Will The Republicans Ever Figure Out Why They Lost?

Started by SmilinJack, December 28, 2012, 02:29:50 PM

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Solar

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 03:17:38 PM
If you are asking me.....then you must not be reading most of my posts....I thought I made it very clear that I am diametrically opposed to that.

In post #23 I explicitly spelled out that the Key to the republicans gaining the white house is for them is to win over the great majority of the White Working Class.

To do this White Working Class values and goals must be the center piece of any future republican platform.

Now I doubt that will happen ...but it remains to be seen....a lot of forces at play withink the republican party....who wins out remains to be seen.

I really think the White Working Class will most likely need to form their own party if they really want any representation in Washington.
Define White Working Class values, as opposed to working class values.
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walkstall

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 02:26:06 PM
When the names are listed above an article ----most I think would understand that means they wrote the  article....well at least I see what confused you.

How long have you been a moderator?


Please note that taxed is in red.  He is NOT a moderator, he is a Admin just one of two Admin on CPF.     They are the nice ones, it that Rooster you have to look out for.   :popcorn:
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kramarat

Quote from: walkstall on December 29, 2012, 03:58:40 PM

Please note that taxed is in red.  He is NOT a moderator, he is a Admin just one of two Admin on CPF.     They are the nice ones, it that Rooster you have to look out for.   :popcorn:

SmilinJack doesn't understand copyright law........................in the least.

Reprinting or posting full original works, requires permission from the people that created it. I just thought I'd throw that out. Maybe Jack will stop digging his own hole.

Here's a primer for you Jack. Don't feel bad.................your misunderstanding of the law is quite common.

http://www.companynewsletters.com/copyright.htm

SmilinJack

Quote from: Solar on December 29, 2012, 03:23:38 PM
Define White Working Class values, as opposed to working class values.

To really come to grips with that one would have to get into a type of discussion that really is not possible on message boards.....the differences between Whites and others simply cannot be discussed honestly.....It is taboo.

At first glance most would think that all working people are in the same boat...simply not true due to a number of factors....number one being the minority working class has a party....the democratic party.... that truly represents them....the white working class essentially is ignored and has little representation in Washington...remember the Revolutionary phrase....'no taxation without representation'....the white working class finds themselves in that boat once again. Whilst the minorities have more than adequate representation...in fact they are over represented.

Look at all the Social Programs designed for minorities ...Affirmative action etc.

Thus it is a fallacy to try and lump all working people into the same boat....it is not a level playing field.....though many republicans want to do that......thus the drive to reach out to the spanish and other minorities in hopes of attracting their votes......is a huge mistake.....the republicans cannot out liberal the liberals....the democrats have that vote sewed up....and the republicans need to understand that and quit pandering to the minorities and focus on who their real target should be....the White Working Class....the only group that would be willing--- if treated right to propel them to victory in the next election.

This link will give you some idea of what the White Working Class Wants..............

[url]http://washingtonexaminer.com/what-do-ohios-white-working-class-voters-want/article/feed/2033885]http://washingtonexaminer.com/what-do-ohios-white-working-class-voters-want/article/feed/2033885

taxed

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 04:27:11 PM
.number one being the minority working class has a party....the democratic party.... that truly represents them...

How?
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SmilinJack

Quote from: kramarat on December 29, 2012, 04:25:19 PM
SmilinJack doesn't understand copyright law........................in the least.

Reprinting or posting full original works, requires permission from the people that created it. I just thought I'd throw that out. Maybe Jack will stop digging his own hole.

Here's a primer for you Jack. Don't feel bad.................your misunderstanding of the law is quite common.

http://www.companynewsletters.com/copyright.htm

I am not a copywright lawyer...you may be correct or you may not be...I admit I do not know for sure....but I have been told the following by a very knoledgable person........"
mikecreed57

Professor (1,287)


NO it's not illega to copy and paste from the internetl, thats the way it is when someone opens their own door and steps into the world wide web, its fair use, and to copy and paste for the purpose of sharing imformation is perfectly legal, it's how knowledge is gained

Yawn

Your links will not work if you keep putting them inside the url tag the way you're doing it. I showed you the way it works.  You can also simply paste the url and NOTHING else. It will automatically be displayed as a working link if you simply paste the link.

Again, the right way to use the url tag is...


[url=http://www.google.com]Google[/url]

This will turn the word Google to a link to Google

kramarat

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 04:39:49 PM
I am not a copywright lawyer...you may be correct or you may not be...I admit I do not know for sure....but I have been told the following by a very knoledgable person........"
mikecreed57

Professor (1,287)


NO it's not illega to copy and paste from the internetl, that's the way it is when someone opens their own door and steps into the world wide web, its fair use, and to copy and paste for the purpose of sharing imformation is perfectly legal, it's how knowledge is gained

Wrong. And please install and put to use a spell checker. I don't feel like deciphering gibberish.

taxed

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 04:39:49 PM
I am not a copywright lawyer...you may be correct or you may not be...I admit I do not know for sure....but I have been told the following by a very knoledgable person........"
mikecreed57

Professor (1,287)


NO it's not illega to copy and paste from the internetl, thats the way it is when someone opens their own door and steps into the world wide web, its fair use, and to copy and paste for the purpose of sharing imformation is perfectly legal, it's how knowledge is gained

I see we have a stubborn one.
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Yawn

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Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 04:39:49 PM
I am not a copywright lawyer...you may be correct or you may not be...I admit I do not know for sure....but I have been told the following by a very knoledgable person........"
mikecreed57

Professor (1,287)


NO it's not illega to copy and paste from the internetl, thats the way it is when someone opens their own door and steps into the world wide web, its fair use, and to copy and paste for the purpose of sharing imformation is perfectly legal, it's how knowledge is gained

I actually agree with you. There was a lawsuit against the free republic years ago over this issue and it was determined that you can post an article FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.  If I am wrong, explain how.

QuoteL.A. Times v. Free Republic is a 1998 United States district court copyright law case. Several newspapers sued the Internet forum Free Republic for allowing its users to repost the full text of copyrighted newspaper articles, asserting that this constituted copyright infringement. Free Republic claimed that they were not liable under the doctrine of fair use and the First Amendment guarantee of freedom of speech. The federal courts ruled in favor of the newspapers.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.A._Times_v._Free_Republic

Still, it is against the rules HERE, and can cause unnecessary problems, so it would be best (and is REQUIRED) to obey this simple rule.  If you've been told once, it should be enough.

EDIT:
Oops! I was wrong. I THOUGHT they ruled in favor of the Free Republic!  :blushing:

SmilinJack

Quote from: Yawn on December 29, 2012, 04:49:01 PM
I actually agree with you. There was a lawsuit against the free republic years ago over this issue and it was determined that you can post an article FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.  If I am wrong, explain how.

Still, it is against the rules HERE, so it would be best (and is REQUIRED) to obey this simple rule.  If you've been told once, it should be enough.

Thank you

taxed

Quote from: Yawn on December 29, 2012, 04:49:01 PM
I actually agree with you. There was a lawsuit against the free republic years ago over this issue and it was determined that you can post an article FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.  If I am wrong, explain how.

Still, it is against the rules HERE, so it would be best (and is REQUIRED) to obey this simple rule.  If you've been told once, it should be enough.

No.  The entire article -- even if referenced -- is a copyright violation and falls outside the bounds of Fair Use.  Copying a snippet of the article for the purpose of discussion is OK, which is allowed.  Copying the entire piece is a violation.
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kramarat

Quote from: Yawn on December 29, 2012, 04:49:01 PM
I actually agree with you. There was a lawsuit against the free republic years ago over this issue and it was determined that you can post an article FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.  If I am wrong, explain how.

Still, it is against the rules HERE, so it would be best (and is REQUIRED) to obey this simple rule.  If you've been told once, it should be enough.

It's against the rules everywhere. It's not just the person doing the reprinting, it's the owners of the site that can be held liable.

Did you read my link? Snips of up to three paragraphs are alright.

Reprinting articles

Let's start with the most common way newsletter editors infringe upon a copyright — illegally reprinting articles from another source (publication, Web site, etc.). This happens all the time because of a popular misconception: Some editors mistakenly believe it's OK to reprint an article from another source without permission, as long as they credit the original source of the article.

This belief is absolutely untrue. The only way you can legally reprint a copyrighted article is to get permission (preferably written) from the publication in which it first appeared. In some cases, you many even have to get permission from the article's author, depending on who owns the rights to the story.


Bassman

One of the biggest problems, at least from my perspective, is that the GOP has been unwilling to get in the dirt with the Democrats and fight bare knuckle with them for a long time.  Their attempts to "hold the higher ground" have led to this.  We need Republicans to be able to bettle the Democrats head-on and take names later.
There are only two kinds of people that vote Democrat anymore.  Die hard Liberal Communists and Morons.

Yawn

Quote from: taxed on December 29, 2012, 04:55:32 PM
No.  The entire article -- even if referenced -- is a copyright violation and falls outside the bounds of Fair Use.  Copying a snippet of the article for the purpose of discussion is OK, which is allowed.  Copying the entire piece is a violation.

Yes. I was wrong. I need to learn to read more carefully I guess.