I have been following Hannity and others on the corruption in DC, how the Dems used the tools of government to try to win an election, how the dems spied on Trump illegally, etc..
But it seems like all there ever is is talk about all this and nothing ever comes of it. But wait, something did come of all the investigations. Trump-associates were jailed for "lying" although Mike Flynn was believed, even by the dishonest FBI interrogators, to be telling the truth...
well, some of you know all this and so.. yeh.. my point is that only conservatives or conservative-leaning people are ever convicted of anything in DC
The Republicans are too soft on the lawless, lying... dems
Remember the submarine guy, a Marine, i believe, who took pictures INSIDE a US submarine and they got him convicted for exposing US intel?
while some politicians do their business on unprotected servers and devices and one "lost" 33,000 emails, some of which were classified.. and nothing ever happened to that person...
that is just so creepy, how the every day people in this country are convicted for the littlest thing while DC politicians can commit virtual treason...
some country this has turned out to be... Did the Founders ever imagine such things..?
Quote from: cynical1 on November 09, 2019, 01:50:29 PM
I have been following Hannity and others on the corruption in DC, how the Dems used the tools of government to try to win an election, how the dems spied on Trump illegally, etc..
But it seems like all there ever is is talk about all this and nothing ever comes of it. But wait, something did come of all the investigations. Trump-associates were jailed for "lying" although Mike Flynn was believed, even by the dishonest FBI interrogators, to be telling the truth...
well, some of you know all this and so.. yeh.. my point is that only conservatives or conservative-leaning people are ever convicted of anything in DC
The Republicans are too soft on the lawless, lying... dems
Remember the submarine guy, a Marine, i believe, who took pictures INSIDE a US submarine and they got him convicted for exposing US intel?
while some politicians do their business on unprotected servers and devices and one "lost" 33,000 emails, some of which were classified.. and nothing ever happened to that person...
that is just so creepy, how the every day people in this country are convicted for the littlest thing while DC politicians can commit virtual treason...
some country this has turned out to be... Did the Founders ever imagine such things..?
Yes, they halfway expected it, which is why they gave us three competing branches of govt in hopes of creating gridlock. Also why it's called a Republic and not a democracy.
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2019, 01:59:32 PM
Yes, they halfway expected it, which is why they gave us three competing branches of govt in hopes of creating gridlock. Also why it's called a Republic and not a democracy.
do you ever get the feeling that is not sufficient?
i mean, this corruption just goes on and on and on..
our system is too unwieldy, it seems, to deal with the problem of corruption (and lying)
I mean Schiff's middle name is probably Pinocchio
Quote from: cynical1 on November 09, 2019, 02:08:34 PM
do you ever get the feeling that is not sufficient?
i mean, this corruption just goes on and on and on..
our system is too unwieldy, it seems, to deal with the problem of corruption (and lying)
I mean Schiff's middle name is probably Pinocchio
Are you saying something's not being done about it?
Quote from: taxed on November 09, 2019, 02:11:21 PM
Are you saying something's not being done about it?
it certainly SEEMS like it..
the only thing that SEEMS to be done about it is
complaining
i know the wheels of justice roll slowly in this world but good grief.. seems they have gotten stuck in the mud of late and are not moving. Of course no one even talks about Miss LockHerUp anymore
Quote from: cynical1 on November 09, 2019, 01:50:29 PM
I have been following Hannity and others on the corruption in DC, how the Dems used the tools of government to try to win an election, how the dems spied on Trump illegally, etc..
I'd quit listening to Hannity and start following people who know what's going on.
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But it seems like all there ever is is talk about all this and nothing ever comes of it. But wait, something did come of all the investigations. Trump-associates were jailed for "lying" although Mike Flynn was believed, even by the dishonest FBI interrogators, to be telling the truth...
What Trump associates were jailed?
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well, some of you know all this and so.. yeh.. my point is that only conservatives or conservative-leaning people are ever convicted of anything in DC
George Nader disagrees. Keith Reniere disagrees. Ed Buck disagrees. Anthony Wiener disagrees. Terry Bean disagrees. I could go on and on.
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The Republicans are too soft on the lawless, lying... dems
That's because they're too scared to address corruption out of fear of being called "conspiracy theorists".
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Remember the submarine guy, a Marine, i believe, who took pictures INSIDE a US submarine and they got him convicted for exposing US intel?
while some politicians do their business on unprotected servers and devices and one "lost" 33,000 emails, some of which were classified.. and nothing ever happened to that person...
that is just so creepy, how the every day people in this country are convicted for the littlest thing while DC politicians can commit virtual treason...
some country this has turned out to be... Did the Founders ever imagine such things..?
They've never been in a position like this where they're all going down.
Quote from: cynical1 on November 09, 2019, 02:16:48 PM
it certainly SEEMS like it..
That's the most insane thing I've ever heard. Criminals involved in all these corruption rings are being rounded up daily.
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the only thing that SEEMS to be done about it is
complaining
I don't complain. I enjoy all the arrests and moves against the bad guys. I love the pace of what Barr and Durham are running at.
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i know the wheels of justice roll slowly in this world but good grief.. seems they have gotten stuck in the mud of late and are not moving. Of course no one even talks about Miss LockHerUp anymore
The wheels of justice have been rolling at light speed, in my opinion.
Quote from: cynical1 on November 09, 2019, 02:16:48 PM
it certainly SEEMS like it..
the only thing that SEEMS to be done about it is
complaining
i know the wheels of justice roll slowly in this world but good grief.. seems they have gotten stuck in the mud of late and are not moving. Of course no one even talks about Miss LockHerUp anymore
I am glad to see the criminal investigations have gone to hole without any leaks. I retired from a career in law enforcement. A few times we had high profile, highly politicized cases. This impacts both the quality of the investigation and the prosecution. Justice is best served when lady justice remains blind and investigations follow the facts and nothing but the facts. Having said this, I fully understand why Donald Trump had his persona attorney conducting a concurrent investigation. Donald Trump is an American citizen who has been victimized by a criminal conspiracy. He has every right to attempt to clear his name by finding evidence of wrongdoing which may not violate any law but is a violation of Trump's civil rights. The criminal investigation may discover such things, but if the DOJ/FBI does their job right, they only will address the facts pertaining to any of those who are indicted and nothing more. All the rest is a civil matter!
Quote from: wally on November 09, 2019, 02:26:26 PM
I am glad to see the criminal investigations have gone to hole without any leaks. I retired from a career in law enforcement. A few times we had high profile, highly politicized cases. This impacts both the quality of the investigation and the prosecution. Justice is best served when lady justice remains blind and investigations follow the facts and nothing but the facts. Having said this, I fully understand why Donald Trump had his persona attorney conducting a concurrent investigation. Donald Trump is an American citizen who has been victimized by a criminal conspiracy. He has every right to attempt to clear his name by finding evidence of wrongdoing which may not violate any law but is a violation of Trump's civil rights. The criminal investigation may discover such things, but if the DOJ/FBI does their job right, they only will address the facts pertaining to any of those who are indicted and nothing more. All the rest is a civil matter!
what do you mean by "all the rest" being a civil matter?
Quote from: cynical1 on November 09, 2019, 02:16:48 PM
it certainly SEEMS like it..
the only thing that SEEMS to be done about it is
complaining
i know the wheels of justice roll slowly in this world but good grief.. seems they have gotten stuck in the mud of late and are not moving. Of course no one even talks about Miss LockHerUp anymore
I am just going to sit back and listen to the apologists and smile.The truth is that we voted in so many Republicans out of desperation to have anyone that called themselves a Republicn, We forgot about who was what a Republican was.
So we got a bunch of Democrats that called themselves Republicans like Romey, McCain, Ryan, Flake, Alexander, Murkowski, Collins... who think it is great when the media and the Democrats praise them. They are Hillary Clinton with religion. George Bush gave us tax cuts for votes just like he gave Democrats Part D. Bush grew government.
We need more Jim Jordan style Republicans. Donald Trump should be the norm not the exception.
Quote from: carolina73 on November 09, 2019, 02:34:30 PM
I am just going to sit back and listen to the apologists and smile.The truth is that we voted in so many Republicans out of desperation to have anyone that called themselves a Republicn, We forgot about who was what a Republican was.
So we got a bunch of Democrats that called themselves Republicans like Romey, McCain, Ryan, Flake, Alexander, Murkowski, Collins... who think it is great when the media and the Democrats praise them. They are Hillary Clinton with religion. George Bush gave us tax cuts for votes just like he gave Democrats Part D. Bush grew government.
We need more Jim Jordan style Republicans. Donald Trump should be the norm not the exception.
Couldn't agree more!
Establishment republicans have no backbone and others have been beaten into submission by the threats of being called racist, homophobic, xenophobic etc.
They aren't just soft on Dem corruption. In most cases, they are complicit. #DeepState They are in on the take. This is why they do nothing to help PDJT. Some have been blackmailed into submission, others by their choice.
Quote from: shhh on November 10, 2019, 05:16:54 PM
They aren't just soft on Dem corruption. In most cases, they are complicit. #DeepState They are in on the take. This is why they do nothing to help PDJT. Some have been blackmailed into submission, others by their choice.
Case in point. TEA and the IRS scandal and how the Pubs ran block for the Dims. We know they were in as deep as the Marxists in wanting to stop us.
Quote from: cynical1 on November 09, 2019, 02:08:34 PM
do you ever get the feeling that is not sufficient?
i mean, this corruption just goes on and on and on..
our system is too unwieldy, it seems, to deal with the problem of corruption (and lying)
I mean Schiff's middle name is probably Pinocchio
We've got to get the money out of the system and increase the number of representatives to make it more representatives of our desires.
We, as Americans, all know and talk about the corruption. We need officials closer to us that we can hold better accountable.
Quote from: joesixpack on November 10, 2019, 05:54:32 PM
We've got to get the money out of the system and increase the number of representatives to make it more representatives of our desires.
We, as Americans, all know and talk about the corruption. We need officials closer to us that we can hold better accountable.
True, we are under represented. Both party's locked the number of Reps for a reason, they didn't want competition.
It's not what the Founders envisioned.
Quote from: joesixpack on November 10, 2019, 05:54:32 PM
We've got to get the money out of the system and increase the number of representatives to make it more representatives of our desires.
We, as Americans, all know and talk about the corruption. We need officials closer to us that we can hold better accountable.
I guessing most of the masses could not tell you who their representative is, they just hit the party button. How about we don't let every idiot vote? Or maybe term limits so the idiot can not vote for the same idiot more than twice? Actually if the lsm would ever tell the truth instead of slanted opinion that would help. But, if we look on the bright side, the internet is getting the word out there and Trump has set the liberals back at least 20 years. I would still like to see congress only meet every other year for 90 days, not much grandstanding can be done in that short of time.
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2019, 05:44:56 PM
Case in point. TEA and the IRS scandal and how the Pubs ran block for the Dims. We know they were in as deep as the Marxists in wanting to stop us.
That was the most devastating part, discovering that the R vs. D doesn't really exist. It's Globalists vs. Patriots. I still feel the disappointment. Their betrayal was hard to swallow. Thank God people are beginning to wake up and do not like what they are seeing. #Trump2020
Quote from: shhh on November 11, 2019, 04:03:46 AM
That was the most devastating part, discovering that the R vs. D doesn't really exist. It's Globalists vs. Patriots. I still feel the disappointment. Their betrayal was hard to swallow. Thank God people are beginning to wake up and do not like what they are seeing. #Trump2020
Yeah, it's sad that the GOP keeps the Dim party alive so they have something to blame for their own unconstitutional BS.
The Omnibus Bill Ryan gave to Fuglosi was the evidence the sleep R voter needed to see. The RINO tried to blame the increase of the deficit on Obozo, when in truth, it was these RINO that gave the Dims everything they asked for and more.
Truth is, if not for the GOP, the dim party would have been gone a decade ago for all the corruption, but then, all eyes would be on the RINO corruption and they couldn't have that spotlight on them.
Quote from: s3779m on November 11, 2019, 02:54:16 AM
I guessing most of the masses could not tell you who their representative is, they just hit the party button. How about we don't let every idiot vote? Or maybe term limits so the idiot can not vote for the same idiot more than twice? Actually if the lsm would ever tell the truth instead of slanted opinion that would help. But, if we look on the bright side, the internet is getting the word out there and Trump has set the liberals back at least 20 years. I would still like to see congress only meet every other year for 90 days, not much grandstanding can be done in that short of time.
Actually, can you explain how Congress meets now?
In Florida the legislative session is only 60 days. I think they do it twice a year.
Congress seems to always be going
Quote from: joesixpack on November 11, 2019, 11:44:20 AM
Actually, can you explain how Congress meets now?
In Florida the legislative session is only 60 days. I think they do it twice a year.
Congress seems to always be going
No doubt it's time for a part time Congress that only meets once a year and telecommutes the rest of the year.
Quote from: joesixpack on November 11, 2019, 11:44:20 AM
Actually, can you explain how Congress meets now?
In Florida the legislative session is only 60 days. I think they do it twice a year.
Congress seems to always be going
Texas meets once every other year for ninety days, since we do not have a state income tax they just don't need to be in session all that long. U.S. Congress has to meet at least once a year, but since there is so much more tax $ to spend they need more than ninety days. Here is a calendar to scroll thru the different months https://www.house.gov/legislative-activity which shows this year, do not think it covers the impeachment farce, so they might be in session more days than what is shown.
Quote from: s3779m on November 11, 2019, 11:57:53 AM
Texas meets once every other year for ninety days, since we do not have a state income tax they just don't need to be in session all that long. U.S. Congress has to meet at least once a year, but since there is so much more tax $ to spend they need more than ninety days. Here is a calendar to scroll thru the different months https://www.house.gov/legislative-activity which shows this year, do not think it covers the impeachment farce, so they might be in session more days than what is shown.
Thanks.
Doesn't seem like all that much, tbh.
I counted about 30 days in the last 3 months
Follow the money
It starts with the RNC Chairman.
Ronna Romney McDaniel (current) Mitt's niece
followed
Reince Priebus was Paul Ryans Boy
followed
Michael Steele who joined Morning Smoe to bash the GOP at MSNBC
These are the people that helped pick and choose who ran in what district.
The GOP Fear the media and the rest of the Democrats. The Dems fight dirty. So does Trump! The GOP are afraid to stand up for what's right. As much as a contradiction as it may seem, "Standing Up" for what's right means getting down in the mud and wrestling those pigs into submission. It's win or lose!
Quote from: joesixpack on November 10, 2019, 05:54:32 PM
We've got to get the money out of the system and increase the number of representatives to make it more representatives of our desires.
We, as Americans, all know and talk about the corruption. We need officials closer to us that we can hold better accountable.
yeh, how do we do that?
Quote from: wally on November 12, 2019, 03:28:31 PM
The GOP Fear the media and the rest of the Democrats. The Dems fight dirty. So does Trump! The GOP are afraid to stand up for what's right. As much as a contradiction as it may seem, "Standing Up" for what's right means getting down in the mud and wrestling those pigs into submission. It's win or lose!
LOL
except i don't think Trump fights dirty... you have to define Dirty for us
If doing just about everything one can to beat the pigs into submission means fighting dirty... the Rs should have at it
Quote from: carolina73 on November 12, 2019, 03:21:03 PM
It starts with the RNC Chairman.
Ronna Romney McDaniel (current) Mitt's niece
ict.
i hope ronna isn't like mitt