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Title: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
An extensive study of central American immigrants found that the number one predictor of immigrants from central America coming to the US is whether or not they were the victim of a violent crime within the past year of the study.

Murder rates have jumped insanely in Honduras since the US-backed coup there that overthrew a democratically elected government and replaced it with a de-facto dictator.  Clinton is largely behind the coup.

Everysingle one of those children fleeing the violence is welcome right here.



https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/understanding-central-american-refugee-crisis
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Solar on March 29, 2017, 12:49:01 PM
Couple of points.
You're right with one exception, it wasn't Clinton, it was Obozo. Hillary was merely his tool.
The other point is, it was a planned disruption to flood the US with refugees in an effort to destroy the American culture.
"My plan is to fundamentally change America".
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: supsalemgr on March 29, 2017, 12:59:34 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
An extensive study of central American immigrants found that the number one predictor of immigrants from central America coming to the US is whether or not they were the victim of a violent crime within the past year of the study.

Murder rates have jumped insanely in Honduras since the US-backed coup there that overthrew a democratically elected government and replaced it with a de-facto dictator.  Clinton is largely behind the coup.

Everysingle one of those children fleeing the violence is welcome right here.



https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/understanding-central-american-refugee-crisis

Since when is it our responsibility to take care of everyone in a country run by tyrants? Other Central and South Americans should step up.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 29, 2017, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
An extensive study of central American immigrants found that the number one predictor of immigrants from central America coming to the US is whether or not they were the victim of a violent crime within the past year of the study.

Murder rates have jumped insanely in Honduras since the US-backed coup there that overthrew a democratically elected government and replaced it with a de-facto dictator.  Clinton is largely behind the coup.

Everysingle one of those children fleeing the violence is welcome right here.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/understanding-central-american-refugee-crisis


Not every single one is welcome.

This is how we got MS-13 into our country....a communist led insurgency in el Salvador thanks to FMLN and 'children'
fleeing the violence...... :popcorn:

we got plenty of 15 and 16 year old gang banging killers out of that one.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: zewazir on March 29, 2017, 01:37:10 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
An extensive study of central American immigrants found that the number one predictor of immigrants from central America coming to the US is whether or not they were the victim of a violent crime within the past year of the study.

Murder rates have jumped insanely in Honduras since the US-backed coup there that overthrew a democratically elected government and replaced it with a de-facto dictator.  Clinton is largely behind the coup.

Everysingle one of those children fleeing the violence is welcome right here.



https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/understanding-central-american-refugee-crisis
Just out of curiosity, what is your fascination with Honduras? Are you aware that less than 3% of illegal immigrants come from Honduras? In fact, all of Central America only accounts for 14% while Mexico accounts for 59%. About 10% come from Asian countries, and the other 15% scattered across the rest of the globe.

http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845#countries

As such, using Honduras to justify your humanist progressive stance on the topic of illegal immigration is, at best, faulty logic.

Then again, do progressives use any other kind?
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 01:39:32 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 29, 2017, 12:59:34 PM
Since when is it our responsibility to take care of everyone in a country run by tyrants? Other Central and South Americans should step up.
Its not.  It is in this case because for 30 years we have destroyed central America.  Go read about it!
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: taxed on March 29, 2017, 02:04:35 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
An extensive study of central American immigrants found that the number one predictor of immigrants from central America coming to the US is whether or not they were the victim of a violent crime within the past year of the study.

Murder rates have jumped insanely in Honduras since the US-backed coup there that overthrew a democratically elected government and replaced it with a de-facto dictator.  Clinton is largely behind the coup.

Everysingle one of those children fleeing the violence is welcome right here.


They're not welcome here.  They can stay in their own country and handle their own business.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Ms.Independence on March 29, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 01:39:32 PM
Its not.  It is in this case because for 30 years we have destroyed central America.  Go read about it!

OMG!  Next thing is you'll be telling us how American exceptionalism is pure evil. Please .... don't even bother!  :popcorn:

BTW --- Let me guess (and if you posted this earlier, I missed it).  You are either a college student or just out of college?
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 03:58:45 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 29, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
OMG!  Next thing is you'll be telling us how American exceptionalism is pure evil. Please .... don't even bother!  :popcorn:

BTW --- Let me guess (and if you posted this earlier, I missed it).  You are either a college student or just out of college?
Its not evil.  Thats a mad up word by the credulous who believe in god.

Its like every other countries.  Self interested and reflexive of the powerful who run our society.  Its violent and bloody.  just like any other nation who had the power to do the same.


We have destroyed central america.  Over 50 years.  I will continue to send my money to donate to causes that allow their entry.  They are the real Americans and I stand with them any day of the week.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Ms.Independence on March 29, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 03:58:45 PM
Its not evil.  Thats a mad up word by the credulous who believe in god.

Its like every other countries.  Self interested and reflexive of the powerful who run our society.  Its violent and bloody.  just like any other nation who had the power to do the same.


We have destroyed central america.  Over 50 years.  I will continue to send my money to donate to causes that allow their entry.  They are the real Americans and I stand with them any day of the week.

Whatever loops your fruit, Blake.  Are you a member of LaRaza?
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: taxed on March 29, 2017, 04:46:36 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 03:58:45 PM
Its not evil.  Thats a mad up word by the credulous who believe in god.

Its like every other countries.  Self interested and reflexive of the powerful who run our society.  Its violent and bloody.  just like any other nation who had the power to do the same.
Can't they stay in their craphole?  Why do they need to bring their crime and diseases here?

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We have destroyed central america.  Over 50 years.  I will continue to send my money to donate to causes that allow their entry.  They are the real Americans and I stand with them any day of the week.
I'd say you should help air-drop some toilet paper into Venezuela, but they haven't been eating to even need toilet paper.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on March 29, 2017, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
An extensive study of central American immigrants found that the number one predictor of immigrants from central America coming to the US is whether or not they were the victim of a violent crime within the past year of the study.

Murder rates have jumped insanely in Honduras since the US-backed coup there that overthrew a democratically elected government and replaced it with a de-facto dictator.  Clinton is largely behind the coup.

Everysingle one of those children fleeing the violence is welcome right here.



https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/understanding-central-american-refugee-crisis

We have millions of Americans living on the street, including hundreds of thousands of vets. We have tens of million living in poverty. Let's deal with them first. Then we can go about taking in all these immigrants. Deal?
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: taxed on March 29, 2017, 05:13:50 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 29, 2017, 04:58:37 PM
We have millions of Americans living on the street, including hundreds of thousands of vets. We have tens of million living in poverty. Let's deal with them first. Then we can go about taking in all these immigrants. Deal?

He's mad at the vets for destroying Central America.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 29, 2017, 04:58:37 PM
We have millions of Americans living on the street, including hundreds of thousands of vets. We have tens of million living in poverty. Let's deal with them first. Then we can go about taking in all these immigrants. Deal?
Best argument I have heard here.  But sorry, we can do both at the same time.  All we have to do is put people over corproate wealth.  Thats all.

I can gurantee I have done more vets then the poster who responded below.  As to point out to that loser, the operations in Central America were by the CIA, not soldiers.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on March 29, 2017, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 06:00:13 PM
Best argument I have heard here.  But sorry, we can do both at the same time.

I'm pretty sure I pur America first.

QuoteAll we have to do is put people over corproate wealth.  Thats all.

Ah, that's right. Successful people are evil.



QuoteI can gurantee I have done more vets then the poster who responded below.  As to point out to that loser, the operations in Central America were by the CIA, not soldiers.

I'm not interested in your sex life.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: quiller on March 30, 2017, 04:04:17 AM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 01:39:32 PM
Its not.  It is in this case because for 30 years we have destroyed central America.  Go read about it!

Oh, I am EVER so relieved that the dictators and drug cartels which OWN the Mexican government have NOTHING to do with the problem!

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Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: supsalemgr on March 30, 2017, 05:14:06 AM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 29, 2017, 01:39:32 PM
Its not.  It is in this case because for 30 years we have destroyed central America.  Go read about it!

I am not going to chase your rainbows. You tell us how the US has destroyed CA for the past 30 years. That is your statement. Now back it up.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 06:47:10 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 30, 2017, 05:14:06 AM
I am not going to chase your rainbows. You tell us how the US has destroyed CA for the past 30 years. That is your statement. Now back it up.

I will play.  Before we continue, I would like to no what sources you find acceptable.  In other words, give me examples of documents/sources that would pass the test of credibility.

Yesterday, I posted 20.  And the only response I got was that every single military, scientist, etc, was a scammer.  Without evidence.  But I would like to know this time in advance.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2017, 07:41:19 AM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 06:47:10 AM
I will play.  Before we continue, I would like to no what sources you find acceptable.  In other words, give me examples of documents/sources that would pass the test of credibility.

Yesterday, I posted 20.  And the only response I got was that every single military, scientist, etc, was a scammer.  Without evidence.  But I would like to know this time in advance.
No, what you posted was proof that the Marxist had a death grip on the pentagon.
You do know he was purging the militaries of Conservatives, right? So is it any surprise the commie would push his failed "Gree" policy on entities he has control over?
IRS, EPA, DOJ etc and the list is almost endless.
No, you proved nothing with the exception of proving our point for us.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 07:44:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 30, 2017, 07:41:19 AM
No, what you posted was proof that the Marxist had a death grip on the pentagon.
You do know he was purging the militaries of Conservatives, right? So is it any surprise the commie would push his failed "Gree" policy on entities he has control over?
IRS, EPA, DOJ etc and the list is almost endless.
No, you proved nothing with the exception of proving our point for us.

Nope thats incorrect.  He kept most of Bush's generals on.  These reports came out the same under Bush, go back and check it.  So you are 100percent wrong, there is no communists in office and you dont know what a communist is.

Your assertion is 100% wrong.
One sample below, each year the pentagon warned bush on climate change. 

So your statement is 100% wrong, embarassing and blatantly one based on ignorance of any facts without any attempt of discovering them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: supsalemgr on March 30, 2017, 08:03:30 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 30, 2017, 05:14:06 AM
I am not going to chase your rainbows. You tell us how the US has destroyed CA for the past 30 years. That is your statement. Now back it up.

Don't you have an opinion? You do obviously, so let's hear it.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2017, 08:08:29 AM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 07:44:07 AM
Nope thats incorrect.  He kept most of Bush's generals on.  These reports came out the same under Bush, go back and check it.  So you are 100percent wrong, there is no communists in office and you dont know what a communist is.

Your assertion is 100% wrong.
One sample below, each year the pentagon warned bush on climate change. 

So your statement is 100% wrong, embarassing and blatantly one based on ignorance of any facts without any attempt of discovering them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver
Bush is a RINO, of course, he loves AGW, so your claim means nothing.
God, can you drop the AGW bull shit in every damn thread?
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 08:15:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 30, 2017, 08:08:29 AM
Bush is a RINO, of course, he loves AGW, so your claim means nothing.
God, can you drop the AGW bull shit in every damn thread?

Bush tried to hide the report.

You just stated the military made this report inpart cause Obama purged the military.

You were just proven 100% wrong.

Bush denied climate change.

So wrong squared.  If you cant admit you were wrong on the last narrow point you made, about purging the military, you simply never admit you are wrong ever.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Ghoulardi on March 30, 2017, 08:16:06 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 29, 2017, 01:03:52 PM

Not every single one is welcome.

This is how we got MS-13 into our country....a communist led insurgency in el Salvador thanks to FMLN and 'children'
fleeing the violence...... :popcorn:

we got plenty of 15 and 16 year old gang banging killers out of that one.

That's been my argument to people who try to shame me by telling me how the illegals are just looking for a chance, look at the awful places they come from, they claim.

My answer: If they come from such awful places why do they replicate them here? I would think someone wanting a chance would want a fresh start.

Now, I know this isn't true of all illegals, but the ones that this is true of are the ones getting all the press.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Solar on March 30, 2017, 08:17:14 AM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 08:15:06 AM
Bush tried to hide the report.

You just stated the military made this report inpart cause Obama purged the military.

You were just proven 100% wrong.

Bush denied climate change.

So wrong squared.  If you cant admit you were wrong on the last narrow point you made, about purging the military, you simply never admit you are wrong ever.
Uhh, those are your words, not mine, I never said such a thing. That better be the last time you pull that shit!
This thread is being moved because it's been derailed.
Title: Re: WHy the Immigrants Come?
Post by: Ghoulardi on March 30, 2017, 08:35:29 AM
Quote from: blake allyn on March 30, 2017, 08:15:06 AM
Bush tried to hide the report.

You just stated the military made this report inpart cause Obama purged the military.

You were just proven 100% wrong.

Bush denied climate change.

So wrong squared.  If you cant admit you were wrong on the last narrow point you made, about purging the military, you simply never admit you are wrong ever.

Seems your both wrong and right, and Solar is right

Bush has flip flopped on climate change

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President Bush has been vocal on the issue of climate change for years, but his stated views on global warming seem to have shifted several times.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7115660