Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 09, 2020, 01:39:29 PM
Republic - People's Cause (Latin)

Democracy - Popular Affairs (Greek)

I understand your indignation, gentlemen, but both of these terms mean the same concept.

Simply in our understanding, these concepts were divided into two different political institutions.

Well, if we all hate the word "democracy" so much, then another term can be applied - "Universal suffrage based on the Constitution of the country."

Democracy is majority rule. A Republic is not majority rule, it is a system of laws where the people elect Representatives.
Once a Democracy loses the meaning of majority rules, it is no longer a democracy, it is a bastardized version of said system.

Just because people vote, in no way equates to democracy! Is NK, China, Cuba etc, are they democracies, they too vote?

And, by the way, I am the first opponent of universal suffrage.

Citizens by birth or naturalized citizens who have received this right after 25 years of legal residence in the country, over 27 years of age, who have a family, at least 2 children, real property and regularly pay taxes, have the right to elect their government.

Like this, or something like this.

Quote from: Solar on December 09, 2020, 04:21:43 PM
Just because people vote, in no way equates to democracy! Is NK, China, Cuba etc, are they democracies, they too vote?

Yes, they vote. But nobody is interested in how they vote and for whom. That is how they voted in the USSR. There was one surname in the bulletin.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 09, 2020, 04:36:57 PM
Yes, they vote. But nobody is interested in how they vote and for whom. That is how they voted in the USSR. There was one surname in the bulletin.

I've no doubt you are well versed in the USSR system, but here, most of us learned what set the US apart from the rest of the world, and that is the fact that we're a Republic with a Bill of Rights limiting what govt is allowed to do.

In democracies, the govt makes the rules and tell the public how to abide, but here in the US, the people tell govt what rules they are to abide by.
Like I ask everyone that likes to claim we're a democracy, show me anywhere in our Founding Documents where the word democracy appears, even once.

Quote from: Tory Potter on December 08, 2020, 06:55:55 AM
While much of the content of this forum is entertaining and somewhat educational in a way, it usually doesn't matter because nobody changes their mind and nobody who matters cares what you say.

I disagree. I've changed my mind on things over the years.  Also, when it comes to common sense, conservatism, culture, the Constitution, etc., we're all in line for the most part.  Most of our disagreements are "bringing others out from the cold", where we have to de-program them.

QuoteThe above quote appears to call for President Trump to use the military to remain in office.

No, that's not what it is.  Foreign governments have infiltrated all aspects of our government, from local to Federal, and they just tried to steal the election.  That requires extreme solutions, like the military.

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Now, I am likely missing something, but this is the sort of post that will draw the attention of people you don't want to mess with. Mainly the FBI.

That's ridiculous.  We're a free country, and we can opine on what's happening.  Also, none of us control the military, so there's not much that could get us into trouble.

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You have every right to exercise your first amendment right

Incorrect. I can exercise my God-given right to free speech, which is protected by the First Amendment from government.

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but be prepared for the consequences. Some people throw the word 'treason' around very casually, but for a President to overturn the result of an election by using military force is real treason.

You're really behind on this.  He won the election results; the enemy conspiring with China and foreign actors tried to overturn the results.  Trump won BIG.  The military component involves taking down the foreign enemy, and those who conspired with them.

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Fortunately, President Trump is a patriot and if the Electoral College determines that Mr. Biden will be sworn in as POTUS on Jan. 20th, President Trump will do what the Constitution requires. To suggest otherwise would be an insult to his integrity.

Incorrect.  Being Canadian, I assume you're used to submitting and taking a knee and doing what you're told.  Here in the United States, we're not like that, and it's beyond any reasonable doubt that President Trump dominated this election.  Thankfully, he's not conceding, therefore, we're not conceding.

Just because foreign enemies want to control our elections doesn't mean we have to let them and submit.  I think that's what you don't understand - these are UNITED STATES elections where American citizens vote.

Quote from: Solar on December 07, 2020, 05:11:57 AM
It's what we've been saying all along, that Trump was put in office by a very Patriotic group within the Military.
He has access to the greatest minds/thinktanks in the world, which gives him the ability to set traps several moves ahead of the commies.
When they move and think they've won they only did as Trump wanted, they are moving toward their own demise.

How was he put in office by patriotic military supporters, did they cheat?

Quote from: Possum on December 09, 2020, 03:58:11 AM
We are not a democracy. Period. What we are looking at is what it will take to preserve the republic. If the fraud in this election is not overturned, we will lose the republic. Keeping a democracy is easy, just force everyone to vote and have the results in advance.

100%

Republican candidates do not lose elections because they have the majority support of Americans. This is a fact. When we see republicans "lose" in elections it is, and only can be through voter fraud. The military, which protects this country from foreign influence and invaders, has been on this for a very long time. The only reason demonrats have won a single election in the past twenty years is because our military has been building evidence against them. They allow it sometimes so that we can incentivise them to become more sloppy with their methods. It's all according to the plan.

This sting operation has culminated in the demonrats hostile takeover of this presidential election. President Trump won, by the largest numbers in American history. He won all 538 electoral votes in landslide victories in all 50 states. This was the perfect election to allow the demonrats to show their hand because President Trumps victory was so immense, so irrefutable that when the demonrats tried to steal it... proving it was fraud would be easier than proving there are only two genders.

What Taxed is saying, I believe, is that this election was a sting, or a trap. It was a military operation to catch them in the act. We have them on record now, red handed, as well as the judges and governors that were in on it. We have their treason all on record.

So, it will not be the supreme court, because we all assumed the communist influence would even infiltrate them. It will be our military that brings the demonrats down and secures President Trump AT LEAST another four years. The military will subdue the riots via martial law, send Joe Biden to GITMO on charges of treason, and install our President Donald J Trump for the second of many many more terms to follow.

Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 06:41:57 PM
How was he put in office by patriotic military supporters, did they cheat?

Nope, they do everything legally. They took advantage of the dems and hildogs overconfidence that she wld win in 2016, so the dems didnt cheat nearly as much in that one, not nearly as much as they needed to.

Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 09, 2020, 09:57:19 PM
Republican candidates do not lose elections because they have the majority support of Americans. This is a fact. When we see republicans "lose" in elections it is, and only can be through voter fraud. The military, which protects this country from foreign influence and invaders, has been on this for a very long time. The only reason demonrats have won a single election in the past twenty years is because our military has been building evidence against them. They allow it sometimes so that we can incentivise them to become more sloppy with their methods. It's all according to the plan.

This sting operation has culminated in the demonrats hostile takeover of this presidential election. President Trump won, by the largest numbers in American history. He won all 538 electoral votes in landslide victories in all 50 states. This was the perfect election to allow the demonrats to show their hand because President Trumps victory was so immense, so irrefutable that when the demonrats tried to steal it... proving it was fraud would be easier than proving there are only two genders.

What Taxed is saying, I believe, is that this election was a sting, or a trap. It was a military operation to catch them in the act. We have them on record now, red handed, as well as the judges and governors that were in on it. We have their treason all on record.

So, it will not be the supreme court, because we all assumed the communist influence would even infiltrate them. It will be our military that brings the demonrats down and secures President Trump AT LEAST another four years. The military will subdue the riots via martial law, send Joe Biden to GITMO on charges of treason, and install our President Donald J Trump for the second of many many more terms to follow.

Exactly!!!
Anyone that's been following all the triggers has seen the traps tripped in real time over the last 4 years.
Everything the Dims have done was in part their idea, in truth, Trump was setting them up and like rats in a maze they followed the only logical course.

Sure they got the cheese, but only because it was placed there, as was the next piece and the next after that. The Dims have been hanging themselves all along, clueless that their every move was being recorded for posterity and the courts.

Q told us to be patient, it has to happen this way.

Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: b3a95d No.11618946
Nov 12 2020 22:20:17 (EST)
Shall we play a game?

NCSWIC
https://www.cisa.gov/safecom/NCSWIC
Who stepped down today [forced]?
https://www.cisa.gov/bryan-s-ware
More coming?
Why is this relevant?
How do you 'show' the public the truth?
How do you 'safeguard' US elections post-POTUS?
How do you 'remove' foreign interference and corruption and install US-owned voter ID law(s) and other safeguards?
It had to be this way.
Sometimes you must walk through the darkness before you see the light.
Q

Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 09, 2020, 09:57:19 PM
Republican candidates do not lose elections because they have the majority support of Americans. This is a fact. When we see republicans "lose" in elections it is, and only can be through voter fraud. The military, which protects this country from foreign influence and invaders, has been on this for a very long time. The only reason demonrats have won a single election in the past twenty years is because our military has been building evidence against them. They allow it sometimes so that we can incentivise them to become more sloppy with their methods. It's all according to the plan.

This sting operation has culminated in the demonrats hostile takeover of this presidential election. President Trump won, by the largest numbers in American history. He won all 538 electoral votes in landslide victories in all 50 states. This was the perfect election to allow the demonrats to show their hand because President Trumps victory was so immense, so irrefutable that when the demonrats tried to steal it... proving it was fraud would be easier than proving there are only two genders.

What Taxed is saying, I believe, is that this election was a sting, or a trap. It was a military operation to catch them in the act. We have them on record now, red handed, as well as the judges and governors that were in on it. We have their treason all on record.

So, it will not be the supreme court, because we all assumed the communist influence would even infiltrate them. It will be our military that brings the demonrats down and secures President Trump AT LEAST another four years. The military will subdue the riots via martial law, send Joe Biden to GITMO on charges of treason, and install our President Donald J Trump for the second of many many more terms to follow.

You guys have gone down the deep well. The military isn't going to save trump. They dont even like him that much. Trust me when i say donald would not put his neck on the line for you people.

Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 04:05:14 AM
You guys have gone down the deep well. The military isn't going to save trump. They dont even like him that much. Trust me when i say donald would not put his neck on the line for you people.

When Trump is seated, are you still going to rely on the sources that lied to you over the last 4 year?

They told you he colluded with Russia, turns out that the DNC were the ones colluding and got caught during a fraudulent Impeachment/COUP.

Yet here you are so certain you are being told the truth? You know what they call people like you, Right?

Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 04:05:14 AM
You guys have gone down the deep well. The military isn't going to save trump. They dont even like him that much. Trust me when i say donald would not put his neck on the line for you people.

I have yet to see anything you post that I think is true. You are just a damn puppet for the dems who can only repeat what you are told by them. I have bull sh-t all over my pasture, but it does not compare to what you post. Trust you???

Quote from: Possum on December 10, 2020, 04:16:27 AM
I have yet to see anything you post that I think is true. You are just a damn puppet for the dems who can only repeat what you are told by them. I have bull sh-t all over my pasture, but it does not compare to what you post. Trust you???

He's a typical lib, lying is second nature when it comes to anything in their lives. He claimed to be a communist, then claimed he never said such a thing, so I reposted his words.
He acted like it was no big deal to lie.

This is what delineates the left from the Right, we have no reason to lie, they need to lie to hide their true intentions.

Quote from: Solar on December 10, 2020, 04:29:05 AM
He's a typical lib, lying is second nature when it comes to anything in their lives. He claimed to be a communist, then claimed he never said such a thing, so I reposted his words.
He acted like it was no big deal to lie.

This is what delineates the left from the Right, we have no reason to lie, they need to lie to hide their true intentions.

Guess he is good for a laugh every once in a while. Hate to tell him this, but what he is posting is not helping his cause, it is only showing other liberals how stupid their thinking is.