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Title: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: Solar on August 12, 2017, 12:06:34 PM
When leftists attack peaceful protesters. But that's not the headlines from leftist media, or how the Dim party is attempting to capitalize on violent leftists and blame white people for defending themselves and claim they're extremist right wing, when in truth, they're nothing more than anti leftist agenda.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I will call out leftist liars where I see them.
Read the bull shit if you want.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/torch-wielding-white-supremacists-march-university-virginia-n792021
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 12, 2017, 12:26:22 PM
McAwful has declared a "state of emergency" quite the over reaction.
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Solar on August 12, 2017, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 12, 2017, 12:26:22 PM
McAwful has declared a "state of emergency" quite the over reaction.
Exactly!!! He and NBC etc. are trying to market this as right wing hate when in truth, it was the left that started the violence.
I expect to see this shit all week in the headlines, anything to distract from the lefts implosion.
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Possum on August 12, 2017, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 12, 2017, 12:31:45 PM
Exactly!!! He and NBC etc. are trying to market this as right wing hate when in truth, it was the left that started the violence.
I expect to see this shit all week in the headlines, anything to distract from the lefts implosion.
I read it on the internet so it must be true, the counter protesters were marching PEACEFULLY.


But in the videos they were fighting???



And if they did not go to fight, why the hell were they there??


But it did say they were marching PEACEFULLY.


I haven't been they confused since I quit drinking.
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Solar on August 12, 2017, 12:43:26 PM
Quote from: s3779m on August 12, 2017, 12:37:25 PM
I read it on the internet so it must be true, the counter protesters were marching PEACEFULLY.


But in the videos they were fighting???



And if they did not go to fight, why the hell were they there??


But it did say they were marching PEACEFULLY.


I haven't been they confused since I quit drinking.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, and why did peaceful protesters show up with helmets? Was this free rides short bus weekend?
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: supsalemgr on August 12, 2017, 12:45:47 PM
I am not a supporter of the groups holding this rally. However, the hypocrisy of the left is overwhelming. Where were these outrages when BLM was out of control?
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Solar on August 12, 2017, 01:46:48 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 12, 2017, 12:45:47 PM
I am not a supporter of the groups holding this rally. However, the hypocrisy of the left is overwhelming. Where were these outrages when BLM was out of control?
Bingo!!!!
Me either, I have no use for either group, unless things were to get worse with the left blaming whites for ever freakin problem under the sun, they created, they might just force a war if they aren't careful, but I have a feeling that's exactly what they want, at which point they will lose miserably.
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: tac on August 12, 2017, 02:54:42 PM
Being white and not a leftist is a crime in today's world.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Solar on August 12, 2017, 05:24:12 PM
Quote from: mrclose on August 12, 2017, 05:20:36 PM
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Please explain. I assume this was the guy that was in the wreck, but?



Adjusted jpg size.
walks
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: walkstall on August 12, 2017, 06:16:25 PM
Hmmm... Color of car unknown.

Is ever one color blind at the DMV in OH.   :lol:
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Cryptic Bert on August 12, 2017, 09:30:16 PM
It was the leftists that went violent, right?
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 02:26:51 AM
All sorts of rumors going around. What we know is a young man from Ohio rammed his car into a group of protestors, apparently ANTIFA loons, also lots of rumors about the Police Helicopter being shot down. Lots of stories about regular citizens being attacked by ANTIFA types. Also ANTIFA shouting "Fk the Police"

It also looks like the first group had some sort of permit to march and demonstrate at the Big Statue of Robert E Lee which is slated to be removed, this is what the rally was about. Looks like the trouble started when the ANTIFA's showed up and started throwing bags of excrement and urine. Looks like most of the arrests are leftist counter demonstrators.

I'm going to stick my neck out and surmise that the driver of the car is some sort of leftist college kid who had a beef with ANTIFA for some reason. If he was a NAZI, Skinhead, KKK type you would have heard about it by now.
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Solar on August 13, 2017, 05:39:33 AM
Quote from: mrclose on August 12, 2017, 09:22:56 PM
Traced back from tag on the dodge that ran down the folks.
Duh! That's my point, what good does this info do if you don't post which side he was on, was he a commie antifa nut, an old man going to the Corner Kitchen, what good does is it to post this without an explanation?
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Solar on August 13, 2017, 05:49:49 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 02:26:51 AM
All sorts of rumors going around. What we know is a young man from Ohio rammed his car into a group of protestors, apparently ANTIFA loons, also lots of rumors about the Police Helicopter being shot down. Lots of stories about regular citizens being attacked by ANTIFA types. Also ANTIFA shouting "Fk the Police"

It also looks like the first group had some sort of permit to march and demonstrate at the Big Statue of Robert E Lee which is slated to be removed, this is what the rally was about. Looks like the trouble started when the ANTIFA's showed up and started throwing bags of excrement and urine. Looks like most of the arrests are leftist counter demonstrators.

I'm going to stick my neck out and surmise that the driver of the car is some sort of leftist college kid who had a beef with ANTIFA for some reason. If he was a NAZI, Skinhead, KKK type you would have heard about it by now.
Yet not one peep from the media, always telling one side of a story is their motive, avoiding the truth sets their narrative that violence always comes when a group that is anti Marxist protests.
All the while ignoring the reality that it was the left that came with violence as their agenda.

This story will run all week long as they blame Trump supporters and just as people finally push back and demand answers and the truth around mid week, the media will start a new narrative/story some place else in the country.
Maybe Trump will expose the truth in a tweet, then a new tweet knocking the left off their game and putting them on the defensive once again.
Title: McAuliffe event backfires
Post by: Hoofer on August 13, 2017, 06:51:32 AM
IMO - who attacked whom is irrelevant, it could be NAZIs going at it with Bernie & Liz, who cares!  Occasionally I have to go there, to that Uber Progressive Liberal cesspool - it reeks of political correctness.   

They're desperately trying to be more politically correct than their neighbor, or some other city they hear about on the MSM  I'm GLAD the state capitol is NOT in Charlottesville, Virginia... the state would be in worse shape than it is!   

Thomas Jefferson's place is just a stone's throw from Charlottesville - they'll be condemning everything about him next.   This region has loads of our nation's history in it's roots - and these history deprived bunch of morons would rather be blissfully ignorant of why, who & what is the foundation of our freedom.  Since *many* originate from the DC area, normal, working Americans cannot afford to buy so much as an 1/4 acre to build a house in the most remote parts of the county... prices are artificially inflated.

When I heard they were coming after the Robert E Lee statue, I muttered, "That is a very, very bad idea..." - although I expected it a lot sooner.  Less than 1 hour from there is Appomattox, where Lee surrendered to Grant - and it's politically NOT liberal, like most of the rural parts of the state.   Yet, I'll bet NONE of those folks would waste a second considering a protest in Charlottesville - I sure didn't, had I known about it ahead of time, still wouldn't.   Someone, with money is probably behind this, both the protest, and the counter protest - for all I know, it could be ONE PERSON behind all warring factions.

Terry McAuliffe, in a show of solidarity with all groups of "nut cases" - immediately jumps in front of the MSM, grabbing as much press as he can to gain face/name recognition for his next political gig.   He doesn't give a rats behind - just that cameras were rolling somewhere, people were tuning in - and by golly, he better get his ugly mug or voice on-the-air!!!  I'm sure when Jeff Sessions was mentioned, Terry was FUMING!   :cursing: "Son-of-a-ich!  What the hell do I gotta do to get a damn camera over here???  They interviewed that far right Sessions, and not one of their own?   The MSM is suppose to be on OUR side!"  :cursing: 

Know this for sure, Virginia is at risk of flipping back to a Republican Governor, yep, Ed-the-insider.   The Democrats put up a friend of Islam, Northam, a bit too far off the Liberal plantation... we hope.  Trump also has his eyes on Virginia, there's trouble brewing for Democrats Senatorial races as well.    Nothing is a sure bet in Virginia, the Progressive Liberals are in trouble & without an answer. 

Expect -more- of these events, casting the PC against non-virginians and the alphabet nutso-groups coming out of the woodwork.  It's an election year for Governor.   Virginia is also a "target rich environment" for the PC revisionist history types.  They know nothing of the character of any of these men who shaped the foundation of this country, or those who fought for/against secession.   This is just the beginning, we could really use a hurricane or major weather event - something to send these snowflakes scrambling for cover.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 09:19:45 AM
It appears that Sessions will open a Federal investigation.....GOOD! Such investigation should be out of the hands of Local Cops (Charlottesville is an undeclared sanctuary city full of leftist assholes) and State police under Gov McAwful who will whitewash any investigation.

Hopefully this is the incident that is needed for a RICO investigation into ANTIFA and BLM who started this violence, apparently the "alt right" had a PERMIT TO DEMONSTRATE granted by the city....the ANTIFA punks DID NOT.

Charlottesville is within Driving distance, we quit going to the restruants there last summer, too many marxists. People in the Real Virginia are real pissed about this, no one wants to see UVA campus turn into Berkley and that's what is happening here. Don;t forget Timmy Boy Kaine's scumbag son is a member of ANTIFA.
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Hoofer on August 13, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 09:19:45 AM
It appears that Sessions will open a Federal investigation.....GOOD! Such investigation should be out of the hands of Local Cops (Charlottesville is an undeclared sanctuary city full of leftist assholes) and State police under Gov McAwful who will whitewash any investigation.

Hopefully this is the incident that is needed for a RICO investigation into ANTIFA and BLM who started this violence, apparently the "alt right" had a PERMIT TO DEMONSTRATE granted by the city....the ANTIFA punks DID NOT.

Charlottesville is within Driving distance, we quit going to the restruants there last summer, too many marxists. People in the Real Virginia are real pissed about this, no one wants to see UVA campus turn into Berkley and that's what is happening here. Don;t forget Timmy Boy Kaine's scumbag son is a member of ANTIFA.

Corner Restaurant is the only place I'll get anything to eat, the chef salad is loaded with meat - a real treat.  Has everything the Arts & Croissant crowd loathes, namely MEAT.  The rest of them, including the fast food chains, the staff, for the most part aren't fit to man a car wash.   These kids are just radical enough, if they found out I support Trump in -any- way, they'd alter the food - God only knows what they'll do to it... and then wear their firing/jail time as a badge of honor.  Yes, they are *that* crazy in Charlottesville.   

It would not come as a surprise to find out a BLM or ANTIFA person shot at that police helicopter - just another thing they'd be awfully proud of.

I hope you're right about Sessions, and the possibility of RICO to bear - just follow the money, and I bet it'll lead to Darth Soros, again.
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 12:28:46 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on August 13, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
Corner Restaurant is the only place I'll get anything to eat, the chef salad is loaded with meat - a real treat.  Has everything the Arts & Croissant crowd loathes, namely MEAT.  The rest of them, including the fast food chains, the staff, for the most part aren't fit to man a car wash.   These kids are just radical enough, if they found out I support Trump in -any- way, they'd alter the food - God only knows what they'll do to it... and then wear their firing/jail time as a badge of honor.  Yes, they are *that* crazy in Charlottesville.   

It would not come as a surprise to find out a BLM or ANTIFA person shot at that police helicopter - just another thing they'd be awfully proud of.

I hope you're right about Sessions, and the possibility of RICO to bear - just follow the money, and I bet it'll lead to Darth Soros, again.


I strongly suspect Kaine is behind this ANTIFA AMBUSH hoping to goad people into fighting back....which they did until cooler heads hustled them out of the area. Don't forget Timmy boys little rat faced son is a big time organizer with these loons.  It will be interesting to see if he was there yesterday.  He's already been arrested out of State for riot related activity.
Title: Re: Homophobic, sexist, anti-white language abundant in Charlottesville ...
Post by: Solar on August 13, 2017, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: mrclose on August 13, 2017, 01:14:16 PM
This is the guy leading the effort to have General Lee's statue removed from the park in Charlottesville

Homophobic, sexist, anti-white language abundant in Charlottesville vice mayor's tweets

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F10homlk.jpg&hash=50733bb127b0e3afed28deb988c2d9fe782b4509)

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2016/11/wes-bellamy-charlottesville-twitter


https://www.amren.com/features/2016/12/wes-bellamy-anti-white-racism-jason-kessler/
So it was an Antifa commie scum bastard. :angry:
Title: Re: Homophobic, sexist, anti-white language abundant in Charlottesville ...
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 03:54:28 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2017, 03:43:12 PM
So it was an Antifa commie scum bastard. :angry:


I told you it was a planned ambush.....Mark my words this will lead back to Kaine.
Title: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Solar on August 13, 2017, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 03:54:28 PM

I told you it was a planned ambush.....Mark my words this will lead back to Kaine.
My bad, it looks like the guy was a white nationalist.
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: walkstall on August 13, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2017, 04:19:11 PM

I'm changing the title to Commies attack peaceful marchers over Confederate statue.

I used their title to expose the truth knowing the left would search to see what we're saying.

You know this will only change the title in the OP, it will not change anything after that.  Unless some one quotes the OP.
Title: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: Solar on August 14, 2017, 05:08:48 AM
Quote from: walkstall on August 13, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
You know this will only change the title in the OP, it will not change anything after that.  Unless some one quotes the OP.
Yeah, it wasn't for our sakes, but those using search engines in hopes of finding out the truth.
And by changing the header for reply..
Title: Re: White Rally turns violent
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 14, 2017, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2017, 04:19:11 PM
My bad, it looks like the guy was a white nationalist.


Time will tell the real story.

I figure it's one of a few things'

a.)The guy is a lone Nut case

b.)Was somehow provoked, had his car surrounded by screaming ANTIFA loons and panicked or lashed out.

c.)Some sort of beef against ANTIFA or someone in that crowd personally
   

Apparently the "White Nationalists" had a LEGAL permit to hold their March or Rally, over the proposed removal of Robert E Lee's statue, That would make them legit, even if they are KKK or Nazi skinheads. Now here is where it gets interesting, when ANTIFA showed up (WITHOUT a Permit) and started their crap that is when the City officials decided to REVOKE the "white's" permit.....the cops actually pushed the "whites" into the mob of ANTIFA's and that is when the fights broke out.

JUst a side note, in all the hundreds of protests between pro and anti's I was involved in during my career in Washington DC,THE POLICE NEVER DO THAT, you erect either a physical barrier like a snow fence or stand police in a line separating the groups. If you cancel the permits, you cancel ALL PERMITS and dispurse the groups AWAY from each other and assign either plainclothes men or marked units to monitor the path of retreat to make sure one side doesn't follow the other to cause trouble.

Another side note it is against FEDERAL LAW to cross state lines to engage in a riot....not to protest. ANyone from out of state of the "Whites" would have been protected under the auspices of a LEGAL PERMIT, while any Leftist coming from out of State (Like Tim Kaine's son in Wisconsin) would be in VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2101

This car ramming occurred after the "Whites" were supposedly dispursed, that's why I say this guy who is from Ohio, lost, not sure of a way out of their might have got "caught" by a bunch of these ANTIFA who were intent on dragging him out of the car and whipping his ass, so he decided to hit the accelerator.

And an "Investigator" would have to look at all angles of this entire incident. That is why I say there is a greater chance for charges against ANFIFA and BLM as a whole rather than "White nationalists" unless of course they try to spin the car ramming incident into a planned conspiracy.....ala Trump and Russia.

There were a lot of cases of assault against non involved parties or bystanders..... apparently some ANTIFA punk hit a female reporter and other local newscasters were pelted with debris by Leftist loons.

That leaves the POlice helicopter crash....supposedly the Pilot flew into a tree....rumors persist he was shot. The leftist crowd later cheered and started the "Fk the Police chant of BLM". upon learning of such


Title: Re: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: Ms.Independence on August 14, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
Good op-ed piece on the matter:

Blaming Trump, But What About Obama?

....The Left is piling on President Donald Trump for what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia. They criticize the president for not doing enough or saying enough while shouting that it is Trump's fault for what happened. Where was that same outrage against Obama?

As black lives matter was killing police officers across the country, where was Obama's outrage? Why didn't the press attack him for failing to call out the black nationalist organization?  As police departments across the country geared up for more Black Lives Matter demonstrations, the White House called the street protests "a good thing."

I also remember the group yelling, "What do we want?" Dead cops, "When do we want them?" Now, and to Obama, that's a good thing? The Lame Stream Media said nothing; as a matter of fact, they seemed to be on the side of BLM.

After the demonstrations turned violent Trump made the following statement: "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides, on many sides."

Was he wrong? Both sides committed violence, as a matter of fact when violence does occur 99% of the time it is the Left that causes it. A White House official later said: "The President was condemning hatred, bigotry, and violence from all sources and all sides. ........

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2017/08/blaming-trump-obama/
Title: Re: Homophobic, sexist, anti-white language abundant in Charlottesville ...
Post by: Hoofer on August 14, 2017, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 13, 2017, 03:54:28 PM

I told you it was a planned ambush.....Mark my words this will lead back to Kaine.

...and I'm quite confident both 'sides' are actually the same side... probably funded by the same individual(s) too!
Title: Re: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: walkstall on August 15, 2017, 05:00:55 AM
Why did Virginia's political leadership order the police and National Guard to stand down?

snip~
So, obviously, this was a fraught moment. But what would have been the outcome had the police and the Virginia National Guard—both on hand in strong numbers—done their duty, enforced properly obtained demonstration permits, and preserved the right of the warring parties to make their respective points without being physically attacked, one by the other and vice versa? It's worth remembering that Charlottesville did everything it could to prevent the demonstrations, issuing permits only after being sued by the ACLU. And when push came to shove—literally—on Saturday, police and National Guardsmen were to be found only on the periphery of the brawling. Indeed, the Virginia ACLU reported that police were refusing to intervene unless specifically ordered to do so.

snip~
Almost at first contact, Charlottesville mayor Michael Signer and Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency and cancelled the demonstrators' permits, whereupon police began funneling the alt-right protestors away from the designated demonstration site—and, some reports have it, toward the counter-protestors. The carnage followed in short order. Whether the breakdown in police protection was purposeful—that is, intended to quash a constitutionally protected demonstration and provoke a violent confrontation—is a question unlikely to be pursued in Virginia's present political environment. As partisan eye-gougers go, Governor McAuliffe, a Democrat, is near the top of the list; Mayor Signer, also a Democrat, seems to be cut from the same cloth.

more @
https://www.city-journal.org/html/avoidable-mayhem-15394.html
Title: Re: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: walkstall on August 15, 2017, 05:09:02 AM
Antifa Website Calls for Violence Against Trump Supporters

snip~
A library of downloadable publications on the website offers long-form articles that call for "insurrectionary mass resistance and refusal" and militant tactics against employers and law enforcement

more @
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/21/its-going-down-antifa-website-calls-violence-against-trump-supporters-capitalists
Title: Re: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: supsalemgr on August 15, 2017, 05:26:07 AM
Quote from: walkstall on August 15, 2017, 05:00:55 AM
Why did Virginia's political leadership order the police and National Guard to stand down?

snip~
So, obviously, this was a fraught moment. But what would have been the outcome had the police and the Virginia National Guard—both on hand in strong numbers—done their duty, enforced properly obtained demonstration permits, and preserved the right of the warring parties to make their respective points without being physically attacked, one by the other and vice versa? It's worth remembering that Charlottesville did everything it could to prevent the demonstrations, issuing permits only after being sued by the ACLU. And when push came to shove—literally—on Saturday, police and National Guardsmen were to be found only on the periphery of the brawling. Indeed, the Virginia ACLU reported that police were refusing to intervene unless specifically ordered to do so.

snip~
Almost at first contact, Charlottesville mayor Michael Signer and Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe declared a state of emergency and cancelled the demonstrators' permits, whereupon police began funneling the alt-right protestors away from the designated demonstration site—and, some reports have it, toward the counter-protestors. The carnage followed in short order. Whether the breakdown in police protection was purposeful—that is, intended to quash a constitutionally protected demonstration and provoke a violent confrontation—is a question unlikely to be pursued in Virginia's present political environment. As partisan eye-gougers go, Governor McAuliffe, a Democrat, is near the top of the list; Mayor Signer, also a Democrat, seems to be cut from the same cloth.

more @
https://www.city-journal.org/html/avoidable-mayhem-15394.html

I remind folks once again. Police departments are political arms of the mayor. Charlottesville is a liberal college town. Need we say more.
Title: Re: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: Hoofer on August 15, 2017, 05:51:15 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 15, 2017, 05:26:07 AM
I remind folks once again. Police departments are political arms of the mayor. Charlottesville is a liberal college town. Need we say more.
Yup!   If you really want to start a fight, stir up a hornets nest.

The permit was issued, knowing something like this could happen, a big fight was likely.
The political 'authorities' realized this would be another way to promote their 'brand', give them media coverage and probably earn a few points locally.
The police knew this would probably 'go south' in a hurry, brought on extra help, but either failed, or were told to let it fail by someone else in authority.

History is being removed from America, first from the text books, then from the public square.
US Grant and Robert E Lee both attended the same military academy.  West Point.
Grant was not Lincoln's first choice, Lincoln asked Lee to be his general, Lee turned him down because he originated from southern states.  The guy did not want to fight against his neighbors & family (duh!)

The statue is of an honorable man, defeated in war, but honorable.   What's the big deal?

Tear down every statue of an American Indian.  Hell, the liberals already went after the Redskins logo, just a handful of people wanted that removed.  They said it insulted *me*, an Indian, yet, I was kinda proud of it.

One statue in Charlottesville insults a bunch of historically ignorant anti-Americans.
Where's a statue of that war-monger, drunk, US Grant?   How many deaths is he responsible for?   Tear down that Grant statue - we'll all feel better as we get a little dumber.
Title: Re: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: walkstall on August 15, 2017, 05:57:53 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on August 15, 2017, 05:51:15 AM
Yup!   If you really want to start a fight, stir up a hornets nest.

The permit was issued, knowing something like this could happen, a big fight was likely.
The political 'authorities' realized this would be another way to promote their 'brand', give them media coverage and probably earn a few points locally.
The police knew this would probably 'go south' in a hurry, brought on extra help, but either failed, or were told to let it fail by someone else in authority.

History is being removed from America, first from the text books, then from the public square.
US Grant and Robert E Lee both attended the same military academy.  West Point.
Grant was not Lincoln's first choice, Lincoln asked Lee to be his general, Lee turned him down because he originated from southern states.  The guy did not want to fight against his neighbors & family (duh!)

The statue is of an honorable man, defeated in war, but honorable.   What's the big deal?

Tear down every statue of an American Indian.  Hell, the liberals already went after the Redskins logo, just a handful of people wanted that removed.  They said it insulted *me*, an Indian, yet, I was kinda proud of it.

One statue in Charlottesville insults a bunch of historically ignorant anti-Americans.
Where's a statue of that war-monger, drunk, US Grant?   How many deaths is he responsible for?   Tear down that Grant statue - we'll all feel better as we get a little dumber.

Hmm... How many things in Washington DC should come down now or be removed for public offices buildings.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: Bronx on August 15, 2017, 07:43:05 AM
All sides are fascist hateful groups trying to kill each other. The only problem I have is that it took place in a public arena.

Put this crap in a stadium and I say how much on pay per view..
Title: Re: Commies attack peaceful protesters over Confederate statue
Post by: Hoofer on August 16, 2017, 05:36:21 AM
Quote from: Bronx on August 15, 2017, 07:43:05 AM
All sides are fascist hateful groups trying to kill each other. The only problem I have is that it took place in a public arena.

Put this crap in a stadium and I say how much on pay per view..
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Soros would buy off the referees and fix the outcome.

I'm astounded how quickly and easily a group of people throws caution to the wind, and can do really, really stupid things.

But, I'm not a bit surprised people will travel great distances, to places where they have no family, friends - virtually unknown, to tear down, break & burn.   They never, ever do that in their own neighborhood.   

Anonymity is like Alcohol, instantly they become heros, and hook up with ugly women.    Meh, call them "Facebook Fighters" - out to make a name for themselves.