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Title: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 02, 2013, 06:46:37 AM
Will he ride off into the sunset in 2016 or will he find some away to run for a third term.  I don't know how but I am curious as to what people think.

Recently we have all these drills by the military in populated areas,  his appointees are dubious at best as well.  The list goes on.  I don't need to enumerate them since those here are well informed on what's going on.

So as O'Reilly likes to say, "what say you?"
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Bronx on February 02, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
I say no. Look how much he has aged in the last 4 yrs and he had both the House and Senate for 2 yrs with the media on his side for all 4 yrs. Just think how much we will age the next 4 yrs. A 3rd term will make him look like Yoda from Star Wars. The aging process will kick his ass all over the place.

That's just one reason, never mind the other reasons.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 02, 2013, 08:17:06 AM
Quote from: Bronx on February 02, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
I say no. Look how much he has aged in the last 4 yrs and he had both the House and Senate for 2 yrs with the media on his side for all 4 yrs. Just think how much we will age the next 4 yrs. A 3rd term will make him look like Yoda from Star Wars. The aging process will kick his ass all over the place.

That's just one reason, never mind the other reasons.


He's still a relatively young person...and he's power hungry.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Hindes204 on February 02, 2013, 08:34:16 AM
Not going to happen. Hillary wants her turn.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 02, 2013, 08:38:01 AM
Quote from: Hindes204 on February 02, 2013, 08:34:16 AM
Not going to happen. Hillary wants her turn.

Probably right...8 more years of the same.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Charliemyboy on February 02, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
I believe Obama is positioning himself to become president for life.  Military drills in populated areas are for one purpose only; to enable him to institute martial law. I think there is a real possibility that a civil uprising will be started by his minions on some pretext or other and he will be in a position to declare martial law, suspend habeas corpus and complete his takeover of the the government.  Our only hope is that the military will disobey his orders, and I believe that to be a slim hope, indeed.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: kramarat on February 02, 2013, 09:36:27 AM
I'm repeating myself, but I still think that Obama has his sight's on getting himself in a position of power, in the global government that the UN is quietly setting up.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 02, 2013, 09:37:33 AM
Quote from: Charliemyboy on February 02, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
I believe Obama is positioning himself to become president for life.  Military drills in populated areas are for one purpose only; to enable him to institute martial law. I think there is a real possibility that a civil uprising will be started by his minions on some pretext or other and he will be in a position to declare martial law, suspend habeas corpus and complete his takeover of the the government.  Our only hope is that the military will disobey his orders, and I believe that to be a slim hope, indeed.


I think you're right.  The military drills are key.  Sure, there will be those that will say they have always taken place but I would add never at the levels they we've seen recently.   Like I said earlier, Obama is chipping away ever so slowly and for the most part under the radar.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
Quote from: kramarat on February 02, 2013, 09:36:27 AM
I'm repeating myself, but I still think that Obama has his sight's on getting himself in a position of power, in the global government that the UN is quietly setting up.
Yep, which is why he is trying to weaken us from the roots up.
A weak America, makes for a stronger UN.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: kramarat on February 02, 2013, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 02, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
Yep, which is why he is trying to weaken us from the roots up.
A weak America, makes for a stronger UN.

We are also signing treaties that are in conflict with our constitution. Once international law is recognized as "THE" law, it will trump the constitution.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2013, 10:36:57 AM
Quote from: kramarat on February 02, 2013, 10:20:19 AM
We are also signing treaties that are in conflict with our constitution. Once international law is recognized as "THE" law, it will trump the constitution.
It's just an outdated document drawn up by old white guys anyway, not once considering race as a factor, or special needs of one group over another.
Lets just throw it out and let the UN draw up one.

Of course it was pure sarcasm, but what if that was actually presented to the left as an option.
Would it give them pause and make them think, instead of a knee jerk reaction of "It's a Living Document" that needs changed?
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: kramarat on February 02, 2013, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: Solar on February 02, 2013, 10:36:57 AM
It's just an outdated document drawn up by old white guys anyway, not once considering race as a factor, or special needs of one group over another.
Lets just throw it out and let the UN draw up one.

Of course it was pure sarcasm, but what if that was actually presented to the left as an option.
Would it give them pause and make them think, instead of a knee jerk reaction of "It's a Living Document" that needs changed?

There is a lot of crazy stuff out there, but I really think that it's in the works.

http://occupycorporatism.com/the-un-plan-to-remake-the-world-unveiled-at-rio-summit-2012/ (http://occupycorporatism.com/the-un-plan-to-remake-the-world-unveiled-at-rio-summit-2012/)
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 02, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
http://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/80698/massive-military-drills-civilian-areas (http://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/80698/massive-military-drills-civilian-areas)

http://lionsofliberty.com/2013/01/29/army-training-exercises-in-populated-areas-a-numbing-effect/ (http://lionsofliberty.com/2013/01/29/army-training-exercises-in-populated-areas-a-numbing-effect/)
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: kramarat on February 02, 2013, 11:25:30 AM
Quote from: Turks on February 02, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
http://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/80698/massive-military-drills-civilian-areas (http://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/80698/massive-military-drills-civilian-areas)

http://lionsofliberty.com/2013/01/29/army-training-exercises-in-populated-areas-a-numbing-effect/ (http://lionsofliberty.com/2013/01/29/army-training-exercises-in-populated-areas-a-numbing-effect/)

Yeah. Once they get us accustomed to these "drills", we'll never know what hit us when it's for real. :scared:
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 02, 2013, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: kramarat on February 02, 2013, 11:25:30 AM
Yeah. Once they get us accustomed to these "drills", we'll never know what hit us when it's for real. :scared:

Exactly and:

http://www2.wspa.com/news/2013/jan/31/ammo-shortage-drags-gun-control-debate-heats-ar-5490510/ (http://www2.wspa.com/news/2013/jan/31/ammo-shortage-drags-gun-control-debate-heats-ar-5490510/)
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: supsalemgr on February 02, 2013, 01:08:54 PM
Went to the local gun store and shooting range this morning with my wife and step-son. Being in WNC about 50 miles from the Spartanburg area we found similar situations. My wife was able to purchase some ammo for her gun. The store was busy. The range has nine shooting stations and we had to put our name on a list and had to wait about 15 minutes for a postion. BTW, all the patrons appeared to be good citizens and not crazed loons as the libs would like to portray us.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: hoosier on February 02, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
Year after year, same conspiracy theory with different players. I remember when Clinton was gonna install himself as "supreme leader" and do this that and the other thing. Don't you guys get tired living with all thesesame predictions that prove to be nothing but  boredom and imagination run wild?   Obama will not be president after 2016 because his term limit will be up and that will be that. Do you guys really think this great land of so many would allow someone to set themselvea up as dictator? You think the military would just turn on its citizins because of some ones power trip?  The only civil war that will be happening is in the thoughts of those who refuse to uncloud their minds with hate for enough time to see that their hatered is what is really tearing apart the fabric of society. Most who dont will be lucky not to find themselves fighting their own civil war with a child hostage in their bunker.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 02, 2013, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: hoosier on February 02, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
Year after year, same conspiracy theory with different players. I remember when Clinton was gonna install himself as "supreme leader" and do this that and the other thing. Don't you guys get tired living with all thesesame predictions that prove to be nothing but  boredom and imagination run wild?   Obama will not be president after 2016 because his term limit will be up and that will be that. Do you guys really think this great land of so many would allow someone to set themselvea up as dictator? You think the military would just turn on its citizins because of some ones power trip?  The only civil war that will be happening is in the thoughts of those who refuse to uncloud their minds with hate for enough time to see that their hatered is what is really tearing apart the fabric of society. Most who dont will be lucky not to find themselves fighting their own civil war with a child hostage in their bunker.

You were asked a question not for a condescending lecture.   :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: rich_t on February 02, 2013, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: hoosier on February 02, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
Year after year, same conspiracy theory with different players. I remember when Clinton was gonna install himself as "supreme leader" and do this that and the other thing. Don't you guys get tired living with all thesesame predictions that prove to be nothing but  boredom and imagination run wild?   Obama will not be president after 2016 because his term limit will be up and that will be that. Do you guys really think this great land of so many would allow someone to set themselvea up as dictator? You think the military would just turn on its citizins because of some ones power trip?  The only civil war that will be happening is in the thoughts of those who refuse to uncloud their minds with hate for enough time to see that their hatered is what is really tearing apart the fabric of society. Most who dont will be lucky not to find themselves fighting their own civil war with a child hostage in their bunker.

Bingo.  We have a winner.

I too recall the hype about Clinton finding some reason to declare Martial Law to stay in power.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: rich_t on February 02, 2013, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 02, 2013, 06:46:37 AM
Will he ride off into the sunset in 2016 or will he find some away to run for a third term.  I don't know how but I am curious as to what people think.

Recently we have all these drills by the military in populated areas,  his appointees are dubious at best as well.  The list goes on.  I don't need to enumerate them since those here are well informed on what's going on.

So as O'Reilly likes to say, "what say you?"

I say that he's gone once his current term is up. 
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 02, 2013, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: rich_t on February 02, 2013, 03:41:46 PM
I say that he's gone once his current term is up.

I agree.  Others may not.  That's why the question was asked.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: rich_t on February 02, 2013, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 02, 2013, 03:44:01 PM
I agree.  Others may not.  That's why the question was asked.

I suspect that most of us agree that Obama pretty much ignores the Constitution.

But he isn't going to get away with ignoring term limits.

As for those that think he will find some reason to stay in power after 2016....  I've heard it all before and I ain't buying it.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Charliemyboy on February 02, 2013, 05:17:41 PM
OK guys.  Just remember who told you.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: rich_t on February 02, 2013, 05:19:46 PM
Quote from: Charliemyboy on February 02, 2013, 05:17:41 PM
OK guys.  Just remember who told you.

I'm not worried about it.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Phillip on February 02, 2013, 11:13:33 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 02, 2013, 03:32:40 PM
You were asked a question not for a condescending lecture.   :thumbdown:


A lecture that was dead-on. I remember when Bush II was going to maintain power via martial law according to Alex Jone's website.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Solar on February 03, 2013, 07:46:07 AM
Quote from: Phillip on February 02, 2013, 11:13:33 PM

A lecture that was dead-on. I remember when Bush II was going to maintain power via martial law according to Alex Jone's website.  :laugh:
I remember that quite well, the left was blocking all attempts to allow drilling for oil, bush considered the Martial law act as a way of gaining control over the issue, but out of fairness, it wasn't him proposing it.
He was using it as a threat in hopes of getting a concession from the Dims, he didn't and that was the end of it.

I wouldn't put to much credence in AJ, he sees the end of the world under every bed.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: quiller on February 03, 2013, 09:42:19 AM
Quote from: Hindes204 on February 02, 2013, 08:34:16 AM
Not going to happen. Hillary wants her turn.

And her party deliberately screwed her out of their nomination in 2004 by the way delegates were reassigned in both Florida and Michigan. They handed it to a nobody with APPARENTLY no legislative record, just identically as they'd done for John Kerry, and in both cases further digging revealed too much baggage. The difference lay in this generation's media being hard-leftists, eager to serve up reelection for a total fraud and failure.

The lamestream media will not play nice with Hillary in 2016. They will (with some validity) pay tribute to Joe Biden having eight years of OJT, unlike Shrill's one turn as SOS.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: kramarat on February 03, 2013, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: Turks on February 02, 2013, 03:44:01 PM
I agree.  Others may not.  That's why the question was asked.

It won't matter. Obama is just the current puppet face on a sweeping agenda. One that is being won. :sad:
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:27:52 AM
New World Order or NWO refers to the emergence of a totalitarian one-world government.

Think that's not what's going on?  Think again...perhaps not in some of our lifetimes but sooner than one thinks.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: kramarat on February 03, 2013, 12:47:37 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:27:52 AM
New World Order or NWO refers to the emergence of a totalitarian one-world government.

Think that's not what's going on?  Think again...perhaps not in some of our lifetimes but sooner than one thinks.

Yes it is.

I got drunk last night, and I think I may have figured out how it will be implemented. It scares me a little.

It will be labeled as a restart button. Not only a button that will erase our past mistakes, but all international debt will be forgiven...............including the $20 trillion that Obama is bringing us. Who would argue against that?

A beautiful planet of peace, shared prosperity, respect for all....................and one totalitarian regime to make sure that we all follow the rules. :scared:
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: rich_t on February 03, 2013, 01:27:12 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 03, 2013, 11:27:52 AM
New World Order or NWO refers to the emergence of a totalitarian one-world government.

Think that's not what's going on?  Think again...perhaps not in some of our lifetimes but sooner than one thinks.

Agenda 21.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: BILLY Defiant on February 03, 2013, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 02, 2013, 06:46:37 AM
Will he ride off into the sunset in 2016 or will he find some away to run for a third term.  I don't know how but I am curious as to what people think.

Recently we have all these drills by the military in populated areas,  his appointees are dubious at best as well.  The list goes on.  I don't need to enumerate them since those here are well informed on what's going on.

So as O'Reilly likes to say, "what say you?"

The Scumbag will find a way to extend his Presidency...Possibly by running his wife Moochelle...

Billy
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: rich_t on February 03, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on February 03, 2013, 02:57:42 PM
The Scumbag will find a way to extend his Presidency...Possibly by running his wife Moochelle...

Billy

Not going to happen.

Some folks were saying the same about Bill Clinton and Bush.

It's nothing more than baseless paranoia in my opinion.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Balto on February 03, 2013, 08:12:47 PM
If Hilary runs (and wins) this country will be sunk. Her carelessness for welfare of just four innocent souls lost with the "What difference does it make?" comment foretells a loss of power in our military. Michelle doesnt have the guts to run for president, but people would only vote for her because "Obama" is stamped as her last name. We never saw Barbara Bush or Nancy Reagan run for president, how would there be a difference now? But then again there are voters like one of my friends who says he voted for Obama because he had a cool name.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: raptor5618 on February 04, 2013, 11:25:57 AM
While it might have been tossed about in the past,  I do not recall and do not think that either Clinton or Bush acted in ways that were so absolutely wrong for the country.  With Obama it seems like the worst possible option is the one always selected.  While I do not believe that he will be here beyond the next 4 years, I do believe that it is very possible for this country to go through a cataclysmic problem in the next 4 years which I think has to be one of the prerequisites to installing martial law.  Of the 3 most recent presidents I think that the theory is more plausible under Obama than the other two. 
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: Turks on February 04, 2013, 11:42:06 AM
Biden's 'longtime friend' says he's open to 2016 bid 'because Hillary might not run'

Vice President Joe Biden is widely believed to be gearing up for another run at the presidency in 2016. But standing in Biden's way could be another familiar face: Hillary Clinton.

So could Biden decide to sit it out if Clinton enters the fray?


http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/bidens-longtime-friend-says-hes-open-to-2016-bid-because-hillary-might-not-run/#ixzz2JxegzF1T (http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/bidens-longtime-friend-says-hes-open-to-2016-bid-because-hillary-might-not-run/#ixzz2JxegzF1T)
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: supsalemgr on February 04, 2013, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: raptor5618 on February 04, 2013, 11:25:57 AM
While it might have been tossed about in the past,  I do not recall and do not think that either Clinton or Bush acted in ways that were so absolutely wrong for the country.  With Obama it seems like the worst possible option is the one always selected.  While I do not believe that he will be here beyond the next 4 years, I do believe that it is very possible for this country to go through a cataclysmic problem in the next 4 years which I think has to be one of the prerequisites to installing martial law.  Of the 3 most recent presidents I think that the theory is more plausible under Obama than the other two.

I also would not put it past Obama to try something like martial law due to his narcicissm. However, I have enough confidence in our country that it would not be accepted. I am alo of the opinion the military would not support him if he does something off the wall.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: pisskop on February 04, 2013, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: Turks on February 04, 2013, 11:42:06 AM
Biden's 'longtime friend' says he's open to 2016 bid 'because Hillary might not run'

Vice President Joe Biden is widely believed to be gearing up for another run at the presidency in 2016. But standing in Biden's way could be another familiar face: Hillary Clinton.

So could Biden decide to sit it out if Clinton enters the fray?


http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/bidens-longtime-friend-says-hes-open-to-2016-bid-because-hillary-might-not-run/#ixzz2JxegzF1T (http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/bidens-longtime-friend-says-hes-open-to-2016-bid-because-hillary-might-not-run/#ixzz2JxegzF1T)


I don't think Biden would have what it takes to be a serious canidate.  He would be ripped up.  I personally believe he's a buffon, and a tool.
Title: Re: Will Obama Go Quietly?
Post by: raptor5618 on February 04, 2013, 01:37:31 PM
Biden should have no chance but this country seems to like incompetence as they reelected Obama so who knows.   I do not think that Obama would force martial law but I do see a good possibility that events could get really bad where martial law might actually be a reasonable option.  If they do nothing to stop the debt from rising at the same pace and we get downgraded it is possible that our cost of money rises, possibly substantially then our debt would be out of control   Obama care is going to be a huge addition to the debt, as it already has issues and we are in the good part.  I could see our financial system unraveling pretty quickly which would lead to big problems pretty quickly.  People stop getting their free money and jobs become harder to get there is sure to be some kind of civil unrest.   

I absolutely do not see Obama doing anything to dampen the rising debt and sadly I do not think the House has its heart into it either.  With no one looking to cut spending our rising debt could really get out of control.  As the debt goes up the amount of interest increases if the rate of interest goes up the debt climbs even faster.  Not a very good loop.  Government reacts by printing more money, inflation is off and running and well everything just goes to crap because there are very few options they have left in the bag.