Will The Republicans Ever Figure Out Why They Lost?

Started by SmilinJack, December 28, 2012, 02:29:50 PM

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kramarat


taxed

Quote from: Yawn on December 29, 2012, 04:58:09 PM
Yes. I was wrong. I need to learn to read more carefully I guess.

That's the only time we agree with libs -- when we're wrong!!!!  hahaha
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SmilinJack

Quote from: taxed on December 29, 2012, 04:36:46 PM
How?

I will give you a one word answer.....but it is all pervasive regarding the advantages supplied to our minorities.

Affirmative Action

Do you understand how that works?  Do you understand how big business is forced to hire minorities that are not even qualified over White Folk who are?

Do you understand a minority can get into prestigious universities even though they are not academically qualified?...that in fact....academically qualified Whites are pushed out into the street by these elite universities to make way for minorities?

Now if you agree to this then perhaps you should be in the democratic party under whose leadership....the infamous LBJ...all this was made possible.

kramarat

Quote from: Yawn on December 29, 2012, 04:58:09 PM
Yes. I was wrong. I need to learn to read more carefully I guess.

There is an exception...............

You can reprint, copy, or whatever you want, with any government publication.

I could run this entire text and it would not be in violation of any laws.

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap2.html

Just don't try to reprint pictures of money on other paper and use it as currency. They don't like that. :wink:

taxed

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 05:05:24 PM
I will give you a one word answer.....but it is all pervasive regarding the advantages supplied to our minorities.

Affirmative Action

Do you understand how that works?  Do you understand how big business is forced to hire minorities that are not even qualified over White Folk who are?

Do you understand a minority can get into prestigious universities even though they are not academically qualified?...that in fact....academically qualified Whites are pushed out into the street by these elite universities to make way for minorities?

Now if you agree to this then perhaps you should be in the democratic party under whose leadership....the infamous LBJ...all this was made possible.

And that helps the minority consumers of those businesses how?
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kramarat

Quote from: Yawn on December 29, 2012, 05:02:21 PM
I could have sworn they ruled the other way! But wikipedia says I'm wrong (not wronger)

No worries. I was just ribbin' ya. :smile:

Solar

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 04:27:11 PM
To really come to grips with that one would have to get into a type of discussion that really is not possible on message boards.....the differences between Whites and others simply cannot be discussed honestly.....It is taboo.

At first glance most would think that all working people are in the same boat...simply not true due to a number of factors....number one being the minority working class has a party....the democratic party.... that truly represents them....the white working class essentially is ignored and has little representation in Washington...remember the Revolutionary phrase....'no taxation without representation'....the white working class finds themselves in that boat once again. Whilst the minorities have more than adequate representation...in fact they are over represented.

Look at all the Social Programs designed for minorities ...Affirmative action etc.

Thus it is a fallacy to try and lump all working people into the same boat....it is not a level playing field.....though many republicans want to do that......thus the drive to reach out to the spanish and other minorities in hopes of attracting their votes......is a huge mistake.....the republicans cannot out liberal the liberals....the democrats have that vote sewed up....and the republicans need to understand that and quit pandering to the minorities and focus on who their real target should be....the White Working Class....the only group that would be willing--- if treated right to propel them to victory in the next election.

This link will give you some idea of what the White Working Class Wants..............

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/what-do-ohios-white-working-class-voters-want/article/feed/2033885]]http://washingtonexaminer.com/what-do-ohios-white-working-class-voters-want/article/feed/2033885]http://washingtonexaminer.com/what-do-ohios-white-working-class-voters-want/article/feed/2033885
Pure BS!
The private sector whether white, green blue black does not fall under affirmative action laws.
What you're describing is Govt employees, which is an entirely different subject.
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I think discussing demographics including race is appropriate when looking at the election results.  We just have to be careful to not suggest differences in voting patterns result from differences in values unless we define what those values are and can point to specific data that indicates there to be differences.  The point is not to be PC, but to be accurate.

This article in RealClearPolitics points to data suggesting, but not proving, why the GOP did not get enough White voters.

The link and a couple of snippets to stay within fair use:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/11/08/the_case_of_the_missing_white_voters_116106-2.html

So who were these whites and why did they stay home? My first instinct was that they might be conservative evangelicals turned off by Romney's Mormonism or moderate past. But the decline didn't seem to be concentrated in Southern states with high evangelical populations.

...

My sense is these voters were unhappy with Obama. But his negative ad campaign relentlessly emphasizing Romney's wealth and tenure at Bain Capital may have turned them off to the Republican nominee as well. The Romney campaign exacerbated this through the challenger's failure to articulate a clear, positive agenda to address these voters' fears, and self-inflicted wounds like the "47 percent" gaffe. Given a choice between two unpalatable options, these voters simply stayed home.

...

But in terms of interpreting elections, and analyzing the future, the substantial drop-off in the white vote is a significant data point.

SmilinJack

Quote from: Solar on December 29, 2012, 05:14:18 PM
Pure BS!
The private sector whether white, green blue black does not fall under affirmative action laws.
What you're describing is Govt employees, which is an entirely different subject.

Read and weep>>>>>>>http://eeoguidance.com/eeoguidance/which_eeo_laws_apply.asp



SmilinJack

The Case Against Affirmative Action>>>>http://www.csus.edu/indiv/g/gaskilld/business_computer_ethics/the%20case%20against%20affirmative%20action.htm


this should be enough to convince even the most liberal republican that affirmative action needs to go.

SmilinJack

Quote from: USAPatriot on December 29, 2012, 05:18:28 PM
I think discussing demographics including race is appropriate when looking at the election results.  We just have to be careful to not suggest differences in voting patterns result from differences in values unless we define what those values are and can point to specific data that indicates there to be differences.  The point is not to be PC, but to be accurate.

This article in RealClearPolitics points to data suggesting, but not proving, why the GOP did not get enough White voters.

The link and a couple of snippets to stay within fair use:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/11/08/the_case_of_the_missing_white_voters_116106-2.html

So who were these whites and why did they stay home? My first instinct was that they might be conservative evangelicals turned off by Romney's Mormonism or moderate past. But the decline didn't seem to be concentrated in Southern states with high evangelical populations.

...

My sense is these voters were unhappy with Obama. But his negative ad campaign relentlessly emphasizing Romney's wealth and tenure at Bain Capital may have turned them off to the Republican nominee as well. The Romney campaign exacerbated this through the challenger's failure to articulate a clear, positive agenda to address these voters' fears, and self-inflicted wounds like the "47 percent" gaffe. Given a choice between two unpalatable options, these voters simply stayed home.

...

But in terms of interpreting elections, and analyzing the future, the substantial drop-off in the white vote is a significant data point.


Good information but an additional fact to consider is that a lot of the White Working Class voted voted for Obama...especially in the crucial state of Ohio....thus it was not just a matter of the whites who stayed home rather than voted.

SmilinJack

Quote from: taxed on December 29, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
And that helps the minority consumers of those businesses how?

Who said it did....certainly not me.