I know, if you listen to the MSM, it would appear that he's a shoe in, but is he really?

Heres what I think will happen, he will declare victory in his war on American culture "Fundamentally hanging America".
The truth is, his little experiment in Marxism was a complete and unmitigated failure, and the left knows it.

So I say watch for the spin to begin this coming Summer, that Husein feels his work is complete and can hang up his scepter and focus on the UN as his next conquest.

The "Hillary Express" is going to run Obama over.

Quote from: AmericanFlyer on November 19, 2010, 09:04:50 AM
The "Hillary Express" is going to run Obama over.

I'm not sure exchanging a Marxist idiot for a Marxist bee-yotch is a very big improvement. :P

I think the recent election shows pretty clearly that we can be successful running against the Obama-Pelosi-Reid triad. It's only within the confines of DC that people are unable to see the nationwide disdain for those three.

It's a telling commentary on the state of the Democrats to note that the best thing Hillary's got going for her is Bill, and he's a proven, world-renowned lying philanderer. (You can always tell when Willie's lying though... His lips move.)

Oh, he'll definitely run. His monumental ego won't let him do anything else. But while he's got an ideological streak a mile wide in him he'll dump any lefties who get in the way of him hanging onto office just as he dumped any lefties who stood in his way on his initial run.

My prediction is that on selected issues he'll move aggressively to the right.

He's already angered the teacher's unions and not by accident. Obama knows that educational alternatives are a rising issue among black voters and that's splitting the left. The teacher's unions and their allies are the past and while they're still powerful it's the black vote that the future of the Democratic party depends. So the teacher's unions go under the  bus.

That's obviously not a very shaky prediction since Obama's already angered the teacher's unions but I will go out on a limb with my next prediction - the environmental movement will collapse and Obama will turn his back on it embracing nuclear power wholeheartedly. He'll go dead-silent on the rest of the environmentalist agenda - electric cars, ethanol subsidies, carbon emissions and alternative power subsidies - but he'll put a big bear-hug on the idea of nuclear power.

Quote from: tbone0106 on November 19, 2010, 09:15:56 AM
I'm not sure exchanging a Marxist idiot for a Marxist bee-yotch is a very big improvement. :P

I think the recent election shows pretty clearly that we can be successful running against the Obama-Pelosi-Reid triad. It's only within the confines of DC that people are unable to see the nationwide disdain for those three.

It's a telling commentary on the state of the Democrats to note that the best thing Hillary's got going for her is Bill, and he's a proven, world-renowned lying philanderer. (You can always tell when Willie's lying though... His lips move.)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You crack me up sometimes Tbone. 8)

Quote from: arpad on November 19, 2010, 09:20:23 AM
Oh, he'll definitely run. His monumental ego won't let him do anything else. But while he's got an ideological streak a mile wide in him he'll dump any lefties who get in the way of him hanging onto office just as he dumped any lefties who stood in his way on his initial run.

My prediction is that on selected issues he'll move aggressively to the right.

He's already angered the teacher's unions and not by accident. Obama knows that educational alternatives are a rising issue among black voters and that's splitting the left. The teacher's unions and their allies are the past and while they're still powerful it's the black vote that the future of the Democratic party depends. So the teacher's unions go under the  bus.

That's obviously not a very shaky prediction since Obama's already angered the teacher's unions but I will go out on a limb with my next prediction - the environmental movement will collapse and Obama will turn his back on it embracing nuclear power wholeheartedly. He'll go dead-silent on the rest of the environmentalist agenda - electric cars, ethanol subsidies, carbon emissions and alternative power subsidies - but he'll put a big bear-hug on the idea of nuclear power.

Though I agree the enviro movement is dying, I don't see him embracing nuke energy.
He definitely will allow some plants to be built, but only because his green energy BS was a complete failure.

Quote from: arpad on November 19, 2010, 09:20:23 AM
My prediction is that on selected issues he'll move aggressively to the right.

He's already angered the teacher's unions and not by accident. Obama knows that educational alternatives are a rising issue among black voters and that's splitting the left. The teacher's unions and their allies are the past and while they're still powerful it's the black vote that the future of the Democratic party depends. So the teacher's unions go under the  bus.

That's obviously not a very shaky prediction since Obama's already angered the teacher's unions but I will go out on a limb with my next prediction - the environmental movement will collapse and Obama will turn his back on it embracing nuclear power wholeheartedly. He'll go dead-silent on the rest of the environmentalist agenda - electric cars, ethanol subsidies, carbon emissions and alternative power subsidies - but he'll put a big bear-hug on the idea of nuclear power.

One knows how you get about Michigan education. One fears to enter your arena, mindful of rowing a leaky dinghy, against your flank-speed super-tanker. One decides, one good beating a day is probably good for me, and I'd sooner take it from a fellow prisoner of the Grandholm Gang.  ;D

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Sorry, but I think Obama will ask himself one important question. Who gave me more money, the unions or the PTO?

Mom's going under that bus before Obama will cut off such a huge factor in Democrat fundraising. He will figure, I lied to the moms to get their votes, but without the money I can't even reach anyone to REPLACE them, to get back in.

I'm laying in tourniquets and other medicinals. You'll probably clarify this so simply I'll need the help in mending, but right now I see money as what Obama needs if he expects to survive any primary. Please clarify why you think Obama has caused a rift he cannot mend by throwing someone ELSE under the back wheels.

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As for nuke power, I'm not optimistic he'd embrace it, after working so diligently to close Yucca Mountain. (And WHOEVER wins must address that one, as the existing plants already are stuck with waste they cannot get rid of, without Yucca.)

I can see him cynically giving a go-ahead for nuke-expansion, on the assumption he will be reelected --- and can then kill it all again, at great cost to his favorite victims.

   Obama is on the hotseat...if he doesnt go more to the mid..america wont be happy...if he does go to the mid Soros his puppeteer will be unhappy.
   
    If obama is still showing weakness a year from now...soros and the scumbag left will have primary challenges to obama...soros does not want the house and WH GOP

The Jihadist's work is never done.  He will run again.

Of course he'll run...and I personally beleive he will win...due to fixing the vote no doubt.


Billy

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on November 19, 2010, 04:32:36 PM
Of course he'll run...and I personally beleive he will win...due to fixing the vote no doubt.


Billy

If Hillary Rodham Clinton runs old thunder thighs will cover her ass this time.
With Bill and o b screwing her she will bring out all her guns if she runs.

I never said that Hillary was an IMPROVEMENT over Obama.  I just said that she will run AGAINST Obama, and I believe that she will win the nomination.

Obama already embraced nuke power plants during the '08 Presidential campaign.  He stated many times that he was in favor of building more nuke power plants.  Of course, that was all campaign blather, and the Kenyan has no intention of allowing nuke power plants to be built during his watch.

Yucca Mountain has been a political football for many, many years.  It SHOULD have been opened many years ago, but the enviro-idiots and the NIMBY crowd have cried enough to keep it closed. 

Nuke plants are running out of places to send even their low-level radwaste.  They are already storing spent fuel bundles on-site, which is really no big deal.  Spent fuel pools are not difficult to build, and now dry storage technology is getting better and better.

No argument about the teacher's union money Quiller but the die's been cast. Obama's looked at the situation and made his choice and his choice is to hang onto the black vote and cut the teacher's unions loose.

He made that choice before the election and even before the primary. I ought to try to find it but there's a video floating around of Obama addressing an NEA shindig. The teachers are all thrilled to pieces of course but the enthusiastic applause comes to a halt pretty quickly and when Obama mentions charters and teacher accountability there's actually a scattering "boos".

In retrospect it's clear that he wasn't just floating a trial balloon but throwing down the gauntlet. He was letting the unions know that they were going to have to deal with him on his terms because he had another constituency he was making a play for and the teachers could either accept the scraps from his table or not but they weren't doing the dictating.

And look at what's happened. Race To The Top is much worse, from the unions point of view, then No Child Left Behind ever was but RTTT may be even more Obama's political handiwork then Obamacare. Then there's his Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan. He's constantly running around the country talking up vouchers and charters and standards and accountability. The unions hate him desperately even to the point of going public with the announcement that Obama had to get rid of Duncan or face the consequences. Evidently, the consequences aren't anywhere near as awful as the teacher's unions thought because Duncan's still running around talking up everything that gives the teacher's unions a toothache.

My prediction about Obama's interest in nuclear power's more of a SWAG I'll admit. He's got a science advisor who's a bit of a dipshyt but he's rock solid on the need for nuclear power. That tells me Obama sees nuclear power as politically important and pony he can tie his wagon too. The prediction that he'll dump the entire greenie-weenie agenda's more wishful thinking but I think the collapse of the environmentalist cause is underestimated and when the dust of this last election settles a bit more one of the secondary casualties will be the enviro-left.

Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2010, 09:00:03 AM
"Fundamentally hanging America".

Slip, or on purpose? Either way, it's true.

Quote from: Harry on November 20, 2010, 01:06:56 AM
Slip, or on purpose? Either way, it's true.

Definitely on purpose.
Hope and change was about his hope to change America into his Marxist dream.