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Title: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Yawn on January 21, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
Sadly, the Demonrat plan is already working among many here. Many "conservatives" just don't know how to win elections. Demonrats are happy to win in baby steps. Conservative/Libertarian "purists" always shoot themselves (and the country) in the foot waiting for the "perfect" man (in their eyes).

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Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
I'll ask the demonrats to stop dividing and conquering when repugnicans learn to win.  Deal?
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2013, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
I'll ask the demonrats to stop dividing and conquering when repugnicans learn to win.  Deal?

We've done pretty well but continue to give the Democrats as you will...
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 07:31:50 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 07:00:15 PM
We've done pretty well but continue to give the Democrats as you will...

it's about likeability and an attachment to the common man.  Figured you all learned that when you someone managed to run W., a Harvard grad and multi billionaire as an outsider and win. Still wondering how the hell you pulled that off.  Heh

But yea, appeal to the common man.  Romney was detached and fail from day one.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2013, 08:00:33 PM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 07:31:50 PM
it's about likeability and an attachment to the common man.  Figured you all learned that when you someone managed to run W., a Harvard grad and multi billionaire as an outsider and win. Still wondering how the hell you pulled that off.  Heh

But yea, appeal to the common man.  Romney was detached and fail from day one.

Actually my post completely went over your head. As for what you wrote, it's nothing but talking points.

So much for seeing the obvious. heh....
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 08:00:33 PM
Actually my post completely went over your head. As for what you wrote, it's nothing but talking points.

So much for seeing the obvious. heh....

You're post is unintelligible jibberish.  not even a complete sentence. Just trying to be helpful regardless.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2013, 08:56:13 PM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
You're post is unintelligible jibberish.  not even a complete sentence. Just trying to be helpful regardless.

Really? Any road we control the governorship and/or control both houses of the state legislature in 24 states.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 08:56:13 PM
Really? Any road we control the governorship and/or control both houses of the state legislature in 24 states.

How's that working for ya?
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2013, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 09:06:59 PM
How's that working for ya?

Considering we almost represent half the country?
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 09:10:41 PM
Considering we almost represent half the country?

Almost is almost good enough huh?  That's the problem with our winner takes all election system.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 09:25:36 PM
Almost is almost good enough huh?  That's the problem with our winner takes all election system.

LOL!

If that were true then the Democrats would control the Presidency and both the house and Senate now wouldn't they...
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: walkstall on January 21, 2013, 09:40:02 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
LOL!

If that were true then the Democrats would control the Presidency and both the house and Senate now wouldn't they...

:lol:  They could not even pass a budget when they had all three. 
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 09:42:40 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
LOL!

If that were true then the Democrats would control the Presidency and both the house and Senate now wouldn't they...

What? 
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: walkstall on January 21, 2013, 09:40:02 PM
:lol:  They could not even pass a budget when they had all three.

Me thinks our new friend is not new.....
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2013, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 09:42:40 PM
What?

Move along cupcake...
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: walkstall on January 21, 2013, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Me thinks our new friend is not new.....

You have to give him a C - for trying again.   :lol:
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
LOL!

If that were true then the Democrats would control the Presidency and both the house and Senate now wouldn't they...

I think you misunderstood.  We have a winner takes all election system, meaning the losing candidate gets no seat at the table even if he represents 49% of the populace. Not that since the president won, all democrats running for every office wins.  Derp derp.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 21, 2013, 10:37:22 PM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
I think you misunderstood.  We have a winner takes all election system, meaning the losing candidate gets no seat at the table even if he represents 49% of the populace. Not that since the president won, all democrats running for every office wins.  Derp derp.

We have three branches of government Derp Derp. So whatever Obama wants Obama doesn't necessarily get.

Keep digging "derp"...
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 22, 2013, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: walkstall on January 21, 2013, 09:46:56 PM
You have to give him a C - for trying again.   :lol:

Or a D for soon to be dumped...
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 12:46:14 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 10:37:22 PM
We have three branches of government Derp Derp. So whatever Obama wants Obama doesn't necessarily get.

Keep digging "derp"...

Again, what is your point?  There is nothing debatable about what I said, we do in fact have a winner takes all system of voting. That's also why there are only 2 parties.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 22, 2013, 12:55:35 AM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 12:46:14 AM
Again, what is your point?  There is nothing debatable about what I said, we do in fact have a winner takes all system of voting. That's also why there are only 2 parties.
What did Obama win?
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 01:01:03 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 22, 2013, 12:55:35 AM
What did Obama win?

A cookie?
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 22, 2013, 01:03:54 AM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 01:01:03 AM
A cookie?
I see you are really not here to debate or discuss anything. We figured that out several posts ago...
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 01:06:04 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 22, 2013, 01:03:54 AM
I see you are really not here to debate or discuss anything. We figured that out several posts ago...

I'm just trying to understand your jibberish.  What do you mean by that question?  I suppose you have some stunning point to make, just waiting on it.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 22, 2013, 01:15:18 AM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 01:06:04 AM
I'm just trying to understand your jibberish.  What do you mean by that question?  I suppose you have some stunning point to make, just waiting on it.

So now you are pretending. Cowards are fun...for a bit...
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 01:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 22, 2013, 01:15:18 AM
So now you are pretending. Cowards are fun...for a bit...

I accept your concession of defeat.

*hats off*
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Cryptic Bert on January 22, 2013, 01:35:34 AM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 01:20:28 AM
I accept your concession of defeat.

*hats off*

Your running away is my concession? You were being honest when you said you knew Phillip.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 01:41:15 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 22, 2013, 01:35:34 AM
Your running away is my concession? You were being honest when you said you knew Phillip.

I asked a sincere question as to what you meant and was met with more nonsense jibberish and derision.  This is fun but I gave up  on getting an honest debate out of you after like my second post on these forums.

Just waiting for the others to wake up at this point.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: The Stranger on January 22, 2013, 06:16:58 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 21, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Me thinks our new friend is not new.....

I thought that many posts back. Either the libs are such followers (which most are) of MM and DNC talking points they can no longer think, or this a hold over from a dying forum I used to belong to who I know were here a few times and were eliminated because they made reference to it in the other forum a while back. 
Some others from there may comment.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: mdgiles on January 22, 2013, 06:44:56 AM
I think conservatives should stop allowing themselves to be convinced that they suffered some terrifying defeat because of our beliefs. In reality - except for some deep blue failed states - and then only in the urban areas of those states - the country is red. One thing we REALLY need to do, is to stop marching along in lockstep with the Leftoid belief that all power flows out of Washington, DC.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: The Stranger on January 22, 2013, 06:57:01 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on January 22, 2013, 06:44:56 AM
One thing we REALLY need to do, is to stop marching along in lockstep with the Leftoid belief that all power flows out of Washington, DC.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2013, 07:04:18 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on January 22, 2013, 06:44:56 AM
I think conservatives should stop allowing themselves to be convinced that they suffered some terrifying defeat because of our beliefs. In reality - except for some deep blue failed states - and then only in the urban areas of those states - the country is red. One thing we REALLY need to do, is to stop marching along in lockstep with the Leftoid belief that all power flows out of Washington, DC.
Giles, you hit the nail again!
The idea that the Leftists won everything because of the Presidential election is an illusion being perpetuated by the leftist media.
In truth, all he won was another 4 years of having his hands tied, his first term had all three Houses, now he has nothing, otherwise he wouldn't be pushing worthless EOs past the House.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 07:29:41 AM
Quote from: The Stranger on January 22, 2013, 06:16:58 AM
I thought that many posts back. Either the libs are such followers (which most are) of MM and DNC talking points they can no longer think, or this a hold over from a dying forum I used to belong to who I know were here a few times and were eliminated because they made reference to it in the other forum a while back. 
Some others from there may comment.

Capt.Obvious brings back nightmares I am trying forget from my previous board.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2013, 07:41:09 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 07:29:41 AM
Capt.Obvious brings back nightmares I am trying forget from my previous board.
They all sound alike for a reason, they all get the same talking points, they all fall back on rehearsed answers, they are drones, not thinking individuals.
He's just one of thousands of empty headed serfs the left uses to get out the talking points.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: mdgiles on January 22, 2013, 09:04:14 AM
The power of the Dems, since the New Deal days, has been based upon their ability to distribute Federal largesse. BUT the country is going broke. Obozo can talk all he wants about "taxing the rich", but the top 5% of the taxpayers already pay 60% of the tax bill. There ain't no money there anymore. As the Dems lose their ability to hand out money, so they lose any ability to satisfy their base. Imagine your supporters all depend on the government dime - and there ain't no more dime! You've reached the late Empire stage, no more bread, no more circuses and the Praetorians are starting to sound restless. The funny thing about the late Empire, was that many of the local areas were still fairly prosperous - as long as the imperial government stayed away.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 09:23:06 AM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
I'll ask the demonrats to stop dividing and conquering when repugnicans learn to win.  Deal?
Oh look, a liberal with a cute little childish nickname for the GOP.  I'm surprised.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 07:31:50 PM
it's about likeability and an attachment to the common man.  Figured you all learned that when you someone managed to run W., a Harvard grad and multi billionaire as an outsider and win. Still wondering how the hell you pulled that off.  Heh

But yea, appeal to the common man.  Romney was detached and fail from day one.

Oh look, a liberal who calls all GOP folks "evil rich" but has nothing to say about Kerry, Soros, Buffet, Pelosi, Reid, et al.  Or Obama's kowtowing to GE and whoever bankrolls him.  I'm surprised.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 09:27:05 AM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 21, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
You're post is unintelligible jibberish.  not even a complete sentence. Just trying to be helpful regardless.
Oh look, a liberal engaging in "I'm smart and you are dumb".  I'm surprised to discover such a thing.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 09:33:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 22, 2013, 07:41:09 AM
They all sound alike for a reason, they all get the same talking points, they all fall back on rehearsed answers, they are drones, not thinking individuals.
He's just one of thousands of empty headed serfs the left uses to get out the talking points.
The most bothersome thing is their total inability to be embarrassed, shamed, or contrite.

They wear their dishonesty, illogic, and childishness on their collars for all to see, like a badge of honor.

And sadly they do win with it, in the current climate.

On the message boards it's not all that important, just annoying.  But the wins they get in the real world are galling and appalling.

All we need is some new blood in the GOP that's not so weak, self-absorbed, and country club "too good to engage the rabble".

Like terrorists, they will only ever flinch when hit back in the face with their own tactics, twice as hard.

That's where we've got to go.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 10:20:24 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 09:33:06 AM
The most bothersome thing is their total inability to be embarrassed, shamed, or contrite.

They wear their dishonesty, illogic, and childishness on their collars for all to see, like a badge of honor.

And sadly they do win with it, in the current climate.

On the message boards it's not all that important, just annoying.  But the wins they get in the real world are galling and appalling.

All we need is some new blood in the GOP that's not so weak, self-absorbed, and country club "too good to engage the rabble".

Like terrorists, they will only ever flinch when hit back in the face with their own tactics, twice as hard.

That's where we've got to go.

:thumbsup: Do es anyone think and boys even listened to what Obama said yesterday? They are the target!
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: JustKari on January 22, 2013, 10:31:28 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 07:29:41 AM
Capt.Obvious brings back nightmares I am trying forget from my previous board.

He makes me think of this guy.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/profile/?u=1769 (http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/profile/?u=1769)
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
Quote from: Solar on January 22, 2013, 07:41:09 AM
They all sound alike for a reason, they all get the same talking points, they all fall back on rehearsed answers, they are drones, not thinking individuals.
He's just one of thousands of empty headed serfs the left uses to get out the talking points.

But you guys have totally fresh and new ideas huh?  No conservative talking points here right?

lol

I'm proudly partisan on many issues for there are some things I will not compromise on.  Surely you can say the same?
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 10:50:22 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 09:23:06 AM
Oh look, a liberal with a cute little childish nickname for the GOP.  I'm surprised.

LOL you may have missed all the 'demonrats' in which I was replying too.  O actually start posting in this thread in hopes of real debate and instead was met with,

'insert derogatory word here' lib.  Take your own medicine.  I do think it's cute that you took offense to that though.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 10:54:09 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 09:27:05 AM
Oh look, a liberal engaging in "I'm smart and you are dumb".  I'm surprised to discover such a thing.

Oh look!  A butt hurt conservative.  I thought you guys were supposed to be like real man tough.  You could at least pretend to be tough about it.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: The Stranger on January 22, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
But you guys have totally fresh and new ideas huh?  No conservative talking points here right?

lol

I'm proudly partisan on many issues for there are some things I will not compromise on.  Surely you can say the same?

Your missing the point with me anyway and I have said this for years, I was a business owner as well as a boss my entire adult life. I would rather have someone disagree with me and get in my face with their own thoughts. I have no problem with this. I tell the story of an assistant I had for years where we would get in knock down drag out disagreements then go to lunch. A few employees asked me a few times weren't you two just arguing and I would say yea now it's over and we move on.
Liberals are not capable of this with there one tract talking point follower mind. Y'all do not think for yourself only what you are told. Then as you have done deny what was said and go right to attack like calling a post gibberish, that is a liberal tactic, it was very clear what was said but YOU were told to deny and divert. Or there is always the famous go to and BLAME Bush. Same ole same ole!
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Solar on January 22, 2013, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: JustKari on January 22, 2013, 10:31:28 AM
He makes me think of this guy.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/profile/?u=1769 (http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/profile/?u=1769)
Good eye.
I just figured he was your typical run of the mill troll with nothing new to add to the debate.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 11:22:30 AM
Quote from: The Stranger on January 22, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
Your missing the point with me anyway and I have said this for years, I was a business owner as well as a boss my entire adult life. I would rather have someone disagree with me and get in my face with their own thoughts. I have no problem with this. I tell the story of an assistant I had for years where we would get in knock down drag out disagreements then go to lunch. A few employees asked me a few times weren't you two just arguing and I would say yea now it's over and we move on.
Liberals are not capable of this with there one tract talking point follower mind. Y'all do not think for yourself only what you are told. Then as you have done deny what was said and go right to attack like calling a post gibberish, that is a liberal tactic, it was very clear what was said but YOU were told to deny and divert. Or there is always the famous go to and BLAME Bush. Same ole same ole!

I asked sincerely for clarification and got derision instead.  What do you expect? I expected the derision because that's pretty much all the conservatives got anymore.

Suck it up and be an adult about it or just keep lashing out and whining like sniveling children when confronted by differing opinions.

Is this how you seek to persuade others to your ideals?  Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 11:47:50 AM
Damn Starnger. A healthcare worker as well.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 11:50:08 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 11:47:50 AM
Damn Starnger. A healthcare worker as well.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

We need all your guns to sell them to Mexico to pay me a bigger salary.  I mean, I mean, so we can afford healthcare for all!
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 11:50:08 AM
We need all your guns to sell them to Mexico to pay me a bigger salary.  I mean, I mean, so we can afford healthcare for all!

I believe Capt.Obvious is shopping at the wrong store. Most folks on this site are not interested in selling their guns to fund a socialized medical care scheme.  :smile:
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: Capt.Obvious on January 22, 2013, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 12:00:03 PM
I believe Capt.Obvious is shopping at the wrong store. Most folks on this site are not interested in selling their guns to fund a socialized medical care scheme.  :smile:

None of my friends have guns to take and sell though.  I'm shopping where the pickin's are fat!

Heh.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: The Stranger on January 22, 2013, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 22, 2013, 11:47:50 AM
Damn Starnger. A healthcare worker as well.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I noticed that and had to laugh.
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: walkstall on January 22, 2013, 01:56:53 PM
Quote from: The Stranger on January 22, 2013, 12:50:30 PM
I noticed that and had to laugh.

Every board I have been on, there has been a liberal paramedic troll.   

I think it a requirement now.  :lol:
Title: Re: Will You Let Him Manipulate YOU???
Post by: AndyJackson on January 22, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
lol, they have to be "medical professionals" in order to have the requisite feelings for Obamacare, gunshot wounds, children sick & dying from global warming, and so on.

There's a slew of them on every site.  A pioneer here though, gotta give credit where it's due.