Why we must back Trump... (a funny thing happened on the way to the forum)

Started by wally, September 23, 2016, 09:56:39 AM

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Quote from: Coyote9 on September 25, 2016, 09:28:25 PM
Trump is not easy to label.  One thing he definitely is not is politically correct. 
Wrong son, Trump is an admitted lib, so he's a lib, it's that easy!

QuoteI suggest trying the following:  List all the things that are important to you as a conservative....then note Trump's position on each important matter. Then, do the same with hillary.  Whoever is most in agreement with what is important to you, then vote for them. 
How? Trump has not kept one promise, so there is no way to tell where he stands on any given issue, but considering he knows absolutely nothing about the Constitution or Bill of Rights, it's safe to label him the lib he is.

QuoteIf all republicans and Conservatives do that and do not let someone confuse them with labels and over-wrought idealism, then I have no doubt how they will vote.
We did that, and that's why we're not supporting the lib, the Establishment lib to be exact.
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Quote from: wally on September 23, 2016, 09:56:39 AM
I have hated Donald Trump since he stole the nomination from a field of Republican candidates which included several much more qualified Conservatives. 

Along with other Conservatives, I have anguished over what Obama and the Democrats (Marxists) have done to our county over the past eight years.  We all had so much hope for a true Conservative to carry the Republican banner in this election.  So many of us believed that the time was right for the majority of Americans to come together and reject the Democrat's path of the destruction of this country, which we all love so much.

Unfortunately...Donald Trump proved himself to be even a more talented charlatan than our current Celebrity-In-Chief.  We lost our chance to have one of our own lead our nation in the direction required to undo the damage done by the Marxists. 

I came to realize that what I hated the most, is what Rush came to call the "Uninformed Voters" who snatched Obama a victory in 2012, right out of the jaws of what looked to be his inevitable defeat! Donald Trump has inspired (so many of) them to not only support him...but to trust him and renew their wish upon a star HOPE for a CHANGE they can BELIEVE IN!

In our polarized 50/50 nation, where about fifty percent of either party will vote for whoever (whatever) individual their own party picks...the fight is around the margins..and that mean what the media calls the "undecided voters".  So many of these are the "uniformed voters" who cast their votes for the celebrity candidate that says what they wish to hear! 

Disgusting as it is...It is what it is!

NOW...I have come to BELIEVE that our choice is no more than choosing the lesser of TWO EVILS! :cry: :cry: :angry:

Obama has demonstrated that he and his Alynsky style Marxists will destroy this county and rebuild it to suit themselves.  Children who were TEN YEARS OLD at the time Obama came to power, will now be voting in this election!  If the Marxists have another one of their own elected, They will see it as a Mandate to continue on their Path towards a Marxist Oligarchy! 

Conservatives must suck it up and deal with the reality that Hillary Clinton must be defeated and that the only way we have a place at the table, is if we help Donald J. Trump defeat her!

I guess it's not so funny, but I see members of this forum whom I respect as great Americans and solid Conservatives willing to concede this election to Hillary and the Marxist Cabal..rather than vote for a man they despise (who, I agree is not a Conservative).

Folks, let's not make the Perfect, the enemy of the Good!  It will just have to be good enough for us to control all three branches of our government and be able to have a positive, conservative voice in the direction of this county

Suck it up and vote for this self serving Son of a Bitch, for he is the lesser of two Evils!

I agree with you  for all the reasons to which you refer.  I do not like everything about Trump, but I like nothing about Hillary Clinton.  A write in vote or not voting at all is a vote for Clinton. I am not a child who gets angry and goes home and takes my ball with me.  That is exactly what I would be doing by voting for a person who isn't running or writing in a name I would have preferred.  If Hillary Clinton wins, it will be on the heads of those who do.

Coyote9

Some reasons why I will vote for Donald Trump:

"Some long time conservative activists have signed a manifesto complaining that Donald Trump is not conservative enough. In fact, there's plenty of conservative red-meat in Trump's platform to warm the heart of any on the right.

Trump has put forward the most radical pro-growth and pro-business tax proposal of any candidate, a set of proposals praised by supply side guru and former Reagan economic adviser Larry Kudlow.

Trump's dynamic proposal would cut the U.S. corporate tax rate below that of China, end the practice of inversion in which over $2 trillion harbored off-shore by US companies would be brought back to the U.S. to be taxed at a fair rate, Wall Street's hedge fund managers would finally pay their fair share and every American would get a tax cut.

Trump is a life-long supporter of the Second Amendment and has a coveted and difficult to get concealed carry permit in New York City. Having known "The Donald" for almost 40 years, I can say that the odds that he is carrying a weapon for his protection -- most of the time when he is in New York -- are overwhelming. Does this sound like a gun grabber to you?

Trump has vowed to rebuild our military to be second to none as a deterrent to those who would engage us. This is based on the principle of "Peace through Strength " exposed by Barry Goldwater and practiced by Ronald Reagan. Trump would also end our pinprick military strategy against ISIS and ramp up a full scale effort to destroy the terrorists.

Trump once supported abortion on demand. This changed after the birth of his youngest son, Barron. The Trumps came to view every life as precious.

Doomed is the movement that doesn't embrace converts.

I met Donald Trump 37-years-ago when I was sent to New York to organize the state for Ronald Reagan. Trump and his father, one of the original financiers of Goldwater, were on the Reagan Finance Committee.

I recalled this three years ago when I asked Donald to address a South Florida Tea Party Rally, an event which drew a record crowd.


Many of the co-signers of the National Review manifesto are friends of mine. I recall, however, the dictum of NR founder Bill Buckley who said "I'm for the most conservative candidate who can win."

In 2016 that person is Donald J. Trump.


Trump is a guy that can be supported by both sides of the aisle and independents as well.

TRUMP 2016!"

fr.  'Why Conservatives should back Trump'  by Roger Stone.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/01/22/opinion-why-conservatives-should-back-trump.html




Double D

Quote from: Coyote9 on September 26, 2016, 10:54:25 AM
Some reasons why I will vote for Donald Trump:

"Some long time conservative activists have signed a manifesto complaining that Donald Trump is not conservative enough. In fact, there's plenty of conservative red-meat in Trump's platform to warm the heart of any on the right.

Trump has put forward the most radical pro-growth and pro-business tax proposal of any candidate, a set of proposals praised by supply side guru and former Reagan economic adviser Larry Kudlow.

Trump's dynamic proposal would cut the U.S. corporate tax rate below that of China, end the practice of inversion in which over $2 trillion harbored off-shore by US companies would be brought back to the U.S. to be taxed at a fair rate, Wall Street's hedge fund managers would finally pay their fair share and every American would get a tax cut.

Trump is a life-long supporter of the Second Amendment and has a coveted and difficult to get concealed carry permit in New York City. Having known "The Donald" for almost 40 years, I can say that the odds that he is carrying a weapon for his protection -- most of the time when he is in New York -- are overwhelming. Does this sound like a gun grabber to you?

Trump has vowed to rebuild our military to be second to none as a deterrent to those who would engage us. This is based on the principle of "Peace through Strength " exposed by Barry Goldwater and practiced by Ronald Reagan. Trump would also end our pinprick military strategy against ISIS and ramp up a full scale effort to destroy the terrorists.

Trump once supported abortion on demand. This changed after the birth of his youngest son, Barron. The Trumps came to view every life as precious.

Doomed is the movement that doesn't embrace converts.

I met Donald Trump 37-years-ago when I was sent to New York to organize the state for Ronald Reagan. Trump and his father, one of the original financiers of Goldwater, were on the Reagan Finance Committee.

I recalled this three years ago when I asked Donald to address a South Florida Tea Party Rally, an event which drew a record crowd.


Many of the co-signers of the National Review manifesto are friends of mine. I recall, however, the dictum of NR founder Bill Buckley who said "I'm for the most conservative candidate who can win."

In 2016 that person is Donald J. Trump.


Trump is a guy that can be supported by both sides of the aisle and independents as well.

TRUMP 2016!"

fr.  'Why Conservatives should back Trump'  by Roger Stone.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/01/22/opinion-why-conservatives-should-back-trump.html

Just another brainwashed trumpbot that just wants his king, the orange obama.
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taxed

Quote from: Coyote9 on September 25, 2016, 09:28:25 PM
Trump is not easy to label.  One thing he definitely is not is politically correct. 

I suggest trying the following:  List all the things that are important to you as a conservative....then note Trump's position on each important matter.

Then, do the same with hillary.  Whoever is most in agreement with what is important to you, then vote for them. 

If all republicans and Conservatives do that and do not let someone confuse them with labels and over-wrought idealism, then I have no doubt how they will vote.

Trump voted for Carter.  He voted for Kerry.  He voted for Hillary in 2008.

You really know a lot about your candidate.
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Ms.Independence

Quote from: Coyote9 on September 25, 2016, 05:41:51 PM
People looking for perfection should not be in politics.  As said before:  there has never been a perfect candidate either in the democratic party or the Republican Party. 

What we are now seeing is a lot of insanity in the Republican Party and I am not talking about the candidate.  We are seeing people who claim to be conservative and heretofore claimed to be republican acting emotionally without logic, without reason simply because the guy they wanted did not win.  That is political immaturity. 

Politics like life is not fair.  You can never expect the best guy to win just because he is the best guy.  You have to understand the complex factors that determine who a candidate shall be.  Most of all when it comes time to vote you should -if you are sane and want to make a wise decision vote for the one who offers you the most of what you think is important.

Now look at Trump then look at hillary.  Trump is for secure borders and tightened legal immigration.  Hillary is essentially for open borders, for bringing in more muslims etc.  Now just on this one factor alone:  who is most conservative but more important who is the one that offers you most of what you want?

Now for another huge issue:  the right to keep and bear arms.  Trump supports the second amendment but we all know that hillary wants to take your weapons and leave you defenseless.  Now which position appeals to you most?  Would you let hillary take your weapons just to spite Trump?

Now look at terrorism.  Hillary has said muslims have nothing to do with terrorism, on the other hand--time and again Trump has warned against the islamic threat.  Hillary along with obama will not even say the words:  'Islamic Terrorism'.  So again make your choice.

Go on down the list of all the things you support and then decide which one supports what you believe in the most.  Then you can make an intelligent decision.  Do not let the huksters and all those who get hung up on labels mislead you.  Just because they are confused and emotional over their guy getting beat, do not let them lead you into not voting, voting for hillary or throwing your vote away.  Be sensible, be rational, be mature and above all do not let unbridled idealism sway you from voting for the guy who will allow those who believe like you at least a seat at the table, where you and those who think like you will still have some influence.

Just pure common sense to vote for the guy who will do the most for you.  Do not let those who would hang a placard above his head and try and label him a liberal or whatever deceive you.

Trump is what he is and the bottom line is he will fight for you and America whereas the democratic candidate is a globalist.   America First is Trump's  battle cry and anyone who cannot go along with that is deluded beyond hope.....certainly not a True Conservative.

I read your commentary.  What you fail or have failed to realize is that Trump has been a liberal and voted liberal most of his life.  He's in the same social circle as the Clintons, Bush's, Soros, etc.  To think that somewhere along his long life as a liberal he had some kind of conservative epiphany is really quite naive.  He simply saw an opportunity and jumped in preying upon the frustration and anger of the GOP electorate and sold himself as an outsider who was going to be like Superman saving the day.  If you really paid attention to him it was pretty obvious the game he has playing.  It began with him stating that if he wasn't treated fairly he wouldn't back the GOP candidate (who is treated fairly?) relentlessly attacking the most conservative candidate in the race, without attention to his real opponent, Hillary. He also has flip-flopped on just about every major issue brought up. Demonstrating that he has no knowledge of the function of the three branches of government and our Constitutuion should have been a red flag to anyone paying attention and not caught up in his rhetoric.
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Anyone who takes Roger Stone as an authority or reliable source - is a sucker.

Has Donald Trump paused and stood still on any political position long enough for the Presses' ink to dry?
I understand why Ted Cruz and Mark Levin have decided to vote Trump - Hillary is scaring the hell out of them (and me!).

I'd like to hear 5 solid, major, policy positions from a Constitutional Conservative position from Donald Trump, just 5... and he'd have my vote.  I haven't heard 2 yet.  There's a lot of "Hillary is the Devil Incarnate" stuff, none of which would matter if Trump is President.

Why can't these Trump-a-loons think where Trump would take us 1 year after winning the Oval Office?

Oh, I get it, Donald is not Hillary.  But, Hillary has State Department experience, maybe she's "qualify" for Donald's Secretary of State, Ambassador to Qatar or Saudi Arabia - she's got a lot of friends over there!

Why does everyone think the politics of Donald Trump STOP after the election -IF- Hillary loses?
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Rotwang

Quote from: taxed on October 13, 2016, 12:00:42 PM
Trump voted for Carter.  He voted for Kerry.  He voted for Hillary in 2008.

You really know a lot about your candidate.

Voting for Hillary is different than BEING Hillary.

taxed

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Quote from: Rotwang on October 14, 2016, 02:45:38 PM
Voting for Hillary is different than BEING Hillary.
Not much there to go on. But, I have to admit, trump is really putting on a show this week.
My favorite http://www.salon.com/2016/10/13/trump-says-he-has-evidence-to-disprove-allegations-of-sexual-assault-will-release-it-at-appropriate-time/

Straight out of junior high school. I sure hope this is the low point for the republican party because I can not image how the party can get any lower than trump.

I wonder what topics the next debate might bring up???? :scared:

Solar

Quote from: s3779m on October 14, 2016, 03:28:40 PM
Not much there to go on. But, I have to admit, trump is really putting on a show this week.
My favorite http://www.salon.com/2016/10/13/trump-says-he-has-evidence-to-disprove-allegations-of-sexual-assault-will-release-it-at-appropriate-time/

Straight out of junior high school. I sure hope this is the low point for the republican party because I can not image how the party can get any lower than trump.

I wonder what topics the next debate might bring up???? :scared:
Gee, don't ya think "NOW", might be the best time to release the evidence Trump?
How stupid do these libs take us for?
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taxed

Quote from: s3779m on October 14, 2016, 03:28:40 PM
Not much there to go on. But, I have to admit, trump is really putting on a show this week.
My favorite http://www.salon.com/2016/10/13/trump-says-he-has-evidence-to-disprove-allegations-of-sexual-assault-will-release-it-at-appropriate-time/

Straight out of junior high school. I sure hope this is the low point for the republican party because I can not image how the party can get any lower than trump.

I wonder what topics the next debate might bring up???? :scared:

His evidence is sitting right next to his tax returns...
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Rotwang

Quote from: mdgiles on September 23, 2016, 05:12:36 PM
Hilary's health has got me considering voting for Trump. The idea of a brain damaged puppet, dancing to some unknown cabal's strings, bothers me.

Unknown ?


Rotwang

Quote from: s3779m on October 14, 2016, 03:28:40 PM
Not much there to go on. But, I have to admit, trump is really putting on a show this week.
My favorite http://www.salon.com/2016/10/13/trump-says-he-has-evidence-to-disprove-allegations-of-sexual-assault-will-release-it-at-appropriate-time/

Straight out of junior high school. I sure hope this is the low point for the republican party because I can not image how the party can get any lower than trump.

I wonder what topics the next debate might bring up???? :scared:

John McCain was/is lower than Trump.

McCain pretends to be a Patriot - has proven for decades he is anything but.

Wikileaks prove the GOP is only a C-Hair from being as corrupt as the TREASON-PARTY (dems).

Trump is an OUTSIDER.

We need more OUTSIDERS.