Quote from: RV on March 28, 2021, 05:06:43 PM
This is just one more excuse to deny AMERICANS access, employment, etc. While they deny natural citizens, the Bejing administration is allowing illegals to flaunt our laws with impunity. I guess this is what the CCP is telling Bejing that they want done.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised...

Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2021, 05:34:24 PM
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised...

And once you have the passport which shows you have been vaccinated, in order to work, etc, what else will be demanded to be on that passport? It will not stop with just a vaccine. Will it show party affiliation? If any guns are registered? What religion?

Quote from: Possum on March 29, 2021, 03:19:59 AM
And once you have the passport which shows you have been vaccinated, in order to work, etc, what else will be demanded to be on that passport? It will not stop with just a vaccine. Will it show party affiliation? If any guns are registered? What religion?

That's the thing, it never ends and neither will this Marxist mask shit, with the exception of Red States, the left will continue their push in scaring the masses of ignorant.
"Two Weeks" that all we ask to flatten the curve, and here we are over a year later with little children thinking subservience is their future.

The Marxist DNC bit off more than it can chew and is choking on it.

Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2021, 07:35:00 AM
That's the thing, it never ends and neither will this Marxist mask shit, with the exception of Red States, the left will continue their push in scaring the masses of ignorant.
"Two Weeks" that all we ask to flatten the curve, and here we are over a year later with little children thinking subservience is their future.

The Marxist DNC bit off more than it can chew and is choking on it.

You are absolutely right, it NEVER ends. First they tried to tell us that the "lockdown and masks" were only for two weeks to "flatten the curve". Now it's a year later and what do we have? MORE lockdowns, MORE scare tactics, virus "mutations" and now the Marxist media is pushing vaccination 24/7. After the sheeple are "vaccinated" my guess is that there will be another "crisis", "pandemic" or some such nonsense to scare the wits out the masses.

You know when we had a car payment, the government couldn't have cared less. When my children were growing up, the government couldn't have cared less. When our basement had leaks, the government couldn't have cared less. When my wife had stage 4 Cancer, the government couldn't have cared less. When I was working my butt off with no insurance whatsoever, the government couldn't have cared less. When I had gall bladder trouble, the government couldn't have cared less. When the brake lines went out on my truck ON THE HIGHWAY AT SPEED, the government couldn't have cared less. When I went through SEVEN ROUNDS of chemotherapy each lasting a year, the government couldn't have cared less. NOW the government is trying to force me and my family to get an injection with zero accountability, zero foreknowledge of which one I'm getting and with no recourse should something go wrong? No thank you.

Quote from: RV on March 29, 2021, 09:34:53 AM
You are absolutely right, it NEVER ends. First they tried to tell us that the "lockdown and masks" were only for two weeks to "flatten the curve". Now it's a year later and what do we have? MORE lockdowns, MORE scare tactics, virus "mutations" and now the Marxist media is pushing vaccination 24/7. After the sheeple are "vaccinated" my guess is that there will be another "crisis", "pandemic" or some such nonsense to scare the wits out the masses.

Bingo!!!
They floated the two week balloon and discovered they could get away with it. Sure glad the GOP was out in front of this BS and put a Constitutional stop to it...

QuoteYou know when we had a car payment, the government couldn't have cared less. When my children were growing up, the government couldn't have cared less. When our basement had leaks, the government couldn't have cared less. When my wife had stage 4 Cancer, the government couldn't have cared less. When I was working my butt off with no insurance whatsoever, the government couldn't have cared less. When I had gall bladder trouble, the government couldn't have cared less. When the brake lines went out on my truck ON THE HIGHWAY AT SPEED, the government couldn't have cared less. When I went through SEVEN ROUNDS of chemotherapy each lasting a year, the government couldn't have cared less. NOW the government is trying to force me and my family to get an injection with zero accountability, zero foreknowledge of which one I'm getting and with no recourse should something go wrong? No thank you.

Yep, and suddenly they care? If it wasn't so scary, it would be laughable...

 

Covid: new vaccines needed globally within a year, say scientists

The planet could have a year or less before first-generation Covid-19 vaccines are ineffective and modified formulations are needed, according to a survey of epidemiologists, virologists and infectious disease specialists.

Scientists have long stressed that a global vaccination effort is needed to satisfactorily neutralise the threat of Covid-19. This is due to the threat of variations of the virus – some more transmissible, deadly and less susceptible to vaccines – that are emerging and percolating.

The grim forecast of a year or less comes from two-thirds of respondents, according to the People's Vaccine Alliance, a coalition of organisations including Amnesty International, Oxfam, and UNAIDS, who carried out the survey of 77 scientists from 28 countries. Nearly one-third of the respondents indicated that the time-frame was likely nine months or less.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/new-covid-vaccines-needed-within-year-say-scientists

Folks, you have to see this from 1956, it is spot on!!!

https://tv.gab.com/channel/1source/view/plague-in-2020-6063cb0e682ac3ead1836144

You keep repeating the same mistake.

You stubbornly do not want to separate the flies from the cutlets and try to either eat it all together, or, conversely, throw everything into the trash can.

Is there an epidemic or is there no epidemic?   The epidemic, without a doubt, is, as there is an almost annual epidemic of the already habitual "seasonal" flu.

Is this epidemic as terrible as many politicians are trying to portray for political purposes?    Apparently not. The death rate from Covid-19 does not exceed the death rate from the "seasonal" flu, and the rate of mutation of the Covid-19 virus is significantly lower than the rate of mutation of the flu virus.

Is the "lethality" of Covid-19 or Chinese disease higher than that of common flu (excluding the 1918 pandemic)?    No, not higher, but not lower either. The lethality of Covid-19 does not exceed the lethality of the Spanish flu under normal conditions.

Is Covid-19 More Contagious Than Flu?    Yes, it is more infectious, since the latent part of the disease, precisely when there is a possibility of this wide spread, is slightly 5 times higher than the infectiousness of the influenza.

Does wearing masks help prevent infection?   I do not know. But many doctors are already paying attention to the fact that due to wearing masks, people develop fungal diseases of the oral cavity and nose, which was previously extremely rare.

Is there a need for all kinds of isolation and self-isolation?   Of course, a person who has locked himself in an inaccessible place will not get sick now. But during the time of his isolation from other people, his immunity will weaken so much that upon termination of isolation this person will immediately fall ill with dozens of different viral and bacteriological diseases to which he was previously immune.

Are government actions dangerous for us? Of course they are. These actions have political goals, not medical ones.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on March 31, 2021, 08:17:20 PM
You keep repeating the same mistake.

You stubbornly do not want to separate the flies from the cutlets and try to either eat it all together, or, conversely, throw everything into the trash can.

Is there an epidemic or is there no epidemic?   The epidemic, without a doubt, is, as there is an almost annual epidemic of the already habitual "seasonal" flu.

Is this epidemic as terrible as many politicians are trying to portray for political purposes?    Apparently not. The death rate from Covid-19 does not exceed the death rate from the "seasonal" flu, and the rate of mutation of the Covid-19 virus is significantly lower than the rate of mutation of the flu virus.

Is the "lethality" of Covid-19 or Chinese disease higher than that of common flu (excluding the 1918 pandemic)?    No, not higher, but not lower either. The lethality of Covid-19 does not exceed the lethality of the Spanish flu under normal conditions.

Is Covid-19 More Contagious Than Flu?    Yes, it is more infectious, since the latent part of the disease, precisely when there is a possibility of this wide spread, is slightly 5 times higher than the infectiousness of the influenza.

Does wearing masks help prevent infection?   I do not know. But many doctors are already paying attention to the fact that due to wearing masks, people develop fungal diseases of the oral cavity and nose, which was previously extremely rare.

Is there a need for all kinds of isolation and self-isolation?   Of course, a person who has locked himself in an inaccessible place will not get sick now. But during the time of his isolation from other people, his immunity will weaken so much that upon termination of isolation this person will immediately fall ill with dozens of different viral and bacteriological diseases to which he was previously immune.

Are government actions dangerous for us? Of course they are. These actions have political goals, not medical ones.

It amounts to a really nasty cold.

We get our second vaccine tomorrow, but going forward we'll still wear masks and follow basic guidelines. Neither my wife or I have had the flu or flu shot, this time the easily spread Covid changed our minds. Book below 'death statistics' is worth your time. Check it out. Covers many of the viruses etc that pop up in the news and are usually resolved one way or another. Remember mad cow or toxic shock?

'Coronavirus vs. Flu Deaths'

COVID-19: There have been approximately 2,805,972 deaths reported worldwide. In the U.S, 550,998 people have died of COVID-19 between January 2020 and March 31, 2021.*

Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu


"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions." quote from book below

'Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs'  Michael T. Osterholm, Mark Olshaker

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy

Quote from: Solar on April 01, 2021, 04:12:32 AM
It amounts to a really nasty cold.

For SOME. For others, they may not even know they have it.

Quote from: RV on April 01, 2021, 04:55:59 AM
For SOME. For others, they may not even know they have it.

yEP, fAUCI PROCLAIMED EVEN THOUGH YOU TEST NEGATIVE, FEEL FINE, NO SYMPTOMS, YOU COULD BE A ccp FLU SPREADER AND MUST WEAR A MASK.


dAMN CAPS LOCK KEY.

Quote from: Solar on April 01, 2021, 07:25:55 AM

I agree, it is VERY suspicious!

Quote from: RV on April 01, 2021, 08:13:21 AM
I agree, it is VERY suspicious!

Anything we don't understand looks suspicious to us. When the first vaccinations against Smallpox were introduced in Russia in the 18th century, there were not less than 2 popular riots against and hundreds or thousands of people died. Empress Catherine II had to be publicly vaccinated to force people to follow her experience.

Unfortunately, the unfortunate, feeble-minded old man who now lives in the White House is not as smart as Catherine.

Yes, the vaccine came out very quickly. But don't forget how much money President Trump spent on researching the problem and making vaccines.

In addition, most of anti "the 2019 Chinese flu" vaccines were practically developed earlier, when planet Earth was threatened by another strain of the Coronavirus - Swine Flu 10-12 years earlier.

Yes, there are not vaccines for all diseases. Moreover, in the future, not all diseases will be cured, and some of the current drugs have already become or are becoming useless. Antibiotics, for example, are no longer even being developed. The bacteria that cause diseases that have been treated with antibiotics have developed resistance to many of them.

Fleming himself, who discovered antibiotics, warned about this in his Nobel lecture.

In nature, there are thousands of types of diseases, united under the general name Cancer. One hundred and fifty of them strike a human. I don't think any vaccine has overcome all of them.

But, before, people died from many types of cancer very quickly, and now they live with it or after it for decades.

It's the same with AIDS. Now drugs have been created for which the viral load of patients is 0 (!), And, as President Trump promised us, doctors will soon completely cope with this disease, just as there is no more Black Pox, Fieldomeliolitis in nature, Halera and the Bubonic Plague are very rare. Diseases that carried away up to 3/4 of the population of many countries in the Middle Ages.

Well, and what is very important, the "normal" influenza virus is much smaller in size than the coronavirus and mutates ten times faster than the Chinese disease virus.