Because they want to get away from the crackpots who have destroyed Oregon and California. They are petitioning to create a "Greater Idaho." Check out their Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/GreaterIdaho

I had heard about this since they are in my neck of the woods.  There was an attempt to get it on the ballot, not sure what happened.  We here in Eastern WA would like to join this new state.

However, there are pockets in Idaho that are really just small Caleefornyaas.  Spokane, Boise, Cda in Idaho are quickly becoming marxist.  Good news is that there are not enough marxist votes on the east to block conservatives.  Without Seattle, Spokane can't do anything.  Portlandia is a miserable shit hole.

The only real answer is to stay and Fight!!! Moving is a cowards way out, and not one damn thing will change!
Moving an entire geographical region is a fools folly, the entire area will eventually become the very thing they tried to escape.

Quote from: Solar on November 22, 2020, 09:10:24 AM
The only real answer is to stay and Fight!!! Moving is a cowards way out, and not one damn thing will change!
Moving an entire geographical region is a fools folly, the entire area will eventually become the very thing they tried to escape.

Depends on the battle, doesn't it? Politics is purely a numbers game. In order to shake things up you have to have the numbers to legislate. Liberals migrate and turn good states bad. Why can't conservatives migrate and turn bad states good for a change?
Take a look at areas where good neighborhoods went bad; so bad that they ended up looking like a war zone. It's only at that point that the smart money comes in, renovates on a large scale and increases the property value. What caused the deterioration of that neighborhood in the first place was good politics gone bad. Leftists are the purveyors of destructive policies where ALL things are impacted negatively

Quote from: WMK on November 22, 2020, 09:40:40 AM
Depends on the battle, doesn't it? Politics is purely a numbers game. In order to shake things up you have to have the numbers to legislate. Liberals migrate and turn good states bad. Why can't conservatives migrate and turn bad states good for a change?
Take a look at areas where good neighborhoods went bad; so bad that they ended up looking like a war zone. It's only at that point that the smart money comes in, renovates on a large scale and increases the property value. What caused the deterioration of that neighborhood in the first place was good politics gone bad. Marxism is the purveyor of destruction in ALL things.

History proves it doesn't work that way. There was a time when 98% of the country was Conservative.
Running from a problem never solved one thing, unless you're a coward and run from everything, and even then, you get no peace.

The only real answer is to stay and fight the enemy, stand your ground, like we're seeing all over Ca, people are tired of cowering.

The biggest problem is once these libtards destroy a city or state, they move to a state where they are not being taxed to death.  Next thing ya know the new host state has enough do gooders from the shithole they created that they then run for office and presto change o it's another shithole state.

We have a commie governor that let a bunch of idiots take over a downtown area in Seattle.  When he finally went in with the national guard, he had the guard disarmed.  In spite of that the commie was just re-elected for his third miserable term by over 1 million votes.

I'm not saying turn tail and run, but when a commie that has made the state a shithole gets re-elected by that margin against a sheriff that said he believed in the Constitution, well it would seem there is not much hope.  I'm not leaving the state because of this, in fact this little corner of the state is 80% conservative.  But it would be nice to have just a little nonmarxist crap coming our way.

I get people being pissed at OR and CA, but, they need to check the direction ID is going, and it ain't good.  Seems like the local school boards is where folks need to focus.  Get the PC shit out of our classrooms.

One last note, the dominion voting machines were used over in the SeaTac area.   

They are not running from the problems. They are gathering together to become larger and stronger. Let them have Portland and keep it weird if they want. I am all for this new initiative should it start getting more traction. If it were to happen, then conservatives would have a huge swath of land and a major Electoral College voting bloc. What would be left of Oregon (Portland) would dwindle to nothing. Think of this as a chess move.

Quote from: TD on November 22, 2020, 05:44:15 PM
They are not running from the problems. They are gathering together to become larger and stronger. Let them have Portland and keep it weird if they want. I am all for this new initiative should it start getting more traction. If it were to happen, then conservatives would have a huge swath of land and a major Electoral College voting bloc. What would be left of Oregon (Portland) would dwindle to nothing. Think of this as a chess move.

Then what happens when all the libs bail and invade Idaho, just like NY and DC did to Ca back in the 1960s?

Better to stay and fight, Cons out number libs everywhere, yet no one ever does anything to change the mess, no, they just run away and hope it doesn't follow.

Quote from: Solar on November 22, 2020, 06:01:20 PM
Then what happens when all the libs bail and invade Idaho, just like NY and DC did to Ca back in the 1960s?

Better to stay and fight, Cons out number libs everywhere, yet no one ever does anything to change the mess, no, they just run away and hope it doesn't follow.

Therein lies the problem.  The good folks that work and pay taxes, with little to no respect for the taxes the pay, leave.  Then after leaving the shithole cities, the libs/marxist/left/democraps are left where they will ruin every industry and within two weeks will be running around naked throwing spears at each other.  Next thing ya know they show up in your new city.  The west coast is a perfect example.

The commie governors and mayors are just there temporarily to rape and rob the city treasury and then they leave.  So no big deal to them if the natives burn the city to the ground. 

I understand the frustration of those in northern CA and eastern OR and WA.  I moved here to be left alone and to live in peace.  New law after new law is making that tough.  The commies over on the coast are now telling us what we can burn in our yards or burn barrels.  ANY semi-auto long gun is an assault weapon now.  The commies got involved with our gun rights, the background check for a new purchase is so screwed up they can only guess when the check will be done.  Our concealed permits no longer allow us to walk out of the store with a new gun.  All this was done at the ballot box after Bloomberg and his group came in and got the coast commies to vote for it.   

Quote from: Pop Daddy on November 23, 2020, 10:09:02 AM
Therein lies the problem.  The good folks that work and pay taxes, with little to no respect for the taxes the pay, leave.  Then after leaving the shithole cities, the libs/marxist/left/democraps are left where they will ruin every industry and within two weeks will be running around naked throwing spears at each other.  Next thing ya know they show up in your new city.  The west coast is a perfect example.

The commie governors and mayors are just there temporarily to rape and rob the city treasury and then they leave.  So no big deal to them if the natives burn the city to the ground. 

I understand the frustration of those in northern CA and eastern OR and WA.  I moved here to be left alone and to live in peace.  New law after new law is making that tough.  The commies over on the coast are now telling us what we can burn in our yards or burn barrels.  ANY semi-auto long gun is an assault weapon now.  The commies got involved with our gun rights, the background check for a new purchase is so screwed up they can only guess when the check will be done.  Our concealed permits no longer allow us to walk out of the store with a new gun.  All this was done at the ballot box after Bloomberg and his group came in and got the coast commies to vote for it.   

Yep, just look to Portland and Seattle, the radicals they supported turned on them. If that isn't a wakeup call?
I have faith we can take Ca back. The Marxists drove the producers out of the state taking with them hundreds of thousands voting libs.

What they left behind is the base, the families who've been here for decades, small business owners, people with a vested interest in the State. We stayed, and the left will have to contend with us, and now that voting will be fair in the future, and the census redraws district lines, the left won't have a prayer.

There has been a "State of Jefferson" movement for decades, joining parts of Oregon and California. Now we have a "greater Idaho" movement. They attempted to gather signatures to put it on the ballot and it fell short (yes, I signed the petition)

  Oregon like other left leaning states is ran by the urban cities, Mostly Portland and Eugene. TimberUnity made alot of waves and the movement is growing but until we end our states Mail in only voting I fear not much can change. Since it was implemented not one Republican has won a major race...not one.. there was a brush up a week or so ago when Oregon's Sec of state fired our states election director after some vulnerabilities were brought to light. Its been swept under the rug, nobody can get answers and nobody is accountable to the voters.  https://katu.com/news/politics/oregon-secretary-of-state-bev-clarno-fires-states-elections-director-stephen-trout

There is only so much we can do and only so far I'm willing to fight before throwing up my hands and moving.

Quote from: AmericanMom on November 23, 2020, 03:36:25 PM
There has been a "State of Jefferson" movement for decades, joining parts of Oregon and California. Now we have a "greater Idaho" movement. They attempted to gather signatures to put it on the ballot and it fell short (yes, I signed the petition)

Yeah, I was a member of the Jefferson, some truly great patriots, but as I continued to watch the courts create hurdles, I got pissed and spoke my piece.

I said Fuck this State, let's do what the left would do, just declare it and tell them to take us to court, force Ca to spend the money to stop us.
"Oh No, we have to follow the law"...

So here we are years later and nothing to show for it, with the exception of lawyers getting rich.

  Oregon like other left leaning states is ran by the urban cities, Mostly Portland and Eugene. TimberUnity made alot of waves and the movement is growing but until we end our states Mail in only voting I fear not much can change. Since it was implemented not one Republican has won a major race...not one.. there was a brush up a week or so ago when Oregon's Sec of state fired our states election director after some vulnerabilities were brought to light. Its been swept under the rug, nobody can get answers and nobody is accountable to the voters.  https://katu.com/news/politics/oregon-secretary-of-state-bev-clarno-fires-states-elections-director-stephen-trout

There is only so much we can do and only so far I'm willing to fight before throwing up my hands and moving.

Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2020, 10:54:06 AM

Yep, just look to Portland and Seattle, the radicals they supported turned on them. If that isn't a wakeup call?
I have faith we can take Ca back. The Marxists drove the producers out of the state taking with them hundreds of thousands voting libs.

What they left behind is the base, the families who've been here for decades, small business owners, people with a vested interest in the State. We stayed, and the left will have to contend with us, and now that voting will be fair in the future, and the census redraws district lines, the left won't have a prayer.

If there was no voter fraud, would California be conservative? I keep seeing where arrests are still being made here in Texas for fraud by liberals. At least now I know why beto almost beat cheated Cruz.

Quote from: Possum on November 23, 2020, 03:51:51 PM
If there was no voter fraud, would California be conservative? I keep seeing where arrests are still being made here in Texas for fraud by liberals. At least now I know why beto almost beat cheated Cruz.

Yep, it's not over by a longshot, Ca is still in play because Dims also used the fraud voting system.
Add to that, the census, looks like we'll lose a couple of seats, or rather the Dims will lose a couple of seats when the dust settles.