Why profiling is the way to go

Started by tbone0106, November 27, 2010, 01:25:45 AM

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tbone0106

New terrorist thing in Seattle.

Didn't work out very well for the terrorist.

A mug shot of this asshole got out on the internet....



Jeez, he looks almost exactly like my mom. No, wait, he looks more like my 4-year-old grandson.

The thing is, I could NEVER pick this guy out for screening at an airport! How would you know? They're invisible! They look just like everybody else!

tbone0106

Oh, and I saved a copy of the mug shot, just in case the MSM forget what this POS looks like.

tbone0106

Oh, and his name is Mohamed Osman Mohamud.

A good Irish name, that.

It has been suggested that we actually watch out for those named "Mohamed." But just as quickly, such suggestions are derided as "racist."

What say you?

arpad

I don't think profiling is the way to go but getting hysterical about it being racist says more about the people who are objecting then it does about what they're objecting too. Profiling is a tool. It's a useful tool and it's also a tool with some dangers inherent in it.

But dangerous times justify the use of dangerous tools which is why the resistance to profiling says more about those who oppose profiling then it does about profiling. Lefties have managed to stuff 9/11 into the "historic incident" memory category.

Yes 9/11 happened but that was a long time ago, just like 12/7. Do we profile orientals because of the Pearl Harbor attack? No. Therefor, since 9/11 and 12/7 are the same those who have a connection with either incident should be treated the same.

Lefties are always on the lookout for some way to feel superior and with a black guy in the White House it's a little tough for them, although by no means impossible, to strike a mighty blow against racism by being terribly upset about it. Since they can spin profiling of potential terrorists into racism so they can feel courageous by resisting profiling.

They're not going to let the issue go easily.

AmericanFlyer

There's a big difference between RACIAL profiling and CRIMINAL profiling.

Call it what it really is.  Criminal profiling.  Nothing to do with what color the person is, or what gender the person is. 

Anybody with even half-a-brain can figure out that putting 12/7/41 and 9/11/01 into the same context, claiming they both happened "a long time ago", and turning both into a nice neat "we shouldn't profile anybody from either of those incidents", is RIDICULOUS.

Trying to draw a parallel between two attacks that happened almost SIXTY years apart, and really have very little in common,  shows how "historically challenged" the left wingnuts really are.

REDWHITEBLUE2

Quote from: tbone0106 on November 27, 2010, 01:25:45 AM
New terrorist thing in Seattle.

Didn't work out very well for the terrorist.

A mug shot of this asshole got out on the internet....



Jeez, he looks almost exactly like my mom. No, wait, he looks more like my 4-year-old grandson.

The thing is, I could NEVER pick this guy out for screening at an airport! How would you know? They're invisible! They look just like everybody else!
ACTUALLY this was in Portland OR
http://www.king5.com/news/Feds-Car-bombing-busted-at-Portland-tree-lighting-110897964.html

quiller

Maybe the rep he gains of being a bona fide terrorist will save him from the Bubbas in his cell block, who will only see that 19-year-old pretty-boy face. They'll give him something to get surly about.

AmericanFlyer

Quite a fall in status.

From Islamo-terrorist on the verge of receiving his 72 virgins, all the way down to PRISON BITCH.

:)) :o :))

wally

Another Amish Terrorist!  One would think that it would be easy to pick them out of a crowd.  They just look so damn Plain, they just sort of stick out there like a sore thumb!  Too bad the (good) Amish don't shun these radicals; I mean we know they all dislike the English, but c'mon placing indiscriminate hexing of the innocent would not pass muster in the Meeting House!

"Weird" Al Yankovic - Amish Paradise
The press is our chief ideological weapon.
~ Nikita Khrushchev

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

~Ronald Reagan


REDWHITEBLUE2

Quote from: tbone0106 on November 27, 2010, 01:04:22 PM
My bad. :-[ Knew it was out there somewhere...
Only 200 miles south of seattle But Half the size

BILLY Defiant

Take this from someone who has been involved in "profiling" criminals and bad guys all of his adult life.

Most of you don't understand it.

You cannot tell a bad guy from what he looks like, because he is black, Somalian, Columbian, Italian or a big dumb looking Irishman like myself. All of those ethnic sub divisions and races have Criminals, gangsters and terrorists unique to their country, race, ethnicity.

What you are "profiling" and I don't like using that word cause it is
a buzz word used by the left to spin your heads with their usual bullcrap to get their guilty as sin client off when we had an air tight case AKA JURY SYMPATHY, is the FACTS and CIRCUMSTANCES at a given time and place. Couple that with time and place with a high crime area such as an open air drug market in an inner city (my most comfortable mileiu) or
an international airport with incoming flights from Yemen, both places have their unique set of crimes and their unique perpetrators.

Facts and circumstances can be the subjects behavior, the time of day the area (as we have already discussed) and the subjects identity, even something like his manner of dress.

Actually what you are talking about is PROBABLE CAUSE which our entire Constitution is based on. Probable cause is NOT limited to confines of a layman but the total experience, training and overall knowledge of the Officer, airport security personnel or other sources such as those in the airline industry.

In plain English, when you know what to look for and know where to be (through experience, training) and know the M.O. (method of oepration) of the bad guy. THEY STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, even though there may be hundreds or even thousands of like persons, black, white, Italian, Irish or Somalian milling about.

But all of this is sort of besides the point.

This no good SOB did not belong in this country to begin with. He was born in Somlia and some how got a Visa or permanent status to the USA...that is the first mistake, letting these people in the country to begin with. Guess where we need to start?

Billy
Evil operates best when it is disguised for what it truly is.

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"Apparently, they were stopping every vehicle traveling down that particular sidewalk, and that's profiling, and profiling's bad."

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surfer_squirrel

Quote from: AmericanFlyer on November 27, 2010, 11:18:54 AM
Quite a fall in status.

From Islamo-terrorist on the verge of receiving his 72 virgins, all the way down to PRISON BITCH.

:)) :o :))
Yeah, a few injections of female hormones and the proper clothing ................................... party time!
Government- the cancer that consumes wealth

tbone0106

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on November 27, 2010, 04:21:07 PM
Take this from someone who has been involved in "profiling" criminals and bad guys all of his adult life.

Most of you don't understand it.

You cannot tell a bad guy from what he looks like, because he is black, Somalian, Columbian, Italian or a big dumb looking Irishman like myself. All of those ethnic sub divisions and races have Criminals, gangsters and terrorists unique to their country, race, ethnicity.

What you are "profiling" and I don't like using that word cause it is
a buzz word used by the left to spin your heads with their usual bullcrap to get their guilty as sin client off when we had an air tight case AKA JURY SYMPATHY, is the FACTS and CIRCUMSTANCES at a given time and place. Couple that with time and place with a high crime area such as an open air drug market in an inner city (my most comfortable mileiu) or
an international airport with incoming flights from Yemen, both places have their unique set of crimes and their unique perpetrators.

Facts and circumstances can be the subjects behavior, the time of day the area (as we have already discussed) and the subjects identity, even something like his manner of dress.

Actually what you are talking about is PROBABLE CAUSE which our entire Constitution is based on. Probable cause is NOT limited to confines of a layman but the total experience, training and overall knowledge of the Officer, airport security personnel or other sources such as those in the airline industry.

In plain English, when you know what to look for and know where to be (through experience, training) and know the M.O. (method of oepration) of the bad guy. THEY STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, even though there may be hundreds or even thousands of like persons, black, white, Italian, Irish or Somalian milling about.

But all of this is sort of besides the point.

This no good SOB did not belong in this country to begin with. He was born in Somlia and some how got a Visa or permanent status to the USA...that is the first mistake, letting these people in the country to begin with. Guess where we need to start?

Billy

Lotsa good points, Mr. Bonney!

I guess what bothers me is that knee-jerk rejection of even considering obvious criteria such as race/ethnicity and origin and sex and age, especially when we know that every single bastard who has tried to blow up or hijack an airplane in the last 35 years has been a young male Arab Muslim.

Profiling is part of smart policing. And though it may not be trendy or politically correct, it is NOT illegal, even if it's racial profiling.

I posted this idiot's picture precisely to illustrate how stupid it is to be strip-searching little kids and grannies. Common sense -- an uncommon thing these days -- is all that's required to instantly, and SAFELY, permit 95+ percent of travelers to pass security checkpoints with the very minimum of inspection.