Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 03, 2010, 07:15:28 PM
In the 20th century.  It was in all the papers.
Never enough for my satisfaction, mind you.
I'm a truly Progressive individual capitalist.
I'm not claimimg to be a Democrat. 
Never have been.  Probably never will.

What is a Progressive Capitalist?

Quote from: Cryptic Bert on October 03, 2010, 07:18:01 PM
What is a Progressive Capitalist?

One that uses only your money and not theres for everything.  ;D

  What do I want to happen...I want alot of things to happen, but im alot like crepe, first things first, I want the gop to take back the majority of both chambers. Unfortunately, I dont see alot happening unless that does happen and then you still have the veto pen to slow every change down.....
   I want obama care repealed totally, I want bush tax cuts permanent, I want a realistic roll back of all the new spending obama has instituted...then a real look at the rest and a systematic approach to priortize what gets cut to lessen govt.
   Long term nothing happens unless we change public education back to being education and not indoctrination and CUT THEIR BUDGETS IN HALF...

Quote from: Dan on October 03, 2010, 03:38:26 PM
Exactly! Remember that Obama is a stiff-necked ideologue with the veto pen. The self preservation instincts of guys like Ben Nelson will be needed to get us to veto proof majorities, but there is only so far the Ben Nelsons of the world are going move. That's why we can't expect to get too crazy before 2012.

Remember, the "Ben Nelsons of the world" have to do what the people who put them office want them to do.  Again, I'll say, we have to have candidates who are willing to talk about what they actually want to do and who can say it so that people can understand it.  Too often we put forth candidates who don't have the best verbal skills.

Quote from: Indy on October 03, 2010, 05:18:58 PM
You all touched on some very good points. I think in addition we should once and for all open up drilling. Don't let the democrats force us to purchase oil from our enemies.I'm tired of the Obama's lending money to other countries petroleum industry.The idea that wind and solar, industries that have to be heavily subsidized by the government, are  remotely a viable alternative is ludicrous.Yes, we do need to think ahead to the future, but cutting our energy supplies will only raise costs across the board. And once again the middle class will pick up the tab.This behavior manipulation by elitists has got to stop.

That's a great idea!  We have to have control of our own energy and not rely on other nation's.  Open up all drilling; offshore and on land. 

The quickest and most economical path towards energy independence is more nuclear power plants. Any serious discussion of the subject starts with nuclear power.  ;)

Quote from: Dan on October 04, 2010, 06:55:28 AM
The quickest and most economical path towards energy independence is more nuclear power plants. Any serious discussion of the subject starts with nuclear power.  ;)

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"As of June 30, 2010 in 30 countries 438 nuclear power plant units with an installed electric net capacity of about 372 GW are in operation and 61 plants with an installed capacity of 59 GW are in 16 countries under construction."

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"As of end 2009 the total electricity production since 1951 amounts to 64,600 billion kWh. The cumulative operating experience amounted to 14,092 years by June 2010."



Nuclear power plants, world-wide


Yet we sit on or ass.

Yep. We sit on our ass as the tree huggers on the left present us the false choice of only using the most expensive kwh alternative (renewable) while simultaneously bemoaning the loss of our manufacturing base.

Energy, labor and materials are your 3 main cost components to manufacturing. And the left is doing all it can to drive up the costs associated with energy and labor while trying to push through massive tax increases to boot.

Yet somehow they act surprised when businesses move operations overseas or keep capital on the sidelines.  :o :D ::) :P

Quote from: Dan on October 04, 2010, 06:55:28 AM
The quickest and most economical path towards energy independence is more nuclear power plants. Any serious discussion of the subject starts with nuclear power.  ;)

I'm on the side of nuclear power.  My word, it's used in European countries and it has been for years.  mr crepe worked at a nuclear power plant in Omaha before I met him which was close to 30 years ago.

Quote from: crepe05 on October 04, 2010, 07:40:56 AM
I'm on the side of nuclear power.  My word, it's used in European countries and it has been for years.  mr crepe worked at a nuclear power plant in Omaha before I met him which was close to 30 years ago.

Solar was the one who explained it to me. Hopefully he will weigh in on the matter because he can articulate it way better than me.

Quote from: Dan on October 04, 2010, 07:40:28 AM
Yep. We sit on our ass as the tree huggers on the left present us the false choice of only using the most expensive kwh alternative (renewable) while simultaneously bemoaning the loss of our manufacturing base.

Energy, labor and materials are your 3 main cost components to manufacturing. And the left is doing all it can to drive up the costs associated with energy and labor while trying to push through massive tax increases to boot.

Yet somehow they act surprised when businesses move operations overseas or keep capital on the sidelines.  :o :D ::) :P

Now add to that, the ignorance of the Leftists in power.
They pushed for alternative energy, well fine, but they shot themselves in the foot, they have tied up the rare Earth minerals that are required in the manufacture of magnets in the wind turbines, the minerals that go into Solar panels, the batteries like Lithium Ion, another product that requires these minerals.

China produces 97% of these minerals.
Ours are locked up in mountain ranges and deserts across the Nation, areas that envirofreaks have made off limits, to mining, even foot traffic, all just to punish those that would dare cut down a tree for heat, or fish in the streams to feed their families.

Nuclear is essential, but it has so damned much red tape, it takes forever to get one built.

Oil, Coal, Shale, these are abundant in our Country, andthe left has all but tied them up.

For people to even think these morons have this Countries best interests in mind, is either a liar, or one of the stupidest and most gullible morons on the Planet.
Don't get me started on AGW, only an complete idiot would be unable to make the connection to the communist plot that is the environmental green movement.

Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2010, 07:59:44 AM
Nuclear is essential, but it has so damned much red tape, it takes forever to get one built.

When in power, the right ought to focus on cutting this red tape in the name of energy independence and reducing the need to spend american blood and treasure in the middle east.

Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2010, 07:59:44 AMOil, Coal, Shale, these are abundant in our Country, andthe left has all but tied them up.

Ditto. Economic security should be the key phrase we use when pushing to unlock our access to these resources in our own back yard. Not to mention talking about all the good paying jobs and royalty income and improved trade balance that will result from this activity.

The trade imbalance goes down. Unemployment goes down. The tax base in the country goes up. And we have less exposure to middle east political instability.

Other than a few wide-eyed leftist loons, exactly what is keeping us from exploiting US resources for US energy needs?