, those who wish to destroy their fellow man. And the idiots who scream in the streets, follow their every word.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2021, 05:21:22 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 18, 2021, 05:16:23 AM:thumbup:  Communism can not be justified, ever. Only communism would give a position of leadership to those who are mentally deranged, those who wish to destroy their fellow man. And the idiots who scream in the streets, follow their every word.
Exactly!!!
There soon may come a time when this Nation may be forced to pull a Bolshevik moment on their asses, the very thing they had planned for us, assuming they haven't already killed off have the planet with their Jab.

Seriously, the bug was never the bioweapon people think it was, it's the patented Jab that will be cutting life short.
There's a special place in Hell for people like this, and I'll be watching as they arrive for their tribunals.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2021, 05:29:08 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 18, 2021, 05:16:23 AM:thumbup:  Communism can not be justified, ever. Only communism would give a position of leadership to those who are mentally deranged, those who wish to destroy their fellow man. And the idiots who scream in the streets, follow their every word.

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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 18, 2021, 05:31:19 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 18, 2021, 05:29:08 AM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/079/577/016/original/fc66b9924281140f.jpg)

I never considered the similarities between Jim Jones and Fauci but, there are many!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2021, 05:33:17 AM
Quote from: RV on July 18, 2021, 05:31:19 AMI never considered the similarities between Jim Jones and Fauci but, there are many!
Yep, both Dims, both hate people. I guess that's redundant. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 06:39:13 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 15, 2021, 12:05:42 AMI dont think thats true.

What part is it that you think is not true?

I will be happy to provide the facts in normal font face as best I can.

I happen to enjoy most of the posters here and would prefer not to turn you against what I believe you have earned in life.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: RV on July 15, 2021, 08:58:01 AMThe question in my mind is "who" it may "help"... Certainly not the victim!

Perhaps.  Define victim.  The family who lost someone because the superior intelect knew it was a hoax?

Perhaps.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2021, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 06:39:13 PMWhat part is it that you think is not true?

I will be happy to provide the facts in normal font face as best I can.

I happen to enjoy most of the posters here and would prefer not to turn you against what I believe you have earned in life.
So far all of those who got the Delta variant, were previously given the jab.
In truth, the Jab creates the variant, it did not morph outside on its own, the body created it.

Eventually the truth will come out, but for now, it's being suppressed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 07:04:52 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 18, 2021, 06:45:46 PMSo far all of those who got the Delta variant, were previously given the jab.
In truth, the Jab creates the variant, it did not morph outside on its own, the body created it.

Eventually the truth will come out, but for now, it's being suppressed.

Not true.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/12/most-fully-vaccinated-people-who-get-covid-delta-infections-are-asymptomatic-who-says-.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/12/most-fully-vaccinated-people-who-get-covid-delta-infections-are-asymptomatic-who-says-.html)

I know, it comes from WHO, so it must not be true.

Goes back to a previous post where you asked for data, and I really do not think it matters what data you see ...  it will be the wrong data, based on the fact that it does not support your relucftance to get a shot.

I want to be clear on some points.

I like pretty much every poster on this board.  Some folks claim "I don't care what others think!" ... well I do care what people think. I like being part of the better half of the country.  I like being right on more points of emphasis than to those of which I am wrong.

I am good at that.

There is some misinformation on why I believe COVID cost Mr. Trump the election.  Mr. Trump lost because the WHO and the scientific community in general, refused to authorize the Pfizer "vaccine" presidprior to the November US election.

Folllow the presidential debates.  Mr. Trump was asked about the vaccines and, in short, replied "very soon".  Mr. Biden, in short, responded "2022 at best".   Pharmaceuticals were on Biden's side and while the president was on the side of truth, that did no good for a nation believing Facebook and Twitter.

With me?

Mr. Trump urged America to hang with him as he recovered.   Told America the same drugs were there for them, that were there for him.

I love being an American Conservative. I hate being the odd man on the board. 

I also will not lie to you to be the poster that you love.  Sometimes cause has to come before self.

Check me to make sure.

My facts show that President Trump supported the vaccines, while not supporting the staff that had no clue on how to fast track those to the world.

My facts show that the unvaccinated folks are most at risk for the Delta variant.  My doctor supports that.

I have no issue with anyone who decides not to be vaccinated.  I would be wrong to tell you that I, myself, found any fault with the vaccine or with the scientists involved in the development.

Yep, it is differrent.  So was the polio vaccine when first deployed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2021, 07:18:36 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 07:04:52 PMNot true.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/12/most-fully-vaccinated-people-who-get-covid-delta-infections-are-asymptomatic-who-says-.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/12/most-fully-vaccinated-people-who-get-covid-delta-infections-are-asymptomatic-who-says-.html)

I know, it comes from WHO, so it must not be true.

Goes back to a previous post where you asked for data, and I really do not think it matters what data you see ...  it will be the wrong data, based on the fact that it does not support your relucftance to get a shot.

I want to be clear on some points.

I like pretty much every poster on this board.  Some folks claim "I don't care what others think!" ... well I do care what people think. I like being part of the better half of the country.  I like being right on more points of emphasis than to those of which I am wrong.

I am good at that.

There is some misinformation on why I believe COVID cost Mr. Trump the election.  Mr. Trump lost because the WHO and the scientific community in general, refused to authorize the Pfizer "vaccine" presidprior to the November US election.

Folllow the presidential debates.  Mr. Trump was asked about the vaccines and, in short, replied "very soon".  Mr. Biden, in short, responded "2022 at best".  Pharmaceuticals were on Biden's side and while the president was on the side of truth, that did no good for a nation believing Facebook and Twitter.

With me?

Mr. Trump urged America to hang with him as he recovered.  Told America the same drugs were there for them, that were there for him.

I love being an American Conservative. I hate being the odd man on the board. 

I also will not lie to you to be the poster that you love.  Sometimes cause has to come before self.

Check me to make sure.

My facts show that President Trump supported the vaccines, while not supporting the staff that had no clue on how to fast track those to the world.

My facts show that the unvaccinated folks are most at risk for the Delta variant.  My doctor supports that.

I have no issue with anyone who decides not to be vaccinated.  I would be wrong to tell you that I, myself, found any fault with the vaccine or with the scientists involved in the development.

Yep, it is differrent.  So was the polio vaccine when first deployed.
Just a couple of points.
(1) Trump did not lose, the left pulled an election coup.
(2) Check VAERS for a semblance of the truth of what is known about the side effects of the Jab.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 07:23:26 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 18, 2021, 07:18:36 PMJust a couple of points.
(1) Trump did not lose, the left pulled an election coup.
(2) Check VAERS for a semblance of the truth of what is known about the side effects of the Jab.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/

What percent of those receiving the jab, have reported to vaers?

Trump lost.  It causes me to lose sleep.   Biden cheated, but still, my retirement is at risk due to a terrible president.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 18, 2021, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 07:23:26 PMWhat percent of those receiving the jab, have reported to vaers?
Excellent question! I've only heard guesses of maybe 20% of people reported because no one was aware they could.
But the fact people are reporting it, confirms there is a problem.

QuoteTrump lost.  It causes me to lose sleep.  Biden cheated, but still, my retirement is at risk due to a terrible president.
Yet you admit they cheated, and you still think he lost? :biggrin:

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 07:30:35 PM
I went through the same discomfort when the Asian market started the Anthrax bombs.

"Be vaccinated, or be separated".

Biological warfare is horrible and I had to trust the scientific community.

Anytime you want me to pull out of this thread, just holler, I have offered the intolerance and everything else will seem to be troll.

I enjoy the board Solar, sometimes intelligence meets intelligence and then you have to decide.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 18, 2021, 07:26:51 PMExcellent question! I've only heard guesses of maybe 20% of people reported because no one was aware they could.
But the fact people are reporting it, confirms there is a problem.
Yet you admit they cheated, and you still think he lost? :biggrin:

People have reported McDonalds because the coffee is too hot.

Yep.  It is not an admitance.  I voted Trump.

Lost is another "definable" term.

Trump is not signing on to the 3 trillion dollar debt that no backbone Joe is.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on July 18, 2021, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 06:39:13 PMWhat part is it that you think is not true?

I will be happy to provide the facts in normal font face as best I can.

I happen to enjoy most of the posters here and would prefer not to turn you against what I believe you have earned in life.

I dont think the stats show the vaccine works as intended. Unless of course the stats are as messed up as the covid stats...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2021, 05:24:55 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 18, 2021, 07:30:35 PMI went through the same discomfort when the Asian market started the Anthrax bombs.

"Be vaccinated, or be separated".

Biological warfare is horrible and I had to trust the scientific community.

Anytime you want me to pull out of this thread, just holler, I have offered the intolerance and everything else will seem to be troll.

I enjoy the board Solar, sometimes intelligence meets intelligence and then you have to decide.
That's the point, you said you looked at the stats, weighed your decision. Problem is, you were lied to over a bug your own immune system has better odds of beating, instead of injecting a foreign substance that has never been tested.

My bigger question is, why did you volunteer as a lab rat? Hell, they didn't even test it on lab rats yet.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on July 19, 2021, 08:19:45 AM
This is interesting as they try to push that more unvaccinated died....

According to the CDC's vaccine adverse reactions portal, there have been 4,006 deaths following Covid-19 vaccinations reported between June 26 and July 9. During the same time period, the CDC shows 3,114 deaths attributed to Covid-19. That means there have been over 28% more vaccine-related deaths than Covid-related deaths during the two-week period.

https://basedunderground.com/2021/07/18/buried-truth-cdc-reports-more-covid-vaccine-deaths-than-covid-deaths-over-the-last-two-weeks/

The vaccines may be worse than ineffective. They may actually be aiding in spreading the coronavirus. A thread by Twitter user @holmenkollin that we reported at The Liberty Daily reveals this very disturbing trend (edited for format only):

Something really odd is going on:

In Europe we are seeing surges at many places where most of the population has already been vaccinated.

At the same time, the 15 least vaccinated countries don't seem to face any problem.

Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2021, 08:23:47 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on July 19, 2021, 08:19:45 AMThis is interesting as they try to push that more unvaccinated died....

According to the CDC's vaccine adverse reactions portal, there have been 4,006 deaths following Covid-19 vaccinations reported between June 26 and July 9. During the same time period, the CDC shows 3,114 deaths attributed to Covid-19. That means there have been over 28% more vaccine-related deaths than Covid-related deaths during the two-week period.

https://basedunderground.com/2021/07/18/buried-truth-cdc-reports-more-covid-vaccine-deaths-than-covid-deaths-over-the-last-two-weeks/

The vaccines may be worse than ineffective. They may actually be aiding in spreading the coronavirus. A thread by Twitter user @holmenkollin that we reported at The Liberty Daily reveals this very disturbing trend (edited for format only):

Something really odd is going on:

In Europe we are seeing surges at many places where most of the population has already been vaccinated.

At the same time, the 15 least vaccinated countries don't seem to face any problem.

Toy
Good find Babe. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2021, 08:36:59 AM
ATTY THOMAS RENZ & AMERICAS FRONTLINE DOCTORS SUE DHHS TO STOP VACCINATING CHILDREN 15 AND YOUNGER
Breaking: DHHS sued to halt the Covid-19 Vaccines to Children 15 years old and younger. This game-changing lawsuit was filed by Attorney Thomas Renz and America's Frontline Doctors against the Emergency Use Authorization of these experimental vaccines that have had no long term studies on the impact on adults, much less children.  The lawsuit also challenges the legality of "emergency use authorization" since that law states that children must be at risk, which the CDC says children are statistically at ZERO percent mortality rate by COVID-19.  The "emergency use authorization" also states that it can only go into effect if there are no other viable treatments for the virus.

Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Zinc, and Budesonide have all been proven as effective treatments by multiple doctors.

This lawsuit throws the kitchen sink at the unethical collusion and marketing campaign of this deadly vaccine through Big Media, Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big Gov, all to financially benefit globalist billionaires.  Attorney Thomas Renz also goes after Dr. Anthony Fauci for his numerous lies about gain of function , masks and more.

 Suit and supporting documents attached.

https://renz-law.com/our-medical-freedom-fight
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2021, 10:22:24 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2021, 10:22:49 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2021, 11:29:25 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 19, 2021, 11:45:33 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 20, 2021, 03:53:08 AM
https://conservativeplaylist.com/2021/07/20/covid-shots-are-driving-mutated-variants/

QuoteThe imperative message is this: The powers-that-be and their puppets, the self-proclaimed arbiters-of-truth, are lying to us all. They're going to continue ramping up their rhetoric that the unvaccinated are perpetuating Covid-19, but more importantly they're trying to pressure people with the much bigger lie that the unvaccinated are the reason new strains of Covid-19 are emerging. This is not backed by any science at all. In fact, it's the exact opposite of what science has demonstrated for decades.

QuoteViruses mutate all the time, and if you have a vaccine that doesn't block infection completely, then the virus will mutate to evade the immune response within that person. That is one of the distinct features of the COVID shots — they're not designed to block infection. They allow infection to occur and at best lessen the symptoms of that infection
In an unvaccinated person, the virus does not encounter the same evolutionary pressure to mutate into something stronger. So, if SARS-CoV-2 does end up mutating into more lethal strains, then mass vaccination is the most likely driver

Want facts on why not to take the vaccine? This just adds to the growing pile we already have. And not one damn liberal will listen to any of it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 20, 2021, 06:02:45 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 20, 2021, 03:53:08 AMhttps://conservativeplaylist.com/2021/07/20/covid-shots-are-driving-mutated-variants/

Want facts on why not to take the vaccine? This just adds to the growing pile we already have. And not one damn liberal will listen to any of it.
Yep, just like the BLM lie that it was all about racial oppression, now they're using the same failed tactic in dividing the sheep from the thinking public, and those of us using Critical Thought are the enemy.

This tactic is straight out of the Marxist play book of Divide and Conquer, thing is, we no longer care if the commies vaccinate their own sheep, there'll be a shit load less of them in Five years because they managed to kill off their potential base.

Thinking Americans is all that will be left. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 21, 2021, 06:52:01 AM

Disclose.tv 🚨
@disclosetv
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JUST IN - CDC has added 6,000 new death reports in VAERS following #COVID19 vaccinations in the US. This is more than double last week's total figure and 0.0036% of the approx. 338 million administered doses.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 21, 2021, 06:55:54 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2021, 06:52:01 AMDisclose.tv 🚨
@disclosetv
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1h
JUST IN - CDC has added 6,000 new death reports in VAERS following #COVID19 vaccinations in the US. This is more than double last week's total figure and 0.0036% of the approx. 338 million administered doses.

My problem is that the CDC has totally skewed the number of actual Covid 19 cases, so any "numbers" that they publish are suspect. The actual numbers from "Vaccine" deaths may be vastly different from what they admit to.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 21, 2021, 06:56:08 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2021, 06:52:01 AMDisclose.tv 🚨
@disclosetv
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1h
JUST IN - CDC has added 6,000 new death reports in VAERS following #COVID19 vaccinations in the US. This is more than double last week's total figure and 0.0036% of the approx. 338 million administered doses.
Sounds like a liberals dream, those who do not die from taking the fake vaccine will be spreading virus's which are mutating and keeping the panic going.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 21, 2021, 07:05:11 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 21, 2021, 06:56:08 AMSounds like a liberals dream, those who do not die from taking the fake vaccine will be spreading virus's which are mutating and keeping the panic going.
BINGO! Wait'll the people find out all these variants are derivatives of the JAB.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 21, 2021, 07:11:40 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2021, 07:05:11 AMBINGO! Wait'll the people find out all these variants are derivatives of the JAB.

When all is said and done, the actual number of deaths that were planned, scuttled, covered up and lied about may vastly exceed the Nazi concentration camp deaths. Coincidence?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 21, 2021, 07:26:53 AM
Quote from: RV on July 21, 2021, 07:11:40 AMWhen all is said and done, the actual number of deaths that were planned, scuttled, covered up and lied about may vastly exceed the Nazi concentration camp deaths. Coincidence?
Excellent Point!!!
Crimes against humanity never before seen in history, and once again, it was the Marxists.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 21, 2021, 09:53:09 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2021, 07:26:53 AMExcellent Point!!!
Crimes against humanity never before seen in history, and once again, it was the Marxists.

Thanks! There are LOTS of people who could claim that "reparations" are in order for crimes against them, not just those with increased Melanin in their skin. The case could be made for the Jews, civil war veteran families, etc., etc., etc. Yet the Democrats only focus on ONE group. Could it have more to do with votes, politics and power???
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 22, 2021, 05:29:01 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 21, 2021, 06:56:08 AMSounds like a liberals dream, those who do not die from taking the fake vaccine will be spreading virus's which are mutating and keeping the panic going.

Healthy people are dying due to the advice of those carrying on "why the vax is bad"

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 (https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187)

Yep ... even if this is 30 points off ... the vaccine is effective.

https://wsiltv.com/2021/07/15/99-of-covid-19-hospital-patients-are-unvaccinated/ (https://wsiltv.com/2021/07/15/99-of-covid-19-hospital-patients-are-unvaccinated/)

The good news is, that if you are a life after death dude or dudess ... you will still have the opportunity in the grave to tweet about these horrors.

Get vaccinated and live to tell your children about life.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 22, 2021, 05:38:04 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 22, 2021, 05:29:01 AMHealthy people are dying due to the advice of those carrying on "why the vax is bad"

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 (https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187)

Yep ... even if this is 30 points off ... the vaccine is effective.

https://wsiltv.com/2021/07/15/99-of-covid-19-hospital-patients-are-unvaccinated/ (https://wsiltv.com/2021/07/15/99-of-covid-19-hospital-patients-are-unvaccinated/)

The good news is, that if you are a life after death dude or dudess ... you will still have the opportunity in the grave to tweet about these horrors.

Get vaccinated and live to tell your children about life.
Right, even demented old joe said you can not get the virus ever if you are vaccinated.  :blink:  :blink: 
Of course that one will not get fact checked.
Did you even read any of the evidence posted in previous posts?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2021, 06:59:41 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 22, 2021, 05:29:01 AMHealthy people are dying due to the advice of those carrying on "why the vax is bad"

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 (https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187)

Yep ... even if this is 30 points off ... the vaccine is effective.

https://wsiltv.com/2021/07/15/99-of-covid-19-hospital-patients-are-unvaccinated/ (https://wsiltv.com/2021/07/15/99-of-covid-19-hospital-patients-are-unvaccinated/)

The good news is, that if you are a life after death dude or dudess ... you will still have the opportunity in the grave to tweet about these horrors.

Get vaccinated and live to tell your children about life.
I gave you the truth at VAERS, and you come back using a link by the enemy?

Be free, let this sink in.


(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/079/901/754/original/9996176b3dda4ec8.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: p1tchblack on July 22, 2021, 11:52:36 AM
Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.
Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.

Of the 8,787 people who have died in Texas due to COVID-19 since early February, at least 43 were fully vaccinated, the Texas Department of State Health Services said.

That means 99.5% of people who died due to COVID-19 in Texas from Feb. 8 to July 14 were unvaccinated, while 0.5% were the result of "breakthrough infections," which DSHS defines as people who contracted the virus two weeks after being fully vaccinated.


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/21/coronavirus-texas-vaccinated-deaths/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on July 22, 2021, 11:58:50 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 22, 2021, 11:52:36 AMTexas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.
Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.

Of the 8,787 people who have died in Texas due to COVID-19 since early February, at least 43 were fully vaccinated, the Texas Department of State Health Services said.

That means 99.5% of people who died due to COVID-19 in Texas from Feb. 8 to July 14 were unvaccinated, while 0.5% were the result of "breakthrough infections," which DSHS defines as people who contracted the virus two weeks after being fully vaccinated.


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/21/coronavirus-texas-vaccinated-deaths/

And your point?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: p1tchblack on July 22, 2021, 12:03:46 PM
It's a good idea to get vaccinated?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: supsalemgr on July 22, 2021, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 22, 2021, 12:03:46 PMIt's a good idea to get vaccinated?

That is a personal decision and each person can make the choice. I made the choice to get the shot and I respect those who choose otherwise. If one believes they are protected from the virus then I could care less what others choose.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on July 22, 2021, 01:14:52 PM
My (dirty) front door:

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboxopics.com%2Fuser%2Felizasgrammy%2Fnotified.jpg&hash=3fc95b93776355f18ec5a6bc0bb61eb070bd3e5b)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2021, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: Grammy on July 22, 2021, 01:14:52 PMMy (dirty) front door:

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:thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

You go girl! :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 22, 2021, 01:17:03 PM
Quote from: Grammy on July 22, 2021, 01:14:52 PMMy (dirty) front door:

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboxopics.com%2Fuser%2Felizasgrammy%2Fnotified.jpg&hash=3fc95b93776355f18ec5a6bc0bb61eb070bd3e5b)

That is a great and factual sign on your front door!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on July 22, 2021, 01:21:19 PM
Quote from: RV on July 22, 2021, 01:17:03 PMThat is a great and factual sign on your front door!

Tennessee is definitely the South and we're ready for them but if they go on down to Louisiana and mess with my family, they'll be in what is known as the "By-God-South" and I wouldn't want to be them.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on July 22, 2021, 01:28:22 PM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 22, 2021, 12:03:46 PMIt's a good idea to get vaccinated?

Not for me.....  Toy 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 22, 2021, 03:03:16 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on July 22, 2021, 01:28:22 PMNot for me.....  Toy

Nor me either! Far too risky. Besides, there are too many commercials about it and far too many trying to urge people to get "vaccinated". They are far too eager for people to get "vaccinated", it is very suspicious.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 22, 2021, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: RV on July 22, 2021, 03:03:16 PMNor me either! Far too risky. Besides, there are too many commercials about it and far too many trying to urge people to get "vaccinated". They are far too eager for people to get "vaccinated", it is very suspicious.
Too many politicians pushing the vaccine and not doctors.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on July 22, 2021, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: RV on July 22, 2021, 03:03:16 PMNor me either! Far too risky. Besides, there are too many commercials about it and far too many trying to urge people to get "vaccinated". They are far too eager for people to get "vaccinated", it is very suspicious.

I am with you on that.  They are constantly on the radio telling us to get the shot. Way to aggressive about it.  I am a healthy adult with no underlying health issues so why would I risk it?  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on July 22, 2021, 03:15:28 PM
I apologize for the language, but I can sure understand it.  This was posted at Patriots today.   :sad:

(https://media.patriots.win/post/20RgKebZ.png)

Who would allow a healthy infant to be given an experimental injection?  :mad:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2021, 03:23:31 PM
Quote from: Grammy on July 22, 2021, 03:15:28 PMI apologize for the language, but I can sure understand it.  This was posted at Patriots today.  :sad:

(https://media.patriots.win/post/20RgKebZ.png)

Who would allow a healthy infant to be given an experimental injection?  :mad:
Very, VERY Stupid people!!! :glare:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on July 22, 2021, 03:43:22 PM
Quote from: Grammy on July 22, 2021, 03:15:28 PMI apologize for the language, but I can sure understand it.  This was posted at Patriots today.  :sad:

(https://media.patriots.win/post/20RgKebZ.png)

Who would allow a healthy infant to be given an experimental injection?  :mad:

Whomever gave them the shot should be prosecuted.  The parents will be suffering as it is.  :confused:  :angry:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on July 22, 2021, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on July 22, 2021, 03:43:22 PMWhomever gave them the shot should be prosecuted.  The parents will be suffering as it is.  :confused:  :angry:

As they should!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 22, 2021, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on July 22, 2021, 03:43:22 PMWhomever gave them the shot should be prosecuted.  The parents will be suffering as it is.  :confused:  :angry:
Totally Agree! :angry:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 23, 2021, 12:53:44 PM
Tell me again why we are supposed to get vaccinated?

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/07/22/vast-majority-covid-19-cluster-in-cape-cod-were-vaccinated/

QuoteIn Cape Cod, a geographic cape extending into the Atlantic Ocean in Massachusetts, the vaccinated are falling ill with Covid-19. The American town with one of the highest vaccination rates in the state, now has the highest rate of new cases.

We have people who had the vaccine still getting the virus. We have people who had the vaccine still dying from the virus. We have people who had the vaccine, dying from the vaccine. ?????
Is the only reason to take the vaccine because someone told us to take it?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 23, 2021, 01:14:28 PM
Annnnnd, just like that, they change the stats! :sneaky:



UPDATE - Something strange happened: VAERS reported deaths in the US following a Covid vaccination have been switched back to 6,079 (from 12,313 reported Wednesday) - the exact same number as reported last week.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 23, 2021, 04:33:42 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 23, 2021, 08:22:27 PM
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/043/595/original/a26b4dd87fb97778.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2021, 06:31:48 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2021, 11:11:23 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 24, 2021, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 24, 2021, 11:11:23 AM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/100/756/original/aea64bfd039cc968.png)
I would like to see if the covid deaths were with covid or from covid.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 24, 2021, 11:33:43 AMI would like to see if the covid deaths were with covid or from covid.
Yep, we all know these stats will never include underlying conditions, like plane crashes or murder. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2021, 03:49:28 PM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/086/169/original/d56506f543473e48.jpeg)

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/086/168/original/06d490fd99888def.jpeg)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 24, 2021, 03:52:51 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 25, 2021, 10:53:14 AM
Both party's do it, this is known as "Floating Balloons".





@Breaking911
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on July 25, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
Who would'a thunk it?       

Third vaccine shot likely needed for many Americans.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/fauci-vulnerable-americans-will-need-third-vaccine-shot/ar-AAMxKic
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 25, 2021, 03:36:26 PM
https://thelibertydaily.com/cdc-quietly-revokes-rt-pcr-emergency-use-authorization-because-they-counted-covid-19-and-influenza-together/

QuoteThe CDC announced, albeit quietly, on Wednesday that the RT-PCR tests used to tell millions of Americans they're infected with Covid-19 has been unable to accurately differentiate between the various coronaviruses. Of particular note is the inability of these tests to know whether someone is infected with Covid-19 or influenza.
So I guess in addition to all the lies, misquotes, and fake numbers, there were also mistakes made?  :lol:  Want to bet some of those death numbers might have been influenza and not covid?   People we been had.
Title: How Long Do the Vaccinated Have to Live?
Post by: Solar on July 26, 2021, 12:10:17 PM
This is an interesting interview of someone who believes 95% of the population needs to be killed off.
I've read about this from many scientists, people warning that the Jab is designed to remove you from the gene pool.
The only problem the left has with this is, the only ones getting it are people who willingly support big govt, while Patriots refuse to partake in this mass culling of liberals. But if it's libs you want, take em, it'll be easier to take out the perpetrators in the end, and yes, Nuremberg trials awaits your future.

I've heard 5 years is the average life span of those who get the Jab.

How Long Do the Vaccinated Have to Live?

Dr. Mylo Canderian is of the opinion that 95% of the world's population
are "Useless Eaters" who need to be euthanized as quickly as possible.

The answer to the question: three to ten years

Disclaimer- I don't know if this is true but, in the past, Steven Fishman has provided credible insider information.

There is too much to post without violating copyright laws, so I'll leave it to you to read for yourself.

https://www.henrymakow.com/2021/07/how-long-do-vaccinated-have-to.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WalterEgo on July 26, 2021, 04:52:28 PM

A new development on getting fu, I mean stuck.  It's a long article but with what's going on well worth the read.

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/26/informed-consent-afld-lawsuit-seeks-halt-to-eua-and-fda-approval/ (https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/26/informed-consent-afld-lawsuit-seeks-halt-to-eua-and-fda-approval/)

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 26, 2021, 06:01:44 PM
Quote from: WalterEgo on July 26, 2021, 04:52:28 PMA new development on getting fu, I mean stuck.  It's a long article but with what's going on well worth the read.

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/26/informed-consent-afld-lawsuit-seeks-halt-to-eua-and-fda-approval/ (https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/26/informed-consent-afld-lawsuit-seeks-halt-to-eua-and-fda-approval/)
"There is No Emergency"!!! Bingo!!!

The only way they can use an untested medical procedure is if they can qualify it as an emergency, which it is not, because we have other proven remedies that can heal those inflicted with the CCP flu.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 26, 2021, 07:50:32 PM
Minnesota Woman Loses Both Legs and Both Hands Following Second Pfizer COVID-19 Shot


(https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/07/Jummai-Nache.jpg)

Jummai Nache, and her husband, Philip Nache, were born in Nigeria and came to the U.S. to settle in Minneapolis a few years ago, working with the Southern Baptists to plant churches among the African communities living in Minneapolis.

They were reportedly forced to leave Nigeria due to the "Boko Haram terrorist group," and eventually ended up in Minneapolis serving as missionaries with the Southern Baptists.

Tragically, it appears that the Naches have adopted many of the American Christians' values here in the U.S., which includes participating in and trusting the corrupt medical system.

Jummaci was working as a medical assistant in a clinic in Minneapolis and was instructed to take the COVID-19 "vaccines."

She complied, and immediately after getting the second injection, according to her husband, "she started to experience chest pain at work."

Things went down hill fast after that, as the all-too-familiar symptoms of blood clots, a known side effect of the Pfizer COVID-19 shots, were found in her heart, and today she has had both legs amputated, and will also have to have both of her hands amputated.

Her case is supposedly "rare," as her husband reports that after the CDC and "70-80" doctors investigated her case, and reported back to him:

I also remembered what Dr. Sherri Tenpenny said in May of 2020 last year, more than 6 months before the COVID-19 "vaccines" were even authorized in an interview with Brian Rose, where she agreed with Dr. Judy Mikovits that up to 50 million people in the U.S. could die from these "vaccines," but that some people will survive and wish they hadn't.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/minnesota-woman-loses-both-legs-and-both-hands-following-second-pfizer-covid-19-shot/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on July 26, 2021, 08:09:20 PM
Quote from: WalterEgo on July 26, 2021, 04:52:28 PMA new development on getting fu, I mean stuck.  It's a long article but with what's going on well worth the read.

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/26/informed-consent-afld-lawsuit-seeks-halt-to-eua-and-fda-approval/ (https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/26/informed-consent-afld-lawsuit-seeks-halt-to-eua-and-fda-approval/)


Yes a long read, but well worth the read.  If you care about your life and your loved ones. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on July 26, 2021, 09:39:50 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 25, 2021, 03:36:26 PMhttps://thelibertydaily.com/cdc-quietly-revokes-rt-pcr-emergency-use-authorization-because-they-counted-covid-19-and-influenza-together/
So I guess in addition to all the lies, misquotes, and fake numbers, there were also mistakes made?  :lol:  Want to bet some of those death numbers might have been influenza and not covid?  People we been had.

Uh.... this kind of seems like big news....
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 05:40:46 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 22, 2021, 05:38:04 AMRight, even demented old joe said you can not get the virus ever if you are vaccinated.  :blink:  :blink: 
Of course that one will not get fact checked.
Did you even read any of the evidence posted in previous posts?

What is posted is not evidence, it is information posted on media to support a cause.

Vaccination is an inappropriate term, but it is what people understand, so we use it.  This does not prevent COVID, it minimizes the response if infectted.  It uses live cells to emulate the virus, to "show" your body how to react.

You do not get vaccintated against influenza, you get a "jab" which is a scientific guess at the most prevalent strain that season.  Have done it for years and here I am, jabbing back atcha.

COVID is a bit different in that it does not use dead cells, it uses cells which spike to emulate COVID.  The world used to fear nuclear power because it was introduced to the concept by some bombs in Japan.  Someone once said that if the world was introduced to electricity by the electric chair, we would never turn on a light switch. 

Some are now claiming that I have less than 5 years to live, so I choose to spend a few minutes of that 5 years on this page, with a wide-ass smile of disbelievement on my face.

Really?

A third shot?  There will be a 4th, 5th, .... maybe Solar can count beyond that as he is way smarter than I.

That is where the science is.  Get safe.  Then get safer.

My health is where I want it to be and I am grateful that national numbers have started to show some that were previously against the jab, seeing the rise in the hospitalization of the "unvaccinated", have gotten the jab.  Some organizations, including various police departments, have decided to make it mandatory.  Most blue who are willing to wage life and limb against crime, welcome not having to worry if the person next to them in the squad car is more dangerous than the meth dealer down the street.

I am very confident in my condition.  I got the shot to make Uncle Sam pay my retirement for the next 50 years.  I will not die in 5 years.

While I am confident in my decision, I can only hope that I am wrong on yours.  No one ever seeks to say "I told you so" after that person chooses pathetic advice and dies.

Fathom?

My thanks to President Trump for getting the "jab" and living to talk about it.  I suspect that he sees the golden years, what can be, what he has worked for, and isn't willing to sacrifice that for an early death in the name of the unvaccinated.

Get vaccinated and live to love your grandkids.  Show them what adults do.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 27, 2021, 06:11:15 AM
Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2021, 09:39:50 PMUh.... this kind of seems like big news....

It IS big news however, the MSM will keep it quiet or not cover it at all. They will claim that it's "misinformation" and move on. I wonder how this Minnesota woman and her family will feel about the "misinformation"? Bet it was not "misinformation" when she lost both legs and both hands. They may call it a "rare" side affect however, 50 million people dying from their "vaccine" is no "accident", "misinformation" or "mistake"...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on July 27, 2021, 06:12:08 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 05:40:46 AMWhat is posted is not evidence, it is information posted on media to support a cause.

Vaccination is an inappropriate term, but it is what people understand, so we use it.  This does not prevent COVID, it minimizes the response if infectted.  It uses live cells to emulate the virus, to "show" your body how to react.

You do not get vaccintated against influenza, you get a "jab" which is a scientific guess at the most prevalent strain that season.  Have done it for years and here I am, jabbing back atcha.

COVID is a bit different in that it does not use dead cells, it uses cells which spike to emulate COVID.  The world used to fear nuclear power because it was introduced to the concept by some bombs in Japan.  Someone once said that if the world was introduced to electricity by the electric chair, we would never turn on a light switch. 

Some are now claiming that I have less than 5 years to live, so I choose to spend a few minutes of that 5 years on this page, with a wide-ass smile of disbelievement on my face.

Really?

A third shot?  There will be a 4th, 5th, .... maybe Solar can count beyond that as he is way smarter than I.

That is where the science is.  Get safe.  Then get safer.

My health is where I want it to be and I am grateful that national numbers have started to show some that were previously against the jab, seeing the rise in the hospitalization of the "unvaccinated", have gotten the jab.  Some organizations, including various police departments, have decided to make it mandatory.  Most blue who are willing to wage life and limb against crime, welcome not having to worry if the person next to them in the squad car is more dangerous than the meth dealer down the street.

I am very confident in my condition.  I got the shot to make Uncle Sam pay my retirement for the next 50 years.  I will not die in 5 years.

While I am confident in my decision, I can only hope that I am wrong on yours.  No one ever seeks to say "I told you so" after that person chooses pathetic advice and dies.

Fathom?

My thanks to President Trump for getting the "jab" and living to talk about it.  I suspect that he sees the golden years, what can be, what he has worked for, and isn't willing to sacrifice that for an early death in the name of the unvaccinated.

Get vaccinated and live to love your grandkids.  Show them what adults do.

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/26/informed-consent-afld-lawsuit-seeks-halt-to-eua-and-fda-approval/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 06:14:57 AM
Quote from: walkstall on July 27, 2021, 06:12:08 AMhttps://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/26/informed-consent-afld-lawsuit-seeks-halt-to-eua-and-fda-approval/

yep ... McDonalds coffee is too hot.  Don't buy it.

I nearly lost a house in FL due to lawyers.  They get paid to get involved, not to be correct.

If you follow this, I only wish you the best and I hope that I am wrong.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 06:20:44 AM
So facilities and states are starting to require masks ... sigh, again, because 20% of the population is so smart that it continues to put hospitals at max capacity.

Soon, the ER who has to attend to the 91 year old woman with breathing problems, will delay 2 minutes too long.

And, of course, we will blame the hospital ... not all of the smart people, too smart to get the "jab" and convinced that they are saving humanity, for the sake of knowing that they are smarter than the scientific community surrounding the jab.

Trump got the jab and it does not seem that his golf game has suffered.  Good thing the balls do not have metallic centers, and so far, the jab has not caused him to gravitate to the moon.

Get real, get vaccinated, quit telling people to die because it's the conservative thing to do
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 06:32:15 AM
Try this ...  it includes the highly valued VAERS data

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)Ta

I think that Taxed posted a picture of some woman who lost both her legs.  Of course, due to the "jab", not due to her parents, where she was born, all of those things that do not matter if you are posting for the sake of convincing people that you are correct.

I wonder if this penniless woman is going to sue to reclaim her loss (which never was) and I wonder how many gullible folks, hoping to prove science wrong, will sing bible verses in her name.

Perhaps she can send the proceeds to Nigeria and others will follow.

Get the jab, live long, prosper.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2021, 06:34:06 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 06:20:44 AMSo facilities and states are starting to require masks ... sigh, again, because 20% of the population is so smart that it continues to put hospitals at max capacity.

Soon, the ER who has to attend to the 91 year old woman with breathing problems, will delay 2 minutes too long.

And, of course, we will blame the hospital ... not all of the smart people, too smart to get the "jab" and convinced that they are saving humanity, for the sake of knowing that they are smarter than the scientific community surrounding the jab.

Trump got the jab and it does not seem that his golf game has suffered.  Good thing the balls do not have metallic centers, and so far, the jab has not caused him to gravitate to the moon.

Get real, get vaccinated, quit telling people to die because it's the conservative thing to do
Blind ignorance is no excuse!
You do know, both the virus and supposed 'vaccine' are patented, Right?
Does this not set off alarm bells in your head? The 'vaccine' was patented before the virus or whatever it is, because no one has yet to see it, "BECAUSE IT'S PATENTED!"
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2021, 06:36:29 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 06:32:15 AMTry this ...  it includes the highly valued VAERS data

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)Ta

I think that Taxed posted a picture of some woman who lost both her legs.  Of course, due to the "jab", not due to her parents, where she was born, all of those things that do not matter if you are posting for the sake of convincing people that you are correct.

I wonder if this penniless woman is going to sue to reclaim her loss (which never was) and I wonder how many gullible folks, hoping to prove science wrong, will sing bible verses in her name.

Perhaps she can send the proceeds to Nigeria and others will follow.

Get the jab, live long, prosper.
She couldn't sue if she wanted to, pharma was given immunity for an experimental solution to be injected into the ignorant.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2021, 07:23:26 AM
1.Vaccine makers immune from liability.
http://2.Pfizer paid out billions for bribing doctors and suppressing adverse trial results.
3.Moderna has never brought a vaccine to market.
4.Every previous coronavirus vaccine has failed.
5.Every previous mRNA vaccine has failed.
6.Anecdotal friends and family adverse reactions.
http://7.Zero long term safety testing.
8.Censorship of scientific debate.
9.Censorship of Fauci funding gain-of-function.
10.Censorship of ivermectin, hcq, vitamin d, zinc, etc.
11.Censorship of adverse reactions and deaths.
12.Ignoring natural immunity.
13.99.95% chance of survival if below 50.
14.Bloated COVID-19 death numbers.
15.The virus continues to mutate.
16.Vaccinated still catch the virus.
17.FDA, CDC, WHO are captured institutions.
18.Virus and vaccine efficacy measured by faulty PCR test.
19.Never solved lipid nanoparticle delivery problem.
20.Japanese Pfizer data shows LNP accumulating in organs.
http://21.Got it and developed immunity.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 27, 2021, 06:20:44 AMSo facilities and states are starting to require masks ... sigh, again, because 20% of the population is so smart that it continues to put hospitals at max capacity.

Soon, the ER who has to attend to the 91 year old woman with breathing problems, will delay 2 minutes too long.

And, of course, we will blame the hospital ... not all of the smart people, too smart to get the "jab" and convinced that they are saving humanity, for the sake of knowing that they are smarter than the scientific community surrounding the jab.

Trump got the jab and it does not seem that his golf game has suffered.  Good thing the balls do not have metallic centers, and so far, the jab has not caused him to gravitate to the moon.

Get real, get vaccinated, quit telling people to die because it's the conservative thing to do
Why do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2021, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AMWhy do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?
To prove their status as sheep?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 27, 2021, 11:29:36 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AMWhy do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?

Why? Because it's not really a "vaccination". Why? Because it's all political, it has always been political and it will always be political. Why? Because it was created in a lab, the Communists and the Democrats are in bed with one another. Why? Because the gullible will think that they are "protected" from the so-called "virus". Why? Because Democrats can claim that Beijing is doing so much more than President Trump ever did, (even though they know this is just another lie).

Why? Because the Democrats can claim "plausible deniability" for anyone who dies from either the "vaccine" or the "virus" claiming that somehow, someway, somewhere they didn't wear their mask enough. Why? Because the Democrats wanted to get rid of the older more conservative folks and this is one way to do it.

Why? Because Democrats are attempting to whip up the fear factor to make themselves look like heroes to the gullible. Why? To give an excuse for the massive deficits, unemployment and inflation that they are laying the groundwork for.

Why? Because it's all part and parcel of the "reset" that Democrats want, support, promote and secretly encourage.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 27, 2021, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AMWhy do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?


https://thelibertydaily.com/if-vaccines-work-why-is-the-cdc-reinstating-face-mask-guidelines/

QuoteWith so many breakthrough cases making the news and a vast majority of them that get no attention at all, this move seems to indicate the CDC quietly does not believe in the effectiveness of these "vaccines." Nor should they, and perhaps they never did.


So the cdc does not have the confidence in the very vaccine they are telling us to get.  I guess the question should be why should anyone take the vaccine?  Right now, we do not, repeat, do not know the long term effects. This is not a "vaccine".
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 27, 2021, 12:56:42 PM
Here is another article along the same lines.

 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-expected-to-reverse-policy-on-face-masks-later-tuesday-amid-reports-of-breakthrough-infections-with-delta-variant-of-covid-19-11627399505?mod=home-page

As I used to get told, "pay attention to this part" it's a good one,


QuoteThe U.S. is sticking with travel restrictions on international travel as long as delta is spreading around the world, the Associated Press reported. And some federal agencies are moving to mandate vaccines for healthcare workers, including the Department of Veterans Affairs, which announced its decision on Monday.

Does the CDC not know about our open border policy? These are the people we are to be trusting for information about the virus?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2021, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 12:56:42 PMHere is another article along the same lines.

 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-expected-to-reverse-policy-on-face-masks-later-tuesday-amid-reports-of-breakthrough-infections-with-delta-variant-of-covid-19-11627399505?mod=home-page

As I used to get told, "pay attention to this part" it's a good one,


Does the CDC not know about our open border policy? These are the people we are to be trusting for information about the virus?
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 27, 2021, 01:59:49 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 12:56:42 PMHere is another article along the same lines.

 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cdc-expected-to-reverse-policy-on-face-masks-later-tuesday-amid-reports-of-breakthrough-infections-with-delta-variant-of-covid-19-11627399505?mod=home-page

As I used to get told, "pay attention to this part" it's a good one,


Does the CDC not know about our open border policy? These are the people we are to be trusting for information about the virus?

I DON'T trust ANY of them! They have lied to us so many times that I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw a Moose!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2021, 02:33:19 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2021, 04:16:04 PM
Remember this on come winter





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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 27, 2021, 07:34:34 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:25:59 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 27, 2021, 09:54:26 AMWhy do people who are vaccinated need to wear a mask?

Because even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

I raise bees and many people buy local honey because the bees feed off of local plants that people are allergic too (myself included).  By using the honey, some believe that you develop a resistance to those allergies due to the small doses received in the honey.  Medical professionals do not prescribe honey, but may suggest it and labelling prohibits any reference to medical benefits.

Doctors have, for some time, given small doses of "poison ivy" to people who once developed extreme reactions.  The small dose does not prevent poison ivy rashes and itches, it only minimizes those and makes it so that you can do your daily stuff without much interference.

Which brings the topic back to the Covid vaccines.  They do NOT prevent Covid, and they are not "vaccines" in the sense of smallpox or polio.  They introduce your body to something resembling Covid and allow your body a chance to build up a defense.  In the process, you may hurt and develop minor symptoms.  Then you recover, usually without hospitalization and you live to tell the story about how that vaccine put you down for 2 weeks, and get to report that to VAERS.

I am a poor example.  I have not had so much as a cold in 5 years (I do have allergies).  I get the flu shot every year.  I got the Covid vaccine as soon as I was eligible.  It worries me that educated people fear those shots.  Why am I not dead instead of in great health?

If this is a serious question, not a setup for some man losing both testicles after the "jab" I would be happy to share what others have experienced in my realm.  I can do a quick count of 20 people who had nothing beyond a sore arm, and 1 who was very tired (80 years old) for two days after the vaccine.

I also had to convince Mom (89) to get the "jab", despite my brother.  She is a smart woman.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:34:47 AM
Bad mouth POTUS Trump all you want.

At least Trump got the vaccine.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/01/politics/trump-melania-vaccinated-white-house/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/01/politics/trump-melania-vaccinated-white-house/index.html)

Wow ... this woman was years before her time and developed an adverse reaction to Covid 5 years before we even knew Covid existed.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/09/16/woman-recalls-losing-all-limbs-to-kidney-stone-complications/ (https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/09/16/woman-recalls-losing-all-limbs-to-kidney-stone-complications/)

Answer:  Never see a doctor, they give you bad news and cut stuff off.  That seems in line with the medical advice given by the experts on this page.

When I was in San Dog, there was a group in Ocean Beach called OMBAC.  Technically Old Mission Bay Athletic Club.  Locally known as Old Men Behaving as Children.

This thread .... well, just ask yourself if you are a "Baby Daddy" or "Baby Mama" or if you are really a Dad or a Mom.  Do you care?  If you care, get the "jab" and the 3rd shot when available, to teach your children well and let them live to 100.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 28, 2021, 06:04:37 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:25:59 AMBecause even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

I raise bees and many people buy local honey because the bees feed off of local plants that people are allergic too (myself included).  By using the honey, some believe that you develop a resistance to those allergies due to the small doses received in the honey.  Medical professionals do not prescribe honey, but may suggest it and labelling prohibits any reference to medical benefits.

Doctors have, for some time, given small doses of "poison ivy" to people who once developed extreme reactions.  The small dose does not prevent poison ivy rashes and itches, it only minimizes those and makes it so that you can do your daily stuff without much interference.

Which brings the topic back to the Covid vaccines.  They do NOT prevent Covid, and they are not "vaccines" in the sense of smallpox or polio.  They introduce your body to something resembling Covid and allow your body a chance to build up a defense.  In the process, you may hurt and develop minor symptoms.  Then you recover, usually without hospitalization and you live to tell the story about how that vaccine put you down for 2 weeks, and get to report that to VAERS.

I am a poor example.  I have not had so much as a cold in 5 years (I do have allergies).  I get the flu shot every year.  I got the Covid vaccine as soon as I was eligible.  It worries me that educated people fear those shots.  Why am I not dead instead of in great health?

If this is a serious question, not a setup for some man losing both testicles after the "jab" I would be happy to share what others have experienced in my realm.  I can do a quick count of 20 people who had nothing beyond a sore arm, and 1 who was very tired (80 years old) for two days after the vaccine.

I also had to convince Mom (89) to get the "jab", despite my brother.  She is a smart woman.
No set up at all, but the correct answer is the cdc does not have confidence that the "vaccine" will prevent anything. As for side effects, this vaccine has not had enough time for any study to be done on long term effects. Let that sink in. Makes you wonder why they want masks, they do not work either.

By the way, didn't our president guarantee that if you get the vaccine YOU WILL NOT GET THE COVID?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 28, 2021, 06:22:14 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:25:59 AMBecause even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

I raise bees and many people buy local honey because the bees feed off of local plants that people are allergic too (myself included).  By using the honey, some believe that you develop a resistance to those allergies due to the small doses received in the honey.  Medical professionals do not prescribe honey, but may suggest it and labelling prohibits any reference to medical benefits.

Doctors have, for some time, given small doses of "poison ivy" to people who once developed extreme reactions.  The small dose does not prevent poison ivy rashes and itches, it only minimizes those and makes it so that you can do your daily stuff without much interference.

Which brings the topic back to the Covid vaccines.  They do NOT prevent Covid, and they are not "vaccines" in the sense of smallpox or polio.  They introduce your body to something resembling Covid and allow your body a chance to build up a defense.  In the process, you may hurt and develop minor symptoms.  Then you recover, usually without hospitalization and you live to tell the story about how that vaccine put you down for 2 weeks, and get to report that to VAERS.

I am a poor example.  I have not had so much as a cold in 5 years (I do have allergies).  I get the flu shot every year.  I got the Covid vaccine as soon as I was eligible.  It worries me that educated people fear those shots.  Why am I not dead instead of in great health?

If this is a serious question, not a setup for some man losing both testicles after the "jab" I would be happy to share what others have experienced in my realm.  I can do a quick count of 20 people who had nothing beyond a sore arm, and 1 who was very tired (80 years old) for two days after the vaccine.

I also had to convince Mom (89) to get the "jab", despite my brother.  She is a smart woman.

If as you claim, there is no "vaccine" effective and if as you claim, a "mask" is still viable, why get the "vaccine"? It apparently does nothing to stop the spread, will not prevent the person from contracting it so, what does it do? I would ask the same things about a "mask" which also does not stop the "virus", won't stop it's spread, will not prevent anyone from contracting it so, what does it do?

I can tell you what it does! It gives the Democrats an excuse to stop church services. It gives the Democrats an excuse to close businesses. It gives the Democrats an excuse to stop worship of almighty God. It gives Democrats an excuse to "mandate" apparel for EVERYONE.

It gives Democrats an excuse to suspend the Constitution. It gave Democrats an excuse to steal a Presidential election. It gives Democrats an excuse to steal trillions of tax payer dollars under the title of "Covid relief". It gives Democrats an excuse to funnel trillions of tax dollars to their failed liberal bastions (i.e. New York, Commiefornia, etc.) It gives Democrats an excuse to make all the liberals scared out of their wits. It gives Democrats an excuse to force the country toward socialism, communism and a more Democrat elite rule.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 07:14:43 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:25:59 AMBecause even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

Yet you still took the jab? And you think you're the smart one? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: p1tchblack on July 28, 2021, 08:38:03 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 28, 2021, 05:25:59 AMBecause even if vaccinated, you can develop Covid.  When I recieved my shot, I signed the paperwork that said so.  It included the caveat that "no vaccines were approved to fight Covid".  Very upfront.

I raise bees and many people buy local honey because the bees feed off of local plants that people are allergic too (myself included).  By using the honey, some believe that you develop a resistance to those allergies due to the small doses received in the honey.  Medical professionals do not prescribe honey, but may suggest it and labelling prohibits any reference to medical benefits.

Doctors have, for some time, given small doses of "poison ivy" to people who once developed extreme reactions.  The small dose does not prevent poison ivy rashes and itches, it only minimizes those and makes it so that you can do your daily stuff without much interference.

Which brings the topic back to the Covid vaccines.  They do NOT prevent Covid, and they are not "vaccines" in the sense of smallpox or polio.  They introduce your body to something resembling Covid and allow your body a chance to build up a defense.  In the process, you may hurt and develop minor symptoms.  Then you recover, usually without hospitalization and you live to tell the story about how that vaccine put you down for 2 weeks, and get to report that to VAERS.

I am a poor example.  I have not had so much as a cold in 5 years (I do have allergies).  I get the flu shot every year.  I got the Covid vaccine as soon as I was eligible.  It worries me that educated people fear those shots.  Why am I not dead instead of in great health?

If this is a serious question, not a setup for some man losing both testicles after the "jab" I would be happy to share what others have experienced in my realm.  I can do a quick count of 20 people who had nothing beyond a sore arm, and 1 who was very tired (80 years old) for two days after the vaccine.

I also had to convince Mom (89) to get the "jab", despite my brother.  She is a smart woman.

Vaccines pretty much all work the same.  They aren't 100% effective, but when nearly all people have the vaccine, they are essentially 100% effective.

The problem we have now isn't that the covid vaccines aren't good - 95% effective.  The problem is that only about half the people have gotten the vaccine.

Over 95% of the current hospitalizations and deaths from covid are people who are unvaccinated.  My uncle is 71 and refuses to get the vaccine.  I don't understand taking such an unnecessary risk.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 28, 2021, 09:54:31 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 28, 2021, 08:38:03 AMVaccines pretty much all work the same.  They aren't 100% effective, but when nearly all people have the vaccine, they are essentially 100% effective.

The problem we have now isn't that the covid vaccines aren't good - 95% effective.  The problem is that only about half the people have gotten the vaccine.

Over 95% of the current hospitalizations and deaths from covid are people who are unvaccinated.  My uncle is 71 and refuses to get the vaccine.  I don't understand taking such an unnecessary risk.

Right, and if you believe THAT have I got some bridges to sell you!

Right, because half of the population know what a scam and fear mongering campaign this is!

Your Uncle is intelligent enough to know a charade when he sees one. Wish more people were paying attention and knew a scam when they see it.

Risk? Yes, the "vaccine" is risky. That is why Democrats are pushing it so. It's all part and parcel of population control. Half of the population will die leaving those who know better alive. I hope all the Democrats take the "vaccine"...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 28, 2021, 09:59:26 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 28, 2021, 08:38:03 AMVaccines pretty much all work the same.  They aren't 100% effective, but when nearly all people have the vaccine, they are essentially 100% effective.

The problem we have now isn't that the covid vaccines aren't good - 95% effective.  The problem is that only about half the people have gotten the vaccine.

Over 95% of the current hospitalizations and deaths from covid are people who are unvaccinated.  My uncle is 71 and refuses to get the vaccine.  I don't understand taking such an unnecessary risk.
If the problem is people who are not vaccinated, why do we have an open border? If the vaccines are so effected, 95%, why do vaccinated people have to wear a mask? After all, they will not be the ones catching the virus, right?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 28, 2021, 09:59:26 AMIf the problem is people who are not vaccinated, why do we have an open border? If the vaccines are so effected, 95%, why do vaccinated people have to wear a mask? After all, they will not be the ones catching the virus, right?
Common cold, Hiv/AIDS, cancer? Not one vaccine in all that time, and suddenly the govt forces a Jab on us they claim is a cure?
Funny isn't it, the CCP flu, a flu created in a lab, just happened to have a 'Vaccine' waiting in the wings. Both of which, happen to hold patents by Fauci and others.

Are we really supposed to believe this is all coincidental?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on July 28, 2021, 12:06:28 PM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 28, 2021, 08:38:03 AMVaccines pretty much all work the same.  They aren't 100% effective, but when nearly all people have the vaccine, they are essentially 100% effective.

The problem we have now isn't that the covid vaccines aren't good - 95% effective.  The problem is that only about half the people have gotten the vaccine.

Over 95% of the current hospitalizations and deaths from covid are people who are unvaccinated.  My uncle is 71 and refuses to get the vaccine.  I don't understand taking such an unnecessary risk.

Because the facts and evidence have proven that you have a greater chance of death or harm from the vaccine than from the virus. Remember, only 9000 or so have died from covid when you look at the real numbers.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 12:45:41 PM
Just another Follow the Money.... :glare:

Disclose.tv 🚨

JUST IN - Pfizer now sees $33.5 billion in 2021 vaccine sales, up from $26 billion, and says a third dose of its #COVID19 shot "strongly" boosts protection against the Delta variant.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 28, 2021, 01:24:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 28, 2021, 12:45:41 PMJust another Follow the Money.... :glare:

Disclose.tv 🚨

JUST IN - Pfizer now sees $33.5 billion in 2021 vaccine sales, up from $26 billion, and says a third dose of its #COVID19 shot "strongly" boosts protection against the Delta variant.
Looks like the DNC is set for fund raising for the near future.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 28, 2021, 01:35:24 PM
Well well well, now we have this coming in,

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/california-counties-see-covid-cases-rising-most-heavily-vaccinated-counties

Quoteifornia and its big coastal cities have embraced vaccines in their effort to beat back the COVID pandemic. But a Bay Area News Group analysis shows that not only are cases rising fast, they are rising in areas where there are more fully vaccinated people. Some of these counties have both among the highest vaccination rates, and the highest new-case rates.


So much for the vaccine helping to achieve "herd immunity". People, we have been lied to every step of the way on this, why do some people still keep trusting them.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on July 28, 2021, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 28, 2021, 12:45:41 PMJust another Follow the Money.... :glare:

Disclose.tv 🚨

JUST IN - Pfizer now sees $33.5 billion in 2021 vaccine sales, up from $26 billion, and says a third dose of its #COVID19 shot "strongly" boosts protection against the Delta variant.


Right "COVID-19 Vaccines Are Free to the Public."   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Right the working public is paying for all this.  In more ways then one. 

I predict every year you will need a new shot.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 03:50:18 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 28, 2021, 01:24:34 PMLooks like the DNC is set for fund raising for the near future.
Good thing people aren't buying communism. The DNC is dead. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on July 28, 2021, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: walkstall on July 28, 2021, 01:53:39 PMI predict every year you will need a new shot.

The perfect cash cow paid for by the taxpayer.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 04:13:30 PM
This is just sad.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/476/076/original/970428d52d98bcbb.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 04:19:50 PM
Analysis Finds Counties with Above-Average Vaccination Rates Reporting Higher Coronavirus Case Rates
Make that the Delta variant! But it's still the CCP flu, and the Jab caused it!


He also points to the reports of the delta variant carrying a significantly higher viral load than other variants.

All the while, federal health officials are continuing to promote widespread vaccines, although the Biden White House effectively undermined its own messaging on vaccine efficacy after touting the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) updated guidance, recommending fully vaccinated individuals to wear a mask in certain indoor settings. Even White House press secretary Jen Psaki was unable to explain away the discrepancy in vaccine messaging.

"If vaccines work...then why do people who have the vaccine need to now wear masks?" Peter Doocy of Fox News asked her on Tuesday.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/28/analysis-finds-counties-with-above-average-vaccination-rates-reporting-higher-coronavirus-case-rates/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 04:22:37 PM
Former Rolling Stone Writer Zeroes In on the Root Cause for COVID Vaccine Hesitancy

They're not getting vaccinated. They're idiots. They're selfish. They're the reason why Delta is spreading like a brushfire. It's a variant that isn't more deadly and it won't make you sicker, but it caused the CDC to declare that everyone, even the vaccinated, must wear masks in hot spot areas.

More...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/07/28/former-rolling-stone-writer-bashing-the-unvaccinated-is-the-worst-way-to-address-the-problem-n2593214
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on July 28, 2021, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 28, 2021, 04:13:30 PMThis is just sad.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/476/076/original/970428d52d98bcbb.mp4

One more thing the working taxpayer will end up paying for.  If they can not work they will go on full disability.  Fauci has his get out of jail card. As they had to sing their right over, before they could get the shots.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: walkstall on July 28, 2021, 04:26:39 PMOne more thing the working taxpayer will end up paying for.  If they can not work they will go on full disability.  Fauci has his get out of jail card. As they had to sing their right over, before they could get the shots.
Excellent Point! :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2021, 04:32:10 PM
DEADLY SHOTS! Former Pfizer Employee Confirms Poison in COVID 'Vaccine'

She literally tells us what is in the Jab, and it's poison!



https://rumble.com/vkgdq7-deadly-shots-former-pfizer-employee-confirms-poison-in-covid-vaccine.html


Oh, and when she suddenly dies? She didn't kill herself! :sneaky:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on July 28, 2021, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 27, 2021, 04:16:04 PMRemember this on come winter





(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/380/964/original/bfa3a44c52b82e3a.png)
Hey where are steps 8-12? Is there a 2nd picture missing?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 05:24:59 AM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 28, 2021, 08:38:03 AMVaccines pretty much all work the same.  They aren't 100% effective, but when nearly all people have the vaccine, they are essentially 100% effective.

The problem we have now isn't that the covid vaccines aren't good - 95% effective.  The problem is that only about half the people have gotten the vaccine.

Over 95% of the current hospitalizations and deaths from covid are people who are unvaccinated.  My uncle is 71 and refuses to get the vaccine.  I don't understand taking such an unnecessary risk.

Same thing I went though with Mom.  On top of that, a smart brother whose opinion differed from mine.  It helped that I listened to the concerns.  I have heard them all before on a different disease front called cancer. 

So she listened and lives.   Probably would be the same if she listened to my brother.

Bottom line, she is vaccinated and has not developed debilitating after effects and therefore is not part of the .01% to post on VAERS.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 05:26:33 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 28, 2021, 07:14:43 AMYet you still took the jab? And you think you're the smart one? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Yes.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 05:32:39 AM
Quote from: RV on July 28, 2021, 09:54:31 AMRight, and if you believe THAT have I got some bridges to sell you!

Right, because half of the population know what a scam and fear mongering campaign this is!

Your Uncle is intelligent enough to know a charade when he sees one. Wish more people were paying attention and knew a scam when they see it.

Risk? Yes, the "vaccine" is risky. That is why Democrats are pushing it so. It's all part and parcel of population control. Half of the population will die leaving those who know better alive. I hope all the Democrats take the "vaccine"...

I will buy one bridge, but I suspect, that like most posters here, you not only are not willing to sell ... you also do not own a bridge.  There are many Dems equally opposed, mostly blacks who do not trust the government.  Intelligence is not the question.  Half of the population will not die.  Those who do, will have no voice.

Risk is a part of life.  I choose life.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 05:49:07 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 28, 2021, 08:58:34 PMHey where are steps 8-12? Is there a 2nd picture missing?
Death?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 05:52:02 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 05:26:33 AMYes.  :biggrin:
Would you listen to an expert?
This is a Pfizer former employee explaining the Jab.

https://rumble.com/vkgdq7-deadly-shots-former-pfizer-employee-confirms-poison-in-covid-vaccine.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 05:56:06 AM
Choosing to quote anyone in particular just raises ire and causes ill will.

Dad comes home in his work cloths after a day of welding.  Pipes made in the early 1900's are coated with asbestos.  As a working man, he knows with extreme knowledge, that everything being made of the "asbestos bs" is simply that.  Just wash my clothes, make me ready to work tomorrow, and let me bring home a paycheck.

Never mind that his daughter gets cancer.  Never mind that the doctors tell you "you are way too young for this".  Never mind that dad dies of mesothelioma.  Never mind that daughter loses her hair, that her mom lies on the bed crying for her, and that 20 years later ... that cancer is back.  Never mind that the doctors tell you "you are way too young for this."

All that matters is that dad had cajones!  Mom stuck up for dad, because those who have strong opinions matter. 

Dad died declining the final surgeries and treatments for mesothelioma.  He chose what happened to him.  He loved his daughters and son, and would probably made wiser decisions 30 years down the road.

So now we live in the day to day of appointments.

If you really, really are opposed to the vaccine, because you just don't know ... I understand.  And then, I would tell you to self reflect.  Who do I come in contact with, what happens to them in 20 years, what happens when I can no longer tell them how macho I am?  or how macho those who influence me are?

Those who told the world that asbestos was safe, that laws prohibiting the use, that laws requiring PPE to work on old pipes ... had no clue.  Those folks were out to destroy the working man.  Those folks were mainly Democrats

Asbestos is safe.  I work in it every day.  Look at me.  Who could be stronger.

Your daughter would argue, with love, at your grave.

Again, if you are really in tune and look at data for those getting Covid, especially the Delta variant, that is great.  If you rely on a bunch of men and women who know everything and can forecast the future, get real. 

The vaccine is as clear as can be.  That may be part of the problem.  It is not the cure, only part of the solution.  Yep, just like the flu, one shot does not fix it all ... you will need updates as the virus mutates and adapts.  I happen to believe that current science is more adaptable than the bug.  When people refuse to get the vaccine, the bug has just improved its odds.

President Trump happens to agree with me.  I also believe that many folks on this site, maybe even a few on this thread, know the truth and have been vaccinated.  They will never admit it because the old men of the thread will call their mothers bitches.  Women will follow, despite the accusation.

That doesn't matter.  What are you going to do?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 29, 2021, 05:58:04 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 05:32:39 AMI will buy one bridge, but I suspect, that like most posters here, you not only are not willing to sell ... you also do not own a bridge.  There are many Dems equally opposed, mostly blacks who do not trust the government.  Intelligence is not the question.  Half of the population will not die.  Those who do, will have no voice.

Risk is a part of life.  I choose life.
You chose to be part of an experiment. We do not know yet if the experiment was to
help you health wise, or was the experiment to see how obedient the population is to the government. Time will tell. By the way, have you seen the studies on the long term side effects?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 05:58:54 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2021, 05:52:02 AMWould you listen to an expert?
This is a Pfizer former employee explaining the Jab.

https://rumble.com/vkgdq7-deadly-shots-former-pfizer-employee-confirms-poison-in-covid-vaccine.html

No.  No more that you would listen to the 797 employees who stated otherwise.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 06:01:55 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 29, 2021, 05:58:04 AMYou chose to be part of an experiment. We do not know yet if the experiment was to
help you health wise, or was the experiment to see how obedient the population is to the government. Time will tell. By the way, have you seen the studies on the long term side effects?

Possum, You are one of the few folks posting in this thread that may actually not be influenced by the bs.

I agree that time will tell.

And I have researched enough to know that I will be on the correct side of time.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 07:19:56 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 06:01:55 AMPossum, You are one of the few folks posting in this thread that may actually not be influenced by the bs.

I agree that time will tell.

And I have researched enough to know that I will be on the correct side of time.
Yet you didn't watch the video I posted above. Why is that? Are you afraid you might discover you made a mistake in getting the Jab?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on July 29, 2021, 07:23:31 AM
I  find  it fascinating Biden and the CDC are going to force  vaccine  passports when they have already said vaccines dont  work.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 29, 2021, 07:40:16 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 06:01:55 AMPossum, You are one of the few folks posting in this thread that may actually not be influenced by the bs.

I agree that time will tell.

And I have researched enough to know that I will be on the correct side of time.
You need to share your research with the professionals, right now they are going on opinion and opinion only. doubt me? How many times have they reversed themselves?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on July 29, 2021, 08:45:46 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2021, 05:49:07 AMDeath?

I thought maybe there was another picture to go with that, that had the rest of it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on July 29, 2021, 08:45:46 AMI thought maybe there was another picture to go with that, that had the rest of it.
That's all I found.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 10:39:41 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7d13YfWQAEDmCV?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 29, 2021, 02:33:19 PM
Why are we supposed to take the vaccine again?

https://thelibertydaily.com/cdc-admits-covid-vaccines-dont-work/

CDC Admits Covid 'Vaccines' Don't Work
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QuoteThe whole idea of a "vaccine" is to prevent infections from viruses. Until the definitions were changed to accommodate the Covid injections' lack of efficacy, it was always assumed if you get vaccinated, you're protected against that disease. Why, then, does the CDC recommend vaccinated individuals get tested if they've come in contact with someone suspected of having Covid-19? Why aren't more doctors speaking up about what they know to be true regarding these "vaccines"?

When a medicine does not do what it was intended to do, it is not issued. If it had been issued it should be recalled. We are playing games with this vaccine, it does not do what it was intended to do, we have no idea what the long term side effect will be, and you can not sue the manufacturer for damages for whatever goes wrong. Yet, day after day the politicians are telling us to take it. We are dividing this country into those who have been obedient and those who are evil, selfish, non takers.    Why are people taking a jab that does not do what it was supposed to? I keep hearing "just look at the science", WHAT DAMN SCIENCE? The same people telling us to take it are the very same ones who keep reversing what they are telling us is the truth. Are we to believe that THIS TIME they are speaking the truth? Are we to believe that THIS TIME there will not be any reversals? How will people handle it if the next reversal is telling us to not take the vaccine?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 29, 2021, 05:56:06 AMChoosing to quote anyone in particular just raises ire and causes ill will.

Dad comes home in his work cloths after a day of welding.  Pipes made in the early 1900's are coated with asbestos.  As a working man, he knows with extreme knowledge, that everything being made of the "asbestos bs" is simply that.  Just wash my clothes, make me ready to work tomorrow, and let me bring home a paycheck.

Never mind that his daughter gets cancer.  Never mind that the doctors tell you "you are way too young for this".  Never mind that dad dies of mesothelioma.  Never mind that daughter loses her hair, that her mom lies on the bed crying for her, and that 20 years later ... that cancer is back.  Never mind that the doctors tell you "you are way too young for this."

All that matters is that dad had cajones!  Mom stuck up for dad, because those who have strong opinions matter. 

Dad died declining the final surgeries and treatments for mesothelioma.  He chose what happened to him.  He loved his daughters and son, and would probably made wiser decisions 30 years down the road.

So now we live in the day to day of appointments.

If you really, really are opposed to the vaccine, because you just don't know ... I understand.  And then, I would tell you to self reflect.  Who do I come in contact with, what happens to them in 20 years, what happens when I can no longer tell them how macho I am?  or how macho those who influence me are?

Those who told the world that asbestos was safe, that laws prohibiting the use, that laws requiring PPE to work on old pipes ... had no clue.  Those folks were out to destroy the working man.  Those folks were mainly Democrats

Asbestos is safe.  I work in it every day.  Look at me.  Who could be stronger.

Your daughter would argue, with love, at your grave.

Again, if you are really in tune and look at data for those getting Covid, especially the Delta variant, that is great.  If you rely on a bunch of men and women who know everything and can forecast the future, get real. 

The vaccine is as clear as can be.  That may be part of the problem.  It is not the cure, only part of the solution.  Yep, just like the flu, one shot does not fix it all ... you will need updates as the virus mutates and adapts.  I happen to believe that current science is more adaptable than the bug.  When people refuse to get the vaccine, the bug has just improved its odds.

President Trump happens to agree with me.  I also believe that many folks on this site, maybe even a few on this thread, know the truth and have been vaccinated.  They will never admit it because the old men of the thread will call their mothers bitches.  Women will follow, despite the accusation.

That doesn't matter.  What are you going to do?
SCIENCE!?

First Autopsy of COVID Vaccinated Patient Finds Every Organ of Body Infested with Spike Proteins

The first-ever postmortem study of a patient vaccinated against COVID-19 has revealed that viral RNA was found in every organ of the patient's body, meaning that the vaccine is either ineffective or the coronavirus actually spreads faster in vaccinated individuals.

The scientific report out of Germany published by the International Journal of Infectious Diseases in June examined the autopsy of an 86-year-old man who had received a single dose of the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine but died 4 weeks later after becoming infected with the virus by a nearby patient at a hospital.

In other words, although the COVID-19 vaccine triggered an immune response within the body, it didn't appear to stop the spread of the virus, and therefore the spread of harmful viral spike proteins, throughout the body.

This is just more bombshell scientific evidence that the COVID-19 vaccine likely does more harm than good, and may actually even accelerate the spread of the coronavirus.

The vaccine used is BNT162b2. This is the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine.

https://www.eutimes.net/2021/06/first-autopsy-of-covid-vaccinated-patient-finds-every-organ-of-body-infested-with-spike-proteins/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 03:17:39 PM
Now we know where the RINO balls went, the Conservative women them. :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:


Republican lawmakers head to Senate floor to protest Pelosi's mask mandate


(https://cms.thepostmillennial.com/content/images/2021/07/gop-reps.jpg)

Republican House representatives made their way to the Senate floor on Thursday to protest House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's new mask mandates for all visitors, staff, and lawmakers on the floor. They had to pass through the House, where masks are required, to get to the Senate, where they are not.
Pelosi has instructed Capitol Police to arrest visitors or staff who refused to mask-up, and any lawmakers would be fined $500.
These representatives flatly refused to comply. Madison Cawthorn, Marjorie Taylor-Greene, Nancy Mace, and Lauren Boebert were at the front of the pack heading to the House chamber to protest the Speaker's latest rules.

https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1420835741760991233

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-republican-lawmakers-head-to-senate-floor-to-protest-pelosis-mask-mandate?utm_campaign=64474
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 29, 2021, 03:22:39 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2021, 03:14:04 PMSCIENCE!?

First Autopsy of COVID Vaccinated Patient Finds Every Organ of Body Infested with Spike Proteins

The first-ever postmortem study of a patient vaccinated against COVID-19 has revealed that viral RNA was found in every organ of the patient's body, meaning that the vaccine is either ineffective or the coronavirus actually spreads faster in vaccinated individuals.

The scientific report out of Germany published by the International Journal of Infectious Diseases in June examined the autopsy of an 86-year-old man who had received a single dose of the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine but died 4 weeks later after becoming infected with the virus by a nearby patient at a hospital.

In other words, although the COVID-19 vaccine triggered an immune response within the body, it didn't appear to stop the spread of the virus, and therefore the spread of harmful viral spike proteins, throughout the body.

This is just more bombshell scientific evidence that the COVID-19 vaccine likely does more harm than good, and may actually even accelerate the spread of the coronavirus.

The vaccine used is BNT162b2. This is the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine.

https://www.eutimes.net/2021/06/first-autopsy-of-covid-vaccinated-patient-finds-every-organ-of-body-infested-with-spike-proteins/
This should be front page news, it won't be, does not fit the narrative. Does make me wonder, is this the end result they wanted? the hell of it is there were two plentiful, cheap drugs on the market, had been on the market for a long time, that did the job.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 29, 2021, 03:22:39 PMThis should be front page news, it won't be, does not fit the narrative. Does make me wonder, is this the end result they wanted? the hell of it is there were two plentiful, cheap drugs on the market, had been on the market for a long time, that did the job.
Yep, and the very reason the the Jab must be removed from the emergency list, and removing it off the taxpayers dime.
The entire reason they were able to release it without going through the FDAS required tests, is that it was portrayed as the ONLY effective means to combat the virus.
They Lied!
Now they should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 29, 2021, 04:33:25 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on July 29, 2021, 07:23:31 AMI  find  it fascinating Biden and the CDC are going to force  vaccine  passports when they have already said vaccines dont  work.

I'm not certain that "vaccines don't work", they haven't killed off half of the population YET...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2021, 06:50:30 PM
SEIU to Newsom: Stuff your vaccine mandate


The civil war brewing between Democratic executives and the unions that elect them spread to California yesterday — and at the worst moment for Gavin Newsom. Facing a recall election prompted by his incompetent handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, Newsom rushed to match Joe Biden's actions by imposing a vaccine-or-mask-and-test mandate on the state's workforce. The union representing the largest number of those workers publicly blasted Newsom for his unilateral abrogation of the collective bargaining agreement and declared that they would refuse to cooperate:

QuoteThe head of the largest union in California state government signaled on Wednesday that he intends to fight Gov. Gavin Newsom's mandate that all state employees either provide proof of vaccination or else wear masks and submit to regular COVID-19 testing.

"Local 1000 Listens to You! Cease & Desist against GAVIN! Finally a REAL LABOR UNION fighting for ALL of its represented employees!" SEIU Local 1000 President Richard Louis Brown wrote on Twitter Wednesday morning. ...

The letter from SEIU Local 1000 accused Newsom of dodging state legal obligations before implementing the new policy.

"This is a change in the terms and working conditions of our represented employees and requires meeting and conferring with the union prior to implementing the change," the letter reads.

The letter demands that CalHR cease and desist from enforcing the requirement until the state meets with the union.

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/07/29/seiu-to-newsom-stuff-your-vaccine-mandate-n405460
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on July 29, 2021, 07:00:49 PM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

The gov is going to get his ass handed to him if he goes through with his dumb plan.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 30, 2021, 05:54:27 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2021, 03:27:55 PMYep, and the very reason the the Jab must be removed from the emergency list, and removing it off the taxpayers dime.
The entire reason they were able to release it without going through the FDAS required tests, is that it was portrayed as the ONLY effective means to combat the virus.
They Lied!

Now they should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity!
That statement should convince even the skeptical that the vaccine was never about curing the virus.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 05:59:19 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2021, 07:19:56 AMYet you didn't watch the video I posted above. Why is that? Are you afraid you might discover you made a mistake in getting the Jab?

Nope, I realize that you are a photographer and have that to offer.  So you select what you select for those to view, to influence in your direction. 

Again, you put words in people's mouths.  Show me where I said "didn't watch". 

Pathetic hogwash.

Show me the data on the unvaccinated being at lower risk than the vaccinated.

In short, have more unvaccinated died of Covid?  or have more vaccinated died of the jab?

Vaccinated Americans are now more likely to die by a lightning strike than Covid.

For info, I still go out in the rain.

I was all in on Tucker Carlson for 2024, until he pontificated on Covid, then couldn't support himself, had to have his supervisors support his bs.  Not what I need in a President.

So, the vaccinated live to tell stories.  Funny how the unvaccinated dieing from Covid do not get the same opportunity.

Treat your children well.  When they realize the advice you have given them, God Bless them for understanding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkaKwXddT_I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkaKwXddT_I)

Treat your children well, their father's hell, will slowly go by.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:04:35 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2021, 05:54:27 AMThat statement should convince even the skeptical that the vaccine was never about curing the virus.
Exactly Right!
Sadly, some have become accustomed to absorbing the evening news as part of a daily ritual. Sure, they claim to be independent thinkers who can tell the difference in right and wrong, "it's just background noise". :rolleyes:
But what they don't realize is they're being fed half truths packaged with ominous scenes and music designed specifically for the moment. It's all subliminal...
It's all a production paid for by people who want them enslaved or dead.

The only way they're ever going to wake up and see the truth is when they turn off the TV.
Sure, we can give them all the evidence they need to make a sound judgement, but as long as they gullibly believe this govt has their best interests in mind, they're doomed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:07:43 AM
Pretty amazing to me, that my party wants me to sacrifice kids.

Zeus and Hera are shaking in disbelief.

Luckily the SCOTUS still holds some belief in life.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:09:58 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 05:59:19 AMNope, I realize that you are a photographer and have that to offer.  So you select what you select for those to view, to influence in your direction. 

Again, you put words in people's mouths.  Show me where I said "didn't watch". 

Pathetic hogwash.

Show me the data on the unvaccinated being at lower risk than the vaccinated.

In short, have more unvaccinated died of Covid?  or have more vaccinated died of the jab?

Vaccinated Americans are now more likely to die by a lightning strike than Covid.

For info, I still go out in the rain.

I was all in on Tucker Carlson for 2024, until he pontificated on Covid, then couldn't support himself, had to have his supervisors support his bs.  Not what I need in a President.

So, the vaccinated live to tell stories.  Funny how the unvaccinated dieing from Covid do not get the same opportunity.

Treat your children well.  When they realize the advice you have given them, God Bless them for understanding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkaKwXddT_I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkaKwXddT_I)

Treat your children well, their father's hell, will slowly go by.
That's fine, ignore what a former scientist from Pfizer had to say about what the company is putting in the Jab.
If she was lying, they'd have sued her into compliance.

You don't need to watch it all, just the first 5 minutes, skip the first two of the interviewer, she starts in at about the two minute mark.

She literally explains what is in the shot and backs it all up with Pfizer's own patents.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:11:52 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:07:43 AMPretty amazing to me, that my party wants me to sacrifice kids.

Zeus and Hera are shaking in disbelief.

Luckily the SCOTUS still holds some belief in life.
Wow, that has to be one of the most ignorant statements I've seen to date on this forum.
Even libs aren't this uninformed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:12:55 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:09:58 AMThat's fine, ignore what a former scientist from Pfizer had to say about what the company is putting in the Jab.
If she was lying, they'd have sued her into compliance.

You don't need to watch it all, just the first 5 minutes, skip the first two of the interviewer, she starts in at about the two minute mark.

She literally explains what is in the shot and backs it all up with Pfizer's own patents.

Show me the data on the unvaccinated dieing compared to the vaccinated dieing.

Pretty simple request.  Are you afraid of what your viewers already know?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:16:59 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:11:52 AMWow, that has to be one of the most ignorant statements I've seen to date on this forum.
Even libs aren't this uninformed.

lol!

The Lib option.

When you are so lost in defense, that you push the Lib or Racist button
BZZZZZ!

Good on you!  Always best to know someone is racing to HR, as opposed to discussion.

More and more pathetic.

Show me the data that more vaccinated people die, than vaccinated.

Simple, and you seem incapable.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:22:25 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:16:59 AMlol!

The Lib option.

When you are so lost in defense, that you push the Lib or Racist button
BZZZZZ!

Good on you!  Always best to know someone is racing to HR, as opposed to discussion.

More and more pathetic.
When you have nothing, call your opponent a racist, that'll put them in their place.

QuoteShow me the data that more vaccinated people die, than vaccinated.

Simple, and you seem incapable.
It's in the video genius. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:23:15 AM
Many probably missed the letters from Pfizer urging science to wait.  The letters suggest that Americans will not trust emergency use while Trump is in office.

True, true, true.

Instead, it served to get Biden elected.  Go ahead, write Mr. Trump a letter.  See what he (his staff) tells you about those days after he contracted Covid, and before he was able to get an emergency authorization.

Conservative Americans reacted in horror, myself included.

Could have changed America for the better for the next 4 years.

Conservative Americans denying the vaccine is our choice.  Happens not to be mine.

Do
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:24:42 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:22:25 AMWhen you have nothing, call your opponent a racist, that'll put them in their place.
It's in the video genius. :rolleyes:

Sadly, it is not.

Rolling eyes may be a symptom of Covid.  Go get checked for that or dementia.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:29:00 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:24:42 AMSadly, it is not.

Rolling eyes may be a symptom of Covid.  Go get checked for that or dementia.
Why are you so afraid of hearing the truth?
If for no other reason, the more you know on any given subject, the more informed you become.

Make you a deal, watch the video and feel free to shred it, call out the lies when you see them, then we can discuss the subject like two informed individuals. Deal?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:32:35 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 30, 2021, 06:38:56 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2021, 05:54:27 AMThat statement should convince even the skeptical that the vaccine was never about curing the virus.

Yes, it absolutely should however, for "woke" Democrats, it's never been about facts, truth or science. It has ALWAYS been about politics, political gamesmanship and "winning" the election by any means necessary. They hated President Trump so much that they were willing to do anything to get him out of office.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 30, 2021, 06:39:54 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:12:55 AMShow me the data on the unvaccinated dieing compared to the vaccinated dieing.

Pretty simple request.  Are you afraid of what your viewers already know?
Even the cdc is admitting the vaccine does not work. https://thelibertydaily.com/cdc-admits-covid-vaccines-dont-work/  You keep talking about data, it is being given to you, where is your data that you can take the vaccine and it will work as intended? The cdc keeps moving the goalposts as to what to expect from this vaccine, at first if you take it, no worries, you will not get the virus. We were told the vaccine is the fastest way to get out society back to normal. Now they are saying even if you have the vaccine and come into contact with an infected person you need to get tested. Now they are saying you still need other protection (masks) and social distancing to prevent you from getting the virus, they said when enough people take the vaccine we can reopen the nation, now they are talking about closing section again. they then said if you take the vaccine systems will be less severe, yet people are still dying who have had the vaccine. Why are you not asking when will the cdc start telling the truth? I know nothing about the vaccine, I am not a scientist, neither are you, we do not do the research that goes into making a vaccine, but both of us should know when someone is lying to us.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:40:52 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:29:00 AMWhy are you so afraid of hearing the truth?
If for no other reason, the more you know on any given subject, the more informed you become.

Make you a deal, watch the video and feel free to shred it, call out the lies when you see them, then we can discuss the subject like two informed individuals. Deal?

So your lies have caught up with you.

Their is no data.  Watched the video yesterday, couldn't have paid an actor more.

Keep supporting the "data is in the machine" and your viewers will be awed.

Truth out, 99.91% of Covid hospitalizations and death and now with the unvaccinated.

Posted that several days ago.  Posted the associated data.

I know why you refuse to share the data, perhaps others might wonder.

Go ahead, share the data ... make people post why it isn't true that for every one person saying that the vaccine is a hoax .... 9,229 have died for believing it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 30, 2021, 06:43:30 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:40:52 AMSo your lies have caught up with you.

Their is no data.  Watched the video yesterday, couldn't have paid an actor more.

Keep supporting the "data is in the machine" and your viewers will be awed.

Truth out, 99.91% of Covid hospitalizations and death and now with the unvaccinated.

Posted that several days ago.  Posted the associated data.

I know why you refuse to share the data, perhaps others might wonder.

Go ahead, share the data ... make people post why it isn't true that for every one person saying that the vaccine is a hoax .... 9,229 have died for believing it.
Then why is the southern border open?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:45:12 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2021, 06:39:54 AMEven the cdc is admitting the vaccine does not work. https://thelibertydaily.com/cdc-admits-covid-vaccines-dont-work/  You keep talking about data, it is being given to you, where is your data that you can take the vaccine and it will work as intended? The cdc keeps moving the goalposts as to what to expect from this vaccine, at first if you take it, no worries, you will not get the virus. We were told the vaccine is the fastest way to get out society back to normal. Now they are saying even if you have the vaccine and come into contact with an infected person you need to get tested. Now they are saying you still need other protection (masks) and social distancing to prevent you from getting the virus, they said when enough people take the vaccine we can reopen the nation, now they are talking about closing section again. they then said if you take the vaccine systems will be less severe, yet people are still dying who have had the vaccine. Why are you not asking when will the cdc start telling the truth? I know nothing about the vaccine, I am not a scientist, neither are you, we do not do the research that goes into making a vaccine, but both of us should know when someone is lying to us.

It sure sounds like you do the research.

100% certain.

I have given data over and over, and if you do not read it, I am not here to offer comprehension.

Truth is, you are too busy to read, but not too busy to watch the grandkids.

Find the parallels in the thread.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:50:00 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2021, 06:43:30 AMThen why is the southern border open?

Ooooooh.  Let's change the subject.

It is because the libs have no clue and have opened the border despite everything that my President tried to prevent.

For info, my President also authorized the use of Pfizer drugs to prevent Covid.

He is a good man.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:51:01 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:40:52 AMSo your lies have caught up with you.

Their is no data.  Watched the video yesterday, couldn't have paid an actor more.

Keep supporting the "data is in the machine" and your viewers will be awed.

Truth out, 99.91% of Covid hospitalizations and death and now with the unvaccinated.

Posted that several days ago.  Posted the associated data.

I know why you refuse to share the data, perhaps others might wonder.

Go ahead, share the data ... make people post why it isn't true that for every one person saying that the vaccine is a hoax .... 9,229 have died for believing it.
OK, name one lie!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:51:01 AMOK, name one lie!

That more vaccinated have died from Covid than unvaccinated have died from Covid.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 30, 2021, 06:55:55 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:51:01 AMOK, name one lie!

This is exactly the same thing that Democrats and the MSM did to President Trump the entire time he was in office. EVERYTHING he said that went against the DNC Rhetoric was labeled a "lie" while they went about lying at every opportunity. I've seen this nonsense before!

Russia, Russia, Russia and the "vaccine" is "safe"...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:56:49 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:52:29 AMThat more vaccinated have died from Covid than unvaccinated have died from Covid.
That's not what she said!
But here's what's happening.


CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccination

4,115 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid-19 despite being fully vaccinated.
The total number of individuals who died after contracting Covid-19 despite vaccination is 750.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/covid-breakthrough-cases-cdc-says-more-than-4100-people-have-been-hospitalized-or-died-after-vaccination.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: RV on July 30, 2021, 06:55:55 AMThis is exactly the same thing that Democrats and the MSM did to President Trump the entire time he was in office. EVERYTHING he said that went against the DNC Rhetoric was labeled a "lie" while they went about lying at every opportunity. I've seen this nonsense before!

Russia, Russia, Russia and the "vaccine" is "safe"...

fyi ... Trump is vaccinated.  Watch the last debate and see how different Biden's view was then, when trying to convince America he was the answer, to now.  If up to Biden, the debate would be "why are you procrastinating" while Trump would be showing his "jab" wound and pontificating his vaccination.

Go ahead ... Trump was very pro-vaccine.  Very let's get the US past this and move on.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 07:04:55 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 06:56:49 AMThat's not what she said!
But here's what's happening.


CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccination

4,115 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid-19 despite being fully vaccinated.
The total number of individuals who died after contracting Covid-19 despite vaccination is 750.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/covid-breakthrough-cases-cdc-says-more-than-4100-people-have-been-hospitalized-or-died-after-vaccination.html

Oh so close ... not really ... here is the data.https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 (https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187)

Almost ALL people dieing of COVID in the US are unvaccinated.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 07:10:58 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 07:04:55 AMOh so close ... not really ... here is the data.https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 (https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187)

Almost ALL people dieing of COVID in the US are unvaccinated.
Awww Jeez, it's AP for crying outloud!
I just gave you the stats they completely ignored, and you bought this lie?

Just some information that most don't know. This is the actual agreement govts must sign in order to dispense the drug.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7O1567WUAMpHdY.png)

That is just a snippet from the agreement, you can view it all here.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1419659586936713221.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 07:12:14 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 07:22:59 AM
Quote from: RV on July 30, 2021, 06:55:55 AMThis is exactly the same thing that Democrats and the MSM did to President Trump the entire time he was in office. EVERYTHING he said that went against the DNC Rhetoric was labeled a "lie" while they went about lying at every opportunity. I've seen this nonsense before!

Russia, Russia, Russia and the "vaccine" is "safe"...
Bingo!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 07:35:37 AM
Ted Cruz obliterates the CDC.


https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1420875344597368832
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 30, 2021, 08:23:53 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 06:45:12 AMIt sure sounds like you do the research.

100% certain.

I have given data over and over, and if you do not read it, I am not here to offer comprehension.

Truth is, you are too busy to read, but not too busy to watch the grandkids.

Find the parallels in the thread.
did you miss the part where the cdc admitted  the vaccine does not work?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2021, 08:23:53 AMdid you miss the part where the cdc admitted  the vaccine does not work?
He's missed every part, exposing he didn't actually do his homework.
I wonder if he takes as much care on reading ingredient labels on food or over the counter meds, because God knows, he never investigated the ingredients of the Jab.

Why do people trust a govt run by Marxists?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 30, 2021, 11:35:14 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 07:00:32 AMfyi ... Trump is vaccinated.  Watch the last debate and see how different Biden's view was then, when trying to convince America he was the answer, to now.  If up to Biden, the debate would be "why are you procrastinating" while Trump would be showing his "jab" wound and pontificating his vaccination.

Go ahead ... Trump was very pro-vaccine.  Very let's get the US past this and move on.

President was "vaccinated" while in office! I would NOT put it past Democrats to sabotage the "vaccinations" now that President Trump is not the President. If Democrats are criminal enough to steal an election and get in bed with Communists, they are criminal enough to sabotage the public with a "vaccine". The hype and 24/7 coverage tells me that something is rotten in Denmark. I notice that all sorts of ruses are used to push people to take the jab. Not to mention that the real numbers are curtailed, scuttled, lied about and falsified to make it look like the "vaccine" is "safe" when clearly it's not.

No, I don't trust them. I trust them even less now. After seeing the bias, smear campaign and fake "news" all the time President Trump was in office and the way that Beijing has been given a pass for all sorts of things tells me that lies abound!

Anyone who is gullible enough to take the jab can certainly have my dose!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 30, 2021, 11:56:32 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 09:30:20 AMHe's missed every part, exposing he didn't actually do his homework.
I wonder if he takes as much care on reading ingredient labels on food or over the counter meds, because God knows, he never investigated the ingredients of the Jab.

Why do people trust a govt run by Marxists?
He's out of lsm talking points. The lsm keeps pushing getting the jab, but they are no longer talking about why. The conversation is now back to lock downs, masks, social distancing, lock downs, all the crap we were told were the reasons to take the jab in the first place. He can not talk about the success of the vaccine because there is none. So now he is taking to posting bull sh-t because his IQ is only so high.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 12:07:02 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2021, 08:23:53 AMdid you miss the part where the cdc admitted  the vaccine does not work?

I did not.  In fact, if your read what Solar has his panties in a twist over ... here is a quote from the article he posted telling everyone how "ineffective" the vaccine is.

""You are just as likely to be killed by a meteorite as die from Covid after a vaccine," Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease expert at the University of California San Francisco, told CNBC. "In the big scheme of things, the vaccines are tremendously powerful.""

If we should only look at the data and not read the words or watch the videos, why are you folks posting a link?

The CDC data reporting is suspect.  They count differently today than they did when the vaccine started.  I, in no way, think that they are 100% on the up and up.  I have enough faith in science to have gotten the shot.  Have I said that before?

What I searched for in that article was just how long of a time span that 4100 people encompassed.  Did not find it.  I will go with 15 months, which means about 250 people per month, or 5 people per state per month have gotten Covid after being vaccinated.  I do not find that shocking and given that data before my jab, would still have gotten the jab.

The disclamer mentioned in one of the threads above is also correct.  There is no vaccine approved for Covid.  Pretty sure I mentioned that before also, and I mentioned that I read that before I got the jab, and thought science was wonderful.

Oh well.  I'll read over some of this over the weekend if I get the chance.  It really is pretty important to me that conservatives get vaccinated and live to shout another day.

Have a great weekend.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 30, 2021, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 12:07:02 PMI did not.  In fact, if your read what Solar has his panties in a twist over ... here is a quote from the article he posted telling everyone how "ineffective" the vaccine is.

""You are just as likely to be killed by a meteorite as die from Covid after a vaccine," Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease expert at the University of California San Francisco, told CNBC. "In the big scheme of things, the vaccines are tremendously powerful.""

If we should only look at the data and not read the words or watch the videos, why are you folks posting a link?

The CDC data reporting is suspect.  They count differently today than they did when the vaccine started.  I, in no way, think that they are 100% on the up and up. I have enough faith in science to have gotten the shot. Have I said that before?

What I searched for in that article was just how long of a time span that 4100 people encompassed.  Did not find it.  I will go with 15 months, which means about 250 people per month, or 5 people per state per month have gotten Covid after being vaccinated.  I do not find that shocking and given that data before my jab, would still have gotten the jab.

The disclamer mentioned in one of the threads above is also correct.  There is no vaccine approved for Covid.  Pretty sure I mentioned that before also, and I mentioned that I read that before I got the jab, and thought science was wonderful.

Oh well.  I'll read over some of this over the weekend if I get the chance.  It really is pretty important to me that conservatives get vaccinated and live to shout another day.

Have a great weekend.  :thumbsup:
Even a science that keeps reversing itself? A science that has to keep changing the goal of what the vaccine is for? A science that moves the goalpost for what success will look like? Have you forgot all the promises of what the vaccine would do only to see them all reversed? When this happens we should expect a recall on the product. Instead the lies just continue. Believe what you want, no difference to me, I do not know you from Adam. But before I or other conservatives would even consider taking the jab, I want to see actual data that it prevents getting the disease. I want to see what the long term side effects are, I want to know who to hold responsible and how to get compensated for what could go wrong. They do not have that. See that's the part you keep glossing over, the fact that they do not have that data.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 30, 2021, 12:37:23 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 12:07:02 PMI did not.  In fact, if your read what Solar has his panties in a twist over ... here is a quote from the article he posted telling everyone how "ineffective" the vaccine is.

""You are just as likely to be killed by a meteorite as die from Covid after a vaccine," Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease expert at the University of California San Francisco, told CNBC. "In the big scheme of things, the vaccines are tremendously powerful.""


So apparently THOUSANDS of people are getting hit and dying from meteorite strikes according to this liberal "expert"...

Of course this "expert" didn't look at the actual numbers because of course the numbers have been skewed, massaged, edited, injected and lied about. I'm sure that the patents don't bother him either since, the DNC is probably getting a large "donation" from the patents as well...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 01:55:58 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 12:07:02 PMI did not.  In fact, if your read what Solar has his panties in a twist over ... here is a quote from the article he posted telling everyone how "ineffective" the vaccine is.

""You are just as likely to be killed by a meteorite as die from Covid after a vaccine," Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease expert at the University of California San Francisco, told CNBC. "In the big scheme of things, the vaccines are tremendously powerful.""

If we should only look at the data and not read the words or watch the videos, why are you folks posting a link?

The CDC data reporting is suspect.  They count differently today than they did when the vaccine started.  I, in no way, think that they are 100% on the up and up.  I have enough faith in science to have gotten the shot.  Have I said that before?

What I searched for in that article was just how long of a time span that 4100 people encompassed.  Did not find it.  I will go with 15 months, which means about 250 people per month, or 5 people per state per month have gotten Covid after being vaccinated.  I do not find that shocking and given that data before my jab, would still have gotten the jab.

The disclamer mentioned in one of the threads above is also correct.  There is no vaccine approved for Covid.  Pretty sure I mentioned that before also, and I mentioned that I read that before I got the jab, and thought science was wonderful.

Oh well.  I'll read over some of this over the weekend if I get the chance.  It really is pretty important to me that conservatives get vaccinated and live to shout another day.

Have a great weekend.  :thumbsup:
Panties in a bunch? No son, I had asked you to watch the video. I post many articles here strictly for informational purposes, so I have no idea which one you're referring to..
The fact that masks don't stop viruses EVER, yet the govt is mandating them, is evidence enough to know the entire thing was a fraud from the beginning.
The CCP released a Patented virus, and miraculously enough, there happened to be a patented vaccine before the virus was patented.

You did know all this going in,. Right?

Hell, they purposefully moved exposed people in with the infirmed to drive up the death count and still you seem willing to take a jab, yet to be tested on animals?
Those rats that they did test on, all failed, none survived, but you aren't supposed to question the efficacy of an "New and untested" form of vaccination. 

And you call yourself a Conservative? You do know, critical thought is one of the most important traits of being Conservative, that and no longer trusting a govt that's sold out the American people for decades.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: RV on July 30, 2021, 12:37:23 PMSo apparently THOUSANDS of people are getting hit and dying from meteorite strikes according to this liberal "expert"...

Of course this "expert" didn't look at the actual numbers because of course the numbers have been skewed, massaged, edited, injected and lied about. I'm sure that the patents don't bother him either since, the DNC is probably getting a large "donation" from the patents as well...
Isn't it grand that the left is so concerned about the taxpayers dollar, that they're willing to kill off the sick and elderly, just to save a buck?

But that was only the first culling, next is about 3 to 5 years out when people start dropping like flies from complications of the Jab.

But wait, that's not all, the infertility rate is about to skyrocket in the coming decades, globally.

If you ask Gates or Fauci, they'd say job well done.

But there's a caveat, the only people stupid enough to get the jab, are generally on the left, so in truth, they literally killed off their own base. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: Steel Shark on July 30, 2021, 12:07:02 PMHave a great weekend.  :thumbsup:
Before you bail?

Gee, I wonder what's causing the Delta variant? :rolleyes:

74% Of COVID-19 Cases From Massachusetts Outbreak Occurred In Fully Vaccinated People: CDC

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/74-percent-covid-19-cases-massachusetts-outbreak-occurred-fully-vaccinated-people-cdc
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 30, 2021, 02:13:18 PM
Quote from: RV on July 30, 2021, 12:37:23 PMSo apparently THOUSANDS of people are getting hit and dying from meteorite strikes according to this liberal "expert"...

Of course this "expert" didn't look at the actual numbers because of course the numbers have been skewed, massaged, edited, injected and lied about. I'm sure that the patents don't bother him either since, the DNC is probably getting a large "donation" from the patents as well...
:thumbup:   So many were getting hit that in five states the governors had to pack the nursing homes with infected patients to get the death count up. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 30, 2021, 06:53:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2021, 02:06:48 PMBefore you bail?

Gee, I wonder what's causing the Delta variant? :rolleyes:

74% Of COVID-19 Cases From Massachusetts Outbreak Occurred In Fully Vaccinated People: CDC

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/74-percent-covid-19-cases-massachusetts-outbreak-occurred-fully-vaccinated-people-cdc

Heck don't let facts, truth or "science" get in the way of liberal Democrat rhetoric! The Democrats want everyone "vaccinated" so they can end the population explosion and stop global warming! Remember, Beijing said that global warming is THE most devastating enemy we face, he wouldn't lie now would he?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 30, 2021, 08:45:50 PM
Quote from: RV on July 30, 2021, 06:53:58 PMHeck don't let facts, truth or "science" get in the way of liberal Democrat rhetoric! The Democrats want everyone "vaccinated" so they can end the population explosion and stop global warming! Remember, Beijing said that global warming is THE most devastating enemy we face, he wouldn't lie now would he?
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 31, 2021, 06:43:24 AM
Tell me why we are suppose to get the vaccine again?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-gop-senators-reveal-politicized-hhs-redacted-fauci-letter-hide-collaboration-dr-daszack-wuhan-lab/

This is the man politicians go to to get their marching orders. Politicians use what this man says to apply pressure on others to comply . This country was shut down based on what this man said. This man can not tell the truth. So for all of you who are basing your decision on facts, it's time to stop using what this man says.

QuoteThis information is very damning and proved that Dr. Anthony Fauci has been lying under oath and lying to the American people about his involvement with the Wuhan lab.

We now know that Dr. Fauci funded the lab, approved the gain of function research and was fully aware of their work.

QuoteThis letter by the GOP senators also reveals that the CDC, DIH and HHS cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2021, 07:49:46 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 31, 2021, 06:43:24 AMTell me why we are suppose to get the vaccine again?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-gop-senators-reveal-politicized-hhs-redacted-fauci-letter-hide-collaboration-dr-daszack-wuhan-lab/

This is the man politicians go to to get their marching orders. Politicians use what this man says to apply pressure on others to comply . This country was shut down based on what this man said. This man can not tell the truth. So for all of you who are basing your decision on facts, it's time to stop using what this man says.
We all know this DOJ isn't going to do one thing, but that all changes when Trump comes back.
These people will be held for sedition and crimes against humanity.

Maybe we can bring back public executions, show we mean business!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 31, 2021, 07:54:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2021, 07:49:46 AMWe all know this DOJ isn't going to do one thing, but that all changes when Trump comes back.
These people will be held for sedition and crimes against humanity.

Maybe we can bring back public executions, show we mean business!
Right now I would settle just for executions. Ex. last year 20,000 murders, 17 executions. Liberals will tell you that executions do not work. They would if they were done.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2021, 08:18:10 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 31, 2021, 07:54:07 AMRight now I would settle just for executions. Ex. last year 20,000 murders, 17 executions. Liberals will tell you that executions do not work. They would if they were done.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Executions' do work, the perp will never harm another. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2021, 08:23:50 AM
It's just a harmless 'vaccine' Right?





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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on July 31, 2021, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2021, 08:23:50 AMIt's just a harmless 'vaccine' Right?





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:thumbup:  And there is the data. There is no data that can show you how safe it is to take. There are no long term studies. Those numbers WILL get worse.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2021, 12:41:35 PM
Quote from: Possum on July 31, 2021, 10:37:53 AM:thumbup:  And there is the data. There is no data that can show you how safe it is to take. There are no long term studies. Those numbers WILL get worse.
Agree! A decade out when loved ones are gone, will people demand justice?
Be it suicide due to severe effects or outright death from side effects. Wait, were they really side effects, or planned?
This entire thing is evil! :glare:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2021, 12:42:04 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on July 31, 2021, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2021, 12:41:35 PMAgree! A decade out when loved ones are gone, will people demand justice?
Be it suicide due to severe effects or outright death from side effects. Wait, were they really side effects, or planned?
This entire thing is evil! :glare:

You know, I was thinking about all of the stats you've listed. What if the majority of the deaths were Democrats? What if the liberals are killing off their own members? It is an interesting thought...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2021, 02:12:11 PM
Quote from: RV on July 31, 2021, 01:55:03 PMYou know, I was thinking about all of the stats you've listed. What if the majority of the deaths were Democrats? What if the liberals are killing off their own members? It is an interesting thought...
That's what I've been saying all along, that the left never considered the consequences of their policies, and now they're literally killing off what little base they had left.

I guess the upside is, all those left behind, will be of a higher intellect. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2021, 08:09:16 PM
I'm going to make a prediction.
I predict the backlash will be so brutal, that the Marxists will claim the Jab worked and will announce cessation of the Jab.
They know they're killing people and they will attempt to get out ahead of the onslaught by canceling the program.


A few weeks ago we noticed that Public Health Scotland were being very clever with the way they were presenting the data, in what seems to be an attempt to hide a shocking statistic in regards to Covid-19 deaths and the Covid-19 vaccine. Unfortunately for PHS, they weren't quite clever enough, as their latest report has allowed us to uncover the shocking statistic that they were attempting to hide.

Public Health Scotland have been presenting data on cases, hospitalisations, and deaths by vaccination status. However, we noticed that they were particularly clever in the way they were presenting the data on deaths.

The data on both cases and hospitalisations has been presented with a total for each week within the last 4 weeks prior to the date of the report.

For instance, table 15 of their 28th July report on the number of alleged Covid-19 positive cases is presented as follows –


EXCLUSIVE – Covid-19 deaths are rising and official data shows 87% of the people who have died were Vaccinated
BY DAILY EXPOSE ON JULY 29, 2021 •




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The above clearly shows that the majority of positive cases of Covid-19 between 26th June and 23rd July have been people who weren't vaccinated, accounting for 57% of all cases. However, in the most recent week, between 17th July and 23rd July we can see that the tables have turned and those who've had the Covid-19 vaccine account for 52% of positive cases.

Table 16 of PHS 28th July report is also presented in the same fashion, showing weekly totals within the past four weeks on the number of Covid-19 related hospital admissions –

(https://i0.wp.com/dailyexpose.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/image-230.png?w=676&ssl=1)

More...
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/29/87-percent-covid-deaths-are-vaccinated-people/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2021, 08:35:11 PM
Hmmm, looks like I might be Right, about two more weeks. :biggrin:

"We can halt the chain of transmission," Walensky told "CBS This Morning" on Wednesday. "We can do something if we unify together, if we get people vaccinated who are not yet vaccinated, if we mask in the interim, we can halt this in just a matter of a couple of weeks."

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/07/31/cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-says-we-just-need-two-weeks-to-stop-the-delta-variant-n1466116
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on July 31, 2021, 11:53:29 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 01, 2021, 04:52:04 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2021, 08:09:16 PMI'm going to make a prediction.
I predict the backlash will be so brutal, that the Marxists will claim the Jab worked and will announce cessation of the Jab.
They know they're killing people and they will attempt to get out ahead of the onslaught by canceling the program.



If I were a betting man, I'd say your predictions were correct. My guess is that the Dems will quietly declare that their program was a success. I don't expect the Dems to ever admit or acknowledge the deaths, suicides, unemployment, businesses closing, etc. that their lockdowns, fear-mongering & insistence on "vaccinations" have caused. Meanwhile, "unvaxxed" illegals pour over the border with no attempt by Dems to stop them.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2021, 05:03:05 AM
Quote from: RV on August 01, 2021, 04:52:04 AMIf I were a betting man, I'd say your predictions were correct. My guess is that the Dems will quietly declare that their program was a success. I don't expect the Dems to ever admit or acknowledge the deaths, suicides, unemployment, businesses closing, etc. that their lockdowns, fear-mongering & insistence on "vaccinations" have caused. Meanwhile, "unvaxxed" illegals pour over the border with no attempt by Dems to stop them.
Yep, and with the backlash out of Europe and here, govts are scared of losing control so they're being forced into not implementing so called "vaccine" passports.
I've read where only 30% of the US actually got the first Jab, so in truth, their plot was a complete failure because no one is getting stuck anymore, and that's why this final push at the VA, etc.

I think their internal numbers showing pressure and potential backlash by the public scares the shit out of them, so they needed to create an escape plan and this is it.
I believe this is only the first balloons floated, the narrative will change to "It was a complete success, to an actual end date that they'll tout in the LSM and a third of gullible idiots will eat it up.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: VVet69 on August 01, 2021, 05:16:30 AM
Quote from: taxed on July 31, 2021, 11:53:29 PM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/757/074/original/9cbff2a3aed27a02.png)
can you post a link to  this article so i can read further?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 01, 2021, 05:49:31 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2021, 03:14:04 PMSCIENCE!?

First Autopsy of COVID Vaccinated Patient Finds Every Organ of Body Infested with Spike Proteins

The first-ever postmortem study of a patient vaccinated against COVID-19 has revealed that viral RNA was found in every organ of the patient's body, meaning that the vaccine is either ineffective or the coronavirus actually spreads faster in vaccinated individuals.

The scientific report out of Germany published by the International Journal of Infectious Diseases in June examined the autopsy of an 86-year-old man who had received a single dose of the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine but died 4 weeks later after becoming infected with the virus by a nearby patient at a hospital.

In other words, although the COVID-19 vaccine triggered an immune response within the body, it didn't appear to stop the spread of the virus, and therefore the spread of harmful viral spike proteins, throughout the body.

This is just more bombshell scientific evidence that the COVID-19 vaccine likely does more harm than good, and may actually even accelerate the spread of the coronavirus.

The vaccine used is BNT162b2. This is the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine.

https://www.eutimes.net/2021/06/first-autopsy-of-covid-vaccinated-patient-finds-every-organ-of-body-infested-with-spike-proteins/
Another report about this.  Toy

We spoke to one Infectious Disease specialist from a hospital in New Jersey this morning.  We sent the actual autopsy findings to him and asked for his thoughts.

When he called back a while later, he was clearly shaken-up.   He told us 'You cannot quote me by name, I will get fired by the hospital if you do.'   We agreed to conceal his identity. He then told us: 'People think that only a minority of people get adverse effects from the vaccine. Based on this new research, it means that everyone, eventually, will have adverse effects, because those spike proteins will be binding to ACE2 receptors everywhere in the body. That mRNA was supposed to stay in the injection site and it is not. That means the spike proteins created by the mRNA will be in every organ as well, and we now know it is the spike proteins that do the damage.

Worse, the viral RNA is found in every organ despite a vaccine indicates either: 1) The vaccine doesn't work at all, OR; 2) The virus is enjoying Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE), meaning it actually spreads FASTER in vaccinated people.

https://europerenaissance.com/2021/07/31/global-time-bomb-as-anti-vaxxers-proved-right-the-jab-not-covid-is-the-killer/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 01, 2021, 06:33:08 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2021, 07:11:20 AM
If you have an IQ above room temp, you know the CCP Virus was a Bioweapon/catalyst, in conjunction with the JAB, which is the activator.
In essence, the Marxists created a weapon to exterminate humanity. Yeah, I said it, why isn't the GOP?

Video at link.
At least watch the first 5 minutes...

April 25th 2003 the CDC Filed for a Patent on the Coronavirus

BREAKING!!! On April the 25th 2003 the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention Filed for a Patent on the Coronavirus Transmitted to Humans

"Under 35 U.S.C.101 Nature is Prohibited from Being Patented.
Either the SARS COVID Virus was manufactured therefore making a patent on it legal or it was natural therefore making a patent on it illegal.

If it was manufactured it was a violation of chemical and biological weapons treaties and laws. If it was natural filing a patent on it was illegal. In either outcome, both are illegal. In the spring of 2007 the CDC filed a petition with the patent office to keep their patent application confidential and private. They actually filed patents not only on the virus but on its detection and a kit to measure it." - Dr. David Martin

https://rumble.com/vkl8u2-breaking-april-25th-2003-the-cdc-filed-for-a-patent-on-the-coronavirus-tran.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2021, 07:56:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2021, 05:03:05 AMYep, and with the backlash out of Europe and here, govts are scared of losing control so they're being forced into not implementing so called "vaccine" passports.
I've read where only 30% of the US actually got the first Jab, so in truth, their plot was a complete failure because no one is getting stuck anymore, and that's why this final push at the VA, etc.

I think their internal numbers showing pressure and potential backlash by the public scares the shit out of them, so they needed to create an escape plan and this is it.
I believe this is only the first balloons floated, the narrative will change to "It was a complete success, to an actual end date that they'll tout in the LSM and a third of gullible idiots will eat it up.
And guess who the winners and losers were in all of this?
CCP won, DNC committed suicide.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1421810891734110211
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 01, 2021, 08:42:06 AM
QuoteOh my God, the Delta Variant is going to kill us all!

By Jack Gleason
To hear the propaganda media, the new "Delta Variant" of COVID is going to kill every man, woman, and child in America – at least by the end of the week.

We should all run to the nearest vax center and roll up our sleeves right away.
Our employers are right to be mandating vaccines and those who refuse are just "science deniers" and should be held down and forced to get their shots.  Otherwise, they're going to kill us all with their virus.
This new variant is more contagious than smallpox, polio, and measles combined!
Our colleges are right to force returning students to get their shots.
Babies should all get their shots the day they're born.  We don't need their parents' permission.  This is a crisis!
Just look at all the new cases, up to 63,608 on July 31, up from 11,363 since July 1st.  That's a 459% increase in just 30 days!
If you want to control people, just scare them and tell them what to do, and scaring them about dying from a mysterious disease is definitely the way to go.

The remaining members of the general public aren't getting their shots as they should.  Vaccinations have declined significantly since the peak on April first.  These "resisters" need a new push and the "Delta Variant" has arrived just in time to justify new draconian measures from governments, corporate employers, and colleges.

There's only one problem with all the fear-mongering and widespread panic: few are dying.  In the entire United States, 295 people died from COVID on July 31st despite the fact that 62,735 "new cases" were reported the same day.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/oh_my_god_the_delta_variant_is_going_to_kill_us_all.html

Interesting COVID tracker >> https://www.statnews.com/feature/coronavirus/covid-19-tracker/
Title: Highly Vaccinated Iceland & Gibraltar DESTROY COVID-19 Vaccine Passport Narrativ
Post by: tac on August 01, 2021, 08:58:16 AM
QuoteHighly Vaccinated Iceland & Gibraltar DESTROY COVID-19 Vaccine Passport Narrative

It's been drilled in our heads that this a "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated."

The mainstream media and health overlords have painted a picture that casts unvaccinated individuals as lepers of society.

Dirty people responsible for all of the world's problems.

Super spreaders taking up valuable space in the hospital.

But that narrative is falling apart thanks to the world's most vaccinated countries.

Let's take Gibraltar first.

Located on the southern coast of Spain, the British overseas territory fully vaccinated 99% of its roughly 34,000 residents by June 1st.

COVID-19 is supposed to be gone, right?

But cases have exploded in July.

https://welovetrump.com/2021/07/31/highly-vaccinated-iceland-gibraltar-destroy-covid-19-vaccine-passport-narrative/?utm_source=PTN&utm_medium=mixed&utm_campaign=PTN
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Statistics never stopped the marxists from lying there asses off to subdue the masses.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 01, 2021, 09:41:24 AM
"I am a free man."

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 01, 2021, 10:37:05 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 01, 2021, 09:41:24 AM"I am a free man."


I absolutely agree! My freedom comes from God NOT government.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2021, 11:02:05 AM
Quote from: RV on August 01, 2021, 10:37:05 AMI absolutely agree! My freedom comes from God NOT government.
:thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2021, 06:26:32 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2021, 08:09:16 PMI'm going to make a prediction.
I predict the backlash will be so brutal, that the Marxists will claim the Jab worked and will announce cessation of the Jab.
They know they're killing people and they will attempt to get out ahead of the onslaught by canceling the program.



Here we go, they're walking it back already. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Edit Mine


Fauci: US Likely Won't Go Into Lockdown Over COVID-19 Delta Variant


National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases chief Dr. Anthony Fauci on Aug. 1 signaled that the White House doesn't want to reimplement COVID-19 lockdowns amid a surge in cases of the Delta variant, amid conflicting messaging from top administration officials in recent days.

There has been speculation that lockdowns and stay-at-home orders may be reimposed after Resident Joe Biden told reporters on July 30 that the United States "in all probability" will see more lockdowns. But a White House spokeswoman, Karine Jean-Pierre, said on the same day that U.S. officials don't anticipate another lockdown on the horizon.

Speaking on ABC News' "This Week" on Aug. 1, Fauci appeared to agree with Jean-Pierre's assessment.

"I don't think we're going to see lockdowns. I think we have enough of the percentage of people in the country, not enough to crush the outbreak, but I believe enough to not allow us to get into the situation we were in last winter."

Fauci, however, predicted "things are going to get worse," claiming "an outbreak of the unvaccinated."

https://www.theepochtimes.com/fauci-us-likely-wont-go-into-lockdown-over-covid-19-delta-variant_3928353.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Grammy on August 02, 2021, 04:05:19 AM
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https://patriots.win/p/12jcvZVmxI/a-twitter-bot-check-out-the-/c/ (https://patriots.win/p/12jcvZVmxI/a-twitter-bot-check-out-the-/c/)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 05:43:14 AM
Quote from: Possum on July 31, 2021, 10:37:53 AM:thumbup:  And there is the data. There is no data that can show you how safe it is to take. There are no long term studies. Those numbers WILL get worse.

What is the source of this great jump.

Just 3 days ago only 4000 were infected, now 12,000?   lol.

Really?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 05:45:17 AM
Quote from: RV on July 30, 2021, 12:37:23 PMSo apparently THOUSANDS of people are getting hit and dying from meteorite strikes according to this liberal "expert"...

Of course this "expert" didn't look at the actual numbers because of course the numbers have been skewed, massaged, edited, injected and lied about. I'm sure that the patents don't bother him either since, the DNC is probably getting a large "donation" from the patents as well...

Hey!  Don't yell at me.  Solar posted that bs!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 05:56:15 AM
Life as a conservative has led me to many beliefs.

1.  When conservatives are backed into a corner, prepare to fight a bear.

2.  When liberals are backed into a corner, they hornswaggle the data to make it a conservative problem.

I received great news over the weekend.  My brother and sister in law got vaccinated.  Something about preferring life over politics.  Both are conservatives who would rather live for the money and pensions saved through life, than die for hating science.

Very confused over the BIG BANNER POSSUM POSTING LISTEN TO ME OR ELSE data.

What is that even suppoosed to be?  Is moonshine legal again?



Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 06:04:34 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on July 29, 2021, 07:23:31 AMI  find  it fascinating Biden and the CDC are going to force  vaccine  passports when they have already said vaccines dont  work.

Nice play on words. 

From the mouth of a shark "Vaccines do not work, but you should get them." Ok ... now you have bait.

At some point, do some research into the word "vaccine" and then "death" and then "immunity" and you will gather a bit more that "don't work".



 

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 02, 2021, 06:11:14 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2021, 06:26:32 PMHere we go, they're walking it back already. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Edit Mine

Fauci: US Likely Won't Go Into Lockdown Over COVID-19 Delta Variant


Anyone else find it just a little bit "odd" that when President Trump was in the WH, the Dems all talked fondly of "lockdowns" to "prevent the spread" but, now that Beijing in in the WH, the Dems are all talking that lockdowns aren't needed?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 06:26:58 AM
If you want to fund her future, you can also buy her books.

Scientist?  Nope.  Worker?  Nope.  Rag artist?  Yep.

https://www.karenkingston.com/web/ (https://www.karenkingston.com/web/)

Really?

Get vaccinated.

So, very disappointed that any conservative would post such misleading info.

I was way off in my calculations.  Joe has only been in office for 6 months?  Seems like no mortal could screw this up is so short a time span.  Felt like two years.  So do your own math and replace 15 months with 6.  Wow!

I took the nearest big city and compared that data to the US, relying on Solar's shaky data.

The city has recorded at least 1,892 shootings through June 28, the most recently available statistics, an increase of almost 12 percent compared to 2020's 1,692 and a 53 percent increase over 2019's 1,234 shootings during the same time.

Last year was one of the deadliest in the city in decades, with 775 killed, a sharp spike from the 500 homicides in 2019. (http://"http://The%20city%20has%20recorded%20at%20least%201,892%20shootings%20through%20June%2028,%20the%20most%20recently%20available%20statistics,%20an%20increase%20of%20almost%2012%20percent%20compared%20to%202020's%201,692%20and%20a%2053%20percent%20increase%20over%202019's%201,234%20shootings%20during%20the%20same%20time.Last%20year%20was%20one%20of%20the%20deadliest%20in%20the%20city%20in%20decades,%20with%20775%20killed,%20a%20sharp%20spike%20from%20the%20500%20homicides%20in%202019.")

Then I looked at covid cases in the US in 2021.  The numbers that I found start with 3, are generally succeeded by a 5 (indicating closer to 4) and then 7 zeroes.

So, if I go with the 4 and eight zeroes, then take Solar's data at face value (which is ridiculous ... and divide 40,000,000 by 4,000 what do I get?

That, my friends, is what 3 to 5 posters on this page want you to believe is "data" for why you should risk your future, your children's future, your grandkids future, and why we should explore life on Sunanatood. 

Get real, get vaccinated.  Quit posting bs about data that is only hype.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 02, 2021, 06:37:53 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 05:56:15 AMLife as a conservative has led me to many beliefs.

1.  When conservatives are backed into a corner, prepare to fight a bear.

2.  When liberals are backed into a corner, they hornswaggle the data to make it a conservative problem.

I received great news over the weekend.  My brother and sister in law got vaccinated.  Something about preferring life over politics.  Both are conservatives who would rather live for the money and pensions saved through life, than die for hating science.

Very confused over the BIG BANNER POSSUM POSTING LISTEN TO ME OR ELSE data.

What is that even suppoosed to be?  Is moonshine legal again?
Your confused allright, what are you referring to?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 06:39:47 AM
You posted numbers on reactions, deaths, blah blah blah ... but did not see a source.  What was the source?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 02, 2021, 06:42:11 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 06:04:34 AMNice play on words. 

From the mouth of a shark "Vaccines do not work, but you should get them." Ok ... now you have bait.

At some point, do some research into the word "vaccine" and then "death" and then "immunity" and you will gather a bit more that "don't work".



 
Do some research, the cdc has said the vaccines do not work.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 06:43:21 AM
So I self-reflected.

My view as the conservative saviour of America is that the youth prevails.

No conservative should ever sacrifice the life of their grandkids for the sake of the memory of bra-burning or for their dementia.  Either case works.

If you want to support your life over the life of kids, then get off the Roe-Wade platform and allow folks, like myself, who actually support the life of those who do not have to platform to choose, over choice.

It is always an option to get informed and to make an informed decision ... not one based on .01% of the population getting sick, despite the flu shot.

So get pissed.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 02, 2021, 06:46:26 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 06:43:21 AMSo I self-reflected.

My view as the conservative saviour of America is that the youth prevails.

No conservative should ever sacrifice the life of their grandkids for the sake of the memory of bra-burning or for their dementia.  Either case works.

If you want to support your life over the life of kids, then get off the Roe-Wade platform and allow folks, like myself, who actually support the life of those who do not have to platform to choose, over choice.

It is always an option to get informed and to make an informed decision ... not one based on .01% of the population getting sick, despite the flu shot.

So get pissed.
And just like the chess playing pigeon, that only impresses you. :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 06:51:00 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 02, 2021, 06:42:11 AMDo some research, the cdc has said the vaccines do not work.

ummmh .... that is what I said.   :huh:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 02, 2021, 06:51:30 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 05:56:15 AMLife as a conservative has led me to many beliefs.

1.  When conservatives are backed into a corner, prepare to fight a bear.

2.  When liberals are backed into a corner, they hornswaggle the data to make it a conservative problem.

I received great news over the weekend.  My brother and sister in law got vaccinated.  Something about preferring life over politics.  Both are conservatives who would rather live for the money and pensions saved through life, than die for hating science.

Very confused over the BIG BANNER POSSUM POSTING LISTEN TO ME OR ELSE data.

What is that even suppoosed to be?  Is moonshine legal again?
Follow closely, I'll explain what most don't know about this issue because most people only get their news from one source, the leftist media. That's why you don't know what most of us know.

Conservatives weigh all the evidence, they do not surface scan shit with emotion, and weigh what they see on TV as their only source of information, we dig much deeper.
No, we look at the root cause, what is the origin of the issue, what would be the purpose of an event, is it designed to help, or harm?

That is where one starts, what is the Motive behind the issue, and I'm talking life in general. So we know a Communist Chinese lab was involved because laws were in place here in the US disallowing such research, we know that people who want to depopulate the earth held patents on a "vaccine" Jab that had no reason to exist because there was no disease in existence for it to cure, like inventing an entirely new type of ammunition for a weapon yet to be developed.

Then they patent a virus made in said lab, and by the way, by law, you can't patent existing biological life, yet these individuals hold patents on both the virus and the "vaccine? (Hello, Anyone Home?)
Now, disseminating what we know so far, the motive equation has moved into the evil category, because our govt fell for the scam of releasing a manufactured virus on an un suspecting public. (Was Trump forced into paying the hostage takers to release humanity?)

You think ransom ware is debilitating to industry? These commie basters just held the entire planet hostage, and the only way out, was to buy their key.
And the weird part is, all one had to do is to look at what we already knew, assuming one reads the ingredient label on the products they consume?
Oh, and so far, the virus was like shooting blanks as a demonstration of their power, the real weapon came in the form of the solution. Yes, this was a germ warfare attack on the world.

I could go on, but suffice it to say, we all know the rest of the story, anyway true Conservatives do.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 02, 2021, 06:54:57 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 02, 2021, 06:26:58 AMIf you want to fund her future, you can also buy her books.

Scientist?  Nope.  Worker?  Nope.  Rag artist?  Yep.

=https://www.karenkingston.com/web/]https://www.karenkingston.com/web/[/url]

Really?

Get vaccinated.

So, very disappointed that any conservative would post such misleading info.

I was way off in my calculations.  Joe has only been in office for 6 months?  Seems like no mortal could screw this up is so short a time span.  Felt like two years.  So do your own math and replace 15 months with 6.  Wow!

I took the nearest big city and compared that data to the US, relying on Solar's shaky data.

""http://"http://The city has recorded at least 1,892 shootings through June 28, the most recently available statistics, an increase of almost 12 percent compared to 2020's 1,692 and a 53 percent increase over 2019's 1,234 shootings during the same time.

Last year was one of the deadliest in the city in decades, with 775 killed, a sharp spike from the 500 homicides in 2019."""]The city has recorded at least 1,892 shootings through June 28, the most recently available statistics, an increase of almost 12 percent compared to 2020's 1,692 and a 53 percent increase over 2019's 1,234 shootings during the same time.

Last year was one of the deadliest in the city in decades, with 775 killed, a sharp spike from the 500 homicides in 2019.[/url]

Then I looked at covid cases in the US in 2021.  The numbers that I found start with 3, are generally succeeded by a 5 (indicating closer to 4) and then 7 zeroes.

So, if I go with the 4 and eight zeroes, then take Solar's data at face value (which is ridiculous ... and divide 40,000,000 by 4,000 what do I get?

That, my friends, is what 3 to 5 posters on this page want you to believe is "data" for why you should risk your future, your children's future, your grandkids future, and why we should explore life on Sunanatood. 

Get real, get vaccinated.  Quit posting bs about data that is only hype.
NEVER HIDE LINKS!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 02, 2021, 12:31:21 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2021, 08:09:16 PMI'm going to make a prediction.
I predict the backlash will be so brutal, that the Marxists will claim the Jab worked and will announce cessation of the Jab.
They know they're killing people and they will attempt to get out ahead of the onslaught by canceling the program.



I'm telling ya folks, they're in the process of calling it all off. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/878/098/original/01739a4c9f7ab3fe.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on August 02, 2021, 12:34:13 PM
Paris - protests against Macron's "covid passports", last Saturday.

https://tv.gab.com/channel/throwthefirststone/view/paris-protests-against-macrons-covid-6105dd031bf68c993e86eb03 (https://tv.gab.com/channel/throwthefirststone/view/paris-protests-against-macrons-covid-6105dd031bf68c993e86eb03)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 03, 2021, 06:14:27 AM
Hard data counters widespread public misinformation that claimed "virtually all" patients hospitalized and dying of Covid-19 are unvaccinated. Pfizer and Moderna had claimed their vaccines were "100% effective" at preventing serious illness. Many in the media even popularized a propaganda phrase designed to push more people to get vaccinated: "pandemic of the unvaccinated."

Not so, says CDC and other data.

Recent CDC data found that 74% of those who tested positive for Covid-19 in a Massachusetts analysis had been fully-vaccinated. Equally as troubling for those advocating vaccination-for-all: four out of five people hospitalized with Covid were fully-vaccinated. And CDC said "viral load" — indicating how able the human host is to spread Covid-19 — is about the same among the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Contrary to the infamous misinformation by CDC Director Rochelle Walensky last May, vaccinated people can— and are— spreading Covid. (CDC officials later corrected Walensky's false claim.)


https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/covid-19-natural-immunity-compared-to-vaccine-induced-immunity-the-definitive-summary/

Just more interesting data.  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 03, 2021, 06:27:51 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 03, 2021, 06:14:27 AMHard data counters widespread public misinformation that claimed "virtually all" patients hospitalized and dying of Covid-19 are unvaccinated. Pfizer and Moderna had claimed their vaccines were "100% effective" at preventing serious illness. Many in the media even popularized a propaganda phrase designed to push more people to get vaccinated: "pandemic of the unvaccinated."

Not so, says CDC and other data.

Recent CDC data found that 74% of those who tested positive for Covid-19 in a Massachusetts analysis had been fully-vaccinated. Equally as troubling for those advocating vaccination-for-all: four out of five people hospitalized with Covid were fully-vaccinated. And CDC said "viral load" — indicating how able the human host is to spread Covid-19 — is about the same among the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Contrary to the infamous misinformation by CDC Director Rochelle Walensky last May, vaccinated people can— and are— spreading Covid. (CDC officials later corrected Walensky's false claim.)


https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/covid-19-natural-immunity-compared-to-vaccine-induced-immunity-the-definitive-summary/

Just more interesting data.  Toy
Hadn't heard much from Sharyl in sometime on the subject, but when you do, Wham! :thumbup:
She just exposed the leftist agenda in one sentence, awesome!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 03, 2021, 07:11:14 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/080/974/637/original/47ce4fcabb70c614.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 03, 2021, 09:31:38 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 03, 2021, 06:14:27 AM"100% effective" at preventing serious illness.Toy

Notice that it says "100% effective at preventing serious illness", but, it does NOT say "100% effective at preventing death".

If someone dies they obviously cannot become "seriously ill"...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: ldub23 on August 03, 2021, 09:52:39 AM
Does anyone  know what a  non-sterile  vaccine  is? Fauci doesnt.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 03, 2021, 09:59:40 AM
I had seen something on this before but even more serious.  Toy

Hundreds of Scandinavian women have reported menstrual disorders after being vaccinated against COVID-19.

In Sweden, there have been as many as 400 cases, according to the Medical Products Agency, while Denmark has reported over 1,000 cases of menstrual abnormalities in connection with the vaccination.


"These are menstrual abnormalities in connection with vaccination against COVID-19. It can be irregular menstruation, but it can also be about bleeding after menopause," Ebba Hallberg, senior expert at the Swedish Medical Products Agency, told national broadcaster SVT.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/hundreds-of-scandinavian-women-report-menstrual-disorders-after-vaccination-against-com

Now this would suck big time.  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 03, 2021, 10:12:44 AM
Canada is Awake! This guy nails it and exposes the fraud.

https://drcharlieward.com/his-doctor-tells-us-its-all-lies-share-this-now-and-wake-the-world/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on August 03, 2021, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 03, 2021, 10:12:44 AMCanada is Awake! This guy nails it and exposes the fraud.

https://drcharlieward.com/his-doctor-tells-us-its-all-lies-share-this-now-and-wake-the-world/

Wow!! He did not hold back. 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 04, 2021, 07:46:22 PM
Ireland...  No proof of Covid.
...she also demanded that Ireland's HSE prove that COVID-19 even exists.

To our surprise the HSE issued a statement where they basically said that they do not have records of the virus being isolated and therefore they do not have any proof that COVID-19 exists.


There is no real sequence for this virus because it hasn't been isolated or sequenced. How do they know there are "new strains" or new mutations when they haven't even isolated the original? The vaccine was built on a sequence received from China. The problem is, not even China isolated or sequenced the virus. Basically its all a fraud. The biggest hoax in all of human history, far surpassing the Holyhoax of the 40s and 50s or the 9/11 hoax.

https://www.eutimes.net/2021/04/breaking-irish-government-admits-covid-19-is-a-fake-hoax-scam-which-does-not-even-exist/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 04, 2021, 08:26:47 PM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/126/178/small/5653c16a02c63ff1.webp)

Found this posted elsewhere but before getting all enraged and posting it all over the place - I researched it....

https://aursonline.com/about/

From the site.

Disclaimer: The AURS is a satirical critique by political candidate David Alexander Bramante, in association with his campaign David Bramante for Governor 2021.

David is hoping to point out how dangerously close our society is to having a company like AURS exist, and a world where friends, family and neighbors are reporting each other to authorities.

The emergency orders and government mandates must end, especially those involving vaccinations. David is the only candidate not accepting donations for his bid as California Governor.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 05, 2021, 04:57:53 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 04, 2021, 08:26:47 PM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/126/178/small/5653c16a02c63ff1.webp)

Found this posted elsewhere but before getting all enraged and posting it all over the place - I researched it....

https://aursonline.com/about/

From the site.

Disclaimer: The AURS is a satirical critique by political candidate David Alexander Bramante, in association with his campaign David Bramante for Governor 2021.

David is hoping to point out how dangerously close our society is to having a company like AURS exist, and a world where friends, family and neighbors are reporting each other to authorities.

The emergency orders and government mandates must end, especially those involving vaccinations. David is the only candidate not accepting donations for his bid as California Governor.


It may be "satirical" and a joke but, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Democrats didn't think this was a "great" idea...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 05:19:06 AM
Quote from: RV on August 05, 2021, 04:57:53 AMIt may be "satirical" and a joke but, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Democrats didn't think this was a "great" idea...
Democrats and think? You're funny. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 05:36:54 AM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Let the Lies begin!!!! :sneaky:



https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1423155929453940736
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Steel Shark on August 05, 2021, 05:44:00 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2021, 06:51:30 AMFollow closely, I'll explain what most don't know about this issue because most people only get their news from one source, the leftist media. That's why you don't know what most of us know.

Conservatives weigh all the evidence, they do not surface scan shit with emotion, and weigh what they see on TV as their only source of information, we dig much deeper.
No, we look at the root cause, what is the origin of the issue, what would be the purpose of an event, is it designed to help, or harm?

That is where one starts, what is the Motive behind the issue, and I'm talking life in general. So we know a Communist Chinese lab was involved because laws were in place here in the US disallowing such research, we know that people who want to depopulate the earth held patents on a "vaccine" Jab that had no reason to exist because there was no disease in existence for it to cure, like inventing an entirely new type of ammunition for a weapon yet to be developed.

Then they patent a virus made in said lab, and by the way, by law, you can't patent existing biological life, yet these individuals hold patents on both the virus and the "vaccine? (Hello, Anyone Home?)
Now, disseminating what we know so far, the motive equation has moved into the evil category, because our govt fell for the scam of releasing a manufactured virus on an un suspecting public. (Was Trump forced into paying the hostage takers to release humanity?)

You think ransom ware is debilitating to industry? These commie basters just held the entire planet hostage, and the only way out, was to buy their key.
And the weird part is, all one had to do is to look at what we already knew, assuming one reads the ingredient label on the products they consume?
Oh, and so far, the virus was like shooting blanks as a demonstration of their power, the real weapon came in the form of the solution. Yes, this was a germ warfare attack on the world.

I could go on, but suffice it to say, we all know the rest of the story, anyway true Conservatives do.

Big yawn.  This is new?  Phil Valentine will agree with you as soon as he gets off of the respirator and his liver heals.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 05, 2021, 05:53:22 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 05, 2021, 05:44:00 AMBig yawn.  This is new?  Phil Valentine will agree with you as soon as he gets off of the respirator and his liver heals.
Have you been told the truth all along from your politicians (biden, fauci, etc) on the virus and the vaccine? Do you know the long term side effects from the vaccine? How about the long term side effects for children? Are you aware people have died from the vaccine?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 05:57:38 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 05, 2021, 05:44:00 AMBig yawn.  This is new?  Phil Valentine will agree with you as soon as he gets off of the respirator and his liver heals.
Got nothing as usual I see. :rolleyes:

Does it not bother you, that a flu with a 97% survival rate is being classified as a pandemic, a flu they have yet to release the proof even exists, for a Jab that when tested on animals had a 100% failure/death rate?

You think this shit is real? Then show us the proof that this shit even exists! Go ahead, I dare you, in fact, show us evidence of a single "acclaimed" variant!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 05, 2021, 05:53:22 AMHave you been told the truth all along from your politicians (biden, fauci, etc) on the virus and the vaccine? Do you know the long term side effects from the vaccine? How about the long term side effects for children? Are you aware people have died from the vaccine?
Fingers in ears...la la la la la, can't hear you. That's his reply, truth over emotion is not to be accepted. :glare:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 05, 2021, 06:00:37 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 05, 2021, 05:57:38 AMGot nothing as usual I see. :rolleyes:

Does it not bother you, that a flu with a 97% survival rate is being classified as a pandemic, a flu they have yet to release the proof even exists, for a Jab that when tested on animals had a 100% failure/death rate?

You think this shit is real? Then show us the proof that this shit even exists! Go ahead, I dare you, in fact, show us evidence of a single "acclaimed" variant!
No way in hell do the democrats want this to go away. Then why are they pushing the vaccine?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 05, 2021, 06:27:35 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 05, 2021, 06:00:37 AMNo way in hell do the democrats want this to go away. Then why are they pushing the vaccine?

Why are Democrats pushing the "vaccine"? For control, for money, for power, for political gamesmanship, etc., etc., etc.

The MSM is controlling the message, so the deaths from the "vaccine" are covered up, scuttled, down-played and ignored as the Democrats continue to push the "vaccine" and the masks (masks are made in Communist China). There are MILLIONS of dollars to be made off of this "virus", the patents and the "vaccines". Money talks...

As I believe has been said repeatedly on this and many other sites, follow the money and where there is smoke, there is fire!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 05, 2021, 06:29:49 AM
Quote from: RV on August 05, 2021, 06:27:35 AMWhy are Democrats pushing the "vaccine"? For control, for money, for power, for political gamesmanship, etc., etc., etc.

The MSM is controlling the message, so the deaths from the "vaccine" are covered up, scuttled, down-played and ignored as the Democrats continue to push the "vaccine" and the masks (masks are made in Communist China). There are MILLIONS of dollars to be made off of this "virus", the patents and the "vaccines". Money talks...

As I believe has been said repeatedly on this and many other sites, follow the money and where there is smoke, there is fire!
This whole hoax is to trash the constitution.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 06:40:23 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 05, 2021, 06:00:37 AMNo way in hell do the democrats want this to go away. Then why are they pushing the vaccine?
It's going away whether they like it or they like it or not, people are fed up with the lies.
They're pushing the Jab because they're downright fuckin evil.

There is no other explanation for it, because we now know the truth.

Check this out back in March. Wanna bet he only took a saline shot? :sneaky:

Pfizer CEO postponed Israel visit because he isn't fully vaccinated — report

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pfizer-ceo-postponed-israel-visit-because-he-isnt-fully-vaccinated-report/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 05, 2021, 06:45:09 AM
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/155/176/original/533c851fcf82926e.mp4
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Back to bite them in the ass...  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 06:53:39 AM
Quote from: RV on August 05, 2021, 06:27:35 AMWhy are Democrats pushing the "vaccine"? For control, for money, for power, for political gamesmanship, etc., etc., etc.

The MSM is controlling the message, so the deaths from the "vaccine" are covered up, scuttled, down-played and ignored as the Democrats continue to push the "vaccine" and the masks (masks are made in Communist China). There are MILLIONS of dollars to be made off of this "virus", the patents and the "vaccines". Money talks...

As I believe has been said repeatedly on this and many other sites, follow the money and where there is smoke, there is fire!
We can't say we weren't warned. I didn't know about the Rwanda thing.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/55mJVCcwMfNv/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 07:42:33 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 05, 2021, 05:44:00 AMBig yawn.  This is new?  Phil Valentine will agree with you as soon as he gets off of the respirator and his liver heals.
Ever heard of the Tuskegee Experiment? And you still trust the Jab? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 05, 2021, 07:45:20 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 05, 2021, 06:53:39 AMWe can't say we weren't warned. I didn't know about the Rwanda thing.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/55mJVCcwMfNv/

Whoa....  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 08:10:58 AM
Quote from: Steel Shark on August 05, 2021, 05:44:00 AMBig yawn.  This is new?  Phil Valentine will agree with you as soon as he gets off of the respirator and his liver heals.

Watch this, there is no evidence the virus actually exists.


https://rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 05, 2021, 08:30:50 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 05, 2021, 06:45:09 AMhttps://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/155/176/original/533c851fcf82926e.mp4
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Back to bite them in the ass...  Toy

I find it quite amusing that all of the Democrats were claiming that we COULDN'T trust either the federal government nor the CDC when President Trump was in office but, NOW they are all on board. Isn't it odd how that works?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 05, 2021, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 05, 2021, 06:53:39 AMWe can't say we weren't warned. I didn't know about the Rwanda thing.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/55mJVCcwMfNv/

There is no question in my mind that this whole scam is either because the technology already exists to control people via this "vaccine" or the technology will soon exist. Either way, it is VERY suspicious and VERY evil. I would rather die than take a jab that Democrats are pushing for. There HAS to be a reason that they want to push this on people and it's NOT because they are so interested in our health!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 09:44:52 AM
Quote from: RV on August 05, 2021, 08:36:52 AMThere is no question in my mind that this whole scam is either because the technology already exists to control people via this "vaccine" or the technology will soon exist. Either way, it is VERY suspicious and VERY evil. I would rather die than take a jab that Democrats are pushing for. There HAS to be a reason that they want to push this on people and it's NOT because they are so interested in our health!
Absolutely Agree! :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: HawkTheSlayer on August 05, 2021, 09:50:11 AM
Quote from: RV on August 05, 2021, 08:36:52 AMThere is no question in my mind that this whole scam is either because the technology already exists to control people via this "vaccine" or the technology will soon exist. Either way, it is VERY suspicious and VERY evil. I would rather die than take a jab that Democrats are pushing for. There HAS to be a reason that they want to push this on people and it's NOT because they are so interested in our health!
I'm in total agreement with you, here.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 05, 2021, 03:01:12 PM
Quote from: p1tchblack on July 28, 2021, 08:38:03 AMVaccines pretty much all work the same.  They aren't 100% effective, but when nearly all people have the vaccine, they are essentially 100% effective.

The problem we have now isn't that the covid vaccines aren't good - 95% effective.  The problem is that only about half the people have gotten the vaccine.

Over 95% of the current hospitalizations and deaths from covid are people who are unvaccinated.  My uncle is 71 and refuses to get the vaccine.  I don't understand taking such an unnecessary risk.

https://thelibertydaily.com/covid-outbreak-hits-carnival-cruise-despite-every-guest-and-staff-member-being-vaccinated/

QuoteSomewhere near Cozumel in the Caribbean Sea, there's a cruise ship that had zero unvaccinated people aboard but that still suffered an outbreak of Covid-19. This goes against the narrative that the reason for "breakthrough cases" is due to too many unvaccinated people mingling with those who have taken the experimental injections.

QuoteEver since it became clear the "vaccines" seem to have little to no stopping power when it comes to Delta Variant infections, the White House, CDC, and mainstream media have attempted to paint the spike in "breakthrough cases" as a result of those dastardly unvaccinated. But nobody aboard the Carnival Delta is unvaccinated, a fact that everybody at Carnival and the media is conspicuously ignoring.

When it was pointed out that masks do not work at stopping the virus, the suggestion became to wear two or more masks. Well, since we know the vaccine does not prevent someone from getting the virus, will the next suggestion be to double up on taking the vaccine? I'm guessing here the lsm will stop telling us how effective the vaccine is and will keep telling us how it will help keep a person from harsher symptoms.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 05, 2021, 03:54:53 PM
Ethics? Gene Editing? They're playing God, there is nothing ethical in any of this Shit!

"Two new companion reports released today by the World Health Organization (WHO) provide the first global recommendations to help establish human genome editing as a tool for public health, with an emphasis on safety, effectiveness and ethics.

(https://geopolitics.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bill-and-tedros-672x372.jpeg)

Those who warned that Corona "vaccinations" were the first step towards the genetic manipulation of humans faced harsh attacks from quality media, politicians and activists who denied this and ridiculed the corresponding fears.

But all that is now moot: on 12 July 2021, the WHO itself let the cat out of the bag and published recommendations – available to everyone on the WHO website – on the genetic manipulation of humans "to promote public health" (1).

The World Health Organisation, about which one could read in the media before the Corona crisis sentences such as "The WHO is itself on the Gates Foundation's money drip", writes in its news article "WHO issues new recommendations on human genome editing for the promotion of public health" on the modification or manipulation of the human genome (1-3):

"Two new companion reports released today by the World Health Organization (WHO) provide the first global recommendations to help establish human genome editing as a tool for public health, with an emphasis on safety, effectiveness and ethics.

The forward-looking new reports result from the first broad, global consultation looking at somatic, germline and heritable human genome editing. The consultation, which spanned over two years, involved hundreds of participants representing diverse perspectives from around the world, including scientists and researchers, patient groups, faith leaders and indigenous peoples.

Human genome editing has the potential to advance our ability to treat and cure disease, but the full impact will only be realized if we deploy it for the benefit of all people, instead of fueling more health inequity between and within countries,' said Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General."

More...

https://geopolitics.co/2021/08/04/w-h-o-recommends-genetic-manipulation-and-gene-editing-of-humans/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 06, 2021, 05:07:02 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 05, 2021, 03:01:12 PMhttps://thelibertydaily.com/covid-outbreak-hits-carnival-cruise-despite-every-guest-and-staff-member-being-vaccinated/

When it was pointed out that masks do not work at stopping the virus, the suggestion became to wear two or more masks. Well, since we know the vaccine does not prevent someone from getting the virus, will the next suggestion be to double up on taking the vaccine? I'm guessing here the lsm will stop telling us how effective the vaccine is and will keep telling us how it will help keep a person from harsher symptoms.

The basic idea is that the rhetoric and message changes infinitely. If the argument is made that one mask does nothing, they will suggest two or more. If one dose of "vaccine" doesn't do it, they will suggest two, three or possible a "booster". They will continue to advocate for something different as a means to "stop the spread" and the gullible will do whatever they are told. It's all political, it's always been political and it will always be political. The lies won't stop until the public wises up and says "no more"...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 06, 2021, 05:30:06 AM
Quote from: RV on August 06, 2021, 05:07:02 AMThe basic idea is that the rhetoric and message changes infinitely. If the argument is made that one mask does nothing, they will suggest two or more. If one dose of "vaccine" doesn't do it, they will suggest two, three or possible a "booster". They will continue to advocate for something different as a means to "stop the spread" and the gullible will do whatever they are told. It's all political, it's always been political and it will always be political. The lies won't stop until the public wises up and says "no more"...
I do believe that time is drawing near. :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 06, 2021, 12:29:49 PM
So this was interesting on the studies/trials (animal) for the injection.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/272/407/original/e4f6efa9a8ae49e9.mp4 (https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/272/407/original/e4f6efa9a8ae49e9.mp4)

Two months of a mouse life is 2 years of a human life.  Should we start the clock.   Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: American Exceptionalism on August 06, 2021, 01:33:17 PM
CANADIAN COURT VICTORY PROVES COVID-19 IS A HOAX & ALL RESTRICTIONS HAVE NOW BEEN DROPPED

"... He issued a subpoena to the Provincial Health Minister for proof that the so-called Covid-19 Virus exists, and they were forced to admit that they had no evidence whatsoever. The virus has never been isolated, and thus the government had no legal grounds to impose any of the punishing restrictions they have inflicted on society."


Now it needs to happen here.


https://rumble.com/vkp59m-yuge-canadian-court-victory-proves-covid-19-is-a-hoax-and-all-restrictions-.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on August 06, 2021, 02:03:26 PM
Quote from: American Exceptionalism on August 06, 2021, 01:33:17 PMCANADIAN COURT VICTORY PROVES COVID-19 IS A HOAX & ALL RESTRICTIONS HAVE NOW BEEN DROPPED

"... He issued a subpoena to the Provincial Health Minister for proof that the so-called Covid-19 Virus exists, and they were forced to admit that they had no evidence whatsoever. The virus has never been isolated, and thus the government had no legal grounds to impose any of the punishing restrictions they have inflicted on society."


Now it needs to happen here.


https://rumble.com/vkp59m-yuge-canadian-court-victory-proves-covid-19-is-a-hoax-and-all-restrictions-.html

This has been posted. I will not move it as it need to get out there anyway, we can.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 06, 2021, 03:30:43 PM
Quote from: walkstall on August 06, 2021, 02:03:26 PMThis has been posted. I will not move it as it need to get out there anyway, we can.

Wow, if true Fauci and the Democrats won't be making millions off of Canada...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: American Exceptionalism on August 07, 2021, 03:22:34 AM
A fancy name for Internment Camps.  Hidden right out in the open...from the CDC

The shielding approach aims to reduce the number of severe COVID-19 cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease ("high-risk") and the general population ("low-risk"). High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or "green zones" established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector or community level depending on the context and setting.1,2 They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.

Additionally, many camps and settlements host multiple nationalities which may require additional separation, for example, Kakuma Refugee Camp in Kenya accommodates refugees from 19 countries.

Consideration: Plan for an extended duration of implementation time, at least 6 months.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.html
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 07, 2021, 05:39:22 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 23, 2020, 10:57:20 AM#China This is one of the most disturbing news reports about #WuhanPneumonia:
"Central Theater Command assists Wuhan lockdown"[1/3]

CCP Central Military Commission has ordered Central Command to assist the Wuhan lockdown in response to social instability due to panic emotions.

The soldiers were equipped with biological protective gear and they vowed to win the campaign with high morale.

To make Chairman Xi at ease, the soldiers are not afraid of hardships or even death and they will finish the lockdown task with a strong will
.[2/3]
W. B. Yeats
@WBYeats1865
·
27m
Motorized equipment will be put to use. Dongfeng EQ2050 armoured vehicle, armoured personnel carriers and light tanks were all put to use to defend the roadblocks.[3/3]

https://twitter.com/WBYeats1865/status/1220412775165583366
Hindsight being 20/20, and what we now know about the bug and how to treat it with literally over the counter medications?
Think about how just last week when China bragged about having killed off Wuflu in their country,
while the DNC was scrambling to put a clamp on the US because Fauci discovered an, (I shit you not) "undetectable new strain" that was more deadly than the last and they can't even test for it. :rolleyes:

Well, well, well, now suddenly Wuhan is in lockdown and panic is running rampant? Not even...
They had to help the DNC charade to keep the lie alive, kind of like trying to distract the audience after the magicians dove falls out of his pants, DEAD.

No, it's all a lie, there is no panic, all they're going to do is test 11 million people? So goes the claim, anyway, but they did what they had to, to help Fauci the magician.

Yeah, and I'm selling tickets on my Time machine for 100 million each. :sneaky:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 07, 2021, 05:50:02 AM
QuoteThink about how just last week when China bragged about having killed off Wuflu in their country,
while the DNC was scrambling to put a clamp on the US because Fauci discovered an, (I shit you not) "undetectable new strain" that was more deadly than the last and they can't even test for it.

If the 'strain' is undetectable and there is not test for it, how did the LIAR find it?  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 07, 2021, 05:55:10 AM
Quote from: tac on August 07, 2021, 05:50:02 AMIf the 'strain' is undetectable and there is not test for it, how did the LIAR find it?  :lol:  :lol:
It's Magic! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Fauci: I'd have gotten away with it if that damn dove hadn't died, now everyone is on to me.
The dove is a metaphor for for the Big Lie. :biggrin:
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 07, 2021, 05:58:34 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 07, 2021, 05:39:22 AMHindsight being 20/20, and what we now know about the bug and how to treat it with literally over the counter medications?
Think about how just last week when China bragged about having killed off Wuflu in their country,
while the DNC was scrambling to put a clamp on the US because Fauci discovered an, (I shit you not) "undetectable new strain" that was more deadly than the last and they can't even test for it. :rolleyes:

Well, well, well, now suddenly Wuhan is in lockdown and panic is running rampant? Not even...
They had to help the DNC charade to keep the lie alive, kind of like trying to distract the audience after the magicians dove falls out of his pants, DEAD.

No, it's all a lie, there is no panic, all they're going to do is test 11 million people? So goes the claim, anyway, but they did what they had to, to help Fauci the magician.

Yeah, and I'm selling tickets on my Time machine for 100 million each. :sneaky:
the fact that there were over the counter meds, that have been tested for years, convinces me it was all about the vaccine all along. there must be something really important to the liberals in this jab for them to roll the dice on getting people to take it. And where biden claims over 350 million Americans have taken the jab, I guess the real # is less than 30%.
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 07, 2021, 06:01:51 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 07, 2021, 05:58:34 AMthe fact that there were over the counter meds, that have been tested for years, convinces me it was all about the vaccine all along. there must be something really important to the liberals in this jab for them to roll the dice on getting people to take it. And where biden claims over 350 million Americans have taken the jab, I guess the real # is less than 30%.
Exactly Correct!
The Jab, was the Bioweapon all along, the Flu was just cover so they could inflict as much damage on the global population as possible.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 07, 2021, 07:01:37 AM
The sheep believe every word this liar utters. It must be hell to go through live without functioning neurons. Fauci is a lying power hungry bastard, nothing more.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 07, 2021, 07:38:14 AM
Pulled this from somewhere else.  I like what it said.

What you do for a neighbor is respect boundaries. When you do that, everything else falls in place nicely.

What you DON'T do for neighbors, and no decent person would tell you otherwise, is sacrifice your health or your life or possibly permanently abandon your family because your neighbor will feel better if you do. Or because some lone research scientist in a sea of 350 million people tells you you must.

That's not a request for helping to stemming a problem....that's abuse born out of irrational and illogical thinking. (fear)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 07, 2021, 07:45:26 AM
In July Dr. Tony Fauci joined his sycophants at MSNBC to spout off about vaccinating children and forcing toddlers to wear facemasks. Fauci argued that children older than 2 should follow the guidelines of the CDC and that unvaccinated children greater than two years old should be wearing masks.

And now there is proof that masks are not only emotionally damaging to children but can cause cancer.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/kids-face-masks-cause-cancer-even-says-box/

(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/kid-mask-1-scaled.jpg)
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/kid-mask-cancer-3-scaled.jpg)

I personally believe making a child wear a mask is child abuse.  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 07, 2021, 11:20:37 AM
FDA Defends Americans! :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/353/737/original/56932d0cf0d4596c.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 07, 2021, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 07, 2021, 11:20:37 AMFDA Defends Americans! :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/353/737/original/56932d0cf0d4596c.mp4
A suicide waiting to happen. I applaud him for his stance and determination to protect us from the power mad cabal in this great country.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 07, 2021, 12:02:02 PM
Quote from: tac on August 07, 2021, 11:50:34 AMA suicide waiting to happen. I applaud him for his stance and determination to protect us from the power mad cabal in this great country.  :thumbsup:
If not fired first, then suicided. :sneaky:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WalterEgo on August 07, 2021, 01:00:21 PM


They're not giving up on sticking it to you:

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2021/08/06/502409/mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-health-care-workers-condition-medicare-medicaid-participation/ (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2021/08/06/502409/mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-health-care-workers-condition-medicare-medicaid-participation/)

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 07, 2021, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 07, 2021, 07:45:26 AMIn July Dr. Tony Fauci joined his sycophants at MSNBC to spout off about vaccinating children and forcing toddlers to wear facemasks. Fauci argued that children older than 2 should follow the guidelines of the CDC and that unvaccinated children greater than two years old should be wearing masks.

And now there is proof that masks are not only emotionally damaging to children but can cause cancer.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/kids-face-masks-cause-cancer-even-says-box/

(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/kid-mask-1-scaled.jpg)
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/kid-mask-cancer-3-scaled.jpg)

I personally believe making a child wear a mask is child abuse.  Toy

Masks ARE child abuse especially when they are a) not a protection from anything b) can cause cancer c) can cause birth defects d) can cause reproductive harm. The death cult Democrats couldn't care less about what damage is done to children, society nor innocent adults. It is all about power, control AND MONEY...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 08, 2021, 09:03:24 AM
Great video - some facts I hadn't heard.  Toy

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html (https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on August 08, 2021, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 08, 2021, 09:03:24 AMGreat video - some facts I hadn't heard.  Toy

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html (https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html)

Very Good Find, ST
He nailing it all the way home!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 08, 2021, 04:12:32 PM
Thank you ST for posting this vital video. It opened my eyes and reinforced my decision NOT to get the jab.  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 09, 2021, 02:15:16 PM
Tell me why again we need to take this vaccine :
QuoteAn Israeli doctor seemingly echoed Sallberg's comments regarding vaccine effectiveness. Speaking to Channel 13 News, Dr. Kobi Haviv warned that the effectiveness of the vaccines are waning. He added that 95 percent of hospitalized Israelis with the most severe symptoms are vaccinated.

So you can still get the virus, spread the virus, get hospitalized with severe symptoms, have to were a mask, social distance, where is the reward part for getting the vaccine?  And now they are talking about 5 shots?? 

QuoteSallberg continued: "After receiving the second dose, the immune response slowly subsides. Within a year, many may have lost their protection. We do not know yet, but if you get a third dose, it will be activated again." He added: "Biology says that a fading immune response is not unlikely. Then it's time to for a third, fourth [or] maybe fifth dose."

It's time to ask, are we following the science or the politician?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 09, 2021, 02:55:46 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 09, 2021, 02:15:16 PMTell me why again we need to take this vaccine :
So you can still get the virus, spread the virus, get hospitalized with severe symptoms, have to were a mask, social distance, where is the reward part for getting the vaccine?  And now they are talking about 5 shots?? 

It's time to ask, are we following the science or the politician?

The "reward" is that the politicians (i.e. Democrats), feel "powerful" when the gullible swallow their nonsense. Plus the fact that one can die from the "vaccine" so that the Democrats can claim that the person died of "Covid 19". In addition, once the person dies, there is no legal recourse for the family. The "reward" is that everyone who dies from the "vaccine" helps to decrease the population so that the Democrats can claim that population reduction and "global warming" has been reduced.

Are we following "science" or the "politicians"? Why the politicians of course just as the MSM wants the gullible people to...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 10, 2021, 06:10:24 AM
Obviously a rally going on behind him but interesting information on the numbers. Especially the ones after given the vaccine.   Toy

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/572/345/original/be51bc0d62697512.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 10, 2021, 06:19:59 AM
Quote from: RV on August 09, 2021, 02:55:46 PMThe "reward" is that the politicians (i.e. Democrats), feel "powerful" when the gullible swallow their nonsense. Plus the fact that one can die from the "vaccine" so that the Democrats can claim that the person died of "Covid 19". In addition, once the person dies, there is no legal recourse for the family. The "reward" is that everyone who dies from the "vaccine" helps to decrease the population so that the Democrats can claim that population reduction and "global warming" has been reduced.

Are we following "science" or the "politicians"? Why the politicians of course just as the MSM wants the gullible people to...
If the liberals get their way, the "reward" for those who take the vaccine will be a special card that will show they are better than us heathens who will not get the jab. they will be special and can shop anywhere or any time while us unvaccinated will have to settle for scrapes. I can see where liberals are getting the feeling of superiority since they sacrificed for the "good of their fellow man" because they did not take the damn vaccine for any health reasons.  Every time I hear "follow the science" I picture a bull with a ring in its nose following the rope as it pulls him along.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 10, 2021, 06:40:20 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 10, 2021, 06:19:59 AMIf the liberals get their way, the "reward" for those who take the vaccine will be a special card that will show they are better than us heathens who will not get the jab. they will be special and can shop anywhere or any time while us unvaccinated will have to settle for scrapes. I can see where liberals are getting the feeling of superiority since they sacrificed for the "good of their fellow man" because they did not take the damn vaccine for any health reasons.  Every time I hear "follow the science" I picture a bull with a ring in its nose following the rope as it pulls him along.

Ah yes, the "vaccine passports", a liberals wet dream! It will show how "superior" they are, how they have "suffered" for mankind and how they "sacrificed" for others. Why, the gullible may even make them more important than Jesus! If so much evil has come from the Wuhan virus, just imagine what will happen with the mark!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 10, 2021, 06:45:44 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 10, 2021, 06:10:24 AMObviously a rally going on behind him but interesting information on the numbers. Especially the ones after given the vaccine.  Toy

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/572/345/original/be51bc0d62697512.mp4
Excellent!
This!!! Times 10.000 around the globe. It's all been a huge lie, it's the damn Flu!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 11, 2021, 01:19:57 PM
https://noqreport.com/2021/08/11/cdc-considers-12-of-the-13-most-vaccinated-countries-a-travel-risk/

QuoteThese mRNA vaccines are not Pepto-Bismol. They have profound biological effects. They are encapsulated in fat particles whose long-term effects are unknown. They spread throughout the body (despite the early promise they would not). They hijack cellular machinery in exactly the same way an actual virus does," according to distinguished science writer Alex Berenson.

Quote"For now, vaccine advocates are clinging to the hope that even if the vaccines do not protect against infection, they still provide some protection against more serious illness and death. I think the jury is still out on that question, but again it is largely irrelevant for this conversation – the Covid wards are filling in Israel, and most people in them are older and vaccinated. If the vaccines do offer any help after a few months against serious illness, it is far less than the 95-99 percent protection that advocates have claimed."

So what have we learned about the vaccine, it does not protect you from getting the virus, you can still spread the virus to others, it does not protect you from severe symptoms, it will not allow society to get back to normal, we do not know what the future side affects will be, even if 100% of the people were vaccinated we would still have the same problem we have now. So why are we being told to get the jab?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 11, 2021, 05:44:01 PM
Good question, why do they want everyone to get the jab if it's not effective. We have no idea about the long term effect of the jab and what the ramifications of the jab will be. We are seeing some disturbing short term problems, but what we do not know is what we will be seeing this time next year. If we are still around.

My wife and I are jab free and intend to remain that way. If it means we cannot travel or go to a restaurant; so be it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 12, 2021, 04:31:08 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SPyOzU3LrLU/YRPzj2j140I/AAAAAAAC2mw/VKrd-c29ET8WzLeolw0a6QmqqRiQ5gK3ACLcBGAsYHQ/s16000/1%2B1%2Bdadfsadsdfsf.jpg)

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 12, 2021, 04:51:00 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 11, 2021, 01:19:57 PMhttps://noqreport.com/2021/08/11/cdc-considers-12-of-the-13-most-vaccinated-countries-a-travel-risk/

So what have we learned about the vaccine, it does not protect you from getting the virus, you can still spread the virus to others, it does not protect you from severe symptoms, it will not allow society to get back to normal, we do not know what the future side affects will be, even if 100% of the people were vaccinated we would still have the same problem we have now. So why are we being told to get the jab?

It's more than just being told to get the "vaccine", in many places they are using FORCE to make people take it whether they want to or not. Despite the media using EVERY opportunity to claim how "safe" and "effective" it is, (all lies), they will have to kill me before I will take it! There is no question that it is all political and that it has absolutely NOTHING to do with health, containment nor "safety" as they keep claiming.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 12, 2021, 05:06:25 AM
Quote from: tac on August 11, 2021, 05:44:01 PMGood question, why do they want everyone to get the jab if it's not effective. We have no idea about the long term effect of the jab and what the ramifications of the jab will be. We are seeing some disturbing short term problems, but what we do not know is what we will be seeing this time next year. If we are still around.

My wife and I are jab free and intend to remain that way. If it means we cannot travel or go to a restaurant; so be it.
I'll listen to the news that my wife has on while I'm on the computer. The lsm no longer talks about the promises of the vaccine, only the need to take it. There is literally hate in their voices when the talk is about the ones who will not take the jab, but there is no talk to justify why to take it. They will talk about new numbers which the radio talk shows will then blow apart and tell why they are false. At least there is less talk about "follow the science" as there is no longer any science left to show why we should be taking the vaccine.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: American Exceptionalism on August 12, 2021, 05:27:14 AM
Dr. Fauci and the CDC readily admit that the vaccine is effective for only 2 to perhaps 6 months. Hence upcoming booster shots. So...anyone vaccinated prior to the first of the year likely are no longer truly vaccinated against it. Why are these people allowed to keep their jobs while those that had COVID and still have antibodies are going to be terminated? Any honest doctor will tell you that it is more than likely the antibodies could last a lifetime but certainly longer than those acquired by vaccination. But the main point is that many that were vaccinated are no better off now than the unvaccinated.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 12, 2021, 05:29:54 AM
Ok, so here are questions that I have had since the very beginning that so far, neither I nor anyone else has been able to answer. My questions are, does the law no longer mean anything? Does the U.S. Constitution no longer mean anything? When a person is dragged into a court of LAW for violating a "mandate" or "rule" what happens?

Can a person be arrested for obeying the law but, violating a "mandate" or "rule"? There is supposedly a statute somewhere that says that "ignorance" of the law is no excuse, does that also apply where "mandates" and "rules" are concerned? Where is that written? Can the state or federal government just govern by "mandate" or "rule" and the public has to abide by whatever their "mandate" or "rule" is? If say, slavery or some other discriminatory practice were "mandated", would that carry the same weight as a law? Does law enforcement have to enforce "mandates" and "rules" the same as "laws"?

If the answers are "No" that "mandates" and "rules" are NOT enforceable, then why are people following the bogus "mandates" and "rules"? If the answers are "Yes" that "mandates" and "rules" ARE enforceable, then why have laws and the U.S. Constitution?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 12, 2021, 06:51:54 AM
Quote from: RV on August 12, 2021, 05:29:54 AMOk, so here are questions that I have had since the very beginning that so far, neither I nor anyone else has been able to answer. My questions are, does the law no longer mean anything? Does the U.S. Constitution no longer mean anything? When a person is dragged into a court of LAW for violating a "mandate" or "rule" what happens?

Can a person be arrested for obeying the law but, violating a "mandate" or "rule"? There is supposedly a statute somewhere that says that "ignorance" of the law is no excuse, does that also apply where "mandates" and "rules" are concerned? Where is that written? Can the state or federal government just govern by "mandate" or "rule" and the public has to abide by whatever their "mandate" or "rule" is? If say, slavery or some other discriminatory practice were "mandated", would that carry the same weight as a law? Does law enforcement have to enforce "mandates" and "rules" the same as "laws"?

If the answers are "No" that "mandates" and "rules" are NOT enforceable, then why are people following the bogus "mandates" and "rules"? If the answers are "Yes" that "mandates" and "rules" ARE enforceable, then why have laws and the U.S. Constitution?
If for no other reason, it's all about media consumption. The Marxists know what they're doing is unconstitutional and illegal, but they do it anyway, because they know they will never be held personally responsible.

But it makes for great deception, they know the masses will believe whatever they're shown on TV, so it's just one more level of control over the masses.
I think this meme says it all.







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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 12, 2021, 07:57:08 AM
QuoteCOVID Fatality Rate Hits Lowest Level on Record Despite Media Hysteria Over Delta

 By Taylor Penley August 11, 2021 at 2:21pm

We've been hearing a lot about the delta variant lately, and it's no surprise to see COVID-related fears flaring up again.

Everyone's asking how this variant might affect them if they are unfortunate enough to catch it — with or without a vaccine or natural antibodies already inside them — and it seems like the answers keep coming in a more confusing way each time.

But it's important to note some other key info surrounding the coronavirus that has consumed nearly a year-and-a-half of our lives, particularly the fatality rate we heard so much about in the past.
...
In any case, as we adjust the COVID-19 Data Explorer to display the fatality rate in the United States, we see a sharp decline beginning around July 15 — a decline taking us from 2.29 percent to around 0.70 percent as of Tuesday.

https://www.westernjournal.com/bombshell-covid-fatality-rate-hits-lowest-level-record-despite-media-hysteria-delta/?ff_source=site&ff_medium=aggregator10&ff_campaign=can
Yet we still are being pressured by the marxists to get the jab and wear a mask.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 14, 2021, 08:16:31 AM
If you want to see a condensed version of what we have been saying all along: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/08/11/fda-knew-there-would-be-many-covid-cases-among-the-fully-vaccinated/

QuoteBecause no one has been able to come up with a specimen of the actual SARS-CoV-2 virus."

"Right."

"So tell me—what does that indicate? I'll tell you what it indicates. You can't prove the SARS-CoV-2 virus exists. It doesn't exist."

And the ones who are lying and covering up the facts are the ones telling us we need to take the shot. They no longer say why we need to, just shut up and take it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 14, 2021, 09:19:33 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 14, 2021, 08:16:31 AMIf you want to see a condensed version of what we have been saying all along: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/08/11/fda-knew-there-would-be-many-covid-cases-among-the-fully-vaccinated/

And the ones who are lying and covering up the facts are the ones telling us we need to take the shot. They no longer say why we need to, just shut up and take it.
Bingo!!!
I am now fully convinced that what they claimed to be Covid 19, was in all actuality, the common flu that's been circling the globe since time began.
This is why there were no reported flu cases, they needed an excuse to introduce their population control vaccine.

Yes, it was a vaccine designed to protect their precious planet from Humanity.
They see the masses as germs on Gaia that needs to be eradicated.

Their time is limited, it won't be long before the masses eradicate these Marxist scum.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on August 14, 2021, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: RV on August 12, 2021, 05:29:54 AMOk, so here are questions that I have had since the very beginning that so far, neither I nor anyone else has been able to answer. My questions are, does the law no longer mean anything? Does the U.S. Constitution no longer mean anything? When a person is dragged into a court of LAW for violating a "mandate" or "rule" what happens?

Can a person be arrested for obeying the law but, violating a "mandate" or "rule"? There is supposedly a statute somewhere that says that "ignorance" of the law is no excuse, does that also apply where "mandates" and "rules" are concerned? Where is that written? Can the state or federal government just govern by "mandate" or "rule" and the public has to abide by whatever their "mandate" or "rule" is? If say, slavery or some other discriminatory practice were "mandated", would that carry the same weight as a law? Does law enforcement have to enforce "mandates" and "rules" the same as "laws"?

If the answers are "No" that "mandates" and "rules" are NOT enforceable, then why are people following the bogus "mandates" and "rules"? If the answers are "Yes" that "mandates" and "rules" ARE enforceable, then why have laws and the U.S. Constitution?

As I understand it, mandates and such are NOT LAWS, which means that even tho the police may arrest you, wrongfully, but they cannot prosecute or punish you for a mandate. When we had our mandate here, for one month only, when a business told me there was a mandate I told them it wasnt enforceable and to call the cops. They relented every time. The business wouldnt make the rule itself or call upon its right to refuse service, they would try to hide behind the mandate and say it was the city, not them.

The authorities are just using mandates because they know they cannot get away with laws requiring masks in most places and they depend on the sheep to just obey. So in reality these mandates are all bark and no bite. Just big brothers trying to convince you they are more powerful than they really are.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 14, 2021, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on August 14, 2021, 10:13:19 AMAs I understand it, mandates and such are NOT LAWS, which means that even tho the police may arrest you, wrongfully, but they cannot prosecute or punish you for a mandate. When we had our mandate here, for one month only, when a business told me there was a mandate I told them it wasnt enforceable and to call the cops. They relented every time. The business wouldnt make the rule itself or call upon its right to refuse service, they would try to hide behind the mandate and say it was the city, not them.

The authorities are just using mandates because they know they cannot get away with laws requiring masks in most places and they depend on the sheep to just obey. So in reality these mandates are all bark and no bite. Just big brothers trying to convince you they are more powerful than they really are.

 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 15, 2021, 07:37:28 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 16, 2021, 06:13:57 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 15, 2021, 07:37:28 PM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/082/121/973/original/ea648d7a5cd2efcd.jpg)

 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 16, 2021, 06:16:17 AM
Quote from: RV on August 16, 2021, 06:13:57 AM:thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
:biggrin:
He speaks the Truth!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 17, 2021, 10:16:05 AM
https://twitter.com/The_Plandemic/status/1425299406329454596
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 17, 2021, 01:41:42 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2021, 10:16:05 AMhttps://twitter.com/The_Plandemic/status/1425299406329454596

Wish we had more folks in the federal government who had this kind of backbone, ethics and chitzpaugh!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 17, 2021, 02:34:30 PM
Quote from: RV on August 17, 2021, 01:41:42 PMWish we had more folks in the federal government who had this kind of backbone, ethics and chitzpaugh!
I see where the Air Force is finally balking at the idea. Must have saw a real man (Marine General) stand up for the first time in their life.
"We can do that"? :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 17, 2021, 02:59:29 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2021, 02:34:30 PMI see where the Air Force is finally balking at the idea. Must have saw a real man (Marine General) stand up for the first time in their life.
"We can do that"? :lol:
Over the next couple of days many of those in charge of the military will realize biden is commander in chief in title only, his power is gone, his authority is gone, his backing is gone. Now is the time to get the military back in order.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 17, 2021, 03:24:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2021, 10:16:05 AMhttps://twitter.com/The_Plandemic/status/1425299406329454596

My kind of general, kick ass and the hell with names.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 17, 2021, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 17, 2021, 02:59:29 PMOver the next couple of days many of those in charge of the military will realize biden is commander in chief in title only, his power is gone, his authority is gone, his backing is gone. Now is the time to get the military back in order.
They're begging for Trump to hurry up. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 17, 2021, 05:06:56 PM
I'm not saying I believe ALL of this, but it really does beg the question. What's in the JAB?



Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 17, 2021, 06:28:20 PM
Hadn't seen this one yet...  Wow.  Toy

1) Decrease in your immune system
2) Antibody Dependent Enhancements (Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) occurs when antibodies, instead of blocking an infection, make it much worse.)
3} Blood clots


https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ecux1OTy56oK/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 18, 2021, 06:58:12 AM
Just thought this was interesting.  Toy (Pulled from another person)

LATEST VAERS COVID VACCINE ADVERSE EVENT DATA THROUGH AUG 8, 2021

571,830 Total Reports of adverse effects*
* note: Only between 1-10% of adverse events are reported in VAERS

BROKEN DOWN BY AGE
--------------------------------
0 - 17 YEARS OLD:
▪21 Deaths
▪200 Life Threating
▪71 Permanently Disabled

18 - 29 YEARS OLD:
▪108 Deaths
▪726 Life Threating
▪919 Permanently Disabled

30 - 49 YEARS OLD
▪447 Deaths
▪2,565 Life Threating
▪3,395 Permanently Disabled

50 - 64 YEARS OLD
▪1,141 Deaths
▪2,676 Life Threating
▪3,015 Permanently Disabled

65 + YEARS OLD
▪6,203 Deaths
▪3,599 Life Threating
▪2,923 Permanently Disabled

UNKNOWN AGE
▪4,872 Deaths
▪3,373 Life Threating
▪5,721 Permanently Disabled
--------------------------------
TOTAL EVENTS:
▪DEATHS: 12,791
▪LIFE THREATENING: 13,140
▪PERMANENTLY DISABLED: 16,044
▪HOSPITALIZATIONS: 51,242
▪ANAPHYLAXIS: 5,282
▪BELL'S PALSY: 4,461
▪MISCARRIAGES: 1,505
▪HEART ATTACKS: 5,590
▪SEVERE ALLERGY: 24,305
▪SHINGLES: 6,784
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 18, 2021, 07:13:33 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 18, 2021, 06:58:12 AMJust thought this was interesting.  Toy (Pulled from another person)

LATEST VAERS COVID VACCINE ADVERSE EVENT DATA THROUGH AUG 8, 2021

571,830 Total Reports of adverse effects*
* note: Only between 1-10% of adverse events are reported in VAERS

BROKEN DOWN BY AGE
--------------------------------
0 - 17 YEARS OLD:
▪21 Deaths
▪200 Life Threating
▪71 Permanently Disabled

18 - 29 YEARS OLD:
▪108 Deaths
▪726 Life Threating
▪919 Permanently Disabled

30 - 49 YEARS OLD
▪447 Deaths
▪2,565 Life Threating
▪3,395 Permanently Disabled

50 - 64 YEARS OLD
▪1,141 Deaths
▪2,676 Life Threating
▪3,015 Permanently Disabled

65 + YEARS OLD
▪6,203 Deaths
▪3,599 Life Threating
▪2,923 Permanently Disabled

UNKNOWN AGE
▪4,872 Deaths
▪3,373 Life Threating
▪5,721 Permanently Disabled
--------------------------------
TOTAL EVENTS:
▪DEATHS: 12,791
▪LIFE THREATENING: 13,140
▪PERMANENTLY DISABLED: 16,044
▪HOSPITALIZATIONS: 51,242
▪ANAPHYLAXIS: 5,282
▪BELL'S PALSY: 4,461
▪MISCARRIAGES: 1,505
▪HEART ATTACKS: 5,590
▪SEVERE ALLERGY: 24,305
▪SHINGLES: 6,784

It makes me wonder if getting Trump out of the WH was not the only reason for the Democrat plan...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on August 18, 2021, 07:25:54 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 18, 2021, 06:58:12 AMJust thought this was interesting.  Toy (Pulled from another person)

LATEST VAERS COVID VACCINE ADVERSE EVENT DATA THROUGH AUG 8, 2021

571,830 Total Reports of adverse effects*
* note: Only between 1-10% of adverse events are reported in VAERS

BROKEN DOWN BY AGE
--------------------------------
0 - 17 YEARS OLD:
▪21 Deaths
▪200 Life Threating
▪71 Permanently Disabled

18 - 29 YEARS OLD:
▪108 Deaths
▪726 Life Threating
▪919 Permanently Disabled

30 - 49 YEARS OLD
▪447 Deaths
▪2,565 Life Threating
▪3,395 Permanently Disabled

50 - 64 YEARS OLD
▪1,141 Deaths
▪2,676 Life Threating
▪3,015 Permanently Disabled

65 + YEARS OLD
▪6,203 Deaths
▪3,599 Life Threating
▪2,923 Permanently Disabled

UNKNOWN AGE
▪4,872 Deaths
▪3,373 Life Threating
▪5,721 Permanently Disabled
--------------------------------
TOTAL EVENTS:
▪DEATHS: 12,791
▪LIFE THREATENING: 13,140
▪PERMANENTLY DISABLED: 16,044
▪HOSPITALIZATIONS: 51,242
▪ANAPHYLAXIS: 5,282
▪BELL'S PALSY: 4,461
▪MISCARRIAGES: 1,505
▪HEART ATTACKS: 5,590
▪SEVERE ALLERGY: 24,305
▪SHINGLES: 6,784

Like always. This is ONLY what they are reporting.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 18, 2021, 07:48:07 AM
Quote from: RV on August 18, 2021, 07:13:33 AMIt makes me wonder if getting Trump out of the WH was not the only reason for the Democrat plan...
You might have nailed onto something. There was no reason to "want" biden.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 19, 2021, 01:26:08 PM
Why they stopped testing the Jab on animals.....


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/082/512/341/original/853ec5c2f40af925.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 19, 2021, 02:27:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2021, 01:26:08 PMWhy they stopped testing the Jab on animals.....


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/082/512/341/original/853ec5c2f40af925.mp4
They are still testing it on sheep.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 19, 2021, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 19, 2021, 02:27:58 PMThey are still testing it on sheep.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Very stupid sheep! :glare:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 19, 2021, 02:44:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2021, 02:32:24 PM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Very stupid sheep! :glare:
Also know as sheeples.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 19, 2021, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 19, 2021, 02:44:37 PMAlso know as sheeples.  :thumbup:
I can understand a few getting it early on when Trump pushed to release it, but now that we know its ingredients and that there is no actual pandemic, that it's just the Flu? You'd have to be a complete moron to get it.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 19, 2021, 03:06:57 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2021, 03:04:33 PMI can understand a few getting it early on when Trump pushed to release it, but now that we know its ingredients and that there is no actual pandemic, that it's just the Flu? You'd have to be a complete moron to get it.

...and "woke"!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 19, 2021, 03:21:21 PM
So this story from Australia is interesting....

Vaccinated Australian Minister Develops Bell's Palsy on Live Televised COVID-19 Press Conference

"We are focused on Covid but there are plenty of other health problems going on. If you have any health concerns – please get them looked after," he said.

He got the AstraZeneca shot on 7/23/21...
https://archive.vn/01AZh#selection-1713.0-1713.154

https://welovetrump.com/2021/08/19/vaccinated-australian-minister-develops-bells-palsy-on-live-televised-covid-19-press-conference/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 19, 2021, 03:42:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2021, 03:04:33 PMI can understand a few getting it early on when Trump pushed to release it, but now that we know its ingredients and that there is no actual pandemic, that it's just the Flu? You'd have to be a complete moron to get it.
Once you get the masses scared, you can convince them of almost anything. IMHO that is why the masks were so important, they did not protect anyone from anything but everywhere the sheeple went, they SAW the pandemic. It was everywhere! They had to get protected. In comes the jab. Without the masks, far fewer people probably would have "needed" the vaccine. It became evident from the get go that there was going to be 50% who saw through the bull sh-t, so the liberals had to turn it into a "us against the bad guys" type of hoax. When that did not work, here comes another strain and we need to mask up again. People need that visual to realize how much we need to government to tell us what to do, and the government tells us to get the jab. Once the masses get the jab, they will not admit they were wrong.
Now add the need for the masks to get attention away from the economy, Afghanistan, etc, and we may never see the need for them to go away.



Just a rant, don't take it too seriously, I worked with a jackhammer all day and a lot, or a good % of whats left in the brain department got rattled.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 19, 2021, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 19, 2021, 03:42:20 PMOnce you get the masses scared, you can convince them of almost anything. IMHO that is why the masks were so important, they did not protect anyone from anything but everywhere the sheeple went, they SAW the pandemic. It was everywhere! They had to get protected. In comes the jab. Without the masks, far fewer people probably would have "needed" the vaccine. It became evident from the get go that there was going to be 50% who saw through the bull sh-t, so the liberals had to turn it into a "us against the bad guys" type of hoax. When that did not work, here comes another strain and we need to mask up again. People need that visual to realize how much we need to government to tell us what to do, and the government tells us to get the jab. Once the masses get the jab, they will not admit they were wrong.
Now add the need for the masks to get attention away from the economy, Afghanistan, etc, and we may never see the need for them to go away.


Just a rant, don't take it too seriously, I worked with a jackhammer all day and a lot, or a good % of whats left in the brain department got rattled.

I am sorry that you were on a jackhammer all day but, you have more intelligence than you believe. I hadn't thought of it this way and you may very well have a valid point. The masks won't protect anyone but, they do emphasize to everyone that they "have" to get the "vaccine" and they "have" to wear a mask or they will get infected and "die". You are also correct that it is completely based on politics not science and is a hoax.

The average "woke" person is not paying attention to the actual facts, they are just believing whatever the CDC and the DNC tells them. They are told that it is all based on "science" so they believe it. They are told that they "have" to "social distance" and they "have" to wear a mask. As I have said before, if the CDC and the DNC tells them to roll in dog feces to be "safe", they would do that also.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 20, 2021, 05:05:47 AM
Here is more information on the jab, I hope it is not correct, but my gut tells me it is spot on.
https://uncanceled.news/shocking-new-study-reveals-covid-vaccines-do-permanent-damage-to-62-of-recipients/

QuoteDid you know the Moderna Covid-19 "vaccine' contains 40 trillion mRNA molecules in each injection? How about the fact that only a quarter of those mRNA molecules remain in the recipient's arm with the rest being transported to other parts of the body, including vulnerable areas like the brain, heart, and lungs? Neither of these facts have been shared by Big Pharma, though they're well aware of them.

Quote"So it therefore becomes part of the cell wall of your vascular endothelium, which means that these cells, which line your blood vessels, which are supposed to be smooth so that your blood flows smoothly, now have these little spiky bits sticking out.

So it is absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form, because your blood platelets circulate around in your vessels and the purpose of blood platelets is to detect a damaged vessel and block that damage when it starts bleeding. So when a platelet comes through a capillary and suddenly hits all these covid spikes that are jutting into the inside vessel ... blood clots will form to block that vessel. That's how platelets work."

QuoteThe vaccine agenda is so widespread and universal amongst our leaders, even the least conspiratorially minded Americans have started questioning the tenacious push we're seeing today.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 20, 2021, 06:53:35 AM
Quote from: Possum on August 19, 2021, 03:42:20 PMOnce you get the masses scared, you can convince them of almost anything. IMHO that is why the masks were so important, they did not protect anyone from anything but everywhere the sheeple went, they SAW the pandemic. It was everywhere! They had to get protected. In comes the jab. Without the masks, far fewer people probably would have "needed" the vaccine. It became evident from the get go that there was going to be 50% who saw through the bull sh-t, so the liberals had to turn it into a "us against the bad guys" type of hoax. When that did not work, here comes another strain and we need to mask up again. People need that visual to realize how much we need to government to tell us what to do, and the government tells us to get the jab. Once the masses get the jab, they will not admit they were wrong.
Now add the need for the masks to get attention away from the economy, Afghanistan, etc, and we may never see the need for them to go away.



Just a rant, don't take it too seriously, I worked with a jackhammer all day and a lot, or a good % of whats left in the brain department got rattled.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Even though we all know this is a hoax and people still fall for the bull shit, it's still funny when I read it.
It's crazy, it's just the damn flu, it didn't replace the flu, it's the remedies used to cure people that exacerbate the damages of the common flu.

But like you said, the govt rings Pavlov's Bell, and the dogs drool and they don't even know why, they just react as programmed.

I don't think people will ever understand the truth, simply because they've been so brainwashed by the images of our elderly being sent to the slaughter all to make the hoax appear far more deadlier than it is.

Point is, no one has seen this virus because there's a convenient patent label on it, and it was only just released from a lab in Wuhan, so goes the claim, yet miraculously enough, they just happened to have a "Vaccine" developed years earlier for this very bug?

The real bioweapon is the JBA.

Here's how I see it. There never was a Covid-19, there was only the regular flu cycle, they created this great production of people dying in the streets, hospitals being overrun with the sick and dying, all played by communist govt actors. (we never saw that here did we?)

The world believed the hoax because of actors in our very own country, people destined to become wealthy beyond their wildest dreams packed with prestige and power under the new Communist Regime.
They directed people to move the sick in with the elderly, people living out their final days already, and literally murdered them with the common Flu.
After all, the elderly are expendable where taking over the country is concerned.

Like the Marxists say, "Never Let A Crisis Go To Waste". Oddly enough, this lie topped AGW.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Cross Peen on August 20, 2021, 10:23:13 AM
The Deep state has been prepping the sheep for many years through the MSM, Hollywood, the educational system, etc.  They've also bought off, bribed or compromised thousands of people in key positions throughout society. They would never have been able to pull this off without doing so.
The brainwashing runs deep, which concerns me. I've been telling my family, repeatedly, since this whole charade started that it was a psy-op, and not to buy into it. Three of my four kids still got vaccinated, which is heartbreaking.
My primary duty as a father and husband is to protect my family. I tried to teach my kids to be independent thinkers, not to believe the MSM, do their own research, etc. What I failed to anticipate is the effect that sending them all to college had. College not only added another layer of brainwashing, but it compelled them to associate with other college grads who were even more brain dead. My father used to say that the company you keep is stronger than your willpower.
College strongly discourages independent thinking in favor of letting the "experts" do your thinking for you. The consensus among the highly "educated" is based on "trusted sources" like the government and the nightly news. Everyone in their professional and social circles reinforce this misconception, which then leads to terminal sheepism.
Consequently, (as we all know) a great shock is needed to wake them from their slumber. As much as the audits are important, I think when the normies are finally faced with the fact that their trusted and beloved government, in collusion with big pharma, are actually trying to kill them, some epiphanies will be forthcoming.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on August 20, 2021, 10:44:01 AM
Quote from: Cross Peen on August 20, 2021, 10:23:13 AMThe Deep state has been prepping the sheep for many years through the MSM, Hollywood, the educational system, etc.  They've also bought off, bribed or compromised thousands of people in key positions throughout society. They would never have been able to pull this off without doing so.
The brainwashing runs deep, which concerns me. I've been telling my family, repeatedly, since this whole charade started that it was a psy-op, and not to buy into it. Three of my four kids still got vaccinated, which is heartbreaking.
My primary duty as a father and husband is to protect my family. I tried to teach my kids to be independent thinkers, not to believe the MSM, do their own research, etc. What I failed to anticipate is the effect that sending them all to college had. College not only added another layer of brainwashing, but it compelled them to associate with other college grads who were even more brain dead. My father used to say that the company you keep is stronger than your willpower.
College strongly discourages independent thinking in favor of letting the "experts" do your thinking for you. The consensus among the highly "educated" is based on "trusted sources" like the government and the nightly news. Everyone in their professional and social circles reinforce this misconception, which then leads to terminal sheepism.
Consequently, (as we all know) a great shock is needed to wake them from their slumber. As much as the audits are important, I think when the normies are finally faced with the fact that their trusted and beloved government, in collusion with big pharma, are actually trying to kill them, some epiphanies will be forthcoming.

This right here! Excellent point.
I was lucky to go to a christian college for pastors and teachers and even there they had Sociology which tried to use false statistics to prove all the victimhood the left pushes, that women and minorities are the victims of whites. Even economics tried to paint communism and capitalism as 2 extremes with socialism the acceptable moderate position in between. And they banned smoking while I was there too.

Luckily I had also been in the army before college, so I wasnt a fresh faced little shit who believed everything he was told. But two of my 4 brothers have become atheists after going to college, tho that may have something to do with the radical leftists they are sleeping with.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 20, 2021, 10:45:44 AM
Quote from: Cross Peen on August 20, 2021, 10:23:13 AMThe Deep state has been prepping the sheep for many years through the MSM, Hollywood, the educational system, etc.  They've also bought off, bribed or compromised thousands of people in key positions throughout society. They would never have been able to pull this off without doing so.
The brainwashing runs deep, which concerns me. I've been telling my family, repeatedly, since this whole charade started that it was a psy-op, and not to buy into it. Three of my four kids still got vaccinated, which is heartbreaking.
My primary duty as a father and husband is to protect my family. I tried to teach my kids to be independent thinkers, not to believe the MSM, do their own research, etc. What I failed to anticipate is the effect that sending them all to college had. College not only added another layer of brainwashing, but it compelled them to associate with other college grads who were even more brain dead. My father used to say that the company you keep is stronger than your willpower.
College strongly discourages independent thinking in favor of letting the "experts" do your thinking for you. The consensus among the highly "educated" is based on "trusted sources" like the government and the nightly news. Everyone in their professional and social circles reinforce this misconception, which then leads to terminal sheepism.
Consequently, (as we all know) a great shock is needed to wake them from their slumber. As much as the audits are important, I think when the normies are finally faced with the fact that their trusted and beloved government, in collusion with big pharma, are actually trying to kill them, some epiphanies will be forthcoming.

VERY insightful. As the Father of two and Grand-Father of two, I can tell you that you have nailed the heartbreak, the brainwashing and the coming epiphany that SOME will have. Will that epiphany come quick enough and whether there will be enough who have it, is anyone's guess.

My personal feelings are that we have gone too far and too much corruption, bribes, collusion and blatant sell outs have happened for it to be fixed in my lifetime. Maybe it won't be fixed by man at all.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Cross Peen on August 20, 2021, 02:05:11 PM
Quote from: RV on August 20, 2021, 10:45:44 AMVERY insightful. As the Father of two and Grand-Father of two, I can tell you that you have nailed the heartbreak, the brainwashing and the coming epiphany that SOME will have. Will that epiphany come quick enough and whether there will be enough who have it, is anyone's guess.

My personal feelings are that we have gone too far and too much corruption, bribes, collusion and blatant sell outs have happened for it to be fixed in my lifetime. Maybe it won't be fixed by man at all.
Atheism is a (the?) major problem for humanity. Without the recognition of a Creator, the nature of that Creator, and the simple fact that we all live in a creation, consciousness devolves into a purely materialistic world view. Pure materialism breeds fear, which is a natural byproduct of ignorance in a greater purpose. Marxists figured this out a long time ago and use it as a weapon.
Virtue, grace, strength, and conviction all flow from love, which is the essence of our Creator. This is what the Marxists fear most.
I've found that trying to convince the ignorant of an impending vaccine disaster is almost impossible. I know how George Bailey felt when he was trying to tell Mr Gower he had mistakenly put poison in the pill bottle, and then got cuffed in the ear for his trouble. Normies won't believe anything which is not on the TV or in the newspapers.
These are difficult times. It's hard to have faith when all we see is the aggressive destruction of our country and society. Nevertheless, the tide is turning and things are going to come to a head. We already have a majority of people in this country who are awake (Trump voters), but generally silent. Plus, a lot is going on behind the scenes that we are unaware of.
There is an undercurrent of panic and defeat coming from the DS players. Their support has been badly eroded. Biden is all but done, and Harris will prove to be an even bigger disaster. The snowball of the left's demise has already started down the hill.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 23, 2021, 08:06:58 AM
As someone commented out there - for some it is all about the feeling/emotion. Toy

Your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. This is not anti-vax, because this is not a vaccine. If you wish to be fearful, get the jab if it makes you "feel" better.

As for those of us who love God and his son, Jesus, whom turn from fear...that's just not going to happen.


Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 23, 2021, 08:20:31 AM
Fuck! I feel sorry for those who didn't vote the Marxists into office. Oh wait, the stole their election as well.




https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/082/865/989/original/4ff9c95d6c922c36.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on August 26, 2021, 12:21:07 AM
Just wanna put this here to show the MSM is still trying to claim this drug doesnt work.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/alaska-mayor-promotes-debunked-treatment-covid-19-79647387 (https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/alaska-mayor-promotes-debunked-treatment-covid-19-79647387)


QuoteAn Alaska borough mayor, who says he is not a medical professional, has promoted a debunked treatment for COVID-19 that is intended more for farm animals.

Kenai Peninsula Borough Mayor Charlie Pierce has publicly backed the use of ivermectin, an anti-parasitic deworming drug, the Peninsula Clarion reported Wednesday.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on August 26, 2021, 02:15:30 AM
https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-suspicious-fda-approval-of-the (https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-suspicious-fda-approval-of-the)

QuoteOn Monday, the FDA "approved" the Pfizer COVID-19 (which will be marketed as COMIRNATY) "for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older."

If you want an "approved" dose of COMIRNATY – too bad. It's not yet available. You can still get the Pfizer Vaccine authorized under the Emergency Use Authorization, however. Much has been discussed about whether this is a real "approval" – and I won't repeat that. I'll walk through the source documents and data, showing just how weak this purported approval really is.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 26, 2021, 12:56:30 PM
This was interesting.... Toy
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mTVLXp20O8rr/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: tac on August 26, 2021, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 26, 2021, 12:56:30 PMThis was interesting.... Toy
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mTVLXp20O8rr/

Thank you for posting this video, it was very interesting and informative.

I just hope I live long enough to see a lot of politicians, Fauci et al, executed for crimes against humanity. I also want to see big pharma destroyed for their part in this massive hoax.

I can't wait for our resident troll to weigh in on this.  :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 26, 2021, 03:35:09 PM
The evidence is stacking up! I would love to know if doctors nationwide (worldwide?), are seeing the same issues yet, are saying nothing...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 26, 2021, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: RV on August 26, 2021, 03:35:09 PMThe evidence is stacking up! I would love to know if doctors nationwide (worldwide?), are seeing the same issues yet, are saying nothing...
[/b]IMHO, they're seeing it, have seen it, and know better. It is not the doctors pushing this crap, it's the politicians.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 26, 2021, 05:07:50 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 28, 2021, 08:31:48 AM
Saw this - how true.   Toy

My friend's husband won't let her visit any friends or family. He has made her stop all contact with them unless it's on the phone or computer. He reads and censors her comments on social media. He makes her feel like she's going crazy for thinking he's controlling, and that she is being ungrateful. (After all, he's only doing this because of how much he cares about her.)

He doesn't want her going to the gym anymore, so she doesn't go. He also doesn't let her go to work anymore (he told her to only rely on him for income and that he will take care of her).

She's not really allowed to go out anymore, unless it's for necessities, and when she does, he makes sure to have people guilt trip her about it and shame her for it.

He wants her to have this medical procedure done and tells her that if she does it, he will allow her more freedoms.
He constantly says he's only doing all of this because he cares... he is just doing it for her own good.

Oh wait....did I say husband? I meant the government.

My bad.

Y'all are outraged if a person does this to their spouse, but are passive and compliant when it comes to our government.

Listen and start asking questions.

Turn off your TV and use your brain🧠

~ Author unknown
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 28, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 28, 2021, 08:31:48 AMSaw this - how true.  Toy

My friend's husband won't let her visit any friends or family. He has made her stop all contact with them unless it's on the phone or computer. He reads and censors her comments on social media. He makes her feel like she's going crazy for thinking he's controlling, and that she is being ungrateful. (After all, he's only doing this because of how much he cares about her.)

He doesn't want her going to the gym anymore, so she doesn't go. He also doesn't let her go to work anymore (he told her to only rely on him for income and that he will take care of her).

She's not really allowed to go out anymore, unless it's for necessities, and when she does, he makes sure to have people guilt trip her about it and shame her for it.

He wants her to have this medical procedure done and tells her that if she does it, he will allow her more freedoms.
He constantly says he's only doing all of this because he cares... he is just doing it for her own good.

Oh wait....did I say husband? I meant the government.

My bad.

Y'all are outraged if a person does this to their spouse, but are passive and compliant when it comes to our government.

Listen and start asking questions.

Turn off your TV and use your brain🧠

~ Author unknown

It is absolutely true!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on August 29, 2021, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on August 26, 2021, 12:56:30 PMThis was interesting.... Toy
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mTVLXp20O8rr/

Here is the explanation from I believe the French Doctor....

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/083/142/416/original/29293d11fc529baa.mp4
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on August 30, 2021, 06:16:32 AM
Anyone else find it a little odd that the U.S. government supposedly has no idea how many Americans are in Afghanistan but, claims to know the exact number of Wuhan virus infections and deaths?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on September 03, 2021, 04:05:08 PM
What, No Jab? But they do get Ivermectin... :rolleyes:






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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on September 10, 2021, 06:37:09 AM
I had read somewhere that budesonide is recommended for use....  I have been using Rhinocort for decades... Toy

How can nasal sprays help combat COVID 19? The virus and its variants infect patients primarily by adhering to the nasal membrane as the original source of infection, explains Nathan Jones, Chief Executive Officer of Xlear, the American Fork, Utah-based maker of nasal sprays as well as an array of dental care products.

The company submitted multiple studies that it says demonstrate that its spray does help "destroy the virus," as Jones puts it. Other researchers point to a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine which shows that the viral load is concentrated in the nose and upper airways, something, Jones says, ''we have known since February of 2020, and we still are not talking about it."

Despite the brush off from the CDC, XLear's dialogue with the FDA continued throughout the summer, leading to some optimism that an EUA might come at some point. A recent letter laid out some steps the company needed to take in order to move toward an EUA, and stressed that it was always open to dialogue. "So that at least was a positive," says an attorney for Xlear working on the matter.

But that's about all that was positive. The FDA made requests that seemed outlandish to some people associated with Xlear. For example, the spray Xlear produces is made from grapefruit seed extract. The FDA wanted to know the origin of the grapefruits the company uses, the sources said—down to the fields they were grown in and the day they were harvested. But the company buys from a supplier, who in turn buys the grapefruits from another company. Establishing where and when specific grapefruits were harvested is going to be a nightmare.

Andy yet they have "approved" a vaccine :blink:  :confused: that is proven ineffective and dangerous.  Toy

https://www.newsweek.com/nasal-spray-company-pushes-cdc-fda-accept-its-claims-help-treat-covid-1627712
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on September 11, 2021, 06:22:10 AM
More interesting information.  Toy

Experts recommend that coronavirus be allowed to circulate throughout population.
Some experts are now recommending that the virus be allowed to circulate throughout the population, with precautions taken for vulnerable individuals.

"We don't have anything that will stop transmission, so I think we are in a situation where herd immunity is not a possibility and I suspect the virus will throw up a new variant that is even better at infecting vaccinated individuals," Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, told a parliamentary panel last month.

Pollard argued that if mass testing was not stopped, "the UK could be in a situation of continually vaccinating the population." He said that only those with symptoms should be tested while others should go about their daily lives.


Governments need to stop mass vaccination drives to get a shot at herd immunity.

In March, vaccine expert Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche said in an open letter that ongoing mass vaccination drives are "likely to further enhance adaptive immune escape as none of the current vaccines will prevent replication or transmission of viral variants."

Immune escape is a term used to describe when the host is no longer able to recognize and counter a pathogen such as a relevant variant or mutant of SARS-CoV-2.

"The more we use these vaccines for immunizing people in the midst of a pandemic, the more infectious the virus will become," Vanden Bossche wrote. "With increasing infectiousness comes an increased likelihood of viral resistance to the vaccines."

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-10-neurologist-explains-why-vaccinated-people-spread-covid.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on September 11, 2021, 12:51:01 PM
Police unions across the country look to stop mandatory vaccination among officers.

snip~
Last month, when Mayor Lori Lightfoot of Chicago said there would "absolutely" be a vaccine mandate for city employees, the local police union promised legal action.

"It cannot be mandated. It's that simple. Our members don't want to be mandated to do anything like that," said the union president, John Catanzara. "This vaccine has no studies for long-term side effects or consequences. None. To mandate anybody to get that vaccine, without that data as a baseline, amongst other issues, is a 'Hell, no' for us."

more @
https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-unions-across-the-country-look-to-stop-mandatory-vaccination-among-officers-193226596.html
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: walkstall on September 11, 2021, 01:19:25 PM
subject to Biden vaccine mandate, contrary to initial confused reports.

Snip~
Employees of the United States Postal Service will be required to get a COVID-19 vaccine or be tested under President Joe Biden's new vaccine initiative, contrary to confused early reporting after the administration rolled out the mandate Thursday evening.

The Washington Post initially reported that the Postal Service would not be covered by Biden's vaccine mandate, quoting an administration official who said employees would still be strongly encouraged to comply.

more @
https://news.yahoo.com/postal-workers-subject-biden-vaccine-142500746.html

Hmmm... Will the Postal Service unions follow police-unions-across-the-country?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2021, 01:48:43 PM
Quote from: walkstall on September 11, 2021, 01:19:25 PMsubject to Biden vaccine mandate, contrary to initial confused reports.

Snip~
Employees of the United States Postal Service will be required to get a COVID-19 vaccine or be tested under President Joe Biden's new vaccine initiative, contrary to confused early reporting after the administration rolled out the mandate Thursday evening.

The Washington Post initially reported that the Postal Service would not be covered by Biden's vaccine mandate, quoting an administration official who said employees would still be strongly encouraged to comply.

more @
https://news.yahoo.com/postal-workers-subject-biden-vaccine-142500746.html

Hmmm... Will the Postal Service unions follow police-unions-across-the-country?

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Biden's vaccine mandate, quoting an administration official who said employees would still be strongly encouraged to comply.
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on September 19, 2021, 07:54:05 AM
Oops....says the nurse who just "accidently" gave me the wrong drug.  Sure.....  Toy

A few days ago I went to Walgreens for a flu shot. I arrived a bit early and filled out the necessary paperwork, signing for the flu shot. As I was being given the shot the nurse said nothing to me other than asking me which arm I would like it in. She gave me the shot and as I was leaving told me to come back for my 2nd dose in 21 days. I stopped in my tracks and asked, "I'm going to need a second dose?" She ensured me that I would. Confused, I continued to walk out and that's when I looked down at the card she gave me. It said COVID-19 vaccine. I quickly rushed to the counter (my boyfriend and his mom came with me).

(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/4E281124-057B-4240-841A-102F8E9A2C21.jpeg)

Kari spoke to an Arizona woman who went to get a flu shot at a large pharmacy chain. They gave her the Covid jab instead. They apologized for the "mix-up." She's devastated. She didn't want the Covid shot. If you are getting a flu shot double-check the vial BEFORE you get jabbed.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/huge-mistake-teen-gets-flu-shot-told-come-back-second-dose-never-gave-consent-covid-19-vaccine-injected-body/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on September 19, 2021, 09:13:27 AM
Great video...  If you took the shot....why?  Toy

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/085/421/357/original/bcffea5e943b39ab.mp4 (https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/085/421/357/original/bcffea5e943b39ab.mp4)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on September 19, 2021, 10:35:59 AM
For all you libs who despise Capitalism, yet willingly take the Jab produced by Big pharma, an industry with the single goal of profit.

Understand Critical Thought...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on September 19, 2021, 02:59:56 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on September 19, 2021, 07:54:05 AMOops....says the nurse who just "accidently" gave me the wrong drug.  Sure.....  Toy

A few days ago I went to Walgreens for a flu shot. I arrived a bit early and filled out the necessary paperwork, signing for the flu shot. As I was being given the shot the nurse said nothing to me other than asking me which arm I would like it in. She gave me the shot and as I was leaving told me to come back for my 2nd dose in 21 days. I stopped in my tracks and asked, "I'm going to need a second dose?" She ensured me that I would. Confused, I continued to walk out and that's when I looked down at the card she gave me. It said COVID-19 vaccine. I quickly rushed to the counter (my boyfriend and his mom came with me).

(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/4E281124-057B-4240-841A-102F8E9A2C21.jpeg)

Kari spoke to an Arizona woman who went to get a flu shot at a large pharmacy chain. They gave her the Covid jab instead. They apologized for the "mix-up." She's devastated. She didn't want the Covid shot. If you are getting a flu shot double-check the vial BEFORE you get jabbed.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/huge-mistake-teen-gets-flu-shot-told-come-back-second-dose-never-gave-consent-covid-19-vaccine-injected-body/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

If I had to bet, I'd bet that was no "accident"...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on September 20, 2021, 01:45:58 PM
It's a silent weapon for a quiet war....

Interesting..  Toy

https://odysee.com/@stpierrs:f/The-Truth-about-Why-Are-They-in-Such-a-Hurry-to-JAB-EVERYONE2:a (https://odysee.com/@stpierrs:f/The-Truth-about-Why-Are-They-in-Such-a-Hurry-to-JAB-EVERYONE2:a)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on September 28, 2021, 07:09:53 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on September 20, 2021, 01:45:58 PMIt's a silent weapon for a quiet war....

Interesting..  Toy

https://odysee.com/@stpierrs:f/The-Truth-about-Why-Are-They-in-Such-a-Hurry-to-JAB-EVERYONE2:a (https://odysee.com/@stpierrs:f/The-Truth-about-Why-Are-They-in-Such-a-Hurry-to-JAB-EVERYONE2:a)

I feel sorry for the children, they cannot win. If they do what they are told and get the "vaccine", they will surely have health problems later or even die. If they don't do what they are told then, they are considered "problem children".

It amazes me that parents would subject their children to a "vaccine" where they have no idea what is in it for a supposed "virus" that they have also not seen. I guess these folks must also believe in the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny, fairy dust, magic, Santa Clause and Unicorns...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on September 28, 2021, 07:58:09 AM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


https://gab.com/TheRISEofROD/posts/106270573410823147
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on October 03, 2021, 10:39:48 AM
I like what this guy is calmly explaining to these 2 young women who really have no response.. Toy

https://www.bitchute.com/video/U0Hmk5EGhHif/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on October 03, 2021, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 03, 2021, 10:39:48 AMI like what this guy is calmly explaining to these 2 young women who really have no response.. Toy


I like it too! It's interesting that these two young women are "woke" to the point that they are unable (or unwilling), to think for themselves. There are many who are swallowing the nonsense that the government is feeding them simply because they are unable or unwilling to think for themselves.

As I have said many times, the anti-christ will not have to force people, they will comply willingly.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: taxed on October 03, 2021, 02:20:23 PM
https://twitter.com/jackmurphylive/status/1444736728753913856
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on October 05, 2021, 02:34:58 PM
https://rumble.com/vncppb-ted-nugents-comical-plea-to-the-vaccinated-will-make-you-fall-out-of-your-c.html?mref=4kf0v&mc=c6cgi

OMG!   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Toy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 09, 2021, 09:18:47 AM
The sound is fucked up, but what she said is she just won the court case, he no longer has to wear a mask at school.


Mother tells her son that she beat the mask mandate in court.


https://t.me/realKarliBonne/44458
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on October 09, 2021, 09:23:37 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 09, 2021, 09:18:47 AMThe sound is fucked up, but what she said is she just won the court case, he no longer has to wear a mask at school.

Mother tells her son that she beat the mask mandate in court.


That is awesome however, how much damage has already been done to school age children around the world?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 09, 2021, 10:04:24 AM
Quote from: RV on October 09, 2021, 09:23:37 AMThat is awesome however, how much damage has already been done to school age children around the world?
Yep, and this was just a peek into the damage being inflicted on all the children.
I can't even begin to imagine, having been raised to be independent since birth. Feed myself, Walk to and from school, stay out till dark, never once being told to check in during the day.

You know what I mean, a normal childhood, all my friends were raised the same.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 11, 2021, 09:35:54 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on October 11, 2021, 12:23:45 PM
The Marxists are "banning" treatments to try to force people to get the "Vaccine". Now why would the Marxists try to FORCE people to get the "Vaccine"?

My guess is that there is MUCH more to the story than they are telling us. I go back to the tenet of "follow the money". It seems clear to me that it is all about money and power. The more the Marxist try to FORCE the "Vaccine", the more I will resist it. At this point, there is ZERO chance that I will EVER get the "Vaccine".

If I die, I die. I know where I'm going and I know who I belong to!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 12, 2021, 06:36:25 AM
Quote from: RV on October 11, 2021, 12:23:45 PMThe Marxists are "banning" treatments to try to force people to get the "Vaccine". Now why would the Marxists try to FORCE people to get the "Vaccine"?

My guess is that there is MUCH more to the story than they are telling us. I go back to the tenet of "follow the money". It seems clear to me that it is all about money and power. The more the Marxist try to FORCE the "Vaccine", the more I will resist it. At this point, there is ZERO chance that I will EVER get the "Vaccine".

If I die, I die. I know where I'm going and I know who I belong to!
Agree, but I think this is one of those times where ideology of leftism is about spending money too achieve their goal.
A goal of murdering millions. They actually think they are saving the planet by culling the weak, old, infirmed and the ignorant from the planet.

These people aren't very smart, when all is said and done, they will be hunted down and and murdered, and not quickly executed, people will want revenge first.
People laugh when I say that, but I know just how much I despise these communists, and when all is said and done, there will be millions just like me who've lost people to this evil.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 14, 2021, 05:59:35 AM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


https://twitter.com/i/status/1448331047553359875
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 14, 2021, 06:07:38 PM
Nun Gets it! :thumbup:


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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on October 15, 2021, 06:37:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 14, 2021, 06:07:38 PMNun Gets it! :thumbup:


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The page was "removed" and is no longer available.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 15, 2021, 06:52:00 AM
Quote from: RV on October 15, 2021, 06:37:50 AMThe page was "removed" and is no longer available.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Soooo, Getter isn't as free as they want us to believe. They pulled a Nuns post, for the sake of Christ?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on October 15, 2021, 08:47:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2021, 06:52:00 AM:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Soooo, Getter isn't as free as they want us to believe. They pulled a Nuns post, for the sake of Christ?

I am very doubtful that it had anything to do with truth, fact or Jesus Christ...
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 15, 2021, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: RV on October 15, 2021, 08:47:51 AMI am very doubtful that it had anything to do with truth, fact or Jesus Christ...
That leaves little option. What are you saying?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on October 15, 2021, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 15, 2021, 09:07:38 AMThat leaves little option. What are you saying?

I am saying that the truth is deliberately labeled as "misinformation" to censor, scuttle and classify ANYTHING that smacks of truth, fact or goes against the narrative!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 15, 2021, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: RV on October 15, 2021, 09:11:27 AMI am saying that the truth is deliberately labeled as "misinformation" to censor, scuttle and classify ANYTHING that smacks of truth, fact or goes against the narrative!
Well, if was Getter that did it, they just exposed themselves as leftists.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on October 16, 2021, 06:58:54 AM
I am seeing more and more stories about "sports" people being infected or standing up against the jab (which gets them suspended). 

All players and coaches on the team are "fully vaccinated," which brings into question (as it seems to do every week) what the point of total vaccination is if it doesn't protect them from infections? They like to say that breakthrough cases are rare, but the head coach, general manager Steve Keim, quarterbacks coach Cam Turner, another unnamed assistant, outside linebacker Chandler Jones, and defensive tackle Zach Allen will all miss the game this weekend against the Cleveland Browns because they tested positive.
https://noqreport.com/2021/10/16/100-vaccinated-nfl-team-loses-their-head-coach-two-assistants-the-gm-and-two-players-due-to-covid/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on October 16, 2021, 09:41:48 AM
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 16, 2021, 06:58:54 AMI am seeing more and more stories about "sports" people being infected or standing up against the jab (which gets them suspended). 

All players and coaches on the team are "fully vaccinated," which brings into question (as it seems to do every week) what the point of total vaccination is if it doesn't protect them from infections? They like to say that breakthrough cases are rare, but the head coach, general manager Steve Keim, quarterbacks coach Cam Turner, another unnamed assistant, outside linebacker Chandler Jones, and defensive tackle Zach Allen will all miss the game this weekend against the Cleveland Browns because they tested positive.
https://noqreport.com/2021/10/16/100-vaccinated-nfl-team-loses-their-head-coach-two-assistants-the-gm-and-two-players-due-to-covid/

Let's face it, this "vaccine" is vastly different from ANY other so-called "vaccine". It is untested, untried and lacks data regarding long term affects. The fact that it's supposed to protect one from getting the virus and then the narrative changed, that it protects one from getting as sick smacks of subterfuge, misinformation and a complete lack of testing.

I still believe that when all is said and done, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the Wuhan virus, immunity to it nor making anyone "healthier". I believe there is a more clandestine reason for the push, the censorship, the misinformation and the coverups. The plan won't totally work until/unless EVERYONE complies which, I for one will NEVER do!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 05, 2021, 08:39:14 AM
Their end is near!!! :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:


https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1456627114808074241
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on November 06, 2021, 03:29:42 PM
Marxists are aware that disease is the greatest human fear, so they have chosen a "pandemic" to control the people by their greatest fear.

https://tv.gab.com/channel/goodpatriot/view/has-society-literally-been-brainwashed-yes-6186fa178fa113bf00ca4fc6
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on November 09, 2021, 05:52:30 AM
I will agree with you that the Dems are playing off of fear but, I don't believe it's the fear of illness that the Dems are using. It is the fear of dying that the Dems are playing off of.

This would also explain their push for abortion, CRT and the brainwashing of our young. It has often been said that if you can use fear and intimidation to push your agenda, that is a recipe for success. Socialized medicine plays off that fear, puts government over God and superimposes the "safety" aspect of ANY decision the Marxists make regarding "public safety". This would include withdrawing rights and privileges under the guise of "safety".
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 20, 2021, 11:25:10 AM
Nothing to see here. :sneaky:


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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: RV on November 25, 2021, 05:37:37 AM
It will never be released but, it would be quite telling if their party affiliations were released... I would bet my lunch money that they are all Democrats and never Trumpers!
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2021, 06:07:25 AM
Quote from: RV on November 25, 2021, 05:37:37 AMIt will never be released but, it would be quite telling if their party affiliations were released... I would bet my lunch money that they are all Democrats and never Trumpers!
Maybe when we hold a Nuremberg style trial. One can dream, can't they?
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: RV on November 25, 2021, 08:17:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 22, 2020, 03:30:50 PMYep, China fired a bullet and now they're racing to get ahead of it.
Too late...
Also there's evidence that his virus is already mutating, but they claim there isn't enough evidence. So why did they broach the subject in the first place?

Why did they broach the subject in the first place? To keep the terror going. To make the hidin' Biden administration the "heros" of "safe and effective vaccines" for the Wuhan virus. To keep the sheeple off guard. To justify the skewed statistics, lockdowns, business closures, widespread unemployment. As a distraction from the high gas prices, crumbling economy, etc. To keep the propaganda arm of the DNC fed with misinformation to feed to the public. To prevent society from going back to "normal" before Democrats can finish the "great reset".

There are lots of reasons why the subject was broached. Not to mention the fact that not everyone has gotten "vaccinated" yet...
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2021, 10:48:50 AM
Quote from: RV on November 25, 2021, 08:17:38 AMWhy did they broach the subject in the first place? To keep the terror going. To make the hidin' Biden administration the "heros" of "safe and effective vaccines" for the Wuhan virus. To keep the sheeple off guard. To justify the skewed statistics, lockdowns, business closures, widespread unemployment. As a distraction from the high gas prices, crumbling economy, etc. To keep the propaganda arm of the DNC fed with misinformation to feed to the public. To prevent society from going back to "normal" before Democrats can finish the "great reset".

There are lots of reasons why the subject was broached. Not to mention the fact that not everyone has gotten "vaccinated" yet...
Yep, and next will be Monkey Pox. Gotta keep the people scared...
Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: Possum on November 26, 2021, 06:21:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 25, 2021, 10:48:50 AMYep, and next will be Monkey Pox. Gotta keep the people scared...
Well, it looks like the monkey pox or whatever they are calling the newest and latest off shoot, is turning up in South Africa. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/black-friday-turns-red-terrible-news-global-markets-crater-nu-variant-panic. Now why would the newest offshoot turn up where there were few versions of the original and even fewer vaccinated? Almost makes me think someone is trying to scare the population into taking the jab.

Title: Re: WUFLU
Post by: RV on November 26, 2021, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: Possum on November 26, 2021, 06:21:38 AMWell, it looks like the monkey pox or whatever they are calling the newest and latest off shoot, is turning up in South Africa. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/black-friday-turns-red-terrible-news-global-markets-crater-nu-variant-panic. Now why would the newest offshoot turn up where there were few versions of the original and even fewer vaccinated? Almost makes me think someone is trying to scare the population into taking the jab.

There is no question in my mind that fear, intimidation and outright force is being used to coerce people into rolling up their sleeve and taking whatever concoction they wish to inject. What's more they make people sign a waver before hand to ensure that no legal remedy is possible afterwards. Even minor children are being exposed to this devilish mark.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 30, 2021, 05:50:11 PM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Fully Vaccinated Patients Show Mild Symptoms after Omicron Infection in Botswana — Non-Vaccinated Show No Symptoms at All

Mr Speaker, following this development, contact tracing was immediately conducted and all contacts tested negative for the COVID-19. Further assessments and analysis of other positive COVID-19 samples have up to now produced 15 more cases of the new Omicron variant. This means that to date Botswana has recorded a total of 19 cases of the new variant. We continue to expand contact tracing to ensure that we do not leave any potential case undetected.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/revealed-fully-vaccinated-patients-show-mild-symptoms-omicron-infection-botswana-non-vaccinated-show-no-symptoms/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solars Toy on December 01, 2021, 09:35:57 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/091/993/870/original/dd86b38114489b8e.png)

Second column... After Britain heard about it, the global picture started to change....
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on December 01, 2021, 08:06:18 PM
Fauci can't let this happen. :rolleyes:


Breaking: Two Years and 5.2 Million Deaths Later Chinese Doctors Admit They Have the Antibody That Can Neutralize All Strains of COVID


Chinese scientists claim to have isolated an antibody which can effectively neutralize all strains of Covid-19, referencing both lab experiments and those performed on a living organism.

In a study published on Tuesday, Chinese scientists from a variety of institutions, including Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou and Zhejiang University in Hangzhou, suggested that they may have the panacea to the Covid-19 pandemic.

The authors claim that monoclonal antibody 35B5 has been shown in both in vitro (laboratory or test-tube experiment) and in vivo (performed on living organism) studies to neutralize wild-type Covid-19 (without mutations) as well as variants of concern (VOCs). The in vivo tests were carried out on humanized mice.

The scientists noted that the antibody also works on the highly mutated Delta variant, which has been responsible for deadly waves of infection around the world since it first emerged in India earlier this year.

"35B5 neutralizes SARS-CoV-2 [Covid-19] by targeting a unique epitope [part of the antigen molecule which the antibody attaches itself to] that avoids the prevailing mutation sites," the study explains. In other words, 35B5 targets a unique part of the virus that does not change during the mutation process.

By targeting part of the virus which is not impacted by the mutations identified in circulating VOCs, antibody 35B5 demonstrated capacity for "pan-neutralizing efficacy" across multiple strains. These findings, the scientists argue, could be "exploited for the rational design of a universal SARS-CoV-2 [Covid-19] vaccine."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/breaking-two-years-5-2-million-deaths-later-chinese-doctors-admit-antibody-can-neutralize-strains-covid/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on December 03, 2021, 11:48:30 AM
OMICRON - MORONIC - ONCOMIR

https://www.bing.com/search?q=oncomir&form=ANNTH1&refig=13b3fb317f474bdb952e2af372693828 (https://www.bing.com/search?q=oncomir&form=ANNTH1&refig=13b3fb317f474bdb952e2af372693828)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on December 03, 2021, 03:49:53 PM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on December 03, 2021, 04:19:41 PM
Wife and I just got over our little bout with wuflu a couple of weeks ago. Had a little family get together and boom, we all got it. Wife and I had mild case, definitely have had worse cases of the flu, can not believe they shut down the economy over this. We still kept working around the place, cows and chickens still got to eat. One b-i-l had it worse, was in the hospital over two weeks. People the key is to stay as healthy as you can. If you do not care to stay healthy, do not be surprised if this bites you in the butt. Some of the family members who were not there and did not get the virus are now getting the vaccine, what dumb butts, because the jab is easier than staying healthy, exercise, eat healthy, cut out the sugar, walk, work out doors etc. In other words, live your life as if you want to live, show God how much you appreciate his gift of life by working at what is healthy for you. No, this is not a fool proof plan, but I do believe the vaccine is the devils work. I have to ask, why are those pushing the vaccine not pushing getting healthy, losing weight, eating right, .........
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on December 04, 2021, 05:54:59 AM
You read it here first. Back in August, September when the FDA gave it's approval on the vaccine, this forum warned liberals, who would not stop arguing, that the drug approved was not the drug given as the vaccine. Can not find the threads but judges are agreeing with this forum.  https://basedunderground.com/2021/12/04/huge-federal-judge-strikes-down-dod-claim-that-pfizers-eua-vaccine-and-comirnaty-are-interchangeable/

QuoteU.S. Federal District Judge Allen Winsor of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida has ruled that Pfizer-BioNTech's Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) "vaccine" bearing emergency use authorization (EUA) is not interchangeable with the company's new Comirnaty injection, which was fully licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) back in August.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on December 04, 2021, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: Possum on December 03, 2021, 04:19:41 PMWife and I just got over our little bout with wuflu a couple of weeks ago. Had a little family get together and boom, we all got it. Wife and I had mild case, definitely have had worse cases of the flu, can not believe they shut down the economy over this. We still kept working around the place, cows and chickens still got to eat. One b-i-l had it worse, was in the hospital over two weeks. People the key is to stay as healthy as you can. If you do not care to stay healthy, do not be surprised if this bites you in the butt. Some of the family members who were not there and did not get the virus are now getting the vaccine, what dumb butts, because the jab is easier than staying healthy, exercise, eat healthy, cut out the sugar, walk, work out doors etc. In other words, live your life as if you want to live, show God how much you appreciate his gift of life by working at what is healthy for you. No, this is not a fool proof plan, but I do believe the vaccine is the devils work. I have to ask, why are those pushing the vaccine not pushing getting healthy, losing weight, eating right, .........
Toy and I both had it before the left used it as a tool. It was a bug like any other bug, the only difference was the prolonged cough, bugged us both for about 6 weeks.
It was more like a severe cold.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on December 04, 2021, 01:40:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 04, 2021, 01:35:39 PMToy and I both had it before the left used it as a tool. It was a bug like any other bug, the only difference was the prolonged cough, bugged us both for about 6 weeks.
It was more like a severe cold.
:thumbup:  Getting my smell back after a month of not being able to smell. Other than that no lingering effects. This is not anything I would get a vaccine to prevent, the vaccine can kill you.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on December 04, 2021, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: Possum on December 04, 2021, 01:40:47 PM:thumbup:  Getting my smell back after a month of not being able to smell. Other than that no lingering effects. This is not anything I would get a vaccine to prevent, the vaccine can kill you.
Yep, for the same reason I don't get the flu shot. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.
Besides, I no longer trust anything Big Pharma creates.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: TboneAgain on December 15, 2021, 06:50:19 PM
So far, it's looking as if the new Omicron variant is "Covid for the vaxxed." In a report released a few days ago by the CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7050e1.htm?s_cid=mm7050e1_w), the agency cited 43 known cases of the new virus in 22 different states. Of the 43, fully 35 were fully vaccinated, including 14 who had also received at least one booster shot.

Also, it's good to note that only one case required hospital treatment, and there have been no fatalities so far.

The Left hates the very thought, but our friend Herd Immunity has shown up.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on January 07, 2022, 11:30:15 PM
Australian Closed

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on January 08, 2022, 12:55:03 AM
Novax Djokovic

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on January 10, 2022, 12:13:28 AM
Nole for the win!

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on January 10, 2022, 09:43:16 AM
Live stream from today, Free Nole movement in Melbourne. :smile: Let's go tribal together. :lol: Somewhere from around 37 minutes, the crowd surrounded Djokovic's car because of a rumor that he was arrested once again.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on January 11, 2022, 07:21:58 AM
Nigel Farage is in Belgrade, Serbia, interviewing Novak's younger brother Djordje.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on January 14, 2022, 12:02:03 AM
Nazistralia strikes again. Aussie=Pussy. :lol: Hope Novak will win once again in court and on court.

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on January 16, 2022, 02:37:12 PM
Australia is a concentration camp. Why would they fight China when they are China themselves. With 95% of them being vaccinated, how come they are still not "protected" from the "virus", and so one unvaccinated foreigner is making a national threat?

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: milos on January 17, 2022, 01:46:42 PM
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Dirtbomb on January 18, 2022, 03:08:47 AM
Quote from: milos on January 17, 2022, 01:46:42 PM

How serious is the pandemic in the United States? Not at all if you follow the money.....

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/covid-con-part-2-how-billions-pandemic-relief-funds-went-everything
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2022, 04:42:35 AM
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Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: TboneAgain on March 05, 2022, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2022, 04:42:35 AM(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/100/466/050/small/cba14823d870d6b2.png)
I'm hoping this is a 'shoot on sight' notice.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on March 06, 2022, 05:34:36 AM
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 05, 2022, 10:49:59 PMI'm hoping this is a 'shoot on sight' notice.
Well, the left is done with him, and they're really huge on recycling... Soooo,,, I don't see a problem. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on March 14, 2022, 06:57:45 AM
And coming soon to a area near you, just in time for the midterms,
https://www.theepochtimes.com/more-chinese-cities-in-lockdown-as-covid-19-outbreak-spreads_4335117.html/?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily

QuoteChina on March 13 placed two more cities under lockdown, including its southern business center of Shenzhen, amid a fresh spike of COVID-19 cases across the country fueled by the fast-spreading Omicron variant.

So, are they expecting the Ukraine war to be over by then?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on August 15, 2022, 03:36:11 PM
It is finally admitted. https://dossier.substack.com/p/one-year-later-how-the-biden-admin

QuoteIt has been almost one year since the FDA gave full approval to Pfizer's mRNA COVID injection. Yet many will be surprised to find out that this particular vaccine, in FDA approved form, has never actually existed, and will never exist. The Biden Administration's highly touted FDA approval was a mere sleight of hand. It was bureaucratic trickery. There remains no FDA approved COVID vaccine that is actually available in the United States, and there may never be one.

My my my, it was argued here first that there was no FDA approved vaccine that the population could take, I remember we had a couple of liberals argue differently. wonder where they are now??????
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on August 15, 2022, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: Possum on August 15, 2022, 03:36:11 PMIt is finally admitted. https://dossier.substack.com/p/one-year-later-how-the-biden-admin

My my my, it was argued here first that there was no FDA approved vaccine that the population could take, I remember we had a couple of liberals argue differently. wonder where they are now??????
:blush:  :blush:  :blush:  :blush:  :blush:  :blush:  :blush:

GOOD FIND! :cool:

I remember that as well, and they'll never be back. Also, thanks for keeping this in the CCP hoax thread, it literally reads like a history book of exposed Marxist lies. :biggrin:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on September 07, 2022, 05:55:09 AM
Thought I'd share some information on China and their reactions to Covid since they are often named and blamed. They are harder on their people than we are.

'China approves inhaled Covid vaccine'

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-62793078


'Covid in China: Chengdu lockdown after outbreak'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62751295


"In June, passengers on a high-speed train from China's financial hub Shanghai to Beijing failed to reach their destination."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62046521
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on September 07, 2022, 06:22:14 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 07, 2022, 05:55:09 AMThought I'd share some information on China and their reactions to Covid since they are often named and blamed. They are harder on their people than we are.

'China approves inhaled Covid vaccine'

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-62793078


'Covid in China: Chengdu lockdown after outbreak'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62751295


"In June, passengers on a high-speed train from China's financial hub Shanghai to Beijing failed to reach their destination."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62046521


Youre not very good at thinking for yourself, are you?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10003049/Proof-BBC-wont-switch-bias-Broadcaster-demands-pay-denies-Left-wing.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10003049/Proof-BBC-wont-switch-bias-Broadcaster-demands-pay-denies-Left-wing.html)

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/nicholas-booth-bbcs-leftist-bias-endemic-risible-also-counterproductive/ (https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/nicholas-booth-bbcs-leftist-bias-endemic-risible-also-counterproductive/)

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/bbc-increasingly-left-wing-and-politically-correct-and-not-fit-purpose-2876031 (https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/bbc-increasingly-left-wing-and-politically-correct-and-not-fit-purpose-2876031)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1371675/BBC-bias-BBC-news-left-wing-latest-study-comedy (https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1371675/BBC-bias-BBC-news-left-wing-latest-study-comedy)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2022, 07:26:13 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on September 07, 2022, 05:55:09 AMThought I'd share some information on China and their reactions to Covid since they are often named and blamed. They are harder on their people than we are.

'China approves inhaled Covid vaccine'

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-62793078


'Covid in China: Chengdu lockdown after outbreak'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62751295


"In June, passengers on a high-speed train from China's financial hub Shanghai to Beijing failed to reach their destination."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62046521

How is it you are unable to do the math?
This entire thread is a timeline of Marxist lies, from just "Two Weeks to Stop the Spread", to Social Distancing and Wear the Badge of Leftist Obedience, MASK!
All admitted Lies, Including the JABB, a Product Never even Tested on Animals.
Yet here you are trying to keep the lie alive, why is that? The rest of the Nation made the connection between govt mandates and deaths.
It was just another flu season the left used for.... Have you even tried to figure out why they did it yet?
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: midcan5 on October 10, 2022, 08:12:23 AM
While this thread is quite long I thought the piece below worth sharing here. I found it interesting that the source is a literary site. So much misinformation surrounds this particular coronavirus it must amaze us all. How did medicine come to be so complicated and controversial? As I noted before those of us who lived during the time of polio shake our heads in wonder.

'How Virologists in China Worked to Warn the World About COVID-19'

'David Quammen on the Origins of the Coronavirus Pandemic'

https://lithub.com/how-virologists-in-china-worked-to-warn-the-world-about-covid-19/

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on October 10, 2022, 09:33:16 AM
Quote from: midcan5 on October 10, 2022, 08:12:23 AMWhile this thread is quite long I thought the piece below worth sharing here. I found it interesting that the source is a literary site. So much misinformation surrounds this particular coronavirus it must amaze us all. How did medicine come to be so complicated and controversial? As I noted before those of us who lived during the time of polio shake our heads in wonder.

'How Virologists in China Worked to Warn the World About COVID-19'

'David Quammen on the Origins of the Coronavirus Pandemic'

https://lithub.com/how-virologists-in-china-worked-to-warn-the-world-about-covid-19/



The question you need to be asking is 'why did the media and government lie about it so much and push data contrary to the science?'
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: T Hunt on October 10, 2022, 09:34:48 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 07, 2022, 07:26:13 AMHow is it you are unable to do the math?
This entire thread is a timeline of Marxist lies, from just "Two Weeks to Stop the Spread", to Social Distancing and Wear the Badge of Leftist Obedience, MASK!
All admitted Lies, Including the JABB, a Product Never even Tested on Animals.
Yet here you are trying to keep the lie alive, why is that? The rest of the Nation made the connection between govt mandates and deaths.
It was just another flu season the left used for.... Have you even tried to figure out why they did it yet?

Apparently he missed all my credible links proving his sources biased...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10003049/Proof-BBC-wont-switch-bias-Broadcaster-demands-pay-denies-Left-wing.html

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/nicholas-booth-bbcs-leftist-bias-endemic-risible-also-counterproductive/

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/bbc-increasingly-left-wing-and-politically-correct-and-not-fit-purpose-2876031

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1371675/BBC-bias-BBC-news-left-wing-latest-study-comedy
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on October 10, 2022, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on October 10, 2022, 09:34:48 AMApparently he missed all my credible links proving his sources biased...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10003049/Proof-BBC-wont-switch-bias-Broadcaster-demands-pay-denies-Left-wing.html

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/nicholas-booth-bbcs-leftist-bias-endemic-risible-also-counterproductive/

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/bbc-increasingly-left-wing-and-politically-correct-and-not-fit-purpose-2876031

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1371675/BBC-bias-BBC-news-left-wing-latest-study-comedy
His AI never reads, only reacts to distract. He never debates, simply changes the subject and moves the goal posts.
He was never here for debate. And his BS claim he never visits sites we link to, because he says he doesn't trust was proven to be a lie, simply because he joined the enemy's website. A site that could very easily Dox him and feed him a virus.

But he knows full well we're not like him, we don't stoop to their levels. One reason is, we're winning, and they know it!
Hell, even if I thought we were losing, I'd still never stoop to their level.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 22, 2022, 08:35:36 AM
Must Watch!!!
This thread is full of evidence that the Marxists of the world Tried to kill us, and now, here's the proof.
RIP to those they succeeded in killing!



https://rumble.com/embed/v1to6s2/?pub=17yzhh
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on November 30, 2022, 07:23:50 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1597968308355354630
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on January 22, 2023, 01:29:07 PM
https://thelibertydaily.com/pro-vaxx-dilbert-creator-scott-adams-admits-profusely-the-anti-vaxxers-win/

QuotemRNA technology had been disastrous in ALL previous developments and tests, including horrible deaths for animal subjects a decade earlier.
Anthony Fauci was leading the charge to promote the jabs, and as everyone should have been aware of before listening to him, his track record of giving advice in the early days of new diseases is abysmal. Lest we forget, this is the guy who went on national television to tell people they could catch AIDS just be being near an infected family member.
One of the first nurses to get jabbed, Tiffany Dover, seemed to have an adverse reaction almost immediately. Some argue that she had a thing for needles, to which I would ask why they would pick someone who had a problem with needles to get jabbed on television? And why would she be a nurse if she's scared of needles? And where is she now?
Perhaps most importantly, by the time the jabs were ready to roll out, the death rates for Covid-19 had dropped dramatically. It was as if the numbers were artificially inflated ahead of the presidential election, only to have a perfectly timed miracle of three jabs simultaneously coming available a couple of weeks later.

I had forgotten about the nurse. Sign of things to come. Looking back, nothing was going to stop the unneeded, untested, drug.


And for those who say there never was a claim that the vaccine was 100% effective:
QuoteThat's just the data before the first jab rolled out. Within three weeks after they became available to the public, we saw the claims go from "100% effective" to "99% effective" to "94% effective." Within nine weeks the effectiveness had dropped under 90%, at which point they started shifting narratives from "breakthrough cases are rare" to "Covid vaccines don't stop infection or transmission but they reduce hospitalizations."

Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2023, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: Possum on January 22, 2023, 01:29:07 PMhttps://thelibertydaily.com/pro-vaxx-dilbert-creator-scott-adams-admits-profusely-the-anti-vaxxers-win/

I had forgotten about the nurse. Sign of things to come. Looking back, nothing was going to stop the unneeded, untested, drug.


And for those who say there never was a claim that the vaccine was 100% effective:

"One of the first nurses to get jabbed, Tiffany Dover, seemed to have an adverse reaction almost immediately."

She died, never came out of a coma. The family was paid a huge sum to keep quiet, but a sleuth did a family tree search and found she had actually died.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on January 22, 2023, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on January 22, 2023, 01:44:26 PM"One of the first nurses to get jabbed, Tiffany Dover, seemed to have an adverse reaction almost immediately."

She died, never came out of a coma. The family was paid a huge sum to keep quiet, but a sleuth did a family tree search and found she had actually died.
I'll say it again, the people pushing this are evil.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 04, 2023, 09:26:07 AM
Quote from: Possum on January 22, 2023, 02:34:20 PMI'll say it again, the people pushing this are evil.
We have stated several times it looks like the whole virus/vaccine was to reduce world population. This also points in that direction.

https://www.wnd.com/2023/02/study-nearly-half-women-took-covid-vax-experience-menstrual-changes/

QuoteThe Daily Clout reported comments from several experts, including Dr. Paul Thomas, who said, "If they get this COVID jab into every child ...that might be close to the end of the human race. Because we don't know what it's doing to fertility, but it does not look good."

And that is what evil looks like.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 04, 2023, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: Possum on February 04, 2023, 09:26:07 AMWe have stated several times it looks like the whole virus/vaccine was to reduce world population. This also points in that direction.

https://www.wnd.com/2023/02/study-nearly-half-women-took-covid-vax-experience-menstrual-changes/

And that is what evil looks like.
Procreation will come to a stand still. That was always a part of the plan.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 27, 2023, 07:39:30 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp99h5dWIAI3QRc?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 14, 2023, 07:08:29 AM
They Lied, It Never Cam From Animals!!!


 No good evidence yet that proves COVID came from animals, says former Chinese CDC head George Gao.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2023, 07:02:17 AM
The COVID-19 pandemic may have started with two separate leaks at Chinese labs doing risky "gain of function" research, a Republican senator said Monday.

A report released by Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.) raises the prospect that millions of lives could have been saved — including those of more than 1 million Americans — if not for a "coverup" by the Chinese government during a theorized initial outbreak.

"This report concludes most likely this was two leaks [including] a lab leak in the September-October [2019] timeframe, even as early as July or August," the medical doctor turned senator told a small group of journalists ahead of the release of the 301-page document.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/17/senate-gop-report-raises-possibility-of-two-covid-lab-leaks/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 18, 2023, 08:54:32 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2023, 07:02:17 AMThe COVID-19 pandemic may have started with two separate leaks at Chinese labs doing risky "gain of function" research, a Republican senator said Monday.

A report released by Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.) raises the prospect that millions of lives could have been saved — including those of more than 1 million Americans — if not for a "coverup" by the Chinese government during a theorized initial outbreak.

"This report concludes most likely this was two leaks [including] a lab leak in the September-October [2019] timeframe, even as early as July or August," the medical doctor turned senator told a small group of journalists ahead of the release of the 301-page document.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/17/senate-gop-report-raises-possibility-of-two-covid-lab-leaks/
Was always suspicious what this was a manufactured virus, (bio weapon) once the 'explanation(s)' for what supposedly occurred started to become public. All this only served to confirm just how embedded the CCP was in American politics.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2023, 10:12:13 AM
Quote from: WMK on April 18, 2023, 08:54:32 AMWas always suspicious what this was a manufactured virus, (bio weapon) once the 'explanation(s)' for what supposedly occurred started to become public. All this only served to confirm just how embedded the CCP was in American politics.
Yep, too many unanswered questions.

I caught it early on, nothing more than a bad flu.
I think it may have been a month after it's release, I was certain this was a global biological attack, whether premature in it's release, or planned, we'll know eventually.

Were those in charge planning a global wipeout of humanity planning a later release date when perfected?
Or maybe some working on the bug knew an early release could save save humanity?

Either way, there was never a good reason to develop such a strain, and we also know the money backers said they wanted to reduce the population by 5 billion people or more.

There is an evil entity at work planning our destruction, and with less people to fight back, a new global order could easily be put in place.
Schwab has talked about this in great length.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: WMK on April 18, 2023, 10:57:19 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2023, 10:12:13 AMYep, too many unanswered questions.

I caught it early on, nothing more than a bad flu.
I think it may have been a month after it's release, I was certain this was a global biological attack, whether premature in it's release, or planned, we'll know eventually.

Were those in charge planning a global wipeout of humanity planning a later release date when perfected?
Or maybe some working on the bug knew an early release could save save humanity?

Either way, there was never a good reason to develop such a strain :confused: , and we also know the money backers said they wanted to reduce the population by 5 billion people or more.

There is an evil entity at work planning our destruction, and with less people to fight back, a new global order could easily be put in place.
Schwab has talked about this in great length.

Think Gates also expressed soured sentiments on 'overpopulation'. And he wants to feed us synthetic beef!?! He's up to his neck in mRNA and other bio-meds.

Remember when you got Covid and talked about it. I retired in 2020 and caught the Delta variant 2-months after in Oct. Nothing more than cold symptoms, then periodic breathing disfunctions started 4 months afterwards.. even till now. No ordinary respiratory virus I've encountered prior had that kind of pattern. Ran from the jabs from day1!  Certified, battle tested anti vaxer here. :lol:
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2023, 11:05:22 AM
Quote from: WMK on April 18, 2023, 10:57:19 AMThink Gates also expressed soured sentiments on 'overpopulation'. And he wants to feed us synthetic beef!?! He's up to his neck in mRNA and other bio-meds.

Remember when you got Covid and talked about it. I retired in 2020 and caught the Delta variant 2-months after in Oct. Nothing more than cold symptoms, then periodic breathing disfunctions started 4 months afterwards.. even till now. No ordinary respiratory virus I've encountered prior had that kind of pattern. Ran from the jabs from day1!  Certified, battle tested anti vaxer here. :lol:

Yep, Gates and a litany of rich elites share this obsession.

Yeah, I had severe congestion, tired, but after a week it was pretty much gone, in fact, I guess it could be compared to a cold, with the exception, it didn't linger as long as previous cold that linger for as much as 2 months.

I still believe it was closer to a parasite than an actual virus.
They have still yet to isolate the actual bug.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on April 18, 2023, 12:03:12 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2023, 11:05:22 AMYep, Gates and a litany of rich elites share this obsession.

Yeah, I had severe congestion, tired, but after a week it was pretty much gone, in fact, I guess it could be compared to a cold, with the exception, it didn't linger as long as previous cold that linger for as much as 2 months.

I still believe it was closer to a parasite than an actual virus.
They have still yet to isolate the actual bug.
A virus is a type of parasite.
QuoteYes, a virus is a parisite.0 Viruses are small obligate intracellular parasites, which contain either a RNA or DNA genome surrounded by a protective, virus-coded protein coat.1 Parasites feed with parts or vital products from another living organism called host and the most common clinical signs of parasitoses are diseases.0

Which explains why ivermectin worked and Trump pushed it. But, as we know, if people took ivermectin, they would not need the jab.  I also think two leaks supports what we have been saying, it was on purpose. One leak might be an accident, two leaks are not.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2023, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: Possum on April 18, 2023, 12:03:12 PMA virus is a type of parasite.
Which explains why ivermectin worked and Trump pushed it. But, as we know, if people took ivermectin, they would not need the jab.  I also think two leaks supports what we have been saying, it was on purpose. One leak might be an accident, two leaks are not.
True, but this was one that lived outside the body, not the kind that relied on human transmission.
I think the article is still in this thread, but I don't remember the title.
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2023, 03:56:24 PM
Twitter Files: Dr. Anthony Fauci "Lied Under Oath"

"A lot of people are spouting out a lot of things about me and Twitter," Fauci told Fox News. "I've never had a Twitter account. I don't intend on having a Twitter account, and I've had nothing to do with Twitter. So I don't know what they're talking about when they say that."

Fauci made similar claims during an almost 7-hour deposition. While under oath, the then-medical advisor to President Biden denied using Twitter or even paying attention to social media.

"I don't do social media."

"Since I don't have a Twitter account, I don't see tweets."

"I'm so dissociated from social media ... I've never gotten involved in any of that."

"The social media and Twitter, I told you, I don't have a Twitter account. I don't tweet. I don't do Facebook. I don't do anything."

Not true according to a new Twitter File uncovered during a visit to Twitter's San Francisco HQ that shows Anthony Fauci...taking over the White House's Twitter account. "Dr. Anthony Fauci did an account takeover for @WHCOVIDResponse," reads a Twitter internal COVID-19 monthly update.

Sooooo Much More!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-files-dr-anthony-fauci
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2023, 07:36:56 AM
Soooo, What changed? :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl  :bigl


CDC Director Admits Vaccinated Can Transmit Covid to Others


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Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), has finally admitted that vaccinated people can transmit Covid to others.

Walensky made the admission during a hearing before Congress on Wednesday.

This comes after Walensky and other federal health officials have been spreading vaccine disinformation for over two years now.

In 2021, Walensky made the unsupported claim on national TV that people who had received a Covid shot "do not carry the virus" and "do not get sick."

"We've had an evolution of science and an evolution of the virus," Walensky told a congressional committee in Washington D.C. this week.

The statement "is no longer correct with the Omicron subvariants that we have right now," she added.

The Biden appointee also doubled down on her initial claim that vaccinated individuals couldn't spread the virus.

"Was that statement correct?" Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA) asked.

"At the time it was," Walensky responded.


https://slaynews.com/news/cdc-director-admits-vaccinated-can-transmit-covid/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on December 12, 2023, 06:46:05 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1734690680763818297
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 25, 2024, 05:49:30 AM
Canadian Doctors Admit Covid 'Booster' Shot Paralyzed Woman, Offer to Euthanize Her to 'Make Up for It'


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Canadian doctors have admitted that a Covid "booster" shot from Moderna is responsible for a young Ontario woman now being paralyzed for the rest of her life.

37-year-old mother Kayla Pollock is now paralyzed from the neck down after receiving the mRNA injection and says her life has become a "living hell."

According to a report from The Liberty Daily, however, doctors have offered to "make up for it" by euthanizing the young mom.

The doctors suggested that Pollock should apply for Canada's controversial Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) program and said they would help her application get accepted.

As Slay News has reported, Canada has some of the most liberal euthanasia laws in the world.

In recent years, the government has been increasingly relaxing the laws that were originally meant to give terminally ill people an option for dying.

However, the expansion of the laws means people can now be euthanized for far less severe issues such as depression, homelessness, or mental illness.

https://slaynews.com/news/canadian-doctors-admit-covid-booster-shot-paralyzed-woman-offer-euthanize/
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Possum on February 25, 2024, 06:04:19 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 25, 2024, 05:49:30 AMCanadian Doctors Admit Covid 'Booster' Shot Paralyzed Woman, Offer to Euthanize Her to 'Make Up for It'


(https://slaynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/kyla-pollock-canada-doctors-paralyzed-covid-vaccine-800x500.jpg)

Canadian doctors have admitted that a Covid "booster" shot from Moderna is responsible for a young Ontario woman now being paralyzed for the rest of her life.

37-year-old mother Kayla Pollock is now paralyzed from the neck down after receiving the mRNA injection and says her life has become a "living hell."

According to a report from The Liberty Daily, however, doctors have offered to "make up for it" by euthanizing the young mom.

The doctors suggested that Pollock should apply for Canada's controversial Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) program and said they would help her application get accepted.

As Slay News has reported, Canada has some of the most liberal euthanasia laws in the world.

In recent years, the government has been increasingly relaxing the laws that were originally meant to give terminally ill people an option for dying.

However, the expansion of the laws means people can now be euthanized for far less severe issues such as depression, homelessness, or mental illness.

https://slaynews.com/news/canadian-doctors-admit-covid-booster-shot-paralyzed-woman-offer-euthanize/
An honest media would have blown this wide open from the start. Unfortunately, we now have to rely on republicans to blow this open. We know how that has been going. :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing: 
Title: Re: COVID-19, known as WUFLU
Post by: Solar on February 25, 2024, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: Possum on February 25, 2024, 06:04:19 AMAn honest media would have blown this wide open from the start. Unfortunately, we now have to rely on republicans to blow this open. We know how that has been going. :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing:  :cursing: 
Yep, they lied, people died and suffered, yet they still push this bull shit?